HOWARD H. HAYS PRESIDENT

FRED A. NOBLE GENERAL MANAGER

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GLACIER PARK. MONTANA

• L . il . Hill: July 6, 1929 Ralph Budd:

• m. P. Kenney:

er since the question of secobdary transporta-tion as ntloncd several eak a o. I vo had in mind the preparation of a memorandum in expositio of the rate structure 01' the Glacior Park Transport Co. toget.lier 11th some comparisons Ith and comments on similar transportation fares and operating

conditions in other N tiona! Parks, both American and Canadian. Perhaps this should hay been prepared long ago. Frankly. it dId not occur to me th t any of you o££icers regarded the Glacier Transport fares as too high. I most fcertainly ant to c rry you three gentlemen along Ith , 1n an~ and all of the vital matters hieh concern my company, and surell none is so vital as the

matter or rates . From you, ho ara frequently on the defensive .in the matter of freight rat.es and/ passenger fares, I count on a sympathotic understanding of tho seriousness d tb \vhich I am compelled to regard any question hlch strikes at our rate structure . Just as the power to fix rates carries 11th it the po er to destroy, to a carc6l~ les de ree, in a National Park, the disposition to attack ratqs carries ith it a menace of disturbing possibIlIties. /

Frequontly, since e,oming among you. I h ve found r. Kenney fight my b ttles. A conspIcuous ease w s the rat hearin6 Q'l; Iton on our: ppllcatlon to give service ()ver the Belton-nlac1.er Park hlshwny. Both Mr. Hill and Mr. Budd have, to my notion, one out , of their lay to demonstrate toward me a friendly and cooperative spirit. Your kIndnesses are deep­ly appreciil. ted by o~ h.o !"lnd himself after t 1enty years of companionship n another park d 11th other rail~ays. starting life ane , so to peak, in a tr e park nd rail environmont. Accordincly, it occurred to me that I 0 ed you a duty to ex­plain, somewhat ~ detaIl, tho Glacier Park Transport Company rate problem 1n the expectatIon that your frIendly affiees ould stand me jn ood stead U', and hen any outsiders might

criticise the present or ruture r tes of t 1s company.

First, may I set do principal tour • in five of t he Canadian ational Parks.

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ZION, BR'YCE ON AND GRA1ID CANYON UATI l~L PARKS

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Tour 81 Cedar City to Z10n National Park & return - 116 miles Transportat1.on rate •.••••••••••••••••• $15 . 00 5 meals and 1 led 1ng •••••••••••••••• 7 . ?5

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Tour #5 Standard Tour or Z~on Bat10nal Park. Bryce Canyon National Park and Grand canyon atlonal Park - 458 miles 4J.lransportat1on r te ................... 65. 00

-14 al 4 lodg1~s .................... 24. 50 ~§.SO

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Brew tel' Transport COg?any - Canadian P citic RY~ Concessionaire .

tor Detour Between Banff nnd Go1den via Lake - Louise and Emerald Lam

Transportation ••••••••••••••• -18.50 Meals & lodging costs not g1ven (I paid 12. 00 per day in 1928)

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General Dr! e • Transportation ••••••••••••••• Lake Louise

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'YELLOWSTONE lJATIONAL PARK

Yel1cms t on Park Tr_ansportat1on Cow.pant

Standard 4it days tour f'r om all gat" 78 . Mileage varies greatly viz: In Gardiner, out Gardiner

" - ost Yellowstone out Fie t Ye~1Q1fstone ff Cody out Cody tt Gall attn Gateway. out Gall.at1.n Gateway

(also nmnorous co b1nat1.ons in one gateway, out another)

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Transportation ••••••••••••••• 25 . 00 ..

Note: Bur11ngton Ra1lway and lwaukee Ry. pa t e Yello stone Park Trans p ortatlon Co. a sudsldy for extra transportation service perto ed on above tours account extra mileage , outside park I1m1ts. It 1s understood the subsidy 1s as £ollOW8J

Between Cody and East Park boundary one w8l 2 . 25 n Gallatin Gatew y &: . P rk bndy ff f 4. 00

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Fall River Road & h~gh drive 100p trip Transportation ........................ "" 'Ii' 6 . 00

Stand rd Tour nver to Estes Park, Grand Lake Ladge, Idaho Springs & return to Denver

Transportation ••••••••••••••••••••• 25 . 00 -

Grand Lake Lodge

Mea~s &: led 1ng 2 in a room ithont b -tn. ................ ,. .••. e, ........... __ • 6 . 00

eals & lodgings 1 in a room d.thout ba"th •• ' •••••.••• ' ••••• ' •• - •••• ' •• '. • • .• • • •• 7 .. 00 2 days all e.x~nse tour ••••••••••••• 33 . 00 :5 n " fJ ' fl ....... ; •••••• 39. 00 4 fl n fJ ••••••••••••• 45.00

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Glacier . Park Trans£<?rt Oonm.anr Glaeier Park to Two Medic-ine & return

Transportat1QP ••••••••••••••••••••• 3 . 50 GlacIer Park to Many GJ.s.c1&r & retu.~ ·

Transportatlon~ ••••••••••••••••••• 15.00 GlaCier 'Park to t1any Glao1e.r, Prine of ~ales & ret1l.rn

Transportation ••••••••••••••••••••• 28. 00

A11 eX£8n "8 t,ours

Tour #2 - Two days Rate including launch & auto transportat1on meals & lOdgings ......... ;0 ...... ......... .33 . '75 Tour 14 - Four days - t a parks Rnte meluding launch &, auto transportation 'meal &: lodgings ..... ... . " ..................... 63. 25

(Note rate for above ~our ineludes room with bath at Prince o.f Wales)

Tour 1413 - Four d YB Gl.acler Park Rate including 1aunch & auto transportatIon, meals & loa.glngs ....................... 45. 25

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This tour 1s designed to a.ttract transcontinental trav~l and wl~l compare with th1) Glacier Park Stat:1on via "Going-to-sun Chateau" (new hotel) to Belton via Logan Pass whop the tra.namountaill road 1s completed.

This popular Bre star tour carries probably 40,,000 pers4ns annually at $18.50 per person for the 142 mile trlp~ This compares with the $15.00 charge 1n Glacier for the 110 mile round trip between Glacier ParkStat10n and MaI1¥ Glacier. Also compare the Banff General Dr! va of 22 milal.:t at ,3 .. 00 per P$.ssenger with the Glacier Park ... T o :.edicine drive, ' 24 miles at $S.50 per pas. senget-'. and the Bant'f-Lake Louj.se run, 42. miles at $5.00- per passenge~'w1th the one way trip between Glacier Park and Many Glaoier" 55 m1:1;~~ at $7.50 per pa-ssenger.

These oomparisons dJ-not begin to te11 the story. The Brewater Company 1$ carrying somewhere between four and eignt times as much bus~ess as the Glacier Park Transport Co~ with a morc simplified system of' tours F and with little' extra ovel'head for general expense. On the General Drive in the vicin­ity ()-t Banff, at 3.00~ Bre ste~ pro'bab~y c:.l1'Ties ten timee a many tares as we carry on the Two f4edJ.cine run at $3.50. Mr. Brewster'told me that the run between Banff and Lake Lou1se -42 zn1.les, rate $5~OO, as ' a e;ol.d mine and played a big part 1n susta1n1~ ot~.er less renumeratlve services. In additiQn to the above $5~oo rate. they also charge 25¢ for each piece ot hand baggage and transport same by separate truck: "his little element shows a profIt of 100 per dayl

I asked Mr. Brewster 1n Banff last August how man-y persons he carried annually in all of his operations in the vicinity of Banff. He said he did not know as many persons took several trip , but that he had sold ' a total of about 200.000 tickets in 192~~ We.ot course. have to a muoh smaller desree the same duplication here when passengers buy - (a) tickets f'rom Gl.ac1er Park to Two Medicine and return; (b) tickets from Glacier Park to Many- Glacier and return and t h en; {c} go over to Be~tan and take a trlp~

I believe it will be apparent to any student 0.1' the Canad1.an Pacific situation that their sucoess in attract1.ng travel 1s not based on cut rates either for ' transportat1on or hotels. Considering tho volume of business. Brewster's rates are far higher than _ O'lU'1J. and the Canadian Pacific Hotel rates average twice the Glacier Park Rotel rates. (My ' lodging rate at Banff In l'928 was $32.00 per day .for Mrs Hays, m:yself and two small bo-ye. This lodging rate as only average).

(Please note that the Bre ster Transport Company pays a comm1,ssion of 10,% to e.J.l tour1st agencies l.

There are some lower .fares in the Brewster tariff, bUt the-y are in the class of tours which shOYI little volume and con­sequentlyat:fect their gross revenue very- littl.e. I refer you, for example" to the rates from Waterton Lakes to Banff: $1.4.00

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The Woolworth Company has 3.000 stores in 3. 000 communities , and even dares t{) curry 1 ts OYln fire insurance. but all our egge are in one basket. .

Mr . walter \Jhite, President of tho Vh.1te Motor Co • . , one of my ear~y backers in Ye.lloVlstone, believed and so represented to the Interi.or D~partment that a business of the nature of' the YellovJstono Park Camps Co. as entitled to an annual return of' at lea.st 20% on invested capita1. Insofar as the Glacier Park Transport Company is concerned suCh a ret rn is h~othet1cal . This company has been able to earn only bet een 10% and 12%, and this return i~ so delicately pOised tl~t it eaaily mieht drop on the de£icdt side of the fence by the occurrence of any untoward incidelt . MoreOVer, as f~ as lean judge, something ~1ke a law of diniin1shing returns seems to have set 1n~ If' the expenses keep mounting, eIther the rates must incroase or the volume of travel must be increased, if the qual1ty of service is to be maintained. If' something can be orked out to secure more June tra.vel, It w121 .he1p keep the bus company and the Rotel CompllllY out of the red ink.

Since I took over this property the ratio of net profit to gross ll'tCO:me lu,ls shPUl:lk to a markdd d.egree . r ishall list: some ot the apparent caus s:

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fe now carry higher l imits on our liabilIty insurance than in former years . This means higher premiUDl8.

The Canadian operation to date is not renurneratlve. It has resulted in a multiplicity of fees to the Dominion and Alberta Governments ~ the retention of an attorney in Lethbridge. ,and other addod costs . l.!oroover. the addition of the Canadian tour has caused many touriste to cut out Trro 'edieine, 'which is one of our most profitable trips . In 1928 our Tl0 Medicine travel was 2918 round trips; in 1921 it had been 4, 293 round trips .

A de 1uxe tourL1'lS ear investment which does not pa7 adeqUa '0 returns on t ~e investment . The average mileage for touring cars last yoar was 2 , 858 les per ear - a l arge part of' it made up of deadhead trips of our OVln off.'icers and v1siting rallrC)ad &xecutives . This department must be carried by more relllUlloratlve departments. .

Less revenue annually on the Jest s.ide ope:ratlon~ Leuis Hotel 1s attract1n less and less rail travel and the Lake McDone.ld boat tra.ffic h[',s almost anished~ · . (This ought to be kept in mind when

pl.a.mll.n to book large train parties for R few hours stop nt Belton. If e have to ship cars and drivers, it kills all the profit and often takes needed cars away from the East side. )

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Mr. L . W' Hill:

As has been our custom eac h ~ummer we now are giving considerabl e attention to the fishing feature of Glacier National .Pa rk. Please note atta ched illust rated feature story as carried in the Sportsman 1 s Digest of Cincinnati .

Th is story a lso appears in the August Field & Stream, lead ing outdoor publica­tion of the United St ates; besides being used widely thro ~l ghout the country in newspaper syn­dicates.

e shall send along to you a copy of the August Field & Stream within a day or so .

Yours faithfully ,

Hoke Smith.

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The Solid-Red

IT is the purpose of this department to air helpful and reliable news of fishing in all its sporting phases; therefore, I

feel that the subj ect of certain colors of artificial lures should be reckoned with at times. It so happens :that an incident oc­curred on the Kokoshon River (The Owl), of Knox county, Ohio, the latter part of April, that caught the fancy of the Fishing Editor:

Three of us had gone .to the beautiful bass stream for a day's 'bait casting with wooden plugs. This is one of the most picturesque and interesting bass rivers that I ever fished in Ohio. It comes rushing down through high cliffs of sandstone, hung with hemlock and cedar and shaggy maple, for a number of miles below the little city of Millwood. One swift riffle and rapids occurs after another, and among the tum­bled boulders of the shore and the shelv­ing, flat rocks of the river's bed lurk the finest red-eyed small-mouth I have ever found in the state. This is essentially a bass fishing river. Many fine small-mouth are taken every season from its eddy pools with fly and fly rod and with the light bait casting rod and reel and wooden bass lures. So it was our intention to do a little experimenting on the stream this day in April. The bass season was in and quite a number of good fish had been taken from various lakes and rivers, but I had heard of none coming from this particular river.

I was using two types of wooden bait that day, the white-bodied Bass-Oreno with a red head and a small Perch-Finish, Pal 0' Mine wooden minnow of 3~-inch length.

, This gave me a good range of color, I believed. The weather was chilly, with -gusts of fine rain starting to slant down through the timber and across the pools. The sky was overcast all morning and .the water was high, cold and just a trifle off clear color.

My friends were using other types and colorings of bait. Lester was using a Shanllon Spinner w,ith white and red buck­tail covering a single hook and a white and red head wooden plug of another make which I cannot now recall. John, the third one of the party, decided to use a solid­red colored Bass-Oreno plug, regular size. He had never taken bass with this lure before. So we started working the river.

At noon we had the following results:

Color Bass Lester had not even raised a I had not seen a bass. And John had hooked

fine golden-sided one or two more that he had done it all on a wooden bait ( the taken the bass off shallow water and from deep pools where theve were big rocks lying on the bottom with crevices between them.

Then the rain came in earnest and it stormed hard all the balance of that day. The ,following morning, John and I tried it. The sky had cleared and bright sun­shine flooded the pools with amber shafts of light, revealing them down almost to their bottom. John continued to use the solid red plug he had caught his bass with the day before, while I decided on the white body and red head, as before. I worked a large number of riffle pools and swift water eddies along rocks, and did not have a rise. So I at last changed to a perch-finish Pal 0' Mine of small size, with a swift wig­gling movement to it, and cast over deep, rocky-bottomed pools altogether. I had a two-pound bronze-back small-mouth bass in no time, and another slightly smaller one hooked that broke away on a short rise close to the rod tip. I had one more rose beside this that failed to get the plug in time to hook. John caught a larger bronze­back than I had with the old red-colored wooden plug, in the same pool where I hooked my two-pounder with the green and yellow perch finish lure. That made three hooked and landed bass for my friend on the solid-red plug to 01U' on all the other colorings we had used in two mornings' work in bad bass weather. The water the second morning was slightly more dis­colored than the first morning, but the I1ght was strong and bright and the stream, queer as it might seem, was a little lower in stage, owing to it having run down some during ,the night. So, summing it all up, I find that the solid-red color in the wooden plug is a killing one or ,bass. I have known solid black to be good bass lure in wooden baits for the t weather when the fish are laying very I off the rocky bars and under logs and r crev-ices, but I believe the solid-red .,folored plug is every bit as effective, and l~ot see where ,the change of light and ater color has so much to do with things.

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Rocky Mountain Trout Real A rctic Spawners, United States

Ranger's D iscovery Reveals

G LACIER PARK, MONT.- rk rangers in Glacier National Park are

~J1U'~K1Ul1> because one of their number "put 0'"' " on the Bureau of FiSheries. The

Fisheries people would be right in 999 times out of 1,000, but this happened to be the thousandth time.

NATIONAL PARK RANGER O. N. PAGE WITH OF TROUT HE CAUGHT TB1IOUGH THE ICE

IN LOGGlNG'LAKE.

Ranger G. N. Page, of the Logging Lake Di.strict, the last three years had reported that trout in Logging Lake were spawning in February. Supt. Eakin, Glacier Na­tional Park, promptly forwar<led this in­formation to ,the Bureau of Fisheries, which organization courteously replied that trout in the Northern Rockies spawned much later. Perhaps, to themselves, they said, "Applesauce I"

When the usual report came in this year, Supt. Thompson, of the Bozeman hatch­eries, decIded to ,investigate "this wild state­ment." To russurprise, his operative confirmed that trout in this lake spawned in· February in water 36y.;' degrees Fahren­heit. It had hitherto been thought that

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Arrangements are being made to take spawn next Feibruary and revelations are expected of this ea.rly spawning of trout. Rearing ponds will be built and trout over three inches in length will be liberated in the fall before the freeze-up. More than 50% of them will mature instea.d of the very small percentage of trout that mature if planted as small fry.

The Fly-Rod Surf-Oreno

Last summer I used a small fly-rod bass bait that gave very good results on the clt:'ar, eddying pools of the Tuscarawas River. It is a small pattern of the famous Surf-Oreno, which all anglers who have cast for the fighting muskellunge are so familiar with, and the pattern I used was the white body with red and green decora­tions, known as Style No. 96IW, a very attractive color I have found for small­mouth ~nd green bass when they are lurk­ing over rocky Ibottoms at the edge of the river weeds in <the morning and evening hours. Tlhis little plug is light enough to be very ea.sily cast with a No. 20 South Bend fly rod, which weighs 5y,( ounces in the 9-foot length. This rod is intended for the heavier type of fly-rod lures, there­fore I would warn the fly-fi sherman for bass who attempts using this little lure to not attempt it with the exceedingly light fly rod for best results. There is a spinner on both the £.ront and rear of the Fly-Rod Surf-Oreno and it is nicely armed with two sets of double hooks of light size. It is a very fine little bait for bass and rock­bass along weedy fringes, over shallow rocky pools and at the foot of rimes where there are eddies of (lhree and four-foot depths, also at the edge of lily pads and stumps or drifts. The South Bend Bait Company manufactures this lure.

The Pflueger "Supreme" Reel For many years I had heard of this

famed fishing reel, then I had an oppor­tunity of using one of them as my own in the summer of 1927. This reel is ex­tremely light for its carrying capacity of line and one of the fines.t and most reliable bait casting reels I <have ever aottached to a rod. It is a light-running reel, with level-

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