HWTM v9-32 Joe Dispenza 06-07-12 - Jennifer McLean's ...€¦ · Jennifer McLean’s Healing With...

DR. JOE DISPENZADR. JOE DISPENZA JUNE JUNE 77 , 2012, 2012

HEALINGWITHTHEMASTERS.COM

www.premiertranscription.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com

Jennifer McLean’s Healing With The Masters: Vol. 9 of 29 Guest: Dr. Joe Dispenza June 7, 2012 Copyright 2012. All Rights Reserved. Jennifer McLean | Healing With The Masters

Host Volume 9 | June 7, 2012 Guest

Jennifer McLean HEALINGWITHTHEMASTERS.COM Dr. Joe Dispenza

Jennifer: Welcome, everyone, to Healing With The Masters. This is our final show of Volume 9 before

encore week starts next week, and so stay tuned. There’s still some more calls coming up in the next two weeks, but tonight is our final interview show. We couldn’t have finished it with a better guest than Dr. Joe Dispenza. Before I introduce Joe officially, I want to do my little blurb about masters and talk about what that word actually means.

Over the years, we kind of got some flack. How dare you interview masters? But you know

what? Always the intention has been that, while we may think of masters as the wonderful guests that share their knowledge and experiences with us each week, we actually consider you to be the master, each of you in this audience, you the participant. No one knows you better than you, and no one is more uniquely qualified to transform your life than you. Today we will together, in this beautiful community, discover the tools and techniques to heal, to continue to shift your life into love and light and, in the process, truly make a difference on this beautiful planet of ours. Together we are a powerful community. You matter. You can light up the world.

Tonight we are so blessed to welcome, as our final guest of Volume 9, Dr. Joe Dispenza.

Neuroscientist, lecturer and author, Joe is an expert on the brain, mind and human potential. He has spent decades studying the human mind, how it works and stores information, why it perpetuates the same behavior patterns over and over. He draws on both scientific and universal principles to deliver practical tools and techniques that empower people to truly, truly change from the inside out and so change the results in their life.

Dr. Joe was featured in the movie What the Bleep Do We Know? And the new film People vs.

the State of Illusion, coming to a theater near you. Dr. Joe has written two bestselling books, Evolve Your Brain: The Science of Changing your Mind and the just‐published, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One, which has become the number one book in self‐help and personal development on Amazon just the week after it came out.

We are so honored to welcome Dr. Joe Dispenza to Healing With The Masters. Welcome. Joe: Thank you very much. I’m happy to be with everybody. Jennifer: It’s lovely to have you here. I’ve been enjoying your book, and it’s fascinating. It was a

workout for my brain to start with, just reading it.



Joe: Oh, dear. Jennifer: In a really great way. It really got me thinking and really got me focused on the role that I play

in my life and how things influence my life. So my first question is why do we need to lose our minds in order to create a new one?

Joe: Well, we always want to keep everything that works for us, but I think, for the most part, the

psychological model, Jennifer, tells us that by the time we’re 35 years old, we’ve pretty much memorized a set of behaviors and emotional reactions, our beliefs and perceptions, our attitudes that run like automatic computer programs. So we have certain traits and characteristics that function pretty much subconsciously.

It’s not that there’s anything wrong with that. It’s just that, when we have new experiences

and we gain new information, the brain upscales its hardware to reflect everything we learned. That’s called neuroplasticity, that in fact we’re changed by every thought we think, every experience we have, every dream we fantasize about. Our brain literally changes.

When we have new experiences, the information from the emotions created from the

experience signals new genes in new ways, and we actually evolve our being. So I think we reach a certain point in our life where we stop learning and we start feeling, and since feelings are the record of past experiences, we don’t really gain any new information for the body, and now we’re headed for our genetic destiny. So I think one of our soul’s agendas is to really continue to learn and evolve.

Jennifer: Wow. So new genes are actually created? We’re actually recreating ourselves in every way? Joe: Absolutely, and the concept is called epigenetics. What makes this new science so unique is

that, if you’re studying organisms and mammals in an environment that’s never changing — like they used to say the brain never grows any new neurons.

Well, they were studying rodents in an unchanging environment, but you put that same

rodents in an environment where they have to actually create and do things differently and form bonds and use tools and find ways to stimulate themselves. Those rodents’ brains actually grow new neurons.

If our personality creates our personal reality and our personality is made up of how we think,

how we act and how we feel, then the present personality, who’s listening on this call, has created their present, personal reality called their life, which means, if we want to create a new personal reality, some change in our life on a fundamental level, we’re going to have to look at the thoughts that we’re thinking and change them, become aware of our habits and behaviors that undermine our goals and begin to enact new behaviors and look at the emotions that we’ve memorized that really keep us anchored to the past and begin to change our emotional state.

When we do, we create a new destiny. I think most people try to create a new personal reality

as the same personality, and so when we have new experiences, those new experiences create new emotions. Those emotions, then, are literally information from the environment that actually signals the gene.


Jennifer: Wow. That was about two minutes of what could be an hour. Joe: I’m sorry. Jennifer: No. It’s great. It’s such good stuff. Please don’t apologize. So we’ve got think, act and feel

equals the personality. Then we create our life through thought, habits and behaviors and emotions that we have memorized, but when we are looking for a change, if we are changing from that same think, act and feel, which is the same personality, then our life doesn’t change. So is it that we have to change what we think, how we act and how we feel, and that is how we can create a new life?

Joe: Absolutely. New thoughts create new choices. New choices create new behaviors. New

behaviors create new experiences. New experiences create new emotions, and when your mind and your body or your thoughts and feelings have changed, you’re in a new state of being. A new state of being is a new personality.

So again, the new science shows that all we have to do is not just change our mind in terms of

liking vanilla ice cream instead of chocolate ice cream, but really, on a gut level, begin to make measurable changes that begin to produce effects in our life.

Now, the Newtonian model of physics says that most people wait for something outside of

them in their environment to change how they feel inside of them. You wait for some event to occur, and then you give thanks. Then when the experience happens, you feel fulfilled. In other words, you’re really at the effect of your external environment.

The quantum model of reality says let’s change the way we think and feel and see if we can

produce effects in our life. So one was cause and effect, and the other one is causing an effect. So if we can begin to make internal changes in the way we think, in the way we feel and moving to a new state of being and then maintain that modified state of being, then there should be evidence in our life. That evidence should come in a way that we least expect.

In other words, when the new manifestation or experience comes, it should come in a way

that we’ve never thought of, because if we’ve thought of it, it’s nothing new. It’s got to really be a unique co‐creation with the field, and that new experience, of course, is then what begins to validate what we did inside of us to produce some feedback outside of us. We’ll pay attention to what we did, and we’ll do it again. That’s when people begin to become empowered.

Jennifer: So what is the field? Joe: Well, the quantum field, we kind of toss that word around loosely, but the field is — there’s an

intelligence that gives life to all things. It’s beyond space and time. It’s both personal and universal. It’s within us and all around us. It is what unifies everything material. As a matter of fact, everything material comes from this field, and because it’s the same intelligence that keeps the heart beating and digesting our food and creating 25 million cells every second and creating 100,000 chemical reactions in one cell in one second, it’s that intelligence that’s giving us life.


That’s the same intelligence that’s creating supernovas and forcing a lily to bloom and keeping

the planets rotating around the sun. It’s this invisible field that we all get to use in the process of creation, and it’s very responsive to how we think and feel.

So as we begin to create our future, we are co‐creating with something, some invisible

intelligence that begins to work with us in designing the results or conditions we would like to experience in our life.

Jennifer: Wow. So the field is something that we can play within, using this notion of our feelings.

You’ve talked quite a bit about feelings. Can you share a little bit about what is — in your terminology and your perception, what is a feeling that is a place of creation?

Joe: Sure. If we think about this, feelings and emotions are the end‐product of past experience,

and we can remember experiences better because we can remember how they feel. When you’re in the midst of an experience, your senses plug you into the environment, and everything you’re seeing and smelling and tasting and feeling and hearing, all that information is rushing back to your brain through those five sensory pathways.

The moment that information reaches your brain, jungles of neurons begin to organize

themselves into patterns. The moment those neurons string into place, the brain releases a chemical, and that chemical is called a feeling. So you can remember graduating from college. You can remember the birth of one of your children. You can remember going on vacation to a unique place, and you can remember catching a fish off the coast of Mexico, because all of those novel experiences change your internal space.

Once you notice you feel differently inside of you, all of a sudden, you wake up for a second,

and you pay attention to whatever it was that caused it outside of you. That event, in and of itself, is called a memory.

So most Americans can tell you exactly where they were on 9/11, who they were with, what

time of day it was, what they were doing, because all that vital information that reached their brain, everything they were seeing and hearing changed how they felt inside of them. They correlated that alteration in their feelings with what they were seeing outside of them, and that begins to associate that memory.

So if feelings and emotions are the end‐product of past experiences and we live by the same

feelings and emotions every day, by very definition, not very many new things are happening in our lives. If those feelings are driving our thoughts and they’re driving our behaviors and feelings are a record of the past, then by very definition, we’re thinking in the past. We can’t go to a new future holding on to the emotions of the past.

So most people, layer by layer, we wear these emotions that become part of our identity, and

when we react to conditions in our life, events in our life that alter us emotionally, there’s a refractory period of chemicals that are created. If we don’t know how to control our emotional reactions — and that refractory period can continue to run for hours or days. That’s called a mood.


You say to someone, “Why are you in a mood?” They say, “Oh, well, this event happened to me three days ago,” which means they’re just living by the same emotional reaction. If that same emotional reaction lasts for weeks or months, that’s called a temperament. Why does he have such an angry temperament? You say, “Why are you so angry?” He says, “Well, this happened to me six months ago,” which means I’m living by the same emotional reaction for the last six months.

If we keep the same emotion running for years on end, that’s called a personality trait. So

most people’s personalities are defined by their past. Once, again, we can’t go to a new future if we’re really nailed down or held down by the emotions of the past. The idea, then, is really to begin to look at those emotions that really keep us from creating a new future.

Now, in the process of creation, if we’re holding onto guilt or shame or unworthiness or

insecurity, those emotions have become so familiar to us that that’s who we think we are. Then when a person wants to create a new life and they’re thinking positively but they feel negatively, or they’re focusing on their new future and they want wealth but they feel unworthy — if thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body, we have mind and body in opposition.

The process of creation really means that we have to recondition the body to a new mind. We

have to begin to move into an elevated motion of how the event would feel before it’s made manifest, and when we can begin to tune into that elevated emotion, now the emotion is no longer a record of past. It’s actually being used to fuel a new future.

Jennifer: So we can start creating a 9/11 moment for ourselves. Joe: Yeah, hopefully something a little more uplifting. Jennifer: A positive version but something that’s going to create a chemical reaction in our body that

retains that personality, that turns into a personality with feelings, that is coherent with the brain and the body.

Joe: Absolutely. Jennifer: Actually, I just brought up a term, coherence, that you do talk about in the book. Is that what

you’re talking about of coherence, which is when the brain and the body are matching? Joe: Yeah. There’s been tons of research that show that when we live in stress, when we live

reacting to things in our life — the privilege of being a human being is that we can make thought more real than anything else. One of the big things that we found out in biology is that we can begin to turn on the stress response just by thought alone.

We can think about some future event, some worst case scenario. We can focus on it to such

a degree that we begin to turn on stress chemicals just by thinking about something that could potentially happen. We can unfold a past, bitter memory that’s tattooed in the recesses of our brain matter, and like magic, it comes to life.


Those stress chemicals create a very strong disorderly or disintegration or incoherence between the brain and body. It’s what knocks the brain and body out of balance. Coherence is when the brain begins to get back online, when it begins to become more rhythmic, more synchronized, more orderly.

When that happens, it begins to function more as a whole, and when we feel more whole or

we feel more complete, then we’re in a state where mind and body are working together, that coherence that we begin to become familiar with. We can memorize these levels of coherence so that the incoherence of the external environment really has no effect on us.

I think that’s really a good working definition of a master, is when we’ve memorized such an

internal chemical order, such a level of coherence that the incoherence of the external world really doesn’t change how we’re functioning within ourselves.

Jennifer: Yeah. I’ve watched master, and I’ve even had little moments myself, where the same life is

showing up, the same kind of “disaster” has appeared, appearing disasters show up. Yet I have moments when it just doesn’t impact me any longer. I’ve definitely seen the masters who just are not “triggered” by it. They just flow through it as if nothing is going wrong. Is that kind of what you’re talking about? That’s that level of coherence?

Joe: Yeah. There was a research study done at the University of Wisconsin where they took a

group of Buddhist monks, and they put them in a functional scan to measure the orderliness of their brain. These monks produce such a high level of coherence, such a rhythmic pattern in their brain. They had never measured it before in the history of neuroscience.

They took these guys, and they sent them out into the city and said, “Take a bus, and go to the

museums. Go get some tea, and spend a day out in the world.” When they came back, after eight hours in the city, they put them back in the scan. These monks still had the same level of coherence in their brain eight hours later.

In other words, there was such an orderliness that was created that they weren’t beginning to

become triggered in any way by anything outside of them. That kind of coherence really means, then, that the outer world doesn’t have an impact on our state of being. I think that we’re all capable of doing it, and I think science is becoming the contemporary language of mysticism, because it begins to demystify what, I think, so many masters have been saying for so many generations.

Jennifer: Science is the contemporary mysticism. I love that. So this notion of associated memory I find

really fascinating. I’ve heard throughout the years of people who kind of cling to what I call limited beliefs and cling to their stories of trauma and the events that happened. So is that that associated memory, and is that what kind of keeps us “stuck”?

Joe: Well, the short answer is yes. I think that when we have associative memories — a good

example of associative memory is you have emotions that you memorized that become part of your personality. Then when you get in circumstances or situations that stimulate that emotion, it automatically turns your brain and body on to move back into the past.


Here’s an example. Those emotions that I’m talking about are pretty addictive. They’re strong chemicals that wake the brain and body up momentarily. We begin to become somewhat reliant or junkies on those emotional states to reaffirm our identity so we can remember who we think we are, and so people keep the problems and the conditions in their life to reaffirm the emotion that they’re addicted to.

Think about it. If you’re addicted to chocolate and I slid a chocolate cake in front of you, for

the most part, your body would begin to automatically or autonomically respond. Your body would begin to naturally, physiologically change, because an addiction is when the body becomes the mind.

Now, if you broke the addiction to chocolate cake and I put the chocolate cake in front of you,

you could eat it or not eat it. You wouldn’t have any voices in your head telling you to do it or, “Start tomorrow. Everybody else is eating chocolate cake.” You could eat a piece or not eat a piece, but you wouldn’t have the strong physiological response.

Now, as long as we live by those emotions, guilt, shame or anger or hatred or whatever it is,

unworthiness — we memorize those emotions. Then when we walk back into our life, any person or anything at anytime or anyplace that begins to create that association to that emotion, our body automatically or autonomically returns back to the old self.

This is where a person says, with all of their intention, “I want a new life. I want to get in

shape. I’m declaring I want to change my lifestyle,” they start off with good intentions, and then two hours later they’re sitting on the couch with the remote control, and they’re eating Haagen‐Dazs, with no idea how they got there.

That’s because associative memory — they interacted in their environment at the same place

with the same emotions, and they physiologically returned back to the old emotional state. So break the emotional addiction, and you can walk out into your environment, and you’re no longer seduced back into the same self.

Jennifer: So I’ve been recently — and I’m kind of transparent in my stuff. I’ve been recently trying to

break the habit of anger, especially at technology. That’s where I have my temper tantrums. So what would you recommend for someone like me who’s — one of the recent things I’ve been hearing from my own internal guidance is just simple the words stop it, but what would you recommend for someone like me or someone else who’s really playing at and working hard at changing kind of one of these associative memory responses or reactions?

Joe: Okay. Well, let’s talk about it, because that’s a great metaphor. There’s nothing wrong with

having an emotional reaction. Emotions are part of life. The question is how long does it last. In other words, does it last for a few moments, or does it last the whole day or last for weeks? What is the amplitude of the emotion?

If the emotion is driving you so far out of balance, then there is a need to change it, because

the chemicals that are created from your anger reaction physiologically only last 90 seconds to two minutes. So I tell my children, “Anything after that, you’re faking it.” In other words, you’re keeping that emotion going. There’s a need to keep it going.


So if you understand that the emotions of anger are addictive and those emotional chemicals in the short term are okay but in the long term they’re pushing the genetic buttons that begin to create disease in your body, you may say that no one or nothing is worth it, once you begin to understand that, “Gosh, darn it. The only person I’m affecting with this anger is myself.” You would begin to get a little bit more serious about making a change.

Now, anger is the emotion we’re addressing. It means, then, when you have an emotional

reaction and you feel angry, there are thoughts that you think that trigger it, and there are behaviors that you demonstrate that are driven by those emotions.

If you were to remove yourself from your environment, close your eyes and begin to observe

how you are when you’re in a state of anger, the thoughts you think and the behaviors that you demonstrate, the moment you’re observing yourself and you’re looking at yourself, thoughts, behaviors and the emotions that are driven from anger — if you’re observing it, it means you’re no longer those programs, but now you’re consciousness is observing the program. The more you can become familiar with those unconscious, automatic programs, the more you’ll have conscious control over them.

That’s actually what the word meditation means. The actual translation of the word

meditation in Tibetan means to become familiar with, to know yourself. So the first process in change requires the unlearning process. It requires becoming familiar with those thoughts, behaviors and emotions that keep you returning back to the same self, and the more aware you can become of them, in other words, the more you can remind yourself who you no longer want to be, the more control you have over it.

Then if you begin to think about, “How do I want to be when I react to my computer,” and you

begin to think about new ways of being, the process of contemplation, as you begin to speculate new ways of being, you begin to force your brain to fire in new sequences and new patterns and new combinations. Whenever you make your brain work differently, you’re changing your mind. Mind is the brain in action.

So you begin to remind yourself who you want to be, how you want to think, how you want to

act and how you want to feel. In time, you begin to install the neurological circuits in your brain and begin to emotionally signal your body — in other words, what would peace feel like? What would calm feel like? You begin to teach your body emotionally what it feels like to be in a different state.

If you do this properly, it begins to become familiar to you, because nerve cells that fire

together wire together, and in time, you begin to change your biology. Neurologically there are physical changes, and chemically there are epigenetic changes. We’ve seen in the workshops that we’ve done around the world that people have made dramatic changes in unwanted emotions just by following that simple process.

Jennifer: Wow. So 90 seconds to two minutes is all that is really occurring, and then afterwards we’re in

some kind of a loop. Joe: In some ways we’re just reaffirming the emotion just to keep the addiction going.


Jennifer: Just to keep the addiction going. Okay, this is cool. So by becoming the observer of who I am in that state, when I just simply do that and become that observing person, I am now in a new consciousness. Then I can create this new set of habits, basically, of observing and then taking myself right out of that moment of triggered — I guess it really is probably associated memory.

Joe: Absolutely. Jennifer: And then becoming familiar and knowing myself, just simply becoming aware of myself. Joe: Sure, and think about this. It’s possible, Jennifer, that you or we use something in our life,

computer, to reaffirm our addiction to anger. So it’s not the computer. It’s just that you use the computer to begin to get the emotional rush that you need to begin to reaffirm that state.

Now, when you make the decision, when you remind yourself who you no longer want to be

and you observe yourself in a meditative state, you have to make a decision about who you no longer want to be. The decision or the choice has to be made with an amplitude that’s greater than the emotional addiction.

In other words, when you make up your mind and your body begins to respond, the choice

begins to rewrite the program because the energy of the choice is greater than the addiction. When that happens, the choice becomes an experience in your mind that you never forget, and that’s when the body begins to get a new message, by making that decision with firm intention.

Jennifer: Wow. The energy of the choice is greater than the addiction. Joe: That’s the key right there. Jennifer: That’s cool. I think that might be the phrase that pays tonight, folks. The phrase that pays

tonight is the energy of the choice is greater than the addiction. We have another surprise for you for what the prize will be. The energy of the choice is greater than the addiction.

So you talk in your book — this is really, really cool stuff, by the way, Dr. Joe. I think it’s

interesting, because we are talking somewhat about the mind, and we’re having somewhat of a linear discussion, but I’m feeling an energetic shift in my body right now. What are you doing to us? What the heck’s going on here?

Joe: I’m activating new parts of your brain as you begin to look at it from a different point of view. Jennifer: Right, and that is that new causing and effect. I thought that was so cool. So instead of cause

and effect, we are now causing and being effective almost. Joe: Exactly. Jennifer: So just this conversation and the fact that we are bringing a level of consciousness to this

information is creating new feelings, and this is the notion of epigenetics. We are changing what we think and visualizing. New genes are being signaled, and we are now moving into a different — almost a new personality. Is that the idea?


Joe: Yeah. You’re moving into a new state of being, because the knowledge that we’re embracing

is causing a physiological response in your body. As your body begins to respond to the information, the energy of that new information is making its way to the cells. If your body is beginning to respond, you’re literally signaling new information to your genes, and those genes are beginning to respond, and you’re changing.

Jennifer: So how do we maintain this habit? How do we maintain this new habit and not go for the old

associated memory? Joe: Well, this is the key to change. I think most people, they wait for crisis or trauma or disease or

loss or diagnosis to really decide to make a change in life. Human nature is you’ve got to reach the lowest denominator, and then you finally say, “I don’t want to do this anymore. I don’t want to think this anymore. I don’t want to be this person any longer.”

You get to the end of your belief, and you finally surrender, and you realize that it’s not

working. My message is why wait. We can learn and change in the state of pain and suffering, or we can learn and change in the state of joy and inspiration.

I choose the latter, because if we decided every day to just wake up in the morning and ask

ourselves one simple question before we get out of bed — what is the greatest expression of myself that I want to be today? What is the greatest ideal I can be? How can I live this day as a lifetime? If you said to yourself, “I’m not going to get up until I am this person,” and you began to formulate new ways of being in your mind and you began to contemplate new ways of being, the thoughts that you were thinking in time, while you were sitting there, would literally begin to become the experience in your mind.

The moment the thought becomes the experience in your mind, the end‐product of that

experience is an emotion, and your body begins to respond. Now, when your mind and body are changing, are feeling differently than when you started, you’re moving into a new state of being. You can do that every day. That new state of being, of course, will begin to turn into a mood and then turn into a temperament and then, ultimately, into a new personality.

The hardest part of all of this, the very hardest part of all of this is something very simple. It’s

just making the time to do it. That’s it. It’s just making the time for our precious selves to begin to say, “Let me begin to throw out what I no longer need any longer, and let me use what I have that are skills and qualities that I like, and let’s continue evolving here.” That is the mastering.

Jennifer: One of the things that showed up — what I heard, like I was saying, is just stop it, when I’m in

those places. So that may be one of my triggers to move into a new state, but then I started asking questions of myself, like, “What if this actually doesn’t have any meaning? What if this doesn’t really matter?”

What other things can we do, besides asking ourselves these kind of questions, moving

ourselves into this new state, to really shift this in kind of a more conscious way, more dramatic way?


Joe: You mean how do we make the actual change? Jennifer: Yes. Joe: Well, I think one of the first things is knowledge is the precursor to experience. We have three

brains that allow us to go from thinking to doing to being. Your first brain is your thinking brain. It’s your neocortex. It’s that big walnut that sits on the outside with all the folds and valleys. It’s the seat of your conscious awareness. You’re listening to me right now with your neocortex.

Your neocortex loves new information. As a matter of fact, every time you learn something

new, you make a new connection in your thinking brain. That’s what learning is. Learning is forging new connections. So if you read the book on compassion, if you read the book on how to be a great parent, if you read the book of wealth, if you read the book on success, if you read the book on how to go into emotional intelligence, all of that information is stored in your thinking brain. It’s philosophy. It’s theory. It’s intellectual data.

Now, when you take what you learn intellectually and you apply it, if you can personalize it, if

you can demonstrate it, it means you’re going to have to modify your behavior in some way and do something differently. Now, if you change your actions and you do something differently, you’re going to have a new experience.

As we’ve been saying all along, when you have a new experience, you have a new emotion,

and when the new emotion comes, you activate the second brain, the limbic brain, the chemical brain, the emotional brain. So after you read the book on how to be a great parent or emotional intelligence or compassion, now it’s time to put the rubber to the road.

If you can get your behaviors to match your intentions, your actions equal to your thoughts,

get your mind and body working together, then you are going to literally begin to embody knowledge. In other words, when you face off with your enemy who betrayed you at the staff party, now instead of judging them and reacting as the old self, you quiet down the circuits in your brain that are connected to the old self, and you begin to remind yourself who you do want to be. You begin to activate new circuits.

When you walk into that experience at the Christmas party at work and you find compassion in

you or you find forgiveness and you do what the book says, the moment you begin to feel forgiveness or love or compassion, you’re teaching your body emotionally to understand what your mind has intellectually understood.

So knowledge is for the mind, but experience is for the body. The moment we begin to

embody knowledge, the words become flesh. In other words, it’s no longer just a theory or philosophy. Now it’s literally becoming a truth, and cells begin to respond because new information begins to signal new genes, and now you’re beginning to unify mind and body.

Now, it’s not enough to do it once. We have to be able to repeat the experience over and over

again, over and over again, over and over again, over and over again, until we activate that third brain, called the cerebellum, the seat of the subconscious. In other words, we’ve


practiced it so many times that we no longer have to think about it. It’s automatic. It’s second nature. It’s innate. It’s who we are.

In other words, we neurologically and chemically conditioned our body to memorize

compassion or being great parents or patience or forgiveness, as well as the conscious mind. When the body and the mind are one, or the body knows as well as the mind, now we’re in a state of being. That state of being, then, is when we memorize an internal, neurochemical order, a level of coherence that nothing outside of us could move us from.

As a matter of fact, we get to a point where we know how, but we don’t even know how we

know how. It’s just who we are. That’s when we are beginning to take knowledge and begin to evolve it into truth or into wisdom.

Jennifer: Wow. Okay, so if we’re thinking wealthy thoughts but we feel poor, we’re not going to create

financial abundance. Is there something about how we are and how we interact with the “field” that can create a new reality for ourselves?

Joe: Sure, and this isn’t something that happens over night, but we’ve been saying that 95 percent

of who we are by the time we’re 35 is a set of memorized behaviors and emotional reactions in which the body has been conditioned to be the mind. So the person thinks certain thoughts. The moment they think certain thoughts, they begin to feel the way they think. The moment they begin to feel the way they think, they begin to think the way they feel. Once they think the way they feel, they drive more thoughts to feel the way they think.

So if you think thoughts of lack, you’re going to feel lacking. The moment you feel lack, you’re

going to think more lacking thoughts, and then you’re going to feel more lack. The cycle of thinking and feeling, over time, creates the state of being. That’s where we begin to teach the body to memorize lack better than the conscious mind.

So now lack becomes a subconscious program, and so now the person is going to use 5

percent of their conscious mind to change 95 percent of what they’ve memorized. The process of change requires moving into the operating system of the subconscious, and that’s what meditation does to get beyond the analytical mind and enter into the subconscious where we can begin to reprogram those unwanted behaviors.

So a person, then, as they begin to decide, “Well, look, I no longer want to live in lack,” or, “I

no longer want to be a person who feels poor,” then, “Let me begin to denature the program. Let me begin to look at how I think, those hardwired programs that are happening behind the scenes of my awareness and look at the emotions that I’ve memorized, that I’ve conditioned my body to believe it’s in lack.

So the body’s living in the past because they’ve had some experiences that caused them to

believe that they are unworthy of wealth. So now, once we begin to view it and we begin to observe it and we begin to make those changes in the operating system, then it’s time to reprogram.

So the process of change requires unlearning and relearning. It requires breaking the habit of

the old self, reinventing a new self. It requires, what we say in neuroscience, pruning synoptic


connections and sprouting new connections, unmemorizing memories in the body and reconditioning the body to a new mind or to a new emotion. It requires moving from the past, the energy of the past, to a new energy in the future.

Jennifer: There’s a chapter in your book called The Gap, where you tell your personal story of your lack

of joy when you seem to have it all. Can you maybe share a little bit about that as kind of an analogy of what you’re talking about?

Joe: Sure. I think by the time we get to a certain point in our life, Jennifer, I think most of us can

agree we’ve pretty much experienced most of what life has to offer. We’ve had relationships. We have a sexual identity. We’ve had painful situations. We’ve experienced guilt and shame and unworthiness. We’ve experienced success and failure, and pretty much by the time we’re in our late 30s and early 40s, we can predict the feeling of every experience in our life.

When we reach this point, all of a sudden, we begin to realize that not many of the feelings

that we’ve been living by are going away. So the first 35 years of our life we can use the external environment to begin to create new experiences that take away some of the core emotions that we’ve learned to live by early in our life.

We create this gap. If you put one hand above your hand and the other hand at your navel,

that gap is — the upper hand is how we appear to the world, and the bottom hand is how we feel inside of us. Early on in our life we may have had some experiences that created some emotions. The emotions were troubling, but we’ve gone on and lived our life. We went to school, and we made friends. Then we went to another school, and we made new friends. Then we bought cars, and we got married, and we got divorced, and we got cars and homes. We begin to identify with our environment to create an identify.

The environment distracts us from those feelings that we have inside of us, and that works

really well until a certain point where, all of a sudden, nothing is making that feeling go away. This is the midlife crisis, and so people have to make a choice. Do they look down at that feeling that’s not going away and begin to tell the truth about it and say, “Geez, what is God? What is life all about? Where do we go when we die? What is love? I don't even know if I love you.”

They begin to, all of a sudden, look at that feeling and say, “I’ve got to look at this feeling, and I

can’t really explain it, but this is the feeling that I’ve been running from my whole life.” These people reach that point, and they start breaking their emotional bonds and their emotional agreements with everybody in their life, who are doing the same exact thing, by the way.

This is when they take them to the doctor, and they medicate them. They, all of a sudden,

return right back to that top hand, living that image or that façade or that personality that’s connected to people and things, with things we own and the places we’ve lived. This is the moment where a person goes back to the same self.

Other people, they try to recreate a new identity. They try to reinvent themselves, but instead

of doing it from within, they buy the new sports car, or they buy the new boat, or they join the new social club to meet new people, or they go to a new place on vacation. But when the novelty of all that wears off, that bottom hand where the feeling is returns again.


The gap, then, is the layers of emotion that we memorize that really begin to cause us to

create separation for who we are. Now, as we begin to look at those emotions and unmemorize them, we begin to close the gap between how we appear and who we are. Every time we unmemorize an emotion, we liberate energy. That energy becomes the available energy that we can use to create a new destiny.

This is an interesting point, but we reach this point, and all of a sudden, we realize that we’re

living for everybody else but ourselves. If our life ends and all the people disappear and the environment disappears and all the things we own disappear, all we’re left with is that bottom hand, how we really feel. We could be the richest person or the smartest person or the most popular person, the most successful person, but at the end of our life, we haven’t evolved at all because that emotion is the same emotion. That’s how we continuously create the same lifetimes over and over again.

Jennifer: So here we are, and we are now — there’s a shift in the energy of the call just from what you

said. Gaining this knowledge changes the chemistry in our body, in our being. So how do we now move this into more of a dialogue? I know that you talk about open‐ended inquiries that lead to a fluid stream of consciousness. Can you give us some examples of what that is and how we can use that?

Joe: Well, sure. Possibility is really what stimulates, I think, most people, because possibility is all

about hope. You and I and everybody that is alive at this particular time in history, this is an amazing time to be alive, because I don’t think in human history so many people have been so aware and so conscious, and information is so readily available. So a great time to begin to look at possibility.

Because you and I have come with all the biological machinery, all the tools to begin to apply

knowledge into our lives, it begins to become a question of really what do we want. Some people may want certain goals or certain material things. Other people may want peace and happiness, but as we begin to gather information and as we begin to really look at a new way of being and we begin to speculate options and possibilities, that creates hope for ourselves.

I think it’s a great time in history to be alive, and I think we are pretty much the people that

we’re waiting for, that most people, I think, reach a certain point in their life where they begin to see through the illusion of all of this. They want to begin to become somebody else. The new science absolutely shows that there’s a lot of room for you and I to begin to look at new ways of being and creating the life that we want.

So yeah, if you begin to just understand, first of all, this particular time when all the paradigms

are beginning to collapse, the environment, the political model, the economic model, the religious model, the educational model, medical model, all beginning to collapse, it’s a great time for something else to be born. I think that you and I have to be the living example of all the changes that we want to see in the world.

It’s not enough to just think it. We have to demonstrate it, and when we demonstrate it, I

think we give people permission to do the same. A great time in history to actually apply these principles.


Jennifer: Dr. Joe, would you be open to maybe giving us a little guided meditation? Joe: Sure. Jennifer: Would that be okay? Joe: Sure. Jennifer: Awesome. Joe: So how long do I have, about ten minutes? Jennifer: Yes. Joe: Okay. So if you close your eyes now and you draw your attention to your heart and you

become aware of the space that your heart is in in space and you take a breath in through that space and then exhale through that space, being present the entire time, you begin to become aware of the space around your body in space.

You can sense the volume of space that that space is in in space. If you begin to become

aware, something was giving you life. You begin to turn to this intelligence within you, and you begin to, on the altar, decide what aspect of yourself you would like to trade for some new aspect of yourself. There is an emotion, a behavior, an attitude that you would like to surrender for a greater mind. What would that be?

Can you begin to become conscious of how you think when you’re in a state of being? What

are the thoughts that keep you connected to the same self? What are the behaviors and habits that you repeatedly demonstrate that you would like to change? What emotions have you memorized that you would like to surrender to a greater mind? Can you become conscious by observing yourself, who you no longer want to be and become familiar with those states of mind and body?

Now can you make a decision, with firm intention, of who you no longer want to be and have

the decision and the choice be greater than the addiction of the old self to the degree that your body begins to respond? Let the choice be an experience that you never forget.

Now surrender the state of being to a greater mind and ask it to resolve it in a way that’s right

for you. Now who do you want to be when you open your eyes? What is the greatest ideal of yourself? How would a great person think? How would they act, and how would they feel?

Move into a new state of being. Allow your body to begin to respond as if that future you is

living now, signaling new genes in new ways. Can you teach your body emotionally what it feels like to be unlimited? What would that feel like? What is inspiration? Can you teach your body emotionally what it feels like to be moved by the spirit? What would that feel like?


From a new state of being, a new state of being is a new personality, and a new personality creates a new personal reality. As you begin to memorize this state of being, is there any event in your future that you would like to create from this new state of being?

Allow yourself to command matter in this moment. If a picture comes or an image comes,

hold it for a second and release it into the field. Another one comes. Continue the process. Now finish the process of creation. Bring your awareness back to your heart, the center of

unity, consciousness. Breathe in through that space. Bring your awareness back to your body in your environment and in this time. When you’re ready, you can open your eyes.

Jennifer: Wow. I’m actually quite emotional. Thank you, Dr. Joe. That was beautiful. Joe: You’re welcome. Jennifer: It feels like we might have changed the planet just a little bit with all of us doing that at once. Joe: I hope so. Jennifer: Wow. That was really quite lovely, and I am picturing how this show — one of the things I saw

in my little vision is how this show and what you did for us, both in triggering our knowledge that triggered the biochemistry and that beautiful meditation — really the guidance that you gave us there is changing hundreds of thousands of lives in the next three or four days.

Joe: Well, thank you so much, Jennifer. I appreciate that. Jennifer: It’s really beautiful. I want to ask you one final question, but I want to talk a little bit about

your special offer, so for those that are listening, also, the phrase that pays tonight is the energy of the choice is greater than the addiction. Energy of the choice is greater than the addiction. We’ve got a surprise for you from Dr. Joe for that phrase that pays.

I want to talk a little bit about your special offer, and again, hang on, folks, because I’m going

to ask a really good question at the end here. We’ve got a really cool offer that has never been released anywhere else in this format. It’s powerful, and I’ve already got someone on the line saying that she’s being listening to your — this is Joyce Muntz, and she said she’s been listening to your lectures and read your books since October of 2008, and she could listen to you for 24/7 and learn something new every time. “Joe has changed my life.”

Thank you, Joyce, for sharing that, because I think this special offer will do that for you. The

special offer is about transforming your thoughts, your behaviors, your action into beautiful reality, overflowing with love, peace and abundance. Those are my trigger words, so I’m happy about this one. I’m the first on the list to get this.

It’s really about steering your existence into a state of greatness, allowing yourself to know

and embody happiness, to rid yourself of painful memories. Even the associated memories can be released through this powerful information. Rewrite negative thoughts. Live in positivity. Conquer nagging stress, frustration, anger, and even reshape your physical body.


What’s so cool about this and what Dr. Dispenza has been talking about this whole show is he uses this wonderful combination of knowledge that, my perception, from a non‐scientific — and what I felt for years is that when the mind can block something, it allows the heart to open up to create. I think that his process and his work does that better than anyone I’ve met.

So what you’re going to get in this powerful offer is basically a year‐long project with Dr.

Dispenza that is actually 12 audios, 12 one‐hour audio sessions that are really going deep into what this is and assisting you in growing by leaps and bounds. You’re going to go into the Past, Present and Future, understanding why we keep creating, experiencing these known and familiar things and making the change to create a different future.

Audio two is about Making Waves, understanding what science has to say about brainwaves

and their effect on your life and know the real power of meditation. Audio number three is Using Your Brain for Change, asking the questions that engage your

frontal lobe. Imagine that. You’re going to ask the questions that are actually going to engage the frontal lobe, to allow your brain to fire in new ways and remap the stored information in your brain. This is the coolest stuff.

Then there’s Pay Attention: It’s Worth It. We talked a little about this on the call about how

really noticing, becoming aware, paying attention to yourself and sifting through the subconscious thoughts that actually are shaping your reality. That’s just number four.

Number five is changing your energy, changing your life. Number six, we’ve got a couple of

open session Q and A’s. The open question ones, I think, are my favorites, because they go so deeply into the brain questions that everyone has. It’s just jam‐packed full of information and really dives into a journey into your own transformation.

Then he’s going to talk about the gap, as we talked about tonight, and understand what it

means to change, how to meditate for change, how to appear as you truly are, really being that authentic self.

Then audio ten is The Time Is Now, understanding energy medicine and the changes. He’s

going to talk about EFT a little bit and why it works and how to attain a coherent state. He talked about, on the show, how important that was.

Then Turning the Divine Inside Out is number eleven. It’s a lovely one. It’s seeing the

difference that living in a coherent state can make. It’s about, basically, living in the Divine every day. You can even improve your health, shape your body. It’s a powerful show.

Then finally, Breaking the Habit, jumping into the notion of mining for the Divine and seeing

how you can use the divinity to influence certain areas of your life, really changing the habits of your life. That’s item number one.

Then item number two, we’ve got Becoming Aware, Giving, Conscious, Loving Workshop. This

is brand new, never been offered before, and it’s about reaching the summit of your energetic state and experiencing freedom, a lightness of heart and limited possibility. This one, there’s a lot of guided meditation. There is wonderful direction. There is intelligent explanation of you


becoming more aware, giving, conscious, willful and loving and really, really finding Wholeness, which is item number two. It’s about daring to be original. Even knowing and understanding when you’re present.

Then on top of that, we have one more, The Art of Change: A Practical Approach to

Transforming Yourself & Your Life. So he’s going to take you on a journey into the inner workings of your brain and discover how to define your path. Really it’s about pruning the synaptic connections — I love that — and then allowing you to shape your potential, shape your expertise and write a new life.

Then we’ve got one more. Can you believe this, folks? The Reinvention of Self: A Guide to

Changing Your Reality From the Inside Out. So this is about how to reinvent yourself. He talks a lot here about your personality and creating your personal reality and how you think and react and how to redefine your personal reality by changing your thought process and your neurology. It’s a beautiful, eye‐opening, powerful session, and I think you guys are going to just love this one.

Again, all of that is yours at a huge discount, 68 percent off. Do you have anything to add, Dr.

Joe, about this special offer? Joe: I think there’s a lot of content there, and there’s also some how‐tos. This is a time in history

when people don’t just want to know. They want to know how, and I think there’s a lot of how‐tos that will connect a lot of dots for people.

Jennifer: Yeah, and it’s really nice when you can dig in and have both that lovely combination of

information and then dive into the how‐tos and the techniques. This is chockfull of that. That’s at:

specials.healingwiththemasters.com/joe Now, I’ve got a final question for you, Dr. Joe. You talk in your book — and this may be too

long of a question, but we kind of covered it, I think, a little bit. You talk about to change is to be greater than your environment, greater than your body and greater even than time. What do you mean by this?

Joe: Well, if you believe in the idea that your thoughts have something to do with your destiny,

that your thoughts really are something that you can use to create the life that you want, then your brain is organized to reflect everything you know in your life. Your brain is a record of the environment, places you’ve lived at different times, the people you know, the things you own, the things you can do, behaviors you demonstrate.

Your brain is organized to reflect your environment. So if you wake up in the morning and you

get out of bed and you go to work and you see the same people and you do the same things and you go to the same places and you re‐experience the same events that produce the same emotions, then it’s the external environment that’s turning on different circuits in your brain to cause you to think equal to everything that you know.


As long as you think equal to everything that’s familiar and known to you, you’ll keep creating more of the same in your life. So to change, then, is to think greater conditions in your life. Every great person in history understood this, whether it was William Wallace or Mahatma Gandhi or Joan of Arc or Martin Luther King. They all had a vision or a dream that was bigger than them, and it was beyond their senses. Can’t see it, can’t smell it, can’t taste it, can’t feel it, but to them, it was alive in their minds.

So the question is can we believe in a future that we can’t see or experience with our senses

yet? We’ve thought about it enough times in our mind, and our brain is literally changed to look like the event has happened. Neuroscience says it’s possible.

Can we emotionally embrace a future potential that already exists in the quantum field and

begin to emotionally signal our body into believing that future event has already happened to such a degree that we begin to signal new genes in new ways and our body begins to change by thought alone, ahead of the actual event?

Now, if our brain and body are physically changed to look like the event has already happened,

physically changed, then the event has already happened. That’s when we begin to allow the event to find us. So changing greater than the environment means we have to begin to no longer be seduced by our senses. We have to live in a reality beyond our senses.

To be greater than our body — we talked about thinking and feeling and feeling and thinking

in the same cycle. That redundancy of that cycle conditions the body to become the mind. So to be changed, then, is to think greater than the body, think greater than how we feel, to think greater than our addictions.

To think greater than time means that we can predict some future based on the past as long as

we’re trying to predict the known based on what we’ve already experienced. There’s no room for the unknown, so finding the sweet spot of the present moment begins to allow us to tap into possibilities that really exist beyond the predictable, in the unknown.

Jennifer: Wow. It’s really great. I’m glad that we did ask that question to finish the show, because what

you just shared with us, from a knowledge perspective, is what we experienced in the meditation.

Joe: I hope so. Jennifer: Yes, definitely. It was really cool. So now we have a working understanding of what happened

to us in aggregate. I’m a big believer that, when a group of us come together in large numbers, as we are on the show, and do those kinds of things together, that we really are creating an impact on, I think, the matrix of the planet that also affects all of us.

Joe: And it’s really unique, too, that we — in order for us to have any control over our

environment, to have any control over our body or dominion over healing our body or changing our body or any dominion over changing some line of time, the first thing we have to do is we have to forget about our body. We have to forget about our environment, and we have to forget about time in order to have control over them.


Jennifer: Right. So don’t go with what the senses are telling you. Go with what you’re feeling and knowing in that new place of knowing, right?

Joe: Exactly. Knowing is the key. Jennifer: Knowing is the key. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Joe, for finishing off Healing With The

Masters with a flourish. Joe: Thank you. Jennifer: It was a perfect, perfect combination of knowledge and the heart. I’m so glad that it worked

out that you became our final speaker. It’s been a joy and a pleasure to have you, and thank you so very much.

Again, everyone, it’s: specials.healingwiththemasters.com/joe The phrase that pays tonight is the energy of the choice is greater than the addiction. Thank

you so much, Dr. Joe Dispenza, for joining us tonight. Joe: Thank you, Jennifer. It was a pleasure. Jennifer: And thank you all so very much for being part of today’s show. We also just want to remind

you that we have encore week coming up next week, so please mark that in your calendars, the next two Tuesdays and Thursdays where we’ll be doing some Q and A calls with some of the top speakers of the series.

It seems we always come to these calls as individuals, and we always end up a united

community, united in our intention, as we are tonight. We know we make the difference. We matter. You all matter. I love you all so very much, and until next time, good night, everyone.

[End of Discussion]


Volume 9 | March 6, 2012 – June 7, 2012

McLeanMasterWorks.com

HealingWithTheMasters.com

MasterWorksHealing.com

BigBookOfYouBlog.com

Host

Jennifer McLean

Dr. Joe Dispenza | Featured Guest | June 7, 2012

Author of Evolve Your Brain Featured International Speaker Scientist DrJoeDispenza.com

Joe Dispenza, D.C., the author of Evolve Your Brain, studied biochemistry at Rutgers University. He also holds a Bachelor of Science degree with an emphasis in neuroscience, and earned his Doctor of Chiropractic from Life University in Atlanta, Georgia. He has received postgraduate training and continuing education in neurology, neuroscience, brain function and chemistry, cellular biology, memory formation, and aging and longevity. One of the scientists, researchers, and teachers featured in the award‐winning film What the BLEEP Do We Know!?, and soon to be released film The People vs. The State of Illusion. Dr. Joe has lectured on six continents, educating people about the functions of the human brain. He has taught thousands how to reprogram their thinking through scientifically proven neurophysiological principles.

www.mcleanmasterworks.com


www.masterworkshealing.com

www.bigbookofyoublog.com

www.drjoedispenza.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/joe-dispenza/


Volume 9 | March 6, 2012 – June 9, 2012

McLeanMasterWorks.com

HealingWithTheMasters.com

MasterWorksHealing.com

BigBookOfYouBlog.com

Host

Jennifer McLean

Guest Speakers | Further Information

March 6, 2012

Chris Cade

Martial Arts Champion Spiritual Healer and Teacher ChrisCade.com

March 8, 2012

Marisa Russo

Renowned Teacher Author, Speaker and Healer MarisaRusso.com

March 13, 2012

Colin Tipping

Internationally Known Speaker Radical Forgiveness Healer RadicalForgiveness.com

March 15, 2012

Jennifer McLean

Internationally Acclaimed Entrepreneur Author and Creator of The Body Dialog System of Healing McLeanMasterWorks.com

March 20, 2012

Donna Eden

One Of The World’s Most Joyous and Authoritative Spokespersons for Energy Medicine InnerSource.net



www.masterworkshealing.com

www.bigbookofyoublog.com

www.chriscade.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/chris-cade/

www.marisarusso.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/marisa-russo/

www.radicalforgiveness.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/colin-tipping/


www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/jennifer-mclean/

www.innersource.net

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/donna-eden/


Healing With the Masters: Volume 9 | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d)

March 22, 2012

Jo Dunning

"The Miracle Worker" World Renowned Spiritual Teacher Author and Master of Energy JoDunning.com

March 27, 2012

Sonia Choquette

International Bestselling Hay House Author Spiritual Teacher Distinguished Intuitive Advisor SoniaChoquette.com

March 29, 2012

Noah St. John

“The Accelerated Results Guy” Bestselling Author Inventor of Afformations® NoahStJohn.com

April 3, 2012

Susann Taylor Shier

Dynamic and Gifted Author Teacher Intuitive Counselor SoulMastery.net

April 4, 2012

Jon Griffin

Awakening the soul through music. How has sound transformed you? JonGriffin.com

www.jodunning.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/jo-dunning/

www.soniachoquette.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/sonia-choquette/

www.noahstjohn.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/noah-st-john/

www.soulmastery.net

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/susann-taylor-shier/

www.jon-griffin.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/jon-griffin/



April 5, 2012

Gregg Braden

New York Times Bestselling Author Scientific‐Spiritualty Pioneer GreggBraden.com

April 10, 2012

Wayne Dyer

Internationally Renowned Self‐Development Author and Speaker DrWayneDyer.com

April 12, 2012

Mark Romero

Artist Sound Vibration Healer Personal‐Development Coach MarkRomeroMusic.com

April 17, 2012

David Neagle

World‐Class Speaker Leading Authority on Personal Mastery DavidNeagle.com

April 19, 2012

Wayne Dyer

Internationally Renowned Self‐Development Author and Speaker DrWayneDyer.com

Live Q&A

www.greggbraden.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/gregg-braden/

www.drwaynedyer.com

www.drwaynedyer.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/wayne-dyer/

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/wayne-dyer/

www.markromeromusic.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/mark-romero/

www.davidneagle.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/david-neagle/



April 24, 2012

Drunvalo Melchizedek

World Renowned Author and Speaker Drunvalo.net

April 25, 2012

Mary Allen

Healing Coach For People From All Backgrounds LifeCoachMary.com

April 26, 2012

Isha Judd

International Speaker Ambassador for Peace IshaJudd.com

May 1, 2012

Rikka Zimmerman

Spreading the seeds of Consciousness around the world. “Life comes to me with ease, joy and glory!” RikkaZimmerman.com

May 3, 2012

Sarah McLean

Hay House Author, Teacher, and The New Face of Mainstream Meditation SedonaMeditation.com

www.drunvalo.net

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/drunvalo-melchizedek/

www.lifecoachmary.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/mary-allen/

www.ishajudd.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/isha-judd/

www.rikkazimmerman.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/rikka-zimmerman/

www.sedonameditation.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/sarah-mclean/



May 8, 2012

Denise Linn

Internationally Respected Healer, Writer and Teacher DeniseLinn.com

May 9, 2012

Elizabeth Jones

Astrologer Extraordinaire Gifted Intuitive ‐ Revealing the Nature of Powerful 2012 Transitions AstrologyofLight.com

May 10, 2012

Panache Desai

Inspirational Visionary Contemporary Spiritual Master PanacheDesai.com

May 15, 2012

Carol Look

Internationally Known Author Energy Practitioner Success and Abundance Coach AttractingAbundance.com

May 17, 2012

Jim Kwik

Expert on speed‐reading, memory improvement, and accelerated learning for over 18 years. JimKwik.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/panache-desai/

www.attractingabundance.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/carol-look/

www.jimkwik.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/jimkwik/

www.deniselinn.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/denise-lnn/

www.astrologyoflight.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/elizabeth-jones/

www.panachedesai.com



May 22, 2012

Neale Donald Walsch

Internationally Recognized Spiritual Messenger Best Selling Author of the Conversations With God book series NealeDonaldWalsch.com

May 23, 2012

Emmanuel Dagher

Human Transformation Specialist Holistic Health Practitioner and Teacher MagnifiedManifesting.com

May 24, 2012

Laurie Reyon

Internationally Known Interspecies Communicator and Soul Healer LaurieReyon.com

May 29, 2012

Mary A. Hall

Recognized & Profound Healer Popular Abundance Coach Author and Speaker MaryAHall.com

May 31, 2012

William Linville

Instrument of the Universal and Creator Consciousness – Here to Assist You WilliamLinville.com

www.nealedonaldwalsch.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/neale-donald-walsch/

www.magnifiedmanisfesting.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/emmanuel-dagher/

www.lauriereyon.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/laurie-reyon/

www.maryahall.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/mary-hall/

www.williamlinville.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/william-linville/



June 5, 2012

Christie Marie Sheldon

Author Intuitive Life Coach Transformation Expert LoveorAbove.com

June 7, 2012

Dr. Joe Dispenza

Author of Evolve Your Brain Featured International Speaker Scientist DrJoeDispenza.com

Conversation Transcription Specialists Electronic Publishing | Broadcast & Mass Media | Marketing Research Business Communications | Closed Captioning PremierTranscription.com [email protected]

www.loveorabove.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/christie-marie-sheldon/

www.drjoedispenza.com

www.healingwiththemasters.com/v9/joe-dispenza/



HWTM v9-32 Joe Dispenza 06-07-12 - Jennifer McLean's ...€¦ · Jennifer McLean’s Healing With...

Documents

Transcript of HWTM v9-32 Joe Dispenza 06-07-12 - Jennifer McLean's ...€¦ · Jennifer McLean’s Healing With...