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SAUL MARANEY: It is 9h35 p.m. in Johannesburg, South Africa. 09h35 a.m. in Hawaii

and today is the 12th of August 2007. This is Saul Maraney and I would like to introduce my

special guest, Mabel Katz, author of the fascinating book, The Easiest Way. The Easiest

Way is a practical guide for applying spiritual principles to get past blocks of obtaining what

you want in your life. It is based on Ho`oponopono, an ancient problem solving art from the

Hawaiian culture, which teaches that life in fact can be easy. This is what Dr Joe Vitale,

the co-author of Zero Limits has to say about The Easiest Way. This is the clearest

explanation of Ho`oponopono that I have ever seen. The book is in-depth and at the same

time concise, with examples of how to apply Ho`oponopono in our daily lives. Originally

from Argentina, Mabel is a powerful woman, and in addition to being bilingual, Mabel excels

in two totally opposite careers. In her first career, Mabel has built a reputation of

excellence as an accountant, where she helps her clients with audit and tax problems, and

as a Business Consultant where she is dedicated to helping people create successful

companies. It is her second career that she says really turns her on, as a radio host,

speaker, author and Los Angeles TV host of her own show. On her shows, Mabel shares

her knowledge and wisdom of Hooponopono. Mabels first training with Dr Hew Len was

back in 1997, and since then, she has worked very closely with him. Mabel travels around

the world talking about her book, fascinating large audiences with her knowledge of

Hooponopono. For many years she has been a Foundation of I - Self I-Dentity through

Hooponopono seminar leader, and now, she has been given permission by Dr Len and the

Foundation to share this information independently, especially in the Latin American

countries. Mabels work can be found at www.businessbyyou.com and

www.hooponopono.org and www.mabelkatz.com.

All around the world, especially since the wonderful movie, The Secret came out, many

people are beginning to wake up, and I am especially grateful that Dr Joe Vitale has found

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out about Hooponopono, and he is now letting the whole world know about it. He says that

Hooponopono is the missing secret. So, Mabel, please could you begin by explaining;

What is Hooponopono? What does this Hawaiian word mean? and What does

Hooponopono mean to you?

MABEL KATZ: Yes, well, I thank you for this opportunity Saul. Ho`oponopono has really

changed my life. I did a lot of searching, I tried a lot of different methods and procedures I

would say, but I thought there was something missing. I knew there had to be an easier

and faster way. And I did find it in Ho`oponopono, which is a very ancient art of problem

solving. Basically, Hooponopono means how to correct an error. And errors means all

those memories of opinions and judgements, all those programs we accumulate through

our life. You know when we think we are right, what we think is right and wrong, what we

think is correct or incorrect. And basically, how to let go. I define Ho`oponopono as the

delete key in our computers.

SAUL MARANEY: Yes

MABEL KATZ: And when the programme comes out in the monitor, you can just use

Hooponopono, the delete key. Everything that doesnt work in your life, you can just erase

it. That is the possibility that Ho`oponopono is giving us. And basically Saul, when

something comes out in the monitor, you know, that doesnt work, I mean it is not the

monitor, it is just the programme, so we can talk to the monitor all day long, but the monitor

cannot do anything. We just need to go to the delete key.

SAUL MARANEY: Right, and would you please describe some of the practices that you

did before you discovered Hooponopono ten years ago?

MABEL KATZ: Yes, well I did a lot of things you know. I was trying to do channelling, you

know, because I wanted to hear and I wanted to see, and then I tried a lot of different

meditation techniques. I went to a lot of different kinds of seminars, where they use

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different kinds of methods, but especially, and what it brought me to Ho`oponopono was

Re-birthing. Something that has helped me a lot before, trying Ho`oponopono was Rebirthing.

Re-birthing, because Sandra Ray, one of the founders of Re-birthing, actually she

met Morrnah Simeona. She used to bring a lot of Ho`oponopono to her training, and that is

how I found out about it.

SAUL MARANEY: Whew! And in your book you talk about the fact that happiness only

comes from within. When you found Hooponopono, How did you know that this had been

what you were looking for?

MABEL KATZ: Well because, you know, whenever you do a training, you do something,

you look like you are always missing something and that there is always somebody else

out there that knows more than you. In Hooponopono, it is about you connecting directly

to The Source. The Source that created you. The Source that knows you better than

anybody. The Source that is inside of you, and has all the solutions to all your problems,

and all the answers to all your questions. So is not about depending on anybody else

outside of yourself, it is just to be remembering. Ho`oponopono I always say, reminds

people of something they forgot. The power we have inside of ourselves to change our

lives, without depending on anybody else outside of ourselves.

SAUL MARANEY: Whew! And from reading your book, The Easiest Way and the book

Zero Limit and listening to Dr Len on News for the Soul, a big theme that comes across

is the idea of taking 100% responsibility for whatever appears in our lives. Can you expand

on this and really explain what happens when we do take 100% responsibility?

MABEL KATZ: Yes, yes. Saul, I say 100% responsibility is the easiest way, thats the

name of my book. Because we realise that again, like I said before, that which we created,

we can change it. We always feel belittled, we feel victims, we feel poor us because we

are always thinking that we depend on this, on somebody else to change, somebody else

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to do, and things like that, in order for us to be happy. Here it is about that I created it, I

can change it. I have all the power to change it, and it is all up to me. I do take 100%

responsibility for things to start changing. I change, everything changes. So we are always

at work, always in on the family, always waiting for somebody else to change, or do things

for us to be happy, or for things to get better. And this is actually all the wrong way around,

because when we change, everything changes.

SAUL MARANEY: Whew! And Hooponopono has many tools to help us take good care

of ourselves, and that is something that Dr Len talks a lot about. He said that the most

important thing is to know who we are, and to take good care of ourselves. Can you

describe what this means? Does it mean putting ourselves first?

MABEL KATZ: Exactly! That is something Saul, which had meaning in my life. You

know, especially as mothers, we think. you know; Well now we have kids, and now the

kids come first. We do things to please people and when we learn to put ourselves first, to

take good care of ourselves, like I said before, when we change, everything changes. If we

are okay, then everybody is okay. I learned to take good care of myself, do what works for

me, so if I am okay, then my kids are going to be okay, and when we do things to please

other people, or we do things that dont work for us, we have to know that if it doesnt work

for us, it is not going to work for others. So in the case of motherhood, if I do things

because of my kids, and it doesnt work for me, then its not going to work for my kids.

SAUL MARANEY: Very interesting You make reference to the fact that the intellect

thinks that it knows what is going on and what is best for us, but it is only our heart that

knows. Are you suggesting that if something feels good in our heart, we go for it and we do it, and if it doesnt, we should leave it alone?MABEL KATZ: Exactly, exactly. It comes more from our heart and our feelings than from

our intellect, because our intellect really doesnt know. And one thing that I have learned is,

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that you know; The intellect wasnt created to know things, which we have misunderstood

somehow. The intellect is the part of us that has a choice. It is always making a choice,

you know? You can insult me and I can choose to take the insult, or let it go, or you can give me a compliment and I can still choose to take it or not. I can accept it or not. So we are always choosing. We just have to realise that we always have that minute or that

second in the day