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HowSmallofaFree-SpaceSettlementCanPeopleBeHappyLivingIn?AlGlobus,SanJoseStateUniversityTomMarotta,FAAOfficeofCommercialSpaceTransportationFebruary2017©CopyrightAlGlobus2017Preprint
AbstractWehaveconductedaninternetsurveyof1,075subjectstoshedlightontheirviewsaboutthedesirabilityoflivinginasmallspacesettlementinorbitclosetotheEarth.ThisismotivatedbystudiessuggestingthatearlyspacesettlementscanbesignificantlysmallerthanpreviouslybelievedandlocatedveryclosetoEarth,makingconstruction,occupation,andoperationvastlyeasiertoexecute.Theprimarygoalofthesurveywastodeterminehowsmall,bothinlandareaandpopulation,asettlementcouldbeandstillattractasizeablenumberofpotentialsettlers.Roughly6%ofallrespondentssaidtheycouldbehappylivinginaspacesettlementnobiggerthanalargecruiseshipwithnomorethan500peopleandtheywouldbewillingtodevoteatleast75%oftheirwealthtobeabletolivepermanentlyinorbit.Whilethisisasmallfractionofthesubjectssurveyed,whenexpandedtoallspaceenthusiastsworld-wideitshouldbemorethanenoughtopopulateanumberofsmallsettlements.
IntroductionWhatistheminimumsizeofafree-spacesettlement?Untilrecentlyitwasbelievedthatsizewasdeterminedbytherotationrateneededtosupply1gofpseudo-gravityatthehull.Thehighestratebelievedacceptablewas2rpmashigherrateswouldmakesettlerssick.Thiswouldrequireadiameterofatleast450m.However,anextensivestudyoftheliterature[Globus2017b]hasshownthatpeoplewillrapidlyadapttorotationratesofatleast4rpm,and6rpmmayevenbeacceptable,correspondingtoadiameterof112and50mrespectively.However,itisunclearthatpeoplewouldbewillingtoliveinsuchasmallsettlement.
Inthe1970’sPrincetonprofessorGerardO’Neillproposedbuildingsatellitesbigenoughtolivein(kilometerscale),initiallypositionedattheEarth-MoonL5pointtohaveaccesstolunarmaterials[Johnson1975][O’Neill1977].Mostofthematerials(99%+)wereneededforradiationshielding.Totalmassofthesesystemswasmeasuredinmillionsoftons.Duetotheenormoussizeoftheprojectanditsdistantlocation(380,000kmfromEarth)thesesettlementswereneverbuilt.However,recentstudiesdiscoveredthataregionofspacecalledEquatorialLowEarthOrbit(ELEO)directlyabovetheequatorhasrelativelylittleradiation.Indeed,belowabout500kmradiationlevelsaresufficientlylowthatlittleornoshieldingisnecessary[Globus2016].Noshieldingcombinedwithahigherrotationrate(e.g.,4rpm)meansthatsettlementscanbeunder10ktons,avastlyeasier-to-buildpropositionduetothesmallsizeandmoreaccessiblelocation[Globus2017a].
However,althoughthesmallsizeandconvenientlocationmakesforeasierconstructionandoperations,itisnotclearthatsuchsettlementswouldbeabletoattractsettlers,particularlyasthetechnicallyqualifiedindividualsneededtooperateagiganticsatelliteare,forthemostpart,accustomedtolivinginlargecitiesorsuburbs,nottinysettlementsofperhaps500orsopeople.Ontheotherhand,theproximityofELEOtoEarthmaybeattractiveto
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manyasfullintegrationintotheEarth’scommunicationsystemispossibleandunhappysettlerscouldreturntoEarthinafewhourstraveltime.
Weconductedaninternetsurveytogaugeopiniononthismatterandtothrowlightontheminimumsizesettlementthatmightbeacceptable.Wefirstexaminethemethodsused,followedbysomediscussionandresults.Therearefourappendiceswiththedetailedresults,includingalltheanswerstotheopen-endedquestions.
MethodAninternetsurveywasconstructedandmadeavailabletothepublicfrom8January2016to17June2016.Wereceived1,075responsesinthatperiod.TheQualtricssurveysoftwareatSanJoseStateUniversitywasused.TheauthoremailedtheURLtoabout500peopleonhisspaceemaillist,postedonFacebookandsentittoanumberofspacerelatedorganizations.AllcontactswereaskedtofurtherdistributetheURL.Astheprimaryauthorisawell-knownadvocateoffree-spacesettlement,thedistributionofrespondentsisinnowayrepresentativeofthegeneralpopulationbutis,rather,heavilyskewedtowardsspaceenthusiasts(95%ofrespondentssaidtheywerespaceenthusiasts).
Thereweresixclosed(multiplechoice)questions,twoopenquestions(text)andsixclosedquestionsabouttherespondentsthemselves.Thesixclosedquestionswere:
1. WouldyouliketolivepermanentlyinKalpanaTwo1,includingperhapsraisingyourkids?2. IfyouweretomovetoKalpanaTwohowlongdoyouthinkyouwouldliketostay?3. HowmuchdoyouwanttoliveinKalpanaTwo?4. HowmuchofyourwealthandfutureincomewouldyoubewillingtospendtoliveinKalpanaTwo?5. Whatisthesmallestnumberofpeopleyoucouldbehappylivingwithinaspacesettlement?6. Whatisthesmallestphysicalsizeofaspacesettlementyoucouldbehappylivingin?
Thequestionsregardingtherespondentswere:
1. Optional:Doyouconsideryourselfaspaceenthusiast?2. Optional:AreyouamemberofaspaceadvocacyorganizationsuchastheNSS,SFF,orPlanetarySociety?3. Optional:Howoldareyou?4. Optional:Wheredoyoulive?5. Optional:Areyoumaleorfemale?6. Optional:Whatisyourapproximateincome(peryear)?
Theopen-endedquestionswere:
1. WhataspectsoflivinginKalpanaTwoaremostattractivetoyou?2. WhataspectsoflivinginKalpanaTwoareleastattractivetoyou?
1KalpanaTwoisacylindricalspacesettlementdesign100mindiameterand100minlength.Itrotatesat4rpmtoprovideabout1gpseudo-gravityatthehull.Itisdescribedintheintroductiontothesurvey(seebelow).
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Thecompleteresultscanbefoundintheappendices:
1. AppendixAhasintroductoryremarksandimages.2. AppendixBhasthefullresultsoftheclose-endedquestions.3. AppendixChasthedataonthepeoplewhoresponded.4. AppendixDhastheanswerstotheopen-endedquestionsexactlyasentered.Thisisquitelong.
Notethatthequestionnumberingisoutoforder.Inthesurveytheorderwas:introduction,close-endedquestions,open-endedquestions,respondentsquestions.
95%ofrespondentswereself-describedspaceenthusiastsand81%weremale.70%werefromNorthAmericaand20%fromEurope.Thisisnotsurprisingastheauthorsmadenoattempttoselectarandomsampleofanyparticulargroup,butrathertosimplydistributethesurveyaswidelyaswecould.
ResultsandDiscussionAtleast30%ofallrespondentssaidtheyagreewithatleastoneof:
1. Theywouldliketolivepermanentlyinaspacesettlement.2. Asettlementnogreaterthanthesizeofalargecruiseshipisenough.3. Nomorethan500peopleisenough.4. Theywouldbewillingtodevoteatleast75%oftheirwealthtomovein.
However,only6%acceptedallfouroftheseconditions.Thatonlysixpercentofrespondentswerewillingtosaytheycouldliveinanexpensive,small,closesettlementisnotsurprising.Livinginspaceisnotasmallstep.Fortunately,astheglobalpopulationisoversevenbillionandmanyarespaceenthusiasts,sixpercentofthetotalpopulationofspaceenthusiastsislikelyaratherlargenumberofpeople,certainlymorethanenoughtofillupquiteafew500personsettlements.Itisalsoencouragingthatonly8%ofrespondentsflatlyrejectedlivinginKalpanaTwo.Evensomenon-spaceenthusiastswereopentobeingconvincedtomoveonboard.
Interestingly,femalesrespondedonlyalittlelessenthusiasticallythanmales,perhapsbecause80%identifiedas‘spaceenthusiasts’asopposedto97%ofthemales.
Ourconcernsabouttechnicallycapablepeoplebeingwillingtoliveinasmallsettlementmaynotbewarranted.63%ofrespondentssaidtheycouldlivewith1,000orlesspeopleand69%saidtheycouldliveonasettlementnolargerthanthesizeofasmallcollegecampus.62%saidtheycouldacceptbothconditions.
Almosthalfofrespondentsmadelessthan$50K/yearandonlythreemorethan$500,000.Allofthesethreewereveryenthusiasticandchecked“Icannotwaittogo.”Twowerewillingtopay“EverythingI’vegot.”Theydidwantalargerpopulation,checking“501to1,000,”“1,001to5,000,”and“Morethan10,000”forpopulationsize.Nonesaidtheywouldbehappyonacruiseshipsizedsettlement.Interestingly,noneofthementeredanythingfortheopen-endedquestions.Theattitudesofthewealthyareimportantbecauseevenwiththemostoptimisticscenariostraveltoandfromasettlementcouldeasilycost$100,000ormoreperperson2.Thecostoftransportingthematerialsforconstructionusingthesameoptimisticscenariowouldlikelybeover$1millionperresident[Globus2017a].
2ThemostoptimisticfuturecostprojectionbyasuccessfulspacelaunchcompanyisthattheSpaceXInterplanetaryTransportationSystem(ITS)couldmeetitscostgoalof$200,000perpersonfromEarthtoMars.Thefirstlegofthis
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Whenrespondingtotheopen-endedquestionaboutwhatisattractiveaboutlivinginspacethemostcommonremarkwassimplythatitwas“inspace,”notanyparticularcharacteristicoflivinginspace.Thiswasmentionedbyaround375ofthe1,075respondents.Thissuggeststhatsimplytheideaoflivinginspaceisapowerfulmotivator.Therewerealsoanumberofrespondentsthatlikedtheideaoflivinginasmall,tight-knitcommunity.The‘leastattractive’questiondrewmanyresponsesincludingseparationfromfamily,smallsize,highcostoftraveltoandfromthesettlement,anddanger.
ConclusionAsmallfraction(6%)ofspaceenthusiastssaytheyareinterestedinlivingintheequivalentofa100mdiameter50mlengthsettlement(largecruiseshipsize)sharingwitharound500peopleinaloworbitaroundtheEarth.Thisisprobablyenoughtofillanumberofearlysettlements.Thisisgoodnewsforearlyspacesettlements:thefirstonescanbeamere500kmawayandhaveamasslessthan20timesthatoftheInternationalSpaceStation(ISS).Thus,buildingthefirstspacesettlementisnotnecessarilyamassiveprojectwithgargantuanup-frontcosts,butratheradifficultalbeittractableengineeringproblemwithlargeupfrontcosts.
AcknowledgementsThankstoJudyTippettandDavidBrandt-Erichsenforeditingthispaper.
References [Globus 2017a] Globus, Al, Stephen Covey, and Daniel Faber. “Space Settlement: An Easier Way,” February 2017. http://space.alglobus.net/papers/Easy.pdf. [Globus 2017 b] Globus, Al, and Theodore Hall. “Space Settlement Population Rotation Tolerance,” January 2017. http://space.alglobus.net/papers/RotationPaper.pdf. [Globus2016]Globus, Al, and Joe Strout. “Orbital Space Settlement Radiation Shielding,” December 2016. http://space.alglobus.net/papers/RadiationPaper.pdf.
[Johnson1975]Johnson,Richard,andCharlesHolbrow.“SpaceSettlements:ADesignStudy.”NASA,1975.http://space.alglobus.net/75SummerStudy/Design.html.
[O’Neill1977]O’Neill,GerardK.SpaceResourcesandSpaceSettlements-NASASP-428.NASA,1977.http://space.alglobus.net/spaceres/index.html.
AppendixA:IntroductionThisintroductionwasshowntoeachrespondentwhentheyclickedonthesurveyURL.NotethattheimagesareofKalpanaTwo,a100mdiameter100mlengthcylindricalsettlementlocatedinELEO.Thesettlementintheimagesisabouttwicethelengthoftheequivalentlivingareaofaverylargecruiseship,thesizethatover30%ofrespondentssaytheycouldbehappylivingin.Hereistheintroductionaspresentedtoresponders.
transportationsystemisfromEarthtoLowEarthOrbitandweassumethatitwillbehalfthecostofthewholetrip,whichisprobablyconservative.
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Space Settlement Survey In a few decades you might be able to buy an apartment in space. Recent groundbreaking research indicates it is much easier than previously thought to build space settlements in orbit very close to Earth. Intrigued? You can help. Please read the description of the proposed space settlement, named Kalpana Two, answer eight required survey questions, then click on the >> button at the end. This usually takes less than ten minutes. Your responses will help inform the design of early space settlements. Thank you in advance for your participation. Kalpana Two The Kalpana Two design is a cylinder 110 meters (120 yards) in diameter and 110 meters in length. Total living area is about the same as three of the world's largest cruise ships lashed together. It will have a population of 500-1,000 residents and guests. Kalpana Two is designed to orbit about 500 kilometers (310 miles) above the Earth’s equator, where space radiation levels are particularly low. Residents will have spectacular views of Earth. People will be able to travel to and from Earth in a few hours, although it will be quite expensive, perhaps hundreds of thousands of dollars. However, Kalpana Two is close enough for full integration into Earth's economy and communication systems, including the internet and interactive video calls. Kalpana Two will have Earth-normal artificial gravity on the inside of the hull and zero-gravity in the middle, where you can literally fly. Space walks outside the settlement may also be popular. There will be plenty of work in Kalpana Two. Keeping it running will require a great deal of recycling and repair. The benefit, however, is that the residents would have unprecedented control over their lifestyles: who will join the community, what food is grown, how the settlement will be governed and even what the weather will be. Here are images from Bryan Versteeg's artistic concept of Kalpana Two to give you a feel for living there. The survey questions are after the images.
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AppendixB:ClosedQuestionsandAnswers
Q2-WouldyouliketolivepermanentlyinKalpanaTwo,includingperhapsraisingyourkids?
Answer % Count
Notachance. 8.31% 88
Icouldpossiblybeconvinced. 16.81% 178
Iwouldseriouslyconsiderit. 25.31% 268
IthinkIwouldliketo. 15.68% 166
Countmein. 33.90% 359
Total 100% 1059
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Q4-IfyouweretomovetoKalpanaTwohowlongdoyouthinkyouwouldliketostay?
Answer % Count
Notonesecond. 2.27% 24
Afewmonths 14.85% 157
Oneyear. 20.06% 212
Fiveyears. 26.11% 276
Therestofmylife. 36.71% 388
Total 100% 1057
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Q15-HowmuchdoyouwanttoliveinKalpanaTwo?
Answer % Count
Notatall. 5.96% 63
Somewhat. 13.15% 139
Itwouldbenice. 25.17% 266
Alot. 27.34% 289
Icannotwaittogo. 28.38% 300
Total 100% 1057
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Q3-HowmuchofyourwealthandfutureincomewouldyoubewillingtospendtoliveinKalpanaTwo?
Answer % Count
Notapenny. 10.31% 108
25%ofmywealth. 30.06% 315
50%ofmywealth. 26.05% 273
75%ofmywealth. 14.03% 147
EverythingI'vegot. 19.56% 205
Total 100% 1048
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Q5-Whatisthesmallestnumberofpeopleyoucouldbehappylivingwithinaspacesettlement?
Answer % Count
Morethan10,000. 7.98% 84
5,001to10,000. 10.74% 113
1,001to5,000. 18.25% 192
501to1,000. 26.62% 280
1to500. 36.41% 383
Total 100% 1052
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Q6-Whatisthesmallestphysicalsizeofaspacesettlementyoucouldbehappylivingin?
Answer % Count
City. 12.06% 127
Suburbantown. 18.71% 197
Smallcollegecampus. 38.18% 402
Cruiseship. 21.08% 222
Footballfield. 9.97% 105
Total 100% 1053
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AppendixC:RespondentsThissectionliststhequestionsandanswerstothequestionsconcerningthenatureoftherespondents.Allareexplicitlytaggedasoptional.
Q11-Optional:doyouconsideryourselfaspaceenthusiast?
Answer % Count
Yes. 94.47% 990
No. 5.53% 58
Total 100% 1048
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Q16-Optional:AreyouamemberofaspaceadvocacyorganizationsuchastheNSS,SFF,orPlanetarySociety?
Answer % Count
Yes. 40.33% 415
No. 59.67% 614
Total 100% 1029
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Q7-Optional:howoldareyou?
Answer % Count
Under18. 6.13% 64
18to25. 14.27% 149
25to45. 36.40% 380
45to65. 32.66% 341
Over65. 10.54% 110
Total 100% 1044
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Q8-Optional:wheredoyoulive?
Answer % Count
Africa. 0.29% 3
Asia. 6.04% 63
Europe. 18.70% 195
NorthAmerica. 70.37% 734
SouthAmerica. 1.05% 11
AustraliaorOceania. 3.55% 37
Total 100% 1043
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Q9-Optional:areyoumaleorfemale?
Answer % Count
Male. 80.94% 828
Female. 19.06% 195
Total 100% 1023
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Q10-Optional:whatisyourapproximateincome(peryear)?
Answer % Count
under$50,000. 47.96% 459
$50,000to$100,000. 31.35% 300
$100,001to$250,000. 17.35% 166
$250,001to$500,000. 3.03% 29
morethan$500,000. 0.31% 3
Total 100% 957
AppendixD:ResponsestoOpenEndedQuestions
Q12-WhataspectsoflivinginKalpanaTwoaremostattractivetoyou?
Safe.Clean.Pioneer.
Beautifulviews,lifestyle.
Ytopia
Helpingtofigureouttheengineeringchallengesforlargercoloniesandgenerationships.
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Beinginspace.
Ihavealwayswantedtogotospace.ThiswouldbeanicechangetotheboringusuallifestyleIhave.
Theviews.
ExplorerResearchMakingmylatedaughterproud
Space.Meetingcrazypeoplelikemyself.Also,asaphysicist,Iwantoworkonbuildingthesethings.
Beinginorbit
Greentech.DecidingwhatIdoandwhen.Removalfromearthb.s.
It'sinspace!
Beinginspacewithspacewalksandviewofearth.
Sustainableliving,communitybuilding,andaidinginlearningfromanddevelopingfuturetechnologies
Zerogravity,space
Contributingtotheadvancementofscienceandtechnology,
ViewsofEarth,lowradiationandstillintegratedwithEarthsocialization.
Beautifulview,thechancetomakeadifferenceforthefutureofhumans
Theviews,theexperience,thecuttingedgenatureoftheenvironment,whatitwouldmeanforthefutureofhumanity,thelikemindednessandpassionoftheotherpeopleintheenvrionment
Quickturnaroundonideas,change,etc
Samplingfreedomfromgravityformorethanjustaminuteorsoandtheinitialview.
Preparationformovingontothenextfrontier
Zerogravityrecreationalactivities.
Beingpioneersforthehumanrace,loveofspaceandscience,theexperienceofalifetime,researchingandadvancingtechnologiesOtherthanthebasicsthatIamsureeveryonealreadystatedIwoulddoitbecause;Tosurvivewemusteventuallyleavethisplanet,Iwouldliketobeapartoftheteamthathelpusmakethattransition,theuniformslookscool.
Theresearchopportunities.
Noveltyandadventure
thechancetobepartofhistory.thechancetohelpwritethenextchapterinhumanity'sstory.
Acontrolledenvironment
Adventure
Thatitsinspace.
Healthierlivingconditions.Somecontrolovermyprivatelife.
HolisticEnvironmentCapabilities,RecyclingcapabilityofAllthepossibleResouces,GreatcareforInnovation&DesigncentredfuturecitiesDevelopmentestheticsandmoreimportantvalueandcareforalltheresidents
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zeroorlowgravity
Senseofcommunity,pioneering
ThestrucutreandthesenseofadventureI´dgetfromlivingonspace.
1.)Gravityvariationoptionsforrecreationalpurposes.2.)I'dbelivinginspace!3.)Thewholeexperience.
AlthoughIwouldn'tliketolivetheremyself,Ifindideaslikethisfascinating,andverymuchliketheideaofrapturingupasmanyterrestialoccupantsaspossible.I'vebeenreadingsci-fifor63yearsanddoingmusic,mycologyandcomputermodelingfor60,40and30yearsrespectively-andliketheabsurdityofanaccordioninzero-g-alongwithselectivegravityzonesformyvintagebones.
It'sinspace!
Zerogravityarea.
Adventure.Progressionofhumanknowledge.Community.
Gettingoff-planetanddoingsomethinguntried.
It'sacoolidea.
Ibelievethistypeofrotatingspacestationisrealisticallydoableandwouldverymuchliketoseeitsconstructioninmylifetime.
Selfsustainingenvironment,study,researchonhealth,community,interfaithunderstandingandcreativity.
Abravenewworld
Notreallyanythingformepersonallyexcepttoadmireasanoutsideobserver
IseeitasanEarthlingtownfloatinginspace,therefore,thesamethingsthatattractmetoliveonEarth.
Beingapioneer,novelty,beingamongforward-thinkingindividuals.
controlofatmosphereandfood-sothatitishealthy
Theopportunitytobepartofspacecolonizationandexperimentsrelatedtospacestationlife.
Seperstionfromtheproblemsofearth
Beinginspace.
It'suniqueandinteresting
It'sinspace.
nothing
Beinginspace!
Space
None
Zerogravityandspacewalks
Theideaoflivinginspace.Theuniquenessandtherapidexpandingofhumanintellect!
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Livinginlowgravityspace!
Allpeoplearechosenorhavechosentolivethereoutofmotivationandtogainpersonalexperience,alotofpeoplewillhavethesameinterestsandmentality.TherewillalsobealotlesscrimethanonEarth,consideringtherewouldbenoneedforthat.
Beingabletogotothecenterwherethereisnogravityandflying,
ChrisJannettehere.I'drelocatetheSpaceSettlementAlliance/TREDLabsthereandhaveatrainingfacilitythatwouldconstantlybedoingshuttlerunstonewlocationsusingKP2asalaunchpoint.
AwayfromEarth&noise,traffic,etc.Forstudies,research,mediationissues,
adventure
LivinginaspacesettlementthatiscloseenoughtobefullyintegratedwithEarth'seconomy.That,andtheview!
LowenergycostaccesstotravelintheInnersolarsystem.
Helpinghumanitycreatethefirstcolonyinspacewiththehopeofcreatingmoreandmoreastimewentby.
ProgressinghumansettlementinspaceandpotentiallyMars
Unique,canexperienceweightlessnessdependingwhereyouareat.
Thedifferenceofall.
Probably,theviewsofEarthandit'sapartnessfromourworld.
Thenewplaceforlife-theSpace.
Livinginspace
1.Theabilitytoexpandeasily2.Convenienceofresources3.Controlledweather
CleanOpenenvironment,hightechnologylivingaplacetolivenottovisit.
Maybeoneofthereasonsisthatwewillbewherespaceradiationlevelsareparticularlylow.Andithinkthathumanityshouldtakerisks,becauseweshouldexplorethespaceandseewhichisthebestprotectedplaceforus,ourkidsandetc.
It'sinspace.
Tohelpmankindbecomeaspacefaringspecies.
Notathing
highstrangeness.
beinginspace
itsinfreakin'space
Theabilitytobeinaself-governing,selfsustainingcommunitywhereeveryoneworkstogether.AlsoIthinkitrepresentsabigleapforwardthatIwouldliketobeapartof.
beinginouterspace
Beinginspace
Placestoexerciseandenjoynature
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Beingthere!
Thehistoricalaspect,aswellasthepotentialofspacewalks.
Takingpartinapioneeringeffortthatcouldhelpshapefuturehumanactivitiesinspace.
ArtificialGravity,Nottootoughtoinhabit
ViewsofEarth,customisationofthelivingspace,smallcommunity.
theview
Novelty,butthatwearsoff.WhynotdiscussWHYwewouldwanttogoupthereinthefirstplace.Mostofusdon'tmovesomewhereunlesswehaveareason(job).Bepartofcuttingedgeenvironmentleadingtohumanexplorationofspace.Iliveandworkwellinconfinedorwelldefinedareas.
LivinginspaceWorkinginspaceTheviewfromanyviewinggallery
Itisinspace.
Actuallybeinginspace.
Exoticsetting,state-of-the-arttech,friendlyandtolerantcommunity(IFthatcanbeachieved).
Beinginspace.Experiencingzerogravity.Meetingnewpeople
Theview
Thenovelty.
Locationinspace.Choiceofgravitylevel.Progressintothefuture.
Tohavetheexperienceoflivinginspacewouldbeamazing;thefreedomofbeingabletohelpestablishapossiblegoverningsystem,andbeapartofthispioneerinspacetechnology.Theviewsoftheearthandthechancetoworkonviewsofthegalaxy.PerhapsevenbeingabletoworkonthebuildingofshipsfortraveltoMars,moon,ortheasteroids.
Livinginspaceandseeingearthfromthere,havingtheoptionofspacewalksandzerogravity.
Smallcommunitywherewewould/couldhaveselfdetermination.
Unlimitedfreedomtocontrolmylife.
Theview
Theadventureofit.
Helpingmankindfulfillhis/herdestinyinthegalaxy.
Youcanchangelandscapeandlivingmodulesmoreeasily
Variablegravity,viewoftheearth,sun,moon,stars
Itmayactuallybeadoableidea.
Theinvolvementinthefutureofspacesettlementsandthepossibilityofresetlinginthemoon,marsorsomeotherplacethatcouldbepossiblyterraformed.
IwantedtobeanastronautwhenIwasakid.Itjustneverhappened.
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theadventure
Theview,thenovelty,andthechallenge.
Lingandworkingonaanewfrontier
Achancetostartover,Ibelievethisistheultimatereasonforourexistence.Planetearthcannotcontinuetosupporthumanhabitationasitis.It'sjustamatteroftimebeforewetotallyoutgrowourplanet.
chanceforlonger,moreproductivelifegivenmymutation(IBMPFD)
gravity
Helpingtobringhumanity'sdreamof"AdAstra"intoreality.Beingonthe"bleedingedge"oftechnology,theview,andtheadventureofmakingSpaceExploitationreal!
Workingwithleadingedgetechnology.
Beingapioneer,butnottofarawayincaseanythinggoeswrong.
ViewsofEarth,Excitementofspacepioneering,micro-gravityrecreationarea
Controlledlowsmogatmosphereforeasybreathability,andreadyaccesstolowdistortionviewsofspace,Luna,andTerra.
Livinginspace
Beinginspace!!
GettingoffthisEarth!IhavebeenwaitingsincetheApolloeartogetintospace.WeshouldhavebeenonMarsby1980andsincewearenot,Iwillnotwaitforthegovernmentanylonger.IfIgetthecash,I'mgoneandIhopetonevercomeback!
Theadvancmentofscienceandengineeringneededtobuildandmaintaintheenvironment.
Aviewofspace
Nothing
Aenvironmentwithreadyaccesstospace,Earthnormaltofree-fallgravityenvironments,thepotentialforanextraordinarycommunityofpeopletobecreatingnewrealwealthastheeconomicsphereofhumanitygrows,agreatplaceavoidretirementandmaintainahighqualityoflife.
Havinggoodandpleasentearthlikeatmosphere.
ThechancetoliveandworkwithotherpeoplewhoareinterestedindemonstratinghowmankindcanliveandworkinSpace.
Theclosed-loopsystem
You'reinspace!
Decidingmyownlifestyle,easymovementwithinthecentralcavity,lotsofopportunitiesforresearchandwork.
Innovation,eco-house
Zerogexperience.Beinga"pioneer"
Themixofspectacularstellarviewsandbeautifulgreenery.Alsotheideaofatight-knitcommunityisalsoveryattractivetome.
Theextraordinaryfactofwhatitis:ahabitatinspace-whataplacetobe!
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Greenspace.Plants
walkingandseeing,withit'suniquedesign
Thenature.Theimpressionthatthepicturesgavetomewereoffreedom.ItwouldfeelasbeingonEarth.
theuniquenessoftheenvironmentandbeingapartofhumanachievementinspaceexploration/colonization.
livingandworkinginspace.Thisconceptcouldleadtoafuturedesignforavoyagetoanotherstarsystemwhichwouldspanseveralgenerations.
Theview.
Anewandinterestingplacetolive.
Alwaysdreamedofleavingearth,experiencingweightlessnessasarecreation,theideaofasmalltownfeelinasciencefictionhabitatisappealing.
Independencefromterrestrialgovernments
BeingabletoseeEarthandspace,zerogravity,andtheprogressionofthehumanrace.
Theideathatonecancontroltheweatherandlivingenvironment.Thefactthatmostorallofthepeoplelivingtherewillbetherebecausetheywanttobe,notbecausetheyfeelthere'refewtonoalternatives.Theprospectofbeingabletoparticipateinchoosingtheformofgovernment.
Zerog,otheropportunities
Justabouteverythingabouttheconceptintriguesme.IfIhadtonameafew,I'dsaythetechnicaleducationthatmosteveryonewouldhavetohavetolivethere(asanengineeringstudentitbugsmethatmostpeopledon'thaveevenabasicgraspofthetechnologytheyarecompletelyrelianton),theviews(bothinside&out)wouldnodoubtbespectacular,&theideaofconstructinglittleislandworldshasalwaysfascinatedme.Imean,howincredibleisthatthatweknowhowtodothat?!Wemaynothavethefinancesorinfrastructureinplace,butweknowhowtodoit.Ithinkit'sthedestinyofourspeciestoone-daybeworldbuilders.Endlessresearchpossibilities,amazingviews,newexplorations,meetinglike-mindedpeople,andbeingapartofanewageforhumanity.
Theadventureandcuttingedgetechnology.
Itsinspace
Spaaaaace
nopollution
Livevegetation,artificialgravity,spacewalks
Wecanliterallyfly
Plantlife
Livinginspace-Ifeelthatissomethingthatmakesmefeelamazing.
Theadventure,peoplelivinginspace
Thelocationandoverallnoveltyoftheexperience.
Promotefuturedrivenpolitics,produceexperimentsinspace,socialresearchinspace,spacetourism.
Tolivelikenomanhaslivedbefore,doresearchandseehowhumanscanevolveinouterspaceandresearchopportunities.
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Petsbeingallowedtocome
LivinginLEO!
Controlled,consistentclimateandmeaningfulwork
Futureprospectsformeinlifeishealthadventureandmeaning.GeraldkO'NeilvisonofexpandingwithoutfoulingtheworldwidenestinwhichweliveSpace.Thefeelingofadvancinghumanunderstandingandpushingtheboundariesofwhatwecanaccomplishasaspecies.
Viewsbacktoearthandtowardsspace.Alsotheinnersurfacemightofferquiteasight.Flying.Yes,theflying.
Totallycontrolledenvironment,welleducatedresidents
Livingandworkinginspace.Tocontributetothefutureoflifeoffearth.Todothehandsonexperimentationthatcomeswithmakingthingsworkwhilethere.essentiallybeingahightechcolonistinoneofthemostdangerousenvironmentsinwhichhumanityhaseversurvived.
Greeneryandcentralzerogravityzone
Gettingawayfromthebrokenpoliticalsystemsthatwearecurrentlygovernedby
SeeingEarthfromSpaceandperhapsbeingtoparticipateactivelyanddirectlyinspaceresearch
Thepeaceandsurviving
Closedselfsustainingartificialecosystemsandlifesciencethatwillbedonethere
Thefreedomofjustlingeringandfocusingontechnologydevelopment
Beinginspace.
IfpundattractiveandinterestthatKalpanaTwowillhaveEarth-normalartificialgravityontheinsideofthehullandzero-gravityinthemiddle,wherewecanliterallyfly.(Relative)isolationfromEarth-boundproblems.Theprospectofabetter-managedsociety.BeingapioneeroftheFinalFrontier.
LivinginSpace
exploringspace,learnaboutlife..whatisit?
Artificialgravity.Isitcausedbyangularmomentum?
Theopportunitytobeapartofhumanitythatexpandsoutwardsintospace.Thecapacitytofarmsustainableonaspacestation.
Researchoportunities
Aidinginthecreationofnewsoftwaretechnologiesforthisenvironmentwouldbeinteresting.Livinginspacewouldbeextremelyinteresting
zerogravity
Tobeinvolvedwithaplatformforfurtherspaceexploration
Choosingfoodandgovernment
Predictableweather,controloverdisease,I'mold--itlookslikeitwouldbeagreatplacetoretire,couldgetplentyofexercise.Tobeabletoflyatthecenter,alaRobertHeinlein(mooncaves)wouldbeamazing.
Aremarkablenextstepforhumanitylivingonthisspacesettlement,openingupthedoorforothersettlements
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fartherawayfromEarth.Themanagementandmaintenanceofsuchasettlementwillpavethewayforpossiblenewtechnologies.Itwillbeanamazingexperienceformychildrenandhopethatitwillopenuptheireyesandmindstothewondersofspaceexploration.Ialsoamattractedtothechallengesanddangersoflivingonsuchasettlement.
Space!Earthnormalgravity.
Controlledecosystem,variablegravitationalforces,beingonthefrontierofcivilizationandscientificdiscovery,possibilityoflivingwiththebestsampleofhumanity.itorbitsaroundearth,theviewalonewouldbeamazing,theideaofbeingrunbythepeopleisnice(thoughitsnotthebestsystem)EveryonehelpstokeepKalpanaworking
Perhapsbeinginthefrontoffuturehumanexpansionintheuniverse
Controlledenvironment
Itwouldbecool!
Obviouslyabigchangeforreconsideringmylifeagainanewstart.
Opportunitytoliveclosetospacematerialsandenergyproductionfacilities.
Beingapioneer
LivingofftheEarth,theviewfromspace,
Theopportunitytoliveandworkinspaceistheprimarydraw.I'mmostattractedtotheideaofparticipatinginthecreationofahumanspacecolonyandhelptoestablishatruepermanentciviliancultureinspace.AconcretephysicalaspectthatIfindattractiveisthechancetohavemicro-gravityasaregularexperience.
Space-livingwithlike-mindedpeople
Theviewwouldbetremendous,providedthatyoucanengineerthe"windows"appropriately.Microgravitycommercialspaceisacriticalelementintheeconomicsofspacesettlements.Tourismisalsoalikelyfactorthoughthecostofflightmustdroptoalevelthatiscompetitivewithhigh-endresorts.
technology,innovation
LivinginSpace,butbeingclosetoEarthisagreattransitionforHumanity.Alsoitprovidesprotectionfromcriminals,terrorists,anddiseases,becausethecommunityiscloselynit,andhasthepowertocontrolwholeaves,andwhoenters.Anewwayoflivingyourlife,literallytheadventureofalifetime.Beingabletoliveoutinspace,whereIdonottechnicallyhavetobeanastronaut.Beingabletohaveaclose-netcommunitythatrealizeoneachother.Spectacularviewsoftheearth/moon/space!
Innovationandtechnology.Theview.
Itsthefuture
ChancetocontributetoamovementwhichspreadshumanityacrosstheSystem.
LivinginspaceAbletochangeourmodesofmovement,towalkandflyduetochangeofgravity
Theideaoflivinginspaceismylifelongdream.
Novelty,recyclingandcaringofresources,futuretechnology
Learning,building,discovering,andevolvingintoahigherlevelofsocial,economic,political,andtechnologicallife-style.Advancinghumanity'smissionofevolution.Helpingdiscovernewtechnologies,andtravelingthroughspace.Honestly,EVERYTHINGaboutitexcitesme.
Thesupportofarobustandcapablespaceinfrastructuretoexpandandimprovetheeconomyandstandardoflife
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forallpeople.Spacetechnologyhasadirectbenefittotechnologysolutionseverywhere.Investinginselfintoasystemasadvancedasthisprojectwoulddemonstrateandprovethefeasibilityandbenefitofsuchefforts.InvestmentintoSpaceinfrastructureisthemostsensiblesolutiontomanyoftheissuescurrentlyfacingthespecies.Ifeelirresponsiblenottosupportsuchendeavors.
Smalltownyetinspace.
CheapelectricityExperienceofbeingontheforefrontofinnovation
Exploringspace
Well,flightinthemiddle,forstarters.Livingandworkinginaspacehabitatwouldbetheendofmydreams.
Tryingsomethingnew,discoveringwhatworksandwhatdoesn't.Workingtosolvethoseissues.
Easyaccesstomicrogravity,freedomfromEarth'senvironmentalwoes,easyaccesstoplanetarytravel.
itwouldbeatestamenttohumaninnovation...andthenextsteptotravelandsettlementsfurtheroutfromEarthorbit
Beinginspace,apartofgroundbreakingwork.
Thefactthatit'sinfreakingspace.
Itsdifferent
Seeingearthfromspace,newfrontierofliving
Likemindedpeople,technology,opportunitytoliveandworkinspace
Beingapartofthefutureofspaceexploration.
Experiencingzerogravity,experimentsforgroundbreakingscience,possibilityofusingitasaplatformforbuildingshipstoexploreotherplanets.
Theviewfromspace.
Exploration,pioneering,andadventure.
Feelingdifferentlevelsofgravityatdifferentdistancesfromthecenter.Aviewofthewholeearth.Livingonthefrontier.
Pioneeringasustainable,replicablemodelforhumanexpansionoutsideofEarth.
Joiningacommunitythatisverysensitivetorecyclingandtakingcareoftheenvironment
It'sinspace!?
Adventure,livingwithlikemindedpeople
None.
Zerog.Theviews.Theadventureoflivinginspace.
Theexperience.Thethoughtofallthememberscontributinganddependingoneachotherequally.
Qualityoflife,mobilityduringadvancedage
Youareinspacewithanopportunityforbusinessandexploration.
None
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Itbeingoffofearth
NewLand
Earth'sview,zero-gfun,butaboveallhelpingtakeourcivilizationtothenextlevel
controlledenvironmentwithoutpolution,worktohelpunderstandanddevelophowsuchlargespacehabitatcanfunction,beinspace,viewofearth,feelspecial
Theweightlessnessatthecenter.
Livinginspace.Advancingthefutureoflivingandexplorationofnewwaystodoit.Beingpartofnewworld.Enjoyingthedifferentaspectsoflivinginthatenvironment.Sharingadreamwithlike-mindedindividuals.Beingoneofthefirstpeopletoliveinspace.Helpingtoshapetechnologies,processes,activities,etc.forfutureresidentsandguests.
Thedaretodreamandpushtheboundariesofthehumansociologicalcondition.
Iwouldshedmyspacecadetstatusandlevelup.
Space
termthethrillofbeinginspace.Longtermhelpingseedhumanityoffearth.
LivinginSpace.StayingabovethelimitsofEarth'satmosphereandproblems.
Selfgoverningandpresumablypolutionfree/greenenvironmentfriendlylifestyle.
Integrationintotheworldcommunicationssystemandeconomy.TheviewsofEarth.Plustheawesomenessoflivingandworkinginspace!
Scientificresearches
Livinginspaceandallthatimplies
Lowergravity-screwthatEarthnormalcrap,gravitysucks.
Pioneeringanewlifestylethatwouldsetthestageforfurtherexpansionintospace.
Theview.Beinginvolvedintheopeningofspaceindustries.
Beingabletoviewtheearthfromspace.
Theviewandit'salwaysbeenadreamofmine
Adventureandlifestyle
Smalltownatmospherewhereeveryoneknowseachother.Mywifeisanalzheimerspatient.Wehavelittleinthewayofasupportstructure.Onechildwhois3,000milesawayandanieceandnephewthatare60milesdistant.Acommunityof1000isexceedinglysmallandwouldbecloseknit.Weliveinagatedcommunityoffourhundredhouses,roughly2,000people.TheviewofEarthandsun(sets)fromspace,andofotherastronomicalobjects.Additionally,theabilitytoplayaroundinzeroG,inthecenterofthecylinderandoutsideofKalpanaTwo.
justtobeinspace
Thenewfrontier
ThebeautifulviewsofEarth,theconceptofasmallbuthigh-techcommunity,contributingtothespaceeconomy/spaceprofit,thesurrealexperienceoflivinginspacewithoutmanyofthehealthissuesthatcomefromzerogravity
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Beingpartofaspaceprogram.
zero-GseetheEarthfromorbithelpcolonizespace
Acontrolledenvironment,hopefullywithastablegovernment/politicalsystemthatrespectspersonalfreedoms.
LivinginmyadolescentdreamenvironmentasdescribedbyHeinlein,AsimovandClarke,amongothers.Iamassumingafree,independent,conservativedemocraticrepublic.actuallyacheivethegoalofleavingEarthorbit,livingandworkinginspace,andpossiblygraduallybecomepartofaninfrastructurethatincludescolonizingthesolarsystem.zerogravityactivities;potentialabilitytoexploreandlearnindetailthephysicalaspectsofthespace;chancetoparticipateinthemanagementofthesociety
Microgravityavailablebut1Gbasic.Theviews.
gettingawayfromEarth
none
LivinginSpace.Beingonthecuttingedgeofspacesettlement.
Thisisanearlyhabitatdesignthatisthemostrealisticofallthedesigns.
Niceview.Easyontheasthma.
FromwhatIhavehearditseamslikeaviablenearselfsustainingcolony.Beingapartofthefirstwaveofspacesettlersappealstomyadventurousside.Alsoitiscloseenoughthatitmaybeeconomicallyfeasibletotaketrips/returntoEarthtovisitpeople(unlikeaMarscolonywhereformostpeopleitwouldbeaonewaytrip-evenifMuskgetshisColonialTransportersscalingeconomically).
Livinginspace,beingapioneerforthenextstepofhumanhistoryandevolution.
lowgravity
zeroGactivities/sports,systemoperationandsustainability,exteriorwalks,earthobservation,observationandparticipationonhowsocialorgwouldwork,alternatesocialorganizations,alternatelivingandpersonalenvironmentsTheviewsoftheearthwouldbebeautifulandinteresting.TheexperienceoflearningtoliveandhelpsustainKalpanaTwowouldbeuniqueinhistory.Itwouldbespecialtobeapioneerinthisendeavor.
Theexperimentitselfisintriguing,butthereareamassofsocialproblemsthatwouldarise.
Itisinspace
Zerogravitysports.
Openspace,clean
It'suniquecylindricaldesignwhichproducesartificialgravity.
Theviewsfromportholes.Novelty.Abraveexperimentinmanysenses.
Thechallengesofrelationallivingwithinaconfinedarea...
pioneering,senseofcommunity
Beingpartofapioneeringcommunity.Beingthefirsttolivepermanentlyinaspacestation.Expandinghumanity'sfootprintpasttheearth.Preservingourculture.
theview..
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Thesocialaspects.
Workingatspacedocoraboardshipover
Theideaofbeinganearlyadopterinhumanity'smigrationtoouterspaceisnothingshortofaholyendeavour.Iwantthetechnologythatisbornfromthisinitiativetonotonlyprovidehomesformillionsinorbit,butalsotoprovidetruesustainablehabitationontheplanetside.Earth'senvironmentwillbenefitfromtheadvancesinmaterialsengineering,pollutionmanagement,resourceutilizationandrecycling,arablesurfaces,andmanyotherdisciplinesneededforaspacecolony.Surfacehabitationofotherworldswillbemadepossibleaswell.
Offplanet
SeeingtheEarthfromsohighup,livinginacolonyawayfromtheissuesoftheplanetbelow
Novelty
Icoulddevotemylifecompletelytoresearchinthemostisolatedplaceavailablewithaswiftinternetconnection.
Participateindevelopingrealspaceculture.InterestinmakingsurethespacefrontierismoreequitablethanpreviousfrontiersIt'llshowthathumancansurvivebeyondtheearth.Alsoit'llbeoneofthebiggestbreakthroughinthehistoryofmankind.IlovealltheaspectsofKalpanatwo.Thisisawesome.AndI'lldowhateverIcandotohelpinthisproject.I'mreadytospendmywholelifeforit.
AviewofEarth
Participatinginaprojecttodevelopthefutureofhumanity,puttingmyknowledgetowardscreatingsomethingawesome.
beingaforerunner/explorerinanewfrontier
Liveinspace.Ihopetogoonmoonbeforedying.
SpacewalksandZeroGravity
Adventure
It'sneverbeendonebefore
Livingwithlikemindedpeopletomaintainacomplexlife-machineforthebenefitofall.
livinginspaceandnotontheearth.somuchtodoupthereandbuildandexplore!aholenewindustrieandandwayoflivingthatwehaveneverseenbeforeawaitsus.therewouldbegreatoportunity.thereisnoreasonthatwecantdothis!cleanairandcleanwaterandknowledgeablepeopleandahightechenvironmentandcontrolledtemperaturefreefromstormsandnaturaldisastersanddiscomfortandlivingwithamoreacademicmindandfinancialsecurityandcloseropportunitiestoexploreandcontacttheunknownNew,unique,futuristic,freefrombadthingsonearth,eg.,neighbours,badroads,extremeweather.Itwouldneedtobefreefrompoliticalandreligiousextremism.
Cleanairandfood,nowarsoranyviolencebecausenoweaponswouldbeallowedinsideKalpanaTwo.
Findingoutnewsolutionstobeingabletocreatesustainablelifeinspace,advancementofcivilization,alternativecommunity
Возможностьоказатьсявневесомости.
Thebeingindependentpartisreallyexcitingthathowtheplacewillhaveitsowngoverningrulesandthefuturisticpartisalsoexciting
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Mostattractiveaspectwouldbetheideaoflivingonaspacestation
livinginspace,proximitytoearth
Theabilitytoliveinspace
Gravityandgreenspace
Achancetobepartofsomethingnew.
Openspaceswithgreenasopposedtocrampedmetalwalls.
Acommunityofpeoplewithasimilarinterestandgoals.Iwanttobeapartoftheefforttoexpandwhatispossibleforthehumanraceinsustainabilityandimpacttoourhomeplanet.Theideaofcreatingaspacespecifictosupportinghumanlife,andnotreformingearthenlandscapesiswhatIbelieveshouldbeamajorfocusofallcommunities/governments.
Beingapartofacommunity.
Livinginspace
viewsofspaceandearth
KalpanaTwowillhaveEarth-normalartificialgravityontheinsideofthehullandzero-gravityinthemiddle,whereyoucanliterallyfly.Spacewalksoutsidethesettlementmayalsobepopular.
Spacepioneering,testingnewsystems,innovatingnewsystems.
1hrtripfromgroundabove
Theadvancementofspacetechnologyandexploration.
Beingpartofasmall,selectcommunitylivinginspace
FulfillingMan'sDestiny.
Experienceslikenoother:theview,microgravityalongtheaxis.Opportunitieslikenoother:afewkm/stoanywhereincis-lunarspace.
Theview,zerogravity,livinginspace,buildinganewsociety
Helpingtomovehumanityintospace.
Theideaoflivinginasustainable,peacefulsettlementseemslikeagreatchanceatutopia,ifitevercametofruition.
Smallcommunity,soundspeaceful.
Customizability
Thereareseveral:theabilitytobeinalowgravityenvironmentpartofthetime,reducingphysicalstrain;asmalltownatmosphere;theviews;contributingtothesuccessofthecolony.
Beingapartofourfutureinspace..
Thelessonslearnedfromsuchasettlementwouldbedirectlytransferabletohabitatsinotherplaces,whetherinhigherorbitorevenoutsidetheEarth-Moonarea.TheentireareabetweentheorbitsofVenusandMarsisopenforsuchhabitats,andaspopulationgrows(particularlyifpracticalrejuvenationtechnologiesbecomereality)thatspacewillbecomevaluablerealestate.
Zerogravity,theview,thestars,thetechnology,thescience
Self-governance,self-reliance,zeroG,beingthefirstspacecolony
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Any,all.
Internetaccess,meaningfulworkfortheadvancementofsociety.OptionalZero-G.
offplanet,fullgravitypluszerog,science
Beinga"pioneer"inspacecolonization,evenonasmalllevel.
1.TheamazingviewofEarth.2.Spacewalks.3.Controlledpopulationsize.4.ClosetoEarthandyetawayfromthechaosthatdominatestheplanet.5.Theunprecedentedcontrolresidentswillhaveupontheirlifestyle.6.Whataboutvoyagestothemoon?
1hrtripfromgroundabove
ViewsofEarth;havingartificialgravity,butabilitytohavezero-Gexperience;beingpartoftheefforttomovehumansouttosettlespace,includingdevelopmentoftherequiredtechnologies;outdoorenvironmentsimilartoEarth(grass,trees,ponds,etc.);communityexperiencecouldbeenjoyable(likeasmalltown);itwouldbeaveryuniqueexperienceIsolationfromearthproblems,proximitytogreatwealth(asteroidmining,exploration),developmentofselfsustainingecosystems.Beingpartoftheforwardmomentumofhumanity,helpinghumanitylearntoliveinspace,whichwecoulddotilltheendoftheuniverseasopposedtoremainingonEarth,whichwilleventuallyfail.
Beingatthebeginningofhumanity'seventualinterstellartravel.
Futuretechnology
Learninghowtosustainanecosysteminspace.
Startingafreshpartofsociety,viewsofearthandspace,beingthefirsttodoit,workingtheirtokeepitrunning
Space
Exoticlocation
Terrarium
Livingandworkinginspace
Youliterallyliveinspace,that'sthebestofall!
Thefeelingofbeinginspaceitself
Livinginasettlementcomprisedofthemostmoderntechnologies,withthepossiblitytotraveltodestinationsbeyondEarthfromthere.
Insuringhumanpreservation
ThiswouldbelikegettingtovisitRamaformyself.Buteasier.Andours.
Thecylindricaldesignwithartificialgravity
Theideaofopeningupnewfrontiersandplacingabridgeheadfortheconstructionofmoresuchhabitats.Theopportunityofarealdevelopmentofbiospheres.Themoresuchcoloniesexist,betterpossibilitiesofbiologicalcross-fertilizationbetweenthemariseinapathtofutureindependencefromEarth.
Theview,accesstozero-g.
Beingableyocreatealifestylethatwouldsuitemeinwaysthatitcantbeachievedontheearth.Beingascienceenthusiast,Iwouldlovethenewkindofspacebasedexperimentsthatcouldbemadeapartofthissettlement.Thentherearevariablegravityaspectslikegames,sportsandrecreation.Theideaiswholelotexcitingtome.
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PresumablyIwouldbeemployedinajobdirectlyadvancingspacedevelopment.OnceinLEOyou'rehalfwaytoanywhere-theoptionofmovingbeyondEarth/Moonwouldalwaysbethere.
Justbeinginspace,themicrogravityareas,possiblespacewalks,advancinghumanpresenceinspace.
Havingfullgravity.AsanERdoc,mybiggestconcernsforhumankindbecomingatrulyspace-faringinmultiplanetspeciesarethephysiologicaleffectsoflowandmicro-gravity.
Doingsomethingfewothershavedone.
Theabilitytogreatlyimpactmycommunity
Adventure.
Thepotentialforcontinuingthehumanraceinspaceshouldourhomeplanetbecomeuninhabitable.Theabilitytoliveinanenvironmentdesignedtobestsuitsourneeds.
Weightlessness,accesstoorbit.
Beingabletoexperiencezero-g.Growingallofoutownfood,andchoosinghowwewilllive.Anditsinfreakingspace!Howcoolisntthat?!
Experiencinglifeinorbit,viewofearth.
IT'SINSPACE.
Cleancontrolled&incredibleviewofEarth'sbeautyenvironment!DevelopmentofSpace&NODruggies,gangs,leftwingelitists
TheviewsofEarth,controlledweatherenvironment,nowars.
Selfsufficiency
Thepioneeringaspectofsettlementinspace
Simplylivingingianttube...ItremindsmeofgreattimeswithNeuromancerandStarlight.
Tobecomeapioneerofspacenoid.
Thechancetobepartofsomethingcompletelynew.Thewonderfulviews.Havingasignificantsayintherunningofsociety.Hopefullylike-mindedpeople.
Iseeitasathefutureofhumankind...Andi'dlovetobeoneofthepioneers...
Somethingnew,beingabletohavethatviewalongwithspacewalks.Nottomentiontheresearchthatcanbedone.
goinspacedowork
Newcommunity,controloverenvironment,technologicalmarvels
Honestly,Iwouldn'tbewillingtodoitunlessitwasforadefinedscientificmission.Ifthisisaboutrecreationaltravel,Ihaven'tgivenuponEarth,yet.Thatsaid,Iwouldhavetoknowmore.Pure,controlledEnvironment;SpectacularviewsofourlocationintheUniverseandarealsenseofaweandwondereverymomentattheachievmentsofthehumanspecies.
Beingaroundlikemindedpeople,TherangeofdifferentgravityIcouldexperience
Viewofearthfromthere,Cleanenvironment,flyinglikeabirdinspace,andmostlynowar.
Livinginabootstrapshumanspacecolony,establishingpermanentoff-worldcivilisation.
Security
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Livinginspacewithagreatviewonearth
Thefuturisticdesignandamountofgreenvegetation.
Selfsustainingwithjobsto....well,maintaintheoperationrunning
Livinginspace
It'sinspace!
RecreationalFacilitieslikeSpace-Walkandotherspaceorientedgames.
Theviews--ofspaceandEarth.Theopportunitytoliveinandthechallengeofmaintainingmyartificialenvironment.
humansnextstepforevolution.
Creatingapermanentholdinspaceandcreatinganeweconomy
Thevariablegravity,thevariedplantlife,andtheviewofEarth.Myhusbandisalsoaspaceenthusiast;Iassumehe'dwanttocome,ifit'sonlyoneyear.Theincomelevelbelowisforbothofus.Idon'tknowhowmuchhe'dwanttospendon1yearinspace.IwouldvisitandsettingupaplacewhereIcanseespace.Beniceforavisit.Notsureaboutlivingthere.Ilikeopenskies.
greenandrefreshair
TheviewsofEarth,Luna,andthegalaxy,fromorbit.TheoptiontohavefunandgamesinLow/ergravity.
Adventureandmeetinguniquepeople.
Being"outdoors."
Spaceexploration
Helpingbringthedreamsofsciencefictionfansandspaceenthusiaststofruition.
It'sinspace!Ihavealwayswantedtogotospace.Plusthesimulatedgravitywithmicrogravitysoundsamazing.
Howitwillbeinorbit,thepinnacleoftechnologyonceitisoperational,thecontrolresidentswillhave,andofcoursetheview!
SpaceExplorationanddevelopment,goingonspacewalks,
Thepossibilitytoexplorespacebeyondthestation
IwanttogetoffRockofOrigin.
ImpressionofTotalcontrol
Becauseitwouldimplythefirstseriousstepinspaceexploration.IlovetheconceptofRama.
GrassandtreesinsideKalpanaandhavingawindowtoviewoutsideofKalpana.
Itwouldbeafirststepintocolonizingspace.
Theviews.Thepossibilityoftryingweightlessness.Beingpartofexpandingthescopeofhumanhabitation.
Space.EverythingSpace.AndtheEngineeringaspects.I'mamechanicalengineeringstudentwholives,loves,breathes,anddaydreamsofallthingsrelatedtospaceandspacetechnologyandengineering.SoI'dbehappytodedicatemyentirelifetothemaintenance,research,andfurtherdevelopmentofaspacesettlement.
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Pioneeringthefuture.
I'vealwaysfelttheneedtoliveinspace.It'swherewewillsurviveformanymoregenerationsthanwewouldonEarth.
All!
Beingabletofulfilmydreamoflivinginspace.
Theexperienceofseeingtheearth,space,thesenseoffreedomfromthetiesoflivingonourplanet
HighpopulationdensitywithlargeopenWideopengreenspaces.
Livinginspace.Experiencingrotationalgravity.Tryingsomethingground-breaking.Learninghowtomakeitwork.
Livingandworkinginspace.Easyaccesstospaceforresearchandextraterrestrialtravel.
Thechancetoexplorespaceandbepartofmovinghumanityforward.
Opportunitytoserveasaconstructionbasefordeepspacesettlementandexploration.
Roomy,beautiful,potentialforzerogravitybasedactivitiesinstationcore.
Livingandworkinginspace.
TheideaoflivingawayfromEarth,butalsotheideathatIwouldhaveameasurablecontributiontomyneighbors.
ThenovelseriesRingworldbyLarryNiven.
Theopportunitytobeginbuildinganoff-planetcivilizationTheopportunitytoexploretheuniversefromoutsidetheatmosphere
It'sunique!
Thefactthatit'sinspaceandpresentsopportunitiesforunprecedentedtechnologicaladvancements.
Theopportunitytocontributetohumanityandscience.
Iwouldviewlivingthereasanadventure,avacation.Itwouldbeinterestingalsotoseehowmanymonthsitwouldtakebeforeitfeltlikehome.I'minterestedinphysicalaspectssuchasexperiencingrotationalgravity,flyingintheair,viewingspaceandEarthanddoingnearbyspacewalks.
Gettinghumansoffearth
Microgravity
Spaceandadventure
Freeenergy
spacestationwheelbig10,00012,000peopleliving.
Offearth
Space.
Thescienceofitall.
Theabilitytoliveonaspacestationandthenewhobbiesthatwillbeinvented.Plustheprospectofbeingapioneerisneveranegative.
BeingpartofaplantohelpexpandlifefromthebiosphereofEarthoutintospace.
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It'sspace
TheaspectthatKalpanaTwowouldbeitsowncommunity.IthinkIwouldlovethesmalltownaspectwhereIknoweveryoneandeveryoneknowsme.Iwouldalsolovehavingtheaccesstozerogravityandspacewalks.
Utopiabydesign.Common/complimentaryinterests,healthylifestyle,nature,
Havingaccesstospacetodesignanddevelopotherspacestations.
I'dliketheuniqueexperienceoflivinginanenvironmentunlikeanyonearth,andmaybeevencontributingtothedevelopmentofprocesseswhichcouldbeappliedashumanitymovesfurtherawayfromourhomeplanet.
Thedifferentlifestyle.
LivinginspaceisextremelycoolandsomethingIdidn'tthinkwouldeverbediscussedthisseriouslyinmylifetime.Thestuffoffilms!Havingalternativelong-terminsuranceforcontinuityofthehumanspecies;lowgravityasachoiceforelders;justlikeinnovation.Beingapartofaspacecityjustsoundslikefun,anadventure,andinteresting.Thereasonsanyonewouldgowouldn'tbemuchdifferentthananyonewhowantedachancetogoupinthespaceshuttleinthe80's.Acitywouldbethissameexperiencetimes100.Ilikethenoveltyofbeinginacontrolledsafeenvironment,andpioneeringanewtypeofsociety.Howwouldthiswork?WhatwouldIdoallday?HowwouldIcontribute?Whatwoulditfeelliketoseetheearthunderneathmeeveryday?Wouldthisfeellikehomeorjustanescape?Whoknows,butwhynottry?Ialsoimaginetherewouldacertainamountoffreedom,educationandcuttingedgetechnologytolearnaboutaswell.IdrelocatemycompanyheadquartersthereandhaveKalpana2asalaunchingpointsincedeltavwouldbeverylow.
Thescaleandgeneraldesignconsiderationsseemfairlywellthoughtout.
Thenotion.IfitwereO'Neillsize,Imightbeinterested.Iunderstandthebudgetisn'tthereforanythingthatbig.
It'sacoolconcept
Beingcreativetoadvancethespeciesandourspacefuture.
It'ssomethingnewanddifferent.Asaspacesettlementresearcher,mainlyspecialisinginMars,itwouldoffermanyopportunitiestolearnaboutspacehabitats,lifesupport,environmentcontrol,humanfactorsandsoon.
TheOpenenvironmentasseeninthepictures,artificialgravityandlivingandworkingwithlikemindedpeople.
IliketheWholeIdeaoflivinginspace,itisthefuture.Whywaitletsmakethefuturehappennow.
EscapingcollectivistgovernmentsonEarthandaccesstothesolarsystem.
Closeenoughtohavereal-timecommunications,accessZero-Gravity,andtheview.
None,personally,I'mahugefanofthenotionofrotatinghabitatsbutIpersonallydon'tevenlikeairtravel:)
Beingpartofhumanity'sexpansionintospace.
TheabilitytoexperimentwiththeconditionoftheecosystemwithouttoomuchrisktotheEarth.
Beingabletoviewtheearthfromspace.Thatalonewouldbeworthboththeriskandanentirelifesavings...Selfsustainabilityisalsoattractive,Iwouldenjoybeingaroundplantsmaintainingfoodgardensandotherresourcestokeepthesettlementalive.
FarfromEarthInternationalcommunity.Nowars?DoorsteptoCosmosInfiniteCosmicexploration
Trees,grass,water,light,temperaturecontrol,radiationcontrol,cleanair,recreation,accesstohealthfulfood,
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waterascleanasfromearth'ssprings,accesstothebestmedicalcare,Icouldgoon…
Spaceview,smallcommunity,tranquility,zero-Gactivities,potentialforbiomedicalresearch,beingpartofsomethingbigger(firstspacecolonisationonarelativelylargescale)
Livingthefuture,lowgravity.
Livinginspace.
Theromanceofthefrontier,thepotentialtohaveinterestingwork.I'mfromasmalltown,andtightcommunitiesaregood.
selfsufficientsociety
Space
Pleasant,secure,cleanenvironment;andaplaceonthenewfrontier.
Externalview,somewheretomaybe'tour'otherplaces-stagingposttoMarsmaybe.
Pioneeringsomethingthatcouldbecomecommonplace,aswellasjusttheideaoflivinginspace!
Theadventure.Thecommunity.
Ilikethepioneeraspecttoit.Ilikesolvingproblemsthathaveneverbeentackledbefore.
Livinginspace!
theideaofbeinginspaceandhavingthatperspectiveonearth+theideaoflivingincollectively
theadventure
It'sdifferent.
nextsteptofullsized
Workingtogetherwithasmallcommunitytomakeendsmeetandbeselfsufficient.
Thesenseofcommunity.Caringforoneanother.Liberty.
Howitispossibletoexperinecesomethingthatseeemstobeunreal
Tryingsomethingnew.Livingdifferentlytohowwehavebecomeaccustomed.StartingtheSpaceRenaissance!Also,asanarboriculturist,seeinghow/ifplantsgrowandadaptinggrowingpracticestosuit.
Nothing!!!SPACEISTERRIFYING!!!!!!
Views
Viewsofspace
Theadventureoflivinginspace;beingoneofthefirsttoblazethepathtosomethingnew.
Theideaofhavinganadditionalplacetoliveandthefactthatsciencehasadvancedthisdramaticallyisattractive.
Theabilitytotravelbetweenearthandspace.Thefirstquestionisnotapplicabletome.Ihaveraisedmykidsandwouldconsiderthisaretirementoption.Dependsonifitisawaypointforfurtherexploration,butifso,thenthatisakeypoint.Theothersaretheabilitytostartoversocietally,maybetakingamoreliberty-basedpath.
Novelty.Adventure.Partoftheultimategrowtheconomy.
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It'sinspace.It'sgoingtothissmallclose-knitcommunitysurvivingtogetherinahostileenvironment.Ithinkthisisgoingtomakeforacollaborativecommunity,sortoflikeacollegecampusorIsrealiKibbutz.Itwillhopefullybethefirstofmany.Thefactthatwecancontrolourlivesisthempstattractive.Itwouldbereallygreattohaveacontrolovertheweathercycle!Onthecontarytowhatwehaveonearth,wherewearelikeslavesinthehandsofnature,inKalpana2wewillhavecontrolovereverything.Soitwouldbereallyagreatexperience.Liveinspace,it'slikeàdream!Alsosharewithotherspeopleswhowilllivethere,becausetheyprobablywouldbespaceenthusiasts.
livingwithotherswhoareatforefrontofspacesettlement
livinginspace
Spacewalks,seeingearthfromabove,self-governingsociety,a"newbeginning"atmosphere.
Theviewandhopefully,healthimprovements..
Thechancetobeapioneerinspacebasedliving.Thechancetoassessandrecommendchangestosuchasettlement,inordertobeina'handson'positiontoofferchanges.
Livinginspace!Activelyparticipatingintheexpansionofhumanityintonewfrontiers.
HavingfunwithflyingisanobviousanswerbutIalsofindtheideaofhavingbothEarth-likeartificialgravityANDzerogravityisjustamazingsincezerogravitywouldbeannoyinginmanysituations.
Space.
Cleanfresh
Notformetooold
Theidea,furtheringhumanpresenceoff-planet.AnyhesitationisfromwonderinghowonehasviewsofEarthfromthishabitat.Ifitrequiresspacewalks,that'sadrawback.Thatthepeoplewhogettolivetherearesophisticatedandnowwhattheyaredoing.(Becauseiftheycanprocessalifeinspaceandpaytodosothenisbecausetheyhaveanopenmindandeducation)Thenewlifestyle,thebenefitsoflivinginspace,itisnecessarytorecycle,itismadesothatwecanadapttoitbecauseitissimilartoearth.
Gaininganewviewonlifeonearth.Differentialingravity.Exploringtheunknown.
Clean,tidy,intimatepublicspace.Implicithighdegreeofcivicamityandcooperation.Easyaccesstomicrogravity.HalfwaytoanywhereintheSolarSystem.
It'slikeascifimovie
Thegreenery,andthelake.Theamountoflight,andopenspaceisveryappealing.
Usingtheinternetandbeingabletocommunicatewithpeopleonearth.Beingclosetoearthandthepossibilityofreturningthere.Thatit'sinspace!I'vealwayswantedtobeanastronaut.Also,Ithinkthatgettinghumanityoffthisplanetandoutintospaceisprobablythemostimportantthingwecanbeworkingonrightnow,andIwouldbethrilledtobeapartofthat.
Thefuturisticaspects.Thebeginningofanewera.
Theviewandtheoptiontoswitchbetweenugand1gatleisure
Besideslivinginspace?Beingabletohelpbuildanewsocietyforeveryone.
Beinginspace!Also,helpingproveitcanbedoneforfuturegenerations.
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Theintellectualevergreeningoftheongoingspacescienceresearchandthoughtleadershipviainteractivecommunicationsplusthevarietyoflocalesforquietreflection,relaxation,exercise,spaceandzero-gravityactivities,regular-gravityactivitiesandcommunity.IfthedesignersandleadersappeartohavegrabbedtheprettypicturepartsofGerardK.O'Neill'sandTheSpaceStudiesInstitute'sdecadesofrealwork..Prettygoesfarincatchingtheeyeand,thankfully,researchhasbeendonetoprovethattheprettypicturesarepossiblerealities.Livinginanisolatedcommunitywiththeunprecedentedpotentialforthecommonmantoinfluencetheconditionsofhisorherlivingandsocial/communityrelationship.Suchisolationcouldbefundamentalfortheprogressionofcreativeandculturaladvancementsotherwisenotpossibleintheestablishednationalnormshereonthesurfaceofearth.
TobeapartoftheinitialpermanentexpansionfohumanitybeyondtheEarth.
Thatisinspace.
Proximitytolike-mindedpeopleandspacerelatedactivitiesandevents.Fail-safeprotectionfromsolarevents.Easierevacuationinanemergency.
weightlowergermandsporesetcsxclusion
developingHumanity'sfutureinspace
Participatingintheproofofconcept.
fullintegrationintoEarth'seconomyandcommunicationsystems,KalpanaTwowillhaveEarth-normalartificialgravityontheinsideofthehullandzero-gravityinthemiddle,whereyoucanliterallyfly.Spacewalksoutsidethesettlementmayalsobepopular.plentyofworkinKalpanaTwo(plspellitastoo).
theview
Theideaofhelpingtodevelophumanexpansionintospace.
I'vealwayswantedtogotospaceandbylivingintheKalpanaTwoi'daccomplishthatdream.
AreaswithlessthanEarthnormalgravityChancetoexpandourknowledge
havinggreeneryaroundmewithoutpollution
1.Zerogravityarea2.Relationbetweenasmallgroupcreatingastrongbondoffamilyandfriendship
Livinginanovelenvironment.
Justtheideaoflivinginspaceisattractiveandexciting.Theprospectofstartinglifeanewinspaceisaveryattractiveidea.Theviews,thevariablegravity(thinkofthesports!)andthechancetobeontheleadingedgeofhumanity'sexpansionintospace.
Flying,beinginspace,abilitytocontroltheenvironment
Frontier
Thehopetosurviveforinstancemankindsdecreaseinworldwideepidemics,nuclearwarandsoon!
Theview
Beeingabletoactuallyliveinspace.
Lookingatearth
It'ssimilartowhatIhavebeenthinkingaboutonmyown.Coincidentthoughtprocessesarealwaysveryattractive.
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niceconditions
Easyaccesstospace,thuseasyasteroidminingand-processing.Fullresponsibilityfortheecospherewithshortimpact-cycles.Lessonstobelearnedformulti-generationshipsorsettlementsonotherplanetsinisolatedhabitats.Forerunneroflargerspacehabitats.
Feelinglikeapioneer,livingwithlikemindedpeople.
Space!
theopportunityoflivinginspace
Spacewalks
Livingindependentlyfromearth.
Theidyllicscenery.Theopenairandearth-skyfeeltotheambience.
Beinginacompletelycontrolledenvironment,wherewecanlivewithoutharmingearth.
Workinginorbit
Zerogravity.Goodlivingconditions.ProximitytoEarth.
Theadventure,excitement,thrillofdiscovery.Formethough,itwouldbeanamazingvacation/learningexperience.
Educationalaspects
TheviewoftheEarthandtobepartofmovingbeyondit.
Spacepioneering
innovation,status,thewholejestsons-live-in-spacething
Beinginspacewouldbeawesome!Beingabletocontrolsomethings,liketheweather.
spacesettlement
Beingabletohaveweekendtripstothezero-gareainthecentreofthestructure.
Pioneering
Nicecleanenvironment,experienceouterspace
ProximityToEarthGreenInnovationAscientificsocietythatindulgesitselfinpromotinghumanlifeacrossthecosmos
zerogravityenviroment
Flying!!!SpaceWalks!!!SeeingEarthfromoutside,EVERYTHING!!!
Thatitsinspacemostly
Thesimulatednaturalbeauty.BiotopeswithcanalswindingthroughthejunglealongwithaTahitianwavetankandbar.
Livinginspacewouldbeawesome!SowouldtheviewofEarth!!
Vacation,sebatical,research,experience(flying,Earthobservation).IwouldwanttoreturntomotherEarth.
Livingintechnicalworld
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Theselfsufficiencyandthepromiseofmoresettlingofspace.
Futuristicandcompact
spacewalks,breathtakingviewsofearth,shuttleridestomoon,growingfoodinspace,0g,
ThephotosarebeautifulandIlovetryingnewthings.Ijustthinkitwouldbesomethingamazing.
Itisthefutureandpossiblestepforward.
Somethingdifferent
Proactiveplanning,lackofcrime,utopiansociety
Livinginspace.
Zerogravityforentertainmentpurposes.ProximitytotheMoonforapotentialfly-byflight.Theworkonthestationmightbemeaningfulandinterestingifitinvolvesmanufacturingandrepairingroboticexplorationandminingships.
Livinginspaceandlivingissomethingverydifferent
Thelocation,beinginorbit.
newexperienceandtheview
Thebiology
Inventingthefuture
zero-Gleisureprospects,perfectclimate/weather
Obviously,theadventureandexcitementoflivinginspaceisattractive.Also,thecommunalandself-sufficientaspectisattractive,asaretheconceptualpictures.
Beinginspace,experiencezerogravity
Livingin/onanotherstructureinspace(onenotesthatEarthisastructureinspace).Pushingtheboundaries.Doingsomethingnew.ClosetoEarth,but"halfway"toanywhereinthesolarsystem.Abenign,controlledenvironment,mucheasiertoliveinthanplanetarysurfacessuchasMoonorMars(butthishasnegativeaspect,pernextremark).
Beingapioneer
It'sinspace
Iwouldliketobeabletohelpbuildacommunity,aplacetoliveandhavealltheabilitytobeapartofsomethinggroundbreakingandinnovative.
Hell,it'sthefinalfrontier(acloseone,butfornowthefinalone;)
ZeroGravityCenter,availablesunshineforgrowingplants.
AspartofKalpanaTwo,thedetailthatpiquesmyinterestthemostisbeingabletocontributeconstantlytotheeverevolvingresearchthatwilloccurthisnew,unique&excitingenvironment.AsI'moneforbeingcomfortablewithdoingnanoresearch,toflightresearch,andevensomehandsonforgeworkIwouldbefinewithworkingforextendedperiodsoftimeinLEO.TheamountsofcareersnecessarytoallowforKalpanatwoareendless,asarethepossibilitiesofworkingacareeronthecolony.Itwouldbecomeafloatingwonderoftheworld,aplacewhereextensivestudyofeffectsofmicro-gravitycanbeobservedinalargepopulationofothercolonists/live-ins.Suchalargepopulationgroupcouldprovidethenecessarydataforsolvingtheissueofhumansinzero-gravityandlongdurationspacetravel.Imaginetheamountofdata.Ifplacedproperly,largetelescopescouldbeplacedonthedarksideofKalpanaTwoforfurtherstudyonpotentialEarth-likeExo-Planetsforfuturegenerationstosendsatellitesor
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evencoloniessimilartoKalpanaTwo.ThefirstTerranSpaceshipPortinthehistoryofmankind,amilestoneforfuturecosmonautstoaspiretobuilduponorreachingradeschoolandwellthroughouttheircollegeyears.LEO-KalpanaTwoUniversity.
controlledweather,peopleself-selectedtolivelikethat-
Beingoneofthefirstpeopleinhistorytopermanentlyliveoff-world.Participating,eveninasmallway,inthescienceandengineeringofitall.
artificialgravity;pioneeringsocialstructurestomanagetowns/societyatthatsmallyetwholescale.
Viewofearth.Subzeroflying.Spacewalks.Tryinganewconceptandseehowitgoes.
Restartingthebrokensocio-politicaldemographicsetwe'regivenwithagroupoflike-mindedpeers.
Itisoffplanet
Theviews,thetrees(andallgreen)
Zerogravityrecreation,weather,amazingviewsofearthandthestars,telescopedeep-skyobjecthunting&stargazing,accesstooursolarsystemlikenoother,botanyopportunities,pollutionfreeair,aslowerlifestyleyetbusyandtrulyrewarding.
offplanet-selectivepopulation
Theviewsandlivinginspaceyetbeinginasomewhatearthlikeenvironment.
Controlledenvironment,selectedpopulation,
IndependencefromtheEarthSphere.Achancetorepriortizeculturearoundmorerealworldvalues.Anopportunitytobeapartoftheverybeginningofthegreateststepofevolutionsincemulticellularlife:leavingthebiosphere.EconomicopportunitiesofbeinginvolvedinorbitalIndustry,spaceminingandresourcedevelopment.
ThegeneraltestofhowcylindershapedlivingspaceinEarthsorbitwouldperformforfuturebuildsofsimilarkind.
BeingpartoftheinitialspreadoflifeoutfromEarth.
Thepossibilitytomoveeasierthennow,theperspectiveofrealizingscientificexperiments,thefillingthatIamanexponentofthemankindandthepossibilitytoexcitemystudentstodothesamething.Aworktolearnandresearchoflivinginthespace.Afunctionallivingsystem,thatincaseofwarordangeronearth,thecrewcansurvive
Liveinspace
Livinginspace,beingfreeoftheEarthandalloftheconflicthere,plusthevulnerabilitytoglobalpandemicsandotherdangerousthreats.
Thesocialexperienceandchallenge.
Refugefromterrestrialoligarchs.
Reducedgravitywhensleepingsincearthritisishardtoignorethenitseems.Maybeputthesleepingquartersonanupperlevel.
Theknowledgethatonewouldbefurtheringhumanity'scolonisationofspace.
Beingapioneerandseeingtheuniverse
Theadventureofit.
Freefallandviewsofearth
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Participatinginthespreadoflieintheuniverse.
Weather,uniquejobopportunity?
Theexcitementoftakingpartinandcontributingtoarevolutionaryexperimentinhumanhabitation.Iamretiredsoliketheprospectsofasafecomfortablehomewithlowgaccessincaseofincreasinginfirmity.
LOWGRAVITYAREAS
Spectacularviews
Itbeingaspacesettlement.
TheviewoftheEarth
Livinginouterspace.
Newexperiencetoliveinanartificialenvironment.Completelyengineeredenvironment.
Theviewwouldbenice.
Theview.Theopportunitytopioneeranewlifestyle.
Space
Nopollution,organicfood,NOGUNSANDPEACE?ifnoneofthatexistwhatistheuseofit?
Startingacommunitynotmakingthesamemistakeswefacenowonearth.
Gardens,farming,landscapes,amusements(astronomicalobservatory,tripstootherspaceships,moonorfaraway,laboratoriumofpractisesforstudients,universitycampus,etc),socialactivitiesforintegrationofeverypeople.
justtryingsomethingnew
Aclean,hopefullycrime-free,safeplacetolive
Ifonespacehabitatcanbeeconomicallybuiltandinhabited,socanmany.Ishouldenjoylifeinaspacehabitatwithclimatecontrolandaccesstomicrogravity,andbuildingmoreandlargertomoveinto.ThisiswhyIchecked'fiveyears':thequestionseemedtobe'wouldIliketoliveinonespacehabitat-andthat'sit-foracertainlengthoftimeortherestofmylife'.Inabiggerhabitat,orbeginninginasmallone,Ishouldliketospendtherestofmylife.
Thechancetobeattheforefrontofman'sexpansionintospace.
thepossibilityoflivingonthespace,andThistypeofstructureallowsmanypeopletoreachforexamplemarsleadinganalmostnormallifeuntilitreachestheorbitoftheRedPlanet,thengoingtoreducetheimpactonthephysicalandpsychologicalstressofastronautswhohavetootherwisespendmostoftheirtimeat'interiorofsmallmodulesofspaceexploration
livingovertheEarth
thatitisinspace
Creatinganewecology.
ControllableweatherSpacewalks
Space!
Space,NewtypeofsocietyTechnology
Theenvironmentandthefeelingtoliveinspqcespace
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Theideaofbeinginspaceitself.
It'ssomethingdifferentfromwhati'musedto.
AdvancingtechtoensureHumansjourneyintoSpace.
ItlookniceandIbelievetheairwouldbepurethere.Ilookslikeacocoon.
Theperformanttechnology
Livingthelifeabove
Theuniqueexperience,thechancetoconcretelyfurtherspacetravel
Somethingdifferent.Pioneer.
toencounter,workandapplymicrogravity;tohelpenablenewspaceactivitiesandapplications;performingspaceresearchinspace
Theview,howtolivetogetherandmanagelife,EVA,tobeoneofthefirsthumanswhoisabletolivelikethis
It'sSpace!!
The'newparadigmsetting'opportunity
Spaceactivityandtheopportunitytocontributetoscientificdiscoveriesandindustrialgrowthintheouterspace.
Livingonaspaceship.Observingcelestialobjectsfromorbit
Spacewalks,weightlessness,theview.
Beinginspace.Humanpowered"flight"recreationincenter.
Oneaspectwouldbedealingwiththechallengesofdoingitforthefirsttime.Anotherwouldbesimplylivingthatclosetothefrontier.Thelocation,theinnovation,theview,thechallenge,thefactthatghisisjustthekindofthingshumanityneedsasweprogressintothefuture,anditwouldhavebeenadreamcometrue.livingwithacommunityofsmartpeople,inahightechenvironment,andtheabilitytoexperiencezerogonaregularbasisOpengreenbeltsandrunningwater.Optimizingthesebetterthanmaximizingpopulationdensity,especiallyforlong-termhabitation
Parklikesetting,Space
I'vedreamedaboutitsinceIlistenedtoDr.GerardO'NeilltalkaboutitwhenIwasachild.
controlofweather,possiblyseetheearthfromafar.
LivinginSpace,andbeingapartofthefuture.
Thebeautifuldesign,thedescriptionofindependence,plentyofwork,theviews.
livinginspace
Space
Theview,hopefullyalotsimplerlife.
Itsinspace.
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livinginspace...
Controlledenvironmentalconditions
Freedomfrompollutionandnoisegreatviewflying!
lowcrimelevels
Space.
ArtificialGravityandVistas.
Accesstozerogeerecreation,challengeofengineeringthebiosphere
Accesstospace.
Space,thefinalfrontier.
Beauty
lookscool,3-D
Size,anddistancefromEarth
Theopportunitytoliveinspaceandhelpblazeanewintergalactictrailformankind.
beginningsofleavingearthb4phuced
firstoff,letmesaythatthepopulationwoulddependonmyduration.500othersonboardwouldbegreatforafewmonths.andacceptableforafewyears,butnotideal.butifit'sagoodchunkoftherestofmylife,then10Kormorewouldbebest.themostattractiveaspects...livinginabeautifullydesignedpieceofarchitecture,butalsobeingapioneer,workingonameaningfulproject,wouldgiveuspurpose.
Spaceliving.AlternativefporlivinginaplaceoutsideEarth.Earthandspaceviews
Mostattractivetomearethesizeofthesettlementandtheaccesstospace.
beinginspace,experiencing0-gravity,andseeingEarthfromorbit
workactivitiesandcontributiontospacedevelopment
Thedevelopmentandmaturationofmicrogravityconstructionmethods
High-techmodernlivingandsupportofspace-basedcivilization.
Adventuroussoulsallinoneplacesoundslikegoodcompany.
Toliveinacommunityoflike-mindedindividuals,allwhomappreciatetheworkbeingdonebylivingthereandhowimportantitwouldbetofurtheringhumanendeavorsinspace.Plustheviewwouldn'tbetoobad,either.
beingonthespacefrontier
Achancetobepartofsomethingnewandexciting.Tobeabletocontributemyknowledge.
Theabilitytofly!andlivingwithlike-mindedpeople,beinganintegralpartofourfutureinspace!
Livinginspace.
Thezerogravity,spacewalks,viewsoftheEarth,andtheupwardscurveonthehorizon.
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It'sthefistthingofthecause.Butit'dbegorgeous.Anexperience.
Pioneering;exploration;contribution;andmicrogfloating,ofcourse!
Cityplanning
climatecontrol,accesstoSpace,theview
Livinginspace!
Livinginouterspace.Workingwithotherstowardsacommongoal.Simplyseeingadreamofmine(spacesettlement)cometrue,andactuallylivingonit.
Clementweather,Attractiveenvironment
SPACE,adventure,advancingthespecies,beauty,3Dprintingforlocalmanufacturing
SeeingEarthfromaboveandalsoviewingstars.
AccesstotherestoftheSolarSystem.Fuelfromasteroidswillbecheap-itmaybecostlytovisitEarth,buttheMoonandMarsandalltherestwouldbeeasy-infactwhynotdesignKalpanaTwowiththepossibilityforenginesattachedandtakethewholethingforaride.IthinkKalpanaOnemovedtotheSaturniansystem,no?Ilikethecontrolledenvironmentalot.Itreallyfacilitatestheotherbigattractionandthatisthecommunitythatwoulddevelophere;open-welcoming-andinclusive.Moresotheideabehindintentionalcommunities.Ithinkbigcitiesandthesuburbsarefailures.Neitherfilltheneedmankindhasforcommunity.AsfuturisticasKalpanaTwomaysound-itreallyisathrowbacktotheVillageoreventribalcultureinmanyways.
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Businessopportunities.Spectacularview.ArtificalGravity.EVAs.
Theunknownisalwayenticing.
Spacecitizenpart
dontknow
Thechancetore-createsociety
lLivingandworkinginasettlement.HavingthefreedomeofviewingEarthandtravelingbackandforthtoit.Thevaryinggravityoptionsandspectacularviews.Thevastbeautyofthesettlement'slivingenvironment.Thechancetocreateacompletelynewsocietyfreefromentrenchedsocietalnorms,religion,taboosandstupidpeople.
TheviewofEarth,zero-gravity,andthechancetogoon"spacewalks"
Beingthefirstatsomething.
I'moldersoitwouldbeanewadventure.Iwouldwanttobeinvolvedwithgrowingfoodandwasanursesocouldpossiblycontributethatway.
Findingmysoulmate
Beautifulview,smalltown,secureenvironment,accesstovariablegravity.
Livinginspace.
Novelty;community/socialaspectsofthegroup;scientificexperimentation;uniqueathletics
Iwouldviewitasaspecial,pilotexperiencetohelpcontributetofuturespacehabitatdesignandculturedevelopment.Thelifestyleemphasisformemayberesearchandscientificcuriosity.
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Controlofpollutantsandcleanliving.Beingabletoseeearth.Wouldwehavealight-pollution-freeviewofthestars?Iguessprobablynot.Ohthegravity-freecentersoundsprettyawesome.Andiftheculturalnormswerethatweworkedless,like20hrs/week,hadfreehealthcare,etc.--thebenefitsmightreallyaddup.It'seasytostartimagingsomekindofsocietyutopia(likeSweden,butwaybetter!)butIwouldn'ttrustthingstogosmoothlyonthefirstgo.
Space!!!
Justbeinginspace,mostly.
technicalchallenges
Beinginspaceandnewexperiences
Beingontheforefrontofhumanexpansionintospace
Theaspectofbeingthefirsttoparticipateinanewventure.WorkingonissuesthatwouldariseonKalpanaTwo.
smallgroupofpeopleclosedcommunity
livingadream
TheviewoftheEarth
Space!
Beingpartofthefutureofspacefaringhumanity.
beingapioneer,independencefromEarth,creatingorganicgardeningconceptsforindependentandhealthyliving,opportunitytodoresearch,scienceinmicrogravity,aswellasthefunaspectsandbenefitsofaginginspace
Accesstolowgravityactivities.Accesstospacewalks.Recyclingandrepairengineeringchallenges.
I'vealwayswantedtoliveinanO'NeilCylinder.IwanttoprovethatMancanliveonmorethanjustEarth.
newchallenge
Spacetravel
Livinginanewfrontier,beinganactivepartoftestingnewtechnology
Intimacy,cleanliness,accesstozero-gandtospace.
Beinginspace.Beingonanewfrontier.
Differentplace.knowledgeofalloysandideasofhowthingsshouldworkinspace,
AccesstoLowEarthorbitforthepurposesofscientificstudiesonsocialbehavior.
Aesthetics.Design.
Space
smallsize,uniqueactivities,radical,awayfromEarth.TourstoMoon&MarsbythenworldwidepopulationselectedOurworldinspacebutwecanleavewhenwewanttoexplore.
Itsinspace.
It'slivinginSpace!
Peaceandindependence
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Constanttemperatureandpressure,everyone'invested'inthehabitatasitisamatterofsurvival,senseofcommunity.WouldappreciateahigherGenvironmentforexerciseandalowerGenvironmentasoneages.
TheviewofEarthBeingpartofhistory
Itissomethingnew.Ithinkitisimportanttomoveinthisdirection.
Pioneering,typesofpossibleactivities,views,awesomeness,endeavour-likecharacteristics.It'sjustawesome
Theopportunitytodogoodworkinspaceandhelpmakehumanityatruespacecivilization.AlsostunningviewsoftheEarthwouldbenice.Escape1G,andterrestrialdiseases,tomaybelivelonger.Pioneeringnewoptionsforhumansthatmightsurviveagiantasteroidcollision,globalthermonuclearwarorotherdoomsdaycatastrophes.
NA
Independence,expandingthehumanpresence,nowar,nopollution,limitedriskofdisease
looksattractive,viewofearth
Verylittle
It'sinspace!
Takecareofgrowingplants
Howattractiveallthegreenis.Itseemsitwouldbequiet.RightnowIamsufferingthroughthedestructionoftheentertainmentcenterinmymymodularhomepark.Getthepicture.
Inaspacestation,themechanicalengineerisking
Solitude
Newcivilization.Controlledpopulation.
Exploration
Livinginspaceisagreatstepformankindandbeingoneofthefirstsettlersisagreatopportunity,andseeingthesplendoareofEarthinrealtimewouldbegreat
farfromearth
theadventureofit
BeingabletoexperiencebeautifulvistasofEarth,beingabletoplayin0gandbeingabletogointospace.
TurningtheSolarSystemintothenewEarth.Onestepatatime.
Asidefromlivingatthebottomoftheocean,itisperhapsthemostuniquerealestateinexistence.
view
It'sliving-inspace.Itprovidesanopportunitytoresearchandlearnhowtobuildandmaintainamostlyclosedbiosphere.ThisknowledgewillenablemankindtotakefurtherstepstowardsexpandingbeyondEarth.
Beingpartoftheprogressiontowardsthenextstageofhumanitywhenweareatruespacefaringcivilisation.
Beinginspace.Livinginacontrolledenvironment.
OutlookonEarthfrommybedroom,beingabletoworkinsilenceandinpeace,verylittlerain,oratleastcontrolledweatherenvironment.:)AradicalchangefromliveonEarth,itmightfeelasareleaseevenifitsmoreconfined.
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Space!
Theappealofvisitingspace.
Thevariablegravity!
Artificialnature
HelpexpandmankindbeyondlimitsofEarth.Bepartofanewanduniquegovernmentandeconomicsystem.
Theabilitytohavethespaceexperience/perspectivewhileresidinginalivableenvironment.
Livinginspace,startingnew,buildingafutureforsociety.
Theadventure/experienceoflivinginspace.
Alternativegravitylevels.Viewsofearth.Cleanenvironment.Closeenoughtoearthtoreturnonshortnoticeifyouhadto.
opportunityforlowgraviryandspacewalk
Beinginspace.Sustainability
Pioneeringanewfrontier
Thepioneeringaspectofit.Howtomakethingsworkinsuchanenvironment.
Pioneering.Helpingtomakespacesettlementareality.Laborpoolonorbittochangeeconomicsofdoingthingsinspace.
Availabilityofearthnormalgravity
theabilitytodomicrogravityexperiments
beinginspace
Anewexperience
Seeingtheviewofearthfromspace.
runningupsidedown
Adventure.
Variablegravity;contributiontoextraterrestrialdevelopment.
Theopportunitytodolongtermspacescienceanddeveloprealworkingtechnosocialsystems.
Adventure.Freedom.
Firstandforemost,weneedtogettotheMoonandsettlethat.Muchoftheminingandresourceprocessingcanbedonethere.Thosedevelopmentsandtheresourcescanbemadeandmucheasiertogetintospacefromthemoonthanthedeepgravitywelloftheearth.Newmaterialsandmaterialsprocessingandproductioncanbedoneeasierintheshallowwellofthemoonandore,product,andmaterialscanbelaunchedfromthesurfacewithasolarpoweredmassdrivercatapult.Lowatmospheresurfaceagriculturecanbeusedtogrowfoodtothepointthatitcanbeexportedbacktoearthandtherestofthesettledcolonies.
Interestingexperiment
It'sthefuture
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Thewaterandgrass
EasyaccesstozeroGandorbit.Fromorbitoneishalfwaytoanywhere,solunartripsareviable,etc.Also,let'sfaceit...Theviewisoutofthisworld:)
Iwouldliketovisit,notlivethere.
ReconstructedBiomes,andSpace
ViewsofEarth
Microgravity,theviewsofspaceandEarthfromorbit,beingpartofanewanduniquesociety
It'snotEarth.
witnessingandbeingpartofapossiblytotallynewwayofliving
Accessto0-G.Beingpartofanewfrontiermovement.
Theview!
Opportunitytobea'pioneer"
BeingamongthefirstorganizationswithaheadquartersinaspacesettlementlikeKalpanaTwo.Continuingmyresearchandenablingfurtherexpansionfromthere.I'dlikelybetravelingbeyondtheSettlementandreturningthereasmyhome.inthe2040stimeframeifwehadtheeconomytosupportthis.
Honestly-thesimplefactofbeinginspace.
spacefulness
Customizedweather!
Somethingnewandintimate
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Q13-WhataspectsoflivinginKalpanaTwoareleastattractivetoyou?
Terribledeathifsomethinggoesverywrongwiththehabitat.
Expenseoftraveltoandfromearth.
Enclosed
Iexpecttherewouldbealotofmediaattention,a"bigbrother"atmospherethatIwouldfindabhorrent.
Difficultcommutetowork.
Beingasthiswouldbeoneofthefirstspacesettlements,alotcouldgowrong.
Norealearth,forests,water,life,outsideofcontrolledvariance.
Greenery
iguess...idon'tknowyet.maybetheabsenceofsunsetandsunrise:)
Beinginorbit
ThecostoftravelingbacktoEarth.
ExpensivesoNotreachableforbasicengineersorscientistswhostudyspace.Willbeceoandcelebritiestypes.
Beingfarfrompeoplewhoareimportanttome,lessaccesstoresourcesandluxuries
Singlepointsoffailure,willtogosomewhereelse(Moon,Mars...)
Seemsprettyfar-fetchedtoimaginesuchaplaceexistingduringourlifetime.
Itprobablysmellsifitisacaptivearea,possiblehomesickness.
Potentialclaustrophobiaincrampedquarters
Thefactthatitwasn'tfurtherawayfromEarthandthatitmightrelytooheavilyonpolitical,economic,social,andcutluralsupportfromEarth
PerceivingmyselfasatthemercyofTheDesigner
Dangersofsolarflares/burstsandmicrometeors.
Toomanypeople
Possiblysmall-townnosiness,restrictionsonfreedomifany.
Socialconflict,living/personalspace,dangersofspace
Spaceradiation
Beinginspaceisbadforhumanhealth.
Cliques
riskofbeinginoneofthefirstfewoperationalspacehabitats.there'salottolearnandtherisksofcatastrophicfailureswillbehigheratthestart.
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Thedanger
none
Thatitsinspace.
PossibilityofN.I.M.B.Y.attitudesoverreachingintomybackyard.
LackofsimilarityinthespaceEnvironmentpreparation,Lakeoffeelinglikeearthonthissmallhabitat,Lackofrealitywithreallivingthingsaslikeearth
Farawayfromfamily
I´mafraidofitnotbeingbigenoughornotenoughthingstodo.
1.)Thediameterseemsverysmalltoachieve1G-somethingmorelikeGerardKO'Neil'scontra-rotatingcylindersizesseemmorepractical-buthey,gottastartsmallIdaresay...2.)Thepossibleclaustrophobiceffectsoflookingatsomeoneupsidedownlessthanahundredyards(metres)away!
Mystrongtiestokeepingthisplanethealthyandbeautifulprecludethoughtsofexile.
Sigh.It'salwaysthepoliticalandtheologicalsystemsofanypopulation-that'snotgoingtosuddenlygoawayandidoubtthere'sanypsychologicalpanelthatcanscreenoutthemessiahsandideologues-thosequalitiesseemtodevelopinsitu.Therearedoersandshirkers,preachersandcongregations.
Thetightcurvature.Myeyesarehurtingjustfromthepictures.
Potentialfordisaster,equipmentfailure.
Cost.Separationfromfamily.
Myfamilyhasalreadyexpressedthattheywouldbeunwillingtotrysuchathing.
Danger.Whatiftheshipislost?
Maybemoreofamixoflandscapes:cityscape,forest,openfield.Fromthepicturesitlooksmostlyopenfield.
Size,needmoreinfomationondevelopment.
beinginanenclosedsettlement.MyNA(1/2Cherokee&1/2Choctaw)grandfathertaughtmeandinstillinmetheimportanceofallowingyourspirittosoarandbefree.ForNAorfolksbroughtupintheNAculture;youcannotremainenclosedoryourspiritwilldie.so,Icanneverdothisbecauseitwillbelikecagingupananimalneverallowedout.
Limitedspace.
Costoftransportationtoandfrom,mobility.
lackofabilitytotravelbackandforthtoearthinexpensively
Iassumethatinanemergency,itwouldbehardtoevacuateconsideringtheonlywayoutisthrough"lifeboats".
Proximitytoearth.
Itlooksveryfake,Iwouldmissthewildnessofrealnature.
NotsureifIcanreturntovisitfamily
everything
Nothavingasmuchspacetowanderorexplore.
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Thecost
None
Costofliving
Travel/visitingmightbedifficultbutcouldbesolvedovertimewithpossibleinterstellartravel!
Inabilitytotravel.
Iassumeitwouldbehardtofitafullyfunctioninghighereducationalfacilitywithagoodreputationthere,asthebestteachersmightonlybeavailablethroughwebcam,whichisslightlyinconvenient.
Norovirus
Distance,Evacincaseofemergencystationwide,commlinktoEarthgone.Nofood,oxygenissues,internalriots.
homesicknessforEarth
Travelingbackandforth.IwouldworryabouthowKalpanawouldmaintainitsorbit.
WalkingawayfromalmostallmyfriendsandfamilyonEarth.
Transportationcosts;
Stillcrowdedandyouarebasicallyonasmallisland.
Notbeingwithmyfamily
It'sformandpopulation,1000residentslookslikeaprettysmallamountofpeopletome.
Ican'tguessforreason.
Expense
1.You'reonaspacestationsusceptibletoalotofbadthings.2.PotentialcostoftravelingbacktoEarth3.Notinteractingwithnaturalscenerylikelookingatablueskyorgoingtothebeach.Maybetosmall,MightbebetterlocatedattheL1Lagrangepointwhichcouldmakeitthecenterofthecislunareconomyandasteppingoffpointfortherestofthesolarsystem.Itdepends.Maybeifimovethere,andmyparentsarestillalive,iwouldliketobringthemtherewithme.Ificantbringthemwithme,itsgoodthatiwillbeabletotraveltoandfromEarthinafewhours,soicanvisitmyrelativesandfriends.
Toosmall.Toofewpeople.Maybenotthatmuchtodoandthereispossiblyariskofitbeingtoo"tribal".
thedifficultysanddangersthatitwouldhavetoinvolve.
Spacejunkthathitthestation.
radiation.controlledatmosphere.theunknown.
possiblythetechnologicalproblemsviolenceoflivingwithothers
Peoplearelikelytohaveadjustmentissuestolivinginasmallcommunitythatmightnotbefamiliarwiththecultureofone.
tooexpensive
PossibleInternettroubles
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Beingfarfromearth,possiblynotbeingabletogetback.
None.
Feelingconfinedorfeelingcutofffromfriends/familyonEarth.
Concernsoversafetyfromunpredictableevents,especiallyforfamilymembers/dependents.
Disconnectfromworld,complexlifestyles
Thecylindricalshapecouldtakesomegettingusedto.Theexpensemaybeoff-puttingforsome.
Nowheretogoforvacation!Governmental/socialproblems-puredemocracy?Ha!Thatcanquicklydevelopintoautocracyoroligarchyifthereisnohigherordergovernmenttosquelchwould-beoligarchs.Witnesswhatofteninself-governingseniorcitizencommunities.OftenyougetsomeretiredformerVIP'swhoturndictatorial,scrutinizingeverypublicmoveoftheirtimidneighborsandinundatingthemwithrules,rules,rules!Smallishfootprint.Icouldliveinatincanforaconsiderabletime,butifyouareaskingaboutmywholefamilywewouldneedspacetomovearoundinanddothings.
Mywifemightnotwanttoaccompanyme.
Thattimewillmakelivingtherelessexciting
Howwouldthisspacehabitatpayforitself?Whatwouldtheeconomyofthehabitatbebasedon?
Theonly'jumpingoff'pointmentionedwasEarth.whatabouttheMoon,Mars,asteroids,et.cetera?
IsolationfromEarth,costofshippinggoodsandfood,costandlogisticaldifficultiesoftraveling/vacationingelsewhere.
Lackoftraveloutside.Beingdependentonalimitedsupplyofair,energy,water...theessentials.
Jobs?Services?
Confinement.Lackofamenities.Riskofenvironmentalcontainmentfailure.Easeofsabotage.Uncertaintyofformofgovernment.
Limitedlivingspaceandtraveloptions.Potentialforcatastrophicfailure.
Thelossofbeingconnectedwithfamilyandfriendsisadefiniteminus.Eventhoughinternetconnectionwouldbeapossibility,itwouldn'tbethesame.Idon'tthinkIwouldlastmorethanayearorlongerthanaproject.Iwouldseeasmallsettlementasthatasaplacefocusedonresearch,buildingcraftforexplorationorasastagingpointforsolarsystemtravel.ItwouldseemthatitwouldbeanidealplacetohaveGradstudentsbeassignedtoaspartoftheresearchorengineersectionsinconjunctionwithcompaniesinvolvedwiththebuildingofcraftorcompaniesdoingresearch.Theresearchwouldbeanadjuncttothetypesofthingsbeingdoneonthecurrentspacestation.TherewouldhavetobeamoduleattachedtotheKalpanathatwouldbeaweighlessenvironmentaswellasonetosimulatetheconfinesofaMarsvehicle.(akatheMartianorthoseinZubrinandBaker.)
I'm82yearsoldanddon'thaveenoughliffelet
Theamountofmoneyitwouldtaketovisitearth.
Lossofatmosphere.
Cost.
None
None
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Cabinfever.
it'slimited.it'sdesignedforhomebodies.goodforretiries
Rotationrateof4.03rpmfor1gistwicethethresholdor2rpmbeyondwhichtoavoidCoriolisforceeffectsontheinnerearcauseproblemswhenmovingaround.
LowEarthorbitisnotfarenoughfromearth.TheMoonoraLagrangePointwouldbebetter.
AtthebeginningImightfeelabitconstrainedifithappenstobetoosmall.
Notbeingabletovisitmyfamily.
Theexpenseanddiscomfortofgettingthere.
Separationfromkidsandgrandkids,potentiallackofmedicalhelp.
Expenseoftravelingto/fromEarth
IpersonallydonotseeanyunattractiveaspectstolivingatKalpanaTwo!Iwouldlovetoseeifitwerepossibleforopportunitiesforthedisabled.
wouldnotbeabletogobacktoEarth
radiation
Longdistancerunningisabigpartofmyexerciseandrelatedmentalhealth,soI'dwanttobeabletodothatanywhereIlivedpermanently.Idonotbelieveforaminutethatthefirstsuchcolonieswilllookanywherethatidealandwouldmissbeingabletosee'green'livingthingsallaroundmeonadailybasis.
Cutofffromextendedfamily,sportsactivities,theater,impactondevelopmentsinthecity,countryandworld
Jobchoice.
Thephysicalsizemaybeabitsmallfortheproposedpopulation.Forlongterm,livingquarterswouldhavetobeabitlargerthanthoseofaeconomycruiseshipcabin.
smallsize,inabilitytoeasilyjumpinthecarandgosomewhere.
Smallsizeduetorisksbeingmorelikelytohaveanimmediateimpact(fire,damagetopressurecontainment)
theexpenses
Expenseoftravelingbackandforthtoearth.
Notbeingabletohuntandfish,butviewingspacewithoutthisatmosphereinthewaywillcompensateforthat!
artificalgravity
Thetimeframethatitwilltaketomakeithappen.
Alwaysworriedaboutsafey
Iconsiderita"toosmall"insizeenvironmentforhaving1000residents.And,howmanyaregoingtobecontributingtomaintainingthislivingenvironment?Or,aretheregoingtobemanyofthesepeoplewhodon'tneedtowork?Maybetheyshouldallapplyforthe"livingenvironment"maintenancejobsfirstthenthosewhoqualifyandgethiredarethepeoplewhogettomovetoKalpanaTwo.TransportationwilllikelybeanissueforsometimetocomelimitingtripstoEarthandelsewhere.Wehavealottolearnaboutbuildingandmaintainingecosystemsandundoubtedlywill,makemistakesbeforewesucceedinbuildinginenoughresilienceintothesystemsthattheyarestableundervirtuallyallconditions.
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Darkness.
Potentialseparationfromfamilyandrelatives,andasmallercommunitythanwhatisexperiencedincommunitiesonEarth.
ThedependanceonEarth
Hightravelcost
Restrictedmobility,littlevariationinlife,verylikelymajorcatastrophiceventswilloccur.
Size.Expense.
Limitedabilitytogobackandforthbetweenearth&colony
Thecost,thoughthismaybeabitofanunavoidableproblemrightnow.
NothavingallthepossibilitiesandwondersofEartheasilyaccessible.Oneisbasicallystucktherefortheduration,howeveritturnsout.
Nosky
gravityproblems?
Lessattractive...Ithinkthatthefactthatpeoplewillbethereallthetimeinonesameplace.Iwouldbeworryaboutgettingboredorfeelinguseless.thesomewhatdifficultyofvisitingearth,butbeingabletovisitearthatallisahugeplus.limitedmedicalhelp,therewasnotmuchmentionofmedicalfacilitiesandthatissomewhatconcerningbutI'massumingthat'sprobablybecauseofthelimitedspaceforthisarticle.
Explosivedecompression,radiation.
Spinningtomake"gravity".#DEW#ISS#FallingBodies#GravityTest#GravityRevolution
Thechanceofexcessiverestrictionofpersonalfreedom.
Costtobethere,inabilitytocurrentlytravelinatimelywaytoandfrom,wouldbeworriedaboutoverallsustainability.
LonglagtimesininformationfromEarth
Notsureyet.
Theproposedsizeoftheproject.Ithinkthehabitatshouldbelargersothatthecylinderdoesn'tappearsosharplycurvedandcanalsospinataslowerrateandstillproducea1gsimulatedgravity.
distancefromfamily
Smallsize,motionsickness?,potentiallylimitedresources,andinabilitytotravelbacktoEartheasily.
Beingunabletovisitfamilyonearth.ItwouldseemcostprohibitivetoreturnfromEarth.
howsmallitis(thesamepeopleeveryday)
Leavingalifebehind
Notbeginonearth,duhh...
Size
Highcost
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Smallsize
Thesizeandpeoplearoundmeitdoesn'tfeellikeabalancedsociety.
Physicalisolationandspacesicknessevenwithgravity
Theisolationitcouldbring.
Cannottraveltoearthfrequently.
Limitedspaceandfreedom.
Istheworldending?
Rarelybeingvisitedbyfamilyandfriendswhoarenotspaceenthusiasts.
Hullbreechesandgovernmentinterference
Views.Adventure.Meaningfulwork
Thesameneverchangingsceneryandthefeelingsofpossiblybeingtrappedonstationindefinitelyinaclaustrophobickindofway.
Smallspace,theimpossibilityofgoingsomewheredistant.Theexpenses.
Trump-likeegotists
Ilikemeetingnewpeopleandwithoutsignificantotherworkchallenges,seeingthesame500facesmightgetold.
Don'tknow
Radiation
IwouldmissthewideopenspacesontheEarth'ssurfaceandalsothediverseterrestriallandscapes
Theartificialgravityandthefood
maybethefactoflivinginacomplexstructuresusceptibleofsuffersomefailingscanmakesomeoftheresidentsdifficulttolivewithduetostressparanoiaorfear
Fearoftechnologyfailing
Toofewpeople.
Totallivingareaisaboutthesameasthreeoftheworld'slargestcruiseshipslashedtogether.That'senough?
DependenceonEarth-launchedsupply.
technicalparts
Thepointofspaceexplorationisexploration.IwouldnotwanttoliveinthiscolonyifIcannotexploremyenvironment.
Lackingtheagencytoleavethespacecolonywithoutbeingdependentontransportationfromsomeoneelse.
Exclusivitycreatedbythehighcostofmovingthere.
Thedangersoflivinginspace;Radiation,orbitingdebris,CMEs.Asidefromdanger,thecostatover50xgreaterthananaveragevacationwoulddiscourageleisuretripsbacktoEarth.
farawayfromrealnature
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Iwouldbeconcernedovercompositionofthecrew.
Thecostofvisitingearth
lifemightbecometoopredictable!Ifthecommunityofpeopleistoostable,nonewones,itcouldbestifling.
Iworryabout:a)ThepriceoftripstovisitfamilybackonEarthandb)whetherornottheirwillbeequalityforallresidentsonthissettlement.Ihopethatitwon'tbringthepoliticalandreligiousturmoilthatisfoundonEarthtoday.
Costoftravelingonvacation/accesstoextendedfamily.Enoughlifeboatsforeveryone?Tourists?
higherprobabilityofdeaththroughhabitat/ecosystemfailure,stagnationofexperiencesandstimuli,distancefromrelativesandfriends.
Ithinkthesystemcouldbeabusedastodecidewhogetstolivethereandwhodoesnt
Theriskofdisasters,likeitisnootherplacetogo...
Diversity
Highlydependentontechnology!
Maybei'llnotbeincontactwithrelatives.
Potentialhardradiationrisks.
Distancefromhelp
Livinginthespacehabitatwithstrangers
Primarily,thecostofmovingthereandthepotentialdangersoflivinginspace.
Potentialdeath.Limitsofdestinationsperhaps.
None
Distancefromfamilyisahugenegativefactor.Safetyofthecomplexisanotherhugedrawback.Acomplexlikethiswouldbeincrediblydifficulttobuild,tomaintain,andtofinance.
isolation,artificiality,possiblemalfunctions
DuetothesmallpopulationIrecommendthatthereshouldbemultipleKalpana2's,tohaveneighborswillhelpeasesomefeelingsofisolation,andpromoteanewspacebasedculture.Ihopethateventuallywecouldhavespace-city'sthatrangefrom5000/10000,andbeyond.Beingawayfromfamilyandfriendsonearth.FeelingscaredifsomethingwereevertohappentoKalpanaTwoandwearestuckinspace(althoughitwouldbeworthit).
Missingthecomfortsofthenaturalworld,liketheocean,animalsandlandscapes.
Politics
Thegravityistoohigh,Iwouldprefermoongravityorless.Andtheopenvolumeistoolarge.Asmallmeteorstrikeandwe'dalldie.SpacehabitatsshouldnottrytoreproduceEarth.
ContainedColonyMonitoryExclusiveness
Nothingreally.
Smallsize,floatinginspace,smallnumberofpeopleinsettlement,permanency/commitmentofsettlingthere,possibilityofcatastrophicdangerifsomethinggoeswrong-asinweallprobablydie.Maybeeffectsonhealthlikeradiation,etc.
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Ipersonallycherishtheideaofjumpingintoanunknown.Thechallengeofhavingtofindsolutiontonew,first-timeproblemsisveryexcitingforme.Iabsolutelylovenewobstaclesandproblemstosolve,onesthatchallengemementally,physically,andemotionally.Iamaproblem-solver,avisionary,andadreamer,andIcanfindsolutionstoanyproblem.Sotherewouldbenothingaboutlivinginspacethatwoulddissuademeinanydirectionotherthanwantingtogoupandtokeepmovingforward.Limitedspaceandnumberofotherpeople.Yettheselimitationscanbeovercomewithadvancedentertainmentandcommunicationsystems.
Soexpensiveandlimitedoptionsforromance
Upkeepwork
everlastingdanger
Thefactthatitwilljustbeappallinglyrichyuppiesinchargeofeverything.IsawhowBioshockplayedout,Iimagineitwillenduplikethat.
Boredomorinsularpopulation.Alsoneedtimetomyselfandbeautifulgreenspace.
Threatofexplosivedecompression,radiationeffects,interferencefromgovernments/bigbusinesses.
Itsoundsalittlepopulationdense.Thesystemofgovernmentmaynotbethebest...someautonomybutnotnecessarilytotalnonrelianceunlessitwerebigenoughandselfsustaining
Dangers,noaccesstorealoutdoors.
ThepossibilityofmalfunctionsandsafetyissuesalongwithifI'dbecramped.Safetyistopthough,notmuchofatimewellspentifIdieimmediately.
Itsnotearth
Stuckonstation,lackofnaturalenvironment
Isolation,
Riskofdanger,accident.
Itwillbeavailableforthesuperrichorpeoplewithcertaincitizenships
ThecostoftraveluptoKalpanaTwo
Riskandexpense.
Risk,newtechalwayshasriskandbeingsoclosetovacuum
ThepossibilityofnothavingdiversebiozonessuchaswehaveonEarth.
Thepotentialisolationfromothercommunitiesonearth.
UntilthetravelbetweenEarthandKalpanaTwoismoreeconomicallyviable,thatistheleastattractive.Mainlybecauseitseemsworkwithincertaintechnologydevelopmentindustriesmightbelimited.Although,thatcanbesorted,ifcompaniesarewillingtohavetheiremployeesstationedatKalpanaTwo.
Danger,dependenceofearth'ssupport
Everythingthatinvolvesouterspace.
Cannotthinkofany.
Missingtheoceanbreeze.
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Costandeconomywouldlikelybelimited,higherriskofenvironmentaldisaster
Nothing
Itwouldbasicallybethesameasbeingtrappedinajail
Itmaybebecramped
TooclosetoEarth
Extracostofashuttletosurfacewhenvacationing:)
difficulty/costtovisitearth
Thesmallsizeofthephysicalspace.
Nonecometomind
Wouldliketobefurtherfromearth.Costofthetrip.
TheexpenseifyoushouldwanttogobackandforthfromKalpanaIIandEarth.Whereisaspaceelevatorwhenyouneedone?
Iamgettingoninyears,andIamnotsureIcouldkeepupmyshareofthework.
Confinement
dificultytravellingandexploringothercultures
Unknownsfornow.Idonotknowwhattheywouldbebutwouldliketotryanyway.
Beingintegratedintothealreadyfailingeconomyofearth.wouldmuchratherbeselfsustaining,nofiatcurrencybackedbynothingandissuedwithattacheddebt.
Thesmallsizeisleastattractive.
Spacewalksoutsidethesettlement
Nothavinganyinputintowhomyfellowsettlerswillbe
Earthnormalgravity
WouldmisswalkinginthemountainsofEarth.
Verysmallsize.Muchtoosmall.Ithinkyoushouldfocusthefirstspacedevelopmentsonthesethings:1.Shorttermvacationing(5day-1monthtrips)2.Universityextensioncampuseswithzerogravitylabs,observationdecks,telescopesystems,etc.3.CorporateLeasingofsuperhighendofficespace/conferencecenters4.CorporateLeasingofzerogravitylaboratoryspacewithsimulatedgravitylivingquartersonthesamespaceshipWecandothisasahumanrace.
Toofarfrommyfamily.
Beingawayfromfamily
View,science,lifestyle
RoundtriptravelcoststotheEarthwouldbeataminimumof$2,500.AnannualvacationonEarthcouldeasilyrun$7,000to$10,0000basedonacoupleorfamilyoffour.Thesmall,possiblyclaustrophobicsize.Andthepotentialtofeellikeyou'relivinginsideofacontainer,whichmightleadtoanxietyordepression.Theenvironmentand"atmosphere"mustfeelasclosetoEarthaspossible,includingthebeautifulsunrises,sunsets,floraandfauna.The"sounds"ofnaturemaynotbepresent,whichisaserious
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deterrenttolivinginthesettlement.
beingoutdoorsandthefearlifewouldbetooregulated
Worryaboutcrowdedness
IwouldbesignificantlymoreinterestedifIwasn'tmarried.Iamwillingtoliveinarelativelyriskyhabitatforthesakeoftheadventure,butIwouldbeveryconcernedabouttheriskstomywifeandchildren.NotbeingabletoaffordtoreturntoEarth.Thesmallspacesizeofthesettlements.Perhapsseveralsettlementscouldbelinkedtogether.*artificiallimitedecosystem,i.e.couldn'tgointowildernessorevenlargepark*notclearwhatIwoulddotherethatIcannotdohereonEarth*smallphysicalsize
Costofmovingbetweenthesurfaceandsettelment.
Muchmoreexpensiveandtimeconsumingwhentravelingoutsidethecommunity(e.g.vacationtoEarth).
TherewillnodoubtbealimitationontheutilizationofresourcesthatIfinddesirableintermsofsustainabilitybutwhichwouldprobablyrestrictmymeatintakeandoverallcalorieintake.
potentialisolationfromcurrentfamilyandfriendsduetodifficultyandexpenseofreturningtoearthforvisits
Costtovisitearth.
none
KalpanaTwoisdesignedtoorbitabout500kilometers(310miles)abovetheEarth’sequator,KalpanaTwowillhaveEarth-normalartificialgravityontheinsideofthehullandzero-gravityinthemiddle,whereyoucanliterallyfly.Spacewalksoutsidethesettlementmayalsobepopular.
beingoffEarthformorethanafewdays
Theinabilityto"getaway".Vacationswouldbedifficult,sovirtualrealityvacationswouldberatherimportant.Lastly,whateverunintendedconsequencesmayarise.
ThelocationinlowEarthorbit
Isolation,especiallyaproblemwhenraisingchildren.Whentheygrowup,theyshouldgetaguaranteedafreeridetoandfromEarth.Otherwise,theycouldhateyouforisolatingthem.TheincreasedriskofK2beingoneoftheearlygenerationspacesettlementsi.e.probablymoreproblemstodealwith(butgreatlearningexperienceforhumanity).
Certainresourcelimitations.
thecost
maintainingorcopyingterrestrialsurfaceconditions(parks,etc.)
Iwouldmisstheweatheronthesurfaceofearth,thefreedomofmovement,andcontactwithfriendsandacquaintances.Iwouldbeconcernedaboutbecominghomesickforearth,andvolunteersshouldconsiderallaspectsandchallengesofthisopportunity.Ofthosethatchoosetolivepermanently,whataboutchildrenbornthere?Howwouldthepopulationbekepttosupportablelevels?Howwouldtheissueofspacedebrisbeaddressedbyengineering?ThecostofsupportingK2wouldbeveryhigh,likelyhigherthananyrevenueproducedbythecolony.Wouldithavetobesubsidizedorwoulditbeselfsufficient?
closeliving
Taxes
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I'dratherbeonanotherplanet.
Comeonifyouarelivinginspaceitshouldbeconsideredanhonourtobethereaprivilege&withthatyoubecomepartofagreatcommunity.Beingstuckthere.Lackoffreedom.Fearoffallingoutwithpeopleandoffactionsdeveloping.Lackofrealfreshairandweather.
travelbackandforthfromEarthtovisitrelatives,potentialjobopportunitiesinnewsettlement
It'sabitsmall.Costprohibitivetravel.
possiblyitbeinhardorexpensivetovisitthefamily
Itssmallsize.
Overcrouding
Thedangerouslylowaltitudethatthisprojectproposestoorbitin.Atmosphericdragisstillsomewhatsignificantat310miles,andthecolonywillalsoinherentlybeaverylow-densityobject.Reboostingwithsomesortofpropulsionblockwillprobablybenecessaryeveryfewmonths,possiblymorefrequently(Asacomparison,theISS,whichorbitsbetweena270miby215mizone,mustperformaboostmaneuverevery6to8weekstokeeptheperigeeabovethat215mithreshold.).Iwouldsuggeststartingconstructionuparoundthe800milealtitudezone.SatellitesthatareparkedroughlyinthisregionfromtheearlyColdWareraarestilluptheretoday,anditisstilllowenoughthatEarth'sbestreusablelaunchvehiclescanstillgetsignificanttonnagetotheconstructionsite.
Thatmoreofthesesettlementsarenotbeingestablished;Privacy;andownershiprights.
Gettingthereandback,notahugefanofflying,moresothefactthatifsomethinggoeswrongit'snoteasytogetback!
Alltheshittythingsaboutlivingonearthwithnoneofthebenefits
I'mnotsureifmydogqualifiesasachild,andIhonestlycan'tthinkofanymore.
Thepossibilitythatwereplicatethemistakesofpreviousfrontiers.Thatequityissuesareanafterthought
Firstofallweshouldmakesmallcoloniesotherthanalargecityonthemoon.Sothatsomehumancanliveonthemoonforsomedecades.Thiswillhelpusincollectingthenecessarydatarequiredforlunarlife.Sotheconclusionisthatweshouldsendateamofprofessionalresearchers,engineersandscientistsonmoonforsomedecadestogathernecessaryinformation.
Thepossibilityofbeingawayfromfamilyforextendedperiodsoftime
ItcostinganarmandalegeverytimeIfeellikevisitingsomewhereEarthside
possible/potentialcorporatesponsership
None
Danger
Safety
LimitationontraveltoEarthtovisitrelativesandfriends.
notbeingabletogetotherpeopletoexperiencewhatyouexperience.also,theleastattractiveotherthingwouldbbeingdependentonearthforanythingbesidespeople.
smallsizeperhapsnotbeautifulenoughpeopleandnotgoosenoughfoodandliving
Dangerofdeathfromthestationsfailure.
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Thepricewouldprobablybeoutofmybudget.Iamjustaregularhourlypaidcomputertechworkingat6publicelementaryschools.
Limitedresourcesandaccesstoresources
Дороговизна.
Wellthereshouldn'tbetwomanypeoplethisplaceneedstobeindependentsoitwouldneedtogrowitsownfoodsoexcessivewastingliketoday'sworldwithitshighpopulationwouldleadtoashortageinfoodsohavinguptoa1000peopleto500isenoughIthink
limitedpopulationsize,difficultyofvisitingearth
expenseinvolvedingettingto/fromtheEarth.(perhapsaspaceelevatorwouldhelpreducethatcost!:))
Thepossibilityofneverseeingfamilyandfriendsagain;thepossibilitythat,sinceit'sanartificialhabitat,thingscouldgodrasticallywrong.
Notseeingadownsideatthispoint.
Addingbarrierstohavingfriendsandlovedonesvisitmeandmyfamily.Itmayalsobedifficulttogiveupsomefreedoms;Iimaginetherewouldnotbeanoptionforhavingabonfireatthebeach.
Costofconsumables.
effectsoflowgravitymakingreturntriptoearthdifficult
Itwillbequiteexpensive,perhapshundredsofthousandsofdollars.
Perhapsthesmallspace,butIalsoseethisasapositive,sinceitallowsonetogettoknowtheircommunitymembersmoreeasily.
expensive
Theexpensivepricetotravelbackandforthtoearth
Neverbeingabletoseemyfamily
There'sadownside?
Theradiation.Unlessyouhavesomeremarkablehullthicknesses.
I'mguessingyou'dgethomesicksometimes
TherearemanywonderfulpeopleandplacesonEarththatIwouldforeverabandon.
Ifsomethinggoeswrong,wheredoyougo?Violence,disease,andmalfunctionwouldbeongoingconcerns.Beingunabletotravelmuchwouldbeunappealing.Hiking,camping,boating...Thereareanumberofexperiencesthatwouldbemissed.
Couldgetboring.Needmoreinfoonworkhoursandtypeofsalarythere.
Sizeofthecylinder
Probablytheworstaspectwouldbethepossiblehighcostoflivingorofimportingthingsthatcouldn'tbemade.
Thepoliticsinvolvedinpeopleinhabitingspace.
Frankly,I'dlikemoreofanO'NeillIslandOneapproach,oraBernalsphere.Butonehastostartsomeplace.Also,thecostoftransportationtoandfromislikelytobesomethingofastumblingblock,andI'dwanttoknowaboutstormsheltersandemergencyevacuationcontingencies.
Cost
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Difficultyoftravelingtoandfrom.IwillhavetofinishallmytravelsbeforeImovein,butthatisfine.Therecomesinaquestionofmodernizingandexpandingthesettlement.Ihaveotherquestionsthatwouldhavetobeaddressed.
Nonereally.
Only110meters?
possibleovercrowding
Itseemssmall.Idobelievelargerwouldbemorecomfortable,evenifthesmallsizewastechnically"adequate".
1.Riskofdamageandhullbreechesduetospacedebries.2.RiskofSolarflaresandgammaraybursts.3.ThefactthatthedesignisasinglecylinderinsteadofaseriesinterconnectedcylindersformingaseriesofringsthatorbitaroundtheEarth'sequator.SimilartotheringsofSaturn.
expensive
Expensivetotravelto/fromEarth;inherentriskoftravelto/fromEarthduetorequireddelta-V(i.e.,vs.drivingacarortakingaflight);limitedgeographicsize/diversity;notsurewhatwouldbethepointtosettleinEarth'sorbitvs.deepspace-unlessitwaslikearesortvs."permanent"residence;wouldbeseparatedfromfamily/friends;potentialtofosterelitistand/orconformistsocieties(lackofdiversity)similartosomehomeowners'associationsorcovenantcommunitieshereonEarth,butworse
Potentialrelianceonearthsupplies.
Physicalspace,smallnumberofpeople,lesschoiceinfoodstuffs,recreation.
Murphy'slaw.
Friendsandfamilybackomearth
Smallpopulation
Awayfromfriendsandfamilyonearth,radiationdanger,beingsuckedoutintospaceifabreachwheretooccur
People
Islandlivingorshiplivingcanbecomeboring.Needtobetogooffsite.
Iwouldbefarmoreinterestedinanindependentcolony,ininterplanetaryspaceinsteadofLEO.
Cost
Probablyitwillbedifficulttolivethereifthepeopledon'tembracetheconceptofdiversityandtheydon'tlearntorespectothersprivacymorethanithappensonEarth.
Theprice
Settler'slackofcontrolovertheirpersonalenvironmentandKalpanaasawhole.SettlersofnewplacesonEarthbuilttheirenvironmentastheysawfitandalwayshadtheoptiontoexpandorcustomize.
Cost
ThecostoftransferbetweenEarthandKalpanaTwo.
Priceandhowmuchitistogettoearth
TheveryhighcostoftransportationtoandfromEarth,applicablenotonlytopeople,buttoanything,includingcuttingedgetechnology.Limitedlifestylechoicesandsmallpopulationtointeractwith.ItsoundsfunforayearbutIdon'twanttospendmyentirelifekeepingashiprunning.
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discouragingaspectsaccordingtomewouldbethecostoflivingthere.Notallwouldbeabletoaffordsuchalifestyle.
Constantsenseofvulnerability.Crowdedconditions.
Themoney.
None
Highcost.
Itwouldtakemeawayfromfamily
Separationfromfriendsandfamilyforlongperiods.
Therepetitivesceneryisone.Also,theabilitytoseetheentire'world'aroundyou(sinceitisacylinder)givesthesenseofconfinementnomatterhowbigtheO'Neilcylinderis.Thereisalsothedangerofanepidemicoccurringon-boardthespaceship.
Howexpensiveitwillbetogettolivethere..
Riskofgettingtoandfromthesettlement.
COST
Druggies,gangs,leftwingelitistsflyingSpacedebriswipingusout.
Riskofradiation,longtermsaffectsoflivinginlowEarthorbit,hullpunchersduetoorbitaljunk.
Nothing
Potentialboredominthelongrun
specialexperienceinspacelivingafterretirement.
Cantthinkofanythingdifferentfromwhatisleastattractivelivingonplanet.
Thenecessarylimitsoflivinginartificialstructurelikenodigging,whichIaccept.
Costmightbeabitdifficult.Aswellas,withsuchasmallnumberofroomsopen,itwouldbehardtogetaspot.
gotastronautchance
SimilaritytoEarthenvironment
LivinginPleasantville.Also,notbeingabletoreturn,especiallywhenI'mfairlysureIknowhowwecoulddesignabettervehiclecapableofthis...althoughI'mnoexpertinsuchthings.
Crampedspace,enclosedliving,absenceofeveningbreeze.
Windonmyface.
Design
Veryexpensivecommodities,accesstoquarternaryhealthcare.
Security
Therearenodeflectorsandshieldsyet
I'dbeabletoseetheothersideofthesettlement,orseewhat'shappening'above'me.Ithinkthereshouldbesomekindofceilingtostoppeoplefromseeingeverything.Itmakesitappearrathersmall.Whereasaceilingorwhatever
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youwanttocallit,wouldpreventthatfromhappeningIthink.
Thatitmayendupbeingfortheeliteonly(howevertheywillnotbetheonesrunningtheshowandkeepingthelightson)
Governanceandmanagementofasmallpopulation
Theotherpeople.
ItisseeingmylandcurlupandbendovermeandwhenIlookup,Idon'tseeskiesbutallIseearebuildings,peopleandland.Itissounearthly.ItslikeIwouldknowthatIamconfinedtoliveinacylinder.
Thecost--Idon'tknowifI'llbeabletoaffordit.
awayfromfamily
Costofflyingbacktoearth.Butifwecangotothemoonandbeyondcheaper,thatwilleasilydropthisfault.
I'm75;myhusbandismuchyounger..Mychildren&grandchildrenareonEarth,couldnotaffordtocome,andprobablydon'twantto.That'swhythe1-yearvisit:Iliketohugthem.Also,Ihavemanymedicalproblems.I'dwanttoknowthere'sgoodmedicalcareavailable.Dependingontheavailablespacelaunchtechnology,Imightnotbephysicallyabletomakethetrip.Thatonlytherichcanlivethereandyouleavepeoplebehindlikeitisagatedcommunitysoitsplitshumanraceinhalf.Muchlikethatmovie.Leavethepollutionthattherichhelpedcreatebehindsotheycanlivewithoutitinanenviromentthatiscontrolled.NOTGOOD.
canseetheearth
Missingfriendsandfamily.Nevervisitingplacesonearthagain.
Possibilityofdisaster.
Likeanydevelopmentithastostaynice.
Traveltoandfromearth
Risksoflivinginspace,exposuretoasteroidstrikesandsolarflares.
CostoftraveltoandfromtheEarth'ssurface
Howdifficultitmightbeforotherstovisit,howwewillbephysicallydisconnectedfromtherestoftheworld,riskoffailureinorbit,withnohelp,howexpensiveitwillbe.IampredictingthatbythetimeKalpanaTwoisoperational,humanswouldhavemademultipletripstoMars,revisitedtheMoon,captureasteroids,masterreusablechemicalrocketsandhavemajorbreakthroughsingroundtoorbitpropulsionandin-spacepropulsion,meaningspacetechnologyandtechnologyasawholewouldhavegreatlyincreaseditspotential.
Food,Sustainability
Radiationexposure,that'saboutit.
Thecostoftravelfromittoelsewhereandback.
Danger
Apossiblesenseofclaustrophobia
Noapartmentforprivacyandnosport,hobby,etctohavefuninspace.
Whataboutasteroidsandsolarradiation?Onlytheveryrich(0.05%)ofpopulation(orless)couldaffordit.Whatisthegovernmentsystem?Isitindependentofearth'snations?
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Nothavingallmyfamilywithme.ReducedpossibilityoftraveltootherpartsofEarth.
Possiblybeingawayfromfamilyorfriendsforalongtime,butfriendsaremadeandfamilycanalwaysbekeptintouch,sonothingmuchreally.
Cabinfever.
Ifsomethinggoeswrongwealldie.
none!
Beingfarfromextendedfamily.
ThecostanddifficultyofgettingtoandfromKalpanawouldmakeitdifficult-it'smuchmoreviableifpeoplearen'tmakingaonceinadecadejourney
TosmallofaHabitat,anexpandedversionwouldincreasethedesirabilitytolivethereforextendedperiodsoftime.
GravitythroughrotationandpotentialCorioliseffectsickness.
CostofvisitingEarth.ItwouldbenicetostillhavetheabilitytovacationonEarth,ifsodesired,orvisitEarthforbusinessmeetings,etc..
IwouldworryaboutthesustainabilityawayfromEarthifweweretolosecontactorshippingability.
Youreallycan'tgo"home"again.
Lackofdiscernablewildlifeandpets(itispossiblegivenenoughroomonthestationtomakeawildlifesanctuaryorpark,andIcan'timaginelifewithoutmypetsinanycase).IthinkthatIwouldhavetogetusetotheideaofbeingawayfrommostofmyfamily,butIliveawayfromthemnowexceptformyin-laws.ThemIwouldn'tmindlivingfurtherawayfrom.
Oxygenstarvationduringemergency,spaceshrapnel.
ThefactthatIamalready65andwilllikelymissthisopportunity
Security,containementandboredom
Difficulttovisitfriendsandfamily.
Spacedebrisissues.Solarradiation.
Idonotimagineanythingbotheringme.
ExpenseoftravelbacktoEarth
Possibleradiationdamage
nothing
Nocannabis
Cost
Nothing.
TheamountofmoneyitwouldtaketotraveltoKalpana
Justbeingawayfromhomeandthewaytheenvironmentmightwork,IwouldliketolivesomewherethatcouldatleastremindofEarth.Acheapknockoffwillnotdo.
Theenclosedspaceandnotbeingina"natural"environment.
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Possibledangers(hullbreachetc)
Iwouldmisssomeofthecomfortsofearth,likethevarietiesoffoodsandexperiencingthemountains.Ifpetsarenotallowed,Iwouldhaveahardtimelivingwithoutmydog.Potentiallackofvariety,discovery,exploration.Wouldhavetoensuretherewasabundantopportunitytofulfillpurpose.
None
It'salmostTOOnormal.Iamhavingalotofdifficultyimagininghowitssustainable,also...becauseitseemslikeitwouldcostalotofmoneytolivethereandyou'dhavetodoalotofworkwhilelivingthere...andthetwowouldnotevenout.Wherewouldtheincomebe?Wouldanyonewanttopayhundredsofthousandsofdollarstogetuptheretoliveandthenhaveajobas,say,awastedisposaltechnician?
Howexpensiveitistogotoearthandback.
LeavingwhatIknowonEarth.Somanyriskstolivinginspace.
Ilikeotherengineeringschemesbetterthanspinningcylinders;also,orbitaroundTerraisnotfarenoughtoescapeitspoliticaldisasters,orevensomephysicaldisasters;weneedalternateinsuranceforcontinuityofthehumanspecies.Idon'tknow.Dangerslikecosmicradiationmightconcernme.Medicalcare,ordangerousaccidents.Unforeseencomplicationswithrunningthecity,maintenance,orevenproblemswithenergyorcommunicationforinstance.Whataboutcrime?Backupsystemsorsecurity?Spaceisariskybusiness,butthenagain,soisbeinghere.IguesstherenoguaranteesbutI'dliketoknowthecityisntgoingtocrashtotheearthwitheveryoneinit.I'dhavetobeassuredthatthesethingsareaccountedforandengineeredwellbypeoplewhoknowwhatthey'redoingandnotjustaftermymoney.
Riskofnorovirus
Therecreationofan"Earth-like"environmentinanorbitalcolonyisabelovedconceptandisentirelyimpractical.Itisawasteofspaceandresources.Itwouldmakethecolonymuchmoredifficulttomaintainasitwouldinvolvetheweathercreatedinthelargevolumeofemptyspace.Itisalsobasedontheassumptionthathumanneed"views".Thefacthumanshaslongliveinenvironmentsnothingofthesortwithlittleornonegativeeffects.ThevestibularandCoriolis-inducedeffects-thehabitatistoosmall;togetonegeethespinratewouldbeabsurd.Suggestyouconsiderspinningahabonacablewithacounterweight;youmightbeabletogetthespinratedowntosomethingnotsocrazymaking.Thepotentialdangeriswaytoohighforatleastahundredyears:wehaven'testablishedahabitatthissizeunderwater.
Probablywhenthetoiletsystembreaks
There'safinancialrisk.Unlikepropertyonland,thespacestationprobablywon'tlastforever,soit'snottraditionalrealestate.Alsoobviouslythere'sasafetyrisk.
Can'tthinkofany.Ifallthetechnicalissuesaresolvedorsolvable.
Toosmallitneedstobe220+metresinRadiustoapproximateEarth1G.Anylessandspacemotionsicknesswillcomplicatelivingthere.IwouldgivemyselfayearbutiwouldleavesoonerifIcan'tgetoverthemotionsickness.
Ican'tthinkofany.
Costofliving
Realisticallyprobablytheexpense
At110metersindiameter,inordertogenerateEarthnormalgravity,itwouldneedtospinatabitmorethan4rpm.ExperimentsconductedbyAshtonGraybielin1977suggestthatatsucharate,symptomsofmotionsicknesscouldbeaproblem.(Notfatal,butannoying.)Toactuallyinsurethatalloccupantswouldbesymptomfreeandproducea1Genvironment,Iexpectyouwouldneedtobeaboutfourtimesthesizecurrentlyproposed.
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Theexpenseandthelikelylevelofpoliticalandideologicalnut-jobbery.
IsolationdistancetoEarthNoplansformajorEvacIFwarrantedofpopulaceIEasteroidenroutetostation??MedEvacshuttlestoMoonorEarth?Backupplans,partsStrikeonEarthdeterspartstoIslandsiteeffectIslandlife.Earthpoliticsimpactinglaunches?NuclearwaronEarth&noHometogotoIFEvacstation.Impactontheeyesfromunfilteredbrightsunlight,priorcommitmenttostayingtherewithoutanout,missingaspectsofearthexperiencethatcannotbereplicated,riskstophysicalormentalhealth.
Iafraidiwouldfeelclaustrophobicbytime,thepeopleilovecouldprobablynotallcomewithme
None
Collectivecontrol.
Fewgoodwalks,potentiallyhavingtotelecommute.Asaphysicsperson,thisbasicallymeanshavingtodesignwebsites...notattractive.
NoneIamawareof.
cost
Smallnumberofpeopletointeractwith(I'masingleguywhowouldliketomeetagoodwomantolivewith).
Costandsmallcoummunity-whatwouldbestaff/crewtoresidence/guests-emergencyproceduresandliferaftactions/capacity-don'twantaTitanicevent
Theveryrealpossibilityofcatastrophe,andlivinginanoticeablyfinitespace.
Theisolation/risk.NotasmuchvarietyasEarth..
Beinginthesameplacewouldgetrepetitive.ItwouldremindmeofbeingaboardaNavyshipwithoutevertouchingaport.
Possibilityofcrowdingortooauthoritarian.
farfromhome-asinfamily..
ifthesettlementbreaksdownandpeoplediewithoutanychancetogetbacktoEarth
It'sclosed.
small
Theisolation.
NotwalkingthewildspacesofEarthanylonger
Thedistanceandcostoftravelling
Egosofinhabitants,peoplethinkingaboutthemselvesaboveallelse.Traveltoandfromsettlement.WatchingtheEarthflybyathighspeedmaytakesomegettingusedtoandmakemefeeluneasy.
BEINGINSPACE!!!
Risk,cost
LessDiversityofthings
Separationfromfamilymembers.
Theunknownisalwaysscary.Itsnotattractivetonotknowwhatyouwouldbegettinginto.Therearesomanyoutcomesthatcanresultfromthecreationandoperationofspacesettlement,whethertheyarepositiveor
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negativeeffects.
Thecost.
Liketoexplore,sowouldpreferaplanet-basedsettlementsuchastheMoonorMars,wherethereisroomandmysteriestoexplore.Confinementtojustasinglehabitatmighteventuallyreducetheelbowroom,thoughitisaverygoodstart.Ifitbecomesaportonthewaytoadventure,thenIamgame.Theimagesdonotdepictthepopulationdensity:noindicationofhousingfor500to1,000people,letalonetheindustryandagriculturenecessarytokeepiteconomicallyandecologicallyviable.Tolivetherestofmylifethere,Iwouldwanttohavemorethantheareaofasmallcollegecampustomovearoundin.Iwouldmisslakes,rivers,andtrulynaturalareas.Staticimagesalsocannotdepicttheweirdeffectsofartificialgravity.Whatarewegoingtobedoingupthere?Willtherotationmakemesickorcausevertigo?Ialsodon'twantittobelikeVirginGalacticwhereIhavetoforkoversignificantmoneyintheneartermandthenwaityearsandyearsforittoactuallyhappen.IthinkIwouldonlybuyaspotonKalpanaOneifitwaseitheralreadyupthereorabouttogoup.Ialsodon'tthinkthatlaunchvehiclesaresafeenoughyetformetotrustridingonetothesettlement.Thefactthatonlyafewthousandsofpeoplewillleavethereisleastattractive.Onewouldneverlovetospendtherestofhislifeinasmallclosedplacewithsolesspeople.
Probablytheprice,whichcanbeveryexpansive.
concernoversafety,expenseoftravelingtoplacesonEarth(includingphysicalpresenceatspaceconferences&workshops)
leavingourearth
Worriesoversystemfailuresandcomplicationsthatcanbeverydangerous.
Distancetovisitearthboundrelatives...determinationofcontrolformyexistence(WhatdoIdoduringtheday?)
Itisunclearifthefullsocial,culturalandentertainmentrequisiteshavebeenconsidered,andtheseitemswouldbeimportanttome.Cost,thoughifIwasthereasanemployeethatwouldradicallychangetheequation.I'dalsohaveaconcernaboutaccesstoemergencyservices.I'macryonicist,andIthinkthattherewouldbesignificantlogisticalchallengeswithrespecttotimelycryopreservation.EverythingshownsofarisabigplusinmyopinionandI'mhonestlystrugglingtofindtwothingsthatIdislikethoughtheLEASTattractivethingswouldhavetobepossiblygettingboredeventually,thoughthisiscompensatedbyhavinginternetandacontrollablelifestyleandthepricewhileanythingexpensivebeingreasonable,isstillsomethingthatwillmakepeopleshaketheirheadandturntheotherway.
Feelingisolated
Radiation,fearofspacedebris,distancefromrelatives,notbeingabletobeoutside
Limitationsofsupplies.(Sometimessupplyshipsexplodeorfailtolaunchontime.)
Leavingmycurrentfamilybehind.
Theideasoundsimpressivebut,canitbebuilttoday?Withourtechnology?Itseemslikethiswillhaveanextremelyhighcostandwilltakelongtobuild(longerthanitnormallywould)becausesomenewtechnologymustbedevelopedorevencreated.
Restrictionoftraveling.Notbeingabletofreelygotoplacesonearth
Necessarilylimitedextentoflivingarea.Also,noocean.:(
Nomotorcycles
Itwouldprobablytakesomegettinguseto,thefactthegroundisnotflat.ItissomethingIcouldgetusedto.Also
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recycledair,Ihopeitwontbehorriblelikeonabudgetjumbojet,sortofstale.
It.stoosmall.
Thatit'ssoclosetoEarthitbarelyqualifiesasbeinginspace.Iwouldmuchratherliveonanotherplanetentirely(likeMars).AnorbitalstationwouldalwaysneedtobesuppliedfromEarthbutacolonyonsomesuitableplanetcouldbeselfsustainingeventually(probablynotinmylife-time,butatleastitwouldbeastepintherightdirection).Infact,Iwouldenduremuchharsherconditionsandmakeaone-waytriptoliveonMars.
NA
CostoftravelbetweenKTandEarth
Thepossibilityforelitismisveryhigh.
n/a
Possibleisolationandlackofintellectualandphysicalactivity.
Toosmall
ThelocationinLEOdoesn'tseemquitethought-out.Thequickdescriptiondoesn'tmentiontheworkthatinhabitantswillbedoingtomaketheprettyimagesactuallybesomethingthatwillgetrequiredfunding.ThisisthedifferencebetweenthemovieElysium-aplacewhererichfolksgotodonothing-andTheHighFrontierConcept-whererealpeoplegotoworkonthingsthattheyfeelwillmakeadifferenceforallofhumanity,oratleastpaywellalongwithbeing"neat."ButIrealizethatgettingintorequiredrealitiesofengineeringandphysicsandplumbingandeconomicsisnotshownonthissinglepage.Safetyismyabsolutefirstconcern.Radiation,solarevents,spacedebrisandinfrastructuralfailures,areallpotentiallycatastrophicdangers.Thereislikelytobeastrugglebetweenmaintainingsafetyandsecurity,whilenotinfringingontherightsofresidentsthatalsoisveryconcerning.Andlastly,Idonotbelieveinternationallawandpoliciesadequatelysecuretherightsofit'sresidentsandprovidecompletelegitimacyandlegalrecognitionforsuchastation.
Costsandinabilitytoseefamily&friendsinperson.
Idon'tseeone.
Iwonderaboutthelong-termstabilityofthatorbit.
secondaryradiationfromgammaraysonmetalsoutdooractivities
none
Changingdegreesofweightlessness.
INGAJARAJ-ODISA:NASA2009(TopAward)wetoohavespokenaboutanddepictedacylinderasthelivingspaceandthestock&store.
thephysicalsize
Longdelaysinimportingnon-digitalobjects.
GettinghomesickbeingawayfrommyfamilyandtheplacewhereImadeallmymemories.
FanaticsofanystripegainingcontrolofKalpanaTwo.
havinglotoftrafficandsufferingpeople
1.Money2.Weather
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Theimminentdanger.
Thereisnothingthatisunattractiveaboutit.
Unlesstherearequiteafewofthem,andtheyareeasytovisit,thenit'sjusttoosmallformetolivetheretherestofmylife.Biospheresarebig.BackwhenIwasyoung,Iknewalmostnothingaboutbiologicalecologiesandindustrialinfrastructure,andassumedwecouldcurloffabiroftheearth'sbiologicallyactivesurface,wrapitinacontainermadeofspacematerials,andliveindependentlyinspace.I'velearnedalotmoreaboutnatureandbiologysincethen,mostimportantlyaboutthefragilityanddomainspecificityofthehumanbrain.We-thatistosay"ourminds"-willadaptourselvestospace.Firstthroughpredictive-adaptivetelepresence,thenthroughdirectbraininterfacetomuchlargerinterplanetarycomputernetworks.Butslowlyrottingmeatisnoenduringhomeforsemi-immortalintelligence.Aself-sustainingindustrialeconomyislargerthantheearthitself.Indeed,theentireEarthisnotbigenoughtosustainourcurrentindustrialeconomy,oranactivespaceprogram,formanymillenia,soweMUSTextendourmachinesandminds(thoughnotourbodies)intospaceforlongtermsurvival.Whenwehavetheindustrialcapabilitytocreateaplanetary-scaleecosystem,thenwecanconstructindependentandself-sustaininghomesforhuman1.0bodies.Longbeforethen,human2.0(probablynon-biological)willfillthisandotherstarsystemswithminds.Human1.0willbeanoptionalexperience,anexpensiveluxury.Iwishitwaseasytodosmallindependentecologiesandeconomies-butitisnot.EvenawholecountrylikeNorthKoreafailstosupportitselfeconomically,muchlessbiologically.IonlyneedtolookaroundtheroomIamsittingintorealizethatIamconnectedtoaneconomicmeshencirclingtheEarth,andlookinmytrashcantorealizethatmostcriticalresourcesmakeaonewaytripfromwater-chemistry-and-plate-tectonicsorebodiestolandfillsandtheoceanfloor.Iamconfidentthatwewillsomedaylearnhowtoconstructsubstratesforintelligenceusingthelimitedpaletteofelementsandcompoundswewillfindoff-earth,buttherearenotenoughoftherightmaterialsouttheretocreatesurvivable,independentenvironmentsforhuman1.0andthevastweboflifeformsthatsupportsuchfragilebiologicalentities.Ourmachinesarenodifferent-theredphosphorsofthisscreenuseeuropium,arareearthmineralfoundinkarstorebodies,formed(likesomanyotherorebodies)bygigayearsofhydrothermalchemistry.Willwefindsubstitutesforeuropium?Eventually-nanostructuredmaterialswiththesamebandgapandopticalnaturemayresultfromatomic-precisionmaterialassemblyandvastmaterialcomputation.Thesametechnologiesthatwewillusetorescueourmindsfromcentury-durationnon-repairablebiobrains.Someday,IhopetovisitthesurfaceofMars.Butthatwillbeinaveryaccuratecomputersimulation,eitherofMarshereorofmethere.Acenturyofuninformedsciencefictiontothecontrary,mymeatandthejourneytothatplanetareincompatible,biologically,technologically,andeconomically.BTW,readDavidMindell's"OurRobots,Ourselves"for/great/descriptionsofhuman-machinecollaborations.
Beingconfinedtoasmallerspacethanearth,lessenvironmentaldiversity
Lengthofsupplychains(costofgettingthingstoKalpana)
Radiation,destructionofthewholeconstructionduetoospacedebris.
Closedenvironment
Thehighcost.
isolated
Foratleastthenextfourcenturies,anyspacecolonywouldhavetohaveananaloguehereonEarthtosustainit.Youdidn'tmentionthat.nohorizon,butIcouldalwaysvisittheMoon.livinginKalpanawouldbelikelivinginthecityandgettingoutinthemountainswhenonvacationwhichissortofthewayIlivenowKalpanaTwoisjustasmallscalesystemcomparedtowhatwedoknowwecouldbuild.That'sabitdissapointingsomehow.Seeminglynoindustrialfacilities,thusthestationcannotexpanditself/buildfollow-up-stations.Alsoabitdissapointing.
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Likelyexpenseinvolved.Notbeingabletovisiteasily.
Costofshipping>:
HAvingaspaceboundarybutofcoursewecantwalkthroughspacesoidontconsiderKalpanaTwotofeaturelessatractivethings.
Theadaptationtothenewenvironment.
1.Theopenairfeelthatbarelycoversthefearthatdr.GerardK.O'Neill'sgradstudentswerewrongintheircalculations.Thiscylinderlooksmuchlikehisvision.2.Mylackofknowledgeofthemeanstoacceleratethecylinderinorbit.Isuggestanaxis(anextensionofthestraightlineradialfromearth's"center").Grabtheaxleandpushperpendicularlytoradial.3.HowisO2,N2,CO2achieved.
BeingStranded
Scarcepossibilitytotraveloutside
Safety.Largecostofspecificproduct/materialwhenbroughtfromEarth.Cutting(physical)interactionwitholdfriends.
Danger,riskofdeath,incrediblefinancialcostthatIsuspectwouldberequired.
Theknowledgethatsomepeoplewillcometopowerandturnevil.
Itprobablywon'tbearealityuntilafterIamgone.
Tobefarfromhome
theprice
Notbeingonearth.Youarejustinacylinderfloatingaroundtheplanet.
Travelcapabilitiestotherestoftheworld;radiationlevels(eveniflimited);closedboundaries(forincomingpeople)
Fearofmeteoritespuncturingtheouterhull.
Cost
Smallandconfined.Wouldmissnature.DifficultytotravelbackandforthbetweenitandEarthtoseefamily.
ClearviewofthecurvedspacesRestrictedExplorableAreaContinuousReminderof"AwayfromEarth"
confinedspace
uh?
Internetconnectionlag
Thesterileaspects-perfectlymanicuredgardens,lawns-likeanorbitingsuburbia.
Nocomment!
Thepopulationaroundme.IsuspectIwouldhavedifferingviewpointfrommostofthepeople.Cost.Isolationfromfamily.
Healthconsiderations
Thesmallsize.Ido,however,understandthatasmallsettlementisnessicarytobeginwith.
Unabletoleave,ifthecommunitydoesntfitorgetsbad.
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Beingawayfromfamilyandfriendsthataren'tthere.
Technologiesgainedandastepforward.
Iwouldthinkboredomwouldsetinovertime,whichiswhyIsaidIwouldgoforafewmonths
lackofdiversity,toosmall,emergenciesandnaturaldisasters/security
Thatitdoesn'talreadyexist/
Thisseemstobesoldasaplaygroundforthesuperrich.Iwouldnotwanttolivewithpeopleofleisurewhoarenotcommittedtoworkingtoexpandaccesstospace.
maybepersonalspace
Nothing.
lossofphysicalearthtraveland,ultimately,variety.
A55meterradiusand1ggravitymeansitrotatesevery15seconds,or4rpm,whichIthinkisalittlefastforcomfort.Asomewhatlowergravity-say,Marsgravity-mightbemorecomfortablefortheresidents.
Thesimplisticdesignseemstolackdiversityandthusbiologicalstability,itmakesmeabituncomfortable.
At64Iamprobablytooold
Corioliseffectmaybehardtogetusedto,threatofspacedebrisimpactorsomeothercatostrophe
Theleastattractiveaspectisthenotionofessentiallybeingstuckthereduetotheexpenseofleaving.
Politicalgovernance.Yourpictureistotallynaive.Itwouldrequireveryclearlawsandregulations,withbasicallyallinhabitantsservingaspartofthecrewinarelativelystrictcommandandcontrolsettingtobefair.Everyoneworksandgetsroughlyanequalshareortherewouldbedeepdiscord.Afterthecolonywasestablished,therewouldbedeepsocialtensionunfolding,unlesstheinhabitantsweredividedintocrewandpassengers.
Smalllivingarea,longandexpensivedistancefromfamilyandfriends
Thecostofgettingthere.Thecomplexityoflongtermmaintenance.
I'muncertainwhethersuchacontrolled(mall-like)environmentwouldbecometiresomeintheextremeafteraperiod,say,ofafewyears.Imightendupseekingamorenatural,ifmoreharsh,environmenteventually.
LeavingFriends
Faraway
TherealchancethatIwouldtakeoverthestationanddeclareitmyownpiratebay.
Possiblydyingbecauseof"spacestuff"(you,meteorites,spacetrash,etc.)
Notbeingabletosee/visitthingsandpeopleonEartheasily.
Thesheeramountofrawmaterialsrequiredtomachine/fabricatenewpartsonthegowillbedifficult.However,ifKalpanaTwoendsupbeingacolonythatthrivesonassistingtheminingofbrought-to-earthasteroidsforrawmaterial,thenthisshouldnotbeanissue.Foundries,machineshops,repairbaysandthelikeshouldbeprioritized.
vacuumoutside
Iimaginethedatingpoolwouldberathersmall.
thepotentiallyexpensivetripsbackandforthtoearth.howeverisuspect"100k+"isextremelyunrealisticespeciallygiventheenormouseffortandinfrastructurewe'vebuiltforthepurposesofsuburbancommutes.
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Notbeingabletodocertainthings--walkinaforest,hikeamountain,swiminalake,kajakariver,seewildanimalsintheirenvironment,walkonabeachwithsurfinyourearsandbodysurfwaves.Evenifincorporateditwouldbeartificial.
Abilitytovisitrelativeswhodon'tshipup.
smalltownmindset?
Lackofprivacy,closeproximitytoallotherresidents,susceptabilitytoauthoritatiancontrol
Abittoosmallforafullsizedflatsoccerpitch.Notlargeenoughpopulationforalargestudentpopulationandcommerciallydrivenpopulation.Wantthousandsofresidentsontopofathousandorsostudentsk-12andespeciallyUniversitylevel.
utterdependenceuponplanet-sideresources
Notbeingabletojuststepoutandenjoynatureandgoingforahike.
Lackoforexpensivetraveloptions,lackofrandomweather/seasons,potentialsocialproblemswithaclosedpopulation,whatformofgovernment?,whattiestoothercountries?SoundslikeanunstablechoiceforOrbitsothatitcanuselessradiationshielding,butthatmeanssolarstormswouldbelargervariables.TheideaofLagrangepointstationedcolonyandsimplybetterradiationshieldingsoundsmoreappealing.
HowmuchofyourwealthandfutureincomewouldyoubewillingtospendtoliveinKalpanaTwo?...
ThesmallandpossiblyafterawhileratherclaustrophobiclivingconditionsandthedetachmentfromthenaturalsurroundingsofEarth.
Thedangersaboutcrashes.
AspacewhereIcanlive.
ThecostofthejourneytoKalpanaTwo
Possibleclaustrophobia,threatsfrommicrometeors,radiation(atanylevel),andthemassivecost.
Spacelimit.
Dizziness.;-)Maybesomeclaustrophobia
Cost.Physicalseparationfromotherfamilymembers.Youwouldliketogovisityourmotherandthenreturnhome?Thatwillcostamerehalfmilliondollars.
Thelimitationsofnothavingcertainresourcesavailableimmediately.
Limitednumberofpeople,potentialLordoftheFliessituation
Radiationconcerns.
Possibledecompression
Expenseandlimitedlikelihoodofsuccess.
Beingstuckwithaverysmallgroupofpeople.
Travelcosts.Icanenvisageaone-offpaymenttomovepermanentlymyselfbutcouldnotaffordfrequentvisitstoEarthforholidaysnorcouldfriendsandfamilyaffordtovisit.Thereisalsotheriskofbecomingboredwiththeverylimitednumberofplaceseasilyvisited.Fulltimeworkwouldbeessential,evenwhenretired.
HARDTOVISITOTHERPLACES
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Enclosed
Itisaartificialhabitat.
Well,probablythenumperofpeople,buteverythingisaboutadaptationandtolerance
Thepricetagaswellasthelackofnature(notaplanet/moon).
Notmuchfreedomforexploringalotofplaces.
It'sinLEO,soit'snotagatewaytoanywhere.Itcouldalsobeatarget,shouldsomerogueregimedecidetotestit'ssatellitekillermissile.
CostoftraveltoEarthdestinationsandphysicalseparationfromextendedfamilyandfriends.
Nonereallt
thediversityoftheland,itisnotEARTH
Possiblynothavingmyfamilywithme.
Space,peace,introspection,discovering.
thesmallspace,inabilitytoescapewheneverIwant,dangerofsomecriticalmalfunction
Potentiallyjumpinginacarandgoingawayfroafewdays,itwontbeaseasyorcheaptodo.
Thesmallsize-ifforsomereasonthesocietyinspaceisnotexpandedwithmorepeoplemovingintomorehabitatsandlarger.
Thepotentialvulnerabilityduetoitssmallsize.
Thedownsidetothistypeofstructureisdefinitelythetimetomakeoperationalandrunningthisstation,thenyoucertainlyspeaksofafuturebetween50-100years,alsothehighcostsnecessarytocompletedefinitelyimposeexorbitantpricesforaccessthestructuretothepublic,unlessonewantstoaskthepublicanddonotkeepitinacontextreservedforscholarsandastronauts/scientists
gravity,recreation,food,socialising
claustrophobiccharacterofitsspace
I'dpreferalittlebigger.
GovernancenottiedtoEarth's
People:(
None
Thelackofproperamenitiesandtherisk.
Thefearofbeinginanclosedandverysmallenvironment.
It'stoosmall.Iamatraveller.There,iwon'tbeabletotravel.
Spaceconstraints.
Iwouldfeeltrapped,especiallyifitisveryexpensivetoleave.Ithinkitwouldbeagreatexperiencebutnotalifelongexperiencetome.
ThefactthatIcouldleavemyfamilyonEarth
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Thecosts,probablynotbeingabletoconvincemypartnertojoinme
Fragility.
probabilitytonotmeetanyfamilyinfriendsonEarthduringthestay(limitationofcommunicationstovideo/audioetc.)TolivewiththeriskthatsomethingbadcouldhappenandIplusfamilywillloseourlife,togetintoconflictswhicharebadlysolvable,tolifewiththefeelingthatthewhole"crew"isanexperimentandeverythingIamdoingisperhapsrecognisedbyagroundteam
Expenses
Expenseoftripsdown
Leisure,I'maworkhorse
Highcostofliving.Safety.
Lackoffreshairandnature.
Lackofpristinenatureforrecreationsuchasskiingandsailing
TheproximitytoEarthwouldactuallyberatherunattractivetome.Atonlyafewhundredmiles,spacejunkwouldbeworrisome,ifnotdeadly.
Thepriceoftravellingbackandforthfromearth.
fearofcabinfever
Noobviousviewingareasofearthorspace;mainreasonforlivinginspaceistobeinspace
OuterSpaceandlivingspace.Cost.
Cost.Honestly;withfallingincomesoverthepast3decades,it'sreallynotatallviable.
smallspace,looksthesameeveryday
beingoffworld,family/friends.
Costoftravel,dependenceuponartificialsystemstosupportlife.
size
Iwanttomovearoundmore.
Idon'tknowofanysinceIhavenotlivedthereyet;-)
It'snotonEarth.
itisnotearth....
There'snoocean,butthatcan'treallybehelped,mn?
Mightfeelconfinedafterawhile
limitedspaceandinabilitytogetout.whyhangoutinatincanwithoutaccesstoanything?
Distancefromfamily.
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TouristandConsumerfocusedvsScientificendeavour
Isolationfromfriends/family.Cost.
Forcedtoliveaparticularlifestyle.
Sizelimitations.Thenagain,therewouldbeseveraloftheseTorustypehabitats.Oh,andthelackofnationalparks,andancientssitestoexplore.
smallspace
Costs
Possiblycrampedlivingconditionsandlackofspace.
thinlayerofmanmadematerialbetweenyouratmosphereandavacuum
dependingonyourneighbors,andthelengthoftimelivingonboard,onemightwishtoseesomenewfaces.alsomanywillmisspeoplebackonearth.althoughgoodvirtualrealitydevicesandfastbroadbandwouldhelpwiththese.also,thedietonboardmaybelimited,andtakesomegettingusedto.
thedimension////Ithinkissmall
Leastattractivewouldlikelybetheamountofpeoplethatwouldoccupythesmallspace.
beingstuckthere(thedifficultyofactualcontactwithrealpeopleandnaturalecosystemsonEarth)
isolationandadictatorshiptypeofgoverment
Rotationalspeedrequiredtoachieve1Gatd=110mmayactuallyprecludehavingaviewofEarth.EvenifyouplacedtheaxisofrotationperpendiculartoEarth,havingagiantspinningviewofitcouldbedisorienting.Fullgravity(toomuch)&Corioliseffects(toosmallastructure).Highriskofstructuralcompromiseorfailure(consequencessevere!).
Dangerofspacestationlosingintegrity/lifesupportability.
Thatitwouldbeanewpieceoftechnology,andasaresultmightbemoresusceptibletotechnicalglitchesthatcouldresultinpotentiallyfatalcircumstancesforresidents.
allthepossibleaccident…micrometeorites,perhapsradiation
Traveltime.
Willtherebepets?NohorsestorideIassume.
Le`avingmyfamily
Itwillbefullyexplored.Webuiltit;weknowit.
Limitedspace.Forcedtobeprojectedtothoseconditions.Spaceisdeadly.Spaceisscary.Itcouldbehandledsafelyandeasilywiththeproperwork,buttheanxietywouldtakeawhiletogetover.
PossiblemissedfamilyeventsandmilestonesonEarth.
Costofreturntoearth.
possiblecrowding
Wealthrequirements.
Beingawayfromhome??BeingawayfromEarth??Family??Honestly,I'mnotsurehowI'drespondtoitall.It'dbeinteresting.I'dprobablybesoexcited,I'dforgetallofthat.Intheend,Ireallydon'tthinkitwouldn'tphasemetoo
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oddhorizons
noAmazonPrime,cost
ExpensivetravelbetweenKalpanaTwoandEarth.Absenceofscientificexplorationinspace.
Separationfromextendedfamilywhowouldchosenottolivethere-thedifficultyandexpenseofnavigatingEarth'sgravitywell.
Ifitisanythinglikeyourconceptart,therewillnotbemuchdiversitygoingonupthere.
Possiblelackofabackgroundcheckonapplicants
Theunknowndangersthatspacemayentail.
Size
Untestedtechnology
costandlimitationsoffoodvarietyandothernecessitylimitations
Physicallyitisfartoosmall.Theidealwouldbeasettlementataboutthesameorbitalaltitudebut1000mdiameter.(IamsurprisedbythespecificdimensionsofKalpanatwo.IhavereadtheKalpanaonedocumentanditsuggeststhattobestaticallystablethelengthcanbenomorethan1.3r.)
LivingawayfromEarthinanartificial"bubble"
NoTacoBell.
Theadjustmentandthedistancefrommyson,ifhedidn'tjoinme.
Notfindingmysoulmate
Expenseoftravel.
None.
Hullbreaches;coronalmassejections
-ThetaskofsayingamoreorlesspermanentgoodbyetoEarth.-Thepossibilityofsystemsfailure.
Um...itwouldbeself-governing?Thatsoundslikeanightmare.Whathappenswhensomeonegetsmurdered?Areallthesuspectsflownbacktoearthfortrial?Whopaysforthat?Whatearthgovernmentsdoweinteractwith?Couldothercountriesgetmadatourhostcountry,andtakeitoutonthembyblowingusup?Also:itishardtoimagineaspacenotfeelingclaustrophobicafteramonth.WherewouldIgoforvacation?IfIgetdivorced(notthatIpersonallyanticipatethis):)Ican'tmovetoanotherstate.Also:thelackofdiversity.Imeanallthearchitectureandobjectswouldbesimilarlymanufactured.Therewouldbenothingthatfeltancient.
Also...space(vacuumsarescarrrry).
Nothing
nowifi?
ThecosttoflybacktoEarth
Notbeingabletoreturntoearthatleastonceayear.Thefactthatitwouldapparentlybeapaytogetinasopposedtogetintoearnalivingandworkasaproductivememberofacommunity.
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Beingawayfromfamilyandfriends.
therearenonsofar
mustfirsttryit,beforejudgingit
ThecostandtheseparationfromEarth.AllvacationsonEarthwouldbeexpensive.
It'snotMars
Difficultyvacationing"offhab".IfatleastyearlytransittoandfromEarthwereaffordable,Iwouldhavenoproblemlivingthereforever.benefitsofaginginspace.scienceopertunitys,designopertunitys,beigabletoexplorespaceeasilyfromhome,withoutexpensiveoutmodedrockets.Smalldiametercurvedenvironment.AdjustmenttoCorioliseffects.Cutofffromearthsurfacetravelingopportunities.Highcostofgettingthereandrevisitingearthsurface.
RadiationandHardVacuum.Adaptingto.5g.
lacktheabilitytoexploreandtravel
Otherpeopleandgovernments
PossibilityofhighcostoftraveltoEarth'ssurface
Dangerofcollisionsandperhapsinsufficientprivacy.
Notbeingabletovisitothercitieseasily.
whataboutmedicalcare..AlsowhataboutifonaDisabilitypensionhowwouldonemakeanincome?AlsowhataboutDiabetics?sorryhadtoaddthatinnevergotananswerfromNASA.
Transportcosts.
Safety.Security.
Space
Isolationifcommsgodown,internalstrifeoverissueonEarth,seemovie2010,CUToff,noescapebacktoEarthorLunarbase.partstorepair,replacesystemsunlessproduceonsite3D.
Traveltoanywhereisnoteasy.
Livingspacewillbetightandweallwillberesponsibleforkeepingthehabitatoperationalandsafeandsomefolkswillshirktheirdutyandlet"Theotherguyworryaboutthat."
BeinglimitedtoonlyorbitingtheEarth
isolatedcommunitiestendtoregress,peopleplayingpoliticsforpowerandinfluence.
LeavingmyfamilybehindTheinevitablehomesickness
Leavingfamilyandfriends.Theinherentdangerinthisfragileenvironment.
Spaceavailable,possiblenoise,lackofchoiceofenvironment(notsure)
RegularaccesstoEarthplanetsidecouldbeaconcern.ItwouldbenicetovacationdownonEarthwithmyfamily.
IthasrisksandmaynotbeasinterestingaslifeonEarth.Beingabletointeractwithmygrandkids[otherthanviaskype]whiletheygrowup.IwroteapaperonthisfortheAmericanJournalofPhysics,basedonG.K.O'Neill'sideas.
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Givingupalltheworld'sparks,oceans,rivers,lakes,and,even,changingweather.Limitedcontactwithextendedfamily.
engineeredecosystem,whatifsomethinggoeswrong?
Confinementandsafety
Radiationexposure
None
Livingawayfrommyrelativesandmyfriends.ItisyourdealbreakerifthereisnotatleastFullbodyvideopictureLovemyfamilyavailableatanytimeIseefittocallthenvem
Thepossibilityofadistopiandictatortakingcontrol,probablythearchitectthatbuiltthething.
Potentialcost
ConfinementUnknowndangers
Confinement
ThelongtripbacktoEart,andit'sprice.Butconsideringthedegreeofdevelopmentit'simpossibletoconsideritanimpediment.
livingcosts
thecostoftransportation
Thecostofgettingthereandespeciallyleavingit.
None.
It'shighlyriskyandasofyet,untested.Whilepeoplehavebeenliving/workinginspaceforsometimenow,thedurationisshortandthenumberofpeopleinvolvedissmall.Therehasneverbeenasignificantnumberofpeoplespendingthemajorityoftheirlifeinspace.Theremaybephysicalandphysiologicaleffectsthatweareasofyetunawareof.Thatbeingsaid,someonehastogofirst.
size
Thecostofgoingtoandleavingisratherexpensive.So,dependingontheeventualpopulation,thelimitationof"...residentswouldhaveunprecedentedcontrolovertheirlifestyles:whowilljointhecommunity..."wouldbeanegativewithme.Governing,"citizenship",ruleoflaw,etc.mightbeevenharderproblemstoaddressthantacklingthetechnologytomakethiswork.
Cosmicraysandmeteorites!
Expense...that'sit,andthatwillbemanageableformebythetimeitisfinished.
Largerriskofdisaster,reach-ability,noticeablerotationalspin.Acertainlimitorinstructiononwhatyoucanandcan'tdo.IwouldmissmybicycleridestooohandDHLdeliveries...
None.
Death
Thereisnosuchaspect!
Itslocation
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Riskofcatastrophicfailure,potentialnegativehealtheffects.
Therelativelysmallsizeandlimitedopportunitiesforexperiencesoutsidethatenvironment.
Extremelysmallspace,curvatureofthestationitself,expenseofgettingtoandfromEarth.
Familyandfriendsleftbehind
Smallersizewilllenditselftothat"islandfever"feeling.
nomountains,perhapsminimalnature,girlfrienddoesn'twanttogo
payingmoney.Waitingforit
Gettingboredafterawhile,bothpersonallyandacrossallofthepopulation.Everyoneneedstobeinvolvedinthecreationandmaintenanceofittobefullyinvestedandfeelindividualownershipandequityinit.Thatwillhelpcreateamorestablesocialenvironment.Andalsotokeeppeoplebusy.
Theexpectationthattherewouldbeoutagesofvarioussortsandthedifficultiesasaresult.
Withoutavailabilityofrawmaterialstomakethingsandsupportanindustrialbase,itfeelsmorelikeanoutpostthanarealsettlement,nomatterhowmanypeoplearethere.WithoutanindustrialbaseIwouldfeelconcernedthatmykidshadnofuturethere.
Healthaspects,gforcesandradiationetc.
Costoftransportationtoandfromearth...makesandearthsidevacationabitonthespendyside.
thenegativeeffectsofmicrogravityonmyhealth
significantcurvatureoflivingspace
Losingtheabilitytotravelsoeasilyfromplacetoplace.
Iwillbelongdeadbeforeyoubuildit.
Isolation.Fearofclaustrophobia.
1.Inequatorialorbit,youareoveropenocean70%ofthetime.Boring.Theviewfromaninclinedorbitcanbemuchmoreinteresting.2.Thegeomagneticfieldisdisintegrating.Thelasttimethishappened(theLaschampsexcursion,40,000yearsago)thefieldfellto5%ofitsnormalvalue.Thenorthmagneticdippoleismovingsouthjustasfastasitdidinthatevent.Atitspresentrateofexpansion,theSouthAtlanticAnomalywillcovertheSouthernHemisphereby2050.KalpanaIIwillneedshielding(waterfromancometorasteroid?),soitmightaswellbeinaninclinedorbit.
Theinabilitytoaccessopenspacessuchasmountainsandforests.
Confining.
Niceidea,butitneedstobepartofalargercolonizationeffort.Spacewasstartingtobeabletopayforitselfandbecomeanewfrontierbutwegaveuptoosoon.IworkedattheJohnsonSpaceCenterwhenNASAwastryingtoplaydownthespaceprogramwiththeshuttlemissions.Weneedtofocusondevelopingthemoonfirst.Itisintherightspot,hasashallowgravitywell,andhasallofthemineralsweneedtogetouttospaceandbeginthenextexpansion.Withthemoondeveloped,manylessonswillbelearnedandthelikelihoodofyourhabitatbecomesfarmorelikely.YouwillnevergetenoughmaterialoutoftheEarthgravitywell,waytooexpensive.
Itsoundscontrolling
Fragility
Beinginspaceandnotbeingabletoleaveasneeded.
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Mostlytheexpense,andmyage(I'm53)Ifthisbecomesanoptionforretirement(Ipresumeit'satleast10yearsaway)Iwouldstillbeinterested,butobviouslymyviabilityasaworkerwillbediminishedasagetakesitstoll.Ifitdoesn'tproduceandexportanything,howcanitbeeconomicallyviableasacommunity?Andhowboringwoulditbetonothaveusefulandproductiveworksatisfyingcustomers?Atminimum,itshouldserveasaresearchcommunityand/ortransferport.Also,emulatingEarthg(andpresumablysealevelpsi)causeshighermaintenanceeffortandcost.
TooSmall.
Lackofdiversity(judgingfromtheserenderings)
DependingonEarthforalmosteverymaterialitem
None
variousdangersinaspacerelatedenvirnment
None,unlessIhadtoleavefamilybehind.
HostingpeoplefromEarthmightbeatightsqueeze.
ProhibitiveexpenseofreturningtoEarth
DutyFreegiftshops.
Thathorizoncurveisawfullytight.Thatwouldtakealotofgettingusedto.
distancefromthefamily
Unabletoaffordtogobackhomeevenforavisit
Smallandhardtoleave