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March 18, 2015ABSS4The History of Oblate Apostles of the Hearts (OATH):A Religious Congregation from San Jose City

Seminaries were the continuation in the church of the apostolic community[footnoteRef:1]. Therefore seminary was the first and foremost of the basic organizing principle which served a learning community. Seminary also was a community of charity and friendship, where fraternal bonds were anchored in genuine relationship with the Lord. Finally, according to Malloy (2006) he also defined the seminary in his study that seminary was a worshipping and praying community that finds its source and submit in the celebration of the Eucharist. Governance in terms of religious responsibility playing important role in a religious community. Inside the seminary, in order to fulfil this seminary, governing bodies of the seminary must work in collaboration with the seminary board/s and other religious ordinary delegate. As what Malloy (2006) also stated in his study that the governing authority establishes the mission and exercise general oversight of the seminary. The seminary should have a precise program also as it must be characterized by its being organized and unified by its being in harmony a correspondence with one aim which justifies the existence of the summary: preparation of future priest (Pasotres dabo vobis: 61). It means that with the programs of seminary, through the span of time in planning, with the effort it organize and unifies. It was supported by the Committee on Priestly Formation that the governing authority does not normally enter directly into the day-to-day administration of the seminary, since such duties were the responsibility of the rector who was assigned accordingly to the process stated above. [1: Pastores dabo vobis: 60 retrieved December 9, 2014 from https://www.academia.edu/UploadPapers#]

Seminarians are to be fully committed to the life of the seminary community and learn how to contribute generously to it and to receive humbly from its resources.Environment was one of the major factors that can affect ones human life. It mirrors the person of who will be he or she in the future which can be the same in the seminary. Seminarys community is one of the major factors that can developed a seminarians resiliency to his vocation. According to Malloy (2006) that the essential work of the seminary takes place in the context of community. It means that community plays a great role to the seminarians because personal growth and character development should progress together harmoniously within a deepening spiritual life. He also added that the experience of seminary community plays a significant role in the role in the personal and spiritual growth of the seminarians.Right Vocation as a Major Requirement in the Seminary, a Life Time TaskA special commitment that an individual must followed as it was his calling. According to Chavez (2013):The vocation is never apersonal life-planwhich the individual carries through with his own strength or nurtures with his own finest dreams; rather, it isa call from Him Who, going before and transcending him, proposes to the one chosen a goal which is beyond him and his own possibilitiesBy calling us God has given us an identity. It means that we only respond to Him in an appropriate manner when we ourselves recognize our identities in His call. It means that identity is not to be equated with what we are already, nor with what we want to be; but rather it coincides with His plan, with what He wants us to become. So therefore, identifying ourselves with what God wants from us is the purpose of all formation.Motivations of an individual were important in terms of decisions. Especially in following vocations as one wrong decision can affects the entire life of an individual. According to Chaves(2013) the starting point is often a mistaken concept of vocation; sometimes it is identified with a personal plan of life motivated by a desire for self-fulfilment. It means that in terms of social sensitivity and even of economic concern and sociological approach or by the simple searching for a quiet life, without serious commitments and without a total unconditional surrender to God and to a mission in the community. This can be the main reasons why there were leaving the seminary without any prior commitments.With these motivations, clearly it was invalid according to Laguerta (2013) as quoted by Chavez(2013)These motives are not valid ones, or at least are not sufficient in order for the gift of consecrated life to be accepted; they are not always expressions of faith, but of wishful thinking or of a social or a search for security. But also everyone must remember that being a person means to have your life in your own hands which means to decide what an individual want to his/her life. As Chavez(2013) stated that Freedom is anopportunitybecause it is the only way to arrive at making values an inner reality and the processes of formation a deeply personal matter and therefore to come to true maturity.Seminarys Community also plays a significant role to the seminarians especially to the personal and spiritual growth of the seminarians. Its also because occurred in the context of community whether as a seminary or a house of formation. In this community also where the spiritual, intellectual and pastoral formation of the future priest were developed. In 2004 , according to Fr. Jerry Laguerta (2012) the ratio of Catholics per priest in the Philippines was 8,500. He also added that figure ballooned to at least 11,500 Catholics per priest in 2010, an indication that the nations Catholic population is growing faster than the number of priests. Therefore if seminaries do not fill up the slack, a vocation crisis may be possible in 15 years.Maybe many were still asking if why some seminarians were leaving the religious community after being stayed inside the seminary for some many years. As what said in Matthew 22:14 many were called, but few were chosen. Therefore not all entering the seminary were not called to become a priest. Many seminarians also entering the seminary with their own personal reasons that can lead to the some of them to leave the seminary. And as these seminarians went out as quoted by Uy (2012). Others might be asking that what will be the life of those who left the seminary. And also how about the vows that they pledge will they still carrying it as they live in the secular world? As what Chavez (2012) said that For the believer life is not a matter of chance or still less the result of human will: every life is willed by God; to every human life God assigns a place, a task in His saving plan. It means that whoever comes into existence has been willed by God: that existence has a meaning at least so far as God is concerned, and such a life achieves its full meaning only from God.Role of the Seminaries and Religious Persons in the CommunityReligion today plays a great role in our social community and can be considered as one of the most influential institution in our country. Despite of being that every Filipinos knew that the there was a separation between the church and the state but yet religion plays a great role in balancing the state. Equal worth, dignity, reason, conscience, and community these traits of common humanity provide the clues to the right and scope of religious liberty (Hertzkey 2012)Religious participation of course was a participation in the church. It was differ from religiosity. Because some were attending or participating religious activities and yet being a religious cannot be seen in their faces nor even with their actions. Religious participation also was an important activity in terms of integrating the social and individual well-being. Because it was associated with the involvement of the family and friends and as what quoted by Stolzenberg et.al (2009) serve as a bridge between various institutional involvements and thus a major source of cohesion. In our country also there was what we called the Catholic University but it was not an unused institution. Rather it was a group of human beings, teachers, scholars, administrators and staffs in pursuit of truths. This can help Catholic faithful to renewed their faith (Villegas2013). In the study also of Larlar (2013) which assessed the status of Catholic Theological Seminaries in the Philippines as education and information centers, identified institutional strengths and weakness and developed a heuristic model for the enablement of Catholic Theological Seminaries. It means they can help also the people or the communities to help them in uniting with Jesus. Wherein it was concluded in that study that the Catholic Theological Seminaries in the Philippines were very satisfactorily, more consistent as formation and according to the setting of the seminary and the strength was found out in the resolve around its emphasis in human, intellectual, spiritual, and pastoral development.

Since this study was focused in the history of the Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts (OATH), according to the superiors of this congregation that supposed to be to interview by the researcher he was recommended to interview their files keeper. The researcher then interviewed their files keeper, Br. Tarcisius J. Uy. He was in this congregation for 14 years. He was currently studying at the University of Sto. Thomas for his Masters Degree in Philosophy.As he narrated the background of the congregation, the OATH can be described to the institution founded by Don Bosco during his time which was the Sallesian in honor for his patron saint St. Francis De Sales that concentrated to the young people. Since Fr. Edgardo Bing Arellano, the founder of the OATH was also came from the Salesian congregation, he used also the system used by Don Bosco as he was experienced what the church called as the call within a call. As quoted to the interview, Brother Tarcisius explained it as Tinawag na siya sa isang congregation pero muli siyang tinatawag para magtayo ng halos katulad ng unang congregation na sinamahan niya[footnoteRef:2]. [2: Quoted to Br. Tarcisius J. Uy. Interviewed January 31, 2015]

The OATH was existed first not as its name today, there were other religious community existed before. Youth Marian Crusade (YMC) also contributed in this congregation wherein Fr. Edgardo Arellano was also a member where he was assigned by Cardinal Sin as his secretary and tasked to create different Apostolic groups. Although those Apostolic groups created were almost the same but there were specific and unique functions. These religious communities were first the Marian Missionaries of the Holy Cross and the Alagad ni Maria(A.M) and here comes the OATH as the last which all of these was inspired under the spirit of St. John Bosco, the special care of the young people.It was in the law of the church (Canon Law) according to Brother Tarcisius that no one can institute any congregation without through the presence and approval of a bishop. This was pushed to Fr. Edgardo Arellano to find a bishop that will be ready to accept the inspiration came from the Holy Spirit. With the patience and continuous prayers of Fr. Edgardo Arellano, his prayers was granted and here came Most Reverent Bishop Leo Drona who also came from Salesian Congregation in fact one of the first Filipino bishop ordained in that congregation. Bishop Drona also became teacher of Father Edgardo when he was still a seminarian thats why they already know each other and chemistry played a great role to their mission. As these two religious person worked together, Father Edgardo named as the Spiritual Father while Bishop Drona named as the Canonical Founder of the OATH congregation. With the continuous working together of Bishop Leo Drona and Fr. Edgardo Arellano, they met Br. Jojo Viola who became their first brother under the OATH congregation which later on became Fr. Jose Viola who helped them in apostolate and preaching the words of God. And as the blessings came in this congregation they were started to known as they were also recruited other members. They were Brother Wealthy who was now a ordained priest as Fr. Philip Gorecho, Brother Robert(Fr. Francis Tiquia), Brother John(Fr. John Santos), Brother Pedro (Fr. Peter Albino and they became the core group that worked together with Father EdgardoArellano. Wherein these five persons were called by Father Edgardo arellano as the five young, brave, courageous, daring and radical youth young people. Father Edgardo also got the assistance of Cardinal Vidal who was now in Cebu who was giving higher help and assistance to them. Although there were other became members in that time but they were not named by the respondent because they were not stayed for a long time and just tried themselves into a religious life.According also to Brother Tarcisius that the OATH was known during its pioneering years as the emerging group in 1991 in Manila. Specifically in the house of a lay person that he was not named who was helping the emerging group in terms of financial needs where they temporarily stayed. Most of the time they did not stayed a long time in their place and one can be considered that they stayed for a long time was the upper floor beside University of Sto. Thomas in the upper part of McDonalds in Lacson Street where the emerging group renting a room. From 1991 in Manila, they were transferred in San Jose City 1993 and were known as the OATH congregation wherein they were not longer known as emerging group because of the increased in their population. Since Bishop Leo Drona was the one who accommodated to Fr. Edgardo Arellano as his partner in instituting this congregation this became the reason why they were transferred in San Jose City, Nueva Ecija. The OATH was not transferred in Barangay Kita-kita immediately, the place where it became known and popular. Because theres no yet an available lot for their buildings thats why they were first stayed in the City Town proper besides the church of Mormons in Del Pilar Street, San Jose City which was called today as haunted house as it was now an abandoned house.In 1997, as their prayers were granted, here came willing groups again of lay people that were willing to donate a lot that can be located in the Sito Campo 3, barangay Kita- kita, San Jose City. With this donation, in 1997 although their buildings were not yet done specially their main building they were still transferred. The first building was the main building that was called by the residence near to them as the Tren sa Gitna na Bukid because it was located in the middle of the farms planted by palay. As Brother Tarcisius also asked one of their ordained priests namely Reverend Father Basil Diosay who also from San Jose City. He studied in Constanscio Padilla National High School in San Jose City and Central Luzon State University in the Science City of Munoz when he was still outside the religious community. He was asked to give the reasons why it was established in San Jose City specifically in Barangay Kita-kita. First reason it was because Bishop Leo Drona was the bishop of the city during that time. According to him that it was advicesable and healthy for a religious community if they were with their bishop protector and the same time their Canonical Father. Secondly, it was because the lot offered was located at Barangay Kita-kita, San Joe City that was patterned to Jesus said that we will go in the place where we are accepted. Lastly, which was the most important was because it was far from the civilization and it was good to start for them in the place where the indigent families can be located. This were gave the opportunities to the families near in this barangay at the same time the residents of the barangay Kita-kita to became closer to God which for them it was a Gods will to establish it in this place which also one of the objectives of this congregation. In which it can be compared in the establishments of the church in the Philippines in1620-1760 as Schumacher (1987, 141) has demonstrated that villages in the Philippines in that time are innumerable and have no person to tell them that there was a God.The other objectives of this congregation were first started in keep love and care for the young people. And later on the founder saw that the social environment of the young people also influenced their spiritual life thats why it was included to their objectives. This was the reason why the OATH created four sections that will apostolate to the youth up to their family. In which during those times they were asking the families to attend novena, and vigil every first Friday and Saturday of the month so that they will became closer to the presence of God. Lastly, since the technologies were started to become modern the spiritual founder of this congregation saw that there were must someone who will guide specially the youth to use the technology in a proper use and ways.With the continuous preaching of the OATH in the different part of the country their population started to blossom. In this regards, here were the requirements of the applicants in their congregation. First, since this congregation was a male institute the applicants must be a straight male which was according to Brother Tarcisius that nakakalungkot nga lang isipin na may mga pwede naman sana na tanggapin ngunit dahil nagkakaroon sila well according nga sa social science is ah am parang balance sa kanila hindi naman yung may tama kundi may kaonting imbalance sa kanila. In short that there were capable but since because of their strictness the applicants must be a straight male. Although there were exemption to this in which the next requirement will enter which was the great desire. Again this will enter to the next requirement which was the applicants must came from a good family and also must a baptized Roman Catholic. There was exemption also in this, because as quoted by Brother Tarcisius that Pero siyempre may exemption yun yan kahit na sabihin natin illegitimate child hindi naman kasalanan ng mga bata yun tapos willing siya binibigyan exemption yun. Next was the health of the applicants they must be physically fit that can respond to the life style of the religious life at the same time to academic standard. Lastly, was the age limit which before they were accepting 16 years old because for them it was easy to mold and prepare the young people for they were still innocent in some other things. But today they were now strict in terms of age limit as their levelled up their standards that was resulted to inreased it into at least 18 years old that can decide with themselves.Br. Tarcisius was very happy as he was interviewed. He was hoping that with historyhe shared it can inspired its readers not necessarily to recruit them them to enter into a religious life but laso to inspired the readers and remembered their purpose in this world. And also to follow the way of ife which was developed by Pope John Paul II... to live according to the will of God.ConclusionAs the data gathered through an interview method therefore Oblate Apostles of the Two Hearts of Jesus and Mary (OATH) can be defined as a clerical missionary society of apostolic life of consecrated souls. Their spiritual source and summit was in living Christs Eucharistic life as victim-priests. With faith in Gods mysterious ways, the members humbly believe that their society is a gift of Divine Providence. It was founded by Fr. Edgardo Bing Arellano in 1991 with the approval of Bishop Leo Drona.The OATH was established for the service of the Church. It offers to the youth, the family, the clergy and the media a lifestyle of atonement, reparation and Eucharistic spirituality. This pastoral thrust was possible because clerics become the priority audience of the apostolate. The obvious reason was that the ordinary minister of the Eucharist was the cleric. Because of being a clerical society of apostolic life they were also directed to the sanctification of the family, but more particularly, on the youth through campus youth ministry.

Through the various apostolate of the society namely, the First Friday/First Saturday communion of reparation vigil, the house-to-house evangelism, Youth Marian Charismatic seminars, vocation search-in seminars, youth leadership seminars, and catechesis, many young people were encouraged to join the society. For prospective candidates, the following were set as criteria to qualify for Postulancy to the OATH: 1. At least 18 years old;2. Physically, mentally and psychologically healthy;3. Has above average IQ for minimum requirement;4. Free from physical defects or handicap;5. Has healthy family background, sacramentally and spiritually. Parentsshould have been validly married in the Catholic Church, and are stillfaithful to their marriage bond; 6. Is free from sacred bond;7. Has the maturity and right disposition to the consecrated life.

Also it was resulted that the population of this congregation as of 2014 were composed of 36 postulants, 27 novices, 28 first and second temporary professed brothers, 40 third and perpetually professed deacons, three (3) deacons and 11 priests. With the total of 145 seminarians under OATH congregation they were distributed accordingly to their mission except for the postulants and novices. The name Oblates Apostles of the Hearts was named to this congregation was because of its objectives which were to make closer the families and the youths to the heart of Jesus and Mary thats why it was named as two hearts. Also, it was also recognized in the early part of the paper especially to the names of the seminarians were different when they entered to the seminary from their original name. It was because when the seminarians became a professed brother they were given what they called Marian Name which were usually came from the name of saints and other religious related names. Furthermore, to leave their worldly personality and have a new personality that will fully dedicated for Jesus and Mary.It was concluded also that this congregation was not started in San Jose City. It was started in Lacson Street besides the University of Santo Thomas in 1991 wherein they were called as emrging group. Then since bishop Drona was the assigned bishop of San Jose City in 1993 they were transferred and stay in a house near the church of Mormons, Del Pilar Street and called as Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts. Then because there were lay groups who offered and willing to donate a lot in Sitio Campo 3, Barangay Kita-kita, San Jose City they were transferred again. Where they started to known in the whole country and developed their congregation. The OATH congregation as they stayed in San Jose City for almost two decades really contributed to the residence of the said city. Not materially but spiritually. Many families were became closer to God and gave advices on how to have a strong family. The youths especially benefited with their young age they were introduce and became to God.

Transcription of Interview to Br. Tarcisius J. UyResearcher: Good evening brother, so mag introduction lang ako .. sirRespondent: Ok..Researcher: Good evening po am unang- una maraming salamat po sa pag papapunlak sa aking interview. Although medyo naging complicated, nagpapasalamat ako dahil inallow nyo pa rin ako na maima.. matanong itong mga hinanda kong katananungan sa iyo. So, ito po simulan na po natin.Respondent: Ok..Researcher: Ito po yung unang tanong, so.. ano po.. ano po am.. maaaring po ba kayo.. maaari ko po ba maitanong yung establishment nung congregation po?.Respondent: Kung.. kung pag uusapan natin yung establishment yung sa historical background lalong lalo na yung mga founding years makikita itong congregation na ito, itong parish association na ito Oblate Apostles of the Two Hearts (OATH) makikita mo yung ugat nya nasa Salesian of Don Bosco tamang tama kasi ngayong araw na ito (January 31) sinecelebrate natin yung feast day ni St John Bosco. Nagtayo siya ng congregation for the young people ang tawag dun ay Salessian mula sa pangalan ni St. Francis De Sales na patron ni John Bosco noong panahon nila. Dahil yung pinakafounder nitong community na ito na si Fr. Edgardo Arellano. Siya ay former member ng Salesian Congregation. So, sabi nga nila sa lenggwahe sa simbahan nakaexperience si Fr. Edgardo Arellano ng tinatawag na call within a call. Tinawag na siya sa isang congregation pero muli siyang tinatawag para magtayo ng halos katulad nung ng unang congregation na sinamahan nya. So actually, hindi kaagad yan naging Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts may mga ibang naitayong community na religious community na nakakatuwa kasi hanggang ngayon ay.. ay nagtatrabaho pa rin para sa simbahan. Makikita nga yong pagkakatulad- tulad pero may mga .. may mga unique at specific na trabahao na specialized sa bawat grupo na mababanggit ko na yung una ang pangalan nila ay Marian Missionaries of the Holy Cross at yung isa pa A.M o mas kilala sa tawag na Alagad ni Maria tapos ito na yung pinakahuli na Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts. Pero lahat ng yan ay parang nag uugat doon sa espiritwalidad ni St. John Bosco na special care of the young people. Kaya kung matatandaan sa history yung.. yung sikat na naging youth group sa Archdiocese ng Manila panahon ni Cardinal Sin pa ito na Youth Marian Crusade o YMC na isa doon si Fr. Edgardo Arellano kung saan naging secretary ni Cardinal Sin kung saan ginagawa yung mga apostolado na yan para sa mga kabataan. And then eventually, nakapagtayo nga siya ng ibatt- ibang religious community. Yun nga.. amm.. later on nalang na tinawag na Marian Missionaries of the Holy Cross yung isa.. yung isa Alagad ni Maria tapos yung Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts. Makikita yung linya ni St. John Bosco yung spirit ni St. John Bosco na nakatutok sa mga kabataan. So, doon natin makikita yung parang background ng pagkakatatag nito. Pare-parehas silang nakatuon o nakatuon sa ..sa special care for the young people kaya.. parang ginawa ni Fr. Edgardo Arellano since ah nakasama sa batas ng simbahan o Canon Law na Law of the church na di makakapagtatag ang sino mang na ganitong congregation na hindi sa pamamagitan ng isang Obispo so humanap ng katulong si Fr. Edgardo Arellano ng isang Obispo na handang sumang ah.. magsumang ayon sa mga adhikain ng banal na espirito santo o mga.. mga inspirasyon na nanggagaling sa banal na espirito santo kailangan niya ng isang Obispo at binig-biniyayaan siya ng isang.. isang obis(Obispo).. na nanggaling din sa grupo ni St. John Bosco isang Salesian din siya in fact one of the first Filipino Salessian bishop ahh na naging teacher niya sa noong siya ay seminarista pa lamang ang pangalan niya ay Bishop Leo Drona.Reseacher: OpoRespondent: So, bali silang dalawa ang .. ang nag.. nagtulungan na maestablish itong religious community na ito. Ah.. ang tawag sa isa is Spiritual Father o Spiritual Founder si Fr. Edgardo Arellano yun kung saan.. kung kasi siya yong talagang naging inspiration. At yung nag approve, yung nag aral sa inspirasyon na yon at nakita namang walang problema ang tawag sa kanya ay Canonical Founder si Most Reverent Bishop Leo Drona naman yun. So, sila yung dalawang nagtulong para.. para makakuha ng approval, actually nasa second o third stage pa lang itong.. establishment na to noong nagsimula palang sila Bishop Leo Drona saka si Father Edgado ang tawag palang sa kanila ay parang emerging group. Tapos noong nakita naman ni Bishop Leo Drona na wala namang problema saka nakita naman niya na mukang makakatulong ito sa simbahan, naging private association sila tapos ngayon naman parang medyo naging dumami na yung members kaya kami ay matatawag ng public o parish association in view of obtaining the diocesan rite which will becoming longer coming from Bishop Leo Drona pero manggagaling na sa Roma. So, yun yung inaabangan naming yung Diocesan Rite. Sa tingin ko yun.. yung basically ahh.. parang background nung.. nung..Researcher: Congregation poRespondent: Congregation po..Researcher: Ito po yung pangalawang tanong brother.. so nabanggit mo kanina po yung kay bishop at kay Fr. Bing(Egardo) .. tama po?Respondent: Opo.. opoResearcher: Meron pa po bang ibang tao na involve bukod po sa kanilang dalawa?Respondent: Ah Oo..yes actually mula dun sa mga nabanggit kong mga unang youth group.. lalo na nga yung YMC noh? Am may siyempre yong ibang mga youth doon nag join sa mga ibatt- ibang grupo ng simbahan na malaking blessing naman para sa mga pioneering members dahil hindi naman kasi iba- iba yung ah.. iba- iba man ang mga gift ng Holy Spirit kung para sa isang simbahan naman di bali ng magkahiwa-hiwalay ng lugar basta iisa pa din yung misyon diba? Of the church and people of God noh?. Am.. pero mula doon sa parang sabihin na natin na pioneering group na pinagmulan ahm .. nitong Oblates Apostles of the Two hearts. May isa actually na.. na sumama kay Father Edgardo na parang unang brother niya bilang Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts isa siya sa mga core group am pangalan niya ngayon na isang pari na din si Fr. Jose Viola.Researcher: OpoRespondent: So siya yoong unang member ng Oblates Apostles and then ah sinimulan nila magturo sa ah.. ah.. parang nagturo.. turo lang sila sa mga high school and then nakakita sila ng mga sumunod pa na naging kasama ni Fr. Jose Viola na Brother Jose palang.. na Brother Jojo nga nila kung tawagin ay nakasama nila nakilala nila si Brother Wealthy noon ngayon Fr. Philip (Gorecho) nakilala din nila si Brother Robert ngayon ay Fr. Francis(Tiquia), si Brother John ngayon ay Fr. John(Santos) at si Brother Pedro na ngayon ay Fr. Peter(Albino). So bali.. bali sila yung naging core group na naging kasama ni Father.. although may mga miyembro pa noon pero hindi na siguro natin gaano mababanggit although.. although yoong iba nakikila pa din naming ngayon pero hindi naman kasi sila kung baga nagtagal kung baga parang nagtry lang sila hindi rin sila gaano nagatagal. So basically yung lima na yun, from that five young, brave, courageous, daring and radical youth young people. Ah yung binanggit kong mga adjectives na yun hindi nanggaling sa akin yoon.. hiniram ko sa salita mismo ni Fr. Edgardo Arellano kapag siya ay nagbabahagi sa amin kung paano sila nagsimula dati very brave, very daring, very radical for the sake of the ah young people and youth at yung prevailing spirituality nila is ah.. balansehin yoong mga kasalanan na nagagawa ng mga kabataan by preaching, teaching so bali yoong lima na yoon sina Father Edgardo, Bishop Drona so kailangan din nila na humingi ng higher help so nakuha din nila yung assistance and ng moral support ni Cardinal Vidal that time na nasa Cebu. (interview was paused in this part)Researcher: Am.. bilang pagpapatuloy ng aking pakikinayam brother ito po yung ikatlong tanong. Am.. yoong nga po from the establishment, people involve so itatanong ko naman po kung bakit dito.. dito sa Brgy. Kita- kita, San Jose City siya am hindi ko po alam paki correct nalang po ako kung dito naitatag o dito siya naestablish po.Respondent: Actually nagsimula sila year 1991 pa yung mga tinatawag na emerging group nagkaroon sila ng approval kay Bishop Leo Drona sa Manila pa lang.Researcher: OpoRespondent: Sa isang bahay ng lay people na tumutulong sa mga financial na pangangailangan ng mga brother. So, mga taong 1991 sa Maynila muna sila tumira kung saang bahay sila tatanggapin although hindi naging permanente, isa siguro sa tumagal sa kanila is yung isang upper floor sa gilid ng UST sa taas ng McDonalds mayroong Mcdonald dati sa gilid ng UST sa Lacson Street . Mayroong isang kwarto doon na inupahan para lang may matirahan para sa mga unang miyembro. Pero eventually, bakit lumipat jan sa San Jose gawa nga ng since Bishop Leo Drona ang nagaccomodate kay Fr. Edgardo Arellano na ano.. na maging handang katuwang niya sa pagtatag.. to founded this congregation and to establish which is a religious community am ahemm at lumipat sila sa San Jose. At di kaagad pumunta diyan sa Kita- kita dahil wala pang lote, wala pang lugar na ready. So, tumira muna sila doon sa gilid hanggang ngayon andon parin tong bahay na ito sa gilid ng Mormons dun sa may sa bayan malapit sa.. dun sa... dunResearcher: Del Pilar StrretRespondent: May Mormons dun na tinatawag ngayon Haunted House kasi wala ng nakatira.. doon unang tumira ang mga brothers, 1993 mga ganun sila lumipat. 1997, nagkaroon ng.. ng ilang mga grupo ng mga lay people na willing magdonate lupa diyan nga bandang Campo 3, Baryo Kita- kita. So, donasyon yan, 1997 hindi man tapos yoong ilang building lalo na yoong main building doon na mahaba yoong first building doon na ika nga ng mga tao dati na mistulang Tren sa Gitna ng Bukid dahil wala talagang kabahay- bahay dun sa paligid noon. Researcher: OpoRespondent: Natatandaan ko pa nga noon so parang grade 6 ako noon nakikita ko na parang may tren nga sa gitna ng bukid .. pero 1997 hindi pa masyado tapos yoon wala pa din yoong simbahan.. yoong shrine.. yoong sa harap tumira na yong mga brothers doon na nakakwentuhan ko nga yoong sa mga unang brother dun na pari na ngayon Fr. Basil Maria Diosay[footnoteRef:3] na taga jan lang din sa San Jose yun nga nag aral din.. din sa Constancio at CLSU 1997 sila tumira. Bakit diyan.. first reason really dahil anjan si Bishop Leo Drona mas advicesable at mas healthy sa isang religious community na kasama nila ang poprotekta sa kanila na Obispo. Bishop Protector which is.. who also at the same time the Canonical Founder so kaya sila diyan sa San Jose (Kita- kita). Secondly, dahil diyan din may nag offer ng lupa, syempre para namang mga taga sunod tayo ni Hesus noh? Pupunta tayo sa lugar na kung saan tayo tanggapin at may magpapatuloy sa atin.. so dahil doon may tumulong. And third which is also an important reason, because diyan sa lugar ng Kita- kita am..malayo na kasi siya sa bayan medyo mas maganda din magsimula ng apostolado sa mga mahihirap na pamilya at mga kabataan na nagkakaroon ng pagkakataon na makapagsimba dahil ang layo na.. ibatt- ibang sekta na ang mga nasisimulan nila. So doon din siguro dinala ng Banal na Espirito Santo para simulan doon sa mga mas nangangailangan ng tulong. [3: Interviewed by Br. Tarcisius J. Uy. Calauan, Laguna. January 30, 2015]

Researcher: Opo.. bukod po dun sa mga nabanggit mo na mga dahilan ng pagkakatatag sa Kita- kita yoon nga po malayo sa bayan, magkaroon ng mga opportunity yoong mga taga dito na mapalapit sa to be specifically mapalapit sa Diyos, meron pa po bang ibang dahilan o objectives ng pagkakatatag?Respondent: ah oo.. mabuti pinaalala mo yan kasi nabanggit ko nga medyo particular sa lugar na yan pero yung general objectives na tinatawag nga sa lenggwahe ng simbahan na the intention of the founder kung ano nga ba ang nakikita ng founder na kahihitnanan ng grupo na ito san nga ba patungo. Am... basically nagsimula nga yan sa keep love and care the young people na parang hindi sapat kung nakaconcentrate lang tayo sa kapakanan ng kabataan . Nakita o nainspire ang founder ng community na to na.. na pati yoong social environment na nakakaimpluwensya sa formation ng mga kabataan ay matututukan na din. So nagkaroon ng apat na sector ang apostoladao ang Oblates Apostle of the Two Hearts priority siyempre ang mga young people kailangan din niya ifollow up yoong sa pamilya kung saan nagkaroon nag extensyon hanggang sa pamilya ng mga kabataan. So, parang house-to-house evangelization and then kahit na.. kahit na maangkop na natin ang pamilya kung ito ay malayo pa din sa simbahan parang bali wala . So parang in general and in particular yung Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts ilapit ang mga pamilya na ito sa parokya. Hindi lang parang parish apostolate nagiging complementary yoong trabaho ng grupo na ito para mailapit ang mga taong ito sa simbahan kaya mayroong first Friday at Saturday Vigil kung niuunite ang mga pamilya at pamilya ng mga kabataan. And lastly dahil nakita natin yoong bumubulusok na pag unlad ng,ating teknolohiya na lalo na sa Mass Media nakita din Ni Father Edgardo kung gaano kalaki yoong am.. kung gaano kadelikado na sa isang kabataan ang environment na masyadong mataas ang teknolohiya. Lalo na sa mass media communication, am hindi pa man gaano kalakas ang FB at twitter pero iba na yoong mga palabas sa telebisyon at mga lumalabas sa mga magazine so medyoginawa din ng mga apostolado na bigyan ding pansin ito para magabayan din kung tama ban na panuorin at magamit ang ganda ng technology sa tamang paraan.Bali yoon yoong apat na dahilan na tinatarget ng misyon na ito kung saan pamilya nila.. sa sa ...sa parish at ang common denominator ay ang pagpapalaganap ng way of life so iniintroduce naming sa mga community, parishes na yoong sa life style sa pamamagitan way of family consecration kung saan ang mga pamilya ay nilalapit namin sa mga sa dalawang puso nina Hesus at Maria kaya nga Oblates Apostle of the Two Hearts pero by way of communion of reparation so dahil talamak na ang mga kasalanang nagagawa ngayon parang minsn nga ang hirap na isipin na ang kabataan ang pag asa ng bayan. Kasi talagang sangkot sila ngayon sa mga hindi inaasahang krimen so dahil parang isa sa mga objectives at very challenging na ako mismo personally naging challenge din sa bokasyon is kung paano babalansehin yung kung paano pagbabayaran yung mga nagagawa ng mga kabataan lalo na sa problema sa kalaswaan masyado ng violent mapalitan ng may pagmamahal sa isat isa at malinis na puso. Researcher: Ok po brother.. bukod po sa sinabi mo na panalangin may ano meron pa po ba?Respondent: Am since.. since sinabi nga ni Pope John Paul II tayo ngayon ay namumuhay sa tinatawag na Kultura ng Kamatay kung saan nakakaranas tayo ng absence of the sense of sin, absence of the sense of God, at at absence of the sense of man. Nawawala na tayo sa resepeto sa Panginoon kaya parang wala na tayong pakialam kung may nagagawa man tayong kasalanan o wala, kung nawawalan na din tayo ng respeto sa kasagraduhan o sacredness of life kaya yun yung parang kultura ng kamatayan o culture of death na binanggit niya sa kanyang evangelum vitae yoong panalangin kailangan may kaabakibat palang pagbabayad o reparation. Kapag sinabi na laman din ng kanyang Sanctificum Dolores na ano mang paghihirap ng isang tao kung ito ay maiuunite sa paghihirap ng Panginoong Hesukristo sa kalbaryo lalong- lalo na kapag nagdidiwang ng santa misa ay nagkakaroon ng salvation. Nagagamit ng Panginoon upang makapagbayad ng kasalanan at ng makaligtas ng mga kaluluwa kaya dumagdag yung reparative style of sacrifice. Hindi man ganoon kagaya sa ginawa ni Kristo pero yoong mga munting sakripisyo matagal mga.. kaonting oras na idadagdag sa pagdadasal, pagluhod, may mga bagay na hindi magagawa, may mga am yoong sa fasting kasi hindi lang sa food yon. But theres also din a kind of fasting na from bad habits, from watching too much television. So tingin ko yon din yung parang special o main ingredient doon sa Oblates Apostles of the Two Hearts. Yong medyo may diin sa buhay na.. na may kaakibat ng sakripisyo. So medyo mahirap intindihin yon para sa mga common people pero once na nakita talaga ng isang kabataan tulad ko nalang kung gaano kalungkot, kung gaano kasakit na mabuhay sa kadiliman ng kasalanan at kung gaano maki..makikita yoong mga kabataan na talagang uhaw sa tunay na pagmamahal, sa tunay na kaligayahan na hindi nila makikita sa mundo. Dito din pala makikita kung magiging handa tayo na yakapin ang krus na pinasan ni Kristo. Parang ito naman yoong time natin na buhatin yong krus alang- alang sa. In fact kahit hindi spiritual reason o hindi gaano kabigat na reason lahat naman talaga ng mga success kailangan dumaan sa hirap, lahat ng mga tagumapay,, tulad ng mga.. past stories kung paano nakaabot sa success so parang ganun lang din kasimple actually para maisalba yoong mga kabataan, para maitama yong mga maling gawi nila at para maipadanas talaga sa kanila yong kaligayahan na hinahanap ng kanilang puso sa pamamagitan ng pag welcome sa pag ibig ng Diyos sa pamamagitan din ng pagyakap sa mga sakripisyo na ito. So, parang prayer coupled to sacrifice parang hopeful and fruitful yong parang na evident hindi lang sa amin pero sa lifestyle. Halimbawa sa buhay ni Padre Pio, St. John Vianney, St. Theresa of Avilla at iba pang maraming mga santo na nakatulong na makapagbago sa makapagbayad para sa mga kaluluwa .. so yon.Researcher: So reviewhin ko lang po brother, na nasabi nyo na from the establishment, tapos kung paano nagsimula, tapos papunta kung sino ang mga nainvolve sa establishment, hanggang sa natrace na din po yong... mga dahilan kung bakit siya na establish dito sa San Jose specifically dito nga po sa barangay Kita- kita am hanggang sa nasabi niyo nga po yoong mga objectives. Sa objectives na nasabi niyo am masasabi natin na pumapasok na doon yoong parang may mga parang may maatract or marecruit kayo. So. Ano po ba yong requirements ng mga applicants ng mga willing pumasok sa inyong congregation. So ano po ba ang mga reuirments o doon muna po tayo sa am ......... sino po ba yoong mga able na pumasokRespondent: Ah ok.. siyempre kapag ang tanong kung sino ba ang pwede pumasok masasagot na din natin yung nabanggit mo na mga na katanungan kanina kung ano ba yung mga requirements. Kasi hindi naman sapat na able lang tapos wala namang requirements. So I think maganda saguting ko na yong dalawang katanungan nay an sa sagot na ito.Researcher: Opo.. OpoRespondent: Am papasok dito sino ba ang pwedeng tanggapin at ano ba ang mga requirements. So, well actually, lahat naman ay welcome pero syempre sa lahat naman ng establishment , sa lahat naman kahit mga corporation yan and a religious community kapag may niraise kang goal and objectives hindi talaga mawawala yung requirements for the members. Kasi kung ang trabaho hindi siya tumatanggap na hindi related sa halimbawa sa mga accountancy hindi pwede yung gusto kahit willing sila. So, una sa lahat because this is a men community, dapat lalaki kasi even in quantum religioness one of the doctrine of the church about religious communities. Hindi naman yun para lang sa amin so actually para sa lahat ng gusting magpari. Dapat talaga na lalaki, nakakalungkot nga lang isipin na may mga pwede naman sana na tanggapin ngunit dahil nagkakaroon sila well according nga sa social science is ah am parang balance sa kanila hindi naman yung may tama kundi may kaonting imbalance sa kanila ah am make up epidemically. Am hindi naman pwede isisi sa kanila na ipinanganak sila na Third Sex o homosexual pero medyo strict yung communityand then ayun nga kailangan lalaki talaga dapat. And then dapat binyag dapat katoliko dapat and as much as possible as what we want is qualified sa amin kapag galing sa good family. Pero syempre may exemption yun yan kahit na sabihin natin illegitimate child hindi naman kasalanan ng mga bata yun tapos willing siya binibigyan exemption yun.. paano nakikita yon, makikita sa desire ng bata kasi bukod sa una dapat na lalaki na isa sa pangunahin dapat, requirements para makita kung willing yung bata , dapat Makita yung strong desire nung bata. Lalo na sa mga religious community ang mga practice ay medyo strikto hindi dahil gusto pahirapan yong mga applicants kundi para sila sa demands ng apostolotate for the future pero kailangan itest kung talagang ok. So dapat lalaki, dapat strong yong desire then dapat nasa edad na pwede ng magdesisyon supposed to be 18 years old yun where in fact na during yung mga pagtanggap sa amin pero back then tinatanggap yung mga 16 years old kasi yung sa panahon ni John Bosco mas tumatanggap sila ng mga mas bata 10 or 11, 12 hindi pa tapos ng high school ay tinatanggap na niya. The reason is mas bata, mas madali pang imold o iprepare sabi nga ni St.John Bosco a hand of the prevention is better than the time of pure na kapag masyado ng corrupt yoong yong bata mahirap ng iform mas madami ng broken na dapat ayusin. Matagal na yong process bago siya maprocess. So tumatanggap kami dati ng 16 years old noh. Tapos isa pa , itong babanggitin ko na to bukod sa desire kasi marami nga gusto talaga health wise is kaya ng katawan. Wala dapat sakit sa baga(hahahaha) kasi hindi kakayanin yong lifestyle lalo na kapag religious community. Kaya minsan kung may gusto nirerefer nalang namin sa sa Diocisan and then syempre kailangan din ng parents permit lalo na dati pwede ang 16 years old kailangan talaga ang parents permit at saka dapat may blessing ng parish priest, dapat may recommendation and then ang pinakamahaliga kasi dito is the spiritual reason dapatbukod dun sa desire ay matinding spiritual reason dapat yung. Hindi lang dapat gusto, bakit mo gusto, sino gusto mo tulungan, anu ba nakikita mong magagawa mo kapag pinasok mo yong congregation na to. Kaya kung tatanggapin bago dito ay nagkakaroon yan ng search-in seminars ano ba intetntion ng founder na ito ano ba academic requirements ng congregation na to bago sila piliin na para sila ay para dito.

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