Meeting Agenda First Draft Meeting NFPA 405, NFPA 408, and NFPA

Meeting Agenda First Draft Meeting NFPA 405, NFPA 408, and NFPA 422 Technical Committee on Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting

May 8th and May 9th, 2013 Miami, Fl.

I. Welcome and call to order by Chairman Kann

II. Introductions- members and guests

III. Review and accept minutes from the October 2012 meeting

IV. NFPA update – Ken Holland, Staff Liaison

V. Task Group report on NFPA 1003 work

VI. Review of cycle for NFPA 405, 408, 422, and discussion

VII. Public input/first revision development for NFPA 405

VIII. Public input/first revision development for NFPA 408

IX. Public input/first revision development for NFPA 422

X. Other Business- Specific Committee Classifications for ARFF

XI. Next Meeting- SDM for NFPA 405, NFPA 408, and NFPA 422

MEETING MINUTES Aircraft Rescue and Fire Fighting AIR-AAA

23-24 October 2012 Drury Inn & Suites San Antonio, TX

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Members in Attendance Duane Kann (Chair) John McDonald (Secretary) Peter Bordeleau Charles Cinquemani Ralph Colet Ross Davidson Hanh Deniston Fred Goodnight Mark Lawler Stephen Listerman John Maddox Graydon Matheson Robert Mathis John McLoughlin Paul Meyer Kevin Petit Pam Phillips Danny Pierce James Podolske Joseph Scheffey Jason Shively Dirk Steyn Pierre Voisine Abdulrahman Alsaadi Randy Krause Bradford Colton William Major Steven Schwartz Ken Holland (Staff Liaison) Guests in Attendance Grady North Bernard Valois Brian McKinney Denny Heitman Kaare Holm Tim Van Fleet



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23 October The full committee meeting was opened by Chair Duane Kann at 09:04 on 23 October with the introduction of members and guests followed by opening remarks by the Chair. The minutes of the 31 January meeting were approved. Ken Holland, staff liaison, reviewed the ROC process. Ken reviewed the cycles for NFPA 403 & 412, legal considerations, use of the Fire Protection Research Foundation, Doc info Pages, and the new electronic code process. Following a 10 minute break, a presentation concerning response times was given by Danny Pierce. The committee began processing 12 public comments for NFPA 403 . The committee broke for lunch at 12:15. Work resumed at 13:35 with the committee processing the remainder of the 403 public comments. The committee created 2 committee comments for NFPA 403 After a brief review of tomorrow’s activities, The Chair adjourned the meeting at 16:45. 24 October The Chair called the meeting to order at 08:15. Miami was proposed as the location for the next meeting the week of 6 May. Danny Pierce gave his task group report on realigning our documents and at the conclusion of his report and work his task group was dissolved.



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Forming task groups to assist in the revision of NFPA 1003, which is a pro-qual document under the auspices of the Fire Fighter Professional Qualifications project written in job performance requirement (JPR) text, was discussed by the entire committee. Further work on that will be done based on the revision cycle of NFPA 1003. Merging 412 in to 414 and 408 in to 10 was discussed. The committee began processing 2 public comments for NFPA 412 The substantiation for holding logs 2, 3 & 4 for 403 was presented by Jo Scheffey and was accepted by the committee. The committee finished processing public comments on 412 Ken conducted a live demonstrated the new process for submitting public input Danny Pierce presented a Salt Lake City driver training video The Chair appointed task groups to work on the following subjects relevant to NFPA 403 while the document is not in revision in hopes that they would each bring the work back for the next First Draft Meeting, or sooner being submitted as with a public input or possibly a TIA if deemed appropriate. These task groups can include non committee members as well. Generic Foam task group: Keith Bagot Brad Colton Grame Day Bernard Valois Jim Podolske Bob Darwin Dennis Kennedy



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Response Time task group: Mark Lawler- co-chair Danny Pierce- co-chair Grady North Ross Davidson Peter Bordeleau Jim Podolske Bob Mathis John Maddox Graydon Matheson The meeting was adjourned at 11:40 on October 24th, 2012.

Public Input No. 1-NFPA 405-2012 [ Sections 5.4, 5.5 ]

Sections 5.4, 5.55.4 Scenarios. Given a simulated incident or accident scenario, a radio, and a destination on the airport, ARFF personnel shall cautiously perform the following:

(1) Communicate with ground control ATC on appropriate frequency.

(2) Obtain all necessary clearances

(3) Select the shortest and safest response route to arrive at the designated point within specified times required by the authority having jurisdiction

(4) Communicate directly by radio with a flight crew regarding the aircraft emergency situation

5.5 Airport Markings. ARFF personnel, given a diagram of the aircraft movement area, shall identify the following airport markings:

(1) Color of runway markings

(2) Color of taxiway markings

(3) Hold bars (lines) and, where applicable, CAT I, CAT II, CAT III ILS

(4) Displaced thresholds

(5) Aiming point/landing zone bars

(6) Apron ground markings

(7) Other painted surface markings

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

5.4 (1) Explanation: Not ever response is handled exclusively on ground control frequencies. FFs should be familiar with all air band frequencies utilized at their airport.5.4 (3) Explanation: CAT I, II, & III signage has been replaced by ILS. Regardless of the ILS category system of the runway, the hold position distances and safety area concerns remain the same.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Eric JohansennOrganization: DFW Airport Fire ServiceAffilliation: DFW Airport Fire Training & Research CenterSubmittal Date: Fri Nov 02 09:14:33 EDT 2012

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Public Input No. 2-NFPA 405-2012 [ Section No. 11.4 ]

11.4 Operation of Equipment and Devices. ARFF personnel shall be able to demonstrate that they have the knowledge and skills to operate the following systems of assigned emergency vehicles:

(1) Communications equipment

(2) Pump operation

(3) Proportioning system

(4) Turret(s)

(5) Vehicle positioning and maneuvering

(6) Elevated devices (where provided)(7) Skin penetrating tools (where provided)

(8) Various nozzles (types and applications)

(9) Lighting systems (for accident site)

(10) Driver enhanced vision system (DEVS)

(11) Rescue tools (forcible entry, cutting, lifting, etc.)

(12) Ladder evolutions

(13) Ventilation equipment

(14) Complementary agent system

(15) Systems for replenishment of fire-fighting agent(16) Back-up systems for the production and application of fire-fighting agent

(where applicable)

(17) High Reach Extendable Turrets (HRET) where applicable


11.4 Explanation: HRET has been in common usage for many years now yet it still fails to be added to the equipment proficiency list for ARFF personnel.






Public Input No. 3-NFPA 405-2012 [ Section No. 15.3.1 [Excluding

any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to extinguish a 23.2 m2 (250 ft2) aircraft fuel spill fire, given proximity full personal protective equipment (PrPPE PPE ) and at a minimum a 45 kg (100 lb) dry chemical fire extinguisher, so that the agent is applied using the proper technique and the fire is extinguished in 25 seconds.


15 ALL Explanation: Chapter 8 on Protective Clothing and Equipment was already changed to just read “Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)”. This standard addresses interior aircraft firefighting in 15.3.5 lists PrPPE which is NOT designed or recommended for interior firefighting. Whereas, Structural firefighting gear is acceptable for both exterior and interior firefighting operations. By removing PrPPE from this document and replacing it with PPE, this leaves the Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) to determine what type of PPE is appropriate for their agency.









any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to extinguish an aircraft fuel spill fire, given PrPPE full PPE , an assignment, an ARFF vehicle hand line flowing a minimum of 359 L/min (95 gpm) of ARFF extinguishing agent, and a fire sized to the ARFF L/min (gpm) flow rate divided by 0.492 (0.13) [L/min/0.492 = 0.304 m2 (gpm/0.13 = fire square footage)], so that the agent is applied using the proper techniques and the fire is extinguished in 45 seconds.











any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to extinguish an aircraft fuel spill fire, given PrPPE full PPE , an ARFF vehicle turret, and a fire sized to the ARFF flow rate of 0.492 L/min (0.13 gpm) divided by the square meters (feet) of fire area, so that the agent is applied using the proper technique and the fire is extinguished in 45 seconds.











any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to extinguish a three-dimensional aircraft fuel fire, given PrPPE full PPE , an assignment, and ARFF vehicle hand line(s) using primary and secondary agents, so that a dual agent attack is used, the agent is applied using the proper technique, the fire is extinguished, and the fuel source is secured.











any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to attack a simulated fire on the interior of an aircraft while operating as a member of a team, given a team, PrPPE full PPE , an assignment, an ARFF vehicle hand line, an extinguishing agent, and a ladder or other means of accessing the aircraft, so that team integrity ismaintained, the attack line is deployed for advancement, ladders or other means are used, access is gained into the fire area, effective agent applicationpractices are used, the fire is approached, attack techniques facilitatesuppression given the level of the fire, hidden fires are located and controlled, hazards are avoided or managed, and the fire is brought under control.











any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to attack a simulated engine or auxiliary power unit/emergency power unit (APU/EPU) fire on an aircraft while operating as a member of a team, given PrPPE full PPE , an assignment, ARFF vehicle hand line or turret, a correct agent, and agent application procedures, so that agentapplication procedures are followed, the fire is extinguished, and the engine orAPU/EPU is shut down.











any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to attack a simulated wheel assembly fire, as a member of a team, given PrPPE full PPE , a team, an assignment, an ARFFvehicle hand line, and correct agent, so that the fire is extinguished.











any Sub-Sections] ]

ARFF personnel shall be able to ventilate an aircraft or equivalent training mock-up through available doors and hatches while operating as a member of a team, given PrPPE full PPE , an assignment, tools, and mechanicalventilation devices, so that openings are created, all ventilation barriers areremoved, and the heat and other products of combustion are released.










Public Input No. 2-NFPA 408-2012 [ Global Input ]

Delete the entire document and incorporate into NFPA 10.

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The airport environment is more complex than just the aircraft. While at the airport many hazards are present such as aircraft maintenance facilities, terminal buildings, loading walkways, and aircraft fueling, all of these hazards are covered by NFPA 10 portable fire extinguishers. The extinguishers installed on the aircraft are types already addressed, or easily added to, NFPA 10, the addition of the few specific requirements for aircraft extinguishers can easily be incorporated into NFPA 10 to provide a comprehensive overall portable fire extinguisher standard. The incorporation of NFPA 408 into NFPA 10 would bring all the portable fire extinguisher requirements into a single easy to use document. The items covered in NFPA 408 specific to aircraft portable fire extinguishers would be better served in NFPA 10 without losing the important provisions currently within NFPA 408. This would provide a single comprehensive standard on portable fire extinguishers that would better serve the users, installers, maintenance personnel and enforcers.

FAA Advisory Circular 20-42D on Hand Portable Fire Extinguishers for use in Aircraft current does not reference NFPA 408 and references NFPA 10.

1.2.3 of NFPA 408 already sends the user to NFPA 10 Chapter 6 on Installation and Chapter 7 on Inspection, Maintenance and Recharging.Many of the definitions are consistent with NFPA 10.4.1.2 on certification is the same in NFPA 10.Chapter 4 can easily be added to each extinguisher type or added as a new type addressed by NFPA 408 in NFPA 10.Chapter 5 can be incorporated into NFPA 10 Chapter 6.Chapter 6 is already addressed in Chapter 7 of NFPA 10 and the 3 requirements on preflight inspection can be included. 6.2 references NFPA 10.Chapter 7 can be added as an adoptable annex or incorporated into another document.

It is our understanding the technical committee in 2007 conducted an informational ballot to withdraw NFPA 408, which passed.


Submitter Full Name: Bill GallowayOrganization: Southern Regional Fire Code DeSubmittal Date: Tue Aug 28 16:07:19 EDT 2012


I, Bill Galloway, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I herebywarrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.



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Public Input No. 3-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. 2.3.2 ]

2.3.2 UL Publications. Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096ANSI/

UL

8, Water Based Agent Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2007.

ANSI/UL 154, Carbon Dioxide Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2007.

ANSI/UL 299, Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishers , 2007.

ANSI/UL 626, Water Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2007.

ANSI/UL 711, Rating and Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishers , 2004, Revised2007.

UL 1093, Standard for Halogenated Agent Fire Extinguishers, 1995 , Revised 2008 (Withdrawn) .ANSI/ UL 1803, Standard for Factory Follow-up on Third Party CertifiedPortable Fire Extinguishers, 2006, Revised 2008.

ANSI/UL 2129 , Standard for Safety Halocarbon Clean Agent FireExtinguishers , 2007.

2012.


Remove UL/ULC Bi-nationally harmonized standards from this list and add to the Bi-nationally harmonized list in the new 2.3.4, add ANSI approval designation to ANSI/UL 1803, and update reference to UL 1093 as “withdrawn”.


Submitter Full Name: John BenderOrganization: UL LLCSubmittal Date: Fri Dec 28 08:47:39 EST 2012


I, John Bender, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

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2.3.3 ULC Publications. Underwriters' Laboratories of Canada, 7 Underwriters Road, Toronto, Ontario M1R 3B4, Canada.

CAN/ULC-

S503, Standard for Carbon Dioxide Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2007.

CAN/ULC-S504, Standard for Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2007.

CAN/ULC-S507, Standard for Water Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2007.

CAN/ULC-S508, Standard for Rating and Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishers , 2004, Revised 2007.

CAN/ULC- S512, Standard for Halogenated Agent Hand and Wheeled Fire Extinguishers, 2007, Reaffirmed 2007.


Remove UL/ULC Bi-nationally harmonized standards from this list and add to the Bi-nationally harmonized list in the new 2.3.4 and update referenced standards to most recent edition as indicated.









2.3.4 Other Publications. Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 11th edition, Meriam-Webster, Inc., Springfield, MA, 2003.

2.3.4 UL/ ULC Publications.The following publications are bi-nationally harmonized standards for UnderwritersLaboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096 and ULC Standards, 7 Underwriters Road, Toronto, Ontario M1R 3A9, Canada.ANSI/UL 8, CAN/ULC-S554, Standard for Water Based Agent Fire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2011.ANSI/UL 154, CAN/ULC-S503, Standard for Carbon Dioxide FireExtinguishers , 2005, Revised 2010.ANSI/UL 299, CAN/ULC-S504, Standard for Dry Chemical FireExtinguishers , 2002, Revised 2012.ANSI/UL 626, CAN/ULC-S507, Standard for Water Fire Extinguishers ,Revised 2012.ANSI/UL 2129, CAN/ULC-S566, Standard for Safety Halocarbon CleanAgentFire Extinguishers , 2005, Revised 2012.


Add list of UL/ULC Bi-nationally harmonized standards and remove these standards from sections 2.3.2, and 2.3.3.








4.1.2 Hand portable fire extinguishers used to comply with this standard shall be listed and labeled and meet or exceed all the requirements of one or more of the applicable fire test standards and one of the applicable performance standards as follows:

(1) Fire test standards as follows:

(a) For halons, halocarbons, carbon dioxide, dry chemical, water, and film-forming foam, use ANSI/UL 711 and , CAN/ULC-S508.

(b) For halocarbon types for civilian transport category aircraft, useDOT/FAA/AR-01/37.

(2) Performance standards as follows:

(a) For carbon dioxide types, use ANSI/UL 154 and , CAN/ULC-S503.

(b) For dry chemical types, use ANSI/UL 299 and , CAN/ULC-S504.

(c) For water types, use ANSI/UL 626 and , CAN/ULC-S507.

(d) For halon types, use UL 1093 and CAN/ULC-S512.

(e) For film-forming foam types, use ANSI/UL 8, CAN/ULC-S554 .

(f) For halocarbon types, use ANSI/UL 2129, CAN/ULC-S566 .


Add reference to the Bi-nationally harmonized standards as indicated.








Public Input No. 7-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. 4.1.3.2 ]

4.1.3.2 An organization that lists, labels, and marks extinguishers used to comply with the requirements of this standard shall utilize a third-party certification program for hand portable fire extinguishers that meets or exceeds the requirements of ANSI/ UL 1803.










Public Input No. 1-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. 7.1.3 [Excluding any

Sub-Sections] ]

Training shall include the following:

(1) Classroom instruction

(2) Practical use of hand portable fire extinguishers

(3) Extinguishment of a hot fire

(4) Movement in a smoke-filled environment

(5) Wearing of PBE, within a replica of an aircraft cabin environment

(6) Wearing of SCBA (where required), within a replica of an aircraft cargo cabin environment

(7) Health effects of the agent being discharged


The flight crews must be familiar with the health effects of agents used in the suppression of fires in order better facilitate their use in aircraft. Understanding the health effects of suppression agents is consistent with the intent of the OSHA requirements concerning advising employees of chemicals in the workplace. Pilots must pass minimum physical examinations at least every six months to maintain their commercial pilot’s license. Discharge of agents such as carbon dioxide, while not toxic, will displace oxygen and create a hazardous atmosphere. It is imperative that flight crews are educated of hazards regarding suppression agents on board aircraft; fire suppression systems are equally important as other aircraft systems for the safety of the flight crews and passengers.


Submitter Full Name: Doug HohbeinOrganization: Northcentral Fire Code DevelopSubmittal Date: Thu Aug 16 09:43:51 EDT 2012


I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I herebywarrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

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Public Input No. 8-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. A.3.3.8.1 ]

A.3.3.8.1 Class A Fire. European fire class designations are as follows:

(1) Class A — Wood, paper, cloth, and so forth

(2) Class B — Flammable liquids

(3) Class C — Flammable gases

(4) Class D — Metal fires

(5) Class E — Electrical fires

(6) Class F — Cooking appliances

The classification of fire extinguishers consists of one or more capital letters that indicate the classes of fire on which an extinguisher has been found to be effective. The letters (A and B only) are preceded by a rating number that indicates the relative extinguishing effectiveness.

European nations use European Standard EN 3-7 (2004:E) to classify types of fires and establish test methods to assign performance ratings to fire extinguishers. It should be noted that European fire extinguisher numerical ratings and fire configurations differ from those in ANSI/UL 711, CAN/ULC-S508 .

It should be noted that European fire extinguisher ratings are not comparable with U.S. or Canadian ratings. In the United Kingdom, the applicablestandards are British Standard 5306, Part 3, and British Standard 5423.










Public Input No. 9-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. A.3.3.16 ]

A.3.3.16 Rated/Rating. The rating is required to be in accordance with ANSI/UL 711, CAN/ULC-S508 .










Public Input No. 10-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. A.4.3.2.3 ]

A.4.3.2.3 Halocarbon extinguisher toxicity has been demonstrated by Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) modeling and test procedures to be no greater than that of Halon 1211 based on agent quantities discharged to meet the requirements for fire test standards ANSI/UL 711, CAN/ULC-S508 and DOT/FAA/AR-01/37 (see 4.1.2).










Public Input No. 11-NFPA 408-2012 [ Section No. B.1.2.4 ]

B.1.2.4 UL/ULC Publications. The following publications are bi-nationally harmonized standards for Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096 and ULC Standards, 7 Underwriters Road, Toronto, Ontario M1R 3A9, Canada .ANSI/UL 711, CAN/ULC-S508, Standard for Safety Rating and Testing of Fire Extinguishers, 2007 , 2004 revised 2009 .


Update referenced standard to most recent edition and title as indicated.








Public Input No. 1-NFPA 422-2012 [ Chapter 9 ]

Chapter 9 Arson 9.1 Probability. Although the hijacking of airliners using flammable liquids has been attempted, arson has not been a significant problem in operating aircraft. Fires that occur for no apparent reason when the aircraft is unattended or tied down should beinvestigated for the possibility of arson. The local fire investigators who possess the necessary equipment, laboratory facilities, and expertise can perform an in-depth investigation.9.2 Investigation Methods. The motives for arson are generally the same regardless of the object burned. Many of the methods used in motor vehicle fire investigation are appropriate in aircraft investigations. When someone with a knowledge of aircraft structure aids in the investigation, it is usually productive.9.3 Local Agencies. Arson has increased in almost geometric proportions in recent years, resulting in a greater emphasis on the involvement and training of local fire and law enforcement agencies in fire investigation. The trend is toward multijurisdictional arson task forces. Great benefit can be obtained by close coordination between professional air crash investigators and professional fire investigators.9.4 Investigation Results. The fire investigator should strive to determine the probable cause of the fire or explosion. Establishing whether the crash was fire-induced or crash-induced is extremely important. In either case, the investigator should try to determine the point of origin, the material first ignited, and the source of ignition. If possible, recommendations pertinent to crashworthiness and survivability should be made.



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Chapter 9 Fire Investigation

9.1 General. For possible criminal and civil claims, as well as research and other investigative and data collecting reasons beyond any statutory requirements, all fires and/or explosions on board aircraft shall be investigated by the AHJ to determine their origin and cause.

9.2 Investigator Requirements. Persons conducting fire and/or explosion investigations related to aircraft incidents shall meet the requirements of NFPA 1033: Standard for Professional Qualifications for Fire Investigator.

9.1.1 Due to the unique circumstances of aircraft fires and incidents, the investigator should possess additional training in the following subjects: Aircraft construction, aircraft movement operations, aircraft fueling operations, aircraft maintenance and repair operations, common aircraft fire causes, aircraft rescue & firefighting tactics and operations and their effects on aircraft fire scenes

9.1.2 Due to the additional training required, and unique circumstances of aircraft fire incidents, consultation with aviation accident investigators and other aviation experts to assist in the fire investigation is recommended

9.1.3 A task force investigative method incorporating fire investigators, law enforcement, aviation accident investigators, aircraft experts, pilots, or any other experts needed may be beneficial in determining the exact origin and cause of the fire

9.3 Investigation Methodology. Fire investigations for aircraft incidents shall comply with the investigation methodology of NFPA 921 Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations.

9.3.1 Fire investigations involving aircraft shall follow a systematic methodology, such as the Scientific Method

9.3.2 Fire investigations involving aircraft should follow a similar methodology to other motor vehicle and large conveyance fires, while incorporating the unique traits of aircraft construction and operations

9.4 Fire Cause. The fire investigator should strive to determine the probable cause of the fire or explosion. Fire investigators shall attempt to determine the cause of the fire by identifying the material first ignited, the ignition source, and the circumstances bringing these items together (ignition sequence). Establishing whether the crash was fire-induced or crash-induced is extremely important.

9.4.1 Fire Cause. Fire cause shall be determined and classified according to NFPA 921: Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations. Causes of aircraft fire incidents shall be classified as follows.

9.4.1.1 Accidental Fire Cause. Accidental fire involve all those for which the proven cause does not involved an intentional human act to ignite or spread fire into an area where the fire should not be. When the intent of the person's action cannot be determined or proven to an acceptable level of certainty, the correct classification is undetermined. In most cases, this classification will beclear, but some deliberately ignited fires can still be accidental. For example, in a legal setting, a trash fire might be spread by a sudden gust of wind. The spread of fire was accidental even though the initial fire was deliberate.

9.4.1.2 Natural Fire Cause. Natural fire causes involve fires caused without direct human intervention or action, such as fires resulting from lightning,



earthquake, and wind.

9.4.1.3 Incendiary Fire Cause. The incendiary fire is one intentionally ignited under circumstances in which the person knows that the fire should not be ignited. When the intent of the person's action cannot be determined or proven to an acceptable level of certainty, the correct classification isundetermined.

9.4.1.3.1 Although the hijacking of airliners using flammable liquids has been attempted, incendiary fires have not been a significant problem in operating aircraft. Fires that occur for no apparent reason when the aircraft is unattended or tied down should be investigated for a possible incendiary fire cause.

9.4.1.4 Undetermined Fire Cause. Whenever the cause cannot be proven to an acceptable level of certainty, the proper classification is undetermined.

9.4.2 Cause Classification. Only when the level of certainty is considered probable can a fire cause be classified as accidental, incendiary, or natural. This level of certainty corresponds to being more likely true than not. At this level ofcertainty, the likelihood of the hypothesis being true is greater than 50 percent. When the level of certainty does not reach this level, the cause of the fire must be classified as undetermined.

9.5 Reporting. A formal written fire investigation report shall be prepared by the investigator and/or investigative team detailing the investigative findings. If possible, recommendations pertinent to crash worthiness and survivability should be made within this report beyond the basic origin and cause report.


Complete re-write of chapter 9. The terminology "Arson" is an antiquated term that is not reflective of modern fire investigation terminology. In addition, the chapter is not consistent with modern accepted fire investigation methodology, and is not compliant with other NFPA documents, namely NFPA 921: Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations. Therefore, the chapter has been rewritten to incorporate the original intent of the chapter, while remaining consistent with the other NFPA documents, and current fire investigation industry practices.


Submitter Full Name: Christopher WankaOrganization: College Park VFDSubmittal Date: Tue Dec 11 09:28:58 EST 2012


I, Christopher Wanka, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Input (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in anypublication of the NFPA in which this Public Input in this or another similar or derivative form is used. Except to the extent that I may lack authority to make an assignment of content identified above, I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Input and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

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Origin (from sources other than the submitter)

Some information copied from original version of Chapter 9, credit to be given to the Technical Committee. In addition, several definitions, specifically relating to fire cause, were taken from NFPA 921 to ensure that they are identical between the two documents.



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Annex A.3

GUIDELINES TO CLASSIFICATION OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS

These Guidelines are for use by the Standards Council and the staff to assist in com ply ing with 3.2.5 of the Regulations Governing Committee Projects.

The following classifi cations apply to Committee members and represent their prin ci pal interest in the activity of the Committee.

1. M Manufacturer: A representative of a maker or marketer of a prod uct, as sem bly, or system, or portion thereof, that is affected by the standard.

2. U User: A representative of an entity that is subject to the provisions of the standard or that voluntarily uses the standard.

3. I/M Installer/Maintainer: A representative of an entity that is in the business of installing or maintaining a product, assembly, or system affected by the standard.

4. L Labor: A labor representative or employee concerned with safety in the work place.

5. R/T Applied Research/Testing Laboratory: A representative of an independent testing labo-ratory or independent applied research organization that pro mul gates and/or enforces standards.

6. E Enforcing Authority: A representative of an agency or an or ga ni za tion that promulgates and/or enforces standards.

7. I Insurance: A representative of an insurance company, broker, agent, bureau, or inspection agency.

8. C Consumer: A person who is or represents the ultimate purchaser of a product, system, or service affected by the standard, but who is not included in (2).

9. SE Special Expert: A person not representing (1) through (8), and who has special expertise in the scope of the standard or portion thereof.

NOTE 1: “Standard” connotes code, standard, recommended practice, or guide.

NOTE 2: A representative includes an employee.

NOTE 3: While these classifi cations will be used by the Standards Council to achieve a balance for Technical Committees, the Standards Council may determine that new classifi cations of member or unique interests need representation in order to foster the best possible Committee deliberations

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on any project. In this con nec tion, the Standards Council may make such appointments as it deems appropriate in the public interest, such as the classifi cation of “Utilities” in the National Electrical Code Committee.

NOTE 4: Representatives of subsidiaries of any group are generally considered to have the same classifi cation as the parent organization.

Approved Standards Council : November 1981; Revised October 1990Approved Board of Directors: June 1997

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