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EMBO editors read the entire manuscript (yes!)
Decision on a balance of multiple factors:
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• Mechanistic, functional, biological insights
• Utility of methods, dataset, resource
• Completeness and conclusiveness of the analysis
In case of doubt...R Aebersold
GM Church
L Hood
E Liu
P Bork
Julie Ahringer
Charles Auffray
Ewan Birney
Tom Blundell
Thomas S. Deisboeck
Jan Ellenberg
Michael Elowitz
Alan Fersht
Stan Fields
Mark Gerstein
Frank Holstege
Sung Hou Kim
Hiroaki Kitano
Doron Lancet
Andrew J. Link
Stephen Oliver
Jeremy Nicholson
Bernhard Palsson
Rama Ranganathan
Uwe Sauer
Luis Serrano
Lucy Shapiro
Pamela Silver
Michael Snyder
Janet Thornton
Masaru Tomita
Marc Vidal
Hans V. Westerhoff
Lothar Willmitzer
John Yates
Senior Editors Advisory Board
EMBO Editors:
Thomas Lemberger
Maria Polychronidou
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1. Summary
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• What are the key conclusions: findings and concepts
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2. General remarks
• Are you convinced of the key conclusions?
• Place the work in its context.
• What is the nature of the advance (conceptual, technical, clinical)?
• How important is the advance as compared to previous knowledge?
• What audience will be interested in this?
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Background of this study:
Extracellular inputs are often encoded into dynamics of transcriptional factors, which are subsequently decoded into target
expression. Hao and O'Shea (2012) showed that the yeast general stress regulator Msn2 exhibits distinct shuttling dynamics
between cytoplasm and nucleus in response to different stresses. A technique based on analog-sensitive kinase (also used in current
manuscript) was developed to control the shuttling of Msn2. This technique allowed them to reveal the dependence of gene
expression on promoter kinetics under oscillatory Msn2 at the population level. In their later study, Hao and O'Shea (2013) continued
to show that the dynamics of Msn2 are largely dependent on, and can be modulated by, the phosphorylation states of the PKA target
residues on the NLS/NES of Msn2.
Short summary of this manuscript:
In this manuscript, Hansen and O'Shea took a step further and used the aforementioned technique to study the dependence of gene
expression on the dynamics of artificially generated Msn2 localization bursts in single cells. Using time-lapse microscopy and
mathematical modeling, they identified two types of promoters: high amplitude threshold slow activation (HS) and low amplitude
threshold fast activation (LF). A model with three promoter states was used to fit the experimental data and was able to capture the
experimental responses. Furthermore, they showed that the noise level in promoter expression depends on the timescale of
promoter activation as well as the transcription factor dynamics (i.e., repeated pulses vs. single pulse). Notably, slow promoter
activation is largely due to slow nucleosome remodeling. These results paint a picture of how dynamic Msn2 inputs are decoded at
the promoter level and how promoter characteristics influence the fidelity of signal decoding.
Overall comment:
These studies were carefully designed and nicely carried out. The data are solid and the analysis is comprehensive. The results
address several issues in the field of dynamic signal processing in cells and bring up interesting proposals regarding the role of
promoter kinetics and cellular noise in the decoding of dynamic signals. I enjoy reading this manuscript. I would recommend the
acceptance of this manuscript if the authors can address the following concerns.
Major comments:
1. The potential problems of the technique using PKA analog sensitive mutant....
2. The Msn2-mediated indirect regulation of target promoters....
3. The three-state promoter description...
4. The role of transcript half-life in the decoding....
5. The physiological relevance of synthetic Msn2 dynamics....
6. The chromatin remodeling timescale....
Good
Reviewer #2:
Note that I have provided a Word file that includes some figures I have generated to better show the problem with this manuscript.
The manuscript by Maria Lluch-Senar and colleagues is a bold effort to determine what are the essential genetic elements in a near
minimal bacterium. Over the last 6 years or so, this team has published a dazzling series of papers characterizing the atypical bacterium,
Mycoplasma pneumoniae, from a systems biology perspective. Because this organism, at only 860 kb and 800 genes, is already close to
being a minimal bacterial cell, determination of what genes and regions of genes are essential and what is non-essential is of great
interest. Since the days of the Max Delbruck's phage school in the 1930's it has been the dream of biologists to use a reductionist
approach to understanding how life works by identifying and determining how each essential element in a living cell functions. The aim of
this project is to identify, and to some extent characterize all the essential genetic material in a cell by marrying proteomics, and
transcriptomics data with the knowledge of what genetic material can be disrupted using transposon bombardment. The strategy
employed by Lluch-Senar and colleagues is much like the approach taken by the team of Stanford microbiologist Lucy Shapiro to identify
the essential genes in Caulobacter crescentus in 2011 that was published in Molecular Systems Biology. The Stanford team combined
hyper-saturated transposon mutagenesis coupled with high-throughput sequencing. The protein coding genes, non-coding RNAs and
other un-translated genetic elements such as origins of replication and transcriptional control regions that were not hit by transposons
were defined as essential.
In an absolute sense, transposon bombardment only defines the non-essential regions of the genome. Even then, it is possible if the
experiment is not set up properly to incorrectly label an essential gene as non-essential. For instance, a gene encoding a protein for
which there are many copies in a cell, but for which only one copy is essential could be disrupted by a transposon and still result in cells
that might survive 10 or more cell divisions. Thus, after the transposon reaction it is necessary to culture cells long enough that the entire
pool of proteins initially present in transposon disrupted cell is exhausted. Similarly, as reported in both the Stanford Caulobacter paper
and the Barcelona Mycoplasma manuscript being reviewed, disruption of some genes results in cells that have impaired growth
phenotypes, called Fitness genes. To determine the essential regions of a genome one must make several assumptions about the
transposon bombardment process:
• Transposon insertions are completely random
• The number of independent transposon mutants being analyzed is great enough that there is a high probability that all non-essential
targets are hit.
The Stanford Caulobacter project used a pool of ~800 thousand viable Tn5 transposon insertion mutants. Tn5 transposition is almost
random as was demonstrated by Fred Blattner and colleagues (Systematic Mutagenesis of the Escherichia col Genome. 2004. Journal of
Bacteriology 186(15):4921.
In the EMBL/CRG Mycoplasma pneumoniae paper under review the story is quite different. First, Tn4001 insertions are not random, as
was shown in other studies using Tn4001 in Mycoplasma genitalium and Mycoplasma pneumoniae (Glass et al. 2006, and Hutchison et
al 1999). Some genes were hit many more times than others. In Glass et al. and also in French et al.'s study of essentiality of
Mycoplasma pulmonis, several thousand individual mutants were isolated and the locations of each transposon insertion were
determined. In many cases, for example with M. genitalium gene MG_414, several hundred of the ~4000 Tn4001 mutants analyzed had
the transposon insertion at the same base of that gene. Second, and more important, not enough mutants were analyzed to make
accurate predictions about what genes, especially small genes, are essential. The EMBL/CRG Mycoplasma pneumoniae paper stated
that they obtained a pre-existing pool of 2976 Tn4001 mutants first reported on in 2006 and later in 2007 by Halbedel and Stulke. That
said, consider the likelihood a non-essential genetic element will be disrupted.
A 2007 paper by Halbedel and Stulke, which was offered by the EMBL/CRG Mycoplasma pneumoniae paper authors cited to explain the
probability of identifying specific fractions of the total set of non-essential genes and other genetic elements offers this formula: The
probability that a mutation in a gene of interest comprised of g base pairs will be found in a given collection of transposon mutants. Here n
is the number of mutants, l is the non-essential genome size, and P is the probability.
n = log (1-P) / log(1-(g/l))
It is assumed that given that all genes in M. genitalium have orthologous genes in M. pneumoniae, and that the genes present in M.
pneumoniae but absent in M. genitalium are non-essential. Thus the 236 kb of DNA in M. pneumoniae (816 kb) not in M. genitalium (580
kb) are non-essential. Additionally, Glass et al. disrupted another 100 M. genitalium genes (comprising 112 kb) and others have found
another 8 kb of non-essential M. genitalium genes. So the non-essential M. pneumoniae genome is at least 356 kb. Assuming the
minimum small RNA coding gene one is searching for is 100 bp, then one has only a 57% chance of disrupting that gene. If the minimum
target is a 100 amino acid protein, then there is a 92% chance it will be disrupted. If the minimum target were a 100 base pair gene or
noncoding RNA then the probability is on a bit over 50% it would be disrupted and categorized as not essential.
About that same point, the authors state: "With this number of mutants, the probability of finding a desired mutant in the library is
99.999%." This is almost the same sentence in the 2006 paper by Halbedel et al. where they calculated the probability of finding a mutant
among their pool of 2976 mutants that had a disrupted hprK gene. The Halbedel sentence was: "With this number of mutants, a hprK
mutant is included in the library with a probability of 99.999%." The hprK ORF is 936 nucleotides in length. By my calculation, using
current reports of the non-essential genome in M. genitalium which indicates the non-essential genome is 356 Kb, the probability today
Reviewer #2:
The manuscript by Maria Lluch-Senar and colleagues is a bold
effort to determine what are the essential genetic elements in a
near minimal bacterium. [...] The protein coding genes, non-
coding RNAs and other un-translated genetic elements such as
origins of replication and transcriptional control regions that were
not hit by transposons were defined as essential.
[…]
The probability that a mutation in a gene of interest comprised of
g base pairs will be found in a given collection of transposon
mutants. Here n is the number of mutants, l is the non-essential
genome size, and P is the probability.
n = log (1-P) / log(1-(g/l))
[…]
Quite simply, the conclusions reached by the EMBL/CRG group
about essential small ORFs and non-coding RNAs are not
supported given they only analyzed a few less than 3000
mutants. They probably should have analyzed at least 100
thousand clones, and probably several times that amount.
Importantly, they should do mutagenesis with either Tn5 or
Tn4001, plate 100s of thousands of mutants. […]. I would think
this could all be done in a month is MiSeq instead of HiSeq
sequencing was used.
This paper is altogether dispensable. I
doubt that the paper would even qualify for
specialist journals.
The short study uses an E. coli host to screen metagenomic DNA in the
pursuit of DNA encoding functions that afford tolerance to a number of
otherwise inhibitory compounds. Such compounds are claimed to be
bottlenecks for the metabolic engineering of E. coli for biomass conversion.
Authors do find some DNA clones of environmental origin that help E. coli to
survive better in the presence of such compounds. Analysis of the
corresponding sequences reveals that they include metabolic genes, recA and
membrane proteins. Such a relatively simple exercise is presented in an
overdone synthetic biology jargon.
1. The use of E. coli as a host for capturing biological functions in
metagenomic DNA libraries has been in the literature for quite a long time.
2. The work is claimed to be oriented towards improving the performance of E.
coli for biomass conversion. But there there is not any follow up. Authors show
no connections between the environmental genes identified and any
improvement of E. coli.
3. Inhibitory compounds derived from lignocellulose are likely to appear
simultaneously in a given process. There is no evidence shown that the
combination of the tolerance functions identified in the metagenome results in
a better endurance when facing a mixture of inhibitors.
4. The genes found in the selection look like quite "housekeeping". This
suggests that tolerance to the toxic compounds under study results from minor
changes in existing functions rather than appearance of dedicated resistance
mechanisms.
This is a fascinating paper in which the XX lab presents a novel platform for
discovering effective enzymes for biomass conversion. This work is based on
extracting metagenomic DNA from arbitrary environmental sources. This work
is novel, interesting and timely, given growing interest in synthetic biology and
bioenergy. I have only a couple suggestions for enhancing the presentation of
the paper and its potential impact:
1. The text is quite brief and terse. I recommend that the authors expand the
text somewhat, particularly explaining how the basis of the platform and how it
can be implemented.
2. The authors should discuss other applications for the platform. Could it be
used for example to discover more effective antimicrobial peptides? How
about uncovering enzymes for other applications such as the biosynthesis of
polymers and other materials?
This is an exciting paper which presents a
novel, significant platform. I recommend it
for publication
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“…[it] settles a controversy in the field
which has been going on for more than ten
years. In summary, this is a landmark paper.
I cannot support publication in your journal
strongly enough!”
“As written, the paper is focused on the
methods, which is fine given that's where it
makes its most substantial contribution. But
the writing is quite technical and could
benefit from more explanation of the high-
level logic of their approach.”
“After reading through this nicely-executed
technical work, one is left with an
impression that after all we really have not
gained much new mechanistic insights.
…in addition to the XXX data that should be
generated under their current framework…”
…Each reviewer has numerous suggestions
about how to do this. It will likely be
impossible to incorporate them all while
retaining a coherent narrative. […]
Reviewer 3 also calls for an additional
experiment - including XXX stains in the
current dataset. To incorporate this into
their current analytical framework, the
authors would have to find parameters and
reagents to allow simultaneous imaging of 5
genes (not just the 4 presented
here). Moreover, they would then have to
reacquire all images using the 5-stain
protocol.
While I agree that it would be useful to
have XXX data included, I also believe that
this is beyond the scope of this paper.
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