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Mechanics Lecture 24, Slide 2

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Combined final: Wednesday May 9 at 1:30 pm.Conflict final: Thursday May 10 at 8 am.

A: I have checked my schedule already. I will take the combined final.

C: I have checked my schedule already. I can not take either of the above. I have already notified Paco at [email protected]

B: I have checked my schedule already. I will take the conflict final.

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D: I have checked my schedule already. I can not take either of the above. I will notify Paco later today at [email protected]

E: I have not checked my schedule but I will do so today. I will notify Paco today if I have a problem.

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Show wave movie from last class

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_sfnQDr1-o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_sfnQDr1-o

Physics 211Lecture 24

Today’s Concepts:A) SuperpositionB) Standing Waves


The Wave Equation


Suppose a pulse in Case A described by the function y(x,t) = P(x-vt). Which of the following functions described the pulse in Case B?

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A) y(x,t) = P(x + vt)B) y(x,t) = -P(x + vt)C) y(x,t) = -P(x - vt)

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A) This is the equation when the wave is traveling in the negative x direction.

B) because its going left it must be x +vt and because it is starts out below the x axis it must be negativeC) The initial amplitude is negatice, so it is -P, and the velocity is negative, so it is -vt.


A) y(x,t) = P(x + vt)B) y(x,t) = -P(x + vt)C) y(x,t) = -P(x - vt)

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Q: What happens when two waves “collide?”

A: They ADD together!

Superposition


Movie (super_pulse)

Movie (super_pulse2)

“what happens when two waves that aren't the same amplitude collide?”

For linear equations, if we have two separate solutions, A and B, then A + B is also a solution!

C(t) = A(t) + B(t)

Superposition

The wave equation we derived last time is linear. (It has no terms where the variables x,t are squared.)

2 2

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1d x d x

dy v dt

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Can we predict this pattern mathematically? Of course!Just add two cosines and remember the identity:

where and

cos(Lt)

Demo

cos(Ht)

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how do we determine that the frequency is in rad/s or just /s or hertz

Standing Waves

What happens when two waves having the same frequency but moving in the opposite direction meet? Movie (super)


Wave 1 Wave 2

Wave 1Wave 2

Wave 1Wave 2

zero (Nodes)

Superposition

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Stationary wave

How it Works

Demo

How to make it:



Standing Waves

(N = 1)


Why is it that the guitar string must vibrate with fundamental frequency? What would happen if the frequency were just a little off? Does this have to do with harmonics on the strings?

(N = 1)


Standing WavesHow do wind instruments work? Do they use air as a medium for standing waves?

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/standw.html

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/waves/standw.html

Suppose the strings on your guitar are 24” long as shown. The frets are the places along the neck where you can put your finger to make the wavelength shorter, and appear as horizontal white lines on the picture.

When no frets are being pushed the frequency of the highest string is 4 times higher than the frequency of the lowest string. Is it possible to play the lowest string with your finger on any of the frets shown and hear the same frequency as the highest string?

A) Yes B) No4

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If you want to increase the frequency of a 24” string by a factor of 4 while keeping the tension the same, how long should the string be?

A) 4” B) 6” C) 8” D) 12”

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Is there a fret that you can push on this guitar to make the string 6” long?

A) Yes B) No

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The highest string vibrates with a frequency that is 4 times that of the lowest string.

Compare the speed of a wave on the high string and the low string:

A) vhigh = vlow*2

B) vhigh = vlow*4

C) vhigh = vlow*16

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The speed of a wave on the high string is 4 times the speed on the lowest string.

If the tensions are the same, how does the mass per unit length of the strings compare:

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A) mlow = mhigh*2

B) mlow = mhigh*4

C) mlow = mhigh*16

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Two cylinders have the same length and are made from the same material. If the mass of the bigger one is 16 times the mass of the smaller one, how do their diameters compare?

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A) dlow = dhigh*2

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C) dlow = dhigh*16

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The 6 strings on a guitar all have about the same length and are stretched with about the same tension. The highest string vibrates with a frequency that is 4 times that of the lowest string.

If the strings are made of the same material, how would you expect the diameters of the lowest and highest strings to compare?

dlow

dhigh

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A) dlow = dhigh*2

B) dlow = dhigh*4

C) dlow = dhigh*16

The highest string vibrates with a frequency that is 4 times that of the lowest string. If the strings are made of the same material, how would you expect the diameters of the lowest and highest strings to compare?

dlow

dhigh

B) My guitar uses standard Ernie Ball slinkies. The low E uses a .36 and the high E uses a .10. I love how guitar helps me do physics. Really, now, the frequency is inversely proportional to the square root of the mass, which means the mass density has to be be 16 times greater for the low string, which means the radius has to be 4 times as large.

A) dlow = dhigh*2

B) dlow = dhigh*4

C) dlow = dhigh*16


We just found that the frequency of a string scales with its diameter if the tension is the same.

This is really what you find if you examine a guitar:

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dhigh

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Their diameters are about half of the adjacent strings.

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The lighter string in these pairs is one octave higher (2x frequency).

Different Example – 12 String Guitar


m = m/L

v = L/t

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Homework Problem

Can we go over how changing the length affects things. Specifically the slinky problem on the homework last night.

Average speed = distance / time = 4A/P = 4Af

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