Marcus Padley - investors.asn.au€¦ · Not going to blow up. But going to take the market on the...
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Marcus PadleyMAppFin. LLB MSAA ADA (ASX)
Stockbroker
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Available from The Educated Investor Bookshop outside
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The Stockmarket Newsletter for Every Investor
Specialises in EquitiesInvestment portfolios
Daily trading IdeasDaily Stockmarket News
An Education
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Ten Investors
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DISCLAIMER
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DISCLAIMERBirth
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DISCLAIMERBirth
Marriage
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DISCLAIMERBirth
MarriageDivorce
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DISCLAIMER
Birth MarriageDivorce
Kids
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DISCLAIMERBirth
MarriageDivorce
KidsInheritance
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DISCLAIMERBirth
MarriageDivorce
KidsInheritance
Career
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DISCLAIMERBirth
MarriageDivorce
KidsInheritance
CareerBusiness
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DISCLAIMERBirth
MarriageDivorce
KidsInheritance
CareerBusiness
Being Stupid - Predators
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The Thirteen Investors
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RATING CRITERIA
Element of GamblingRelies on the Market going up
Employs Timing SkillsUses Trading Skills
Uses Company KnowledgeRequires PatienceTime Consuming
Intellectual – Interesting - Fun
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The Thirteen Investors
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1. The Plodder
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Your Portfolio - $1m
The Banks (40%)Macquarie (sold)Babcock & Brown (bugger) BHP (maybe RIO) WoolworthsWestfield (WRT) TelstraFortescue (sold in 2008)WoodsideQBECSLMyer No QRN (wish you had)
Faith in the BanksFaith in ChinaFocus on FrankingCapital Gains issuesFull Service broker80:20 but really 99:1Sat out the GFCGold maybeTerm DepositsThe Warren Buffett WayIntelligent Investor
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The Plodder Not a lot of risk
Not going to blow upBut going to take the market on the nose
Relies on the market going upVulnerable to a GFC Faith in the Banks
Faith in China OK if you don’t need the money
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2. The Income Investor
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The Income Investor Things you should know:
You make less money in high yielding stocksYou exclude the Super stocks – (PDN)
You can’t buy Resources – best bitThe yield trap
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Yield Trap
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The Income Investor Things you should know:
You make less money in high yielding stocksYou exclude the Super stocks - restricted choices
You can’t buy Resources – best bitThe yield trap
ROE more important - TelstraCapital gains are income too
Change of mindset - Make moneyChange of mindset - Spend capital
The Return on cash can be as good as equities
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3. The Value Investor
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The Value Investor Sounds good
Cerebral exercise is impressive – but effective?Reality - No-one is Warren BuffettDeny ability to time the marketPatience takes a lot of moneyPatience takes a lot of timePatience takes a lot of faith
Not practical – edge of the envelope (School fees)Vulnerable to a GFC
Rubbish in rubbish out – Forecast reliant
Otherwise…Great!
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4. The Daytrader
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The Daytrader
Roots are in free leverageNot investment
ComputersHerd trading
SoulessBoring
StressfulProne to shocks
Very time consumingLike walking onto a battlefield wearing orange
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5. The Trader
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The Trader Not just Technical Analysis
Trading Skills are for everyoneStructure – Controlling the outcome
A plan – Sleep at nightDiscipline - Vigilance
Playing probability - No pride No fearAny time frame
Same intentions as an investorNeed education – a commodity
Time consumingPredators
Long term results the goal
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6. The Sophisticated Investor
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The Sophisticated Investor
Certificate required – saying you are richSpeed of the essence
Free option on financial opportunities
Reality No product disclosure statementsNo-one taking the blame but you
Fine line between a Sophisticated Investor and a Bunny Depends on broker relationship
Are you sophisticated – or do you just qualify as one.
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7. The Top Down Investor
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The Top Down Investor
The money is made out of what the analysts don’t knowThe money is in the Big Drivers - rarely in the detail
Good news follows good sectorsGood managers are in good sectors
Good luck is in good sectorsM&A happens in good sectorsMy client with the Midas touch
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8. The Stock Picker
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The Stock Picker Average returns don’t exist
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ALL ORDS AVERAGE RETURN
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ALL ORDS EXPECTED RETURNS
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ALL ORDS ACTUAL RETURNS
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ASX 100 RETURN
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ASX 100 EXPECTED INDIVIDUAL STOCK RETURNS
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ASX 100 ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL STOCK RETURNS
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ASX 100 ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL STOCK RETURNS
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Difference between picking the top ten stocks and the worst ten stocks in the:
ASX 100-37.5 +83.1 = 120.6%
ASX 200 -51.0% +248.9 = 299.9%
ASX 300 -66.1% +273.9% = 340.0%
ALL ORDS-70.2% +444.3% = 514.5%
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The Stock Picker Average returns don’t exist
Making money is about buying stocks that go upAvoiding stocks that go down
Avoid anyone hiding in averagesValue anyone trying to pick stocks
Value time spent trying to pick stocksFind a stable of good stocks
Apply trading skills
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9. The Zombie
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10. The 10 Stock Gambler
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11. The One Stock Portfolio
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12. The Boat Fund
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13. FOREX and CFDs
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BEST APPROACH
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BEST APPROACH
Looking for high probability outcomes(It is a gamble)
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BEST APPROACH
Looking for high probability outcomesUsing both Fundamental and Technical
(Weak alone – stronger together)
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BEST APPROACH
Looking for high probability outcomesUsing both Fundamental and Technical
(Weak alone – stronger together)
Cannot shut eyes to “The odds”(knowing when to play the market)
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BEST APPROACH
Looking for high probability outcomesUsing both Fundamental and Technical
(Weak alone – stronger together)
Cannot shut eyes to “The odds”(knowing when to play the market)
Identify and trade Individual Stocks(Buying stocks that go up – Avoiding stocks that go down)
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BEST APPROACH
Looking for high probability outcomesUsing both Fundamental and Technical
(Weak alone – stronger together)
Cannot shut eyes to “The odds”(knowing when to play the market)
Identify and trade Individual Stocks(Buying stocks that go up – Avoiding stocks that go down)
Time entry (not the sole focus)
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BEST APPROACH
Looking for high probability outcomesUsing both Fundamental and Technical
(Weak alone – stronger together)
Cannot shut eyes to “The odds”(knowing when to play the market)
Identify and trade Individual Stocks(Buying stocks that go up – Avoiding stocks that go down)
Time entry (not the sole focus)
Trading skills to control outcome
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BEST APPROACH
Don’t nail yourself to one mastValue stock pickers
Learn Technical basicsGet trading skills
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