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IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT ,
ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
A Guide t o Twenty-two Audio Tape In terv iews i n the Alaska S ta te L i b r a r y
Col lec ted by the U.S. Bureau o f Land Management, I d i ta rod Nat ional H i s t o r i c T r a i 1 P ro j ec t O f f i c e i n 1980-19811.
Alaska Department o f Education D i v i s i o n o f Sta te L i b r a r i e s and Museums
Pouch G Juneau, A1 aska 9981 1
November 1981
CONTENTS
Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
List o f Audio Tape Interviews . . . . . . . . . . . . 2
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Interview Data Logs 3
. . . . . . . . Sample of Oral History Use Agreements 61
INTRODUCTION
Twenty-two o r i g i n a l tape-recorded in te rv iews were co l l ec ted by the
I d i ta rod Nat ional H i s t o r i c a l T r a i l P ro j ec t O f f i ce , U.S. Bureau o f Land
Management, Anchorage, dur ing 1980-1981. These master casset te audio
tapes, use agreements and i n t e r v i ew data logs have been placed i n the
Alaska H is to rs i ca l L i b r a r y f o r preservat ion and scho la r l y use.
A copy s e t o f t h e audio tapes w i t h use agreements can be borrowed on
i n t e r l i b r a r y loan. L i b r a r i e s o r museums may ob ta i n copies o f the audio
tapes i n which they are i n t e res ted by p rov id ing blank tapes f o r the
dup l i ca t ion .
The tapes i n t h i s c o l l e c t i o n have been indexed i n the statewide Oral
H i s t o r y Index compiled by B i l l Schneider a t the Elmer E. Rasmuson
L ib ra ry , Un i ve r s i t y o f Alaska, Fairbanks.
LIST OF AUDIO TAPE INTERVIEWS IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT
ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
Phonotape-C
\~zq 49-80-1 Gularte, Tony (F l a t )
Gularte, Tony ( Id i t a rod) Note: inaudible tape due t o mechani cal f a i 1 ure.
Morris, Jack C. (McGrath)
49-80-3a Morris, Jack L. (continued)
49-80-4 Redington, Joe and V i (Kni k)
49-80-5 Poling, John (Nome)
49-80-6 Ma1 oney , Mami e (Nome)
49-80-7 Curran, J r . , Pete ( ~ o m e )
49-80-7a Curran, J r . , Pete (continued)
49-80-8 Abloogal ook, Mark (Nome)
49-80-9 Hahn, Bonnie (Nome)
1 49-80-10 Peterson, Andy (Nome)
49-80-7 1 Baldwin, Bob (Nome)
49-80-1 2 * Larson, Pete (Nome)
49-80-1 3 No1 1 ner , Edgar (Galena)
49-80-1 4 Evans, Char1 i e (Gal ena)
49-80-1 5 * McCarty, B i l l y (Ruby)
49-80-1 6 Bahnke, S r . , John (Nome)
49-80-1 7 Carl o , Char1 i e (Ruby)
49-80-1 8 Kall and, Edgar (Kal t ag )
49-80-1 8a Kal 1 and, Edgar (conti nued)
49-81 -1 * Aulaye, John ( ~ n a l a k l e e t )
I * Lacking use agreement; r e s t r i c t i o n on copying tape f o r d i s t r i b u t i o n .
GULARTE, TONY
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT OFFICER BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHORAGE D I S T R I C T OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHORAGE , ALASKA 9 95 0 7
General ~~~i~~ of Interview: Early history of Iditarod & Flat mining camps.
Roadhouses. First airplanes into Flat.
Date of Interview: July 12, 1980
Location of Interview: Flat, Alaska Length:
Interviewer: Tom Beck, Steve Peterson, BLM
Personal Data Comment s :
~arrator's Name: Tony Gularte Due to mechanical problems, sound
Address: 1403 W 34th PI . Anchorage quality gradually deteriorates.
Tape becomes inaudible at approx-
Telephone: 279- 1846 imately 13:OO .
Name and address of relative or friend:
1908 Birthdate:
Birthplace:
Interview Data:
Tape No. : 80-01
Time :
Side: A
Subjects:
INTRODUCTION
IDITAROD TRAIL ROADHOUSES: IDITAROD-DEEMAN AREA . .
Shermiers R.H. ~ritz's R.H. (Jerry Wynn-proprietor).
, GULARTE, TONY
IDITARCQ TRAIL PRQTECT CWAL HISTCRY PR-
IDITARm TRAIL PRCUECT CFFICE BUREAU CF LAND MANA- AKXORAGE DISTRICT aFFICE ANCHC2RAG;E, AIASKA 9507
General Topics of Interview: Walking Tour of Iditard, Alaska
Ibte of Interview: July 12, 1980
Iacation o£ Interview: Length :
Intbewer: Steve Feterson, Tan Beck, BIM
Fersonal Data: CcrrPnents:
Narrator's Name: Tony Gularte
Address: 1403 W 34th P1, Anchorwe
Telephone: 279-1846
T a p i s larqely inaudible due t o
meal failure,
DO NOT CIRCUIATE
and address of relative or friend:
Birthplace :
inter vie^ Data: .
Time:
Side: A
Subjects:
Introduction
niscussion of streets, shops and warehouses.
End of audible portion of interview
Time:
Notes
Phonotape-C 49-
2 of 4 Narra tor : Jack Morris 80-03 P:
Subjects :
y e a r s . Work Experiences.
Voyage on "w.M. upper" from S e a t t l e t o Bethel , Ak. 1930.
Work as deckhand. L i skeyv i l l e : B i l l Liskey 's camp near
Stony River. Work a s a "flunky ." Frequency of t r i p s - navigat ion. Dances.
ARRIVAL I N McGRATH P r e p a r a t i o n of "Tana'' f o r win te r s t o r -
"LITTLE CHARLIE SMITH" (WHITE DOG SMITH)
Dogtem, mail runs. Frank Lange: Pa r tne r sh ip of Smith &
Lange : summer f r e i g h t business on " ~ n n a b e l le" and poo lha l l .
Boat "Langley" b u i l t .
DESCRIPTION OF OLD McGRATH. Kruhm' s roadhouse . Smith 's poo lha l l . Langley house. Gamewarden Halson's.
Northern Commercial Co. (NCC) s t o r e . Pe te Nichael 's
roadhouse. "Sp i t t en J im ' ' Ebnaw's house.
CHARLIE KONIG family . Dog team and mail runs. Rep lace-
ment of dog teams by a i r p l a n e s . La te r yea rs . La te r yea rs
of Frank Lange and "White Dog" Smith.
ROADHOUSE I N OLD McGRATH. B i l l Kruhm's. Dave Clough's.
Clough's mink ranch i n Takotna, and his move t o o ld McGrath
i n 1930. Supplying wood f o r roadhouse. Clough bu i lds .
Russ S t a l l c u d , T ib ' s Sawmill, Cap McLain, Warren Alfred.
Time :
Phonotape C- 49-
4 P: ,-. of 4 Narra tor : Jack Morris 80-03
Subjects :
Thanksgiving t r i p t o Takotna - f e s t i v i t i e s .
Route from McGrath t o Takotna. Tr ip t o Ophir: weather,
c l o t h i n g , s l e d and equipment. Char l ie Konig . DAILY OPERATION OF ROADHOUSE. A r r i v a l of steamboat and
s o c i a l a c t i v i t i e s . Dances. Roadhouse employees, hours of
opera t ion .
CREW ON THE "TANA Number of crew, d u t i e s , "flunky."
Notes
See tape 80-03A f o r con t inua t ion of in te rv iew.
Phonotape C- 49-
2 of Narrator: Jack L . blorris 80-03 A P = Time: Subjects:
Kruhmls mink pens. Christmas time a t Kruhm's roadhouse.
New NCC bui ld ing b u i l t (approx) 1930. P o ~ u l a t i o n of old
McGrath : (approx . ) 150, population of "newli~.lc~rath.
TAKOTNA AND KUSKOKIVIM RIVERS JOIN AT OLD blCGRATH
(Discussion with map)
MISCELLANEOUS. Jack ' s claim near Apple M t . River
changes d i r ec t i on . Candle Creek t r a i l . S tores i n old
LlcGrath. Jack Morris work experiences. Howard Langley: -- - - - - - - - -- --
watchman on steamboats. "TANA" replaced by "Langely . I t
TAPE 80-03 A , SIDE B
BLANK
Notes
Phonotape C- 49-
2 of 3 P: .-. - Narrator: J o e & V i Redington 80-04
T i m e :
RECONNAISSANCE (-1972)
Subjects:
- -- - - -
MT. CLIMBERS ROADHOUSE P i c t u r e s
KNIK HISTORIC SITE: LOG STRUCTURE H i s t o r y . (Built c. 1906.)
U s e .
KNIK HISTORIC SITE: HALL. HISTORY
Res to ra t ion . H i s t o r y of use. U s e as a R.H. run by Lee &
Grace Ellexson. B u i l t c. 1914.
WALKING TOUR OF KNIK HALL: FIRST FLOOR
WALKING TOUR KNIK HALL : SECOND FLOOR
P i c t u r e s of early Knik. Knik s i t e p lan . -- - --
IDITAROD TRAIL: KNIK AREA
0.G. BERNINGS STORE: KNIK S a l e to Teelands .
OLD SITES AND CABINS: KNIK/SUSITNA AREA " ~ h u r c h i l l . "
Burns cabin.
HALFWAY 6 M'. CLLMBERS ROADHOUSES
Notes
- - - -- --
Locat ion
TAPE 80-04, SIDE "B"
ROADHOUSES ALONG THE IDITAROD TRAIL: KNIK-RAINY PASS --
Locat ion of R.H.'s and t r a i l segments. Lee El lexson
MALONEY, MAMIE Phonotape C- 49-80-06
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECI.' ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT OFFICER BUREAU OF LAND blANAGE?IENT ANCHORAGE DISTRICT OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AENUE ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 9 95 0 7
General Topics of Interview: Safety ~ o a d h o u s e and f e r r y . Char l i e Dalquis t .
Date of In terview: August 3, 1980
Locat ion of Interview: Mamie Maloney's apt. Nome, AK Length:
In tenr iewer : Tom Beck, BLM Historian
Personal Data Comments :
N a r r a t o r ' s Name: Mamie Maloney
Telephone:
Name and address of r e l a t i v e o r f r i end :
Bir thdate : 1923
Bir thp lace : Nome, Alaska
In terview Data:
Tape No. : 80-06 Side: A
Time :
00:08
Subjects:
INTRODUCTION
MAMIE HALONN: BIOGRAPHICAL Born i n Nome, 1923. Moved
t o Safe ty whi le s t i l l a baby wi th her f a t h e r , Charlie Dalquist.
Time:
10:oo
Notes
Phonotape C-
3 49-
P: of 5 N a r r a t o r : M a m i e Naloney 80-06
S u b j e c t s :
n O O D OF NOME AND SAFETY (1940 ' s ) Large f l o o d about 1947,
acco rd ing t o M a m i e . Mamie and C h a r l i e D a l q u i s t s p e n t t h r e e
days l i v i n g o n second f l o o r of R.H. Flood washed away
L i n c o l n H o t e l i n Nome.
SAFETY ROADHOUSE: HISTORY /DESCRIPTION. The second b u i l d i n g
has s u r v i v e d many f l o o d s , t h e l as t i n 1974.
O r i g i n a l b u i l d i n g burned down b e f o r e 1913. Second was b u i l t
between 1910 and 1913. Second R.H. s l e e p i n g accommodations:
one l a r g e bunk room w i t h s i x beds , f o u r i n d i v i d u a l bedrooms.
MAIL CARRIER: PETE CURRAN, JR. Mail c a r r i e d by dog team;
s topped a t S a f e t y R.H. every two weeks. P e t e ' s f a t h e r r a n
Solomon Roadhouse.
SAFETY FERRY: DESCRIPTION Fer ry p u l l e d by s m a l l b o a t .
o f t e n problems w i t h c a b l e s , t i d e .
MAMIE TRAVELS BY DOG TEAM TO BLUFF ( 1 935 )/HUSBAND GEORGE
TUCKER/MINING ACTIVITY
Route.
Mining a c t i v i t y . Ca r l Olsen ope ra t ed a R.H. Tucker fami ly
had a mining o u t f i t on Swede Creek, above B l u f f . mmie mar r i ed
George Tucker: 1947.
PHOTOGRAPHS : MAMIE SHOWS INTERVIEWER HER PHOTOGRAPH ALBUM.
Time :
4:OO
Phonotape 49-
5 of P : 5 Nar ra to r : Mamie Naloney 80-06
Subjects :
PHOTOGRAPHS Safe ty R. H. and f e r r y . D i r i g i b l e "Norge".
Char l i e Dalquis t . Lindbergh's airplane.
GEORGE TUCKER
R * ~ . / C A ~ ~ NOME R.H. His tory
LIFE AT THE SAFETY R.H. & FERRY. Mamie r e c a l l s v i s i t o r s ,
boarding dogs, summer horse t r a v e l .
FLOOD OF 1945 AT SAFETY
VILLAGE OF SOLOMON, Families . School teachers .
Notes
Time:
Notes
Phonotape C- 49-
2 of 2 Narra to r : Bob Baldwin 80-11 P:
Subjects :
1918.
CAPE NOME ROADHOUSE. Acquired by Mission c.1920. Used a s
summer camp f o r orphans. Used as R.H. i n win te r s . Run by "Cap"
Schr iner f o r t h e Nission; Niss ion closed i n l a t e 1920s, R.H.
so ld ; subsequent owners. A l t e r a t i o n s i n R.H. made by CAA.
Descr ip t ion of second s t o r y dormitory rooms.
CHILDRENS ACTIVITIES : CAPE NOME R. H.
SAFETY WIRELESS TOWER, SAFETY FERRY & R.H.
Desc r ip t ion of tower. Char l i e Da lqu i s t : owner of R.H. & Ferry .
Travel between Nome and Solomon, road cond i t ions .
REV. & MRS BALDWIN. Biographical . A r r i v a l i n Nome 1909 on
honeymoon.
CAP SCHRINER. Sea c a p t a i n . A r r i v a l i n Nome. Travels .
Scandanavian popu la t ion of Nome a r e a , 1920s.
ALASKA GOLD 00. Founded 1923/24. Company h i s t o r y .
BOB BALDWINfs WORK FOR ALASKA GOLD CO. Mining methods.
P roduc t iv i ty . Wages. Hours.
END.
Phonotape C- 49-80-1 7
, CARLO, CHARLIE
IDITAROD TRAIL PRO JE CT ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
IDITAROD TRAIL PRO J E CT OFFZ CER BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHORAGE DISTRICT OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 99507
General Topics of Interview: Ruby-Poorman a r e a s i n 1930s. Mail s e r v i c e by
dog team: 1930/31. Roadhouses i n Ruby from 1931.
Date of Interview: September 14, 1980
Location of Intentiew: Ruby, Alaska Length :
In terviewer: Tom Beck, BIN His to r i an
Personal Data Comments :
Narra to r ' s Name: Charlie Carlo
Address: Box 7 , Ruby, Alaska
Telephone:
Name and address of r e l a t i v e o r f r i end :
Bir thdate : 1909
Bir thplace: Rampart, Alaska
Interview Data:
Tape No. : 80-17
Time:
Side:
Subjects :
INTRODUCTION
BLANK
CHARLIE CARLO : FAMILY BACKGROUND
T i m e :
00: 10
Phonotape C- 49-
3 P: of - 3 Narrator: Charlie Carlo80-17
Subjects :
LOCATION O F BOSTON R.H. Remains of R.H. are at curve in road
called t h e "Oxbow"
LOCATION O F 15 M I L E R.H.
LOCATION O F HUB R.H.
T R A I L LOCATION NEAR D E V I L S THUMB
WILD GOOSE R . H: LOCATION, D E S C R I P T I O N
Last proprietor: Walker.
POORMAN R.H. LOCATION, D E S C R I P T I O N
SULATNA CROSSING R.H.
HORSES: FREIGHTING AND USE I N M I N E S , 1930's
LOCATION OF LEWIS LANDING AND f f ~ ~ ~ ~ n TRAIL
TELEGRAPH L I N E AND T R A I L S ACROSS LOUDEN SLOUGH AREA
Notes
BAHN, BONNIE Phonotape C- 49-80-09
ID1 TAROD TRAIL PRO JE C I ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT OFFICER BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHOMGE DISTRICT OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 99507
General TOP its of Intemiev: Walk- through tour of Cape Nome Roadhouse
History of use, and building a l terat ions .
Date of Interview: August 4 , 1980
Location of Interview: Cape Nome, Alaska Length :
Interviewer : Tom Beck, BLP?; Bob Spude, HCRS
Personal Data Comments :
Narrator's Name: Bonnie Hahn
Address :
Telephone :
Name and address of re la t ive or friend:
Birthdate:
Birthplace:
Interview Data:
Tape N o . : 80-09 Side: A
Time :
INTRODUCTION
Subjects :
ACOUISITION OF THE CAPE NOME ROADHOUSE BY THE HAHNS ( C I R C A 1960) -
CAA USE OF TRE RH AS A C O M ~ I C A T I O N S CENTER. Changes in the
Time:
Phonotape C- 49-
2 of 3 Nar ra to r : Edgar No l lne r 80-13 P:
Sub jec t s :
1 4 m i l e s from Galena. F a t h e r ( A l ) came over Chilkoot Pass
i n 1898. Father opened t r a d i n g pos t a t Louden i n 1906.
Mother - Nat ive from Louden Slough a r e a . Family moved t o
Galena, 1920. F a t h e r t r apped , c u t wood f o r s teamboats ,
c a r r i e d mail: Old Village-Tanana-Kaltag, by dogsled and
boa t .
SERUM RUNS OF 1925/DOGS. Edgar r a n b o t h runs: January :
Whiskey Creek-Galena. March: Galena-Bishop Mtn. Dog
races i n Ruby - 1919. Weather f o r serum runs . Serum
package. Hauling wood. Lead dogs. S l e d s . John Evans
and C h a r l i e s Evans. Pay.
LEONHARD SEPPALA. T r i p from Nome-Nenana.
JOHN ANTOSKY'S ( ? ) ROADHOUSE I N GALENA.
ROADHOUSES AND TRAILS ALONG YUKON RIVER. B i l l D a l q u i s t ' s
Roadhouse a t Nula to . John Evan's Roadhouse a t Koyukuk.
Mail c a b i n a t Bishop Mtn.
MAIL SERVICE. Frequency. C a r r i e r s : Ben Derrick, John
Summers. .
EDGAR'S FATHER. From N i s s o u r i . Dawson. For tymi le .
Bear s t o r y .
Notes
Time :
Phonotape C- 49-
2 P: of 4 Narra tor : Edgar Kalland 80-18
Subjects :
v i l l a g e s from Tanana. Edgar c a r r i e s mail: Tanana t o Nenana.
1925 DIPTHERIA SERUM RUN. How Edgar came t o p a r t i c i p a t e .
Harry arti in's R.H. a t Rot Springs. Food P r i c e s . Return t r i p .
Weather. Clothing. B i l l Shanon: t r a p p e r , r a n f i r s t l e g of run.
WORK ON STEAMBOATS, FROM 1923. Edgar s t a r t e d i n 1923 working
summers on steamboats. Worked f i v e summers a s deckhand. Ten
summers a s f ireman. Engineer was L.M. Dow. Worked on "Nenana",
"~acobs" , "Alice". Navigation on Yukon and Tanana r i v e r s .
WORK FOR N.C. CO: 1947-1977
DOGS AND DOG MUSHING. Edgar's Fa the r ' s team a t Kallands.
T r i p from Kallands t o Tanana. Dog breeds. Lead dogs: how t o
p i c k them. Hunting with dog teams.
END
TAPE 80-18, SIDE "B"
INTRODUCTION
BLANK
EDGAR'S DOG "TIPPY"
1925 DIPTHERIA SERUM RUN Other serum mushers, Tanana area:
Dan Green (Hot Spr ings ) , B i l l Shannon, Johnny Folger , Sam Joseph
Harry P i tka , T i t u s Nikolai . Dan Green (omitted from Congressional
Notes -
Time :
Phonotape C- 49-
4 P: of - 4 Narrator : Edgar Kalland 80-13
Subjects
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD ACCOUNT OF 1925 DIPTHERIA SERUM RUN
Tr ibute t o DI alto" lead dog of Gunnar Kassen.
PICTURES Colonel Vaughn. "Old Man" Perry
NUTRITIONAL NEEDS OF SLED DOGS
TRAIL TO UNALAKLEET Winter t r a i l from Kaltzg t o Unalakleet .
Condition. Marking. Need f o r improvement.
Notes
Time:
Phonotape C- 49-
2 P: of 2 Narra tor : Edgar Kalland 80-18A
Subjects :
Slough R.H. Lakeshore R.H.
KALTAG PORTAGE. Map examination: (USGS 1 : 250 : Unalakleet
Norton Bay, Ophir) Eatons (1 3 miles from Unalakleet ) . Whaleback (25 mi les Unalakleet ) . Old Woman.
PETE KATONGON OF UNALAKLEET
EDGAR'S HEALTH/MISC. Edgar 's p resen t h e a l t h . B i l l y McCarty . + Modern Medicine.
HARRY KALLAND. Las t i l l n e s s . A s a f a t h e r . Gardening.
BAHNKE , J O H N (S r ) Phonotape C- 49-80-1 6
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT ORAL HISTORY PROGUM
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT OFFICER BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHORAGE DISTRIm OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 99507
General Topics of Interview: Cheokuk R.H., B lu f f , R.H.s between Bluff and
Nome, T r a i l s , ~ u i ~ l e y 's mine.
Date of Interview: August 17, 1980
Locat ion of Interview: John Bahnke's home Length:
In terviewer : Tom Beck. BLM H i s t o r i a n
Personal Data Comments :
N a r r a t o r ' s Name: John Bahnke (Sr.)
Address : Nome
Telephone: 443-25 27
Name and address o r r e l a t i v e o r f r i e n d :
B i r thda te : 1907
Bir thplace: Rocky Point a r e a below
Cheokuk
In te rv iew Data:
TapeNo.: 80-16 Side: A
Time : Subjects :
INTRODUCTION note mistake i n INTRO. John s t a r t e d mining a t
/ Quigley 's mine a t a ape 13. He worked f o r s e v e r a l years but not
13,
BLANK
Time:
Phonotape 49-
3 of P : Narrator : John Bahnke ( S r ) 80-16
Subjects :
DEXTER'S R.H. IN GOLOVZN Golovin Nission run by man named O s t .
Joe Dexter r an R..H. i n Golovin. Joe Dexters 'chi ldren and
Grandson.
CHEOKUK R. H. DESCRIPTION Single room. Doghouse. John's
f a t h e r had a par tner : "Cyclone" Hanson.
TRAPPING AND MUSHING AT CHEOKUK I N 1930s and 1940s
16:05 MINING AT BLUFF John mined on the beach a t Eldorado Creek.
Description of surf washer.
OTHER FAMILIES LIVING I N BLUFF. Pete Curran, S r . ,
Charlie Fagerstrom. Sam Tucker. Curran's R.H. a t Solomon
18:45 TOPKOK ROADHOUSE Operated by Nick Christ ianson around 1918.
Roadhouse closed a f t e r Nick l e f t .
19:55 ROADHOUSE, SOLOMON Tom Shaughnessy ( ? ) - s o l d t o Pete Curran, Sr .
22:05 POSSIBLE R.H. 'S BETWEEN SOLOMON AND TOPKOK. Spruce Creek.
Notes:
R.H. a t Pine Creek (4-5 miles from Solomon.) Very ear ly 1900s.
SAFETY R.H. Charlie Dalquis t . W i e Maloney.
CAPE NOME R.H. Cap Shriner . Frank Martin, FAA.
POLING, JOHN Phonotape C- 49-30-05
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT ORAL HISTORY PROGPa
I D I T A R O D TRAIL P R O J E C T O F F I C E R BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHORAGE DISTRICT OFF1 CE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHORAGE , ALA S U 9 95 0 7
General Topics of In t e rv i ew: Local sources of informat ion on Nome and
I d i t a r o d T r a i l h i s t o r y . Nome area roadhouses.
Date of Interview: August 2 , l g80
Loca t ion of Interview: N o m e , Alaska Length :
--
In te rv iewer : T o m Beck, BLM. Bob Spude, HCRS
Persona l Data Comments :
N a r r a t o r ' s Name: John Po l ing
Address :
Telephone :
Name and address of r e l a t i v e o r friend:
Birthdate:
Bir thp lace :
I n t e r v i e w Data:
Tape No.: 80-05 Side : A
Time : S u b j e c t s :
INTRODUCTION -- - - -
SAFETY ROADHOUSE/MAMIE VALONN G e o r g e Tucker, ~amie's
f i r s t husband: fami ly background.
JOHN POLING'S "HISTORY OF NOME PUBLIC SCHOOLS"
Time:
-L3-
Phonotape C- 49-
3 Nar ra to r : P e t e Curran, Jr. 80-07 2 of P = S u b j e c t s :
moved from Dickson. O r i g i n a l l o c a t i o n of Solomon (mouth
of Solomon R i v e r ) . Storm o f 1913.
PETE CURRAN, J R : MAIL CARRIER. P e t e c a r r i e d mail by dog
team from Solomon-Golovin ( c 1924-1 938 ) . Length of t r i p .
Dog team cargo l i m i t . O the r c a r r i e r s .
SOLOMON ROADHOUSE: DESCRIPTION AND HISTORY. Use a s s t o r e
and roadhouse. P r i c e s . Purchases . P e t e Curran, Sr : fam-
i l y .
VILLAGE OF SOLOMON. Ear lv growth- Families. School .
Mining . Decl ine of popu la t ion .
PETE CURRAN, J R : MAIL CARRIER. Routes.
SEWARD PENINSULA ROAHDOUSES : CAPE NOME-GOLOVIN Prop-
r i e t o r s : Cape Nome (Cap S c h r i n e r ) ; S a f e t y ( C h a r l i e
D a l q u i s t ) ; Bluff (Meegan (? ) ) ; Golovin ( J o e ~ e x t e r ) .
S h e l t e r cabins: Topkok, Chiukak. Old miners c a b i n a t
Spruce Creek (Knut e Drange) . PETE CURRAN, SR: MAIL CARRIER. Drove r o u t e from Golovin-
Unalaklee t . Later (c 1916-1924) drove Golovin-Nome.
TAPE 80-07, SIDE "B"
Notes -
URW\, Pete Jr. Phonotape C- 49-30-07 A
I D ITAROD TRAIL PROJECT ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
General Topics Interview:
and Safe ty Fe r r i e s .
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT OFFICER BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHORAGE DISTRICT OFFICE 4700 E ~ Z N D AVENUE ANCHORAGE , ALASKA 9 95 0 7
Dog Mushing: Seward Peninsula. T r a i l s . Bonanza
Date of Interview: August 4 , 1980
Location of Intenriew: Nome, Alaska Length:
Interviewer : Tom Beck
Personal Data Comments :
Narrator's Name: Pete Curran, Jr. This i s t h e second t ape of a two tape
Address: SeniorHousing, Apt. 10, in terview. The f i r s t t ape is #80-07.
Nome, Alaska
Telephone: 443-2732
Name and address of relative or friend:
Birthdate: 1905
Birthplace:
Interview Data:
Tape NO. :80-07-A Side: A
Time : Subjects:
LOST ON GOLOVIN BAY I C E S to ry continued from t ape 80-07. --
TRAIL MARKERS How dog mushing t r a i l s a r e marked.
CLOTHING WORN FOR DOG MUSHING. Pete desc r ibes c l o th ing h e .
ABLOOGALOOK, MARK Phonotape 49- 80-08
I D I T A R O D TRAIL PROJECT ORAL HISTORY PROGRAM
IDITAROD TRAIL PROJECT OFF1 CER BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT ANCHORAGE DISTRICT OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHORAGE, ALASKA 995 0 7
General ~~~i~~ of ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ i ~ ~ : Reindeer herding on the Seward Peninsula: early
20th century. Seward Peninsula trails.
Date of Interview: August 4 3 lggO
~ o c a t i o n of ~nterv iew: Mark's homes Nome, AK Length:
Interviewer : Tom Beck, BLM
Personal Data Comments :
Narrator's Name: Mark Abloogalook
Address : Box 747 Nome, Alaska
Telephone:
Name and address of relative or friend:
Birthdate: 1906
Birthplace: Unal'akleet , Alaska
Interview Data:
Tape No. : 80-08 Side: A
Time: Subjects:
INTRODUCTION
MARK'S EARLY YEARS AS A REINDEER HERDER
Born i n Unalakleet 1906. Starts herding a t early age
EVANS CHARLIE Phonotape C- 49- 80- 14
I D I T A R O D T M I L PROJECT ORAL IIISTORY PROGiLZ14
IDITAROD TltriIL PROJECT OFFICER BUREAU OF I A K D kiAPU'AGE!.fENT ANCIIOMGE DISTRICT OFFICE 4700 E 72ND AVENUE ANCHOUCE, ALASKA 99507
General T o p i c s of Interview: 1925 Diptheria Serum Run. Yukon River R.H.s and
cabins. Lewis Landing. "Yuki" T r a i l . Koyukuk. Dog mushing
Date of In terview: September 12, 1980
Location of Interview: Char l ie Evans' home. Length:
Galena.
Interviewer: Tom Beck, BLM Historian
P e r s o n a l Data
Na r r a to r ' s Name: Charlie Evans
Address: Box 47, Galena
Telephone:
N a m e and address of re la t ive o r friend:
Birthdate:
Bir thp lace : Koyukuk, Alaska
In te rv iew Data:
Comments :
Tape No.: Side: A '
Tine: Subjects :
XNTRODUCTI ON - - -
MAIL cONTRACTORS/ROUTES, MCGRATH AREA
CHARLIE'S FATHER ESTABLISHES STORE ON KOYUKUK RIVER.
Time:
Phonotape C 49-
p : 3 of 3 N a r r a t o r : Charlie Evans 80-14
S u b j e c t s :
BLANK
LEWIS LANDING Loca t ion of " ~ u k i " T r a i l (Dishkaket t r a i l . )
Popu la t ion . Dave ~ e w i s ' R.H. and s t o r e . Lewis moves t o Ruby.
Lewis l and ing gone by 1922.
TRAVEL ON INNOKO RIVER
YUKON RIVER TRAILS, ROADHOUSES, CABINS. Mail S e r v i c e .
Signal Corps cab ins . T r a i l l o c a t i o n . N o l l n e r ' s R.H. , Mail
cab ins : Bishop Mtn. Koyukuk, Louden, Melozi, Lewis Landing,
e t c . CHARLIE TRAVELS ON INNOKO RIVER. Cons t ruc t ion of boa t s .
Notes
Max S ime l ' s s t o r e a t Dishkaket . Fa i rv iew Landing.
LEWIS LANDING TRAIL
1925 DIPTHERIA SERUM RUN. Weather. T r a i l conditions . CHARLIE'S MAIL RUNS OF 1926
ANIMALS /TRAPPING
YUKI TRAIL/OTHER TRAILS TO MCGRATH
Mail r o u t e s . Horses
PETERSON, ANDY
IDITAROD TRAIL PRQSECT WFICE
JDITAROD TRAIL PRWEXX aRAL HISTCRY PROGRAM
BUREAU CF LAND MANAGEMENT AWHORAGE DISTRZCT ClFFICE ANCHC%IAGE, ALASKA 99507
e n e r a 1 Topics of Interview: Travel and Rodhouses on Semrd Bninsula
D a t e of interview: Aug. 15, 1980
location a£ Interview: EJcme,. Alaska Length:
Interviewer: Tbn Beck, Historian, BIM
Personal mta: Ccxments :
Narrator's Nam: Andy Peterson Yet to be transcribed ard annotated.
Address: rJ3me, Alaska
Telephone :
Name and address of relative or friend:
Birthplace : Finland
In terview Data:
TapeNo.: 80-10
Time:
Side : - Subjects:
Time:
Phonotape C- 49-
2 of P: 2 Narrator: Pete Larson 80-12
Subjects:
ROADHOUSES: SEWARD PENINSULA. Safetv RH,
Solomon RH, B l u f f .
PETE WORKS FOR US SMELTING CO.
END
Notes
Phonotape C- 49-
p : 2 of 5 N a r r a t o r : B i l l y McCarty 80-:
I n t e r v i e w Data:
Tape No.: 80-15
Time :
Notes
S ide : A
S u b j e c t s :
INTRODUCTION See " Comments" above
BLANK
ROADHOUSES RUN BY BILLY ' S STEPFATHER: KALTAG AREA
S t e p f a t h e r r a n two R.H.s below Ka l t ag : one s i x miles s o u t h
one , Slough R.H. approximate ly 16 miles s o u t h o n teambo boat"
Slough. S i x M i l e R.H. w a s summer f i s h camp. S t e p f a t h e r a l s o
c u t wood f o r s teamboats . (Slough R.H. d a t e s - see below).
TRAVEL ON IDITAROD TRAIL, EARLY 1900s.
Slough R.H. o n I d i t a r o d T r a i l . Much t r a f f i c : f o o t , s k i s ,
s l e d . D e s c r i p t i o n o f "Yukon" s l e d s . T r a v e l e r s from Ka l t ag
s topped f o r lunch a t S i x Mile, o v e r n i g h t a t Slough R.H.
SLOUGH ROADHOUSE: D e s c r i p t i o n . Long log b u i l d i n g . .
16 beds on each s i d e . S i n g l e s t o r y . Dogbarn. Na t ives supp ly
R.H. wi th moose meat.
USE OF HORSE TEAMS. Teams c a r r i e d t h e i r own f e e d . Six-horse
teams. Worked a t mining camps.
HARRY LAWRENCE: MAIL CARRIER Ran mail from Kal tag t o I d i t a r o d
coun t ry - a l s o down t o Holy Cross. T r i p made every 20 days .
Time:
21:30
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4 of 5 P: Nar ra to r : B i l l y McCarty 80-15
S u b j e c t s :
DIPTHERLA SERUM RUN OF 1925. B i l l y r a n Ruby t o Whiskey
Creek segment. Ran a t n i g h t . How B i l l y came t o
p a r t i c i p a t e . Temperature. Clothing. T r a i l c o n d i t i o n s . Serum package.
OTHER DIPTHERLA SERUM MUSHERS . Edgar Kal l and . Leonard
Seppala. Seppala r a c e s a t Ruby.
DOG SLED RACES I N ALASKA. Many communities h e l d r a c e s ,
i n c l u d i n g Ruby. After Seppala q u i t r a c i n g , many r a c e s i n
- Anchorage, Fa i rbanks , Tanana, Nenana, Ruby, Nula to , Nome.
BILLY TRAVELS TO NOME ON SAILING SCHOONER. B i l l y t r a v e l s
w i t h Eskimo t r a d e r s from Unalak lee t . REINDEER FAIR AT SHAKTOOLIK. B i l l y and 10 o t h e r boys from
Nula to t r a v e l t o r e i n d e e r f a i r he ld by Laplanders . Lapps
p icked B i l l y t o be t r a i n e d as herder .*
TAPE 80-15, SIDE "B"
REINDEER HERDING. * B i l l y he rds r e i n d e e r i n Una lak lee t
f o r Lap l ande r s .
SHAKTOOLIK REINDEER FAIR. Many events : r a c e s , load-
p u l l i n g by r e i n d e e r , e t c .
THE LAPLANDERS, REINDEER HERDERS I N ALASKA.
Notes
*Side "A" ends a s B i l l y is d i s c u s s i n g how Lapps chose him t o be t r a i n e d as a
r e i n d e e r h e r d e r . S i d e "B" begins with B i l l y d i s c u s s i n g his r e i n d e e r he rd ing
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AYCHORAGE DISTPJCT OFFICE ' '2: 5s U. s. DzPAi(mmT OF nl! I ~ T E ~ ~ R - - AND . . . - - - -.
CO~SERVATION Ano RECRE~TIOX S E ~ V I C E . - . . ALASKA AREA OFFICE
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the tape recordings and their contents listed below. - ..
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Name of Interviewer
BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMEKT 4700 EAST 72;ld AVENUE ANCHO.MGE ALASfiA 99507
Address of I n t e r v i e w e r