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Welcome guys!

I've noticed many discussions in this forum about the previous births of the characters of Mahabharat, from various sources including Veda Vyasa's Mahabharat andShrimad Bhagavatham. If the DT of this forum permits, I would like to have this thread as a discussion center for people to discuss these stories and how they mayhave impacted the lives of the characters during Mahabharat. Often, threads that were opened to discuss these stories had lots of arguments in them between peoplewho believed in the previous birth stories and people who did not believe in them, so I feel that it is safer to have one thread to discuss all previous births of the

characters. You can post from any source, but please do mention which source you are posting a particular story from, with citations if possible.

Start discussing! I hope this thread becomes a place where we all can learn about the different incarnations/re­incarnations of the characters in Mahabharat.

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Interesting thread indeed...thnks Janaki for this thread I read somehwere that Krishna Arjun were born million times as Nara­ Narayana...can some1 name few apart these two?

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Nara­NarayanaFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#mw­navigation) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#p­search)For the 16th­century ruler of the Kamata Kingdom, see Nara Narayan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Narayan).

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The twin form of NarNarayan Dev at theSwaminarayan Temple Ahmedabad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaminarayan_Temple_Ahmedabad)Devanagari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari) ­Sanskrit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit) Transliterationnara­nryaaAffiliation Avatar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar) of Vishnu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu)Abode Badrinath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath)

Nara­Narayana (Sanskrit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit_language): ­; nara­nryaa) is a Hindu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism) deity pair. Nara­Narayana is the twin­brother incarnation of the Supreme GodVishnu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu) on earth, working for the preservation of dharma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma) orrighteousness. In the concept of Nara­Narayana, the human soul Nara is the eternal companion of the Divine Narayana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narayana).

The Hindu epic Mahabharata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata) identifies God Krishna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna) with Narayana and Arjuna(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna) ­ the chief hero of the epic ­ with Nara. The legend of Nara­Narayana is also told in the scripture Bhagavata Purana(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavata_Purana). Hindus believe that the pair dwells at Badrinath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath), where their most important temple(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath_Temple) stands.

Members of the Swaminarayan Hinduism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaminarayan_Hinduism) sect believe that the events that took place at Badarikashram, the abode of Nara­Narayana, led to the incarnation of Swaminarayan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaminarayan).

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1 Etymology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Etymology)2 Depiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Depiction)3 Legends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Legends)

3.1 Birth of Urvashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Birth_of_Urvashi)4 Badrinath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Badrinath)5 Mahabharata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Mahabharata)6 Swaminarayan sect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Swaminarayan_sect)7 See also (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#See_also)8 Notes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#Notes)9 References (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#References)10 External links (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara­Narayana#External_links)

Etymology[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=1)]

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nara_narayana.jpg)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nara_narayana.jpg)Narayana on the left and Nara on the right,Deogarh, Uttar Pradesh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deogarh,_Uttar_Pradesh), ca. 5th century AD

The name "Nara­Narayana" can be broken into two Sanskrit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit_language) terms, nara and Narayana. Nara means human, and Narayana(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narayana) refers to the deity of the name.

Monier­Williams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monier­Williams) dictionary says Nara is "the primeval Man or eternal Spirit pervading the universe (always associated with Narayana,"son of the primeval man"; both are considered either as gods or sages and accordingly called , , . In epic poetry, they are the sons of Dharma(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma) by Murti or Ahimsa and emanations of Vishnu, Arjuna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna) being identified with Nara, and Krishna(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna) with Narayana.­ Mahabharata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata), Harivamsa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harivamsa) and Purana(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purana)". Narayana is Vishnu while Nara is Shesha

Depiction[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=2)]Nara­Narayana are depicted jointly or separately in images. When depicted separately, Nara is portrayed with two hands and wearing deer skin while Narayana is shown on theright in the usual form of Vishnu.

Sometimes, both of them are depicted identical to each other. They are depicted four­armed holding a mace, a discus, a conch and a lotus, resembling Vishnu.

Legends[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=3)]

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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Krishna_and_Arjun_on_the_chariot,_Mahabharata,_18th­19th_century,_India.jpg)Krishna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna), Arjuna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna) at Kurukshetra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurukshetra). Krishna gives the discourse ofthe Bhagavad Gita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita). 18­19th century painting. Freer Sackler Gallery.

Arjuna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna) and Krishna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna) are often referred to as Nara­Narayana in the Mahabharata(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata) and are considered part incarnations of Nara and Narayana respectively, according to the Bhagavata Purana(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavata_Purana).

In a previous life, the duo were born as the sages Nara and Narayana, and who performed great penances at the holy spot of Badrinath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath).Nara and Narayana were the Fifth Avatar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar) of Lord Vishnu. The twins were sons of Dharma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma), the sonof Brahma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma) and his wife Murti (Daughter Of Daksha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daksha)) or Ahimsa. They live at Badrika (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath) performing severe austerities and meditation for the welfare of the world. These two inseparable sages took avatars

on earth for the welfare of mankind and to punish the wicked ones. The sages defeated a demon calledSahasrakavacha ("one with a thousand armours"). In MahabharataSahasrakavacha was reincarnated as Karna, born with Kavacha and Kundals (armour and earings)and Krishna and Arjun were reincarnated as Nara and Narayana

Legend has it that once Lord Shiva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva) tried to bring the fame of Nara and Narayana before the entireworld. To do that, he hurled his own potent weapon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon) Paashupathastra at the meditating rishis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishis). The powerof their meditation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation) was so intense that the astra lost its power before them. Lord Shiva stated that this happened since the duo were jnanis(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jnana) of the first order constantly in the state of Nirvikalpa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvikalpa) Samadhi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samadhi).

Birth of Urvashi[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=4)]The Bhagavata Purana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavata_Purana) tells the story of the birth of Urvashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urvashi) from the sages Nara­Narayana.

Once, sages Nara­Narayana were meditating in the holy shrine of Badrinath situated in the Himalayas(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayas). Their penances and austerities alarmed the gods, so Indra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra), the King of Devas(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deva_%28Hinduism%29), sent Kamadeva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamadeva), Vasanta(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasanta_%28Ritu%29) (spring) and apsaras (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsaras) (nymphs) to inspire them with passion and disturb their devotions.The sage Narayana took a flower and placed it on his thigh. Immediately there sprung from it a beautiful nymph whose charms far excelled those of the celestial nymphs, andmade them return to heaven filled with shame and vexation. Narayana sent this nymph to Indra with them, and from her having been produced from the thigh (uru in Sanskrit(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit)) of the sage, she was called Urvashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urvashi).

Badrinath[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=5)]

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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Badrinath_temple.jpg)Badrinath temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath_temple)

According to the Bhagavata purana, "There in Badrikashram (Badrinath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath)) the Personality of Godhead (Vishnu(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vishnu)), in his incarnation as the sages Nara and Narayana, had been undergoing great penance since time immemorial for the welfare of all livingentities." (3.4.22)

In Badrinath Temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath_Temple)'s sanctorium, to the far right side of the stone image of Badri­Vishala (or Badri­Narayana), are the images ofNara and Narayana. Also, the Nara and Narayana peaks tower over Badrinath.

Mahabharata[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=6)]

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NarNarayanDevTraditional.jpg)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NarNarayanDevTraditional.jpg)Narayana (left) with Nara, both of them are depicted identical to each other, holding a mace, a discus, a conch and a lotus.

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According to Bhandarkar, the gods Nara­Narayana must be very famous at the time of the composition of the Mahabharata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabharata), since in theopening stanzas of different books obeisance is made to these two gods. In Vanaparvan (12. 46, 47), Krishna says to Arjuna,"O invincible one, you are Nara and I am HariNarayana, and we, the sages Nara­Narayana, have come to this world at the proper time.." In the same Parva, chapter 30 (verse 1); Shiva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva) saysto Arjuna "In former birth you were Nara and with Narayana as your companion, performed austerities for thousands of years at Badari".

Swaminarayan sect[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nara­Narayana&action=edit&section=7)]In the Swaminarayan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaminarayan) sect, Nara and Narayana, called as Nara­Narayana Deva. They are believed to reside at Badrikashram and to bethe prime controllers of the destiny of all beings, depending on their karma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma). Nara­Narayana Deva are believed to have manifested at NarayanaGhat on the banks of river Sabarmati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabarmati) at Ahmedabad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmedabad). Therefore their images(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murti) were installed by Swaminarayan at the first Swaminarayan temple, Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Ahmedabad(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Swaminarayan_Mandir,_Ahmedabad) (India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India)).

It was events that took place at Badarikashram (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrinath), the abode of Nara Narayana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nara_Narayana), that led to theincarnation of Swaminarayan. It is believed that Narayana took birth as Swaminarayan due to a curse of sage Durvasa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durvasa) which he accepted athis own will. The curse led to Narayana taking the form of an avatar on Earth to destroy evil and establish ekantik­dharma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma), religion based onmorality, knowledge, detachment and devotion. Important Hindu scriptures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_scriptures)suchas the Bhagavad Gita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita) and Bhagavata Purana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavata_Purana) confirm that Narayana descends inhuman form to destroy evil, in the form of Swaminarayan. The Visvaksena Samhita, 11th part of the Brahma Purana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahma_Purana), as well asthe Skanda Purana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skanda_Purana) give a direct reference to Narayana taking birth in the form of Swaminarayan

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Nar & NarayanIn badrinath Dham there are two peaks behind the temple named as Nar & Narayan. In a previous incarnation the duo were supposedly born as the sages Nara and Narayana,andwho performed great penances at the holy spot of Badrinath. Nara and Narayana were the avtar of Lord Vishnu. The twins were sons of Dharma and his wife Murti (DaughterOfDaksha) or Ahimsa..These two sages take avatars on earth for the welfare of mankind .There was an demon named Sahasra Kavacha. He had got boon of having 1000Kavachas(armours).He had a boon that it will take 1000 Years to break each Kavacha, and the one ,who would break a Kavacha, would instantly die.Hence, first Narayanapennaced for 1000 Yrs and Nara fought 1000 Years with ShahasrKavacha and after 1000 Years, Nara was able to break his one Kavacha. As Nara broke the Kavacha,he died.But Narayan due his penance of 1000 Yrs could get back life of Nara and Narayan starts fighting and Nara starts penance for the next 1000 years.Nara and Narayana alternativelypenace and fight for 1000 years and the cycle continued. At last, when they both were able to break 999 Kavachas. ShahasraKavacha hides himself behind the Surya with his lastKavacha due to fear that he would be killed byNara and Narayana then. At this time, there was Pralaya(destruction) on earth due to the change of the Yuga. ThusShashtraKavacha escapes death. In Dwapar Yuga,he was reborn as Karna with Kavacha and Nar and Narayan as Arjun and Krishna respectively.

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Was ShashtraKavacha really King Dambodhbhava? Because in Udyog Parva, Lord Parshurama tells the story of Nar­Narayana and King Dambodhbhava?How is this demon and this King related?

'Hearing these words uttered by the high­souled (http://www.sacred­texts.com/hin/m05/errata.htm#87) Kesava, all the persons who sat in that assembly remained silent, their hairstanding on their ends. And all the kings thought within themselves that there was no man who could dare reply to that speech. And seeing that all the kings sat silent,Jamadagni's son (addressing Duryodhana) then said these words in that assembly of Kurus, 'Listen confidingly to my words illustrated by an example, and seek thy own good ifmy speech recommends itself to thee. There was a king of yore named Dambhodbhava, who was the Head of the earth. It hath been heard by us that his sovereigntyextended(http://www.sacred­texts.com/hin/m05/errata.htm#88) over the whole world. And that mighty car­warrior, rising every morning after the night had passed away, called theBrahmanas and the Kshatriyas unto himself and asked them, saying, 'Be he a Sudra, a Vaisya, a Kshatriya, or a Brahmana, is there any one who is superior or even equal to mein battle?' And uttering these words that king wandered over the earth, intoxicated with pride and thinking of nothing else. And it so happened that certain Brahmanas endued withhigh souls, conversant with the Vedas, and fearing nothing on earth, counselled the monarch, repeatedly boasting of his prowess, to curb his pride. But though forbidden by thoseBrahmanas to boast in that way, the king continued to ask the Brahmanas as before the same question day after day. And some high­souled Brahmanas then, endued withascetic merit and acquainted with the proofs furnished by the Vedas, were inflamed with anger, and addressing that proud and

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boastful king intoxicated with prosperity, told him, 'There are two persons who are foremost of all men and who are always victorious in battle. Thou, O king, wilt by no means beequal to them if thou seekest an encounter with any one of them.' And thus addressed by them, the king asked those Brahmanas, saying, 'Where may those two heroes befound? In what race are they born? What feats have they achieved? And who are they? And the Brahmanas answered him, saying, It had been heard by us that those two personsare ascetics called Nara and Narayana. They have both taken their births in the race of man. Go and fight with them, O king. It is that illustrious pair, Nara and Narayana, who arenow practising the severest of penances in some hidden region of the mountains of Gandhamadana.' Hearing those words of the Brahmanas, that king speedily mustered his large

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army consisting of six kinds of forces, 1 (http://www.sacred­texts.com/hin/m05/m05096.htm#fn_6) and unable to bear their reputation, marched to the spot where thoseunvanquished ascetics were, and arrived at the rugged and frightful mountains of Gandhamadana. He began to search after those Rishis, and at last, came upon them concealedwithin the woods. And beholding those two best of persons emaciated with hunger and thirst, their veins swollen and visible, and themselves much afflicted with cold winds, andthe hot rays of the sun, he approached them, and touching their feet, enquired after their welfare. And the two Rishis received the king hospitably, with fruits and roots, and a seatand water. And they then enquired after the king's business, saying, 'Let it be done.' And thus addressed by them, the king said unto them the same words that he was in the habitof saying unto all. And he said, 'The whole earth has been conquered by the might of my arms. All my foes have been slain. Desiring a battle with you both I have come to thismountain. Offer me this hospitality. I have been cherishing this wish from a long time.' Thus addressed, Nara and Narayana said, 'O best of kings, wrath and covetousness haveno place in this retreat. How can a battle, therefore, be possible here? There are no weapons here, and nothing of unrighteousness and malice. Seek battle elsewhere. There aremany Kshatriyas on earth.'

"Rama continued, 'Although thus addressed, the king still pressed them for giving him battle. The Rishis, however, continually soothed him and overlooked his importunity. KingDambhodbhava, still desirous of battle, repeatedly summoned those Rishis to fight. Nara, then, O Bharata, taking up a handful of grass­blades, said, 'Desirous of battle as thouart, come, O Kshatriya, and fight! Take up all thy arms, and array thy troops. I will curb thy eagerness for battle hereafter!' Dambhodbhava then said, If, O ascetic, thou thinkestthis weapon of thine fit to be used against us, I shall fight with thee though thou mayest use that weapon, for I have come hither desirous of fighting.' Saying this,

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[paragraph continues] Dambhodbhava with all his troops, desirous of slaying that ascetic, covered all sides with a shower of arrows. That ascetic, however, by means of those bladesof grass, baffled all those terrible shafts of the king that were capable of mangling the bodies of hostile warriors. The invincible Rishi then let off towards the king his own terribleweapon made of grass­blades and which was incapable of being counteracted. And highly wonderful was that which happened, for that ascetic, incapable of missing his aim,pierced and cut off, by those grass­blades alone, the eyes and ears and noses of the hostile warriors, aided also by his power of illusion. And beholding the entire welkin whitenedby those grass­blades, the king fell at the feet of the Rishi and said, 'Let me be blessed! Ever inclined to grant protection unto those that sought it, Nara then, O king, said untothat monarch, 'Be obedient to the Brahmanas and be virtuous. Never do so again. O king, O tiger among monarchs, a conqueror of hostile towns, a Kshatriya mindful of the dutiesof his own or, should never, within even his heart, be as thou art. Filled with pride, never insult anybody on any occasion, be inferior or superior to thee. Even such conduct wouldbefit thee. Acquiring wisdom, abandoning covetousness and pride, controlling thy soul, restraining thy passions, practising forgiveness and humility, and becoming amiable, Oking, go, and cherish thy subjects. Without ascertaining the strength and weakness of men, never insult any one under any circumstances. Blessed be thou, and with our leave,go hence, and never again behave in this way. At our command, enquire thou always of the Brahmanas as to what is for thy good! The king then, worshipping the feet of thosetwo illustrious Rishis, returned to his city, and from that time began to practise righteousness. Great indeed, was that feat achieved of old by Nara. Narayana, again, becamesuperior to Nara in consequence of many more qualities. Therefore, O king, besides such weapons as Kakudika, Suka, Naka, Akshisantarjana, Santana, Nartana, Ghora,andAsyamodaka, are placed on the string of that best of bows called Gandiva, go thou unto Dhananjaya, laying aside thy pride Struck with these weapons, men always yield uptheir lives. Indeed, these weapons have other means corresponding with the eight passions, such as lust, wrath, covetousness, vanity, insolence, pride, malice, and selfishness.Struck with them, men are confounded, and move about frantically deprived of their senses. Under their influence, persons always sleep heavily, cut capers, vomit, pass urineand excreta, weep, and laugh incessantly. Indeed, that Arjuna is irresistible in fight, who hath for his friend Narayana­­the Creator and Lord of all the worlds­­fully acquainted withthe course of everything. Who is there in the three worlds, O Bharata, who would venture to vanquish that hero­­the Ape­bannered Jishnu­­who hath no equal in battle? Countlessare the virtues that reside in Partha. Janardana again, is superior to him. Thou art thyself well­acquainted with Dhananjaya, the son of Kunti. They that were Nara and Narayana indays of yore are now Arjuna and Kesava. Know

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then, O great king, who those brave and foremost of persons are. If thou believest in this and dost not mistrust me adopt thou a virtuous resolution and make peace with the sonsof Pandu. If thou regardest this as thy good, viz., that there should be no disunion in thy family, then make peace, O foremost of Bharata's race, and do not set thy heart uponbattle. O thou, that are foremost of Kuru's line, the race to which thou belongest is highly regarded on earth. Let that regard continue to be paid to it. Blessed be thou, think of whatconduces to thy own welfare.'"

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Interesting... didn't know about the Dambhodbhava thingy...I don't think though that Sahasrakavacha story is related to this..

Hm.. reincarnations.. well, Draupadi is a reincarnation of Nalayani.Nalayani was the daughter of King Nala and Damayanti. She was a very virtuous woman who knew many shastras. So no one was learned enough to marry her. TO test her, onceRishi Maudgalya went to her as a handsome prince and asked her to marry him. She immediately asked various questions from different shastras, to which the rishi answeredsatisfactorily. So she agreed to marry him. They married and went to his ashrama, where she served him very well. The Rishi wanted to test her further and so disappeared fromthe ashrama in the early morning. Nalayani searched for him, just then a hunter came there and said, "Your husband has been killed by a tiger."She replied, my husband cannot die so easily. BUt the hunter sid, "Leave him and marry me."She got so angry that she cursed him with leprosy.Later, Maudgalya Rishi returned, covered with all the signs of leprosy and Nalayani realised she had cursed her husband. To repent for this, she offered to carry him on her headwherever he wished to go. WHile going like this, they came across a house of a devadasi called Padma. To even more test Nalayani, mMaudgalya Munivar said, "Nalayani, I wishto visit that devadasi. Inform her that."So Nalayani informed Padma about this, and she too decorated herself and welcomed Maudgalya. He told Nalayani to get out of the house. When Padma came near him, he said,"Don't touch me, or you shall become ashes. That woman you see outside, she is a goddess of virtue. She has served me faithfully for so many years. I cannot betray her. But Ican grant you any boon you want."Padma then said, "O Munivar! I am cursed to have been born in the devadasi caste! No one respects me! Please grant me the boon that: In my next birth, I should be born as aroyal princess, with a royal brother, marry a great warrior, and give an even greater warrior to this world."

Maudgalya smiled and said, "Oh Padma! I bless you! In the next birth, you shall be born in the Yadava dynasty, with Lord Krishna and Lord Balarama as your brothers. Youshall marry the great Arjuna and shall give to the world the formidable Abhimanyu." Thus, this devadasi Padma in her next birth became Subhadra.

Later Maudgalya munivar decided to end his life, and left his body. Nalayani was so shocked that she prayed to Lord SHiva, and in distress, she repeated "Patim Dehi" five times,so lord Shiva said, "IN your next birth, you shall be Draupadi, and shall have five husbands the Pandavas."Nalayani could not bear the shock of both this boon and her husband's death and so entered the fire. From where I believe she was directly transported to the Yagyashaala ofDrupada. Maybe. Maybe not.

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^^^^...Surya...you forgot the most important part of the story.While returning from the devadasi's house late one night, (Nalayani was carrying her husband in a basket on her head­ he could not walk due to his deformed, leprosy afflictedbody) Rishi Mudgalya's foot accidently touched Indra's body who was perched on a tree.

Angered, Indra pronounced a curse on the riashi saying that he will die when daybreak comes.

Nalayani heard the curse calmly. Rishi Maudgalya asked whether she was not worried about his impending death.

Nalayani replied in measured toned "Indra said you will die when daybreak comes...but I say, the daybreak will never come"

Summoning all her powers of satitva, Nalayani declared that the next day will not dawn at all...it will be forever night. Ten nights thus passed. Because of Nalayani's powers of chastity, the sun could not rise at all.

As is usual in such stories, all the gods rushed to her and begged her to allow the sun to rise. INdra too removed his curse.

Rishi Mudgalya pleased with her assumes a beautiful body and the two enjoy several years of conjugal bliss. At length however, the rishi wanted returned to his austerities.

But Nalayani was adamant and kept saying "Patim dehi...patim dehi " five times.

An angered rishi Mudgalaya cursed her that in her next life she will have five husbands. So saying he left her­ and then­ a shocked Nalayani entered fire.

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^^^^...Surya...you forgot the most important part of the story.While returning from the devadasi's house late one night, (Nalayani was carrying her husband in a basket on her head­ he could not walk due to his deformed, leprosy afflictedbody) Rishi Mudgalya's foot accidently touched Indra's body who was perched on a tree.

Angered, Indra pronounced a curse on the riashi saying that he will die when daybreak comes.

Nalayani heard the curse calmly. Rishi Maudgalya asked whether she was not worried about his impending death.

Nalayani replied in measured toned "Indra said you will die when daybreak comes...but I say, the daybreak will never come"

Summoning all her powers of satitva, Nalayani declared that the next day will not dawn at all...it will be forever night. Ten nights thus passed. Because of Nalayani's powers of chastity, the sun could not rise at all.

As is usual in such stories, all the gods rushed to her and begged her to allow the sun to rise. INdra too removed his curse.

Rishi Mudgalya pleased with her assumes a beautiful body and the two enjoy several years of conjugal bliss. At length however, the rishi wanted returned to his austerities.

But Nalayani was adamant and kept saying "Patim dehi...patim dehi " five times.

An angered rishi Mudgalaya cursed her that in her next life she will have five husbands. So saying he left her­ and then­ a shocked Nalayani entered fire.

Oh crumbs. Sorry bout that. And thanks for posting the story.

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