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How Marketing Automation And CRM Integration Can Improve Sales And Marketing Collaboration
MARCH 21 , 2016
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Justin Sharaf DIRECTOR, MARKETING OPERATIONS, LOGMEIN
JUSTIN.SHARAF@GMAIL .COM
@BABBLNBOSTONIAN
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What people say in Public about Marketing and Sales Collaboration…
“Marketing does a great job providing us with high quality leads.”
“Sales does a fantastic job managing pipeline. We always know the status of the big deals.”
“Marketing provides fantastic support of our Sales team. Whatever we need, they have it ready for us.”
“We can track everything we’re doing and know exactly what’s working and what’s not.”
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What people say in Private about Marketing and Sales Collaboration…
“Lead quality is terrible. All I get is junk. Most of the phone numbers are fake.”
“Let me sell. I’d go to President’s Club every year!”
“Sales never follows up on their leads. Then they complain about not having enough.”
“Marketing has no idea about what’s working and what’s not. There is no reporting or analysis on any campaigns.”
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What should be this…
Image from: http://www.leadformix.com/blog/2010/11/is-sales-a-mere-bystander-in-marketing-automation/
Is really this…
Image from: http://www.sodahead.com/living/arguments-between-two-people/question-4324871/
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LogMeIn : Jan 2014
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Positives
Marketing Automation (Silverpop) and CRM (Salesforce) in place
Marketing and Sales had realistic understanding of current state
Recognition and awareness of need for change from management
Enterprise Sales and BI tools in place (InsideSales.com, GoodData, etc)
Negatives
Dirty Data in Salesforce (duplicate records + only 20% synced to Silverpop)
No repeatable Sales cadence and SLAs for lead/opportunity follow-up
Limited Marketing Tracking and Reporting
No accountability or standardization around priorities
Marketing and Sales had “arms-length” relationship
Very basic lead scoring models
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LogMeIn : March 2014
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The Decision: LFRA
Lead
Flow
Re - Architecture
Goals: • De-dupe Salesforce
• Streamline the way that Marketing sends leads to Sales
• Move all Lead Scoring into Silverpop. Make marketing accountable.
• Improved reporting on marketing campaigns and funnel conversions
• Provide Sales with better tools and processes to sell
• High-quality and digestible information to Sales reps. Not just high quantity of information
• Collection and management of organic product interest
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First Steps: Alignment and Leadership buy-in
• Identify Core Project Team
• Established Mission Statement
• Meet with Sales/Marketing stakeholders
• Nominate LFRA Sales “Champions”
• Present Project Plans
• Weekly Meetings
• Communicate, Communicate, Communicate.
Image from: https://blindpasses.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/project-management-and-the-emotional-buy-in-part-i/buy-in/
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Next Steps: Outline the ideal process
• No process is perfect. Build what’s right for you
• Trial and error. Trial and error. Trial and error. Trial and error
• Feedback from Sales and Marketing leaders is important, but BUY-IN from individual sales reps is vital
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Are they linked to existing
open Opp?
Process Flow Product Usage
Campaign Response Trials
Contact Exists?
Scoring & Interest
Create New Lead
Yes Opty
exists for Product
on account?
No
Associate Contact Interest to Existing Opportunity
Notify Sales Rep
Create New Opportunity (Stage 0)
Lead Exists?
Update Existing Lead
Update Existing Opportunity
No
Yes Yes
No
Yes No
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Cleaning the CRM system Strategic decision made to purge inactive data from Salesforce. We believed that any inactive prospects, if worth calling into, would bubble up in Silverpop and sync back to Salesforce using new process
Results – Purged 4.5million lead records (many duplicates) – Merged 100k leads into existing contacts – Purged 400k contacts – Purged 400k accounts – Purged 700k cases
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LogMeIn : Nov 17, 2014
C-Level “approved” date
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Roll-out • Long migration to sync records from Salesforce to
Silverpop (5M+). Extremely important!
• Built everything in Silverpop and Salesforce sandboxes for testing and QA
• Shut down Salesforce for 2-3 days to roll out code
• 11/17–11/24 were considered “Dead days” where data/reports are unusable
• Dozens of interactive and collaborative training sessions for Sales and Marketing
• Chatter support by project team Image from: http://www.bigducknyc.com/three-tips-to-rollout-your-new-brand
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LogMeIn : Current State
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Reporting and Monitoring
• On Time Follow-up (OTFU) % measured for all Sales Reps
• Manager Pipeline reporting
• MQLs and pipeline goals and actuals measured by Product/Geo/Team
• Comprehensive Campaign Reporting
• Sync Status Dashboard
• Non-MQL “Interest” for Sales (ex: Support passes, call campaigns, website chats)
• Infrastructure for Attribution Models
• Chatter groups created for Sales questions and marketing communications
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Current Landscape
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Challenges and Learnings
• Enablement – training of new employees
• Too much visibility into the details
• Creating goals changed behaviors (focused on MQLs instead of Pipeline/Revenue)
• Shift from quantity to quality created some uneasiness
• Poor leftover processes prevented a clean break from Before/After. Hurt us from an adoption perspective
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Challenges and Learnings
• Gamifying OTFU led to positive Rep behavior change
• Manager dashboards and report cards in Salesforce and GoodData hold Reps accountable
• Recognized that MQL targets were not correct approach for Field Sales. Focus now on Pipeline
• Infrastructure allows for test, learn, adjust environment
• Communication, feedback, buy-in were key pieces for successful implementation
• Chatter proved to be most effective feedback channel
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Next Steps
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Post Mortem
• Well-oiled machine
• Foundation/architecture in place to support where we are now, and where we want to go
• Integrated acquired company (LastPass) seamlessly
• Attribution models in beta stages
• In an ever changing environment and technology world, we haven’t been required to make any foundational changes in 18 months
• Constantly receiving feedback and making enhancements
• Sales and Marketing relationship is better than ever
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Thank you JUSTIN SHARAF, DIRECTOR, MARKETING OPERATIONS, LOGMEIN
JUSTIN.SHARAF@GMAIL .COM
@BABBLNBOSTONIAN
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