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4198 Housing Oommission. [COUNCIL.] Universities. iIltgi.alntint Q!uun!il. Thursday, April 30, 1964. The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett) took the chair at 11.1 a.m., and read the prayer. HOUSING COMMISSION. ACQUISITION OF LAND IN BROADMEADOWS. The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) asked the Minister of Housing- What are the details of the 27 lots of land acquired by the Housing Commission in the City of Broadmeadows since 1st June" 1955, and referred to in the answer to ques- tion No.2 in the House on 29th April, 1964? The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing).-The answer is- Lot 937-Bamburgh-street. Lot 1069-Broadmeadows-road. Lot lO71-Broadmeadows-road. Lots 283-284-Broadmeadows-road. Lots 149-153-Station-street, south. Lot 9-Railway-crescent. Lots 1, 2 and 3-Railway-crescent. Lots 7 and 8-Watson-street and part of land in Certificate of Title, volume 7894, folio 028 in King Albert-street. Lots 677 to 682 and lots 689 to 692- King-street.-Purchased at the suggestion of Broadmeadows City Council. The basic aim for making these purchases was to consolidate property already acquired in order to enable more efficient town plan- ning of the whole area. RAILWAY DEPARTMENT. SPENCER-STREET RAILWAY STATION: COSTS: MAIELLA CONSTRUCTION COMPANY PROPRIETARY LIMITED. The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province) asked the Minister of Agriculture- (a) What was the amount of the tender lodged by Maiella Construction Company Proprietary Limited and accepted for the construction of· the Spencer-street railway station? (b) What is the actual construction cost to date? (c) Who will meet the difference between the original tender price and the final cost? The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER (Minister of Agriculture) .- The answer is- (a) £997,000. (b) About £851,000. (c) The work specified in the original contract has not yet been completed, and it is expected that the total amount in- volved for such work will not exceed the sum of £997,000. UNIVERSITIES. LIBRARIES: GRANTS. The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) asked the Minister of Agriculture- (a) Are economies under consideration affecting the library at the University of Melbourne to the effect that no more multiple copies of books and no new journals will be purchased, also no text- books will be purchased where the costs exceed £5 a book? (b) What was the library grant for each of the years from 1958 to date for- (1) University of Melbourne; (2) Monash University? The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER (Minister of Agriculture) .- The answers are- (a) Yes; as a temporary measure only. The University Council has been requested to provide further funds. (b) The following sums have been pro- vided by the councils of the two univer- sities respectively- Melbourne. Monash. -- Books and Books and - PUbli- Salaries. Publi- Salaries. cations, cations, I &c. &c. £ £ £ £ 1958 .. 45,000 48,000 .. .. 1959 .. 45,000 68,000 .. .. 1960 .. 56,000 85,000 .. .. 1961 .. 65,000 90,000 139,285 30,388 1962 .. 75,000 100,000 71,895 38,279 1963 .. 75,000 100,000 122,613 45,687 1964 .. 75,000 100,000 138,000 87,000

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iIltgi.alntint Q!uun!il.

Thursday, April 30, 1964.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett) took the chair at 11.1 a.m., and read the prayer.

HOUSING COMMISSION. ACQUISITION OF LAND IN

BROADMEADOWS.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) asked the Minister of Housing-

What are the details of the 27 lots of land acquired by the Housing Commission in the City of Broadmeadows since 1st June" 1955, and referred to in the answer to ques­tion No.2 in the House on 29th April, 1964?

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing).-The answer is-

Lot 937-Bamburgh-street. Lot 1069-Broadmeadows-road. Lot lO71-Broadmeadows-road. Lots 283-284-Broadmeadows-road. Lots 149-153-Station-street, south. Lot 9-Railway-crescent. Lots 1, 2 and 3-Railway-crescent. Lots 7 and 8-Watson-street and part of

land in Certificate of Title, volume 7894, folio 028 in King Albert-street.

Lots 677 to 682 and lots 689 to 692-King-street.-Purchased at the suggestion of Broadmeadows City Council.

The basic aim for making these purchases was to consolidate property already acquired in order to enable more efficient town plan­ning of the whole area.

RAILWAY DEPARTMENT. SPENCER-STREET RAILWAY STATION:

COSTS: MAIELLA CONSTRUCTION COMPANY PROPRIETARY LIMITED.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province) asked

the Minister of Agriculture-(a) What was the amount of the tender

lodged by Maiella Construction Company Proprietary Limited and accepted for the construction of· the Spencer-street railway station?

(b) What is the actual construction cost to date?

(c) Who will meet the difference between the original tender price and the final cost?

The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER (Minister of Agriculture) .-The answer is-

(a) £997,000.

(b) About £851,000. (c) The work specified in the original

contract has not yet been completed, and it is expected that the total amount in­volved for such work will not exceed the sum of £997,000.

UNIVERSITIES. LIBRARIES: GRANTS.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) asked the Minister of Agriculture-

(a) Are economies under consideration affecting the library at the University of Melbourne to the effect that no more multiple copies of books and no new journals will be purchased, also no text­books will be purchased where the costs exceed £5 a book?

(b) What was the library grant for each of the years from 1958 to date for-

(1) University of Melbourne; (2) Monash University?

The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER (Minister of Agriculture) .-The answers are-

(a) Yes; as a temporary measure only. The University Council has been requested to provide further funds.

(b) The following sums have been pro­vided by the councils of the two univer­sities respectively-

Melbourne. Monash. --

Books and Books and - PUbli- Salaries. Publi- Salaries.

cations, cations, I &c. &c.

£ £ £ £

1958 .. 45,000 48,000 .. .. 1959 .. 45,000 68,000 .. .. 1960 .. 56,000 85,000 .. .. 1961 .. 65,000 90,000 139,285 30,388 1962 .. 75,000 100,000 71,895 38,279 1963 .. 75,000 100,000 122,613 45,687 1964 .. 75,000 100,000 138,000 87,000

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BENDIGO GAOL ESCAPEES. POLICE SEARCH: MAN-HOURS AND

COST.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province) (By leave) .-On 7th April last, I asked a question concern­ing the cost involved in connexion with the recapture of prisoners who had escaped from Bendigo Gaol but, at the time, the Minister of Agri­culture was unable to supply the answer. Yesterday, the honorable gentleman handed me the requisite information, which I should like in­cluded in Hansard. The Minister did not answer my question completely, because I sought the total cost, whereas the reply which has been furnished represents the total esti­mated cost, excluding salaries of the police engaged in the search. The reply indicates that, exclusive of salaries, the total estimated cost was £3,508, which is comprised as follows:-

(a) Estimated cost of operating de­partmental vehicles (38,047

£

miles at 5d. per mile) 793 (b) Amount paid to police for use

of their privately owned vehicles .. 804

(c) Travelling and meal allowances paid to members of the Force and police tracker .. 1,751

(d) Dry cleaning and cost of repair to damaged clothing 9

(e) Bus and car hire 85 (f) Cost of light refreshments pro-

vided from police mobile canteen to members engaged in search . 66

3,508

The number of man-hours engaged in the search was 11,678. At a con­servative estimate, I should think this would involve expenditure of an addi­tional £8,000, making the total cost of the search nearer to £12,000 than £3,508. I feel that when a member asks a question seeking certain de­tailed information, the requisite in­formation should be supplied as requested.

PUBLIC SERVICE (AMENDMENT) BILL.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing) .-1 move-

That this Bill be now read a second time.

The notes circulated to honorable members begin with the phrase " Fundamentally this is a simple Bill." Members of another place seemed to get a little mixed up last night with their fundamentals, and I trust that we shall not have similar difficulties in this House.

The basic aim of this Bill is to lay down certain principles concerning the authority of the Government, of Parliament and of the Public Service Board in questions affecting the employment of the Public Service, using that term in its broadest sense. Because of the differing nature of the various clauses, I shall proceed im­mediately to deal with them one by one.

Clause 2 deals with a rather unusual matter. Through the years, the Public Service Board and the Teachers Tribunal have functioned effectively, although under a liability, which could cause trouble but which as yet has not done so. The liability is that there has been provision for replacement of the elected member in the event of a vacancy occurring but no provision for replacement of the deputy elected member. I understand that not long ago there was some worry when Mr. Rogan, who was then the deputy elected member, received promotion in the Department of Health. All this clause does is to make provision for a special election to be held, if neces­sary, to fill an extraordinary vacancy in the case of the deputy elected member.

Clause 3 deals with a procedural matter. The principal Act is to be amended to make it unnecessary for the Public Service Board to keep detailed records of the salary in­creases of members of the profes­sional division. The Board regards the work as unnecessary and achiev­ing no good purpose. In future,

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Departments will keep these records and, if required, they can be called upon by the Board.

Clause 4, which proposes a new section 33 of the principal Act, merely restores a position that existed before the year 1946 with regard to appointments to the Public Service and to probationary service. This has been included on the recom­mendation of the Board. When the Act was amended in 1946, this pro­vision was inadvertently omitted. The Board has been working on the same principles throughout, and believes it desirable that the practice should be validated beyond doubt.

Clause 5 is the major clause of the Bill, inasmuch as it proposes that the Public Service Board shall be given the right to determine questions of recreational leave. At present, the Board may do certain things with the approval of the Governor in Council and certain other things on its own initiative.

The Government believes that, as the Board already has the right to make determinations with relation to examination of applicants for admis­sion to the Public Service, and, pay­ment of salaries and wages, it is logical that it should be given responsibility to deal with matters of recreational leave, sick leave, leave for defence training and leave for the pursuit of academic studies. Clause 5 does just this. Queensland has adopted a similar procedure. In that State, a Public Service Commission has the responsibility of determining the amount of recreational leave that members of the Public Service shall receive.

The notes circulated to members are complicated because of continual cross-references to the Mental Health Act, the Teaching Service Act and the Police Regulation Board. The object of the Government is to make similar conditions apply to members of the Public Service pure and simple, the Teaching Service, the police and persons covered by the provisions of the Mental Health Act.

The Hon. L. H. S. Thompson.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.­Would it be true to say that the Government is passing the buck?

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­Because the Public Service Board already has the power to decide questions of salaries, wages, condi­tions of service and conditions of en­try, I think it is logical that it should be empowered to determine recrea­tional leave. It seems to be rather piecemeal and illogical that in one case the Governor in Council should have the say, that in another case Parliament should have the say, and that in still another case that the Public Service Board should be the de­termining authority. We are trying to place the matter on a logical, clear­cut basis by stating, in effect, to the Public Service Board, "As you already have the power to determine wages, salaries and conditions of entry to the Service, and so forth, you shall also have the responsibility to determine what recreational leave shall be taken." So far as I can ascertain, all the odier Parlia­ments of Australia have reserved to themselves the right to determine long service leave, which is in a different category from other types of leave.

Section 48 of the principal Act is repealed by clause 6. This section merely requires the permission of the Public Service Board for the working of overtime. This provision was introduced during the war years when overtime was worked to a large extent. Since then, most Departments have consistently worked a degree of overtime, and it is now considered unnecessary for the Public Service Board to give permission for any particular Depart­ment to work overtime. In the future, the procedure will be that the departmental head will be responsible for authorizing the working of over­time, and will have authority to grant allowances according to scales pre­scribed by the Board. In addition to the annual departmental returns of expenditure on overtime, parti­culars of which are included in the

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Board's annual report, quarterly re­turns from Departments of all over­time allowances authorized, and the reasons why overtime work was necessary, will be lodged with the Board.

Clause 8 relates to offences by offi­cers. In the case of the Teaching Service and the Public Service, when ap.. officer is charged with an offence or misdemeanour that is not tried in the courts, the practice has been for that officer to be automatically suspended pending the hearing of the charge and the submission of a re­port to the Minister. The Victorian Teachers Union and the Public Service Association have requested that, in the future it should be optional for the officer concerned to be sus­pended. The Government feels that this request is not unreasonable. Therefore, it has been decided to amend the provision that states the Minister "shall suspend" an officer from duty to "may suspend" him. At the same time, the opportunity is taken to revise the fines which may be imposed on members of these two services and the other services that are dealt with in the Bill, such as those serving under the Mental Health Act, in view of the fact that they have not been changed for the past 50 years. It will be noted that in sub-clause (2) of clause 8, the maximum is being increased from £5 to £25 where a departmental head imposes a fine and that, where the Public Service Board or the Teachers Tribunal imposes a fine. the maxi­mum is being raised from £25 to £100.

Clause 9 deals with the question of long service leave. The provisions contained in this clause are the result of a request by the Public Service Association, and they win render it possible for an officer to take four and a half months' long service leave after fifteen years' service, whereas in the past it has been necessary for an officer to complete twenty years' service before becoming eligible for six months' leave. There are many officers, particularly among those

serving in the Teaching Service, who desire to take some long service leave at an early stage for the pur­pose of furthering their experience by means of a trip overseas. Under clause 9, those officers will be en­abled to take four and a half months' long service leave after fifteen years' service.

The Han. J. M. TRIPOVICH.­Will this be regarded as a precedent for other public servants, such as those who work in the railways?

The Han. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­That could well be the case. Generally speaking, once the Public Service Board sets a lead in such matters it is followed by other tri­bunals. We feel that this is a worth­while move.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.­An alteration of principle is involved in granting four and a half months' leave after fifteen years' service instead of six months' leave after twenty years' service.

The Han. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­That is so, and I think it is a step in the right direction.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.­I should like to see it made three months' leave after ten years' service.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­That stage may well be reached in the near future. Twenty years is a long period for an officer to wait, particu­larly in the case of teachers, many of whom wish to make a trip overseas at an earlier point of time for the pur­pose of studying educational tech­niques and modern developments in other countries of the world. The Public Service Association has asked for this alteration, and I think it is a commendable step in the right direc­tion.

The Han. ARCHIBALD TODD.-If this principle is extended to the Railways Service, not many railway workers will be able to take long service leave at an earlier stage on their present wages.

The Han. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­In these days of increasing pros­perity, it will not be long before

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they will be able to do so, so long as the electors return the right party to power at the forthcoming elec­tions. I am of the opinion that the principles outlined in this measure will make for the more efficient operation of the Public Service, and, in certain directions, it will grant concessions which will be deeply ap­preciated by the faithful, effectively working members of the Pub­lic Service which, during the past 50 years or so, has built up a splendid reputation not only in this State but throughout the Commonwealth of Australia.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-This is a very important measure, and it may be claimed that, in some respects, it is largely a Committee Bill. How­ever, it does introduce, with some­what of a palsied hand, a broad social principle that public servants in this State ought to have four weeks' annual leave. We agree with that, but we do not feel that this is a matter that ought to be determined by the Public Service Board. Parlia­ment should determine it, as it has done in the past. It is now written into the Public Service Act that public servants are entitled to three weeks' annual leave. If Parliament feels that, because of changing social conditions and an advance­ment in the standard of living, the period ought to be extended to four weeks, it should amend the Act accordingly. In so doing, it would be following well-established prin­ciples and precedents here and elsewhere in Australia. It might be said with truth that annual leave is bound up with the question of long service leave. When it was decided that long service leave ought to be granted in this State, that was written into the statutes by a Labour Government. A former Mini­ster of Labour, the Honorable A. M. Fraser-now Judge Fraser-intro­duced the relevant Bill into this House in the year 1953.

Sir PERCY BYRNEs.-Before that, I think the Country party had given such leave to railway employees.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALL Y.-It probably had, but if that was so, the Country party Administration con­cerned was maintained in office by the Labour party. All the social re­forms, other than those introduced into this State by a Labour Govern­ment, have emanated from the Country party with Labour backing. In this House, a Country party Government introduced adult suff­rage. That is how we got it here. When the Minister of Labour in the Cain Government introduced into this House a measure providing for long service leave, I recall that there was consternation on this side of the Chamber which was then occupied by members of the present Govern­ment party. Consequently, how odd it is now to see the Minister of Hous­ing amplifying the provisions of the Act which our party introduced. There was consternation when a period of twenty years' service was mentioned. It was claimed that in­dustry would be wrecked. Yet, a few years later, the Minister of Housing blithely states that for the purposes of long service leave the qualifying period of service must be reduced to fifteen years. These things are good, but they tend to emphasize the fact that the road of a reformer is always very hard; he must put up with a lot of abuse and criticism. We endorse the action of the Government on this Bill.

I think I ought to say, however, that at the appropriate stage, we shall endeavour to restore the position to what it ought to be, in an Act of Parliament. The Public Service is vitally important to our community, and its duties, obligations and rights are clearly set forth in legislation. The Government has a somewhat curious notion that on questions of social policy we ought to hand over our functions to the courts. That was the attitude taken by the Govern­ment with respect to my equal pay Bill. The Government said that this was a matter for the wages tribunals. At that. time, I pointed out, although I did not know precisely what the

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Government's reply was going to be, that that principle had been re­jected by Sir Leo Cuss en when the Commercial Clerks Wages Board made a determination fixing equal pay in certain classifications as long ago as 1913. The matter went on appeal to the Industrial Appeals Court, and Sir Leo Cussen was horri­fied that this matter should be left by Parliament to the determinatiqn of a wages tribunal. He said, " These questions are matters for Parliament to determine; they are not for us."

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-To what case is Mr. Galbally referring?

The Hon. J. W. GAL BALL Y.-It is a case reported in 19 Argus Law Reports at page 143. It is a very long judgment.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-In what year?

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-It was in 1913-some 50 years ago. The Industrial Appeals Court said that equal pay was not a matter for it. Since then, time and again the Minister of Labour and Industry has said to deputations from the Trades Hall, "Go to the appropriate tribunals on this matter. That is where you should go." Surely some­one in the Department of Labour and Industry must have informed the Minister of this decision. It was not the decision of an obscure magis­trate, or some unknown Judge. It was stated by Sir Owen Dixon recently on his retirement that he regretted that Sir Leo Cussen had never been eleva ted to the High Court of Australia. He regarded him as the most distinguished Judge in Victoria. I do not propose to read the judgment to which I referred earlier, but His Honour, Sir Leo Cussen said, about 50 years ago-

I disclaim any desire to settle questions of such enormous public importance.

Finally he said that if it is desired that the wage should be fixed at the same rate for both sexes, Parliament should say so.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett).-I presume the honorable member is endeavouring to debate a matter of principle and not the matter of equal pay.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-Yes, Mr. Acting President. I am equating that principle to the question of annual leave. I believe that it is not a matter for determination by the courts any more than equal pay was. I rely on the words of a very dis­tinguished Judge. I have pointed out that long service leave was not left to the appropriate tribunals. The Parliament of Victoria, following the example set by New South Wales, said, " We shall lay this down in a statute." I remind the House that the principle of equal pay in the Police Force is laid down in section 10 of the Police Regulation Act. I do not think many members of this House are aware of that. That section provides-

Women· who are members of the Force shall be entitled to receive salaries wages and allowances at the same rates as men of corresponding rank who are members of the Force are entitled to receive.

Some of us may remember that in New South Wales child endowment was introduced by Parliament. At the appropriate stage, we shall endeavour to write into this measure the principle I have enunciated, which we believe to be a good one. We believe that to do it in any other way is to filch from Parliament another obligation and another duty that properly belong to Parliament. This is highly important. It will be­come more and more important right throughout the community because it involves the question of leisure. With automation and so on, and the rise in the standard of living, in future we shall see annual leave increased right throughout the com­munity and long service leave taken earlier. These things are of vital social importance and ought not to be left to some tribunal which is not responsive to public OpInIOn, to changes in social thinking. We are the people who have these duties thrust upon us. We should say what

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the broad principles are and leave it to the appropriate Board to work out the machinery of its application -when Mr. X is to take his long service leave, the question of annual leisure, and so on. We should state the principles and then the appro­priate tribunal should say how they can be implemented.

I deplore the way the Government has gone about this measure. I do not know on what principle it is proceed­ing. I suspect that it introduced the Bill following some emotional reac­tion or representations made to it by the Public Service which, of course, is quite justifiable. The Govern­ment should say what the principles are. This will go further. There is no doubt that it will spread throughout the State. But let us do it properly and lay it down by Act of Parliament and not do it through some Board. It is important in these days when there is a mass of legislation on a number of issues to attempt to define certain fundamentals and certain principles.

I hope my words will impress the House and our friends in the Country party and that they will agree to my amendment which simply states that where "three weeks" appears it shall be changed to "four weeks."

The Hon. R. W. MAY (Gippsland Province) .-Although we have had only a short time in which to study the measure, the Country party supports the principle of protecting the Public Service, and is happy that provision is made for three weeks' annual leave for public servants. We hope that period will never be reduced.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-It can­not be because it is provided in the Act.

The Hon. R. W. MA Y.-Of course, I appreciate that it would require another Act of Parliament to make such a change. The Country party hopes the period will never be re­duced below three weeks. We agree with the principle of reducing the period of service for qualification for

long service leave from twenty to fifteen years. That is a move in the right direction.

On behalf of the Country party,. I support the Bill in its present form.

The motion was agreed to. The Bill was read a second time

and committed. Clauses 1 to 4 were agreed to. Clause 5, providing, inter aZia­(1) After section forty of the Principal

Act there shall be inserted the following heading and sections:-

Leave of Absence. 40A. (1) Every officer and employe shall

be entitled in accordance with the regu­lations to leave of absence for recreation and in the case of illness or other pressing necessity.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-1 move­

That sub-section (1) of proposed new section 40A be omitted with the view of in­serting the following:-

40A (1) Every officer and employe shall be entitled to-

(a) at such times as are convenient, leave of absence for recreation for any period or periods not ex­ceeding in the whole four weeks in each year;

(b) in the case of illness or other pressing necessity, leave of absence-

on such terms as are fixed by the regula­tions.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing) .-The Govern­ment has considered this amendment whose import, I think, is clear to the Committee. Mr. Galbally pro­poses the omission of certain words to provide a statutory direction that a certain amount of annual leave shall be given to members of the Public Service. We believe that the responsibility of determining the question of recreational leave should be left to the Public Service Board, which should be unfettered and free to act as it thinks fit.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-It is an alteration of principle in accordance with the present Act.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­It is an alteration of principle, and I think the clear-cut decision of the

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House can be recorded if those who think the Public Service Board should be given the responsibility, without direction, vote in favour of the words proposed to be admitted to stand part of the Bill. If there are honorable members who are against that course of action, and who want a direction to be given, they should vote in favour of the words being omitted.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-The Minis­ter of Housing has claimed that the Public Service Board ought not to be directed by Parliament, but we have been directing it for a long time. Sub­section (1) of section 62 provides, inter alia-

Every officer and employe shall be en­titled to-

(a) at such times as are convenient, leave of absence for recreation for any period or periods not exceed­ing in the whole three weeks in each year.

Already, public servants are entitled to three weeks' annual leave. All we are asking is that the word "three" be deleted and the word "four" in­serted, but the Minister states that, by acting in this manner, we would be directing the Public Service Board. In other words, it is not a direction to provide for three weeks' annual leave, but it is a direction to provide for four weeks' leave. I hope the Committee will reject such a syn­thetic and illogical approach to this question.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.-Do you consider that Parliament should direct the Public Service Board so far as salaries and wages are concerned?

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-No, because they are matters which should be determined by the Board. In fact, we have deliberately handed over those functions to the Board. It is a well-established principle throughout the community that wages Boards and the Arbitration Commission shall fix the mInImum rates of pay; that has been part of the Labour party's platform for 50 years. However, it has always been Parliament's function to lay down

broad principles concerning recrea­tional leave and such like. Already the principle of three weeks' annual leave is written into the Public Ser­vice Act, and the purpose of my amendment is simply to increase the period of leave to four weeks annually. However, the Government claims that this would represent a direction to the Public Service Board. That is a specious approach, which is unworthy of the Government or the Minister of Housing.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) .-1 support my Leader. I had rather hoped that the Minister of Housing would pro­vide some further elucidation con­cerning this matter. The Govern­ment has shown inconsistency in two ways. My Leader's arguments should have convinced everyone that the Government is avoiding the real issue. It espouses a policy and then walks away from it by saying that the matter in question is the responsibility of the appropriate tribunal. It is the responsibility of the wage-fixing tri­bunals and the Arbitration Commis­sion to fix wages and conditions of employment under terms and prin­ciples laid down by Parliament, but on matters of reform Parliament must give the lead. Parliament has pres­cribed that, after twenty years' ser­vice, employees shall be entitled to long service leave, and this Bill pro­vides for four and a half months' furlough after the completion of fifteen years' service. But, when it comes to prescribing four weeks' annual leave, the Government claims that it is a matter for determination by the appropriate tribunal. Why?

If the Public Service Board decides not to grant four weeks' annual leave, what will be the position? The Government will simply state that it is the responsibility of the tribunal. The Government should not dodge this issue. The Government claims that the tribunal will give four weeks' annual leave, but will that prove to be correct? Why should these doubts exist in our minds, and why should we change the principles which have

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been written into the Act in the past? The Government did not give any choice to the wage-fixing tribunals in the matter of whether annual leave should be two weeks or three weeks. In fact, Parliament laid down the broad principle for three weeks' annual leave.

All we are seeking is the introduc­tion of the broad principle whereby four weeks' annual leave will be granted. Why is the Government not bold enough to establish the prin­ciple? If it does not do so, it creates inconsistency in relation to outside industry, because Government ser­vants will be granted leave on a basis different from that on which employees in private organizations are granted leave. Why should the Government be inconsistent in two ways in connexion with this matter? First, it gives a direction and says, CI Yes, long service shall apply after fifteen instead of twenty years' ser­vice". However, when dealing with the aspect of annual leave, it says, "We will leave it to the appropriate tribunal ".

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing) .-If a person sought employment in an industrial concern, he would want to know what he would be receIvmg by way of pay, and what holi­days he would enjoy each year. These matters are closely allied to his interests as a potential employee and, before he accepted employment, he would desire that in­formation. We believe they are matters which should be decided by the Public Service Board and, where there is a distinction between recrea­tional leave and wages and salaries, an anomaly exists. The Government wishes to rectify the anomaly by say­ing to the Board, " It is your responsi­bilitv to determine how much these employees shall receive per annum by way of emoluments, and how much leave they shall have by way of recreational leave, sick leave. and leave to pursue academic studies."

The Hon. D. G. ELLIOT (Mel­bourne Province).-I am indebted to one of my friends in the corner-I

shall not name him-who stated that it is obvious from the comments of the Minister of Housing, that the Government does not believe in four weeks' annual leave.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing).-That has not been said at all. We follow the line of argument which I pursued in this Chamber recently when the ques­tion of equal pay was under con­sideration. It is not possible to have a free a,nd unfettered system of indus­trial tribunals and, at the same time, for Parliament to direct the tribunals how to act. Either these tribunals should be left free, or that principle should be rejected.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALL Y .-Sir Leo Cussen said that it should be left to Parliament.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­As a legal man, Sir Leo Cussen gave some judgment in 1913 expressing a certain opinion but, if I were to travel around Australia, I could probably find several learned authorities, even including the Prime Minister, who would support the view that this is a matter which should be left to the free and unfettered discretion of an industrial tribunal.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-It has been suggested that in handing over to the Public Service Board the responsibility of determining the question of annual leave, there is some inconsistency with what is being done in other spheres. The tribunals which deter­mine the great majority of the pay rates and conditions of work and annual leave in most industries in Victoria are the wages Boards. These Boards have the role of determining the minimum wages and other con­ditions, and also what annual leave shall be granted. These things are bound together, and similar con­siderations apply to possible changes in both wages and annual leave.

When claims concerning both these matters were submitted to the Commonwealth Arbitration Com­mission, it was decided to deal with

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only one aspect during one year and to leave the other matter until the next year. This action was taken on the basis that the two matters were closely related; the economic cir­cumstances were relevant to both matters because an increase in leave is, in some respects, the same as an increase in wages-it is a grant of the same wage for a lesser period of work. If honorable members accept the principle that wages Boards should have the responsibility of determining not only actual wages but also the conditions of annual leave, it is consistent to say that the Public Service Board, which already has the task of determining wages, should also determine annual leave. That is the principle which the Government adopts; it is perfectly consistent. In fact, it is more con­sistent than the approach of the Labour party.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD (Doutta Galla Province) .-Honor­able members have listened to the arguments of the two Ministers why the Government has decided to leave this matter to the Public Service Board. Their arguments leave me unconvinced. They have adopted the same technique as has been displayed in the past when the question of im­provement of conditions of sections of employees in any industry or ser­vice has been before Parliament. Members of the Liberal party always consider these matters on a political level. They adopt the age-old philosophy to give as little as they can and to withhold from employees any improvement in conditions for as long as they can. When the matter of twelve days' leave was under consideration in this House in 1947, the then Leader of the Liberal party, painted the same dismal picture as has been painted by this Government, that industry could not afford in­creased annual leave. I recollect a colleague, the late John Tunnecliffe, with his inimitable style of oratory, almost literally taking the hair and the hide of the then Leader of the

Liberal party for the arguments which he used. To-day, the Government has resorted to the same old theme.

It is true that there are tribunals which deal with certain conditions but, in this regard, voluminous evidence is heard, some of which is very argumentative, and this evidence is carefully collated and assessed before any decision is given. All that type of evidence is material that Parliament could not hope to assess, and that is why it is tradi­tional under the wages Board and arbitration systems for Parliament to push that type of assessment on to tribunals that have time to undertake the task. However, on this issue only a broad assessment is needed to determine whether leave should be for twelve days, two weeks, three weeks or four weeks. Just as Parlia­ment dealt with the Bill establishing a fortnight's annual leave-nobody questioned its right to do so-so should it decide the issue now. The only arguments raised when a fort­night's annual leave was legislated for were the usual cries of "too early," "too much," and so on. No one questioned the right of Parliament to insert the present provision in the Act, either.

With the exception of four weeks being inserted in place of three weeks, as at present, section 62, is similar to the proposal advanced by Mr. Clarey in another place. It provides that leave of absence can be granted up to three weeks, but it is significant, of course, that the words" on such terms as are fixed by regulations " are also included. The Government wants to keep its grip on the matter. It appoints the chairman of the Public Service Board and also appoints a Government representa­tive on the Board. Thus, it has a strong grip on the making of deci­sions by the Board. Also, the making of regulations under the present pro­visions is in the control of the Governor in Council. The Govern­ment is not even prepared to concede whatever the tribunal may wish to grant in the way of annual leave. It

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is hedging on the whole matter. This is the same old story, that any im­provem·ent in conditions for any section of employees is always too early or too much.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-1 must confess to be shocked and alarmed by the attitude of two Ministers of the Government in this House. I do not think the Government wants to do anything at all for the Public Service. If it did, it would say so in clear, unequivocal language that the Public Service is entitled to four weeks' annual leave.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVIcH.-And give a lead to outside industry.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.­Exactly. Having regard to the shock­ing record of this Government in con­nexion with the wages Board and arbitration systems, and its long history of not giving employees just reward for their services, I think it has deliberately acted in this case so as not to improve conditions in the Public Service but to wors·en them. It ought to be recognized that the Public Service Board is a creature of the Government. Two of the three members are appointed by the Government, and the Premier is hop­ing, if he gets this Bill through, to be able to dictate to the Board. We see a catch in this Bill. The Public Servke is being misled by the Government. If the Government were frank, it would concede our arguments because they are un­answerable. It would say that the Public Service should be granted four weeks' annual leave by providing for this in the legislation.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing) .-Far from the Government wanting to exercise in­creased control, actually it is handing over a power to the Public Service Board. We are transferring control over a provision in the legislation to the Board itself, whereas previously Governor in Council approval was necessary. In other words. this ques­tion of annual leave will now be decided by the Public Service Board,

free and unfettered. I do not think Mr. Galbally meant to cast a reflec­tion on the independence and in­tegrity of the Public Service Board, but his remarks went very close to doing so. The Teachers Tribunal and the Public Service Board have the full respect of members of the Teaching Service and of the Public Service. I do not think a finger can be pointed at either tribunal for having been the instrument of the Government or of any outside body on any occasion. In fact, through their history, they have acted as independent bodies and have given impartial decisions with­out any interference from outside in­fluences of any description.

All the Government is attempting to do is to remove an anomaly and place the Public Service Board and the Teachers Tribunal in the same position as are outside wages Boards. In the future, they will have the re­sponsibility of dealing with the terms and conditions of employment on the same basis as do outside tribunals. At the moment, we have the ridi­culous anomaly of the Government, on the one hand, deciding what public servants and teachers shall receive in the way of annual leave, and, on the other hand, the respective tribunals being responsible for assess­ing salaries. Obviously, these two matters are so closely inter-related that they cannot be separated.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) .-How is the Public Service Board to judge whether or not public servants should be granted three or four weeks' an­nual leave? On what evidence will it act?

The Hon. L. H. S. THoMPsoN.-On the same evidence as it judges ques­tions of salaries and wages. The two cannot be separated.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.­Salaries and wages are assessed on different standards. The cost of living, and the standard at which public servants or teachers are ex­pected to live, must be assessed. Also there are other factors to be con­sidered-for instance, the double

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distribution of wealth in the form of Commonwealth child endowment. The question of annual leave cannot be decided on what industry can afford and on principles which are already established. The Government, by persisting in its present attitude, is walking away from its responsibility of giving some lead in relation to these things, which cannot be judged on evidence. They are principles of social reform. The Minister of Immi­gration, apparently, does not under­stand this point. What will be the measuring rod of tribunals in deciding whether four weeks' annual leave should or should not be granted? Will it be the fact that New South Wales has already granted four weeks? Will it be on the basis of the standard of health within the Public Service? Will they take into consideration the fact· that certain men are in ill health owing to the arduous nature of their work? Of course, that is not the type of measuring rod to be adopted. This is a matter of principle. If the Government walks away from its responsibility, it will give no lead to outside industry or to the courts. My Leader has already pointed out that Sir Leo Cussen decided this question in 1913 and his decision has been followed down through the years.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-They are bound by his decision.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-The courts are most loath to depart from established custom in relation to conditions of employment. In relation' to the granting of annual leave the Government is attempting to hide behind the particular tribunals concerned. If the Government be­lieves in increased leave for public servants and teachers, it should legislate for it. It alleges that it believes in increased leave in this day and age, but it will not act. Its present proposal will place the tri­bunals concerned in a most invidious position. I would hate to be a member of one of them and to be asked what my measuring rod was to be in deciding whether three or

four weeks' annual leave should be granted. I challenge every Govern­ment member on this issue. On what would they judge the period of annual leave? I shall be interested to hear the Minister speak on this matter.

Some years ago, unions brought be­fore the Arbitration Court, a case for increases in wages and it was heard by Judge Drake-Brockman. This is an issue which the court has a right to judge because the principles are established. The court judges the issue on the economy of the country. In his wisdom, Judge Drake-Brock­man said to the Commonwealth Government of the day, "If you do not introduce some form of double distribution of wealth such as child endowm·ent, I shall be compelled to grant substantial increases in weekly wage rates which may ultimately affect the economy of the country." As a result of that ultimatum, Commonwealth-wide child endowment was introduced. Pre­viously, it had applied only in New South Wales. Judge Drake-Brock­man felt that it would be advanta­geous to industry, the workers and the Government if some form of double distribution of wealth was provided. He was loath to attempt to bring this about by an action of an industrial tribunal. Let the Government be clear on this issue. If it believes in four weeks' annual leave for public servants, let it provide for that period of leave by legislation. The respective tribunals should not be placed in a position where they have no measuring stick to use.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-The remarks of the Minister reveal the abysmal ignorance of this Govern­ment as to what is the proper function of the Arbitration Commis­sion or the wages Board system in Victoria. Neither is an economic or social legislature, as Sir Leo Cussen pointed out. The Minister made some rather comtemptuous remarks about Sir Leo Cussen's decision and suggested that if one went around

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Australia one would get opinions to the contrary. That is not so. Under our system of wages Boards in Victoria, a wages Board is bound by the decision which has stood for 50 years. If equal pay is to come about in Victoria, it can come only by action in Parliament.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON .-It has already been introduced by some tribunals.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.­When a Government spokesman says that if women want equal pay they will have to go elsewhere than to the Government to obtain it, he deliber­ately ignores the decision of Sir Leo Cussen.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­Twenty-three Boards have made decisions in favour of equal pay since Sir Leo Cussen made his decision.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-I have heard that statement previously, but would the Minister indicate where this has occurred?

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON .-In Victoria.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-The Minister's reply to the deputation from the Trades Hall Council rather suggested something along the same lines. When challenged as to where they w·ere, the Minister was unable to say.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­Hospital executives were the subject of the last one.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-The Arbitration Commission has adopted the same stand as was taken in Victoria by Sir Leo Cussen. In 1953, the Commission said that it was neither a social nor an economic legislator. That statement was made when an application was made by the Australian National Council of Women and the Australian Federa­tion of Business and Professional Women's' Clubs. The Commission said that it was not its function to aim at such social and economic changes. . Its function is to prevent

or to settle industrial disputes, and it is obliged to exercise its powers in the social and economic context of the period in which it has to reach a decision. It can clearly be seen that the Arbitration Commission has taken exactly the same view as Sir Leo Cussen took in 1913 in Victoria. The courts still take that view, that such profound changes ought to come from Parliament.

This proposal is a social change, a social reform. For some years the Public Service has had by Act of Parliament, the right t6 three weeks' annual leave. Now the Government purports to say, "We will make it four weeks, but we will not do it in the form of an Act. We will hand it over to our creature, the Public Service Board" which is a branch of the Executive. The chairman and another member of the Board are put there by the Government. It can be seen from the debate that no answ·er has been given to the submissions we ha ve made in this House. I feel sure that members of the Country party must be thoroughly uncomfortable, and that some members in the Government party must ask, "Why have we to do this in such a specious way?" Is it that, when the Premier made a press announcement some months ago to the effect that the Public Service was to get four weeks' annual leave, he was tugged by the Victorian Employers Federation which said, "If you write that into the Act, everybody will get it," to which the Premier replied, "We will not do that. We will leave it to the Public Service Board and the public servants may never get it." That is the fear we are expressing here to-day. The Government is promising something that it is not going to carry out.

The Committee divided on the question that the sub-section pro­posed by the Hon. J. W. Galbally to be omitted stand part of the clause (the Hon. T. H. Grigg in the chair)-

Ayes 18 Noes 9

Majority against the amendment 9

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Mr. Byrne Sir Percy Byrnes Mr. Campbell Mr. Chandler Mr. Feltham Mr. Fulton Mr. Gawith Mr. Gross Mr. Mack Mr. Mair

Mr. Galbally Mr. Knight Mr. Merrifield Mr. Smith Mr. Todd

AVES.

I Mr. Mav Mr. Nicol Mr. Swinburne Mr. Thorn Mr. Thompson Mr. Walters.

Tellers: Mr. Bradbury Mr. Dickie.

NOES.

Mr. Tripovich Mr. Walton.

Tellers: Mr. Elliot Mr. O'Connell.

The clause was agreed to, as were th~ remaining clauses.

The Bill was reported to the House without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

NATIONAL PARKS BILL. The debate (adjourned from April

29) on the motion of the Hon. R. W. Mack (Minister of Health) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. A. W. KNIGHT (Mel­bourne West Province).-In his ex­planatory second-reading speech, the Minister stated that this was a small Bill. That is true, but it is an im­portant measure in some respects. It deals with an area of Crown land in the vicinity of Port Campbell which is within the Province represented by the Minister of Health. I am pleased that the Government has seen fit to provide for this area to be declared a national park. The Bill also pro­vides for the Loch Ard cemetery to be included as part of the national park. At this point on the coast a shipping tragedy occurred many years ago. The Labour party is in agreement with the closure of this cemetery. It serves no useful purpose as a cemetery, and we believe it should be incorporated in the national park.

It is proposed by clause 4 of the Bill to empower the National Parks Authoritv to permit the erection of a c"airn at Tidal River on Wilson's Promontory National

Park to commemorate the memory of the commandos who so gallantly served their country in the last war. Perhaps I may be permitted to digress a little to traverse the history of these brave men. The commando force was formed in 1941, before the advent of Japan into the war. It was formed under an officer trained around the craggy nooks of Scotland who was brought to this country from the United Kingdom. The military authorities then correctly thought that commando training would be of value to Australia.

I wish to quote from a book relating to the commando force, The Jungle is Neutral, written by F. Spencer Chapman. At page 7 the author stated, inter alia-

The idea of Anzac independent com­panies or commandos was a new one, and it was shrouded in so much secrecy that nothing effective could be done for some time. We talked vaguely of guerilla and irregular warfare, of special and para­military operations, stay-behind parties, resistance movements, sabotage and incen­diarism, and, darkly and still more vaguely, of "agents;" but the exact role of the commandos and independent companies had never been made very clear. The recent Lofoten raid was much in people's minds and some thought-and hoped-that the companies would be used as shock troops for full-scale raids with air and sea support.

At page 8 he mentioned how Wilson's Promontory was selected as the training site. He said, inter alia-

At last, early in 1941, after looking at various sites that had been offered, we decided on Wilson's Promontory at the extreme south point of Victoria. Wilson's Promontory was a national park and therefore uninhabited except by a few rangers and great numbers of kangaroos, wallabies, and emus, and as it was joined to the mainland by a 20-mile isthmus of sand and scrub its security was perfect.

Those brief passages will serve to give some idea of what was in the minds of the military advisers regard­ing "X" force, "A" force and the intelligence force which comprised the commando units. One honorable member who is at present in this Chamber, together with his brother, had the high honour of serving in a commando unit. As Australians we

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must pay high tribute to the com­mandos for their gallant service. It is only fitting that a monument to them should be erected at one of the most beautiful areas in Australia. However, sub-clause (2) of clause 4 which provides that the Authority may cause the cairn to be demolished and removed as it sees fit and may recover the cost incurred in so doing from any person, whether a member of the said body or not, does not reflect any great credit on the Government. One can recall the grateful thoughts and generous response of the citizens of Victoria when they caused the Shrine of Remembrance to be erected as a great and perpetual memory to the Anzacs. Our forefathers would certainly not have agreed to the insertion of such a provision as is contained in sub-clause (2) of clause 4 concerning the building of a memorial cairn at Tidal River. Whether it be the Shrine of Remem­brance or this small cairn, the prin­ciple is the same-it is a war mem­orial erected to the honour of our fighting services. My party will not vote for this clause.

Whilst I am eulogizing the com­mandos, I pay tribute to Wilson's Promontory. I visited that area for the first time during the war in com­pany with an officer, and I was as­tounded. I have since visited Wil­son's Promontory on other occasions because one of my relatives lives in that area. It is a magnificent dis­trict, and the erection of a memorial cairn at Tidal River will be a fitting tribute to the men who did their initial training there. Great credit is reflected on the Commando Asso­ciation of Victoria for its efforts to have a monument erected to the per­petual memory of their fallen com­rades.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province).-This is a small Bill the purpose of which is to declare the western part of Victoria a National Park and also to pay fitting tribute to the commandos who died in the service of their country in time

of war. I cannot conceive that any Government or Department would wish to place on the statute-book the provision that is contained in sub­clause (2) of clause 4. Many years ago, the Returned Sailors Soldiers and Airmen's Imperial League of Aus­tralia made representations to the Vic­torian Government to erect a suitable memorial to the memory of the men who lost their lives in the 1914-18 war. A grateful people responded in a most spon~aneous way, and contri­buted substantially towards the erec­tion of what is now known as the Shrine of Remembrance. An honoured and distinguished man in the perso~ of Sir Frank Clarke, who later be­came President of this Chamber, attended an annual conference of the Returned Sailors Soldiers and Air­men's Imperial League of Australia and stated the views of the Govern­ment. The Shrine of Remembrance is now one of the greatest memorials commemorating those gallant men who lost their lives in the service of their country. To me, any cairn or memorial erected in any part of Aus­tralia perpetuating the memory of fallen comrades is just as sacred as is the Shrine of Remembrance.

Five years ago, when my wife and I were motoring across from the east to the west coast of Scotland alongside Loch Ness and into Fort William, we saw in the shadow of Ben Nevis a little monument to the memory of the commandos who served in the United Kingdom which had been erected by a grateful people. It stands there for all to see, and is a lasting reminder of the courage and bravery of the men who served in that force.

I was unable to ascertain the name and address of the secretary of the Commando Association of Victoria, but it seems that that association entered into certain obligations which should never have been imposed upon it. In Committee, I intend to move an amendment to sub-clause (2) of clause 4, which at present states-

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and repair and the cairn is not kept in proper repair accordingly the Authority may from time to time cause the cairn to be repaired or may cause it to be demo­lished and removed as it sees fit and may recover the cost incurred in so doing from any person whether a member of the said body or not who is responsible or liable for or in respect of the observance of the covenant term or condition.

I cannot conceive that any such con­dition should be imposed upon an organization such as the Commando Association of Victoria. Wilson's Promontory is one of the greatest na tional parks in Australia, and I believe the National Parks Authority should have seen fit to spend some small sum in erecting this cairn at Tidal River. But to impose this obli­gation upon the association is beyond my ken.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD.­Have you any idea how many com­mandos gave their lives in the service of their country?

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-I have no idea, but it does not matter to me whether the number was one or 100, the principle is the same, and these men volunteered to undertake some of the most hazardous tasks of the war.

The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER.-The National Parks Authority could maintain it. It will be of great public interest.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-I shall develop my own line of thought. The National Parks Authority acts under the Government. At this stage, I shall not say much about the National Parks Authority-I could say much with justification. I feel sorry for men who have no bigger minds than to include a provision of this nature. It is proposed to place an unjust penalty on the Commando Associa­tion of Victoria. Perhaps the Minister could inform me what is meant by the provision that the Authority-. . . . may recover the cost incurred in so doing from any person whether a mem­ber of the said body or not, who is respon­sible or liable for or in respect of the observance of the covenant term or condi­tion.

I do not like to think that anybody would wish to demolish the memorial and then to sue some unknown body or person for the recovery of the cost of so doing.

The Hon. G. W. THOM (South­Western Province) .-1 support this important Bill, the first part of which relates to the acquisition of an addi­tional national park in the Port Campbell area. This is a wonderful step in the right direction. I would be happy to see Bills being passed every session for the further acquisi­tion of national parks because Vic­toria is developing rapidly and we must take steps now to acquire as many national parks as we can ..

I believe the provisions in the Bill relating to the Loch Ard cemetery are sensible. That cemetery has been disused for some time and to make the National Parks Authority respon­sible for the graves of men who lost their lives in a disaster is a wise move and should receive general commen­dation. I am also happy to support the provisions in the Bill relating to the memorial cairn at Wilson's Promontory. I was at the Promon­tory from May, 1942, to November, 1942, so I know something about this matter, and I should like to give the House some background information on the association. In 1941, British commandos came from England as instructors and formed the nucleus of a scheme for training commandos at Wilson's Promontory. The names of Chapman and Mike Calvert, later of Burma fame, are well known. These men started from nothing and built the training camp. I believe they picked the best terrain in Australia for that type of training. They laid the foundations for this tremendous training campaign.

It is also of interest to note that some of the first men to undergo training there were from New Zealand, and thus the Anzac spirit was rekindled. The officers and non­commissioned officers made their headquarters at the Darby river, and I think it is proper that the cairn is to be erected at Tidal River because

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that is actually where the training was undertaken. These independent companies as they were known, the 1 st to the 8th, were all trained on the Promontory, and at the end of 1942 the headquarters were moved to Canungra, then to Fraser Island in Queensland, and later to Garden Island in Western Australia. This cairn is to be a memorial to the in­stitution of commando training in Australia. In the early days, the concept of the role of these units was that they were to act as pene­tration forces, particularly if Australia was invaded. The concept was altered as time went on. These units were originally known as independent companies and later as the Australian Cavalry Commando Regiments. There were approximately 220 men in each company, and there was a great degree of comradeship in these small units.

I agree with Mr. Fulton that some of the words used in the Bill are un­fortunate, and I understand that the Minister in charge of the Bill will take steps during the Committee stage to remove some of those offending words. The association intends to regard this cairn as a national shrine. I am sure honorable members realize that these units were recruited from all over Australia and this cairn, when erected, will be a similar memorial to that erected in the memory of British commandos at Ben Nevis. Men who trained at the Promontory will want to come back from time to time to pay homage. An appeal was conducted throughout Australia, and the sum of £1,548 was raised, which is more than adequate to pay for the erection of the cairn. It is interesting to note that £300 came from the New South Wales association. At present, there are approximately 1,000 men in Victoria who are eligible to join the associa­tion, and there are 609 active members. Someone asked how many men died on service, but I do not know the figure. I have an artist's impression of the cairn which I shall pass around for honorable members to examine. It is to be 22 feet high

The Hon. G. W. Thom.

with a 6-ft. high emblem of the double diamond, which was the colour patch of these units. Included in these units were "M" force and " Z" force. The 1st Independent Company served at Bougainville, the 2nd and 4th in Timor, and the remainder in New Guinea and elsewhere.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-It would be easy to demolish the cairn, would it not?

The Hon. G. W. THOM.-The Minister has indicated that those unfortunate words will be deleted from the Bill. The association regards this memorial as something very personal, and wants the right to maintain it although the cost of main­tenance will be low because it is to be built of Besser brick. However, I believe the provision that the main­tenance will eventually be taken over by the National Parks Authority is a wise one, because there will not be the same interest in the association 50 years hence when most of the members have passed on. I think it is a good idea that the Authority will take care of this memorial to a group of units whose actions were not widely publicized during the war but which made a tremendous contribu­tion to our war effort.

During training periods, members of the units could not get away from the Promontory quickly enough, but as time passes one gets a kind of affection for the things which one disliked most intensely during service days. I believe that many of the men will want to return to the national park at the Promontory as tourists, and this cairn will serve as a happy reminder of the days they spent training in the area.

The sitting was suspended at 12.55 p.m. until 2.18 p.m.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE (North-Eastern Province) .-1 should like to make a few observations on this measure and take the opportu­nity to comment on the administra­tion of the National Parks Authority. The Bill seeks to achieve three

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things-proclaim a new area as a national park; make provision for the Loch Ard public cemetery to be closed and taken over by the Authority; and the erection of a memorial cairn to commemorate the commandos.

I strongly support the proposal to erect a memorial cairn and commend the views expressed by my colleague, Mr. Fulton, and by Mr. Knight in relation to this proposal. I trust that in the Committee stage the comments they have made re­garding the wording of the relevant clause will be given effect. I think it behoves all honor­able members to accept responsibi­lity in this regard.

When the National Parks Autho­rity was created, it was envisaged that many areas of the State would be taken over by this organization. I claim that I was responsible for the inclusion in that measure of a schedule, and for a provision to make it mandatory for each area added afterwards to be included in the schedule. Because of that, it is necessary to bring the first proposal to Parliament. I have no objections to the adding of areas to those already proclaimed as national parks because I realize that each part of the State should have the opportunity of having specific areas of national importance included amongst our national parks. I believe the area chosen on this occasion is in that category. There are also many other areas which I consider could be added. However, we must realize that up to date the Government has not pro­vided very much money for the administration of the National Parks Authority, with the result that areas being declared as national parks are not being developed in the way in which we would like to see them developed.

Recently, the Authority called a conference of committees of manage­ment of the various parks throughout the State. It was evident to those of us who attended representing various committees of management.

that the main problem associated with the National Parks Authority was its complete ineffectiveness to administer the areas placed under its control On account, first, of insuffi­cient finance and, secondly, of the complex method by which develop· mental works have to be carried out by, in the main, the Public Works Department. Nevertheless, I believe that a great deal of good resulted from the conference because of the information of a practical nature given to the Authority during the discussions which took place. J trust that sufficient funds will be added to the vote of the Authority in order that the ar'ea in the south­western portion of the State now to be placed under its control will be effectively administered.

Once an area is declared a national park, somebody has to be responsible for it. It is all right to hold the theory that some enthusiasts possess these areas should remain as nature left them. It is a very nice theme song, but somebody must be appointed to ensure that the area remains in that state, if that is the policy of the Authority. Conse­quently, rangers must be appointed and finance provided for their wages housing and ancillary needs. Fro~ our experience of national parks to­day, w'e think it is necessary to construct defined tracks and access roads so that people can enjoy these areas without becoming lost in the wilderness. Many of the areas declared as national parks to-day have remained in practically the same condition as when they were taken over. Committees of management have not been able to undertake any development because of lack of finance and difficulty in carrying out works.

At the conference to which ] referred earlier, it was evident to all present that the Lands Department has reserved many areas which will never be made available for develop­ment and must eventually be declared national parks. At the mom,ent, officers of the Lands

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Department have been given respon­sibility for their control. I under­stand that the Lands Department, after a great deal of consideration, believes that these areas should be progressively released and declared national parks. The Department has a big problem on its hands, because pressure groups are at work, and their efforts eventually reach local members and the Government of the day. I know that difficulties arise on many occasions, but I urge that we should be very careful at this early stage about how many areas should be added to the list of national parks for which the Authority is to be responsible, unless, of course, the Government is prepared to accept further financial responsibility for the control and development of national parks.

Over the years I have made many comments regarding the activities of the National Parks Authority. At this stage, I point out that last year I made some suggestions that the Authority itself should be recon­stituted. Having had some ex­perience, I recommend that represen­tatives of committees of management should be added to the Authority. That would enable a balance of opinion to be available, and would add responsibility to committees of management. It would also give the Authority knowledge of the practical operations in the control of national parks, because the local committees of management have to deal with the people on the spot.

The Hon. W. O. FULToN.-In my opinion, members of committees of management are treated as nonen­tities to-day.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.-It was openly stated by one member of the Authority at the conference to which I have referred that eventually committees of management would disappear. I think that would be a tragedy.

The Hon. R. W. MAcK.-Are they not provided for in the present legis-lation?

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.­Yes, but when a little power is given to some men they get the opinion that they are greater than the Government or Parliament. Whether the person who made the statement I have referred to did so as a prophecy of future policy or was using it as a threat to the naughty boys, as he might have termed us, I am not quite sure. How­ever, I can assure the Minister of Health that his remarks were accep­ted in very poor grace by members of committees who have for many long years worked in a voluntary capacity in the interests of the devel­opment of their areas.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELU.­And rightly so, too.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.-I agree. We have discovered that the Authority can " wipe-off" suggestions -of committees of management as quickly as it likes. Under the legis­Jation, the Authority must ask for advice from a committee of manage­ment, but need not necessarily accept it. The Authority is in an all powerful position if it cares to exer­cise its power. I have always been hopeful that it would work a little more co-operatively, but up to date that has not been the case.

I think we ought to face up to the responsibility of making com­mittees of management an integral part of the development and control of our parks, because they are com­prised of local representatives who know their own parks. In many cases, these men have lived in close proximity to the area ~nd have had close association with it over a num­ber of years. My experience is that members of committees of manage­ment are very jealous of the devel­opment of their areas and always strive to act in the best interests of the public.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD.­There is great local pride in these areas.

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The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.-Of course there is. I sound a note of warning and urge the Government to re-examine this position. I also urge that additional funds should be made available to cover the cost of the development of this park. It should not be left, as some of the other parks are at the moment, without anybody to care for it or make any contribu­tion towards its development. That would be the worst thing that could happen to the area.

The Loch Ard cemetery is to be taken over and, of course, we do not know who rests there apart from those who were involved in the ship­wreck. I presume some local people have relatives buried there. Complete control for its future maintenance is to be handed over, and I trust that the principles relating to the cairn to be erected at Wilson's Promontory will be applied to this cemetery, so that it will receive proper care and attention. Otherwise, it could be­come neglected. Provision for this shouJd be made either by Act of Parliament or by regulations.

I have had some years of ex­perience in the care of national parks both before and since the establish­ment of the National Parks Authority, and I am not happy with the pro­gress that the Authority is making. Over the years, a good deal of development has taken place at the Mount Buffalo National Park, but since the Authority has been given responsibility for its care, development has slowed down. Re­lationships between the Authority and the committee of management, of which I am now chairman, have been far from good, and the co-opera­tion necessary to enable the area to be developed properly has been lacking. Members of the committee may have been difficult on occasions. They have taken a stand over certain matters, but in doing so they have acted in the interests of the local people and of the State in general. Several times the committee has been overridden and works which, in its opinion, are not in the best interests

of the park, have been carried out. If this trend continues, great difficul­ties will arise.

To illustrate my point, I shall cite two instances. The passing of the Bill will enable the erection of a worth-while memorial cairn in Wilson's Promontory National Park. Before the National Parks Authority took control of the Mount Buffalo National Park, a building was erected a t the Dingo Dell ski run with some funds provided by the committee and others drawn from the old tourist fund, which was then held in the Public Works Department. Upon its completion, the committee named it the A. W. Keown lodge in recognition of a man who had served the com­mittee in a voluntary capacity for many years and who probably had done more of the foundational work for the sport of ski-ing in Victoria than any other person.

Before the National Parks Author­ity was given control, the committee had proposed to build a swimming shelter at Lake Catani, and after the Authority took over it was eventually erected. I t was the wish of the com­mittee that this building be named after the person who had been chair­man of the committee of management at Mount Buffalo from 1929 until 1964, but we were advised that it was not the policy of the Authority to name buildings or features within a national park after persons who had been associated with its development. Thus, the committee was unable to give some sort of recognition to this man for the great service he had rendered to t.he State.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY.-Did the Authority provide any of the money?

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.-It supplied some of it, and some came from the committee of management. The proposed memorial cairn at Wilson's Promontory will comme­morate soldiers who gave their lives in the service of their country, but I cannot see that a different principle is involved. A certain area of land

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that was declared a national park after the Authority was set up was named after a Minister of the Crown who became chairman of the Authority-I refer to the Fraser National Park-because of the work he had carried out in the establish­ment of the Authority. I cannot see much difference; if it is good enough to name a park after a certain person because of the services he rendered in the setting up of the Authority, surely a committee of management is entitled to name a building after a person who has rendered many years' service. I trust that the Authority will reconsider its ruling so that the committee of management may honour the gentleman con­cerned. At the Eildon reservoir the names of many Ministers and former Ministers have been given to various inlets and bays. I believe the com­mittee of management to which I refer should have the opportunity of recognizing the services of a man in the development of the park which was handed over to the Authority as a going concern.

Over the years, some criticism has been levelled at the development of our national parks being undertaken by private enterprise. I have taken the view that if the Government is not prepared or is unable to find the necessary finance, the only way in which to develop our parks is by means of money provided by private enterprise. This practice has been adopted in the Snowy Mountains in New South Wales. Questions were asked in this House last year in relation to tenders which had been let in connexion with Mount Buffalo. A certain organization-I think it is called the Tara Development Com­pany-has a franchise to develop an area of some 10 acres known as " Cresta" on Mount Buffalo. The committee of management wanted to have some say in the planning and development of the area and laid down certain conditions as a minimum requirement. The National Parks Authority was asked to see that the wishes of the committee of management were fulfilled.

The Hon. I. A. Swinburne.

I visited the park the week-end before last and was amazed to find that this company has proceeded with the erection of a building which is completely contrary to the recom­mendations of the committee of management. I believe this building would be called a barracks in any language. It was intended to be a day-visitors' lodge to provide shelter in bad weather. A ski-tow is being installed. The original plan was to erect the lodge on a separate site. In one end of the building is situated the manager's flat; then there are eight rooms in each of which it is proposed to put four bunks; and in the other end accommodation will be provided for up to twenty members of the staff. I can imagine what will happen. In the snow season, the building will be full of skiers, and the staff will be cut down to a mInImum. The only common room to which these people will have access when conditions are bad or at night is the cafeteria which is a room 32 feet by 28 feet. This is not the type of building we want to see in our national parks.

A further point is that this building has been erected within about 12 feet of a 6-ft. high cutting. When snow falls the gap between the building and the cutting will be filled with snow, and access to the building will be cut off because the entrance is on that side. To make matters worse, the Authority has provided for future development and some 3 or 4 chains farther on earthworks have been completed for the building of what is to be known as a motel. I thought a person could drive up to the front door of a motel and thus gain access to the room allotted to him. No one will be able to drive a car closer than 200 or 300 yards, and the only access will be along a narrow way which will be filled with snow.

The planning of the National Parks Authority in this instance is com­pletely out of touch with the con­ditions sought by the committee of management. I trust that the Government will examine this

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problem because buildings of the type to which I have referred are foreign to the activities which have been carried out to date. We ask that planning should be of the highest standard. If development is to pro­ceed on the basis permitted at Mount Buffalo, a slum will exist there before we know where we are. I under­stand that some members of the National Parks Authority visited the park last week, and I have a pretty fair idea what they would think of the development. I trust that some ac~ion will be taken to put a stop to thIS type of activity in our national parks.

It has been traditional that build­ings in our alpine regions should conform in general to what might be termed alpine architecture and that they should be constructed of materials which fit in with the ge!1e~al setting. In this instance, that prmcIple has been completely departed from. I have taken some pri~e in the development of our alpme areas, and this is the worst .example I have seen in any area m thIS portion of Victoria. I suppose, as chairman of the com­mittee of management, I have to accept some responsibility but this building has been constru'cted con­trary to the plans envisaged by the committee of management and con­trary to the conditions which were laid down. By bringing this matter to the attention of the Government I have attempted to make th~ Authority aware of the situation which exists. I believe it is my re­sponsibility to bring these matters to the attention of the House. If private enterprise is to be permitted to ope~ate in our national parks, the National Parks Authority should in­sist on a high standard of facilities and bUildings. In my private life I have had a close association with the Mount Buffalo National Park, which is one of the biggest tourist resorts in Victoria. Much excellent work has been done by the Country Roads Board and, as instanced by the

chalet, the Railway Department has set an excellent standard of accommodation.

The national park to which I refer is fast developing. The National Parks A.u.thority should accept responsi­bIlIty. but at p~es~nt the area is being explOIted. BUIldmgs are being erec­ted whi~h, within a few years, will be nothmg else but humpies. This type of development is completely outside the charter of the National Parks Authority, and should not be permitted.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD (Doutta Galla Province) .-With the exception of clause 4, about which my colleague, Mr. Knight, and Mr. Fulton have spoken, my party is in agreement with the Bill. Sub-clause (2) of clause 4 provides that the Authority may recover the cost in­curred in repairing or demolishing the cairn to be erected from any person whether a member of the said body or not who is responsible or liable for or in respect of the ob­servance of the covenant, term or condition relating to the erection and maintenance of the cairn. In 1942, the average age of the commandos would be twenty. Many of them would be over 40 years of age to-day. I take it that the Commando Association of Vic­toria is an unincorporated body. It will be difficult to get anything from tha t body unless the articles of as­sociation provide for a fresh influx of members from time to time, because, in 30 years from now, the association may not be in existence. The clause is ridiculous, and we sup­port the remarks of Mr. Fulton. However, I agree that the cairn, as illustrated by Mr. Thorn, appears to be a most enduring structure.

Clause 2 relates to the Port Campbell National Park. You, Mr. Acting President, are responsible for my special interest in Port Camp­bell because you introduced me to that locality. Unquestionably, it is one of the greatest scenic areas of

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eastern Australia, and it is remark­able that it has been overlooked for such a long time. Some of the speciaJ tourist features are the Twelve Apos­tles and the many little islets that dot the coastline. The Government should examine the boundaries to determine the responsibility for the off-shore islets.

1 now direct my remarks to the safety of visitors to this area. Pro­vision is made in the principal Act to cover the safety and control of visitors. Port Campbell is in much the same category as the Grampians, where, as honorable members will re­call, unfortunate fatalities have oc­curred from time to time. The Port Campbell Progress Association has done much to improve and make safe the access to the various tourist attractions. I do not know whether it is proposed that the National Parks Authority shall replace the progress association-I do not think the Act envisages such an eventuality-but I hope that the safety provisions for all this area can be re-examined. There are many "scrambly" provisions. in the various sections regulating the conduct, obligations or duties of per­sons visiting the areas, the safety and expenses incurred in connexion with searches for people who have been lost. These various provisions should be re-examined and brought into some sort of harmony.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY (North-Eastern Province) .-1 support the remarks of Mr. Fulton. This is a strange Bill; on the one hand, it has a worthy motive, and, on the other hand, one clause is a little objection­able. 1 do not think anyone could take exception to the proposal to erect a cairn at Tidal River. Honor­able members must have been most impressed with the artist's impres­sion of that memorial which was ex­hibited by Mr. Thom. I think all honor­able members are impressed by the motives behind the Bill, but sub­clauses (1) and (2) of clause 4 are rather strange. I do not know why sub-clause (2) is necessary. Sub-

clause (1) provides, amongst other things, that the Authority may permit the erection of the cairn subject to such covenants, terms and conditions as the Authority may determine. The powers granted there are wide.

I concur with Mr. Thom that the Commando Association will regard the cairn as a national shrine­naturally, everyone will do so. On the other hand, while the Authority will have power to permit these men of high motives to er·ect the cairn as a monument, if they do not keep the cairn in good order and repair, the Authority will have power to carry out the work at the association's expense, and further, if it is not properly looked after, to demolish it. That is a strange attitude for Parliament to adopt. In the years to come, the worthy men who erect the cairn will not be alive to main­tain the memorial. But if it falls into a state of disrepair it will be demolished. Even if it is demolished, it will be possible under the Bill for the Authority to sue whoever is left. I do not know how that can be interpreted. I do not know who will be responsible for observing the convenants, terms and conditions. The thing will go on perpetually, and no doubt som·eone may be held legally responsible to maintain the cairn.

I am not a legal man-those mem­bers who are can correct me if I am wrong-but I have always been under the impression that if a person owns land, whether or not he leases it, if he permits it to be used by someone else and that person puts a permanent structure on it, the structure becomes the property of the landowner. Further, when the lessee or occupant leaves the land, the owner is responsible if he wishes to maintain the structure. In this Instance, ultimately the memorial may be dismantled, and relatives or executors of various estates may be sued for the cost of demolition or if it is not demolished, the cost of maintenance. Goodness knows where this would end. I support my

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colleague, Mr. Fulton; we shall vigorously oppose sub-clause (2) of clause 4.

The motion was agreed to.

The Bill was read a second time and committed.

Clause 1 was agreed to. Clause 2 (Lands described in

schedule to be national park).

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-1 wish to reply briefly to various matters raised during the second-reading debate. I shall merely indicate at this stage what the Government proposes in regard to clause 4, and debate it at the appropriate time.

I agree with Mr. Merrifield's comment that the small islands adjacent to the land should form part of the national park. I am not prepared to say how this should be done or whether or not they are included in the plan referred to in the schedule to the Bill. With regard to the safety angle, I agree with a good deal of Mr. Merrifield's com­ment. This is a spectacular but dangerous piece of coast. A good deal of protection is afforded already in the way of warning notices, and so on.

I now refer to the matter raised by Mr. Swinburne. I pOint out that generally his points were not directed towards this particular national park but largely towards the National Parks Authority. All I can say is that I shall bring to the notice of the Minister concerned the matters raised, which generally affect committees of managem·ent as well as the Authority, and the particular problems Mr. Swinburne discussed relating to the park in which he is so interested and of the board of management of which he is a member. In regard to some of Mr. Swinburne's other points concerning this park, it is a fairly narrow strip of land running south of the ocean road. There are already a large number of tracks with sign posts leading to viewpoints and vantage points.

The Hon. 1. A. SWINBURNE.-They have to be maintained.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-That is so, but perhaps the greatest problem the committee of management will face will be to keep the area clear of rubbish and garbage. That will be a continuing and heavy task during the summer in particular.

The Hon. 1. A. SWINBURNE.-And the regulation of parking.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-That will have some effect, but when I have been there during summer the crowd has been spr·ead over a large area and there has not been a mass gathering at anyone point. Not long ago a grant was made to enable the Loch Ard cemetery to be put in order. I agree with Mr. Swinburne that it will be the respon­sibility of the National Parks Authority to maintain the cemetery when it takes control. I do not think I need say any more in regard to Mr. Swinburne's other comments, because they are really matters for the Minister and the Authority to consider, and they do not really affect the Bill.

I was impressed by the statements made by Mr. Fulton, and I thought they had the approval of members of the Labour party, so I discussed the matter with the Minister respon­sible for the Bill, who has agreed to delete what I believe are the most objectionable parts of clause 4, but perhaps it would be better to indicate what is proposed when that clause is being considered.

The clause was agreed to, as was clause 3.

Clause 4 (Power to Authority to permit erection of memorial cairn in Wilson's Promontory National Park) .

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-1 have examined the amendment proposed to be moved by Mr. Fulton, but I do not intend to discuss it at this stage. It creates a new principle which I cannot possibly accept at the moment, and I shall

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propose later that progress be re­ported so that the amendment may be further examined, and later this day I could inform the honorable member and the Committee whether the Government is prepared to accept it. I understand what is involved in the amendment proposed by Mr. Fulton, and I think if the action I suggest is adopted a great deal of time will be saved.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-Why do you say that you cannot accept the amendment?

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-This is not my Bill, and the Government has not seen the amendment. It is only reasonable that we should have a few minutes in which to examine it.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Provine-e) .-1 have listened to the remarks of the Minister with great interest, and although he has had a copy of my amendment for only a few minutes he knew last night what my intentions were. I informed him that I knew it 'was not his Bill, and I saw the Minister of State Development and discussed the matter with him. He informed me that if I proceeded with my proposal the Government would withdraw the Bill. I think that is a serious statement to make.

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-1 have given the Com­mittee an undertaking that if progress is reported, I will discuss the matter with the Minister of State Develop­ment and bring back an answer. I do not think I can do any more than that at this stage. It may be helpful if progress is reported, in view of my undertaking, which I will honour.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province) .-1 am happy to agree to the Minister's suggestion, because the Committee will have the opportunity of discussing the matter further at a later stage.

The Hon. A. W. KNIGHT (Mel­bourne West Province) .-I should like to clear up one point. I dis­cussed this Bill with the Minister of Health and the Minister of State

Development and then took it back to my party Leaders, who said that at that stage everything would be in order. Then Mr. Fulton indicated that he was proposing to submit an amendment. My party has considered this amendment, and I desire to make the position clear as to what has happened.

Progress was reported.

SHEEP OWNERS PROTECTION (AMENDMENT) BILL.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-1 move-

That this Bill be now read a second time.

It changes the system under the Sheep Owners Protection Act of assisting in the prevention of sheep stealing in Victoria. Sheep stealing is a common offence, and up to date this year some 8,000 sheep have disappeared in Victoria. Of course, many of them have been recovered, but others have not. There is no doubt that it was a wise move when in 1935 this Parliament passed legisla­tion to try to prevent sheep stealing. The Sheep Owners Protection Act of 1935 set up a system of permits and permit officers and laid down in principle that no sheep shall be transported in Victoria unless a permit is issued in respect of each journey and that certain particulars are contained on the permit. This enabled the police to check whether there was authority for transporting the sheep. The legislation was administered by the Department of Agriculture. Over the years under many Governments, the administra­tion became rather loose. Many per­mit issuing officers were appointed, permit books were freely distributed, and it became difficult for the police to determine whether a permit had been issued in respect of each load of sheep.

Honorable members will recall that in 1962 there was a request from people representing sheep owners for a tightening up of the provisions of the Act, and that was

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done. The administration was handed over to the police where it really belongs, the number of permit issuing officers was drastically reduced, and, generally, the administration of the Act was intended to become tighter. However, when the Act came into force at the beginning of last year, further protests were made, princi­pally on the ground that the legislation was difficult to observe. The restric­tion in the number of permit issuing officers made it difficult for the necessary permits to be obtained. It was difficult to obtain a permit in advance because, in some cases, the particulars to be entered on the permits were not readily known and, as a result, a conference of interested parties was held in December to dis­cuss the matter with a view to ascertaining whether there was an equally effective way of assisting the police in this important task, without making it so difficult for the owners of the sheep. This Bill is the result of that conference. I believe I can say that the measure has the support of all the persons who are concerned, whether they are sheep owners or sheep carriers.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.-It did have their support. I do not know whether it has their support now.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-We shall see about that. The system which is intended by this Bill to supplant the previous legislation represents a complete change. This measure pro­poses that the actual sheep carrier shall be licensed by means of an annual licence obtainable in the same way as a second-hand dealer or marine dealer is licensed, namely, through a local court, with opportunity given to the police to object to the granting of a licence if the applicant has con­victions, or if something unfavourable is known about him. On the granting of a licence, the holder can carry sheep anywhere without a special permit for each truckload of sheep. The other alternative is that sheep may be carried by the owner, or members of his family-his spouse or children-or employees without any

documentation, but if any other per­son carries them, it is expected under the Bill that he will be authorized in writing by the owner. That is basically the proposal. The Bill adopts the scheme which is embraced in several other Acts under which licences are issued.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-It leaves untouched the proviSions of the Com­mercial Goods Vehicles Act, under which certain" licences are issued.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-The Bill will not interfere with that legisla­tion. It will alter the existing system concerning licences, and it is thought the legislation will be made much less onerous. The new legislation will make it an offence for a person to carry sheep by motor car on the road unless he holds a sheep carrier's licence, or has the owner's written authority, or is the owner himself or a member of the owner's family.

Clause 3 repeals sections 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 of the principal Act relat­ing to permits. Provision is also made for applications for licences to be made to a court of petty sessions, and the Bill sets out how they shall be dealt with. The automatic renewal of licences is provided for, unless, in the meantime, there has been a re­vocation of the licence. The right of revocation is granted to the court of petty sessions, which is the court that gral)ts the licences in the first place.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.-Does the Government believe that this measure will prevent sheep stealing?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-No, but it thinks the Bill will assist the police in detecting sheep stealing. At least, it will limit sheep stealing to some extent and probably to a greater extent than did the previous legisla­tion.

There are further provisions in the Bill which give the police greater powers to stop vehicles and ask questions of the driver concerning the loads of sheep. The police did not have these powers previously,

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and they have been recommended by all parties. The police think this Bill will assist them in stopping vehicles in transit and finding out whether the sheep on board belong to the owner or are being carried under authority.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.-The police would be able to pull up Mr. Gross?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-That is so, and Mr. Gross would have to satisfy them that he was acting legitimately. A check will be kept on the various loads, because a sheep carrier will be required to carry a log-book, similar to the one to which the Commercial Goods Vehicles Act refers, with entries concerning the load of sheep, the destination, and so on, and this information will be avail­able to the police if they stop a trans­port in order to make inquiries.

As a means of tracing stolen sheep skins which may be disposed of through auctioneers, it is considered desirable that the auctioneer should record details of sheep skins solq, and clause 6 of the Bill makes appro­priate amendments to the Auction Sales Act 1958 to enable that to be done. After full consultation with interested parties, the Government believes that this Bill will work at least as well as the previous legis­lation-we hope it will work a good deal better than it. We feel that it will make the transport of sheep more simple for the people who must have their sheep transported from one place to another. The task of the police in detecting stealing will be made at least a~ easy as it is at present, and possibly a good deal easier.

The Hon. ARTHUR SMITH (Bendigo Province).-This is a short measure, as was stated by the Min­ister of Immigration in his second­reading speech, to amend the Sheep Owners Protection Act. If it were not so late in the session, 1 would move for the adjournment of the debate for six months, so that the Bill could be reconsidered and re-drafted by the

Government. It is doubtful whe­ther the pres-ent measure will materially improve the legislation which it is designed to amend. Since this Bill was first introduced into Parliament, it has been slaughtered, drawn and quartered, and the body has been disposed of as unfit for human consumption, with the result that all that is left is the skin to brand. That is the sum total of the Bill. The legislation will not be effective.

If my memory is correct, the Gov­ernment was similarly warned when the previous measure was under con­sideration. I then said that it would not be effective, and my predictions have been proven to be correct. In the second-reading notes circulated by the Minister of Immigration, there appeared these comments-

Since the Act came into operation on 1st January, 1963, problems have arisen which make it very difficult to administer the law effectually and economically. That is exactly what has taken place, and I venture to suggest that this Bill will be equally as ineffectual as its predecessor. Members of my party have had insufficient time dur­ing which to examine the proposals in this Bill, which was amended in another place. We throw the full responsibility for the measure onto the shoulders of the Government. Whilst we are prepared to support the Bill, we will not accept any re­sponsibility for it, because it has been brought forward so late in the ses­sional period. Members of Parlia­ment should have sufficient time dur­ing which to ascertain the views of the. various interested people before debating measures of this type. With the reservation which I have already expressed, my party supports the Bill.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE (North-Eastern Province) .-1 fear that I am in the same position as Mr. Smith is regarding this Bill. We shall support it because we feel that, although it will not do any good, probably it will not do any harm. I think the Government did have a reasonable Bill originally, following

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the conference held with the interested parties. However, the Bill these interested parties expressed agreement with was in a very different form from the measure now before us. I do not think too many sheep owners will agree with it.

I am having some difficulty in ascertaining what remains in the Bill after the treatment it received in another place, because I have not had a great deal of time to examine it. I believe that in another place two principles were taken out of the measure. Charges for licences were deleted, as was the most vital part dealing with final and conclusive evidence of ownership. I refer to the stencilling of the sheep skins. If somebody wants to steal sheep effectively, the easiest way of getting rid of the evidence is to kill the animal. Often they are sold and slaughtered before the owner wakes up that they are gone.

The Hon. K. S. GRoss.-I would put it the other way round-they are slaughtered and sold.

The Hon. 1. A. SWINBURNE.­That is the alternative. In the measure with which the organiza­tions agreed, there was a requirement that each skin had to be marked with a registered stencil mark so that it could be identified. There is nothing in this Bill relating to the identifica­tion of skins. I understand that this provision was taken out at the behest of the Melbourne City Council. All the country butchers to whom I have referred this measure were quite happy about it. I consider that now the kernel of the Bill has been taken away. In any legislation controlling the transport of sheep, there must be some control over sheep skins.

A Bill brought in by the Govern­ment during the last session of Parliament, even though it was amended a great deal during its passage, ended up by being a com­plete fiasco because of a requirement that a person had to obtain a prescribed form before he made application to obtain a permit to

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transport sheep. During a court case, it was realized that nobody had noticed this provision in the measure, and that is why the prosecution failed.

I consider that the principle -in this measure of the owner accepting responsibility for his sheep is the correct one. If he carries them himself, he accepts full responsi­bility. If a carrier carries them, he must obtain a licence and carry a log-book. However, although I con­sider that the principle is a good one, there are one or two interesting points to be noted. I do not know how sheep owners will be made aware of the actual conditions which must be complied with. I under­stand that a licensed sheep carrier will obtain a log-book from the police and be issued with a set of regUlations informing him what he has to do. A carrier who does not possess a licence will not be educated in any way, and sheep owners in the main will not know what procedure must be adopted. Proposed new section 9c provides, inter alia-

(1) Every authority in writing given by an owner of sheep to any person to carry sheep on his behalf shall set out-

(a) the date on which the authority is given;

(b) the name and address of the owner of the sheep;

( c) the name and address of the person authorized to carry the sheep;

(d) the number of sheep authorized to be carried and the breed and sex thereof; and

(e) the place from which and the place to which the sheep are to be carried.

Sub-section (6) of proposed new section 90 provides-

Where sheep are carried by motor car on any road in contravention of any provision of sub-section (1) of this section, the owner of the motor car and the driver thereof and any person who is in charge of the motor car and who is travelling thereon shall severally be guilty of an offence against this Act.

I do not know how persons are to be educated to enable them to comply with those requirements. If a person carrying sheep does not

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comply with each requirement and he is pulled up by a policeman, he will find himself liable for penalties under the Act. It would be some­what harsh that a person should be liable to a penalty if he had details of the date on which authority was given to him, the name and address of the owner of the sheep, the num­ber of sheep authorized to be carried and the breed and sex of them, but had omitted to find out details of one of the other requirements. If the Minister in charge of the Bill can say how all persons in Victoria who are likely to carry sheep and all owners of sheep are to be made aware of these requirements, I shall be happy. I consider that the Government will have a big education problem in front of it.

I think the rest of the Bill is rea­sonable, and I have tried to go through it in the short time at my dis­posal. As I have stated, the only provision relating to the identification of sheep skins has been removed from the Bill. In view of the fact tha t this measure has been placed before us so late in the session, the Government must accept responsi­bility for what is being done.

The motion was agreed to. The Bill was read a second time

and committed. Clause 1 was agreed to. Clause 2 (Interpretation).

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-1 wish to deal with the two points raised by Mr. Swin­burne. In connexion with the mark­ing of sheep skins, he will be aware that the principal Act is in two parts. One deals with carriage of sheep and the other with sheep skins. The pro­posal concerning the branding or marking of sheep skins did not form part of the original representations made to the Government and was not part of proposals made by any of the primary producer organizations. The suggestion came from sheep skin dealers themselves, and it was accep­ted as a reasonable way of trying to have some sort of check on sheep

which had been killed. I agree that that is desirable. Since the Bill was first drafted, a number of suggestions have been made relating to the sheep skins part of the principal Act. Re­presentations have been made that the particular form of marking sheep may lead to difficulties. It has been stated that, in a big abattoir, it may in fact be impractical. Because we are considering this legislation in the dying hours of the session, the Government thought the matter ought to be thoroughly examined at a practical level to ensure that each proposal was workable. The Com­mittee should not regard this Bill as the end of the relevant part of the principal Act. There are other pro­posals which we or a future Govern­ment will have to examine.

Mr. Swinburne also drew attention to an owner of sheep giving authority in writing to a person to carry sheep on his behalf. I think he has made some reasonable comment on this. It was always the intention of the Government to make forms available setting out what was required. How­ever, it was also felt that these requirements should be set out in the legislation and not left to be prescribed by regulations, and that is why the details are set out in the proposed new section. I agree that this will not altogether solve the problem, becaus·e sheep owners must be made aware of the fact that forms exist and should be instructed how to use them. The same comment applies in part to the permits which were provided for previously. It is a question of education. The forms will be available at police stations for those persons other than licensed sheep carriers who wish to use them.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.-If supplies of forms were sent to auctioneers it would be helpful.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-We can certainly make a very wide distribu­tion of these forms, because they will not be like the permits. They will be of no effect until they are completed. I thank Mr. Swinburne for his sugges­tion. We will certainly try to ensure

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that all primary producer organiza­tions are supplied and that they acquaint their members with the requirements. This will assist in getting the information to those who need it.

The clause was agreed to, as were the remaining clauses.

The Bill was reported to the House without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

MOTOR CAR (INDORSEMENT OF LICENCES) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 29) on the motion of the Hon. R. J. Hamer (Minister of Immigration) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD (Doutta Galla Province) .-According to the Minister's explanation, this Bill is to cover the embarrassment which arose out of the passing of a measure last year in relation to the indorse­ment of licences. Some difficulty arose from the necessity of calling in all licences that would have been affected in the remainder of the three­year term, after which they would have become subject to being in­dorsed in rotation for the fresh three­year period, which would have spread the indorsements over that period and would have meant a lot less work for the Chief Commissioner of Police. This measure is to bridge that interim period until the new licences can be secured. This arrangement will enable those people in possession of original licences to remain with them un­indorsed until they obtain a fresh licence in the subsequent three-year period.

I should like the Minister to ex­plain one point. Sub-clause (2) of clause 2 of the Bill provides:-

At the end of section seven of the Motor Car Act 1963 there shall be inserted the following sub-section:-

(5) Any person who immediately before the commencement of this section was the holder of a licence to drive a motor car other than a motor cycle shall during the balance of the term of his licence current at the said commencement be entitled without any indorsement of his licence in that regard to drive any

heavy vehicle within the meaning of the Principal Act which is not of the kind described in paragraph (a) or paragraph (b) of the proviso to sub-section (2) of section 22 of the Principal Act as in force immediately before the said commence­ment.

Sub-section (2) of section 22 of the Act relates to the issue of licences to drivers of motor vehicles. The proviso to this sub-section states-

Provided that a licence to drive a motor car (other than a motor cycle) issued pur­suant to this sub-section shall not entitle the holder to drive upon a highway-

(a) A motor car with forward control constructed for the carriage of pas­sengers and with seating capacity for more than twelve adult persons.

(b) A motor car (other than a motor car with forward control) constructed for the carriage of passengers and with seating capacity for more than twelve adult persons.

(c) An articulated motor car.

Paragraphs (a) and (b) merely distinguish between vehicles with forward control and those without forward control. The drivers of such vehicles will be required to obtain the necessary indorsement for the balance of the period. Para­graph (c) makes provision in regard to an articulated motor car. No doubt such vehicles are used mainly for the carriage of goods. They are left outside this provision of the Bill and the drivers of these vehicles will not be required to have their licences indorsed for the remainder of the three-year term. Perhaps the Minister will explain the reason for the differentiation. It is true that the drivers of passenger vehicles are in charge of the passen­gers' lives in a direct sense, but it is also true to say that such vehicles are involved in fewer accidents than are articulated vehicles.

In granting an exemption to the drivers of articulated vehicles, it seems to me that the Government is exempting a class of vehicle which has the highest accident rate. The drivers of some vehicles are guilty of glaring breaches of the regulations and the tray of such a vehicle could cut through another vehicle like a knife. If there is any risk in not

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requiring the drivers of passenger vehicles to have their licences in­dorsed, there is equal risk in allow­ing the licences of drivers of articu­lated vehicles to remain unindorsed. Perhaps the Minister will explain why the Government has made this differ­entiation.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE (North-Eastern Province) .-This Bill is what might be called a correcting procedure in relation to a measure which was brought in last year and which caused some unforeseen administrative difficulties. Thousands of licences have to be dealt with, which will take some time. If licences are to be indorsed in the manner intended, I see no alternative but to adopt the procedure proposed. . The Country party offers no objection to this measure.

The motion was agreed to. The Bill was read a second time

and committed. Clause 1 was agreed to. Clause 2 (Right of persons with

unindorsed licences to drive certain heavy vehicles during currency of existing licences).

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-During the second­reading debate, I observed that section 7 concerns not only heavy vehicles and the required indorse­ments of licences of those who drive them but also the whole of the probationary licence section, the proclamation of which is dependent upon this Bill. I indicated that the Government proposes to proclaim this whole section to take effect as from the 15th June this year, so that on the 15th June next this section will relate not only to heavy vehicles for the future but also to pro­bationary licences. Drivers who are licensed on and after the 15th June will receive a new sort of licence of a different colour from the ordinary one, clearly marked "Probationary", and we hope that from then on we shall see the effects which the Government hopes will flow from that legislation.

I shall deal now with Mr. Merrifield's point, although I am not sure that I fully understood it. In passing this measure the House accepts the fact that there will be a delay equivalent to the balance of the longest licence period before the full effect is felt. On the other hand, there will be acceptance of the fact that for a period of almost three years in some cases there will be people entitled to drive articulated vehicles and trailer combinations without having their licences specifi­cally indorsed. That is something that has to be accepted. We did not originally intend to accept that situation, but we have been convinced that the administrative difficulties of not accepting it would be so great that the Motor Registration Branch would be unworkable for a period.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.-Has this Bill any relationship to the test­ing of the holders of motor car licences to drive semi-trailers?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-Yes.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.-They will not be required to be tested?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-They will be, as they come up. The only difference is that instead of bringing them all up together, testing them and indorsing their licences, they will come up for testing and indorsement as their licences fall due for renewal.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.-If their licences are already indorsed to drive a semi-trailer, they are all right?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-Yes. This is a transitional prOVISIon, which simply continues the present situation in relation to all existing holders of licences up to the termination of the licences. I accept the fact, as indicated by Mr. Merri­field, that the full operation of the measure will be delayed, but on consideration I think the Committee will find that acceptable. There is a precedent in 1952 for such a situ­ation.

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The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD (Doutta Galla Province) .-1 am not sure whether the Minister of Immi­gration appreciated what I meant, or perhaps I may not have understood his answer. When the current licence was issued, probably it was indorsed. But, during the three-year period, a driver may qualify to drive a passenger vehicle, and it will then become necessary for him to obtain an indorsement in order to drive such a vehicle. However, it seems to me that the provision will not apply to those who are driving semi-trailers for the carriage of goods. If one type of vehicle is more dangerous than others, it is the semi­trailer which is used for commercial purposes.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-1 think I understand the point made by Mr. Merrifield. All that this proposed new sub-sec­tion allows is that, during the remain­der of the term of the current licence, a driver may, without indorsement, drive any heavy vehicle. The defini­tion of a heavy vehicle is a motor car weighing more than 3 tons unladen or designed for the carriage of passengers and with a seating capacity for more than twelve adult persons not including the driver. It does not include the articulated motor car or large trailer combina­tion. Nothing in this proposed new sub-section will entitle a driver to drive an articulated motor car or large trailer combination. They are not included in the definition of a heavy vehicle.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD.­Does it not provide for an exemption? It would seem to leave out the provision which covers the semi­articulated goods vehicle.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-I must disagree with Mr. Merrifield. Such drivers will need to have indorsement. However, I shall examine the point which the honorable member has raised.

The clause was agreed to. The Bill was reported to the House

without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

ADOPTION OF CHILDREN BILL. Th.e message from the Assembly

relatmg to the amendments in this Bill was taken into consideration.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-The Assembly has made two amendments to clause 16 of this Bill. I move-

That the amendments be agreed to.

The first amendment omitted para­graph (a) of sub-clause (1) of clause 16. This is the most important clause dealing with the discharge of an adoption order and the power of the court to cancel the effect of an adop­tion order if it is satisfied that it was obtained by fraud, duress or any other improper means, or that there was some other exceptional reason why, subject to the welfare and interests of the child, the adoption order should be discharged. It is an important safeguard that an adoption order obtained in this way should be enabled to be revoked. Paragraph (a) of sub-clause (1) of clause 16 renders that impossible if the child has attained the age of 21 years. Honorable members will recall that this was based on an observation made in the United Nations publica­tion which was much discussed during the debate on this Bill. It was to the effect that the annulment and revocation of an adoption order was most unsatisfactory if the child had attained 21 years of age. In other words, there should be some certainty whether the child was an adopted child or not, and it should not be competent for an adoption order to be annulled after that stage.

Sir Reginald Sholl, a Justice of the Supreme Court of Victoria, was involved in such a case. There are occasionally cases when, even though the adopted child is over the age of 21 years, the adoption order should be discharged. I cannot, for the moment, quote an authority. How­ever, there was one such case which involved fraud concerning property. and the purpose was to give the adopted child an advantage in rela­tion to property. The Government

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has considered this aspect. It is reluctant to change the Bill because it agrees with the principle of certainty for adoption orders. How­ever, it is agreed that there may be occasional c?ses where it may be most unfortunate and even unjust that the adoption order be not dis­charged. It is now left wide open to the court to discharge an adoption order if, in all the circumstances, it thinks fit. I have no doubt that the court will bear in mind the un­desirability, except in the most extreme cases, of discharging an adoption order when the child has, in fact, reached the age of 21 years. I think it can be left to the Supreme Court to exercise that discretion.

The second amendment merely clarified paragraph (c) of sub­clause (5) of clause 16 which preserves, if an adoption order is discharged, the rights, privileges, duties and so on of the child and other per~ons, without prejudice to any right or interest that became vested in any person. Sir Reginald Sholl suggested that that should be confined to proprietary rights or interests and relationships of that sort.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-You mean property rights.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-Y.es, but Sir Reginald Sholl suggested pro­prietary rights. I think it means the same thing in this context, but perhaps this is not the occasion to put it right again. I agree with Mr. Feltham that perhaps "property" would be the better word, but as the Assembly has made this amendment I suggest that the House agree to it.

The motion was agreed to.

RACING (INTERSTATE TOTALIZATORS) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 29) on the motion of the Hon. R. W. Mack (Minister of Health) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. G. J. O'CONNELL (Mel· bourne Province).-The purpose of this small measure is to make provi­sion for totalizator off-course invest­ments in other States or Territories to be fed into the Victorian off-course system. Apparently the chairman of the Tasmanian Racing Commission carried out an investigation on behalf of the Tasmanian Government, and recommended that an off-course totalizator scheme be introduced into Tasmania by incorporating invest­ments into the Victorian Totalizator Agency Board's pool. Of course, the recommendation has to be accepted and adopted by the Tasmanian Government, and whether that will happen is problematical. If it knew as much about off-course totalizators and the income derived therefrom, as does the Victorian Government, it might decide to establish its own totalizator.

It is apparent that in certain States or Territories where an off-course totalizator is not operating, it would be more economic to introduce a system whereby investments are fed into the Victorian totalizator. It is stated in the second-reading notes tha t the Victorian Board has the necessary experience and skilled persons to operate such a scheme efficiently, and that might be a vital point. The Victorian scheme leaves much to be desir·ed. I suggest that the system operating in Perth, particularly in regard to the payment of dividends, should be adopted in Victoria. In Perth, the dividend is paid a quarter of an hour after the race has been run. In Victoria, when a person places a bet on the off­course totalizator, the dividend is announced after the race, but a successful investor cannot collect his money until the next day. Which­ever party forms the Government after the forthcoming elections should examine that position because the system now operating in Victoria is causing the loss of a great deal of revenue. There is a difference of opinion between the States whether off-course totalizators should be

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introduced. Some States want them, and others do not. In addition, some States are jealous of the r,evenue derived by Victoria from its scheme, but I understand that the West Australian Government is satisfied with its scheme. I believe the reference to "Territories" relates in the main to Canberra, where the "Great White Father" is in charge. I do not know what his attitude is towards off-course totalizators, but as he is a supporter of the Carlton Football Club he might like to have a dollar each way.

Provision is made in proposed new section 116HA for agreements to be made with any State or Territory to feed investments into the Victorian off-course totalizator. Provision is also made for commissions to be deducted as provided in the existing Act, subject to such alterations and modifications as the Governor in Council determines. This raises an interesting question. I know that the "Great White Father" in Canberra will want a large share of the commission, and I should think the Premier of Tasmania will be of the same opinion, so where will the commission come from? It cannot come from the punters' pool of 88 per cent., so that leaves only the 8 per cent. which is distributed to the racing clubs. The Government took three-quarters per cent. from the Totalizator Agency Board and left it with one-quarter per cent., and it will not be giving anything away. I do not know where the commission will come from. Perhaps the Minister will enlighten us at the Committee stage. I expect that it might come from the 8 per cent., but I could be wrong.

There is nothing wrong with the Bill, which is a step in the right direction. Provided that the other States do not examine the revenue that the Victorian Government receives from this source, it may be possible for some agreements to be reached. If the Tasmanian Govern­ment investigates the revenue angle, it may perhaps introduce its own

system, but I assume that most of the betting would take place on Victorian and New South Wales races. Of cours'e, the Tasmanian Government may be able to find some way of surmounting that obstacle. I shall say no more about that aspect because my party expects to be the Government next session and may want mor'e income.

The Bill proposes to extend the powers of the Totalizator Agency Board to enable persons outside Victoria to make investments on the Victorian off-course totalizator. The Board may even be invited to operate an off-course totalizator' outside Victoria, or to provide a particular service in connexion with off-course totalizator facilities outside this State. The Labour party has no objection to the Bill, and I have no doubt that the Minister supports it because he is looking forward to getting away to Warrnambool next week where he will endeavour to pick the card.

The motion was agreed to. The Bill was read a second time and

committed. Clause 1 was agreed to. Clause 2 (Power to Board to

provide off-course betting facilities for other States or Territories).

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-In answer to Mr. O'Connell, I regretfully point out that, owing to pressure of business in Melbourne, I shall be unable to attend the race-meetings at Warr­nambool on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of next week, although I should like, 'to be able to do so. I cannot give any clear statement concerning the other matter which was raised by the honorable member because the Bill provides that any agreement shall be a matter of negotiation between the States.

The Hon. G. J. O'CONNELL.-It will be interesting to see what happens.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-It will be extremely interesting. Any arrange­ment between the contracting States should ensure that the bettors will

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receive at least 88 per cent. of the pool, and therefore the necessary commission must come out of the amount paid to the Totalizator Agency Board, or from the commis­sion received by the Government. Probably, the Government may ~e prepared to surrender some commIS­sion.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY.-Does not the Act provide that 9 per cent. must come back to the Government?

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-I am not suggesting that this Bill authorizes the allocation of part of the 12 per cent. which is now retained from the investments on the totalizator for the other sources in accordance with the Governor in Council's approval. At this stage, I cannot indicate whether the money will come out of the 8 per cent. which goes to the Totalizator Agency Board or out of the 3 or 4 per cent. which comes back to the Government. It could be taken from both sources. I cannot supply that information, because the Bill is designed to allow this agree­ment to be made without determining out of which fund the money shall come.

The Hon. G. J. O'CONNELL (Mel­bourne Province).-The amount of one-quarter per cent. cannot be touched because that must go to the racing clubs to recompense them for the establishment of the Totalizator Agency Board offices, which are now operating throughout Victoria. In my opinion, there should be no inter­ference with the percentage paid to the punters, because they already have enough to contend with.

The clause was agreed to. The Bill was reported to the House

without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

NATIONAL PARKS BILL. The House went into Committee

for the further consideration of this Bill.

Considera tion was resumed of clause 4, providing, inter alia-

(2) If the Authority permits a cairn to be erected subject to any covenant term or condition with respect to its maintenance

and repair and the cairn is not kept in proper repair accordingly the Authority may from time to time cause the cairn to be repaired or may cause it be demolished and removed as it sees fit and may recover the cost incurred in so doing from any person whether a member of the said body or not who is responsible or liable for or in res­pect of the observance of the covenant term or condition.

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-Progress was reported on clause 4 to afford me an oppor­tunity, in conjunction with the Minis­ter who is in charge of the measure, to examine the proposal submitted by Mr. Fulton which, of course, cuts across, and differs considerably from the Bill as it was originally intro­duced into this Chamber. If Mr. Ful­ton's amendment is accepted, some of the objects of the Commando As­sociation of Victoria will be defeated. I think it is fair that I should give the Committee the reason for that statement. I have some notes, signed by Mr. W. J. Taylor, who is the honorary secretary of the associa­tion' and is employed in Melbourne at the Victorian head office of the Commercial Bank of Australia. Para­graph 5 of the notes reads-

The commemorative cairn will be visited by our members continually and the members of the committee responsible for its erection will take pride in seeing that maintenance, if required, is attended to during their lifetime.

This raises a question which was posed earlier by Mr. Fulton, on which I commented, that, in 40 or 50 years' time none of the members of the asso~iation will be available to main­tain the cairn and there may not be any money to meet the cost of its maintenance.

To overcome the objection which I thought had so rightly been taken by Mr. Fulton concerning the possible demolition and removal of the cairn, I proposed an amendment which was somewhat different from the one sub­mitted by Mr. Fulton. I proposed by my amendment to delete from sub­clause (2) of clause 4 the right of the National Parks Authority to cause the cairn to be demolished or removed.

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The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-You did not propose to delete the reference to the recovery of the expenditure involved in maintaining the cairn?

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-Not at all, and I shall deal with that aspect. If honorable members examine the clause, they will see that the words following those which I propose to delete are-. . . and may recover the cost incurred in so doing

which indicate that this is not a man­datory provision on the National Parks Authority. The words have been included, I suggest, for the pur­pose of allowing the National Parks Authority to say to the Commando Association of Victoria, " You wanted this maintenance work carried out and it cost so much; we are applying to you for that money." If the as­sociation at any time was able to say, "We have no money," what purpose would there be in the National Parks Authority doing any more than maintenance? I under­stand that is all that the Authority would be able to do under the amendment which I propose. The Government has considered the views expressed by Mr. Fulton and by the Labour party. It understands the attitude they have adopted on this matter, but it does not agree that it is the proper one. However, rather than hold up the measure, we are prepared to accept Mr. Fulton's amendment. At the same time, we point out that we cannot understand why the wishes of the Commando Association of Victoria, the members of which discussed this measure long ago and stated they were quite satis­fied with the clause as drafted, should be disregarded.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD.­Was the letter sent in the concluding stages of the negotiations, or at an early stage?

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-Let me be quite frank with Mr. Merrifield on this point. The letter I quoted from was dated 30th April, and was addressed to Mr. Thorn. However,

prior to that, I received a letter dated 4th March, before this question ever arose in the Chamber. This was a two-page letter of comments by the associa tion on the Bill and the pre­amble. The only reference to the aspect we are discussing was that sub-clauses (2) and (3) of clause 4 were quite acceptable as drafted. It is clear that the association, from the 4th of March up till to-day, did not vary in its opinion that it was satisfied with those provisiQp.s. That is the situation I put before the Com­mittee at this stage. However, if the amendment is persisted with, the Government will not object to it.

The Hon. D. J. WALTERs.-Can you explain the meaning of the last few lines of sub-clause (2) of clause 4 regarding the recovery of costs?

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-I have tried to explain that provision, but apparently I have not succeeded. The Commando Association of Victoria wants to maintain this cairn for as long a period as it can.

The Hon. D. J. WALTERS.-But what about the position when all of its members are dead?

The Han. R. W. MACK.-Then nobody will remain from whom costs can be recovered.

The Hon. D. J. WALTERs.-Are you sure that sub-clause (2) does not cover their heirs?

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-lt could.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-I accept Mr. Feltham's advice without question as being a considered opinion.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-It is not a considered opinion, but I should think that normally, if a person were responsible for anything, it could well be that his estate would also be responsible for it.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-That may well be the case, but there is no intention of using the provision in that way. I am 100 per cent. with Mr. Fulton on this question. If the National Parks Authority, a State instrumentality with the resources of

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the State behind it no matter how limited they may be in regard to this particular department, is going to haggle and quibble about what must be a comparatively small amount of money, we will get nowhere. Quite frankly, I think the cost to the State would not exceed £1 a year. An expenditure of perhaps £10 or £15 every ten years or so should maintain this cairn, not taking into account any of the surroundings.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY.-Will you agree that sub-clause (2) is badly drafted because it is couched in the singular?

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-All that I can say in reply to Mr. Bradbury is that the intention may not be well expressed, but I am not prepared to go any further. I thougpt the amend­ment I proposed would have got over the difficulty which has been properly raised. That is why, when the ques­tion was raised, I immediately sought the approval of the Minister of State Development for the amendment of this clause.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE.­There is nothing in Mr. Fulton's pro­posed amendment which would pre­vent the Commando Association of Victoria from making a contribution or carrying out the maintenance of the cairn. All that his amendment seeks is to hold the National Parks Authority responsible for the main­tenance of the cairn.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-:-All I can say is that the association claimed that it wanted to establish this cairn and, whilst it was able to, assume responsibility for its maintenance.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY.-There is power already provided for that to be done in sub-clause (1).

The Hon. D. J. WALTERS.-Also in sub-clause (2).

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-Sub­clause (2) will disappear from the Bill if the proposed amendment is accepted, and I have already stated that the Government is prepared to

accept the amendment. Perhaps I should say no more and let the matter rest.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province) .-It is hard to under­stand the attitude of the Government in relation to this matter. I move-

That sub-clause (2) be omitted with the view of inserting the following sub-clause:-

If the Authority permits a cairn to be erected the Authority shall be responsible for the repair and proper maintenance of the said cairn and surroundings.

This is a simple amendment, which will in no way prevent the Commando Association of Victoria from doing what it wants to do. I commend these men for the steps they have taken to erect a memorial to those who were in commando units during the war and who served so gallantly. Over many years, I have never wavered in my belief that symbols of the nature proposed are worth more than gold when we are in trouble.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-You and I are not at cross-purposes over this.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-I know we are not, but the Minister of State Development and the Government threatened to withdraw the Bill.

The Hon. G. W. THoM.-That is not so.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-The Minister indicated that to me last night. Mr. Thom should not interject when he does not know what was said to me. I told the Minister of State Development that if he did so, it would be his responsibility, not mine. He is the Minister responsible for the Bill.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-I am responsible temporarily.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-The Minister of Health is responsible as Minister in charge of the Bill in this House. However, the Minister of State Development is responsible for the legislation. I would not want to take away from any body of returned men any of the things they hold most dear. I was prompted to move my amendment because of the wording

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of sub-clause (2) of clause 4. 1 had not thought a person in a responsible position would phrase a clause in a Bill in such offensive language. I feel that I am speaking in rather a kindly way, because 1 do not want to get heated on this subject. This measure should be considered on a non-party basis and away from petty bargain­ing.

1 have some knowledge of the autocratic manner in which the National Parks Authority conducts its business. On my files at home, 1 have a letter sent to a member of a comnlittee forbidding any members of the committee from referring to the outside public discussions regard­ing the National Parks Authority at a committee meeting. When I told the Minister of State Develop­ment about that last night, he said that it was quite right because a lot of tittle-tattle was put around. I told him that in discussing what happened at such meetings no State secrets would be revealed.

If I were a representative of a municipality on a committee and considered that the committee was acting contrary to the best interests of the people concerned, I would consider it my duty to let those people know. Any public authority should be prepared to make public its intentions.

In my lifetime, I have seen memorials erected to men of three wars-the South African war, the 1914-18 war, and the 1939-45 war. Many of the small memorials erected to the memory of men who died in the South African war fell into disrepair many years ago. After the first world war and the second world war, returned soldiers were adamant that memorials should be ,erected to men and women who gave their lives, and a number of those memorials have become dilapidated.

I have previously related that a representative in Australia of the Indian Government, a major-general in the Indian army, on a trip from Canberra to Melbourne, accompanied by a personal servant and a chauffeur,

stopped at all the memorials in the districts through which he passed. Where necessary, they cleaned and washed the memorials, removed the bottles and tins that were strewn about. and cut grass that had been allowed to grow. This gentleman stated that the people of Australia must be extremely busy if they were unable to tend these melnorials. If 1 were one of those responsible for the dilapidated condition of some of t.he memorials in country districts, 1 would hang my head in sham'e. I know that the Minister in charge of the Bill agrees with me in this.

1 have some knowledge of how legislation is prepared, and realize that those responsible for having a Bill drawn up thoroughly detest any alterations being made to it. The Minister has stated that throughout Australia there are men who served in commando units, and they and the relatives of commandos who gave their lives during the war may at some time or other wish to visit Wilson's Promontory, which is more than 100 miles from Melbourne. I should like to think that whenever people visit the memorial cairn, they will find it in good condition and .. treated with the same dignity that surrounds the Shrine of Remem­brance in Melbourne.

If the Minister of State Develop­ment considers that the Commando Association of Victoria will be pre­cluded from taking any action which it may desire to take, that is a matter for the National Parks Authority; it can give any necessary authority which may be sought. I urge the Government to accept the amendment in the spirit in which it has been submitted.

The Hon. A. \Y'. KNIGHT (Mel­bourne West Province) .-1 appreciate what the Minister has said in con­nexion with this Bill. I fully indorse the sentiments expressed by Mr. Fulton, whose speech was typical of a "digger" of the first world war. 1 commend him upon his fighting attitude in this matter. Parliament

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should not pass this Bill without ensuring that the cairn will be safe from desecration. I commend to honorable members-and particu­larly to Mr. Thom, who was a commando during the war-a book entitled The Heroes, by Ronald McKie. A note in the front of it states-

In 1943 and 1944 two of the most daring sea raids of the war were made on Japanese-held Singapore by small parties of men operating from Australia. The first was a brilliant success; the second, a failure. The raiders were men of .. Z " Special Unit, a secret Allied organization of which little has been told. So great was the admiration of the Japanese for the .courage of the raiders that when they captured members of the second party they treated them with reverence. This book tells the wonderful, terrible story of what happened.

That story is a tribute to the gallant commandos, and I cannot eulogize them too highly for the part they played in the war; I know that the Minister of Immigration is well aware of it.

The proposed cairn at Wilson's Promontory National Park will be a fitting memorial to them. I suggest that Mr. Thorn confer with other members of his association on this matter. I doubt whether brick con­struction would stand up to the terrible winter weather, and I con­sider that the cairn should be faced with durable material. Because he did his basic training at Wilson's Promontory, Mr. Thom will appre­ciate what the weather is like there in winter.

Members of the Labour party, for the reasons enunciated by Mr. Fulton, support the amendment. A responsibility rests with the Government when a memorial to servicemen is erected. The Govern­ment should act with honour and pride and not impose strings and ties such as those contained in the Bill.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province) .-In considering the amendment of the Country party and the explanation of the Minister, we accept the fact that

the Commando Association of Vic­toria agreed to the terms laid down by the National Parks Authority or the Government.

When matters of this nature are submitted to Parliament, it is open to members to express their opinions if they consider that the terms are unreasonable and that the State should play some part in the care and maintenance of what should be an honoured memorial. I hope that, by agreeing to the amendment, we will not be excluding the commandos from participation in the care and maintenance of the memorial.

An assurance has been given by the Minister that they will be able to co-operate with the National Parks Authority in looking after it, and doubtless they will treat it as they would a personal treasure. We do not think they should be de­barred, but we believe the State should willingly agree to act as the custodian of this particular memorial. Therefore, we feel that the terms of Mr. Fulton's amendment are much more equitable in regard to a memorial of this type than the origi­nal proposals contained in the Bill.

The Hon. G. W. THOM (South­Western Province) .-1 think the Commando Association of Victoria will be quite happy with the amendment moved by Mr. Fulton. In the first instance, members of the association wanted to regard this as their own shrine and desired the op­portunity of looking after it. I am certain that common sense will pre­vail and that the association will be in agreement with Mr. Fulton's amendment. The memorial plaque to men who were connected with com­mando units is situated at the Shrine of Remembrance in St. Kilda-road. The memorial to be erected at Wilson's Promontory will be basically a memorial to the institution of com­mando training in Australia, but it will also be a memorial to those who gave their lives. There is no neces­sity for honorable members to be upset about this measure, and I am

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certain that the Commando Associa­tion will appreciate the tributes that have been paid to it by members of this House.

The amendment was agreed to, and the clause, as amended, was adopted, a3 was the schedule.

The Bill was reported to the House with an amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

POLICE OFFENCES (ANIMALS) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 28) on the motion of the Hon. R. J. Hamer (Minister of Immigration) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province) .-This is a Bill to amend sections of the Police Offences Act relating to cruelty to animals. Members will recall that on a previous occasion when the Police Offences Act was being debated, two sections were referred to the Statute Law Revision Committee for examination and report. As a result, those provisions in the previous Bill are now resubmitted to Parliament for consideration, together with a provision relating to the keep­ing of private zoos and cruelty to animals which are kept within those zoos. Acts of cruelty can arise in the keeping of animals and the work­ing of animals under conditions which are not favoured by the public. With the disappearance of the horse, offences involving cruelty to working animals have become fewer. At one time, it was not unusual for prosecu­tions to be launched against persons who worked horses under conditions which were not favourable to the animals.

The provisions relating to private zoos have been prompted by a recent prosecution against a gentleman for keeping animals under conditions which were abhorent to any decent citizen. Our party agrees that there is a need to control people who keep private zoos for their own amuse­ment or for the purpose of opening

them to the public. Exemptions from the provisions of this Bill are made in relation to the Zoological Gardens, the Sir Colin MacKenzie Sanctuary at Healesville, the fauna enclosure at the Snob's Creek Fresh Water Fisheries Research Station and Hatchery and any showgrounds under the auspices of a recognized agricul­tural or avicultural society. It is necessary for such exemptions to be made, and we agree with the proposal.

I turn now to the questions which were referred to the Statute Law Revision Committee. The first was the question of the disqualification of persons who had been convicted for a second offence involving cruelty to animals. There are two different subjects to be considered, and I relate my remarks, first, to the person who keeps animals around his home for purposes best known to himself, but does not look after them. There have been instances where people have kept in an emaciated condition quite a number of animals such as cats and dogs, and in many cases it has been necessary for those animals to be taken from the owners and destroyed. This amending Bill is directed against those who are not considered fit and proper persons to have charge of animals and who do not look after them in a reasonable manner.

When discussing cruelty to animals the spotlight has always been directed to the transport of stock, either by road or by rail. The Statute Law Revision Committee recognized that there was a slight degree of un­avoidable cruelty associated with such transport. In an endeavour to satisfy itself about the conditions under which stock is transported, the committee inspected stock transports arriving at the Dandenong sale-yards and also at Newmarket. At Dan­denong the committee obtained a good insight into the methods of bringing cattle to the sale-yards. In only one instance could exception be taken, and that was in relation to a vehicle that was obviously driven by

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a farmer. The vehicle was of sound construction and of a reasonably high standard, but there was a weakness in that the horizontal bars of the cage of the truck were spaced sufficiently wide to permit the legs of an animal to protrude if it should fall to the floor of the truck. In this case, it was obvious that the driver or his assistant was not paying much atten­tion to the load and did not see wh.at was going on.

The Hon. R. W. MAY.-Could it have been by design?

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.­No one would be foolish enough to suggest it. Perhaps there was an obligation on the driver to notice the condition of the animal. The com­mittee found that stock transporters carried out their job in a way which could not be faulted. They dis­charged their transports rapidly and with a minimum of inconvenience to the animals.

Members of the Statute Law Revi­sion Committee discussed with operators some of the matters that exercised their minds, especially the problem of animals falling in the vehicles in the course of transport, causing their legs to protrude from the side of the truck, as was seen at Dandenong. There was quite a variety in the construction of the transports -some were well constructed and of a high standard; in others the same measure of protection to prevent limbs of the animal protruding was not apparent. One operator explained that his vehicle was constructed in such a manner that if an animal fell, there was not enough room to permit its legs to protrude from the truck. Mr. Gross visited the Newmarket sale-yards with the committee and he indicated what could cause sheep to fall, and how their legs would pro­trude from the truck. However. at the same time, it was claimed that, from time to time. the professional stock transport operator inspected his load. It may well be that the Government should re-examine the question of promulgating regulations

to cover the construction of stock transports to meet the situation I have mentioned. Most of the vehicles do not require much altera­tion; the main difficulty applies to the horizontal members 'of the cages.

It was pointed out that transport operators could inspect their sheep or beasts and find the load in order, that they could get back into the truck and drive a mile down the road and a beast might fall. The committee recognized that to a degree cruelty is unavoidable in connexion with the transport of stock. It does not accept the view that stock transport drivers are callous or that the railways are neglectful of the needs of stock. How­ever, on occasions the drivers of vehicles are not particularly con­cerned about the beasts in their trucks. This would apply to only a small minority, and I refer particu­larly to a case at South Melbourne where a charge of cruelty to animals was sustained.

The Statute Law Revision Com­Inittee also considered the disqualifi­cation provisions contained in the Bill. It was put to the com­mittee and also to Parliament that, because of some particular set of circumstances, a stock transport driver could lose his means of liveli­hood by being disqualifi·ed. This measure now provides an additional safeguard to enable the stock trans­port operator to protect himself against unfair disqualification.

The next question to which I refer is whether it should be permissible for certain people to enter private property to destroy animals that were behaving in such a manner and in such circumstances as would be likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to any person. After much evidence was heard, the Statute Law Revision Committee recommended that the claus·e should be approved. It believes that certain circumstances could occur from time to time where it would be necessary, for the protec­tion of the individual, for some person to enter private property to destroy

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an animal. It is considered that this provision will not be abused. The committee expects that people who are called upon to destroy animals will act with common s'ense and will not abuse their authority in any degree. If from time to time it is found that someone has acted con­trary to that principle, it will be reasonable for the Government to say, "We have found that this pro­vision does not work very well, and we propose to act accordingly."

My party supports the Bill. Like other honorable members, members of the Labour party do not condone cruelty to animals in any shape or form. It is accepted "that on occa­sions animals in the care of people who are not mentally balanced suffer accordingly. It is considered that those persons should be deprived of the right to keep animals. On the other hand, my party does not believe that, because of some unfortunate circumstances, any person engaged in his daily occupation of transporting stock should be deprived of his livelihood.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province).-This measure has been introduced because of objections voiced in another place during the last sessional period to what was con­sidered to be undue harshness in rela­tion to drivers of transport vehicles, and also in relation to the right to des­troy animals on private property. The Statute Law Revision Committee made certain recommendations. Those who have had practical ex­perience, and appreciate the difficul­ties associated with the transport of stock, realize how harsh it could be to penalize a driver by depriving him of his livelihood when probably what occurred was not his fault. The hon­orable member for Brunswick West in another place pointed out, on be­half of the Labour party, how far­reaching the effects of the legislation could be.

The Statute Law Revision Com­mittee heard many witnesses and made a report on the subject. One cannot but admire those people,

particularly in the city, who take such an interest and devote so much time in an endeavour to eliminate cruelty to animals. However, some­times their enthusiasm causes them to lose sight of some of the practi­cal problems involved in transport­ing stock. Of course, we could eliminate the alleged cruelty if we reverted to the procedure of the old days when stock was driven on foot down from the Monaro tableland to Maffra for sale.

Many people get a wrong impres­sion about cruelty to animals. It is difficult to transport stock without any hardship to them which often is almost inevitable. The best answer to the critics is to point out that nowadays about 80 per cent. of the stock which comes to the Melbourne markets is conveyed by road trans­port. Many years ago, most of the transport was by rail. Primary pro­ducers find that there is far less loss on road transport of their beef, mut­ton, lambs and other stock than is the case by rail. I have been associated with animals from my earliest child­hood, and I dislike the thought of any unnecessary or undue cruelty occurring, but I realize that it does happen. Otherwise, we would not have taken legislative action against it.

Cruelty is gradually being elimi­nated, and animals are being treated more like human beings in regard to transport. To some degree, the Statute Law Revision Committee's recommendations have been accep­ted by the Government. There are two separate aspects of cruelty. One relates to domestic animals around the home. The owners of the ani­mals have plenty of time to care for them, feed them and give them medi­cal attention when necessary. There is no excuse whatever for cruelty. I would not oppose any law which provided that after two convictions for cruelty such people would be prohibited from keeping any animals. The transport of stock is a different matter. In many cases the vehicles travel down hazardous mountain

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roads and highways, which are in­adequate for the traffic. If the driver or someone else makes a mistake on the road, it may be necessary to swerve the vehicle and sometimes an animal goes down. In such circumstances, perhaps in the middle of the night, it is difficult to alleviate the situation. From my consider­able knowledge of the drivers of stock transports, I should say that 98 or 99 per cent. of them are im­bued with the idea of getting the stock to market in the best possible condition with the minimum loss of life. On the other hand, on the rail­ways hundreds or even thousands of stock are destroyed each year in transit.

The Statute Law Revision Com­mittee sought the figures on this, but they are not available. We made a recommendation to the Government to remove what my party-it was expressed by the honorable members for Murray Valley and Gippsland East in another place-felt was an undue penalty. A transport driver could be instructed by his employer to take a. certain number of stock in his truck. He would not be in: a position to refuse his employer's instructions. If he were apprehended and charged with cruelty because an animal had gone down and he had not been able to get it up, follow­ing a second conviction he would be severely penalized. Stock owners and transport drivers endeavour to get animals to the sale-yards without any loss.

I am glad that the Government has accepted the recommendation of the Statute Law Revision Committee in this regard, although it did not accept the recommendations in their entirety. The committee also re­commended that these cases be heard by a stipendiary magistrate sitting alone. The Minister has stated why this recommendation was not accepted. My party supports the part of the Bill which I have been discussing.

The next provisions in the mea­sure relate to the owners of private zoos, who have not shown due re­

The Hon. W. O. Fulton.

gard to the care of animals. The Government proposes to require them to register and to make them liable to inspection to ensure that they are carrying out the provisions of the legislation. That should not entail too much hardship on anyone. Most private zoos are kept in such a way as to attract people to them. I recommend that honorable members who are travelling down the Princes Highway visit the Gunn's Gully zoo east of Moe.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-It is a credit to the owners.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-It is an example of how a private zoo should be conducted and how animals should be treated and cared for. Everyone associated with private zoos should use it as a model. I commend the Government for taking this step, and my party supports the Bill.

The motion was agreed to.

The Bill was read a second time, and passed through its remaining stages.

EDUCATION (ADULT EDUCATION) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 22) on the motion of the Hon. R. J. Hamer (Minister of Immigration) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province) .-This is a small Bill relating to the activities of the Council of Adult Education, and I do not propose to make it an avenue for discussing the work that the council does generally. I intend to concentrate on the points involved in the Bill. For some considerable time, the council, for the benefit of the people of this State, has entered into contracts with entrepreneurs of various kinds to stage theatrical and musical performances in various parts of the State. This practice has been going on for a considerable time, but unfortunately for the coun­cil the Crown Solicitor has thrown

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doubts on whether the council pos­sesses the power under the Act to carry out this type of activity.

I do not know the type of theatrical or musical entertainment that is con­sidered to be suitable for the educa­tion of adults, but I presume that opera, ballet and top-class musical shows would be included in that category. I doubt, of course, whether the performances by the Beatles would come within the ambit of the council's work or whether the coun­cil would consider bringing a per­former such as Judy Garland, who has probably lingered too long on the stage in the United States of America, to Australia to entertain people in rural areas.

The Hon. D. G. ELLIoT.-She is a great performer.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.­That may be so, but whether her talents come within the ambit of the work carried out by the Council of Adult Education is a moot point.

The Hon. D. G. ELLIoT.-The coun­cil takes a lot of straight plays to the country.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.­That is so. The purpose of this Bill is to remove the doubt whether the council has the right to do these things and to give it the authority to carryon the practice it has followed in the past few years. The council is a worthy body, and I hope the Govern­ment will continue to maintain it for many years.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY (North-Eastern Province) .-The Country party supports the Bill and commends the Council of Adult Edu­cation for the work it is doing throughout country centres of Vic­toria. It is doing a worth-while job in bringing a good type of entertainment to country centres.

The Hon. D. G. ELLIoT.-Country people would not see any of this type of entertainment were it not for the council.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY.­That is correct. For that reason, we feel that even though there is some

technicality in the arrangements which the council has entered into in the past to bring top artists and musicians to country centres, this activity should receive the approval of this House and Parliament. We commend and appreciate the work that the council is doing in Victoria, particularly in rural areas. It is lift­ing the standard of entertainment throughout the country.

The motion was agreed to. The Bill was read a second time,

and passed through its remaining stages.

UNIVERSITY (FACULTIES) BILL. The debate (adjourned from April

22) on the motion of the Hon. R. J. Hamer (lVIinister of Immigration) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. J. M. WALTON (Mel­bourne North Province) .-This Bill proposes to correct a discrepancy which apparently crept into the statutes at the time of the consoli­dation. The section dealing with the establishment of various uni­versity faculties did not clearly state that the faculties should be estab­lished by statute only. Accordingly, clause 2 of the Bill amends paragraph (a) of sub-section (1) of section 29 of the principal Act by inserting after the word "faculties" the words "as are from time to time established by the statutes". This is most desi­rable, as also was the establishment of Monash University and as is the proposal for a third university in connexion with which great care must be exercised to ensure that there will be careful planning in the estab­lishment by statute of each of the faculties. Members of the Labour party offer no objection to the pas­sage of the Bill.

Sir PERCY BYRNES (North­Western Province) .-In the absence of Mr. Feltham, who is the Country party's expert on university educa­tion-he is a member of the Monash University Council-I express ap­proval of the provisions of this Bill.

The motion was agreed to.

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The Bill was read a second time, and passed through its remaining stages.

STATUTE LAW REVISION BILL (No.2).

The debate (adjourned from April 28) on the motion of the Hon. L. H. S. Thompson (Minister of Housing) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed. .

The Hon. J. M. WALTON (Mel­bourne North Province) .-This is the type of Bill which comes before Par­liament from time to time to correct minor errors in the statutes. It may be that the error relates to only one word or letter, but because of it the purpose or the intention of the statute can be altered considerably. These Bills are considered by the Statute Law Revision Committee. On this occasion, as previously, the com­mittee has carefuly studied the pro­posed amendments, and it is satis­fied that the Bill does what it pur­ports to do, namely, to correct minor errors in existing statutes. There is no need for me to discuss the pro­posed corrections in detail, because I am sure that all honorable members have had an opportunity to examine the various alterations in order to satisfy themselves that the amend­ments are necessary. Without delay­ing the passage of the Bill any further, I can say that my party supports the proposals.

The motion was agreed to.

The Bill was read a second time, and passed through its remaining stages.

LABOUR AND INDUSTRY (CHEMISTS' SHOPS) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 28) on the motion of the Hon. R. W. Mack (Minister of Health) for the second reading of this Bill was re­sumed.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province).-This Bill proposes to amend the Labour and Industry Act, and its provisions

relate to the operations of chemists. It is recognized to-day, from the high­est to the lowest level of commercial life, that business people are seeking means of enjoying increased leisure. They are able to do this in various ways. Persons engaged in certain occupations, however, find that they cannot without organization adhere to specified hours of work and thus enjoy as much leisure as do other people. This makes their tasks more onerous and chemists come within that category.

The first efforts made in the pro­fessional field to seek increased leisure were the steps taken by medical practitioners. Groups of three or four doctors, acting in con­cert, established clinics and were thus able to obtain release from their duties at weekends and other times by leaving one of their colleagues to carryon the practice. If one tele­phones for the service of one's doctor, particularly at week-ends, one is often told that he is not on duty, and is advised to get in touch with doctor so-and-so who is con­ducting the emergency service.

A natural corollary of that develop­ment was that chemists, whose work is related to that of the medical profession, should seek means by which they also could secure for themselves a more ordered existence. At the present time, a resident chemist never knows at what hour he may be asked to dispense a pre­scription. People are able to consult doctors in their surgeries during mornings, afternoons and evenings. Also, emergencies arise at all times, and doctors are called out to attend patients. If the doctor decides that a patient needs medicines or drugs at short notice, the services of a chemist must be sought to dispense the prescription. Often, resident chemists are called from their beds in the early hours of the morning to serve members of the public in time of need. This has been recognized as an indispensable part of the pro­fession they follow.

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Chemists have now decided that it would be a good idea to join to­gether and set up night prescription services, as exist in many other parts of Australia. On a visit to Western Australia, I learned that chemists in Bunbury had combined to conduct an after-hours pharmacy to ·enable members of the public to obtain urgent medicines and so that the chemists themselves might have more leisure time, particularly at week­ends.

The passing of this Bill will enable a similar system to be adopted in Vic­toria. Night pharmacies do exist here. I know of one in which a number of chemists are associated, but the doors of the premises are shut at night. A chemist remains on duty until a cer­tain hour to enable prescriptions to be filled, and when he leaves, a recorded message is left informing any inquirer where the nearest service is obtain­able.

The nine men who operate this pharmacy go on night duty in turns, and each is called on only once every nine weeks. No goods are stocked except the materials required for the dispensing of prescriptions and essential drugs which may be ordered by doctors for patients with heart and other complaints. Competitors have operated outside the legal trad­ing hours, and there has been some complaint within the profession that the Department of Labour and Industry has not policed the Act as rigidly as it should.

The passing of this Bill will allow night pharmacies to open their doors for the sale of medicine or the supply of drugs ordered by doctors. Pharma­cists will not be permitted to sell cosmetics or other goods normally sold by chemists. A person will be enabled to purchase " Disprin ", which is a stock pain reliever these days and is often prescribed by doctors.

I t is a good thing that this service is being instituted so that chemists may enjoy more leisure. In a scheme of this nature, it is possible for a chemist and his wife to make arrange­ments at week-ends without fear of

being disturbed, and with the knowledge that arrangements have been made for urgent prescriptions to be made up.

The only query I raise concerns the requirement that a business of the type envisaged by the Bill must be carried on by a partnership consisting of not fewer than ten chemists. A night pharmacy does not do a tremendous amount of business, and a shop in which ten chemists have an interest may not be very success­ful financially.

In the pharmacy to which I have referred, each partner subscribed the sum of £200. I do not suppose that in their district they would be hard put to take in another man. I doubt whether their enterprise returns large profits, but it enables them to lead a reasonably ordered existence and ensures that the public will not be debarred from securing urgent prescriptions at any time.

In outlying districts, where fewer than ten chemists are in business, some hardship may be imposed on seven or eight people who want to establish a night pharmacy but are debarred from doing so because of the requirement for ten partners. The Minister should keep this in mind. In the City of Port Melbourne there are not ten pharmacies.

The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD.­In a sparsely populated district a person requiring medicine might have to travel too far to the particular shop that happened to be opened.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD.­That is true. I understand that the Victorian branch of the Federated Pharmaceutical Service Guild sug­gested the number of ten~ but I doubt whether it has examined this matter properly, or has taken into account outlying areas such as Keilor, Avon­dale Heights and St. Albans-where there may be only 6, 7, 8 or 9 chemists-certain places in the outer metropolitan area, and rapidly­developing localities such as Dandenong.

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Provision may have to be made later for the granting of permits to fewer persons than ten to conduct businesses of this type where it can be shown that there is an insuffi­ciency of chemists in a particular area to operate a pharmacy of this type. If there were only seven chemists in a particular district, and they decided to operate a night pharmacy, it should be possible for the Government to grant a permit enabling them to do so.

Members of the Labour party support the principle of the Bill, knowing that it will enable more leisure time to be enjoyed by people who hitherto have been somewhat restricted. We believe it should be possible for people these days to enjoy a little more leisure in their lives.

The Hon. R. W. MAY (Gippsland Province) .-The Country party supports this measure. Like Mr. Todd, we are intrigued by the provision stating that a co-operative night dispensary service must be carried on by a partnership of not fewer than ten chemists. In the whole of the Gippsland Province, I do not think there are ten chemists in anyone town, although in some towns there are nine doctors. It seems to members of my party that this pro­vision represents a timid approach to the subject. I do not doubt that in cities such as Bendigo, Ballarat, Geelong and possibly Warrnambool a service of the kind envisaged could be operated.

The Hon. K. S. GRoss.-1 do not think Warrnambool would qualify.

The Hon. R. W. MAY.-Apart from the major provincial cities, I do not think many places outside the metropolitan area would qualify. The Government at some future time should reconsider this aspect. In towns such as Morwell and Traralgon, where there would be nine doctors practising, under the terms of the Bill no chemists' shops would be open at night. Residents in the larger towns are entitled to facilities

equal to those provided for people in the metropolitan area. I believe the introduction of this Bill is a step in the right direction.

Mr. Todd referred to the situation in Western Australia. I know from personal experience that in Bunbury, Albany and other large towns, chemists operate a night pharma­ceutical service. Sir Percy Byrnes and I have observed that in Cairns, Townsville and other centres in Queensland, night pharmacies are open, and they are not restricted to the dispensing of prescriptions but are also permitted to sell pro­prietary medicines and cosmetics. In the interests of service to the pub­lic in cases of emergency, members of the Country party believe this is a worth-while measure, and accord­ingly we support it.

The motion was agreed to.

The Bill was read a second time and committed.

Clause 1 was agreed to.

Clause 2 (As to shops used only for dispensing doctors' prescrip­tions) .

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-1 have a good deal of sympathy with the remarks passed by both Mr. Todd and Mr. May. All I can say is that the provisions of this Bill were requested in the first place by the Victorian branch of the Federated Pharmaceutical Service Guild of Australia. I am not aware of the reasons which were advanced or of the arguments this organiza­tion might have had with the Minis­ter of Labour and Industry in arriving at the figure of ten. It may be that the guild will come back to the Government in six or twelve months' time and request that the number be reduced.

The Hon. R. W. MAY.-It could be that the guild was a bit timid.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-That may be so, but that number was fixed by the Minister in association with the guild.

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The Hon. SAMUEL MERRIFIELD.­Could not the provision be framed in such a manner as to take into account a geographical area? In the case of Warrnambool, if there were only five chemists in the town, a district could be defined and the five chemists allowed to operate a scheme.

The Hon. R. W. MACK.-I sup­pose that could have been done. I believe it would be preferable to re­duce the number. I cannot speak for the Government, because I do not know what negotiations took place, but I believe the situation would be improved if the number were fixed at four or five.

The clause was agreed to.

The Bill was reported to the House without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

TEACHING SERVICE (AMENDMENT) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 22) on the motion of the Hon. L. H. S. Thompson (Minister of Hous­ing) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) .-This mea­sure has the approval of both the Education Department and the Vic­torian Teachers' Union. Its provi­sions are necessary to meet the needs of modern times in view of the large number of untrained teachers in the employ of the Edu­cation Department. We may deplore this situation, but it must be faced. At one time, when a woman teacher married, she left the service of the Department and did not return. To-day, if she desires to return to the profession she is welcomed back to meet a definite need. The Act provides for a mini­mum probational period of one year. This provision is necessary for a new teacher but is definitely not required in relation to a person returning to the Service. Therefore,

the Teachers Tribunal is to be em­powered to fix the probationary period as it thinks proper.

In regard to promotions, difficulties have been encountered in filling vacancies because persons in the next lower grade have not been qualified to be appointed to the posi­tions. The provision contained in the Bill will meet the situation by allowing the Committee of Classi­fiers to select the next eligible per­son. Clause 4 is complementary to the provisions contained in clause 3 and makes provision as to the num­ber of names to be placed on the promotion list in any year. The Bill has the unanimous approval of the Department and the Victorian Teachers' Union, as well as, I believe, members of this House. Therefore, we support the measure.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE (North-Eastern Province) .-This small measure is designed to over­come a problem that exists in the Teaching Service. As Mr. Tripovich said, it has the approval of the Edu­cation Department and members of the Teaching Service; therefore our party supports it.

The motion was agreed to.

The Bill was read a second time and committed.

Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to.

Clause 3 (Amendment of No. 6391 s. 48 (7».

The Hon. R. W. MAY (Gippsland Province) .-This clause relates to promotions. I ask the Government to examine the practicability of some reciprocal promotion arrangements regarding teachers coming from the United Kingdom. As I understand the position, these teachers drop down the promotion ladder and lose the benefit of their overseas training.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing).-The point raised by Mr. May is a difficult one and is a touchy subject in the teach­ing profession. There is some merit

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in his suggestion, and I am sure that the Minister of Education will give consideration to his remarks.

The clause was agreed to, as was the remaining clause.

The Bill was reported to the House without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

LITTER BILL. The debate (adjourned from April

28) on the motion of the Hon. G. L. Chandler (Minister of Agriculture) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. D. G. ELLIOT (Mel­bourne Province) .-1 cannot see why this Bill has been introduced. This is a classic example of the Premier's desire to climb on the publicity band wagon. He is rather adept at it. What is more, he is aided and abetted by the press, and is protected by his rvlinisters in this Chamber. Last August, I spoke in this House on the subject of litter, and 1 mentioned some of my experiences and observa­tions whilst overseas. As the result of my comments, I received a letter from the Minister for Local Govern­ment which set out very clearly in the third paragraph-I can quote it almost verbatim-that there was ab­solutely no necessity to introduce any embracing legislation regarding litter, because the position was more than adequately covered by the Local Government Act and the Police Offences ~ct. Only a few weeks later, once agam our bustling, bombastic Premier comes out with some publicity-seeking propaganda in the form of a "Litter" Bill. Frankly, it should be thrown into the trash can. This measure has been passed in another place, but I think it is a fiasco. At one stage, the press accused members of this House of frustrating progressive legislation. We cannot blame the press, because they d,id not know . that enabling legIslatIOn already eXIsted. This is another of a long line of actions on the part of the Premier which leaves me and my party thoroughly dis­gusted.

Americans are litter conscious. In most States of America there is a minimum penalty of $25 for deposit­ing litter. The Americans have gone to a great deal of trouble and have exercised a great deal of creative ability to use the advantages of the television and radio media in order to keep their States clean. Their methods and machinery of percep­tion in radio are well worth noting. Perhaps the Government could ob­tain some of the advertising and television films from America, many of which are paid for by local authorities that have become litter conscious. In England, the minimum fine for the dropping of litter is £5. Whilst in the United Kingdom, I noticed that litter bins have been standardized so that they can be easily identified. I also noticed that along the highways and by-ways of England litter bags are provided which hook on to a standard frame­work, making them easy to collect by a moving van. That is one advan­tage of the standardization of equip­ment.

During my last trip overseas I spent some time in an interesting CIty called Moscow, the inhabitants of which were particularly litter conscious. I do not think one could find any people in the world more litter conscious, with the wish to keep their city clean, than the inhabi­tants of that city. Once again, the advantage of standardized equipment was seen. I noticed either a citizen or one of the one million American tourists that visit Moscow every year throw a cigarette butt on the foot­path. Two people immediately con­verged on him and politely told him what he had done.

The Hon. V. O. DICKIE.-Or to pick up the cigarette butt?

The Hon. D. G. ELLIOT.-That is a most unfair comment. From what I saw of Moscow, it has a most affluent society, and there is no need for the citizens to scrape around for cigarette butts.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­What happened to the cigarette butt?

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The Hon. D. G. ELLIOT.-It was picked up by one of these people and placed in what is called a Samovar bin. In any case, I suggest that in Australia the authorities should provide sufficient litter bins to encourage people to deposit their refuse in them. In some parts of the city, it is difficult to find a bin. Different types of litter containers are used in the suburbs, and in some districts there are none. I suggest to the Government that it should liaise with the municipalities on this ques­tion.

The Government has introduced a Bill, which it has slapped onto the table, so to speak. I should like to know whether this measure will go into the limbo of forgotten things, as does most of the Government's legislation, or whether the Govern­ment will make an honest effort to have it implemented. If it decides to do so, the Government will receive co-operation from the Opposition.

I have made inquiries in television and radio circles, and am sure that the Government will receive co­operation there, too, and that probably it will be at little or no cost. All the Government needs to do is to appeal to the people. One radio station in which the Liberal party has a slight interest, station 3XY, with a slightly negative attitude on the part of members on the Government side of the House, since last August has made at least 40 or 50 announcements suggesting to people that they put rubbish into a litter bin, "stack their trash," and so on. Couplets and slogans make a positive appeal to people to do something about disposing of litter.

In his letter to me, the Minister for Local Government contended that he had not noticed very much litter about the city. The honorable gentle­man went on to make the wonderful statement that there was no neces­sity whatever to introduce new legis­lation because the matter was more than adequately covered by the Local Government Act and the

Police Offences Act. Now we have before us a piece of paper which intimates that the provisions printed on it are designed " to make provision for the abatement of litter, and for other purposes."

We must support the Bill, but we hope the Government will not treat it as rubbish, as it is wont to do, and that it will do something positive about this most important social problem. I think this matter reflects our general outlook. On the other hand, we cannot blame the people too much because in a few muni­cipalities, as well as in the city, infinitely more receptacles should be provided for litter. I urge that the containers be standardized. Then the image of the bin could be used on television, with a background of city parks showing papers flying all over the place, with a caption, "Is this the kind of city you want? You will get it if you do not put things in the litter bins."

We trust that on the 27th June next we shall consign the Govern­ment to the litter bins and thereafter see the right party on the Treasury bench of the Victorian Parliament.

Sir PERCY BYRNES (North­Western Province) .-My party sup­ports the Bill. I can understand the reply of the Minister for Local Government to Mr. Elliot that the municipalities have wide powers to deal with the dis­posal of litter. The point is that whilst they may have those pow­ers, councils are unable or unwilling to exercise them because of the diffi­culty of obtaining a conviction in this field. Mr. Elliot discussed mainly the city and the suburban area, where litter bins and bags are used. If one travels around the State, one finds it almost impossible not to see rubbish of all sorts deposited on side roads and in various other locations. Re­cently I noticed within 200 yards of the Western Highway between Port­land and Heywood, in a section of forest, a notice "Deposit No Rub­bish," but in this beautiful area there were old motor car bodies and all

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sorts of rubbish. It is a disgrace that people should dump refuse. In most country districts there are rubbish tips of various types-per­haps there are not enough. Along some roads the scenery is spoilt by cartons and beer cans. In addition, one sees old sheets of fibrous plaster and all sorts of other rubbish.

The Hon. W. O. FULToN.-The beer can has supplanted the bottle as the national emblem.

Sir PERCY BYRNES.-One friend of mine suggested that the habit of throwing bottles about could be cured by making the deposit on a bottle Is. His idea was that people would not throw them away but would pic~ them up. Beer cans have no value to anyone, so they are thrown away all over the place. Perhaps something is wrong with our national character in this respect. Mr. Elliot mentioned the desirability of initiating some sort of campaign. I think an educational campaign in respect of litter would be a good thing. In my country town, I live on the corner of a street op­posite a high school. There is a small tuck shop a little way along the street. My wire fence collects all sorts of paper from ice-creams and other com­modities, as well as all sorts of rub­bish. Every now and then it becomes necessary for us to have a clean up.

The Hon. W. O. FULToN.-Does not the failure to educate children in this matter occur principally in the home?

Sir PERCY BYRNES.-I think it occurs both in the home and at school. Recently I was cutting some grass outside my fence with a motor mower, and there Was almost a " snow storm" of paper thrown out with the grass clippings. The local head master asked me where all the rubbish came from, and I told him. Perhaps I had been a little slack in not cutting the grass more often. The head master said that he would send children over the next day to clean up the place, and he did so, but in a few weeks the position was just as bad. It is a national attri­bute that we throw things away.

Opposite a little property that I own, there is a side lane with a small sand hill alongside. People deposit rubbish there, and then back their trucks in to load up sand. I can assure honorable members that there have been some heartburnings about this matter.

A couple of Italians were digging sand alongside my fence, and I asked them whether they realized that the fence cost £300 a mile and that, if they kept on digging the sand, the fence would fall over. They said that that was too bad, and went on digging sand. I asked them what they wanted the sand for, and they told me that they wanted to put it in muddy patches around their houses. Then I saw a pile of rubbish along­side the road and I asked them if they had left it there. They said that they had, so I told them to take it away. I told my neighbour about this, and he said that I got off lightly, because someone had dumped fifteen dead sheep alongside his property.

I know it can be said that this legislation is unnecessary and that there is adequate power under the Local Government Act to control litter-bugs, but I think something more has to be done. I am in favour of an increase in fines that may be imposed. In addition, more effort should be put into catching these people who dump rubbish un­lawfully. All the councils do is to put an advertisem·ent in the paper occasionally to the effect that anyone caught depositing rubbish on roads will be fined £50.

The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER.-The outer metropolitan councils are doing their best to catch offenders.

Sir PERCY BYRNES.-That is so. The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVIcH.-The

difficulty under this legislation will be to convince the magistrate.

Sir PERCY BYRNES.-I am glad tha t the National Council of Women has made a move in this matter. That organization represents a wide variety of people-in fact, a cross­section of the community. It has

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drawn the attention of the commu­nity to the fact that we are lacking in ordinary, common civic pride. Whilst it may not be possible to punch civic pride into people by an Act of Parliament, if they can be convinced that it does not pay to drop rubbish around the place and that it is wrong to do so, it might be possible to get them to develop a better civic outlook.

Whether or not we think it is impossible to catch people who dump rubbish and to enforce the law, we should support the National Council of Women because the members of that organization are doing some­thing to improve national conscious­ness on this matter, and until we achieve that objective and adopt an attitude similar to that which pre­vails in Russia and European coun­tries, we will get nowhere. Honor­able members who have travelled throughout England and Germany know that very little rubbish is seen along the sides of the roads, yet the population density in those countries is much greater than it is here.

The Hon. W. P. MAIR.-Is that not a possible reason?

Sir PERCY BYRNES.-It may be, but I think we are to some extent a careless and indifferent race, be­cause we have been living in the open spaces and we still think we are living in "Woop Woop" where we may throw our papers down and let them blow away.

The sitting was suspended at 6.35 p.m. until 7.54 p.m.

Sir PERCY BYRNES.-I conclude my remarks by saying that the Country party supports the Bill, and hopes that the objective which is desired by the Government will be achieved.

The Hon. W. P. MAIR (South­Eastern Province) .-1 should like to make a small contribution to the debate on the Litter Bill. When Mr. Elliot commenced speaking, I f.elt that he was going to condemn the Bill, but he concluded by commend­ing it, as have all other speakers. It

might appear to some people that this measure was introduced by the Government in order to capture the newspaper headlines. How'ever, I believe the Government has given a really solid and worth-while lead to the community in introducing the Bill.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-Will it achieve anything?

The Hon. W. P. MAIR.-Already, with one person at least, the measure has had some effect. In Frankston the other day, a gentleman who was about to throw an empty cigarette packet into the gutter paused and said, "If Parliament passes the Litter Bill, it could cost me something if I throwaway this packet in the street." I said to him, " You are quite right; it could cost you some­thing."

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-I do not think it would cost him anything.

The Hon. W. P. MAIR.-Under the provisions of this Bill, a person offending in that manner could be fined. If the proposed legislation has had an impact upon one person, how many hundreds of others in the community could it have similarly affected? The principal object of the Bill is not to "rake" in revenue for the Government or municipalities, but to make the public litter conscious.

Sir Percy Byrnes and other speakers have referred to the tidiness which is evident in many European countries, including W estern Germany and England. Probably, the large popula­tions of those countries, and the many years of development so far as they are concerned, have led to this tidiness-there is no room to be untidy. It is somewhat startling to realiz'e that many second and third generation Australians have had an upbringing similar to that of the majority of people in England and Western Germany. In the wide open spaces of this country, however, a feeling that untidiness does not matter seems to have crept in.

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Irrespective of the position in the United States of America so far as litter consciousness and advertising are concerned, there is no evidence of untidiness in Western Germany, England, Denmark, Holland or certain other European countries, where people are just naturally tidy. It is a habit which has more or less grown up with them. At some time, the habit of tidiness must have started, and it has been developed by the people down through the years.

\Vhether this legislation will bring in increased revenue as a result of the penalties which are imposed does not matter. If it starts the ball of litter consciousness rolling, it will be a step in the right direction. I com­mend Mr. Elliot's proposals concern­ing advertising and educational campaigns with a view to making the public litter conscious. However, action of that type is not the complete answer to the problem, because there are always people in the community who will not co-operate in the manner suggested. These persons must be impressed with the fact that, if they do not observe the litter law, they will "cop" a penalty. Far from being a small, insignificant Bill, I think this measure is extremely important, and the Government has given a lead which, I trust, local governing bodies and others will follow. I commend the Bill to the House.

The Hon., W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province).-This is a Bill which makes provision for the abatement of litter, and for other purposes. Pro­bably, it could be said that there already exist adequate powers in various Acts under which the authori­ties could deal with the litter menace. At the outset, I should like to em­phasize that one of the greatest women's organizations in Victoria­the Country Women's Association­has been pressing for legislative action of this type for some years. The organization has more than 25,000 members in Victoria, and 25,000 women cannot be wrong, especially when members are looking

for votes. I hasten to assure the House that I, personally, am not " chasing" votes; hence, I can make that statement without any fear. I commend this great Country Women's Association for its work in endeavouring to induce the Govern­ment to bring down legislation to deal with the litter problem. .

Paragraph (e) of clause 2 refers to "any railway station or platform, wharf, pier or jetty." Government instrumentalities should be the first to keep their establishments tidy. The railway yard at Dandenong is the dirtiest and most dilapidated place along the railway line from my home town of Maffra to Flinders­street. Litter of every sort is strewn around there. At no time does it look tidy. Many railway stations need spring cleaning. Rubbish tins are overflowing, with all sorts of debris lying around them. Little attempt is made to make these places look attractive. The area around Princes Bridge and Flinders-street stations is second only to Dandenong, and that is not an enviable reputa~ tion. I should like to see the Ministers controlling some of these Departments take steps to ensure that a better example is set.

Thousands of people attend con­certs at the Myer Music Bowl, but there are few places there where they can deposit rubbish. On a beautiful afternoon, the lawns are strewn with ice-cream cones, ice­cream sticks, cigarette butts, packages and so forth. Victoria is not as crowded as are some overseas countries. If people living in cities overseas were as un­tidy as we are, it would not be possible to walk along the streets. The United Kingdom, with an area practically the same size as Victoria, has a population of 53,000,000. Yet the London underground stations, the railway yards, the parks and gardens are extremely tidy. On a Sunday afternoon one can see all sorts of cranks in Hyde Park, but one does not see any litter. Scotland is a more sparsely-populated country, and right up in the far north where

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there are very few people I saw men sweeping leaves off roadways. It was a joy to drive along those roads. I place Scotland in the top category for tidiness.

When I went to Scandinavia, I landed at Esbjerg and travelled through the three main islands of Denmark, through a large part of Sweden and on to Norway. I did not see any litter on the main roads during my stay in those countries.

We in Australia have decorated our roads with the national emblem -the beer bottle, which is now being supplanted by a can with a tin­opener across the top. I want to see this untidiness eliminated from the landscape. Litter should be cleaned up from all our parks. Many shires have a lot to answer for in allowing their towns to become very untidy. The municipalities possess certain powers, but they do not use them very often. I hope this Bill will have the effect the Government believes it will. Most people would like to see a spirit of tidiness cultivated. That is essential if we wish to show that we are really a cultured people.

Education in tidiness must start in the home. Parents cannot rear children to school age in an untidy manner and then expect school teachers to correct errors which have started in the home. These days, teachers pay very little atten­tion to litter around school yards. At innumerable schools one sees untidy yards. When I was a boy, I did not dare litter the school yard because I knew the punishment would be twelve strokes by a man who could lay them on. There was no litter around our school yard. To-day the attitude is very different. Yet, I suppose when 1 was a boy the population of Victoria was only one-third of what it is to-day.

We should not make excuses for untidy people. Adults should know how to educate themselves not to dis­tribute litter all over the landscape. Lovely river frontages in the country

and areas of coastline are frequently littered with rubbish. Often a tidy person pulls up near a fireplace with the idea of having lunch or afternoon tea, but when he looks around and sees the state of the ground in the vicinity of the fireplace he packs up and goes away. Why should that be the case? Some people would not walk 20 yards to put rubbish in a bin. At many picnic grounds and other places frequented by members of the public, no rubbish tins are available. Some years ago I went to the begonia festival at Ballarat. One of our Parliamentary colleagues, Mr. Scott, asked me how 1 enjoyed the festival. 1 told him that I thought it was a very good show, but that conditions would be improved if more bins were pro­vided into which people could place litter. He agreed with me and said that he had brought up the same thing at a council meeting. One could walk 100 yards in the gardens in Ballarat before seeing a rubbish bin. In those circumstances, it is perhaps under­standable why people drop litter wherever they happen to be. I hope that this measure will prove as suc­cessful as the Government hopes.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) .-1 rise to give a slight warning to the Govern­ment not to clutter up the statute­book with provisions which, although supplementing existing legislation, will in the ultimate prove as ineffec­tive as the legislation they are in­tended to supplement.

I also pay a tribute to the National Council of Women. 1 know several delegates to that council. But like Rotary, Apex, the Lions, and other social organizations which are doing magnificent work in the community, the council frequently adopts a pro­ject for the month or for the year. Somebody has the idea that the organization should work for a par­ticular objective. That is quite a good plan. I do not know how this par­ticular project relating to the clear­ance of litter originated, but I offer

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my congratulations to the person con­cerned. No doubt it was not alto­gether a new idea, but at some stage somebody on the council must have said, "We ought to do something about litter."

Frequently, the press has reported that after a league football final match tons of litter, hundreds of dozens of bottles and thousands of cans have been removed from the Melbourne Cricket Ground. If suffi­cient bins were provided to contain all the litter discarded, there would be more bins than seats.

The Hon. W. P. MAIR.-If a per­son carries to a football ground a full carton of beer bottles or cans, should he not carry away the empties?

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-Will the passing of this BiB achieve such a solution? In my opinion, the answer lies not in statutes but in edu­cation. I should like to say something in favour of municipal councils. In the municipality in which Mr. Camp­bell and I reside, garbage is collec­ted twice weekly, and the same applies in many other metropolitan municipalities. Moreover, at periods during the year, ratepayers are invited to place incombustible rub­bish, such as old bedsteads and pieces of iron, into a truck provided for the purpose. Where this facility is not provided, people deposit material of this sort in one of the outer suburbs, such as Ringwood. I do not consider that the munici­pality in which I live can do much more than it is doing at present, and the same comment applies to most other councils.

Representations were made to the Premier on the subject of litter, and I suppose he agreed that the Govern­ment would take action in an endea­vour to strengthen the statutes. In my opinion, the Premier was unfair to municipal councils, because I believe they are doing fairly well in this regard. The Minister for Local Government, in writing to Mr. Elliot

as he did, was" on the ball." How­ever, parliamentary elections are to be held soon, democracy is the "pressure of the masses," and the Government has yielded.

On a number of occasions, Mr. Feltham has urged the House not to bog the statutes with a great deal of ineffective legislation that would make confusion worse confounded. I invite Mr. Feltham to follow me and, as an experienced lawyer, say what a lot of fun he would have in a court defending a person charged with an offence under sub­clause (1) or sub-clause (2) of clause 3. Sub-clause (1) states-

Any person who throws down drops or otherwise deposits and leaves any litter in or on any public place shall, unless the depositing and leaving was authorized by law or was done with the consent of the owner or occupier or person or authority having the control of the place in "'Or on which the litter was deposited, be guilty of an offence and liable to a penalty of not more than Twenty pounds.

If I, as a person of tidy habits, accidently leave a newspaper on a seat in a public park, what will be my position?

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-Shot to ribbons!

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-If you did that, do you not think you should be prosecuted?

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-This is not a question of legislation, but one of education, and Mr. Mair made a pertinent point in, that regard. Sub-clause (2) states-

Any person who wilfully deposits and leaves any unwanted material or thing or rubbish of any kind on any land owned or occupied by or under the control of any person or authority shall, unless the deposit­ing and leaving was authorized by law or was done with the express consent of the person or authority owning or occupying or having the control of the land, be guilty of an offence and liable to a penalty of not more than One hundred pounds.

If, at a football match, I drank a can of beer, threw it down and was apprehended, I could say that the can had slipped out of my hand.

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Sir PERCY BYRNES.-Sports grounds are exempt.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-Very well. If I drank a can of beer in any street, road, lane or thoroughfare, any park, garden reserve or other place of public recreation, any beach or foreshore, and dropped the empty can on the ground, as many litter­bugs do, I could, if spoken to by an inspector and charged with having committed an offence, say, "I did not wilfully do it; it slipped out of my hand."

If this Bill is passed, it will clutter up the statutes. It will be as ineffec­tive as legislation on the same subject under the Local Government Act and the Police Offences Act has proved to be. Having brought in the Bill, the Government can salve its conscience and say to the ladies­God bless them-" We have had the Bill passed for you; now we shall get on with something else." If the measure becomes law, that is what will happen and everybody will be happy. However, that will not dispose of the litter-bugs. Instead of imposing unnecessary work on the Parlia­mentary Draftsman, the Government, should institute an educational campaign. By so doing, it would do something to get rid of the litter­bugs and enable the Parliamentary Draftsman to concentrate on the preparation of worth-while legisla­tion.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON.-Would you favour the inclusion in the school curriculum of a suitable programme?

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH.-Yes, I consider that is where the answer lies. I do not make my next observa­tion nastily, but when members leave this House at night would anybody sitting in- one of the upstairs galleries admire us for our tidyness? At the conclusion of a sitting, does the Chamber not look like an organized rubbish heap? Let us start with ourselves first. When I clean my letter box in the members' room, I cannot, without shutting my eyes, help seeing the correspondence boxes

of other members, and I have never seen elsewhere a better example of organized chaos. On this issue, let us not be hypocrites. The statute­book should not be cluttered with more ineffective laws, and we should not yield to what we care to call the pressures of democracy.

The Hon. ARCHIBALD TODD (Melbourne West Province) .-1 should like to make a few comments based on my experience as a muni­cipal councillor of the City of Port Melbourne. It is all very well for the Government to bring in a Bill of this nature and say that people who drop litter indiscriminately will be dealt with. I accept the proposition that the intentions of the Govern­ment are good, but, as the letter from the Minister for Local Government to Mr. Elliot indicated, there are ample provisions in the Police Offences Act and the Local Government Act under whicli litter-bugs can be dealt with, although if an effort were made to detect everybody who dumps rubbish on roads it might be neces­sary for an army of inspectors to be employed.

Port Melbourne is a relatively clean city, and it is kept tidy by the staff of the council. From time to time, persons are detected dumping rubbish in that city, and strangely enough they are nearly always residents of areas some distance from Port Melbourne. The main offenders generally live in Elwood or St. Kilda. When detected, they are brought before the local court. Some of the penalties imposed are interesting.

Recently an Elwood man was detected dumping rubbish at the municipal tip outside the hours stipulated by the council. He was prosecuted, but he did not appear on the day set down for the hearing. Counsel for the municipality put the facts, but the stipendiary magistrate took it upon himself to ask certain questions and to pick holes in the case, and ultimately the municipality was forced to withdraw the complaint.

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The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-It must have been a poor case.

The Han. ARCHIBALD TODD.­That is not so. I point out to Mr. Feltham that the council's legal affairs are in the capable hands of the firm of Gillott, Moir and Ahern who have a good reputation in the City of Melbourne. It is not the prerogative of the stipendiary magis­trate to find a loop-hole in the law so that the council has to withdraw its case. On the same day, other persons who were charged with similar offences were fined the sum of £2. I do not believe such a fine would act as a deterrent to someone who wanted to get rid of an old mat­tress or something of that kind.

In our municipality there is a municipal tip which is used by the cities of Port Melbourne, Prahran and South Melbourne, and at times by St. Kilda. At all times a bulldozer is employed in keeping the tip level, and men ensure that fires do not break out. The tip is closed at a certain time each day to enable the men to do their work before they knock off. At week-ends the tip is open to all residents of the munici­pality who wish to dump their house­hold refuse. There is no reason for anyone who lives in the City of Port Melbourne to dump rubbish else­where.

At the boundary of the munici­pality lies the Melbourne Harbor Trust area. On that land, towards the river, a second tip exists. The local officers are vigilant to detect offenders dumping rubbish on Harbor Trust land and also on land which is controlled by the Lands Department. The Department does not clean up the rubbish dumped on its land and claims that it has no money for this purpose. When municipal officers direct the attention of the Harbor Trust to a particular offence, the Trust launches a prosecution and the council officer acts as a witness. We cannot employ an army of municipal officers, and they do the best they can. A great number of men would

be needed to patrol Williamstown­road in order to put a stop to the <;lropping of litter from trucks bring­ing material to the tip, mainly from industry. The councils of South Melbourne, Prahran and St. Kilda, and the local council bring covered loads into the tip.

The problem of litter is a complex one. To-day, the youngster who buys an ice-cream immediately throws awa.y the wrapper, and when he has consumed the ice-cream he drops the stick wherever he happens to be. I point out that education campaigns are conducted in some schools. I have the honour to be chairman of the advisory coun­cil of a particular school which is situated alongside Kings Bridge. The grounds of the school are always clean because the children undertake a regular duty to ensure that no litter is dumped inside the school grounds.

When travelling along almost any highway one sees empty cigarette packets and similar articles thrown from cars. Under this Bill it will be possible for a policeman to launch a prosecution against such persons, but a great number of policemen and inspectors would be needed to achieve the results which the Government claims will follow. In the final analy­sis, when offenders are brought before a local court, the magistrate will have to deal with the offenders in the spirit intended by Parliament and impose a suitable fine. A fine of £2 is like a breath of air going by. Many people would not mind paying such a fine if they could get rid of the rubbish from their homes.

On one occasion the council of the City of Port Melbourne approached the Melbourne Harbor Trust and the Lands Department and suggested that they should join in a scheme to patrol the vacant lands in the city area. Although the Harbor Trust indicated that it would be happy to do so, the Lands Department made no contribution whatever. The coun­cil has been trying to persuade the Lands Department to hand over an area of land between Beacon-road

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and Barak-road, Port Melbourne, to the Housing Commission for housing purposes. However, the Lands Department cannot make up its mind whether the Railway Department wants the land or whether someone else wants it. In the meantime, people from other suburbs dump rubbish on the area at night. The Lands Department makes no re­sponse to requests to clean up the area; it claims that it has no money for such activities, so at the request of the residents the council has from time to time to clear away the rub­bish. A great number of inspectors would be required to police the pro­visions of this Bill effectively. Coun­cils cannot afford to employ too many officers, and members of the Police Force have other duties to per­form. I doubt whether very many people will be apprehended under this legislation, but, if the measure receives the benediction of this Parliament, all we can do is to wish it well.

The motion was agreed to.

The Bill was read a second time and committed.

Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to.

Clause 3 (Depositing and leaving litter an offence).

The Hon. D. G. ELLIOT (Mel­bourne Province) . - This has developed into something like a Supply debate, but it seems to indi­cate quite clearly that litter is an important problem in the community. On the 24th March I asked questions in this House concerning garbage tips and destructors that exist in the metropolitan area, and I was in­formed that there were 38 garbage tips and two destructors. Apropos of Mr. Todd's remarks, I wish to point out that in the area to which he referred the problem of the dis­posal not only of litter but also of excess rubbish from homes, bed­steads, old mattresses, and so forth is very acute. An examination of the list of garbage tips and destructors reveals that no such facility exists in

Brighton, St. Kilda, Prahran, South Melbourne or Melbourne. Obviously, the people reach desperation stage and break the law in order to dis­pose of rubbish and unwanted things around the home.

In my earlier remarks I referred mainly to the question of courtesy and consideration on the part of the individual in his everyday walking or driving around the streets. I think this is a matter for education more than anything else. I stress to the Government that it is essential to standardize containers. It is an accepted fact overseas that where an image that is easily recognizable is created) the people will co-operate, provided that they are properly edu­cated as to what is required. Having educated the people properly, the publicizing of a few prosecutions should have the desired effect.

Greater publicity should be given to the facilities that are available in' the metropolis for the dumping of rub­bish. I t is an acute problem for the householder to ascertain where to take his rubbish. For a popUlation of over 2,000,000 people in the metro­politan area, there are only 38 garbage tips and two destructors. I know that in municipalities like Prahran and Fitzroy that are closely settled, there is no space for garbage tips. This matter is a challenge to the whole community, and an example should be set in Government circles. Radio stations will co-operate to the fullest extent-in fact, station 3XY should be given full marks for having pub­licized this problem over the past seven months.

I summarize my remarks by say­ing that a programme of education is necessary, and that this should be followed by the standardization and availability of litter bins. Even in country areas, along highways and by-ways, facilities should be made available for people to place their litter in disposable bags. If that were done, satisfactory results might be achieved.

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The clause was agreed to, as were the remaining clauses.

The Bill was reported to the House without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

ROAD TRAFFIC (INFRINGEMENTS) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 14) on the motion of the Hon. R. J. Hamer (Minister of Immigration) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-It is rather late in the day for the Government to introduce a taxation measure; such measures are usually brought for­ward early in the life of Parliament. On this occasion, the Government has chosen the last day of the session to introduce this Bill, and I wish to protest at its action. The measure will, if enacted, raise some millions of pounds for the Treasury; there will be a direct impost on Mel­bourne's motorists, and although the country motorist will not be affected to the same extent as the driver in the city, the proposal should be re­sisted. During the life of this Govern­ment, far too many imposts have been placed on motorists. If taxation is to be levied by the Government, it should be spread evenly throughout the community, and city motorists should not be made the scapegoats.

It is a vital principle in our com­munity life that the prosecution of offences and the penalties therefor should be separated; in other words, the accuser should never turn judge. The traditional role of the policeman is to detect offences; he should never be asked to fix the penalty. Under this measure, the two roles are com­bined. That is a bad principle, which ought to be resisted. You, Mr. Acting President, understand full well that it is most important to preserve good relations between the Police Force and the community. In Australia, as history shows, that has never been easy. We ought to try to engender a friendly relationship between mem­bers of the Police Force who are

charged with these onerous duties and the community at large, because a policeman's lot is not a happy one.

The Hon. A. W. KNIGHT.-It never has been.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALL Y.-That is so; it has never been easy. In the days of Walpole, the police were known as the "Peelers." Officers of the law are loaded with many func­tions. The preservation of good relations between the Police Force and the community is a very delicate matter. The Government will endanger those relations by making policemen pull up motorists and fix penalties.

I know that the Government's answer is, "Of course, the offender has the right to go to law." Who wants to go to law if he can avoid doing so? Do the company promoters who are charged with offences want to go to law? Of course they do not. Part of the penalty is having to go into court, and the exposure that follows. There are plenty of fraudulent company promoters who would s'ettle for an on-the-spot fine. Some of them are not very far from this Parliament. The policeman does not like to go to court, nor does the offender. But it is important to preserve the principle of arrest and punishment by due processes of law. This Government s'eeks to telescope the functions of accuser and magis­trate, to bring the matter down to the humble level of courts of petty sessions.

It is said that this proposal will save a lot of time, and that more police will be available for traffic duties. What does that mean? Does anyone seriously suggest that, by having these policemen available, the number of motor car accidents will be reduced?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-Certainly.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.­That is nonsense .. The Minister well remembers that, as the result of an emotional outburst, the Government

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said, "Look! We are going to throw over some old constitutional safe .. guards. We are going to ignore the combined warnings of the Bar Council and the legal profession. We are going to introduce the breathalyzer. It is true that under it a person can no longer take the view that he is not bound to incriminate himself. But we think it is so important to the life and safety of the community that we should forgo an ancient principle."

Have there been fewer accidents as a result of the introduction of the breathalyzer? Mr. Feltham knows that the incidence of accidents has not been reduced one iota. Yet we had the spectacle of a great news­paper, the Age clamouring-" Why does not the Government introduce it?" What has it done? The answer is, "Nothing at all." The breathalyzer is a laughing stock in the courts to-day. Members of juries, who really appreciate what is happening in this matter, ignore it. Irrespective of what the reading on the breathalyzer may be, they reject it as something which is not germane to the case. In this community the breathalyzer has robbed us of an ancient safe­guard, without replacing anything.

All that this miserable little Bill will do will be to garner in millions of pounds for the Government under 'the guise of preventing accidents. You, Mr. Acting President, know that it is unusual for one to have an accident when one gets into what is virtually a procession of vehicles travelling into and out of Melbourne during the day. Most road accidents occur in the country when at 2 or 3 a.m., for some unaccountable reason, someone, usually driving alone, turns off the road and runs into a gum tree 50 yards away from the thoroughfare. Of course, that is an exaggeration, but it is the kind of problem with which we are dealing.

Let me put my third point. The Government says, "Look! You can really trust us with this measure be­

Session 1964.-157.

cause these are not offences at all. It is just like leaving a car all day in a public thoroughfare. The motorist will pay a wharfage fee just as is done in the case of the Queen Elizabeth at Princes Pier. Dues are paid for its presence there." That, too, is nonsense. These things cannot be equated to leaving one's car in the street at all. There is no moral obloquy in leaving a car parked on the kerbside near Menzies Hotel or even Parliament House for six or eight hours, but there is some­thing dreadfully wrong in driving on the wrong side of a roadway.

The Government has said, "These offences are only minor. Let us have a fixed penalty." If we agree to that as a principle, why not do away with the courts altogether? Sometimes I suspect that that is what this Government is aiming at, because throughout its life it has always endeavoured to lower the prestige of the law courts and to sneer at Judges and the legal profes­sion, but, whenever the Bar Council makes a considered statement on an important constitutional issue, the Government says, "Oh! but they are talking through their pockets." We make no apology for our stand on this Bill. We know that the Govern­ment has been prodded into bring­ing this measure up again.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON.­Why did your colle~gues in New South Wales bring in a similar measure?

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-I was waiting for that interjection. Is the Minister suggesting that, be­cause New South Wales introduced a system of on-the-spot fines, his Government was bound to follow it?

The Hon. R. J. HAMER.-Certainly not.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-Of course not, because New South Wales introduced equal pay for the sexes. Why does the Government not follow New South Wales in tha t rna tter?

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The Han. G. W. THOM.-You must think we will fall for the three card trick.

The Han. J. W. GALBALLY.-No, it is part of the philosophy of the Labour party that we choose for our­selves, in the light of experience, what is good and what is bad.

The Han. R. J. HAMER.-What do you think about the scheme in New South Wales?

The Han. J. W. GALBALLY.-It has made no difference whatever to the road toll in that State, but it has gathered in many millions of pounds for the New South Wales Govern­ment. That is why the honorable gentleman's clever little· Premier thought of it. Having fastened on to the proposition, he was aided by the Age newspaper, which adopted a most amateurish approach to the question of the road toll, as if Vic­toria was the only State where an accident ever occurred.

The Hon. G. J. NICOL.- You are singing a different tune to-night.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY.-How many votes did Mr. Nicol get for a seat in Cabinet? One can see the sneer all the time. Why does the honorable member not get up and state his views on this matter? How­ever, let me not be drawn aside. This may not be popular. After all, we are told that many thousands of police are to be let loose on the roads, and that is an important consideration. We take our stand as we have always done-to the devil with the newspapers or anybody else; if a thing is right, it does not matter who is against us. Do not misunder­stand me; I am not criticizing the newspapers. They have a perfect right to say what they think about this matter. We just disagree with them.

The real tragedy of it is that the Government knows we are right, but it is frightened of losing the support of the newspapers that have been asking when the" on-the-spot " fines Bill will be debated. Of course, the

newspapers are told by the Govern­ment that it is getting on with the job. We believe this Bill ought to be. defeated. My friends in the Country party have considered it, but I do not know what decision they have reached. We shall do whatever lies in our power to ensure that this Bill will be defeated, because it embraces a bad principle and will achieve nothing for the community. It will merely reap millions of pounds from the motorists under the guise of preventing accidents.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE (North-Eastern Province) .-On be­half of the Country party, I move-

That the debate be now adjourned for fourteen days. My reason for moving this motion is that on 7th April this Bill was reintroduced into this Chamber by use of the Standing Orders. A week or so later, the Minister explained to the House what was proposed. On behalf of the Country party, I offered to confer with the Government in order to discover whether we could resolve our differences. On 27th April, at about 3 p.m., a series of amendments consisting of nearly two pages of foolscap, with little explanation of what they meant, was delivered to us. We communi­cated with the Minister of Immigra­tion on Tuesday, 28th April, and at about 5 p.m. we received a reply stating that the amendments which we had received in the first instance were the final draft, despite the fact that, in his previous letter, the Minister had stated-

The amendments are not of course necessarily in any final form but I should be glad if you would consider them to see if some such amendment to the general scheme of the Bill might be acceptable. Next day they were in the final form. Because of the rush of business this week, our party has not had time to give full consideration to the pro­posals; we have had a cursory glance at them, from which it would seem that they do not. cover the issue that we raised previously-that offences be recorded by a court. We cannot follow in detail the system that is

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proposed, and I do not think either the Minister or the Government knows whether the problem can be solved in the manner proposed.

We have not had time to consider the matter fully, and I do not think it is fair to ask us to proceed with the debate before we have considered it. The House has been sitting for long hours this week, and I do not think anyone could analyse these proposals in the time that has been available. They are the reasons why I seek an adjournment of the debate for a fortnight.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-This motion, of course, is the kiss of death for this Bill, and I have no doubt that the Labour party, which, in the eyes of the Government, was opposed to it from the beginning, has closed its mind--

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-On a point of order, I submit that the Minister is entitled only to advance reasons why he is opposed to the adjourn­ment; if he is opposed to it. He ought not to debate the merits of the Bill.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett).-I uphold the point of order.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-That is precisely what I was doing; I was explaining why the Government is opposed to the adjournment of the debate. The session is about to end, and the ad­journment of the debate for a fort­night will mean that the Bill will be put on the shelf. I confess that it is a disappointment that we have not been able to convince members of the Country party, on whom we had pinned some hopes--

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province) .-1 rise to a further point of order. You Mr. Acting President, upheld my previous point of order, and now the Minister is confessing his disappointment about something or other associated with the Country party. On your

ruling, Sir, all he is entitled to do is to advance reasons why he is opposed to the adjournment of the debate; if he is opposed to it.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett).-I cannot up­hold that point of order. The Mini­ster is merely making his point clear.

The Hon. R. J. HAMER (Minister of Immigration) .-Perhaps I ought to make it even clearer. The Govern­ment regards this as an important measure, and one which would be a real contribution to road safety in this State. Therefore, we would like to have it passed. If the motion before the Chair is carried, it will mean the end of the Bill for this session and this Parliament. Be­cause we regard the Bill in that light, and because we regard the scheme which we put forward three weeks ago as workable, we must oppose the motion for the adjournment of the debate.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province).- We sup­port the Country party. We would like to kill the Bill outright, because we object to it in principle. We claim that it is a taxation measure which is opposed to the fundamental principles of the administration of justice. Failing the killing of the Bill, we shall support any move which will have the same effect. Even if it can be arranged that, instead of cutting off its head, it will die slowly, that will be good enough for us. Whoever is opposed to the Bill is a friend of ours, so that ought to dispose of the argument that we have entered into some unholy form of wedlock with the Country party. Whoever votes with us against this Bill is our friend.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM (Northern Province) .-1 want to dissociate myself from the statement. just made by Mr. Galbally, who has expressed his party's views. He has been consistent from the word "go," but I do not want it to be thought that we have entered into

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any arrangement with the Labour party to destroy this Bill. I know what will appear in the newspapers to-morrow. It will be stated that the Country party, by devious means, joined with the Labour party to throw out this Bill.

The Hon. D. J. WALTERS.-It is already in print.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-That is so. The Government knows that when legislation of this type was first envisaged, the Country party stated that it appreciated the problem associated with the loss of police time in court and that it would join with the Government in endeavouring to overcome this problem. My party has been, and always will be, prepared to co-operate with the Government in that manner. There is a great deal of misunder­standing concerning the existing law.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett).-Order! I remind Mr. Feltham that the House is at present debating the question of the adjournment of the debate on this Bill.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-I am supporting the motion for the adjournment of the debate.

The ACTING PRESIDENT.-Mr. Feltham is traversing a rather wide field, and I ask him to relate his remarks speCifically to the motion.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-I support the motion for the adjourn­ment of the debate-I do not propose to vote against the Bill-because my party wishes to discuss this matter with the Government. There is, in the existing statute law, a provision which makes it unnecessary for a motorist to attend court if he elects to confess to his guilt. The Country party has previously stated that it is prepared to support an extension of tha t principle to as many minor offences as the Government wishes, and we are still prepared to do so. However, we seek an adjournment of the debate so that the differences between our respective parties in this regard can be ironed out.

The Government wishes to' save the time of the police in court, but in addition it does not want to be bothered keeping any record of the offences for which on-the-spot fines would be imposed. We do not see why people should be fined for offences when no record will be kept of them. It is analogous to a person travelling on a tram and, after the journey has been completed, throw­ing away his tram ticket, with the result that no one knows whether he has travelled on the tram. I bow to your ruling, Mr. Acting President, and say that I support the motion for the adjournment of the debate; it is a genuine motion. However, the Country party is still prepared to discuss the problem with the Government.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett).-I propose to put the question in two parts, the first of which is-

That the debate be now adjourned.

The House divided on the motion (the Hon. W. R. Garrett in the chair)-

Ayes 15 Noes 13

Majority for the motion.. 2

Mr. Bradbury Sir Percy Byrnes Mr. Elliot Mr. Feltham Mr. Fulton Mr. Galbally Mr. Knight Mr. May

Mr. Byrne Mr. Campbell Mr. Chandler Mr. Dickie Mr. Grigg Mr. Hamer Mr. Hunt

Mr. Mansell Mr. Merrifield

AYES.

Mr. Smith Mr. Swinburne Mr. Todd Mr. Walters Mr. Walton.

Tellers: Mr. O'Connell Mr. Tripovich.

NOES.

Mr. Mack Mr. Mair Mr. Thompson Sir Arthur Warner.

Tellers: Mr. Gawith Mr. Nicol.

PAIRs.

I Mr. Thorn Mr. Gross.

The debate was adjourned until Thursday, May 14.

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ACTS INTERPRETATION (COMMENCEMENT) BILL.

The House went into Committee for the further consideration of this Bill.

Discussion was resumed of clause 2 (As to coming into operation of Act or provision where proclamation of commencement not published until after day fixed) .

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing) .-Progress was reported on this Bill some three weeks ago to allow the Law Depart­ment to investigate a query raised by Mr. Feltham. His point was that in paragraph (b) of proposed new sub­section (3) of section 4, no allow­ance had been made for the procla­mation being made on the day fixed for the operation of the Act-in other words, where the proclamation and the day of coming into operation of the Act coincided. After consulta­tion with the Law Department we agree that Mr. Feltham's point is a valid one, but feel that if provision were made to cover it, the Executive Council would be encouraged to pro­claim Acts to come into operation on the same day as the Executive Coun­cil meets. It is considered that this would be undesirable, because some brea thing space should be provided to allow people to become aware that an Act is coming into force.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM (Northern Province) .-The Minister of Housing was kind enough to in­form me outside the Chamber earlier of the view he has just expressed. I do not agree with the proposition put forward by the Minister. However, I have been only trying to help the Parliament in drafting this small Bill. If the Government does not like to accept my advice, who am I to press it any further?

The clause was agreed to.

The Bill was reported to the House without amendment, and passed through its remaining stages.

ADJOURNMENT. END OF SESSION: RETIREMENT OF

MEMBERS-HOUSING COMMISSION: SALE PRICE OF HOUSES. The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER

(Minister of Agriculture) .-By leave, I move-

That the Council, at its rising, adjourn until a day and hour to be fixed by the President or, if the President is unable to act on account of illness or other cause, by the Chairman of Committees, which time of meeting shall be notified to each honorable member by telegram or letter.

On this motion, it is appropriate for me, as Leader of the House, to fare­well three very esteemed members, men who have contributed much to the public life of this State. I refer to Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Dudley Walters and Mr. William Fulton. Those three members were ex­servicemen of the first world war, and after their retirement the Presi­dent, Sir Gordon McArthur, and Sir Percy Byrnes will be the only mem­bers of the House who were members of the first Australian Imperial Force. That fact is significant. Time marches on, members of the original Austra­lian Imperial Force are leaving, and new members are being elected.

I pay a sincere tribute to the three retiring members. It was on my nomination in the party room that Sir Arthur Warner became Leader of the Government in this House, and I am sure all members will agree that it was a magnificent choice. During the period in which I have been a member of this House, no mem­ber has been more versatile than Sir Arthur Warner. At any instant, regardless of the subject-matter, he could participate in a debate and hold his own with any other member, be he a lawyer, an accountant, or a person from any other walk of life.

The Hon. P. V. FELTHAM.-His law was not too good!

The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER.-It is not my practice to break a confidence, but that is not exactly what Mr. Fel­tham has told me on one or two occasions.

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During the war years, Sir Arthur Warner held high appointments in industry and was an adviser to the Commonwealth Government on in­dustrial affairs, munitions and other subjects. In the history of this Parliament, few members have con­tributed more to Parliamentary life and to public affairs than Sir Arthur. In leaving Parliament, he carries with him the best wishes of every member. It was a privilege to serve under him as deputy. I thank him for his consideration and co-operation at all times.

Mr. Dudley Walters, who was a lieutenant in the 5th Battalion of the first Australian Imperial Force, entered this House at the same time as Sir Arthur Warner after the 1946 elections. Mr. Walters has con­tributed much to the debates on mat­ters relating to land settlement, the State Rivers and Water Supply Com­mission, the citrus industry, and general affairs. For a long period he held with great distinction the office of Chairman of Committees and, if political conditions had been a little different, he would have attained an even higher office in this House. Over the years, in debate and pri­vately, Mr. Walters has built up a reputation for fair play. He, too, carries with him the best wishes of all members for good health and prosperity in the years that lie ahead.

Mr. Fulton, who was also a mem­ber of the first Australian Imperial Force, was a member of the Legis­lative Assembly for periods between 1940 and 1952, and became Minister of Health, a portfolio which he administered with distinction. Over a number of years, Mr. Fulton was instrumental in having a number of important measures placed on the statute-book. As members know, Mr. Fulton is fearless in debate; he has an independent mind, and is pre­pared to say exactly what he thinks. On occasions when he has thought it necessary, he has interrupted a member of his own party when mak­ing a speech, and doubtless behind

The Hon. G. L. Chandler.

the closed doors of the party room he has made an impression on his colleagues.

I thank Mr. Fulton for his friend­ship and for his co-operation in the House. I am particularly pleased that his health is such that it is possible for him to be with us to­night. Unfortunately, in the As­sembly, when remarks of this nature were made concerning three retiring members, not one of them was able, because of ill health, to be present. It is a wonderful thing that the three members who are retiring from this House are able to be in attendance to-night.

I say with great sincerity that Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton have contributed much to the public life of this State, and they leave this House enjoying the respect and affection of everybody who has had the privilege of working with them over the years.

I should like to add one or two other remarks. Unfortunately, the President is not with us to-night, but I am sure we all hope that before long he will be restored to health. There is only one Sir Gordon McArthur, and those of us who have been privileged to attend his annual dinner know what a magnificent after-dinner speaker he is. A " Digger" of the first Australian Im­perial Force, Sir Gordon McArthur has been able to "get away" with more in this House than any other member I have known in Parliament. Everybody loves him, and we hope he will have a speedy recovery to good health.

Since the last general elections, we have lost some members, and refer­ence has been made to them. We hope that those elected in their places will, as did their predecessors, con­tribute much to the debates in this House, and that they may have suc­cessful terms as representatives of the various provinces.

I thank Mr. McDonald, who has succeeded Mr. Sarah as Clerk of the House, for the work he has done since

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his appointment. He has proved him­self to be efficient and courteous, and he and the Clerk Assistant, Mr. Tierney, and the Usher of the Black Rod, Mr. Grose, make an excellent team of table officers. Mr. Jack Strong, the housekeeper, leaves to­morrow for overseas to enjoy his long service leave on the other side of the world. We all wish him a pleasant trip and a safe return.

I t would be wrong for me to fail to refer to my three colleagues, the Minister of Housing, the Minister of Health and the Minister of Immigra­tion. I am sure that no Leader could have had three better colleagues to work with. Whatever has been asked of them, they have done will­ingly, efficiently and courteously, and I know that, regardless of poli­tics, every member of this House agrees with what I have said. For my part, as Leader, I thank them sincerely. To those honorable mem­bers who have to face their masters on the 27th June, I can only say that I hope they will all have their fair share of luck.

The Hon. J. W. GALBALLY (Mel­bourne North Province).-This is a memorable night for us all, if in many ways a sad one, but before dealing with that aspect I should like to make a few other remarks. First on behalf of my colleagues and my­self, I wish to thank the Leader of the House for his unfailing courtesy. Of course, that remark applies also to his Ministerial colleagues. In fact, I should like to say to every member of the House on behalf of my party that we want to thank them for their co-operation during the session.

I am sorry that our President is not with us to-night, because I know that he would wish to be here. How­ever, I understand that he is in good hands at the Mercy Hospital and that he is as comfortable as can be ex­pected. His simple wants, I under­stand, are being attended to. There are no real problems that confront the hospital with regard to his diet, and for that we must be thankful.

He would wish to be present to­night particularly, I feel, to say fare­well to three dear colleagues.

Of course, I must deal, first, with an old antagonist, Sir Arthur Warner. It is true to say that he is one of the most gifted men who have ever entered this House or indeed Vic­torian politics. He could take his part in debate at the drop of a hat, and he always had something to say. I dealt with him over a number of years, and I had to watch him every inch of the way. If one turned around, one felt that one might be cut off politically. I must say this about my dealings with Sir Arthur Warner. People outside politics find it very hard to appreciate the camaraderie that exists among people in politics. Although the thin line that we draw between our political and our persona) relations with our opponents is a real one, it is a difficult thing to explain. Sir Arthur Warner knew exactly where that line began. One could not go one inch over it or one would be in trouble. But in all my personal relations with him I regarded him as a warm friend. Politically, he was bent on my destruction and never hesitated to say it or to act accordingly.

I believe that Sir Arthur raised the public standing of this House because he was worth listening to and you, Mr. Acting President, know that in politics it is necessary to have people who take a definite and strong point of view. In politics things are black or white; they are never grey. The people who leave their mark are those who have something to say and say it. Sir Arthur Warner did all that and we admire him for it. I am sorry that he is going. I have looked at him very closely, and I see no deterioration in his health or habits, but I did enjoy very much those years when he was in charge of this House. I think the House knows how members could never nod for a moment. If they did they were finished. In the words of Othello, our three retiring colleagues have,

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I believe, done the State some service, and we know it. As the Leader of the House has said, the three of them came back from the first world war and entered the public life of this State. They have been in it right up to the year 1964, which is a feat in which we would all be very proud to have shared. We thank them all for their services, and we con­gratulate them upon those services.

Of course, I have known Mr. Fulton for a long time. I can remember when I was on the Government side of the House, as Minister in Charge of Electrical Undertakings and Minister of Labour and Industry, trying to get some innocent little Bill through the House. There was nothing in it, but Mr. Fulton used to hold me up for hours. I have no doubt that some of the Ministerial colleagues feel the same way about him even to-night. There again is a man who has much to contribute to the public life of this State, but I feel sure, although he has not told us, that a private bereavement in which we all sympathize with him, has indicated to him that the time has come when he can no longer sustain the burden of public life.

As for Mr. Walters, he is a horse of a different colour. As our most eligible bachelor, he has no right to leave us. This handsome young blade, this gay boulevardier of Kerang and so on, as I hear, ought not in the full bloom of his youth to be retiring from this House. While I regret Sir Arthur and Mr. Fulton leaving us, I think I shall miss Mr. Dudley Walters more than anyone else because whenever one has made a speech in this House and has gone outside the Chamber Mr. Walters has always stated how one went. I know it is fashionable among the members of Parliament-we have to pres·erve certain public relations with other members-to say, "Well done." But Mr. Walters never said that to a member if he thought he had gone badly. He told the truth, and that was very refreshing. He is a man for whom we all have respect

The Hon. J. W. Galbally.

in this House. He could quite easily have been President, but he put party interests before his own. He knew that if he went into the chair he would sacrifice the majority that his party had in this House. It must have been a big decision for him to make because he had been Chairman of Committees for some years. But Mr. Walters never hesitated. He remained a back­bencher to the end. I am, like all of us, resentful of the fact that Mr. Walters is retiring. The place will not be the sam·e without him. In fact, it will not be the same without any of our three colleagues. But I sup­pose these are human affairs, and we must bow to unrelenting time. I picked this up in the Library to­night-

Success, the mark no mortal wit, Of surest hand, can always hit; For whatsoe'er we perpetrate, We do but row, we're steer'd by Fate, Which in success oft disinherits, For spurious causes, noblest merits.

Farwell to three men who have done the State noble service.

Sir PERCY BYRNES (North­Western Province) .-This is the final meeting of this Parliament, and half of the number of members of the House will face the electors. The immediate political future of those members lies in the hands of the electors, and I join with the Leader of the House and Mr. Galbally in expressing the hope that the casual­ties at the elections will not be too heavy. This House of the Parliament has its own atmosphere, which is one that I think we all enjoy irrespective of the political party to which we belong. It is very pleasing to assemble here to-night to say words that we really mean to three men­Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Fulton, and Mr. Walters. That is part and parcel of our way in this Chamber of con­ducting the political affairs of this State. Each one of those gentlemen has within him some element of greatness.

I have known Mr. Walters since he returned from the first world war, and he was one of a bunch of

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" Diggers" who were more or less forced into Parliament because of the difficult times suffered during the depression years not only by people on the land but also by all classes in the community. The returned sol­diers who were battling to reinstate themselves in society found it hard to settle back into civilian life and Mr. Fulton was one of this same band of men. Circumstances forced some of the leaders of the returned soldiers to take an active part in politics, and Mr. Walters was one of them.

Any person who moves about the northern and north-western part of Victoria will find, even amongst the younger generation, that there is not a man who is more highly respected or more highly appreciated for the work he has done than Dudley Walters, and that is a great tribute to our colleague.

Privately, he has given a great deal of time to all sorts of develop­mental activities within that area, and that development has been not only for his own good but also for the good of every section of the com­munity. He has given a lifetime of service to the State.

As was stated by the Leader of the House, Mr. Walters could have occupied a high position in this House, but he chose to put his duty to his own colleagues and comrades first. To do that requires a consider­able element of greatness, and for that reason alone we should appre­ciate the fact that we are saying farewell to a man whom we respect and who has given a lot to the com­munity.

I have known Sir Arthur Warner for a long time. We sat side by side in that ill-fated composite Govern­ment which had a great deal of talent but which did not last for very long. During that time I learned to respect him, and we formed a friendship which has lasted over the years. I say without fear of contradiction that when somebody says that Sir Arthur Warner is one of the greatest

politicians and greatest personalities we have in this House, he is quite correct. He is a man of tremendous energy, with a great fund of know­ledge, a great capacity for learning and seeing the other person's point of view-although he never takes it unless it suits him. However, he has an infinite capacity for coming down on the right side for himself or his colleagues, but he did not always take advantage of weaklings. I think we should recognize that fact.

When he became a Minister in this House he held several portfolios, but in the Bolte Government he chose to take that of transport because it was a challenge to him. He accepted that challenge blithely and gaily because he thought he might be able to do something with this heap of junk we call the railways in Victoria. He tried very hard. At times we were never quite sure where he was going or what he was driving at, but he did obtain a thorough understanding of the railway system and that was the first time in the modern history of Victoria that anybody has given so much time to understanding the ramifications of the transport system of this State and its trials and tribulations.

Sir Arthur Warner did his best to make the railways pay. I think his judgment of whether anything is right or wrong is based on whether or not it shows a profit, and I agree with him in that contention. If something does not show a profit it is not much good. There are many avenues of activity in life which do not show a profit, and although the railways under his guidance might not have reached the happy position of being able to pay their way, they got very close to it, and in the process Sir Arthur Warner, by his administration, cut away a lot of the dead wood. I think that took a lot out of him; in fact, it took more out of him than he will admit.

The difficulties associated with trying to evolve a satisfactory system of transport in this State, while at

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the same time giving service to the ·Government he represented and not taking action in the transport sphere which would be detrimental to the :policy laid down by the Government .of the day, was a most onerous task.

I join in paying a tribute to Sir Arthur Warner because I believe he is a man of high principles, tre­mendous energy, enormous capacity for work and one of the brightest personalities in this House. I thank him for all the advice I have received from him from time to time, the assistance I have received and the friendship we have formed even though we were not in the same political party.

My friend Mr. Fulton and I came into Parliament on the same day. Although he was elected first a member of the Legislative Assembly, while I became a member of the Legislative Council, we have been very close in. all of those years. Mr. Fulton was Minister of Health in the McDonald Government.

To-day, when we reflect upon the Ministry of Health and realize what an important portfolio it is, I am re­minded of the day when we were forming a composite Government, and portfolios were being offered to members of the Country party. The late Sir Albert Dunstan was not exactly persona grata with some members of the Liberal party, with which we were joining, and Sir Albert considered that it was some­what humiliating for him to be offered the portfolio of Health. Of course, Mr. Mack would not as­sume that attitude, because to-day the Department of Health is very im­portant. Sir Albert Dunstan set out to build up the status of his portfolio. He held conferences with leaders of the medical profession and other people interested in public health. He reorganized the tuber­culosis organization and stepped up work on cancer research. Under his able administration the importance and work of the Ministry of Health expanded considerably. This im­portant work was continued and

Sir Percy BY,mes.

~ompleted by Mr. Fulton who, it could be said, put the coping stone on the work commenced by Sir Albert Dunstan.

We must thank Mr. Fulton for his competent administration; the Mental Hygiene Branch, in its present form, could almost be termed his "brain child." Under Mr. Fulton, the work of cancer research was greatly deve­loped, and activity in the field of dental care for children was improved and expanded. I could enumerate many items in which the persistence and capacity of Mr. Fulton to get down to the problem has paid tre­mendous dividends to the State.

Whenever he set out to do some­thing, whether it was in the field of mental health, or in some other sphere related to his Department, Mr. Fulton devoted his whole-hearted at­tention to it. Honorable members who can look back 25 years will recall that the press was very trenchant in its criticism of the conditions at the Kew Children's Cottages and other shortcomings in so far as the treat­ment of mental patients was con­cerned. It required a courageous man to tackle these 'problems, but, with his usual doggedness and per­severance, Mr. Fulton commenced on the ground floor, so to speak, and by devoting his utmost efforts to the most minute details, he was responsible for the appointment of the present head of the Mental Health Authority. Together they brought to its present state of effi­ciency the mental health organiza­tion which exists to-day. For his achievements in that regard alone, the State owes a great deal to Mr. Fulton.

I regret that three honoured mem­bers of this House will no longer be with us when Parliament resumes fol­lowing the forthcoming elections. Of course, no honorable member can pre­dict what might happen on 27th June so far as the other members are con­cerned; that is something which is in the lap of the gods. Perhaps the three

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retiring members have done the right thing in standing down. They may feel that it is better to " go out" and help to choose successors rather than to waste more time in the hurly-burly of politics. To my mind, this Chamber owes the three members concerned a great deal, the State owes them a lot, and the people of Australia-after all, what Victoria does affects the whole of the Commonwealth-are similarly indebted to them. I should like to thank the three retiring mem­bers for their companionship during the time we have known them. All honorable members appreciate hav­ing been associated with them.

I shall conclude by thanking the Leader of the House for the courtesies which he, and his fellow Ministers, have extended to hon­orable members. Furthermore, I pay a tribute to Mr. Galbally and Mr. Merrifield for their co-operation and kindness during the session. I am sure that Mr. Merrifield would like to have been present to-day. The co-operation which Mr. Galbally has shown in difficult moments when it has not been easy for us to under­stand each other is deeply appreciated.

I regret that the President was unable to be present during the final sittings of the session. I am sure the honorable gentleman will be lying in his bed sipping large quantities of iced water, drinking our health and wishjng that he was here. I do not wish to display any disrespect to you, Mr. Acting President, when I say that all honorable members would like Sir Gordon to be here. He is one of this Parliament's outstanding personalities, and a man for whom we have the highest affection and respect. Unfortunately, Sir Gordon is in the Mercy Hospital although, I understand, he is pro­gressing satisfactorily and may be discharged from hospital within a few days. I should like to express our thanks for the manner in which he controlled members whilst the business of this House was being conducted.

I should also like to thank the new clerk, Mr. Les. McDonald, Mr. Tierney, and the other officers of this Chamber, who so often assist hon~ orable members. I extend my re­marks to cover everybody con­nected with this House and with the Parliament. I express sincere appre­ciation to the Hansard staff and to other members of the Parliamentary staff who do not sit at the table.

I sincerely trust that Mr. Strong and his wife will enjoy themselves during their forthcoming visit over· seas. I understand that they wi11 shortly be going on a trip which wil1 embrace Hong Kong, the Middle East, Japan and England. I trust they will have an enjoyable time and that Mr. Strong will return to duty thoroughly refreshed and invigorated, so that he may continue his good work in this Chamber.

The Hon. R. W. MACK (Minister of Health) .-1 should like to join in the tributes which have been paid to the three men of stature who wil1 shortly be leaving this Parliament. Each of them possesses a different kind of stature. No one, I suggest, has a faster working brain that Sir Arthur Warner. No honorable mem­ber trailed his coat so successfully and then enjoyed the fight which came from it as did the former Leader of this House. It has been a pleasure to see Sir Arthur in action, and to appreciate his capacity as Leader of the House.

I, personally, am indebted to Mr. Dudley Walters, whom I succeeded as Chairman of Committees. Mr. Walters was most generous, warning me of the possible pitfalls asso­ciated with the Chairman's position. He was always willing to advise me and to help me to carry out my task to the best of my ability. Finally, I should like to pay a tribute to Mr. Fulton. Whatever Mr. Fulton's record may be, he will forever be remembered, as Sir Percy Byrnes stated, not only for his work in the mental health field, but also for his accomplishments and for his con­tinued interest in matters pertaining

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to the health of the community. Mr. Fulton is noted for his· absolute sincerity of purpose, and he is well remembered by the officers of the Department with which he was formerly associated.

It would be fair to say-Mr. Fulton would agree with me in this respect-that his greatest achieve­ments were in bringing about a com­pletely new look in the mental health activities of this State. Mr. Merri­field and I were members· of the Legislative Assembly at the time when Mr. Fulton piloted through Parliament the first mental health legislation, which assisted in bring­ing about a new look in this field. All honorable members regret that these three men of stature wiU be departing from the political scene which they have graced for such a long time.

The Hon. L. H. S. THOMPSON (Minister of Housing) .-My Leader has asked me to rectify an oversight of his in inadvertently omitting to thank Mr. Galbally and Sir Percy Byrnes for their co-operation during this session. Undoubtedly their realistic and sensible approach has helped to keep debates in this Chamber on a high level and, as a member of the Government, I can say that we have appreciated it to the full.

Recently when speaking to a Bill, I took the opportunity of paying a tribute to the retiring members, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton. As is well known, Mr. Fulton was a dedicated and enthusiastic Minister of Health, and in that capacity he introduced a number of very valuable reforms in this State. He will be greatly missed. Mr. Dudley Walters has been a most popular, impartial and friendly member of the House for many years. He has been particularly friendly to new mem­bers; indeed, he always went out of his way to make a new member feel at home and a part of the Legislative Council team. As one who had the benefit of his advice on entering this

Chamber, I should like to thank him for going out of his way to make me feel a bit at home in this institution.

Finally, I refer to my colleague, Sir Arthur Warner. For nine years we have been representing Higin­botham; he has been the "Higin" and I have been the "botham." Whether he was conducting a verbal battle with Mr. Galbally, making a point in Cabinet or in the party room, swimming ashore near Wonthaggi, or winning the Sydney­Hobart yacht race, he did it in impressive style. There is no doubt that few men during their period of service in this Parliament have made a greater impact on the institution of Parliament than has Sir Arthur Warner. Although he is now leaving the arena of politics, I am sure we shall hear a great deal of him in the years ahead. If there is one pleasing feature about the retirement of these three mem­bers, it is that they are going out to civilian life, if one may use the expression, to render more years of service to the community and to enjoy some healthy and happy years of retirement.

The Hon. I. A. SWINBURNE (North-Eastern Province) .-1 wish to add a tribute to our three friends who are leaving us this evening. In 1946, Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Dudley Walters, Mr. Kittson from Ballarat and myself entered this Chamber on the same day, and we could be regard­ed as the" four musketeers." During the eighteen years that have elapsed since then, I have formed a very close friendship with them. As my Leader said a short time ago, when one enters this House one forms a kinship with those who are elected at the same time.

Over the years we have had many, many battles On different subjects, and many pleasant times together. My friend, Bill Fulton, has been a very able member of the Country party team. He and I were in Cabinet together in the early 1950's, and from that time onwards he has been a close associate of mine. As

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the member of the Country party who has the duty of seeing that our members are in the Chamber at the right times and ensuring that the Bills are handled, I can say that Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton were always towers of strength. One could hand either of them a Bill knowing that it would be handled in a most efficient manner. Bill Fulton dealt with the measures given to him with forthrightness and great sincerity. Nobody could prevent him from say­ing what he felt he should put to· the House. He continued to make his points right to the finish. Mr. Dudley Walters had a different ap­proach to legislation, but he always paid the utmost concern to the measures with which he had to deal.

I am sure that the three members . who are leaving us to-night have made a definite impact on the political life of this State, each in his own way. Probably each had a different way of achieving his aims. We did not always agree with them, either in the House, or, in the case of my two colleagues, in our party debates, but we were always friends. The State is richer for their having accepted the challenge of public life, and they leave us now, as the Minister of Housing said, to undertake further service to the community. 1 am certain that none of these men will stop serving the public. They will act in some capacity or other. How­ever, they feel that it is time for them to retire from political life and obtain a little rest from the arduous labours which are associated with parlia­mentary membership, not only in the Chamber but outside it. 1 trust that each of them will have a long and happy retirement, and will come back here from time to time for many years to come to keep alive the great friendships we have formed with them.

The Hon. A. K. BRADBURY (North-Eastern Province) .-1 wish to add a few words to what has been said by the other speakers. 1 join with Mr. Galbally particularly in regarding this as a really sad day.

I t is sad to see three men of the standing of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Dudley Walters and Mr. Bill Fulton saying goodbye to this house. I am certain that the Legislative Council is better for their period of service. Despite the fact that we may belong to different parties, one of the great pleasures of membership of this House is the friendships one makes with members. Sir Arthur Warner has been fearless in advancing his poli­cies; nevertheless I have greatly ap­preciated the friendship 1 have re­ceived from him. It is a really sad occasion to have to say farewell to two colleagues like Dudley Walters and Bill Fulton. Over the eleven years 1 have been a member 1 have formed a very close attachment to these two men. 1 shall be losing one of my sparring partners on the bil­liard table in Bill Fulton, and 1 do not know what 1 shall do in my spare time here.

One of the greatest tributes that could be paid to a parliamentarian was given to Mr. Bill Fulton outside this Chamber at a function in his home town of Maffra. 1 stayed with him last week-end, and other col­leagues of ours journeyed to Maffra on Monday night to attend the func­tion. No more glowing tributes could have been paid to any man than those paid to Bill Fulton when approxi­mately 500 people from the vast Gippsland Province travelled to Maffra to say "thank you" for his services to Gippsland and to the State of Victoria. 1 join with pre­vious speakers in thanking the three retiring members, first and foremost, for the friendships 1 have enjoyed with them since I have been a mem­ber here, and secondly, for the parts they have played in this Parliament.

Sir ARTHUR WARNER (Higin­botham Province) .-Mr. Acting Pre­sident, perhaps on this, the last occasion on which 1 shall make a speech in this House, 1 may be per­mitted to address members as "Gentlemen." First, I should like to express my thanks for the remarks

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which indicate the good opinion held of me. I find farewell speeches some­·what difficult. I have been· a member of this House for a long time, and at some stage or another I have enjoyed battles with probably every other member. I have had battles with members of my own party in the Cabinet room and in the party room, and sometimes, although I may have been in the minority, I have even been right!

In all these times, I have felt that there was a great spirit of friendship among all members in this political arena. I have been a member of the Legislative Council for eighteen years, and I regard them as the most educational years of my life. In business and in other spheres one learns a certain amount about routine, techniques, and development in various directions, but probably there is no greater educator in the humanities than politics.

Curiously enough, I learned to like even the members of the Opposition! I feel that if I had not liked them they would not have liked me, so probably there is a reciprocity of appreciation on all sides. It is curious that men who set out to fight for one another's political destruction, and even plan it with great forethought, can still, as individuals, hope that the dire plots that they have been working will not result in the down­fall of a particular person who has been the subject of their attentions.

In departing, I thank the Leader of the House, the members of the Cabinet, and all the members of my party who, over the years, have helped me. The Opposition has sometimes helped me too, but un­knowingly. I thank the interjectors who have assisted me on various occasions when I have been making speeches. The debates themselves have been very educational.

I should like to say a few words about the House and the influence I think debating has on members of Parliament and on the public. Debates take place on Bills, and one side or the other may lose a particular measure,

Sir Arthur Warner.

but the expression of different points of view must be educational to some member, and may give rise to another line of thinking when a somewhat similar Bill is brought in on another occasion.

Although many people may think that Parliament is really the official dress-shoWing of a pre-determined legislative programme, I do not think this is really true. I think that, in the long term, the debates in this House have a great influence on the legislation which Parliament ultimately passes .. I am a firm believer in the processes of the first reading, the second reading, and the third reading of a Bill, and of having Bills passed through all stages in the two Houses. I was disappointed to-night to read an article in one of the newspapers sug­gesting that perhaps this House was redundant. When I look back over the years durir..g which· I have been a member of this House, I consider that very few Bills passed by both Houses have been satisfactory. After they have been examined by the Parliamentary Draftsman and his assistants, thoroughly debated in the Lower House, and discussed by people with members of Parliament, they have found their way into this Chamber, where they have been closely scrutinized, but still they come out very largely. a mess. This is true, and but for the Opposition, of course, they would be worse.

Although Bills which are enacted by Parliament are adjudicated upon, and subjected to all sorts of regi­mentation processes, a tremendous number of puzzles result and this faulty legislation must be corrected. Accordingly, I firmly believe that in the passing of legislation Parliament should move slowly. In saying that, I must admit that to a Minister delay is terrible. Every Government feels that each Bill is sacrosanct, and that it must go through in the precise form in which it is drafted, without a word of alteration. This happens with every Government, irrespective of its political complexion.

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What the politician in power wants is not necessarily for the good of the public. It is for the good of the public that there should be the utmost delay in changing the law. Legislative proposals ought to be subject to considerable delay, debate, and examination. All members of this House must, in their time, have met hundreds of constituents who have said, "I did not know that this Bill was going through the House. If I had known, I would have put some other point of view." When Bills are rushed through, members of the public are prevented from exercising their undeniable right to have their points of view incor­porated, if possible, in· a Bill.

Therefore, I urge retention of this House of Parliament. I think that in the long run it is of advantage. This has been a "three-cornered" House in the whole of the eighteen years during which I have been a member. I do not remember one occasion­there may have been one, but I do not know of it-when one party has had an absolute majority. This makes for a democratic approach, and much as the Country party has annoyed me from time to time, and much as I have been dismayed by its horrible policy, I feel that the three­cornered arguments, and the delays and frustrations that the Country party has caused, have been of some benefit in the legislation which has ultimately been passed.

I t is a sorrowful event for me to depart from the friends that I have here. I shall miss them very much indeed. I have loved all the years I have spent here, including the arguments. If I have rendered any service, I can only say that I have received my reward from the enjoy­ment I have derived. I have thoroughly enjoyed my membership of this House and, if I may have done anything of any value, I ask for no thanks, because I have enjoyed every minute of it. I have loved the fights and the arguments in which I have participated and valued the education I have received here.

I think I should go. I think one reaches a stage when one's health determines that one should no longer go through the stress of trying to do two jobs at once, and jokingly I now say that I depart from politics in order to go back to work. But I do so in great sorrow. I should like to remain here, and if circumstances permitted I would perhaps have preferred to give up work and remain in politics.

In conclusion, Mr. Acting Presi­dent, I again thank the House, the members of the Cabinet, the staff and others for their very good wishes, for their contributions to the very good times we have had, and for the way in which I have been permitted to enjoy my period of membership of this House.

The Hon. D. J. WALTERS (Northern Province) .-Mr. Acting President, I sincerely thank those members who have made the very kindly remarks about myself and my colleagues. I deeply appreciate them, and I can assure you that they will remain in my memory as long as I live. I am really sorry to be leaving this Parliament, but for the last two or three years I have felt that I should do so. I consider that at my age, in fairness to my health, which is quite good, to my constituents, to the party, and to the Parliament, it is time that I stood down and let a younger and perhaps more vigorous man, with new ideas, take my place.

I believe I have reached the right decision, although it was difficult and I regretted having to make it. When I was first elected to this Parliament eighteen years ago, my predecessor the Hon. Richard Kilpatrick said to me, " Dudley, when you get into the Legislative Council you will find that it is a House of gentlemen." In those days adult suffrage had not been intro­duced and the class of m·ember was slightly different; members were much older than present members of this House. Mr. Kilpatrick meant those words in their true sense. Over

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the years I have come to realize that his words were true, and I shall pass them on to my successor. He meant that the members of this House were upright, sincere men who were tolerant of the other person's opinion and were willing to devote them­s·elves to public service. I have come to admire the members of this House, both past and present, for their tolerance and understanding of the other person's point of view.

I trust that this House will remain in existence for a great many years. I look forward to meeting members of this House again socially. I can honestly say that the years I have spent her·e have been some of the happiest years of my life. I leave without the slightest regret for any­thing I have done or, possibly, have not done.

I wish to thank the President, who is absent, and I trust that his health will shortly be restored to him. It has been a pleasure to sit under his jurisdiction. He has conducted the affairs of this House in a kindly, sympathetic and knowledgeable manner. I wish to pay tribute, also, to the Leader of the Government in this House. I do not think any other man I have known has commanded the respect, friendship and admira­tion in the same way as has Mr. Chandler. I trust that he will remain a member of this House for many years to set an example to others who will follow. Mr. Chandler has worked with every­one in a co-operative manner and there has never been the slightest sign of nastiness. It has been a pleasure to have been associated with the Leader of the House and to have seen him at work. I believe the three other occupants of the Minis­terial bench in this Chamber make a particularly fine team which any man could be proud to have with him.

It has always been a pleasure to listen to Mr. Galbally. He is a great fighter and whatever he says here is said in the light of his political beliefs. Outside this House he is a

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friend and a man whom I greatly admire. My Leader, Sir Percy Byrnes, has been a member of this House for many years. I t has been a pleasure to work with him, and I trust that he will remain active in political life for many years to come. My colleague, Mr. Swinburne and I came into this Hous·e together as raw recruits. Our association has been a particularly friendly one, and I wish him a continuation of the political success which he has gained whilst he has been a member of this Parliament.

I, too, pay tribute to the work of the table officers, who are responsible for the running of this Parliament. It has been a pleasure to be associated with them and with members of the Hansard staff. I pay a great tribute to the attendants. Wherever they happen to be in this building no one could wish for more courtesy and consideration to be shown. I have never had the slightest reason to complain about the conduct of any attendant, either in this Council or in the Assembly, and I thank them sincerely for the co-operation and kindness which they have displayed towards m·e and their readiness to help whenever required.

Among other people I wish to thank are the manager of the refreshment room and his staff. They are all part of Parliament and they all take a personal interest in it. They carry out their duties in the same way as we in this House under­take our duty to the public. I thank all honorable members for the kindly remarks they have passed and for their friendship. It has been a real pleasure to be associated with them, irrespective of political parties.

I am a firm believer in the three­party system. I believe it is neces­sary in a country like Australia, and I trust that the system will never be abandoned. This may be a little bit of heresy, but I hope all the mem­bers of this House are re-elected at the forthcoming election. I thank you, Mr. Acting President, Ministers

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and members for the opportunity of having been associated with you for so many years.

The Hon. W. O. FULTON (Gipps­land Province) .-This is one of those moments when a person takes a retrospective glance down the avenue of time and takes stock of the different phases of his life which have probably passed all too quickly. Apart from the ti.me spent ~ith my family my happIest memones are centred around the Parliament of Vic­toria. On the 12th June of this year it will be 22 years since I first entered Parliament in the dark days of the war. I have known both vic­tory and defeat. During my term in this Parliament I have learnt to respect and understand the members of both Houses through having been afforded the privilege of represent­ing, first as a member of the L~gis­lative Assembly, the people of GIppS­land North, and later, as a member of this House, the people in the province of Gippsland. I thank them most sincerely for having seen fit to elect me as one of their representa­tives in Parliament.

I recall that shortly after the war I played a leading part in the . re­turned soldiers' league. At that tIme the league was adamant that the Commonwealth Government should accept responsibility for the men who had become mentally ill through their service to their country. From that representation the Common­wealth Government established a separate institution for servicemen at Bundoora. Little did I think in those days when I was endeavouring to obtain better treatment for the mentally ill that it would fall to my lot to introduce a Bill setting up a new Mental Hygiene Authority in Victoria. When the Premier of the day, Sir John McDonald, offered me the portfolio of Health, I thought I was the least fitted man in the State to have it. As in doing all other tasks in my life, I endeavoured to familiarize myself with the job and do what was expected of me.

I thank the Labour party most sincerely for the part it played in supporting me in that legislation, be­cause I believe it has brought a new deal to the mentally ill in Victoria. I had always in my mind the some­what sobering thought that one of the great men in Australia who, on three occasions, had been Prime Minister, was afflicted in the closing days of his life with mental inca­pacity. I have always considered that there is no difference between mental illness and physical illness. The same care and attention should be given to those who fall mentally ill as is given to those who suffer with physical illness. I look back with pride and thankfulness for hav­ing been enabled to play my part in that respect.

I have formed many friendships during my Parliamentary career. I appreciate the sentiments expressed by Mr. Mack, both on his behalf and also on behalf of the staff of the Department of Health. I have al­ways thought that the ,chief aim in life should be to induce people to work with you instead of against you. I learnt, through playing foot­ball early in my life, that one of the chief attributes of an Australian is to be able to take a knock as well as to give one. Fortunately, that is one of the characteristics of our race. At times in Parliament I might have appeared to some honorable mem­bers to have adopted a rather forth­right attitude, but I have never borne ill will or a grudge against any man. I hope to terminate my career in the same spirit.

I have made a deliberate decision to retire. I made up my mind some time ago that I would relinquish politics at the end of this Parlia­ment. Since I was only twelve and a half years of age, I have been on the road, virtually battling for my­self. Since I was discharged from the first Australian Imperial Force there was not one day on which I could not work, until I became ill last November. I am thankful that I have recovered and that to a large

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extent I was able to carryon in a manner worthy of the traditions of this Parliament.

I believe that in this life every man should give of his best-no man can do more, and no man should do less. Those traditions are also observed in the Australian Natives Association, a great Australian organization of which I am a former chief president. If the records of that great organization are examined, it will be found that it has played a most important part, not only in the development of Victoria, but also of the whole, of Australia. After serving for many years on the board of directors of the Australian Natives Association I decided to retire. Younger men will come on and can perform their tasks much better than I-they have younger ideas. It should be appre­ciated that the province which Mr. May and I have the honour to repre­sent is 300 miles long and 150 miles at its widest point. The territory embraces mountainous country which is serviced in many instances by only one road, so that when travelling about the Province it is frequently necessary to traverse the same route on both forward and return journeys. Thus it can be seen why I have decided to retire from active politics. However, I hope that I shall be of service to my country and be able to take an active interest in affairs that mean so much in the human side of life-in our hospitals, homes for the aged, and care for the mentally retarded children, and other avenues where there is so much room for service.

I wish to thank all to-night who have expressed their kind thoughts and utterances towards me in appre­ciation of what I have endeavoured to do. I have a great admiration for my two colleagues who are also retiring to-night. Although Sir Arthur Warner and I have differed on many occasions, he has at last come around to the thinking of the Country party because he has acquired a property on the Goulburn

The Hon. W. O. Fulton.

river. He must now think that life on the land is worth while. I have been fortunate in knowing my old friend Dudley Walters. He is a man of high ideals and strength of character. He has a sincere purpose in life which has endeared him to the people of the northern part of the State.

To the Leader of the House and his fellow Ministers I wish to extend my thanks for their courtesy and their unfailing good thoughts. They would do what they could in relation to any points raised not only by mys·elf but by other honorable members; and in many instances they went to a good deal of trouble to do so. I met the Leader of the House early in my Parliamentary career. He has drawn men to him by his strength of character, his unfailing courtesy and his knowledge of the job that he was doing at the time. My first contact with him was when he occupied the position of chairman of a committee which gave a helping hand to those who were burnt out by bush fires in Victoria. No other man could have done better.

Mr. Galbally is a man we must all admire. The family name of Galbally stands high in Victoria in many respects, perhaps one of the main reasons being that the family once lived in Gippsland. To my Leader, Sir Percy Byrnes, I offer my thanks for the privilege of having been associated with him over the years. All of these honorable members have played a great part in the life of Victoria, and have left their mark. In the last birthday honours list, Her Majesty the Queen saw fit to confer on Sir Percy a knighthood, which has been well and truly earned.

It may seem strange, but over about 60 years I have seen a great change come over the Common-' wealth. I have seen the practice grow of Parliament delegating authority to Boards and Commissions far beyond what should occur. I believe that Parliament should have the supreme voice in everything that

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relates to the government of the State and its people. I believe in the system that has been developed in this land of ours as an inheritance from what we know as the Mother­land. I know of no system in the world that has done so much for mankind as the Parliamentary system that developed in that small island many years ago. May it long con­tinue. While it continues to operate in its present form, the common man and woman need have no fear of a dictatorship arising to usurp the privileges of Parliament.

I thank the officers at the table for their unfailing courtesy and assis­tance. Their advice helps to keep honorable members on the right road because, even after many years, none of us fully understands all the avenues and intricacies of Parlia­mentary procedure. I know the new Clerk, Mr. Les. McDonald, with whom I was associated in another place, will follow in the footsteps of those illustrious men who have set a path for all to follow.

To the staff generally, and particu­larly the outside staff, I express my thanks. In my 22 years here, I have never had one complaint or cross word with any member of the staff. That is a tribute to their character and knowledge of the human side of life. At times we must try them, but it never shows even on their faces. I wish Mr. Strong and his wife a happy trip to the land of his birth. I hope they have a wonderful time over there. I thank the ladies in the dining-room for their unfailing courtesy and attention to our needs, at any time of the day or night. They always attend with a smile and grace that we sincerely appreciate.

To the Hansard staff, who have done so much over the years to mould the speeches that a poor mortal like myself may make, I express thanks for their services to the House. When I read some of my speeches I wonder whether I used the words that seem so much better than what I thought I had said.

Finally, I thank all honorable members for the privilege of having been associated with them over the years. If the good Lord spares me, I shall be coming back every now and then to see how they are all getting on. Mr. Acting President, I should like you to convey to the President, Sir Gordon McArthur, my wishes for his speedy recovery-I understand it will take a little while-and that when this Parliament reassembles he will continue to grace the chair for very many years.

The ACTING PRESIDENT (the Hon. W. R. Garrett).-Before putting the motion, I should like to pass one or two remarks. I am sure the House regrets very much that, due to indisposition, our dearly loved President, Sir Gordon McArthur, is unable to be with us to-night at this last meeting of this Parliament. I am sure he would wish me in his stead to pass on to you, Mr. Leader, his thanks for your assistance to him during the period, also to your Minis­terial colleagues, the Leader of the Labour party, Mr. Galbally, and the Leader of the Country party, Sir Percy Byrnes. I convey the Presi­dent's thanks, too, to all members of the Government and other parties. On his behalf, I also thank the table officers, Mr. Strong and his staff of attendants, and all the other officers who assist us in this institution.

It is unfortunate that the President is unable to be present on this occa­sion. We all very much appreciate the wise way in which he has pre­sided over this Parliament for a period of many years. His touch of humour has endeared him to all of us. We shall always remember his wisdom and courtesy, and we trust that he will very soon be restored to health, and be back in his old position in the next Parliament.

On my own behalf, I would say that recently I have found myself in the position of Chairman of Committees, and I have felt honoured and also conscious of the stature of the men who have occupied that posi­tion before myself, namely, Mr.

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Walters, Mr. Mack and the late Sir Ewen Cameron. In the last few days, I have been honoured to occupy this chair by the pleasure of the House, and I have appreciated it very much. I have had the co-operation of all honorable members as well as the Leader of the House, the Minis­ters, party Leaders, and the staff. This has made the last few days very easy for me. The Leader of the Opposi­tion in this House could have made my task difficult had he so desired, but he has not done so and I appre­ciate that.

In regard to the three honorable members who are leaving us, I would say this. When I first became a member of this House six years ago, I counted it a privilege to serve my apprenticeship under Sir Arthur War­ner. As everyone has said, he is, of course, a man of outstanding ability. I envy his electronic brain, not produced by his own company. I have one thing in common with him. I flew Spitfires in the last war; he flew balloons in the first war. There was a slight difference in their speed, but I am sure that a balloon was a far more dangerous thing to navigate through the heavens than the com­paratively modern aircraft that I was privileged to fly. Sir Arthur is still with us, and we all wish him well but not in his retirement because I am sure with his disposition he could never retire to a quiet life as some other folk do.

When I first came here some six years ago, Mr. Dudley Walters was very friendly and helpful to me. As the Minister of Housing mentioned, with his disposition he will always help younger people along with the benefit of his advice. That is some­thing we all appreciate very much. When I first started to make an occa­sional speech, I thought Mr. Fulton was the most difficult man in the House. I regarded him as my chief interjector because he carried out that task so consistently. Over a period I learned-I should have learn­ed it quicker than I did-to ignore his interjections. That is the most

effective way to stop interjections. In my earlier days, I used to cross swords with Mr. Fulton and perhaps

. was a little warm about his com­ments, but I think his bark was worse than his bite. We became warm friends and I have appreciated that friendship very much. That is all I have to say on that aspect.

On behalf of the President, Sir Gordon McArthur, I wish the best of everything to the retiring members, and I am sure that he would want to wish all the other honorable mem­bers the best of luck in the forth­coming elections. It is a good thing that the speeches are being made in this House to-night because we have a very accurate recording system and in his comfortable bed in the Mercy Hospital, Sir Gordon will be able to read what was said, and I am sure he will get some enjoyment and some amusement from that occupa­tion which, on account of the length of these speeches will take him some­thing like an hour to accomplish.

The motion was agreed to. The Hon. G. L. CHANDLER

(Minister of Agriculture) .-1 move-

That the House do now adjourn.

The Hon. J. M. TRIPOVICH (Doutta Galla Province) .-1 apolo­gize for having to speak at this time of the night on the matter I am now about to mention, but I discussed it with the Clerk and he advised me that this was the only opportunity I would have to raise the subject. In view of the discussions which took place in this House last night, I was surprised to read in the first edition of the Herald to-day an article on the very matter that we were dis­cussing. It appears under the head­ing " Government to Cut House Price by £405: Adjustment for Buyers." The article reads-

The State Government has cut the maxi­mum selling price of Housing Commission houses by £405.

The Minister of Housing, Mr. Thompson, announcing that to-day, said the drop in maximum price from £5,400 to £4,995 should attract a greater number of low" income buyers.

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This is the point on which I express concern.

Mr. Thompson said the new maximum price would apply to all standard villa houses, but in no case would the Commis­sion sell a house at a loss.

The Minister concluded his state­ment by saying-

It is most conscious of the needs of the lower-income group.

The points on which I take issue with the Minister of Housing are that if the Minister, at a time when it is alleged that housing costs are increasing, can reduce the price of Housing Commission homes by 8 per cent. and say that they are not being sold at a loss, then he is· publicly admitting that for five years he has been robbing the people who bought homes from the Commission, includ­ing those in the low income group about whom he expressed some con­cern last night. How long has the Commission been making this hand­some profit?

The Minister has stated that every­one who paid over £4,995 for a house will be credited with the difference between that figure and the actual price paid. Is this a touch of guilt coming out and has the Minister realized that he has been robbing the low income group? Has the Minister altered the formula by which the houses have been costed? If the formula has not been altered, then the touch of guilt goes back to the time when houses were sold for £4,300. What about some re­imbQrsement to those purchasers? They are entitled to some considera­tIon from the Minister.

Many questions could be asked on this, and I think the Minister has robbed the public. I should like to know whether this is an election bait and whether it was forced on to the Minister because of the admission he made last night that the £100 deposit did not apply to Housing Commission homes sold at prices over £5,400? When we debated this issue last night and drove the Minister into a corner on the question of the prices of homes, he said that the

Government was considering that aspect. On the second occasion on which we drove the Minister into a corner-I have checked Hansard on this-he said that the Government was looking into this· point at the moment. That was less than 24 hours ago.

If this decision was made by the Minister this morning-it certainly was not made at a Cabinet meeting -then he must have some ulterior motive. If he did not make that decision this morning, he has shown a complete and utter disregard for this Parliament. He has reduced it further, as my Leader pointed out last night, to a point of contempt by his failure to explain to this House what the Government proposed to do about reducing the prices of these homes.

My party considers this a serious matter, and to those who have pur­chased Housing Commission homes over the past ten years I say: The Minister now admits that he robbed you. Any company which could re­duce its prices by 8 per cent. when it is alleged that costs were increasing would be publicly making such an admission.

The motion was agreed to. The House adjourned at 10.57 p.m.

14tgislatiut i\!l!ltmbly. Thursday, April 30, 1964.

The SPEAKER (Sir William McDonald) took the chair at 11.27 a.m., and read the prayer.

MENTAL HEALTH. COMMONWEALTH GRANTS: ST.

NICHOLAS'S HOSPITAL: PENSIONS: INSTITUTIONS. Mr. WILKES (Northcote) asked

the Minister of Education, for the Minister of Health-

1. What amount it is anticipated Victoria will receive under the States Grants (Mental Health Institutions) Bill now before the Federal Parliament, and on what basis the grant will be provided?

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2. Whether, in order to avail itself of an increased Commonwealth matching grant, the Government intends to spend additional sums on mental health; if so, what is the proposed additional amount?

3. What amount is already allocated to be spent on St. Nicholas's, and whether this will prevent the carrying out of works of a more urgent type or priority elsewhere in the Department of Health?

4. How many mentally retarded patients are recipients of Commonwealth Social Service Department pensions in Victoria?

5. At what centres these patients are situated, how many are at each centre, what total pension is paid, and what amount is paid to each patient?

6. Whether part of the Commonwealth pension is not paid to the patients con­cerned; if so-( a) what is the balance not so paid; and (b) whether this balance has been paid to the individual centres; in which event how much each centre has received, or whether the money has been paid to Consolidated Revenue?

Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of Education) .-These questions ap­peared on yesterday's Notice Paper, but the answers were not then avail­able. They are-

1. The Parliament of the Commonwealth has not yet passed the States Grants (Mental Health Institutions) Bill, and until it is passed and advice received from Common­wealth authorities as to how the Act will be administered, no reliable estimate of the amount which Victoria will receive can be given.

2. Consideration will not be given to the allocation for mental health purposes until details associated with the administration of Commonwealth legislation are known.

3. An amount of £305,000 has been committed for works completed or in progress at St. Nicholas's Hospital. This hospital is regarded as being of a very high priority and, in view of this, some projects of lesser urgency may have to be deferred.

4. 993. 5.

Number I Amount of Total Payable

Name of Centre. Pension to Patient Pensioner Patients. (per week). (per

week).

£ 8. d. £ 8.

Children's Cottages Kew* .. .. 206 5 15 0 2 0

Janefield Colony* 147 5 15 0 2 0 Sunbury Training

Centre* .. 585 5 15 0 2 0 Sandhurst Boys'

Centre 55 5 15 0 5 15 • These institutions have been accepted as

benevolent homes as defined by section 18 of the Social Services Act 1947-1962. and pensions are paid pursuant to the provisions of section 50 of the Social Services Act.

d.

0 0

0

0

6. (a) £3 15s. is regarded as the main­tenance portion of the pension and is not paid to the patient.

(b) The maintenance portion of the pension will be paid into Consolidated Revenue as received. This portion is paid quarterly in arrears, and the first claim amounting to £47,567 has not yet been finalized.

ESTATE AGENTS (AMENDMENT) BILL.

The debate (adjourned from April 28) on the motion of Mr. Rylah (Chief Secretary) for the second reading of this Bill was resumed.

Mr. WILKES (Northcote).-This is a small but none the less important Bill. It proposes to carry out the intention of the amendments to the Estate Agents Act which were con­sidered by Parliament some time ago but which were subsequently found not to provide the legislative power to protect people who had suffered because of the unethical and mislead­ing practices of some estate agents in relation to the sale of small businesses.

That position regarding the sale of small businesses was the subject of a lengthy debate in this House when the original amendments were pro­posed. I do not wish to cover that ground again, except to say that at that time the Opposition was most concerned, as was the Government. The Opposition is still concerned about the improper practices that are taking place. The Statute Law Revision Committee made certain recommendations to the Govern­ment, and these were incorporated in a previous amendment to the principal Act, but because of a legal difficulty it was found not possible to imple­ment the recommendations to the satisfaction of all concerned. This applied particularly in regard to the provision of a statement of account by the vendor to the purchaser of a small business. It was suggested that the statement of account should contain details of the transactions of the business for the preceding three years. That could

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. be done only through the agency of an accountant, provided that there were three clear years during which the vendor was in control of the business prior to the proclamation of the amendment. It is now proposed that the provision of a statement of account in relation to trading in the previous three years must still be a condition of the sale of a small business, but that it shall not neces­sarily relate to three financial years­three full years may cover part of a financial year.

Although doubts have been privately expressed whether the proposed amendment will cover the situation, I believe it will give some added protection and eliminate some of the unethical and misleading statements-in fact, false statements -that have appeared in newspapers regarding small businesses, and state­ments that have been made verbally by a small proportion of the agents in the business. These misleading activities are not general.

Mr. BOLTE.-But they injure the rest of the profession.

Mr. WILKES.-That is so. Reputable associations like the Real Estate and Stock Institute and the Real Estate Agents Association have expressed deep concern and have given their support to the proposed amendment. However, those associa­tions represent only 47 per cent. of the agents, the other 53 per cent. being outside their jurisdiction. Therefore, it is obvious that some­thing must be done whereby the small proportion of the remainder who do indulge in these unethical practices can be brought under legislative control.

The amendment contained in clause 2 proposes an increase in the size of the Estate Agents Committee. The Government considered that, because of the constitution of this com­mittee, Government representatives could be outvoted. I have no objection to this provision. How­ever, I am rather surprised that it has not been stated when the

rules prepared by the Estate Agents Committee will be promul­gated. I have sought this informa­tion on several occasions, and a fortnight ago I again asked the Premier questions relating to this matter. This committee was given power to draw up a set of rules, or what could be better described as a code of ethics to cover the activities of estate agents in Victoria. Most reputable organizations have their own code of ethics which are strictly adhered to, and if any member of the organization contravenes the rules, he is disciplined. The Estate Agents Committee was empowered by the Government to adopt a set of rules to embrace the people who are not members of the two associations I have mentioned. For some reason or other, trouble has been experienced in relation to the rules. The Premier indicated a fortnight ago that the rules were prepared but that there was some legal difficulty which the Parliamentary Draftsman was ex­amining. If these rules are found to be satisfactory and are promul­gated, perhaps it may not be neces­sary to use legislative power. If the Government expedited giving this power to the Estate Agents Com­mittee, together with the fact that the Government representatives can­not be outvoted on the committee, I believe the situation would be well covered. Moreover, some relief would be afforded from the unsatisfactory situation now existing in relation to the sale of small businesses. For the reasons I have stated, the Opposition raises no objection to the Bill.

Mr. WILTSHIRE (Mulgrave).-I should like to offer some comments on the statement made by the hon­orable member for Northcote, that the estate agents on the committee as constituted may outvote the Govern­ment representatives. Of course, that is presupposing that the estate agents who are selected to be members of the committee are biased and will not act in the best interests of the com­munity as a whole. I do not think it is quite fair to put it in that way. Those on the selected panel are reliable

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and ethical people. Whilst I can understand the point of view of the Government in wanting to maintain the casting vote of the chairman, it is a little hard to suggest that the estate agents on the committee are biased.

I recall that in the past nine years the Estate Agents Act has been amended on at least twelve occa~ sions. The present amendments are brought about by a small section of the estate agents acting in an un~ ethical way. It must be realized that each time there is an amend~ ment to the Act it is much harder for reputable estate agents to do their work. People do not realize tha t every time the Act is altered, to discipline the 2 per cent. of estate agents who behave in an un~ ethical way and require to be disci­plined, the remaining 98 per cent. are penalized. The reputable estate agents are being burdened by irk­some details being forced upon them. I believe it will be almost impossible for estate agents to carry out the letter of the law relating to the pro~ vision that, on the sale of a business, a statement of the trading shall be given.

The honorable member for North­cote mentioned the rules for estate agents. The terms "rules" and "code of ethics" may be very high sounding, but the mere fact of bring­ing in a code of ethics does not necessarily mean that the undesir~ able practices about which we have heard will be cleaned up.

Mr. WILKES.-But it will help.

Mr. WIL TSHIRE.-That is so. The Real Estate and Stock Institute has its own code of ethics, and its own way applying discipline to its members. If there is any argument between two members of the Real Estate and Stock Institute, the matter is put before the disputes committee and the deci­sion of that committee is accepted. That system has worked very well. If the proposed code of ethics can be enforced in the same way as are

the rules of the Real Estate and Stock Institute, it will be a step in the right direction. But the enforce­ment of the rules may be difficult. If these rules can be policed satis~ factorily, everyone will benefit.

The restrictions placed on licences over the past few years have been an important factor in putting the profession on a higher plane. I call it a profession, because rules of con· duct have been laid down and an applicant for a licence must have high qualifications. The land boom attracted the wrong type of people to the profession. These people saw the possibilities of high profits and easy returns. However, I believe the restrictions imposed over the years on those entitled to obtain licences have had the desired effect.

By the same token, some of the rules imposed have created difficulties for estate agents. Before rules are passed, consideration should be given to the questions of how they are to be implemented and how much extra work will be involved for estate agents. The selling of small businesses to-day entails considerably more work than it did in the past, but there has been no increase in the commis­sion paid to estate agents. The agent has to bear all of the increased costs. The Sale of Land Act is a typical example of what has happened. I direct attention to those matters to show that whilst I do not disagree with them there is another side to the story. However, I point out that 98 per cent. of the agents are acting ethically and have been inconven­ienced because they have had to employ extra staff. That means that their returns are lower.

The motion was agreed to. The Bill was read a second time

and committed. Clauses 1 and 2 were agreed to. Clause 3 (Statement to be given on

sale of small business).

Mr. GAINEY (Elsternwick).-The noose seems to have been pulled fairly tightly in regard to what agents

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shall or shall not do, but lately I have received several complaints that there is no control over the checking of the stock that is in a shop when it is sold.

Mr. WILKEs.-That is already pro­vided for in the Act.

Mr. GAINEY.-Where is it in the Act? I have been told that shop­keepers have dummy packets on the shelves and that purchasers are in fact paying for stock that does not exist. I do not know whether there is any provision to cover that.

The clause was agreed to. The Bill was reported to the House

without amendment, and the report was adopted.

Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of Education) .-1 move-

That this Bill be now read a third time.

I wish to refer to a matter raised by the honorable member for Elstern­wick. I am not completely familiar with this legislation, but I understand that the matter he refers to is covered by section 19 of the Act. However, I shall discuss it with the responsible Minister who, I have no doubt, will contact the honorable member for Elsternwick.

The motion was agreed to, and the Bill was read a third time.

COMMONWEALTH AID ROADS CONFERENCE.

The debate (adjourned from April 7) was resumed on the motion of Mr. Bolte (Premier and Treasurer)-

That the Ministerial statement relating to the Premiers' conference on Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement be printed,

and on Mr. Stoneham's amendment­ment-

That the following words be added to the question:-

"and this House expresses its utter dissatisfaction with the proposed dis­bursement of Commonwealth aid road funds to Victoria during the next five years because of their inadequacy to finance essential metropolitan and coun­try road works which have been delayed in this State, and urges the Victorian Government to make resolute representa­tions to the Commonwealth Government

for substantial emergency grants to satisfy special needs of high vehicle density in Victoria, as have been pro­vided for Queensland and Western Australia for other special purposes."

Sir HERBERT HYLAND (Gipps-land South) .-First, I wish to thank the Government-I do not often do that, but when it is deserving of it, I do-for delaying this debate to enable me to make my contribution. I was attending the annual con­ference of the Country party at Warrnambool when the debate was resumed previously. However, I wish to point out that whenever the Premier does something worth while he always puts a sting in the tail, so to speak. I was amazed to read in Hansard that when the honorable member for Brunswick East interjected during the debate that no members of the Country party were present, the Premier stated in reply-

I consider that the first duty of any mem­ber of Parliament is to be present in the House when Parliament is sitting.

That was a most unwise statement for the Premier to make, because the Government front bench is fre­quently vacant during debates. Time and again, the Government could not provide a quorum in this House if it was not for the Country party and the Opposition. In previous years, there would have been a terri­fic outcry three or four times a day about such a state of affairs. The Government is in office, and it should govern and keep the House going. I did not appreciate the statement made by the honorable gentleman, and since I have been back from the conference I have been tempted to refer to it on three or four occa­sions.

When he was speaking to the amendment moved by the Leader of the Opposition, the honorable gentleman also stated-

If it was s~ggested that there should be added to the motion a suggestion that this House should condemn the proposed dis­bursement of Commonwealth Aid Roads Funds to Victoria, during the next five years, I would support it to the hilt.

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I believe that we in Victoria are tak­ing this matter lying down. The other States are entitled to what they are getting, and we do not cavil at that. Those States with large areas have to be assisted, but I should like to know whether the money granted to them is really spent on roads. I do not refer in particular to any State, because members of my party are closely associated with all of them. We will certainly be closely connected with Tasmania after the next election in that State.

Mr. CHRISTIE.-That will be a powerful bloc.

Sir HERBERT HYLAND.-For 30 years the Liberal party has been un­able to remove the Labour Govern­ment from office in Tasmania.

The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr. Rafferty).-Order! I ask the hon­orable member to debate the matter before the House.

Sir HERBERT HYLAND.-On Wednesday of this week, I asked the Premier the following question:-

Whether he will outline to Parliament the road plan which he states he has prepared to submit to the coming Canberra con­ference on the Commonwealth aid roads finance?

I knew that a conference had been held, and I wanted to find out just what the Premier's plan was. I thought he might have told us what it was. If he is going to battle to get more money for Victoria, I can assure him that he will have the full support of the Country party, and I am sure that the Labour party will also support him. If he can get more money for roads, whether it be for metropolitan or country roads, I am sure he will get all the support he wants. The Premier's answer was-

The conference to which the honorable member refers was held on 12th March last. The propositions which I put to the conference have already been outlined to Parliament in a statement which I made on 17th March. We can only assume that the Premier did not have a plan aimed at getting Victoria better treatment under the

Commonwealth Aid Roads Act. Frankly, I do not think this State will receive more than it gets now. If the Director of Finance prepared a comprehensive statement covering the past five years, assuming that the percentage increase of the past will continue for the next five years, I think it would be seen that the Commonwealth Government had, so to speak, sold us a pup. Of course, what happened was an election stunt, and I do not make any apology. In the Federal sphere, the Country party is in coalition with the Liberal /party. In the past 40 years, the Liberal party has not been able to obtain a majority there, and has had to combine with the Country party.

All political parties in this State should combine on this issue and put up a worth-while fight. Let the Right Honorable Sir Robert Menzies, the Right Honorable John McEwen, and the Right Honorable Harold Holt and other Victorians in the Federal Parliament realize that although the non-Labour section of voters in Victoria voted solidly for Govern­ment candidates at the last Federal election, they cannot be brushed aside on the question of road works. Every week-end, 10 or 12 deaths occur on the roads in this State, and over long week-ends the toll is even heavier. That means that there is something radically wrong with the roads.

Mr. SCHINTL'ER.-Or the drivers.

Sir HERBERT HYLAND.-Some drivers are nervous individuals, and accidents can be traced to that cause. On country roads where there is a 2-in. or 4-in. shoulder, motorists keep to the centre, and collisions occur. We should get down to earth and devise a worth-while plan. It is of no use saying that a plan will not meet with success; this is a negative approach that does not appeal to me.

Years ago, country municipalities received from the Country Roads Board subsidies on the basis of £7 for £1. The basis is now £3 for £1, and for maintenance in many country

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towns it is £1 for £1. Valuations are high, and when the municipal rate is 4s. 6d. in the £1, the Country Roads Board rate is 6d., the water rate 2s. 3d. and the sewerage rate 2s. lId., a heavy impost is placed on people in receipt of small incomes. The comparative rate in the metropolitan area for sewerage, water and drainage is about 2s. 4d.

In these matters, we should not play politics but should get together and try to achieve something. I do not subscribe to the attitude that nothing can be done. On 11 th September, 1963, I asked the Minister of Public Works-

How much money the Country Roads Board allocated to the metropolitan area for road and bridge works in each of the last five financial years and how much was expended in each of those years?

The answer supplied by the Minister was-

The following amounts were allocated and expended from Country Roads Board funds in the Melbourne metropolitan plan­ning area in the last five financial years:-

Year Allocated Expended (approx.) (approx.)

1958-59 £2,106,000 £1,342,000 1959-60 .. £3,707,000 £1,988,000 1960-61 £5,186,000 £3,020,000 1961-62 £5,667,000 £3,932,000 1962-63 " £5,269,000 £3,~0,000

What has happened to the un­expended funds? I do not know whether the Country Roads Board would be permitted to borrow money through the Loan Council.

Mr. WILcox.-Consideration should be given to that possibility.

Sir HERBERT HYLAND.-Until the year 1933, the Country Roads Board lent money to municipalities. At that time there was an "outer metropolitan" fund and loan money obtained from the Board on long terms was expended on projects such as the Punt-road bridge. Loans for similar purposes were made to the Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works, the Melbourne City Council, and other bodies. Every political party supports the principle of decen­tralization, but some country people

pay rates of 11 s. and 12s. in the £1. My metropolitan rates are Is. lId. and 2s. 4d., a total of 4s. 3d.

A new approach should be made to the subject of road finance. The Government lives from day to day and does not bother about these things. It should confer with the other political parties and get the benefit of their advice. Unless more money becomes available, I do not know what will happen in country districts. The Country Roads Board gives good service, but receives very little money in com­parison with the amount needed. It is severely handicapped by lack of funds.

In the year 1933, eleven country municipalities defaulted in their payments to the Country Roads Board. I was then a member of the Leongatha Shire Council, which in that year paid to the Board only one­half of the due amount. Without being boastful or pompous, I recall that I devised a plan which the Country Roads Board named after me, and it was of great benefit to country and metropolitan muni­cipalities, including the City of Melbourne. As a result, money was spent on the Geelong-road, the Nepean Highway and elsewhere. The various municipalities were relieved of their debts, and started afresh.

I make a plea for some definite action to be taken to enable country municipalities to be assisted. I agree that a certain amount should be spent every year in the metro­politan area. No definite plan for metropolitan roadways exists. The Lord Mayors of the six capital cities have discussed this problem and have declared that it is not their intention to divert expenditure from the country districts; they seek additional money from the Common­wealth Government.

I do not know why the Common­wealth Government, with its over­flowing coffers, cannot increase its grant to Victoria. New South Wales and the other States can look

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after themselves. Victoria should receive a grant of an amount at least equal to the sum paid by motor­ists in this State in excise on petrol.

Mr. WILKES (Northcote).-After the Premier made his Ministerial statement, the Leader of the Opposi­tion moved an amendment, and to bring members of the House back to the actual situation, I shall read it. The amendment is in the follow­ing terms:-

That the following words be added to the question :-" and that this House expresses its utter dissatisfaction with the proposed disbursement of Commonwealth Aid Road Funds to Victoria during the next five years because of their inadequacy to finance essential metropolitan and country road works which have been de­layed in this State, and urges the Vic­torian Government to make resolute rep­resentations to the Commonwealth Government for substantial emergency grants to satisfy special needs of high vehicle density in Victoria, as have been provided for Queensland and Western Aus­tralia for other special purposes."

The intention of the amendment is modest. Because of the high vehicle density in Victoria, special circum­stances exist here which do not exist to the same degree in the States which have benefited most by the new formula under the Common­wealth Aid Roads Act.

The Leader of the Opposition asks the Premier to make further repre­sentations to the Federal Govern­ment with a view to having more money made available for essential road works in metropolitan and country areas. My Leader does not suggest that less money should be made available to the country area; in fact, he makes the point that, if it is possible, more money should be spent in both country and metro­politan areas.

Basically, there is the same need for assistance in the construction of country roads as there is for metro­politan roads. Because of this, no satisfaction can be derived from the provision of assistance to one as against the other. The Leader of the Country party has indicated the particular problems that per-

tain with respect to roads in country areas. The Opposition also points out the particular problems that exist in relation to roads in metropolitan areas. At this point, I desire to quote from a press release in respect of the Premiers' conference, on 12th March, 1964, at which a statement was made by the Federal Treasurer. the Right Honorable Harold Holt, M.P. Mr. Holt, who conducted the Commonwealth Aid Roads Confer­ence on behalf of the Commonwealth, had this to say-

So far as we are concerned the planning, programming, design and construction of roads in the States and their subsequent repair and maintenance should remain the responsibility of the States. The only ex­ception to this might be in particular cases where specific road projects are made the subject of joint Commonwealth/State undertakings where the Commonwealth contributes part or the whole of the finance necessary. But we would regard such projects as exceptions rather' than the general rule. In other words, it is not prepared to shoulder any responsibility, except in very exceptional circumstances. The quotation continues-

We envisage that the Commonwealth will . continue to make grants to the States for

expenditure on road works in general and that the States will continue to be at liberty, as they have always been, to initiate good projects or programmes for financial assistance by the Commonwealth. This has been done. When the Pre­mier goes to Canberra, he outlines the needs of this State, but the Federal Treasurer says, "We will allow the status quo to continue. You can tell us what you think should be done, but we are not prepared' to accept any responsibility for it. You must agree to the formula. If you do not agree, it will make no difference. You will accept it, or else!" The Federal Treasurer went on to say-=-

As we see the matter, the need for some form of Commonwealth roads authority arises elsewhere. The Commonwealth has, of course, long acknowledged a financial responsibility for the improvement of roads .. The system of Federal aid for roads goes back 40 years.

Necessarily, and as part of its over-all responsibility for the welfare and progress of the Australian economy, the Common­wealth has a great interest in promoting the

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development of an adequate road system. Transportation costs make up a large part of total production costs and road trans­portation now represents the largest element in land transportation of goods and people. The Commonwealth is aware of all this. It says that, for a period of over 40 years, it has taken a direct interest in the problem of roads. But, although it renders lip service to a press statement by the Federal Trea­surer, it informs the Premier of Victoria that the formula will be basically the same as it was for the preceding five years.

Mr. MEAGHER.-It will be exactly the same.

Mr. WILKES.-That is so. Contrary to what the Premier likes to make out to the people of Victoria, -namely, that this State is getting a fair distribution under the formula, -the position is that this State is deriving very little more than it got over the past five years. As the relevant table did not appear in the statement made by the Premier, I shall quote from it-

The Commonwealth Government, follow­ing discussion with the State Premiers on 12th March, 1964, has announced that the new Commonwealth Aid Roads legislation covering the five-year period from 1st July, 1964, will provide for-

(1) A basic grant of £330,000,000 over the five years (compared with £220,000,000 in 1959-64);

(2) a matching grant of £45,000,000 over the five years ( compared with £30,000,000 in 1959-64);

(3) the formula for distribution be­tween the States to remain unchanged;

(4) 40 per cent. of the grant to be expended on unclassified rural roads to be continued.

I want to make it clear that we raise no objection to this. The quotation proceeds-

This means so far as rural roads are concerned that £150,000,000 will be avail­able as compared with £100,000,000 for the five years to 1964-an increase of £50,000,000.

The following table will show how the States will fare under the new legislation as compared with that for 1959-64:-

Looking at the matter on a broad basis, it would appear that the Com­monwealth is beneficent in its

financial outlook towards the road problem throughout the Common­wealth of Australia. But, when the position is viewed on a State basis, it can readily be seen that, during the period from 1959 to 1964 the basic grant to Victoria was £44,100,000 which, together with the matching grant of £6,000,000 makes a total of £50,100,000. For rural roads, 40 per cent. of that grant would be equal to £20,100,000 and, as against that, there has been only a miserly increase. Notwithstanding the huge vehicle density, which is increasing annually in the metropolis as well as in the country areas, the new formula will yield to Victoria a basic grant of £64,900,000 over a period of five years from 1964 to 1969, and a matching grant of £8,900,000, making a total of £73,800,000. The allocation for rural roads will be £29,500,000.

As the Minister said, basically, there is very little difference in terms of additional assistance, as compared with what was made available during the preceding five years. The attitude of the Commonwealth and the Federal Treasurer is, cc We are not greatly concerned about the demands of the States for finance in respect of this very important facet of road construction and road maintenance; you will accept this basis, whether you like it or not. You will not get any more."

Astronomical sums of money are being raised by the Commonwealth through this form of income taxation, and there is a necessity for the relevant figures to be placed on record in the Victorian Parliament. For the year ended 30th June, 1962, excise duty on motor spirit amounted to £56,700,000; sales tax on passenger vehicles was £42,700,000; sales tax on commercial vehicles and all spare parts was £16,500,000; customs duty on motor spirit was £6,900,000; customs duty on imported vehicles and parts was £6,400,000; customs duty and excise on automotive diesel fuel was £2,400,000; making a total revenue of £131,600,000. During the

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same period, the total revenue derived by all the States from motor vehicles was £52,800,000, making a combined Federal and State revenue of £184,400,000, out of which sum the total expenditure by the Common­wealth on roads amounted to only £96,800,000. Of this sum, the total Commonwealth aid to the States was only £52,600,000. The House will readily appreciate that there is a dis­tinct diminution of funds being made available to the States from this enormous field of taxation by the Commonwealth. The formula is com­pletely unfair, and it is loaded against the State of Victoria.

To take the matter a step further, the number of motor vehicles regis­tered in Victoria as at 31st December, 1962, was 941,812, which represented 29.7 per cent. of the Australian total. It also represented one vehicle for every 3.2 persons in Victoria. That compares more than favourably with any other State in the Commonwealth in respect of vehicle to population density, and it lends additional weight to the argument that Victoria should be treated much more fairly than it is being treated under the agreement that has just been reached in Canberra.

Mr. WHEELER.-Victoria is a very prosperous State.

Mr. WILKES.-This relationship does not reflect upon prosperity as much as it does upon vehicle density.

Mr. WILCOX.-Do not the two go together?

Mr. WILKES.-There could be some relationship between prosperity and vehicle density. The amount made available to the States by the Commonwealth is distributed in this manner: Five per cent. of the total allocation goes to Tasmania, and the balance is divided between the other five States on the basis of one-third according to population-that is where the injustice of the formula is amplified-one-third according to area, and one-third according to the number of motor vehicles registered.

In spite of that, Victoria must content itself, as the Premier pointed out, with very little more than he was able to get on the previous occasion when he visited Canberra. Basically, the problems of the metropolis and country areas are the same, but they are amplified in the metropolitan area because of the vehicle density in the metropolis and the greater us·e that is made of classified and unclassified roads in the metropolis.

It is true that some attempt has been made by the Government of Vic­toria, through the Country Roads Board, to assist municipalities in re­spect of certain classified roads. This assistance has gone some of the way toward relieving the financial obliga­tions of municipalities, but it is a small contribution in comparison with the large expenditures that are ex­pected from municipalities for the maintenance of reasonable road sur­faces throughout their areas. From time to time, the House has been informed that the metropolitan area could be defined as being different from the country area. Country dwellers pass through the inner suburbs of Melbourne and use metro­politan roads, and there is no relation­ship between the financing and main­taining of those roads as compared with country roads, by virtue of the fact that many metropolitan road users are not ratepayers in the metro­polis. This imposes a great burden on the ratepayers in inner suburban municipalities, particularly when there are in their districts arterial roads that do not qualify under the Act for Country Roads Board assist­ance in respect of their maintenance or reconstruction. The honorable member for Ivanhoe and I know that this situation exists in Heidelberg­road, which is an arterial road. The Northcote City Council will be in­volved in the expenditure of £100,000. Of course, it will receive an appreci­able reimbursement from the Country Roads Board; nevertheless, less mone'y will be available to spend in other parts of the city.

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This is a general problem which exists throughout the municipalities of Melbourne; it is not limited to the inner suburban area. With rapid growth in the outer areas, there are problems there, too. The difficulties will be accentuated in the outer areas unless there is a direct recognition of the problem through some Common­wealth aid authority, which will ex­amine the position in more detailed fashion than is done under the formula. The formula does not take into consideration the density of inner areas. It takes cognizance of car density and population density over the whole State. It does not deal with specific problems in the coun­try or the metropolis. It does not provide all the funds which are ob­viously required. Until that money is found, the metropolitan roads we are always complaining about will be­come more and more a responsibility of the present or some future Vic­torian Government.

Mr. WHEELER.-Metropolitan roads are a bigger problem than country roads to-day.

Mr. WILKES.-That is so, because of the cost of constructing and main­taining them. While there may be one major road through a country municipality, in the metropolitan area there may be four or five run­ning in all directions through one municipality. It is impossible for the ratepayers, the local taxpayers, to finance this. The conditions of some roads in both the inner and the outer metropolitan areas of Melbourne are far worse than many roads in the country. I hope the Government will consider making more Country Roads Board money available to suburban municipalities. But this is a national problem, and the Commonwealth Government, which collects huge amounts from those who use the roads-they and the ratepayers pay dearly-should ensure that a good road system is provided.

The figures for Australia as a whole reveal that there are' relatively few miles of bituminized roads compared

with dirt surfaced roads. Of course, that applies in some suburbs, too. The situation will deteriorate if something is not done. It should be appreciated that local government is completely responsible for the cost of construct­ing and maintaining 70 per cent. of all roads in the Commonwealth. Under the formula, the Commonwealth ac­cepts responsibility for only 30 per cent. of the roads. We can take it that there is no possibility of the formula being changed. Apparently we are saddled with it until 1969. The question is whether the Govern­ment of the day can convince the Federal Treasurer that additional grants are necessary for Victoria be­cause, otherwise, an intolerable posi­tion will exist. The Federal Treasurer should not need convincing, as he is a Victorian, of the importance of the matter to this State.

I think the Premier is aware that it has been suggested by the local government authorities of the nation that the Commonwealth Government should create a local ser­vices and amenities fund. On the basis of the receipts from income tax in the years 1962-63, if 1 per cent. of the total was set aside in this fund, the sum of £8,100,000 could be allo­cated to the States. That is not a huge amount, but if it were distri­buted, not on the present formula, but on a more equitable basis, Vic­toria would have some additional money for road purposes.

The Australian Council of Local Government Associations is advanc­ing this theory. As my Leader's amendment proposed, the Govern­ment should make further represen­ta tions to the Commonwealth for additional road moneys to be made available to Victoria. Curiously enough, Victoria is not represented or. the Australian Council of Local Government Associations. I do not know why that is so. This very active organization has presented a good case to the Federal Treasurer but without avail. Its suggestions were not made particularly in the in­terests of Victoria, but if they are

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successful at least some additional money will become available. We suggest that the Victorian Govern­ment should make a similar approach.

Mr. MEAGHER.-Is not that a de­cision for the Municipal Association?

Mr. WILKES.-It is. The Muni­cipal Association of Victoria has placed its views before the Govern­ment on numerous occasions. I am sure the association would support representations by the Premier to the Commonwealth. The Opposition ex­presses disappointment at the results of the Premier's visit to Canberra. We shared the honorable gentleman's disappointment at the allocation to Victoria and the treatment of our roads problem in Canberra. We sug­gest that the Premier should make further representations, and seek the support of responsible bodies throughout the State to induce the Federal Government to realize our problems, as it is the tax gathering authority. Huge revenue is received by the Commonwealth Government, particularly from Victoria. This State is entitled to additional assis­tance to that contained in the formula. I commend the amendment to the House.

Mr. WILCOX (Camberwell).-I am interested in the views of all honor­able members on this question. I appreciate the moderate way in which the honorable member for Northcote, and in particular the Leader of the Country party, made their submissions to the House. There is much common ground be­tween all parties on the great prob­lem of finance for our roads. Whilst no one can claim to have the solu­tion, at least we are all thinking about the matter. Together with the Government, I share disappointment at the results of the Canberra con­ference. It is clear that the Govern­ment is concerned with the problem; otherwise the procedure of making a Ministerial statement to the House would not have been adopted. As it was not necessary for this to be done, it indicates the importance with which the Government views the problem.

In view of the Premier's state­ment, I do not think the amendment would help very much. It only high­lights the problem. The Premier has had a good deal of experience with Canberra, and over the years he has gone into all these matters. The for­mula has been set for another five years, and on that score there is no hope whatever. I think the honor­able member for Northcote has ad­mitted that. But this is not good enough; every avenue must be ex­plored. The Premier has made it clear that we cannot get more money from Canberra. He said-

Nevertheless it is apparent that there is not much use in applying for something that one has no hope whatever of obtain­ing.

With respect, I think that disposes of the Opposition's amendment.

Mr. WHITING.-Is it not a de­featist attitude?

Mr. WILCOX.-I am afraid noth­ing can be done about the five-year plan, as the agreement has been made.

Mr. MANSON.-It was not an agreement.

Mr. WILCOX.-Whether or not it is an agreement, it is with us. The Premier said that from the start. Whether we like it or not, it is an agreement which determines the amount of road money to be made available to the State for the next five years.

Mr. MUTToN.-A change of Government and a change of policy are needed.

Mr. WILCOX.-It would make no difference to, the formula if there was a change of Government in Victoria, nor would there be any difference if a change occurred in Canberra. The procedure for the next five years has been laid down. If the honor­able member, with all his experience, thinks that any change of Govern­ment in Canberra will alter the five­year agreement, I am surprised at him. It is important that members

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of all parties should recognize the problem and be prepared to do some­thing about it.

On about the only occasion durmg his speech when he was not moderate in his statements, the Leader of the Country party stated that some Government members were not interested in the Country Roads Board. That was an unfor­tunate statement, because Govern­ment members are vitally interested· in the Board, the money which is available to it, and what happens to the money when the Board receives it. It has been stated that a de­featist attitude has been adopted, but unfortunately we are saddled with the agreement, and I admit that I have a defeatist attitude so far as changing the agreement during the next five years is concerned, because I do not think it can be done. However, I do not adopt a defeatist attitude to the whole question of road finance. I believe we must find some avenues of finance which will enable us to deal with the problem.

I should like to make it abundantly clear that in my remarks I have no desire to distinguish between the metropolitan and country areas of the State. This is a common prob­lem throughout Victoria. From daily experience, I know that certain metropolitan roads are badly in need of repair, which would necessitate money being spent on them; some of the roads in question are in a shock­ing condition. I also know, from frequent experiences during the year, that many country roads are in the same unsatisfactory con­dition. People from the city, who travel to the country in motor cars, require good roads, and country motorists depend just as much on good roads right into the city, not only for themselves, but also for their produce, most of which must finally come into the metropolitan area and be handled in some way on the roads.

It is clear that the number of vehicles on our roads is increasing at a fast rate, and I am indebted to

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my colleague, the honorable member for Prahran, who handed me an Institute of Public Affairs pamphlet, which highlights this aspect. According to the information supplied in the pamphlet, it is antici­pated that, in 1974, there will be about 6,000,000 vehicles in Victoria, whereas to-day there are only about 3,500,000. As an example of the de­velopment which has occurred, the pamphlet states that three times as many motor cars now travel to and from our main capital cities as com­pared with the situation ten years ago.

I am pleased that the Minister of Transport is present in the Chamber because the pamphlet further em­phasizes that, despite the growth in road transport, fewer people are travelling on our trains and trams. That is a pity. In the remarks which I make concerning the road, problem, I do not overlook the possibility of money being properly spent on the railways, because this would tremendously aid the road problem. Certainly, more

'money would be required in this respect, but that is part of the problem. It is world experience­this applies also ,in Victoria and more particularly in Melbourne-that in any modern metropolis the rail­ways are relied upon as a primary means of moving people on the sur­face. We, in Melbourne, cannot turn our faces against this fact. If addi­tional money was available to the railways so that they could improve their services, some of the strain would be taken off the roads. I do not think freeways and over-passes will provide a complete solution to the problem; they will provide part of the answer, but the problem must also be tackled by proper attention being given to the railways.

As I have stated on previous occa­sions in this House, whenever people speak about freeways and over­passes, everyone says, " That is progress; that is modern," but when tbe railways are mentioned, the people say, "That is old hat." It is a pity that this attitude should be

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adopted because, in overseas countries, wherever there are under­ground railway systems, the authorities are busy extending them.

Mr. MUTTON.-You should not forget that in five years' time there could be changes of Governments in all the States. If this policy con­tinues, the views of the people will be stifled.

The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr. Rafferty).- Order! I ask the honor­able member for Coburg to cease interjecting.

Mr. MUTToN.-There could be a change of Government and a change of policy during the next five years.

Mr. WILCOX.-In fairness to the honorable member for Coburg, and out of respect to his service in this Parliament, I shall not bother to get into holts with him. The Leader of the Country party, in referring to the honorable member, said that after all his efforts over a long period, he is still trying to have Pentridge Gaol moved to some other location. I wish him luck in that regard.

Mr. MUTToN.-This agreement means that the voices of the people of Australia will be stifled on the question for the next five years.

Mr. WILCOX.-I am delighted that, following his absence of some months, the honorable member for Coburg should be back to his old form. So far as I am concerned, there is no distinction between metropolitan and country areas on the need for additional money for roads. However, because of the growth of the metropolitan area, the problem here has become bigger at a faster rate than in the country.

A number of solutions to the problem have been suggested, in­cluded in which was the imposition of a 3d. per gallon tax on petrol, but this suggestion did not get very far. We must continue to search for some means of overcoming the problem. I do not profess to have an answer, or even a part answer, to the problem, but we must start thinking whether

the main roads of Victoria should be planned and constructed by just one authority. This is happening to some extent, with· the Country Roads Board now making some contribution in the metropolitan area. I do not mind what the authority is called-it could be the Country Roads Board or the "Main Roads Board," as it is known in other States-but I believe this authority, with its long history and experience, should have the re­sponsibility for road construction throughout the State. It would be un­fortunate if the Board of Works tried to compete with the Country Roads Board as the constructing authority. I appreciate, as my colleague, the hon­orable member for Essendon, reminds me, that the Board of Works, is already a road-constructing authority, but it would be a pity if its powers were increased and it was permitted to grow as a road-constructing authority in opposition to the Country Roads Board.

So far as finance is concerned, it is clear that Victoria cannot expect to obtain a great deal of additional assistance during the next five years. I think there is much to be said for the Government of Victoria consider­ing whether the Country Roads Board should raise additional loan money. I appreciate that such loan raisings are governed by a gentlemen's agreement that public loan money raising shall be controlled in Australia by the Loan Council. The Loan Council stipulates how much each authority or Govern­ment can raise in anyone year. As honorable members know, when this agreement was entered into, it did not extend to the operations of semi­government authorities. I should think the Country Roads Board, being a semi-government authority, would not be included in the formal agree­ment, which provides that we will follow the Loan Council's directions.

It is well known that, outside the Commonwealth Government, the State Electricity Commission is the biggest borrower in Australia. It is

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clear that the people of Victoria sup­port the Commission strongly in this respect. I believe that they-this cer­tainly applies to residents of the metropolitan .area-would support the Country Roads Board if it sought to raise additional funds, by means of loans, for road purposes. I appreciate that questions will be asked about interest payments and so on, but we have in our Treasury, people who are capable of providing solutions to these problems.

Mr. TAYLoR.-The Loan Council is the biggest hurdle.

Mr. WILCOX.-That is so, and this could be an opportunity of striking at the Loan Council direction. This is a problem which requires a great deal of consideration. Until something strenuous is done to overcome the stranglehold which Canberra exer­cises in financial matters, we have no hope of doing anything about improv­ing the road situation in Victoria. By using the procedure of a Ministerial statement to enable the matter to be debated, the Government has shown that it is interested in this problem and that it recognizes that a problem exists. I am indebted to the mem­bers of all other parties who have submitted their views on the ques­tion.

On the motion of Mr. PORTER (Minister for Local Government), the debate was adjourned until later this day.

The sitting was suspended at 1 p.m. until 3.35 p.m.

RETIREMENT .OF MEMBERS. ApPRECIATION OF SERVICES.

Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea­surer) .-Three members of this House will retire when Parliament is prorogued, and I desire to place on record appreciation of the services they have rendered over many years. I refer to the honorable member for Bendigo, the Honorable L. W. Galvin; the honorable member for Rodney, the Honorable R. K. Brose; and the honorable member for Ballaarat

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South, Mr. G. L. Scott. For the record, I shall give a short resume of their careers.

The Honorable Leslie William Galvin was first elected to the Legis­lative Assembly at a by-election on 26th May, 1945 for the electoral district of Bendigo, which seat he retained until the 28th May, 1955. Mr. Galvin was re-elected on the 31st May, 1958 and has held this seat from that date. On two occasions he was re-elected unopposed. He was Chief Secretary from 17th December, 1952 to 7th June, 1955; President of the Board of Land and Works, Commis­sioner of Crown Lands and Survey, and Minister of Water Supply from 21st November, 1945 to 20th Novem­ber, 1947; Deputy Leader of the Labour party from 1947 to 1955; a member of the House Committee

. from 1949 to 1952; a member of the Select Committee on Egg and Egg Pulp Marketing in 1951; a member of the Select Committee on McPher­son's Limited Pension Fund in 1950; a member of the Forestry Pulp and Paper Company's Afforestation Con­tracts Committee from 1947 to 1948; and a member of the Distribution of Population Committee from 1959 to 1962.

It is a coincidence that the three retiring members, all of whom are relinquishing Parliamentary service for health reasons, served as members of the Distribution of Population Committee. They were very close personal friends, and all were held in the highest regard.

The Honorable Richard Keats Brose became a member of this Parliament before Mr. Galvin, having been first elected to the Legislative Assembly at a by-election, on 10th June, 1944, for the electoral district of Rodney, which seat he has retained. Mr. Brose was Minister of Water Supply and Conservation from 28th June, 1950 to 28th October, 1952, and from 31st October, 1952 to 17th December, 1952; Temporary Chairman of Com­mittees from 1945 to 1950, and from

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1960 to 1964; a member of the Sub­ordinate Legislation Committee from 1955 to 1964; a m·ember of the Printing Committee from 1955 to 1964; a member of the Distribution of Population Committee from 1960 to 1962; and a member of the Stand­ing Orders Committee from 1961 to 1964.

Mr. Gordon Lincoln Scott was elected to the Legislative Assembly for the electoral district of Ballaarat South in 1955, and has retained the seat ever since. He was a member of the Distribution of Population Committee from 1959 to 1961.

It is regrettable that these three very worthy members should be forced to retire from political life for the same reason. It has been a source of actual worry to those of us who have known and liked Mr. Galvin so well for so long, to see that he could not carryon his duties as he would like. His ill health forced him to the conclusion that he had to make way, and in this he acted gener­ously and graciously, because most members are very reluctant to leave this place. I pay tribute to Bill Galvin even in the final decision tha.t he made, which was for the good of himself, his wife, and his family.

Although our political views were opposed, and on occasions we had some tough fights, on no occasion was there rancour. Mr. Galvin was probably my biggest rival in this House, because he had been Minister of Water Supply and I subsequently held that portfolio, so it was natural that we should have much to say to each other in debate. However, I can assure the House that whenever we had a heated debate we soon cooled down together. Bill Galvin and I have always been good friends, as he was a good friend with everybody else.

I had the good fortune-or perhaps the mIsfortune-in 1952 to hand over to the Honorable Dick Brose the portfolio of Water Supply. Mr. Brose was a member when

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I first entered Parliament, al­though he had not been a member very long. A large number of new members were elected at that time, and many changes have taken place in recent years. I digress to refer to the life of a Parliamentarian. At present, the "father of the House" is Sir Herbert Hyland, who has been a member since 1929. The next member in order of seniority is the honorable member for Coburg, who was elected in 1940. He is followed by Mr. Stoneham, Leader of the Opposition, who was elected in 1942 and is now third in line. Then comes Mr. Brose, who was elected in 1944, and Mr. Moss who was elected in 1945, followed by Mr. Mitchell, sixth in line, who became a member of this House at a by­election held just prior to a general election in 1947. As a matter of fact, by taking a cantinuous term, I wauld be next in years of seniority. So', in a matter af sixteen ar seven­~een years, there have been so many retirements that only six members af this Chamber precede me, and, if I survive the wrath of the electars at the farthcaming elections, I could be fifth or sixth in line.

I think it is gaod to remind our­selves that, far many and varied rea sans, there is, perhaps, a grave wastage fram this Parliament, mare particularly as a result af death. In recent years, several members have either died ar been forced into retire­ment because af ill health. There shauld be a praper realizatian of the fact that political life can be most exacting. I am sure that members af the general public dO' not realize that that is so.

Mr. SCHINTLER.-Not until after one is dead.

Mr. BOLTE.-I appreciate that in­terjectian, which is perfectly true. So', I say af the three gentlemen can­cerned that we regret their having been forced intO' the decisian they have made to vacate Parliamentary life. Recently I saw Gordan Scott, and I regret having to repart that he is a very sick man. Mr. Brose came

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to the same conclusion as did Mr. Galvin that, for the sake of his family and his health, he should re­tire from politics and make room for someone else. I have little more to say on this matter, but I feel that what I have' stated should be sub­mitted to the House in the form of a motion. Accordingly, I move-

That this House records its appreciation of the valuable services rendered to the Parliament and people of Victoria by the Honorable Richard Keats Brose, the Hon­orable Leslie William Galvin, and Gordon Lincoln Scott, Esquire, during their lengthy terms as members of this House, and wishes them many years of active and productive life.

It is most unusual for a motion of this character to be submitted at this par­ticular point of time. In the normal course of events, remarks such as I have made would be voiced upon the submission of the motion, "That the House do now adjourn." However,. with another place in operation, one never knows when this House will adjourn, and so I thought it would be much better to discuss the matter now, when there is a fairly generous sprinkling of members present, rather than to leave it until many members have departed for their homes. Al­though I cannot truthfully say that it affords me pleasure to submit this motion to the House, I can honestly state that it is pleasurable to know that the three political parties at least join in recognizing the services ren­dered to Parliament and to the people of this State by a member of each of those parties.

Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the Opposition) .-It is a very fine thing for the Premier to submit this motion and to speak as he has done in tribute to members of other parties as well as a member of his own party. I wish to associate myself fully with what the honorable gentleman has said. Until he referred to the change of membership that has taken place over the past sixteen or seventeen years, I did not realize that the change had been so great. There is no doubt that the stresses and strains of public life are far greater than are generally realized, and that members

of Parliament are not given proper credit for the arduous character of: their duties. The question of ill health is very prominent in these farewell messages that we are ex­pressing to-day.

I endorse the sentiments ex­pressed by the Premier to the effect that the demands upon mem­bers of Parliament should be recog­nized by members of the community at large. We on this, the Opposition, side of the House' deeply regret the fact that "Bill" Galvin is re­tiring from Parliamentary life be­cause of ill health. I have been asso­ciated with him for a very long period, going back before either of us was a member of Parliament, and everyone here will readily agree, I am sure, that Mr. Galvin has been an outstanding political figure. With­in the Labour movement, he has been held in the very highest esteem, and we are particularly proud of his record in Parliament. I call to mind his Ministerial efforts in relation to soldier settlement, workers compen­sation, child welfare, water supply and even liquor licensing reform. In addition, he served for a period as Acting Premier of this State. We trust that, along with Mr. Brose and Mr. Scott, Mr. Galvin will be able to enjoy many happy years of retire­ment.

I have been closely associated with Mr. Brose in many respects, having served with him on the same Parlia­mentary committee. Moreover, we were both formerly Ministers of Water Supply. Mr. Brose is a man of whom the Country party has every cause to be proud, just as we have cause to be proud of Mr. Galvin. Al­though Mr. Scott did not enjoy the distinction of serving in a Ministerial capacity, he nevertheless proved himself to be a very energetic and popular figure in Parliament, and a man whom everybody liked. We shall miss him, just as we shall miss Mr. Brose and Mr. Galvin. I think it was a very fine gesture on the part of the Premier to submit his motion at this stage rather than to

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leave it to the making of a few lauda­tory remarks on a motion for the ad­journment of the House. His action has created a precedent which could well be followed in' the future if circumstances warrant it. ' The 'cir­cumstances certainly warrant it in this instance, because of the very fine services that have been rendered to Parliament and the people of Vic­toria by the honorable members con­cerned.

Sir HERBERT HYLAND (Leader of the Country party) .-On behalf of my party and myself, I join with the Premier and the Leader of the Oppo­sition in paying tribute to three very fine members of this House who, on account of ill health, have been forced to retire from Parliament. Furthermore~ I join with the Leader of the Opposition in expressing thanks to the Premier for having sub­mitted his motion at this particular time. When eulogistic remarks con­cerning members are made at the end of a Parliamentary sitting, every­thing is rushed, and full con­sideration is not given to paying proper tribute to the members con­cerned for the valuable services they have rendered. I knew the' three members particularly well; and I was a member of this House when they were elected to Parliament. Taking them in alphabetical order, Mr. Brose has always, like the other two, been a thorough gentleman. He had his own ideas on certain matters, and he did not hesitate to express them. He would not agree with anyone for the sake of agreement. If he thought

'something was wrong, he would say so. Many members will not do that; they will get around the difficulty in some way or other without commit­ting themselves.

Mr. Brose was highly respected by all. One of the reasons for his re­tirement can be traced back to the first world war, when he had a rather tough time; he was gassed, and the result of that experience has played up with him all through. Mr. Brose took the view that he was not properly doing his job in Parliament, and that he ought to retire. I told

him that, after all the years he had been a member, no one would object to his having a few months of peace and quietness before finally retiring from politics. I have the greatest respect for him. He .has no family as such; there is only his wife and himself. I am pleased to know that they are both to take a trip after the forthcoming elections. Mr. Brose is so keenly interested in the elections that he will not go away until he has learned of the decision of the electors.

With respect to Mr. Galvin, we always refer to him affectionately as "Bill," and that is as it should be, because, it is indicative of the com­radeship that exists between mem­bers of the various political parties. Mr. Galvin fought like fury during election campaigns" but betwe'en times he exhibited the utmost friend­liness. One of the best tributes I can pay to Mr. Galvin is to relate to the House that when, as Chief Secretary in a former Labour Government, he visited the electorate of another honorable mem­ber, he would go out of his way to tell the people in that electorate how fortunate they were to have the local member as their Parliamentary repre­sentative, irrespective of whether the member concerned belonged to his own political party or not. I had an experience of that character, and I thoroughly appreciated it. Nothing finer could be expected of any mem­ber than an approach such as that which was adopted by Mr. Galvin. It showed that, although he was capable of fighting strenuously during an elec­tion campaign, in between times he could forget political differences and hold out the hand of friendship to his political opponents.

I sincerely regret that Mr. Galvin suffered a serious accident some time ago, because I feel that it had a very detrimental effect on his health. He is still not an bId man, and, but for that accident, he could . well have carried on here, doing a good job for his party and for Parliament. I wish him, as well as Mr. Brose and

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Mr. Scott everything of the best for the future. May they be completely restored to full health and vigour. I know what it means to undergo operations and suffer illnesses, and I also appreciate the value of good health. I feel certain that, when the members concerned have completely dissociated themselves from the poli­tical arena, their state of health will improve. I recall the case of one man who retired from politics on account of ill health. After about three months of retirement, he said, " I was a damn fool to retire; I am in the pink of condition." The difficulty was that, in the meantime, someone had grabbed his seat. However, to Leslie William Galvin, I do pay tribute, because he is a fine man in every way. He has a wonderful wife who has helped him in his Par­liamentary activities, as is the case with Mr. Brose. That means a great deal to any politician.

It is extremely bad luck that " Scottie," as we call Mr. Gordon Scott, has had to retire from political life because of failing health. He was always ready for a joke and a scrap whenever he entered the Chamber. It is sad to see such an extremely fine man stricken down. My contribution to this discussion is not made with the object of patting these three men on the back on their retirement from politics. I honestly believe every word of what I have said concerning them.

I trust that Mr. Scott will regain his normal health and that he, Mr. Galvin and Mr. Brose will enjoy life for many years to come. I wish those honorable members and their families, the best of good luck for the future. I am sure that the Premier and all honorable members, irrespective of who will be in the "box seat" after the election, will be glad to help these men and their families in any way possible because of the comradeship that has existed between us over the years.

The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr. Rafferty).-Before I put the motion, on behalf of Mr. Speaker and myself

I should like to support the compli­mentary remarks that have been made concerning the three honorable members who are retiring from the House. I think those of us who entered Parliament more recently-I believe I am speaking particularly for the back-benchers-will remember Mr. Galvin and Mr. Brose for their kindly attitude towards all new members. We know that when we first entered this arena we were fairly green and found that there was a great deal to learn. It is of consider­able comfort to all new members to find that members with long Parlia­mentary experience are prepared to extend to them the friendship and guidance that are so necessary in this institution.

For my part-I believe my experi­ence is shared by other honorable members-Mr. Galvin was always ready and keen to assist in whatever way he could. I also found that he was prepared always to assist me in the duties I had to perform in the chair. Mr. Brose did likewise. I had the good fortune to work with Mr. Brose on the Subordinate Legislation Committee when it was first formed. I believe a good deal of credit for the early formation and success of that committee must go to Mr. Brose, whose experience was undeniably valuable in assisting us to formulate a successful pattern of operation.

Mr. Scott entered Parliament at the same time as I and many other honor­able members, and I think the nicest thought we have about him is the great friendliness he has displayed to each and everyone of us. We all have a great and lasting feeling of friendship towards the three retiring honorable members. I believe it is the wish of all members of this Parlia­ment to record our best wishes to these gentlemen for improved health following their divesting themselves of their Parliamentary duties, and to express the hope that, for many years to come, they will lead happy and successful lives.

The motion was agreed to. The sitting was suspended at 4.5

p.m. until 9.23 p.m.

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NATIONAL PARKS BILL. This Bill was returned from the

Council with a message relating to an amendment.

Mr. BLOOMFIELD (Minister of Education) .-The amendment made by the Council was to omit sub­clause (2) of clause 4 and insert the following sub-clause:-

(2) If the Authority permits a cairn to be erected the Authority shall be responsible for th~ rel?air and proper maintenance of the saId calm and surroundings. The amendment is self-explanatory. The ~inister of State Development has Informed me that, following correspondence with the Commando Association, the sub-clause as it appeared in the Bill originally was prepared in accordance with the wishes of the association. Apparently, the Government and the Opposition were in agreement with that provision until the Country party raised difficulties. As it is not practic~ble to have the Bill passed otherWIse, the Government is pre­pared to accept the amendment. Therefore, I move-

That the amendment be agreed to. Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the

Opposition) .-The Opposition is in agreement with the amendment.

The motion was agreed to.

STANDARDIZATION AND MARKING OF PACKAGED GOODS.

REPORT OF BOARD OF INQUIRY.

Mr. RYLAH (Chief Secretary).­By leave, I move-. That the report .of ~e Board of Inquiry mto the standardIzatIon and marking of packaged goods laid before this House on 28th April this year be printed.

The motion was agreed to.

ADJOURNMENT. END OF SESSION-REPLY TO QUESTION

ON NOTICE.

Mr. BOLT~ (Premier and Trea-surer) .-1 move- .

That the House, at its rising, adjourn until a day and hour to be fixed by Mr. Speaker or, if Mr. Speaker is unable to act on ~ccount of illness. or other ~ause, by the ChaIrman of CommIttees, whIch time of -meeting shall be notified to each member of the House by telegram or letter.

This is the normal motion which is moved at the close of the business of Parliament at the end of a three­year term. It is ·not necessary for me to comment on whether it has been a successful period or other­wise. Sufficient to say that this Parliament has functioned according to the best traditions of democratic government. Whatever the out­come of the elections on the 27th June, Parliament will reassemble early in July. The people will determine which party shall form the new Government. I thank all honor­able members for their courtesy and co-operation throughout the past three years. Naturally, it would suit me if, when Parliament reassembled, I saw the same faces again. Therefore, I could almost wish everyone a safe return. However, these things are outside our jurisdiction and are in the hands of the people, where they should be. On behalf of our party, I thank the table officers for the manner in which they have assisted in the conduct of this Parliament. At least I can be safe in saying that they will be back here after the 27th June. For those of us who will be fortunate enough to return, let us hope we can carry on in harmony and co-operate at least on the things that really matter.

I thank members of the Govern­ment party, the Opposition and the Country party for their co-operation during the past three years. Although the gloves are off, let it be a good and fair fight, and, whoever wins, let the others be the first to congratulate them.

Mr. STONEHAM (Leader of the Opposition) .-1 should like to recip­rocate the sentiments expressed by the Premier and to reiterate his appreciation of the services rendered to Parliament by the table officers and other members of the staff. I believe we have all upheld the tradi­tions of democracy, and can take pride in having participated in the proceedings of this Parliament.

Reference was made earlier to-day to the members who will voluntarily retire at the close of the present

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session. It may be premature to forecast those who will otherwise retire in June; nevertheless the general feeling among members on both sides of the House, irrespective of political party, has been good, and there will be genuine regret for those members who will not return after the election. As the Premier has stated, we live in a democracy, and may the best side win.

Mr. MITCHELL (Benambra).-On behalf of the Country party, 1 should like to echo and support the fine sentiments expressed by the Premier and the Leader of the Opposition. I feel that what they have said is parti­cularly appropriate at this time, when, as never before the whole institution of Parliament~ry government is being challenged in a very severe and threatening way. We will only survive against this tide of barbarism if we continue to live and act as democratic Christian citizens should, and show by the conduct of our affairs in this House that democracy is the only way that allows the true freedom of the individual to develop as it should while he is upon this earth.

So far as the forthcoming elections are concerned, the Country party is friendly with all and familiar with none. We have no alignments or tie-ups with anyone else. We. will accept the verdict of the umplre­the people-and, if we are re-elected we will, in whatever capacity we may be returned, play our part with our good friends, the officers of this House and the other members of the staff. We are deeply sensitive of our role of acting to ensure that the descendants of the pioneers of the outer regions of this State receive the justice to which they are entitled. We will, however, co-operate with anyone willing to forward the interests of Victoria as a whole.

The DEPUTY SPEAKER (Mr. Rafferty).-I have received the following letter from Mr. Speaker:­Dear Mr. Rafferty,

I greatly regret that I am not able to be present in the last hours of the sitting of the Assembly. The fact is that I had

some weeks ago accepted an engagement in mv electorate. I did so believing that we would conclude the business of the Assembly last night.

Will you please express to the HO':lse my deep appreciation of the co-operat!on of members. Without that co-operatIon the task of Speaker might well have been more difficult and without the great pleasure I have often enjoyed.

Will you please convey to Mr. Robertson, Mr. McDonnell, Mr. Campbell and Mr. McCarron my sincere thanks for their de­votion to duty to the House and ready assistance to me.

On behalf of the House Committee, may I express appreciation to all the staff of Parliament.

Yours sincerely, W. J. F. McDONALD, M.P.,

Speaker, Legislative Assembly.

As Chairman of Committees and on behalf of the Temporary Chairmen of Committees, I should like to express our appreciation of the large measure of co-operation that we have re­ceived from all honorable members and from the table officers during the life of the Parliament.

The motion was agreed to.

Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea­surer) .-1 move-

That the House do now adjourn.

Mr. WILTON (Broadmeadows).-I rise at this late hour to request the Premier to ask the Acting Minister of Public Works to reply to a question on notice which I addressed to him yesterday. I am aware that questions are not answered on Thursdays, but as it will be a considerable time be­fore Parliament reassembles, 1 should be grateful if the Premier would ask the Acting Minister of Public Works to answer my question by letter.

Mr. BOLTE (Premier and Trea-surer) .-The answer will be supplied.

The motion was agreed to.

The House adjourned at 9.39 p.m.

Subsequently, by Proclamation published in the " Government Gazette" [No. 36 of 6th May, 1964], the Parliament was prorogued, and the Legislative Assembly was dis­solved.

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I N D E X.

VOLS. 271, 272, 273, 274.

LEG ISLATIVE COUNCIL.

A.

Aborigines Welfare Board - Provision of homes, (qn.) 456.

Accidents. (See" Road Accidents" and "Road Traffic.")

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill -Received from Assembly and first reading, 3156; second reading, 3282, 3389; Committee, 3391, 4261; remaining stages, 4261.

Acts of Parliament-Drafting in simple language, 381. Reprinting, 4092.

Address-in-Reply. (See "Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.")

Adoption of Children Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3161; second reading, 3283, 3641; Committee, 3646, 3819; remaining stages, 3834. Assembly amendments dealt with, 4229.

Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 11; second reading, 27, 96; remaining stages, 96.

Adult Education. (See" Education (Adult Education) Bill.")

Advertising. (See" Police Offences (Amend­ment) Bill.")

Affidavits. (See " Evidence (Affidavits) Bill.")

Aged and Invalid Persons. (See" Depart­ment of Health," "Hospitals and Chari­ties Commission," "Mental Health Authority" and "Municipalities.") 4567/64.

Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill­Received from Assembly and first reading, 2483; second reading, 2496, 2836; Committee, 2837; remaining stages, 2838.

Agriculture, Department of. (See" Depart­ment of Agriculture.")

Aircraft-Noise from testing of engines at Essendon airport, (qn.) 626. (See. also "Crimes (Aircraft) Bill.")

Alpine Resorts Development Advisory Com­mittee-Activities, 3007.

Animals. (See" Police Offences (Animals) Bill.")

Appeal Costs Fund Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3270; second reading, 3381, 3617; Committee, 3619; remaining stages, 3621.

Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2384; second reading, 2478, 2818; Committee, 2822; remaining stages, 2825.

Apprenticeship Commission-Staff, (qn.) 2794. Survey of courses, 4068.

Appropriation Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2860; second reading, 2869, 3003; Committee, 3007; remaining stages, 3014.

Art Gallery. (See" National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre.") .

Artificial Insemination. (See" Department of Agriculture.")

Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi­dent of the United States of America, 2384, 3106.

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Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill­Received from Assembly and first read­ing, 3980; second reading, 4051; remain­ing stages, 4052.

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2384; second reading, 2488, 2604; Committee and remaining stages, 2605.

Automation-Policy of Government, (qn.) 1031, 1163. Attitude of Australian Council of Trade Unions, 1164. Effect on employees of State Electricity Com­mission, 1168. Definition of, 1170. Retiring benefits for displaced em­ployees, 1171.

B. Ballarat Gaol. (See" Prisons Division.")

Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands Ex­change Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3270; second reading, 3378, 3567; Committee and remaining stages, 3568.

Banks. (See" State Savings Bank," "State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill" and "State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill (No.2).")

Barley. (See "Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill.")

Beechworth Prison-Suggested extension, 4106.

Benevolent Societies-Grants to ladies' benevolent societies, (qn.) 1147.

Betting-Prosecutions for illegal betting, (qn.) 456. (See also "Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill," "Totali­zator Agency Board" and "Totali­zators.")

BilIs-

Lapsed-Evidence (Privilege of Witnesses) Bill. Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill. Public and Recreational Lands Bill. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill. Scientology Restriction Bill. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill.

Rejected-Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 2733.

Withdrawn-Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment) Bill, 3003. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment) Bill (No.2), 3003. Transfer of Land (Ser­vice Agreements) Bill, 3107.

Boats. (See " Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill " and " Motor Boating Act.")

Boiler Attendants-Examinations for certi­ficate of competency, (qns.) 2220, 3278, 3370.

Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 2275; second reading, 2346, 2696; Com­mittee, 2698; remaining stages, 2699.

Bookmakers and Bookmakers' Clerks Regis­tration Committee - Members, (qn.) 2603.

Bradbury, Hon. A. K. (North-Eastern Province).

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill, 2605.

Children's Welfare (Retainers) Bill, 2252. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decen-

tralized Industries) Bill, 2555. Consolidated Revenue Bill, 505. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4105. Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2612. Education (Adult Education) Bill, 4241. Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia

(Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3834.

Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill, 638. Hospitals and Charities (Amendment)

Bill, 1982. Hospitals and Charities Commission-Re­

building of Benalla and District Hospital, 4105.

Labour and Industry· (Employment of Children) Bill, 2861.

Licensing Act-Royal Commission, 3158. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2975. Maryborough Free Library and Literary

Institute Bill, 3813. Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur

Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4269.

Municipalities-Acquisition of railway land in Benalla, 4105.

National Parks Bill, 4220. Prisons Division-Accommodation, 4106.

Extension of Beechworth Prison, 4106. Railway Department-Derailments on

Melbourne-Albury standard and broad gauge lines, 454, 505. Spencer-street railway station, 507. Effect of Sale of Land Act on disposal of unused land, 4105.

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Bradbury, Hon. A. K.-continued.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 2628. Railways (Financial Reports) Bill, 1300. Sale of Land Act-Effect iIi country dis-

tricts, 4105. State Insurance Funds Bill, 2412. State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill

(No.2), 262l. Titles Office-Issue of titles, 4105. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­

tion of Land) Bill, 3386, 3477.

Breathalyzer Tests. (See "Road Acci­dents.")

Brotherhood of St. Laurence. (See" Hous­ing.")

Buses. (See" Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board.")

Business of the House-Days and hours of meeting, 11, 1541, 1718, 2560, 2630. Order of business, 11, 1664, 1718, 3548. New business, 11, 1718, 3548. Adjourn­ment until day and hour to be fixed by President, 3019, 426l.

,Byrne, Hon. Murray (Ballaarat Province). Address-in-Reply, 1994. Country Roads Board-Work near Pyke's

reservoir, 2125. Education Department-Residence area

titles, 4047. Housing-Home ownership, 1995. Co­

operative housing societies, 1997. Finance, 1998.

Housing Commission-Sale of homes on no deposit, 1997. Rental rebate system, 1998. Evictions, 1998.

Juvenile Delinquency-Influence of home life, 1996.

Lands Department-Land at Mount , Warrenheip, 1144. Law Course-Pass rate at University of

Melbourne and Royal Melbourne Insti­tute of Technology, 1032.

Money on Trust-Amounts held by the Supreme and County courts, Workers Compensation Board and Public Trus­tee, 362, 1998. Investments, 362, 1998.

Notaries Public-Appointment and quali­fications, 365.

Prisons Division-Removal of Ballarat Gaol, 625.

Queen Elizabeth Home, Ballarat-Expen­diture on capital and maintenance

, work, 4048.

Byrne, Hon. Murray-continued.

Railway Department-Level crossings at Beaufort and Buangor, 8U.

Residence Area Titles-Lending by State Savings Bank, 364. Joint tenancies and tenancies in common, 1024. Probate duties, 1024. Amendment of Land Act, 1024. Number in Victoria, 1147, 1999. Applications for freehold, 1147, 2000. Purchase of properties by Education Department, 4047.

Social Welfare Branch-Family cottages in Ararat, 1996.

Byrnes, Sir Percy (North-Western Pro­vince) .

Agriculture, Department of-Re-survey of soil in the Nyah irrigation settlement, 503.

Appropriation Bill, 3006, 301l. Assassination of John F. Kennedy,

President of the United States of America, 2385.

City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill, 2998.

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3016.

Close of Sessional Periods, 3022, 4264. Consolidated Revenue Bill, 466, 503. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3290. Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill,

2688, 2711, 2714, 2720. Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 2268. Deaths-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 8.

The Hon. G. J.' Tuckett, 2126. Sir Ewen Cameron, 3104. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A., 3794.

Decentralization-Implementation of re­commendations of Distribution of Population Committee, 466. Develop­ment of Portland, 468.

Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage (Amendment) Bill, 824.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 4085. Government Departments and Instrumen­

talities-Reports to Parliament, 3011. Government Printing Office-Printing of

departmental reports, 3011. Grain Elevators Board-Location and

capacity of additional storages, 1031. Availability and allocation of railway trucks, 2960, 2961.

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Byrnes, Sir Percy-continued.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 1658, 1663.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2), 3114, 3300.

Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 1990. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3113. Judges' Salaries and Allowances Bill,

2229. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­

sion, 13, 245. Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2843,

2847. Land Valuation-Appeals against land

valuations, 1027. Municipal valuations, 1027. Valuers employed by Govern­ment Departments, 1027. Valuations for probate, 1027.

Litter Bill, 4247. Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur

Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4264.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill, 3973, 3977.

Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill, 2862.

Port Phillip Bay-Facilities for shipping, 467.

Public and Recreational Lands Bill, 1381. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 2227. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4137. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 2418. Railway Loan Application Bill, 2696. Road Traffic-Construction of freeways in

metropolitan area, 470. Scientologists-Activities, 2154. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1621, 1939. Overseas trips by officials and wives, 3007, 3012. Annual report, 3011.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 24.

University (Faculties) Bill, 4241. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill,

365, 1148. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 1313. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2246. Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill, 2224. Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust)

Land Bill, 2394, 2995. Wool Sales-At Portland, 469.

C. Cadets hips. (See" Agricultural Education

(Cadetships) Bill.")

Cameron, Sir Ewen (East Yarra Province).

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3016.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill, 1975.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Latrobe Valley Hospitals and Health Services Association, 455, 1026, 1271.

(See also" Chairman of Committees, The (Sir Ewen Cameron) .")

Cameron, The Late Sir Ewen-Resolution of deep regret of House at death, 3103. Adjournment of House as mark of respect, 3106.

Campbell, Hon. W. M. (East Yarra Pro­vince).

Apprenticeship Commission-Survey of courses, 4068.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4068. Housing Commission-Darby and Joan

and lone person units, 4069. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Finance for metropolitan planning scheme, 4068.

Camping Areas-Fire hazard along Morn­ington Peninsula foreshores, 4120.

Cathedral Valley Softwoods Co-operative Limited-Sale of covenants, (qn.) 364.

Chairman of Committees, The-Death of Sir Ewen Cameron, 3103. Election of Mr. Garrett, 3107.

Chairman of Committees, The (Hon. W. R. Garrett).

Rulings and Statements of­Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 3375. Rulings and Statements as Acting Presi-

dent-Death-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A.,

3796. Debate-Ambit of second-reading debate.

4203. Scope of discussion on motion for adjournment of debate, 4259, 4260.

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Chairman of Committees, The (Hon. W. R. Garrett) -continued.

Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4275.

Questions on Notice-Member asking sup­plementary question, 4048.

Chairman of Committees, The (Sir Ewen Cameron).

Rulings and Statements 0/­Clauses-Amendment to proposed new

clause, 2713. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill-Casting vote on amendment to clause 2, 2980.

Rulings and Statements as Deputy Presi­dent-

Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 24. Inter­jections, 26.

Chairmen of Committees, Temporary­Appointments, 10.

Chandler, Hon. G. L. (Southern Province). Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill,

2483, 2496, 2838. Agriculture, Department of-Experimental

and research centres, 809, 1023. Re­search into fruit, vegetables and tobacco industries, 2475, 2675. Num­ber of fruit inspectors employed, 2794.

Apprenticeship Commission-Staff, 2794. Appropriation Bill, 2860, 2869, 3013. Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi-

dent of the United States of America, 2384, 2385.

Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill, 3980, 4051.

Automation-Policy of Government, 1031. Betting-Prosecutions for illegal betting,

456. Boiler Attendants-Examinations for cer­

tificate of competency, 2220, 3278, 3370. Bookmakers and Bookmakers' Clerks

Registration Committee - Members, 2603.

Business of the House-Days and hours of meeting, 11, 1541, 1718, 2560. Order of business, 11, 1664, 1718, 3548. New business, 11, 1718, 3548. Adjournment to day and hour to be fixed by the President, 3019, 4261.

Chairman of Committees-Election of Mr. Garrett, 3107.

Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued.

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3014.

Close of Sessional Periods, 3019, 4261. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment)

Bill, 97. Commonwealth Centre-EI1ection of new

offices, 1026. Companies Act-Garrisson Industries

Limited, 3271. Reid Murray Holdings Limited, 3274.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 454, 459, 514. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.2), 1841,

1853. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 3567.

3621, 3622, 4133. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3372, 3373. Country Roads Board-Tullamarine free­

way, 228, 231. Strathmore over-pass, 364, 1031. Strathmore freeway, 364. Work near Pyke's reservoir, 2125.

Deaths-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 7, 10. The Hon. G. J. Tuckett, 2126. Sir Ewen Cameron, 3103, 3106. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A., 3793, 3796.

Decentralization - Implementation of recommendations of Distribution of Population Committee, 363, 1605. Freight subsidies, 628. Road transport, 628. Sawmilling as approved decentra­lized industry, 3271. Statement of policy on approved secondary indus­tries, 3281.

Education Department-Telephones in State schools, 232. High schools in inner metropolitan area, 232. Number of teachers trained, 363. Expenditure on education, 363, 4134. Number of State schools and pupils, 363. New schools built in year 1962-63, 455. Insurance and replacement of equip­ment supplied by mothers' clubs, 625. Extensions to J. H. Boyd Domestic College, 626. Announcement of exami­nation results, 627. Heating of schools, 809. Assembly halls, 809. Sporting equipment, 810. Rental of halls, 1030. Contracts for construction of high schools, 1145. Use of primary school premises as kindergartens, 1145. Proposed extension of term II. vacation, 1373. Girls' technical school at Traralgon, 1605. New high school at Prahran, 2125. Television

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receivers in schools, 3157. Proposed Richmond high school, 3277. Teaching staff required, 3277. Foster High School, 3278. Qualified and unqualified teachers, 3444, 3616. Mothers' clubs, 3536. Student teachers from Castle­maine, 3616. Lectures by Victorian Teachers Union, 3709. School uniforms, 3710. Appointment of bursars to secondary schools, 3710. Capacity of and student attendance at high and technical schools in Doutta Galla "and Southern provinces, 3939. Residence area titles, 4047.

Electoral-Enrolments for Legislative Council provinces, 2124.

Engine Drivers-Examinations for certifi­cates of competency, 2220, 3278, 3370.

Essendon Aerodrome-Noise from testing of aircraft engines, 626.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 365, 635, 1294, 1295.

Firearms-Use on Sundays, 3282. Fisheries and Wildlife Department-De­

struction of European carp, 361, 3277. Dredging for scallops in Port Phillip Bay, 3274. Expenditure, 3369. Game licences, 3448.

Free Library Service Board-Subsidies to free library service groups, 1146.

Garrisson Industries Limited-Hammond report, 3271.

Government Departments and Instrumen­talities-Reports to Parliament, 3013.

Government Printing Offio~Printing of departmental reports, 3013.

Governor's Salary Bill, 1841. Grain Elevators Board-Location and

capacity of additional storages, 1032. A vail ability and allocation of railway trucks, 2960, 2962.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 808, 822, 1662, 1664.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2), 3114, 3164, 3307.

Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 1504, 1646.

House Committee-Council members ap­pointed, 10.

Inland Killing-Investigation by commit­tee, 808.

Jack Smith's Lak~Departmental file, 3278.

Jetport at Tullamarine-Direct rail ser­vice, 361.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 12, 233, 235. Request for files, 70, 74, 83, 86. Repairs, 625, 4047.

Labour and Industry, Department of­Staff, 2794.

Ladies' Benevolent Societies-Govern­ment grants, 1147.

Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Lessees, 3801. Rural production, 3801.

Lands Department-File relating to Mr. R. F. Freshwater, Kilmany, 455.

Land Valuation-Appeals against land valuations, 1027. Municipal valuations, 1027. Employment of valuers in Government Departments, 1027. Valua­tions for probate, 1027.

Law Examinations-Pass rate at Univer­sity of Melbourne and Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology, 1032.

Law Department - Court-house for Dromana, 3160.

Library Committee-Council members ap-pointed, 10.

Licensing Act-Royal Commission, 3158. Litter Bill, 3937, 3944. Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree

Gully) Bill, 479, 486. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2721, 2724, 2977, 2981. Maryborough Free Library and Literary

Institute Bill, 3469, 3555. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Flooding in North Coburg, 811. Publication and distribution of docu­ment, 1024. St. Kilda junction pro­posal, 1373. Cost of St. Kilda junction roundabout, 1373. Metropolitan boun­daries, 2385. Master plan, 2386. South­Eastern Freeway, 3158, 3369. Acquisi­tion of properties, 3158, 3369, 3712.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Elimination of certain compul­sory bus and tram stops, 627. Conduc­tors and conductresses, 628. Personal assistant to deputy chairman, 1274. Provision of toilet facilities, 2219.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Port Gellibrand reclamation scheme, 3371.

Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4261.

Milk Board-Consumption of milk in metropolitan area, 813. Pasteurization licences, 813. Dairy groups, 813. Cer-

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tification of bulk milk vats, 2057, 2603. Milk shop licences, 2124. Number of inspectors, 2124.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 1946, 1967, 2258.

Mobil Oil Australia Pty. Ltd.-Develop­ment of land in Port Melbourne, 812.

Money on Trust-Amounts held by Supreme and County courts, Workers Compensation Board and Public Trus­tee, 362. Investments, 362.

Mothers' Clubs-Funds raised, 3536. Motor Boating Act-Registration of small

boats, 1273. Inspection, search and rescue provisions, 1273. Police Motor Boating Squad, 3369, 3448, 3617, 3801. Licences issued, 3446. Fees collected, 3446. Improved facilities, 3446. Prose­cutions, 3937. Prescription of safety devices, 3937. Launching ramps, 3938. Payment of subsidies, 3938.

Motor Registration Branch-Faulty r:egis­tration labels, 3160.

Motor Vehicles - Registrations and revenue, 232, 1501. Driving licences and revenue, 1930. Safety belts in motor vehicles, 3533, 3709. Sale of second­hand vehicles to unlicensed drivers, 3616.

Mount Buffalo National Park-Adminis­tration of chalet, 812. Establishment of motel-hotel, 812.

Municipalities-Garbage tips and destruc­tors, 3279. Rates, 3535.

Notaries Public-Appointment and quali· fications, 365.

Oil Companies-Real estate holdings, 626. Packaged Goods-Report of Board of In­

quiry into standardization and marking, 3940.

Pay-roll Tax-Amounts paid by Govern­ment Departments and instrumentali­ties, 2962.

Points of Order-Ambit of debate on motion for adjournment of House, 1505. Competency of adjournment motion, 1931. Second reading of private mem­ber's Bill, 2388. Statement in debate, 2526.

Police Department-Criminal Investiga­tion Branch for Williamstown, 1374. Personnel at Ascot Vale, Broad­meadows, Essendon and Glenroy police stations, 3271. Search for Bendigo escapees, 3444. Footscray police station, 3447. Footscray Criminal

Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued.

Investigation Branch, 3447. Police recruits, 3535. Deaths, retirements, resignations and dismissals, 3535. Authorized and actual strengths, 3535.

Port Phillip Bay-Dredging for scallops, 3274. Alienation of foreshore land, 3280.

Presidency-Appointment of Mr. Garrett as Acting President, 3793.

Printing Committee-Appointment, 11. Prisons Division-Payment of prisoners

for reafforestation work, 457. Ballarat Gaol, 625, 1604. Bendigo Gaol escapees, 3444.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4137. Public Works Department - Oncost

charges for design, supervision and administration, 2603. Administrative costs of Department, 2603.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1144, 1275, 2427, 2429.

Queen Victoria Market-Proposed legisla­tion, 4135. Duplicate docket system, 4135.

Railway Department-Underground rail­way, 70, 1929. Derailments, 454, 515, 3370. Wool freight charges, 454. Harris trains, 454, 3276. Un­manned stations, 626, 3274. Level crossings: Green-street and Burnley­street, Richmond, 626; in metropolitan area, 810; at Beaufort and Buangor, 811; Puck Ie-street, Moonee Ponds, 3160; Buckley-street, Essendon, 3160. New­port-Sunshine loop line, 1373, 3711. Newport station, 1373, 3711. Re­building of Spencer-street station, 1930, 4048, 4198. Rail link between Mel­bourne and Tullam arine, 2219. Off­peak and Sunday services, 3274. Over­loading of trucks, 3370. Flinders-street, Princes Bridge and Camberwell pro­jects, 3370, 3616, 3711. Track main­tenance, 3533. Double-deck carriages, 3533. East Richmond station, 3711.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1501, 1655, 2695.

Railways (Financial Reports) Bill, 625. 815, 1302, 1726.

Reid Murray Holdings Limited, 3274. Residence Area Titles-Lending by State

Savings Bank, 364. Joint tenancies and tenancies in common, 1024. Probate duties, 1024. Amendment of Land Act,

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1024. Number in Victoria, 1147. Ap­plications for freeholds, 1147. Purchase by Education Department, 4047.

River Murray Waters Bill,· 2085, 2171, 2411.

River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes Storage) Bill, 2007, 2169.

Road Accidents-Fatalities, 229. Charges, convictions and penalties, 229. Breathalyzer tests, 230. Fatalities in­volving semi-trailers, 3447. Safety belts in motor cars, 3533, 3709. Accidents at junction of Goulburn Valley and Hume highways, 3938.

Road Traffic-Survey of metropolitan traffic, 1372, 1606. Traffic blitzes, 1372.

Royalty-Message of congratulations on birth of Royal Prince, 3156.

Rural Finance and Settlement Commission -Conditions at Robinvale, 1272.

Scientologists-Activities, 1033, 2342, 2678.

Scientology Restriction Bill, 2386, 2388, 2526.

Sewerage-Expenditure on country sewerage works, 4134.

Standing Orders Commit"tee-Appoint­ment, 10.

State Development-Use of local and im­ported fuels and operations of oil com­panies, 1505, 1512. Subsidies to Rail­way Department and industries, 3710.

State Development Committee--Council members appointed, 10.

State Library-Australian section, 3368. . State Rivers and Water Supply Com­

mission-File relating to Mr. R. F. Freshwater, of Kilmany, 229. Drainage and irrigation works at Dutson Springs, 229. Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1538, 1614, 1931, 1938, 4048. Annual report, 3013. Overseas trips by officials and their wives, 3014. Goulburn­Murray Irrigation District, 3159. Coliban system, 3937.

Statute Law Revision Committee-Coun­cil members appointed, 10, 3107.

St. Kilda Foreshore-Offensive odours, 629, 3014.

Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill, 11, 27, 377.

Subordinate Legislation Committee-Council members appointed, 10.

Suncoast Land, Queensland, 3271. Supreme Court-Report of Judges, 12. Tobacco Sellers-Registration, 3534, 3709.

Chandler, Hon. G. L.-continued.

Totalizator Agency Board-Branches and agencies, 3281. Salaries, 3281. Castle­maine branch, 3534.

Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 2253, 2328, 2685.

Town and Country Planning Board­Metropolitan boundaries, 2385. Func­tions and powers, 2385. Plan for City of Melbourne, 2386.

Tractors - Fatalities, 1374. Driving licences, 1717, 1843.

Trade Holidays-Review, 3536. Universities-Up-grading of technical

colleges in provincial cities, 630. Students admitted and refused admit­tance to faculties, 1272, 3802, 3938. Grants to university colleges, 3534. Siting of third university, 3172. Library grants, 4198.

Univ.ersity of Melbourne--Chemical engi­neering department, 1930, 2386.

Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­ment) Bill, 2275, 2324, 2832, 2835.

Victoria Promotion Committee-Govern­ment grants, 1146. Establishment of decentralization fund, 1146. Balance­sheets and associated documents, 1718.

Water Supply-Expenditure on country waterworks trusts and town water supplies, 4134.

Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill, 1843, 1849, 2226.

Wilson's Promontory-Establishment of motel-hotel, 812, 813.

Wodonga Sewerage Trust-Finance, 2793 . Yarra River-Lower Yarra crossing, 1373. Youth Organizations Assistance Fund-

Grants in. Doutta Galla Province, 1032.

Chemists. (See "Health (Amendment) Bill" and " Labour and Industry ·(Chemists' Shops) Bill.")

Children. (See "Adoption of Children Bill," "Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill," "Department of Health," "Health (Child Minding) Bill," "Hospitals and Charities Commission," " Juvenile Delinquency," "Labour and Industry (Employment of Children) Bill" and "Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill.")

Children'S Welfare (Retainers) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 1856; second reading, 2062, 2252; re­maining stages, 2253.

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Chowilla Reservoir. (See" River Murray Waters BilL")

Cigarettes. (See" Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill.")

City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2696; second reading, 2796, 2996; remaining stages, 2998.

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3014. Appointment of Mr. L. G. McDonald as Clerk of Legislative Council, 3102.

Close of Sessional Periods, 3019, 4261. Coal. (See "State Electricity Commis­

sion.") Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill-Received

from Assembly and first reading, 2615; second reading, 2615, 2860; Committee and remaining stages, 2860.

Co lac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­ling Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1271; second reading, 1404, 2064; Committee, 2072; remaining stages, 2073.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 12; second reading, 97, 369, 1154, 1389; Bill withdrawn, 3003.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment) Bill (No. 2)-Introduction and first reading, 87; Bill withdrawn, 3003.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized Industries) Bill-Received from Assem­bly and first reading, 1857; second read­ing, 2159, 2504, 2534; Committee, 2556; remaining stages, 2560.

Commission of Public Health. (See "Health (Amendment) Bill.")

Commonwealth Centre-Erection of new Melbourne offices, ( qn.) 1026.

Companies-Reports of inspectors into affairs of Public Fidelity and Audit Limited, 814; into affairs of Testro Bros. Consolidated Limited, Testro Bros. Pty. Ltd., Testro Print Pty. Ltp., Sun­coast Development Pty. Ltd., and Surfers Paradise Land Development Corporation Pty. Ltd., 1843; and into affairs of Reid Murray group, 2678, 3004. Hammond report on Garrisson In­dustries Limited, (qn.) 3270. Murray­Shaw report on Reid Murray Holdings Limited, (qn.) 3274. Activities of companies, 3713. Take-overs, 4118

Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1503; second reading, 1649, 2329; Committee, 2339; remammg stages, 2342. Assembly amendments agreed to, 2987.

Consolidated Revenue Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 454; second reading, 459, 480, 486; Committee, 492; remaining stages, 515.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2)-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 1841; second reading, 1853, 2347, 2998; remaining stages, 2999.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3).-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 3567; second reading, 3621, 4055, 4087; Committee, 4117; remaining stages, 4137.

Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3114; second reading, 3161, 3289, 3372; Committee, 3374; remaining stages, 3377.

Co-operation (Amendment) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 2126; second read­ing, 2220, 2609; Committee, 2613; remaining stages, 2614.

Co-operative Housing. (See" Housing.")

Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2710; second reading, 2721, 2988; Committee and remaining stages, 2994.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Guarantees) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 624; second reading, 814, 1045; Committee, 1056; remaining stages, 1062.

Council of Adult Education. (See" Educa­tion (Adult Education) Bill.")

Country Fire Authority-Suggested recon­stitution, 492, 494.

Country Roads Board-Freeway to Tulla­marine jetport, (qn.) 228, (qn.) 231, 475, 1871, 4123. Strathmore over-pass, (qn.) 364, (qn.) 1031, 4124. Strathmore freeway, (qn.) 364, 475, 1871, 4123. New techniques of road construction 382. Work near Pyke's reservoir, (qn.; 2125. Proposed new tourist roads, 4067. Duplication of Nepean Highway, 4120. Maribyrnong river bridge linking Mari­byrnong with Avondale Heights, 4123.

County Court-Money held on trust, (qn.) 362.

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Courts. (See" Appeal Costs Fund Bill," " Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill " and "Law Department.")

Crematoria-Suggested establishment of crematorium in Gippsland, (qn.) 231.

Crimes (Aircraft) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 365; second reading, 457, 1036; Committee, 1043, 2344; remaining stages, 2346.

Crippled Children. (See" Hospitals and Charities Commission.")

Cruelty to Animals. (See" Police Offences (Animals) Bill.")

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 11; second reading, 1718, 2604, 2685; Committee, 2690, 2710; remaining stages, 2721.

Cultural Centre. (See " National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre.")

D. Dairying Industry-Establishment in Malaya

of reconstituted milk plant, 18. Pay­ments by butter factories on behalf of dairy farmers to governmental authori­ties, 4095. Charges for checking of bulk milk refrigerator vats, 4096. (See also "Milk Board.")

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1717; second reading, 1845, 2260; Committee, 2269; remaining stages, 2275.

Deaf Children-Oral school for deaf at Bendigo, 4069, 4080.

Deaths-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 7. The Hon. G. J. Tuckett, 2126. Sir Ewen Cameron, 3103. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A., 3793.

Decentralization-Implementation of recom­mendations of Distribution of Population Committee, 15, (qn.) 363,466,475, (qn.) 1605, 1864, 4059. Importance of sec­ondary industries, 15. Decentralization Fund, 15, (qn.) 1146. Road transport, 15, (qn.) 628. Assistance to established industries, 16. Support for local shop­keepers, 17. Taxation incentives, 18. Bacchus Marsh steam power proJect, 19. Establishment of industries in country centres, 380,1859. Development of Portland, 468, 481, 486. Need for increased food production, 489. Im­portance of housing, 482, 4066, 4137.

Decentralization-continued.

Freight subsidies, (qn.) 628. Employ­ment for females in Latrobe Valley, 1187, 4117, 4119. Use of local and im­ported fuels, 1504. Sawmilling as approved decentralized industry, (qn.) 3271. Statement of policy on approved secondary industries, (qn.) 3281. Prob­lems at Maryborough, 4115. Suggested establishment of country offices of Motor, Registration Branch, 4117. Establishment of regional branches of Titles Office, 4119. Encouragement by municipalities, 4125. (See also "Com­mercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment) Bill," cc Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment) Bill (No.2) ," "Com­mercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized industries) Bill" and "State Develop­ment."}

Department of Agriculture-Re-survey of soil in Nyah irrigation settlement, 503. Experimental and research centres, (qn.) 809, ( qn.) 1023, 1186. Tractor testing station at Werribee, 1186. Arti­ficial insemination of cattle, 1858. Re­search into fruit, vegetable and tobacco industries, (qns.) 2475, 2675. Number of fruit inspectors em­ployed, (qn.) 2794. (See also "Fertili­zers (Amendment) Bill," "Stock Medi­cines (Amendment) Bill" and "Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­ment) Bill."}

Department of Health­Crematoria-Suggested establishment of

crematorium in Gippsland, (qn.) 231. Finance-Commonwealth subsidies for

health services, 4083. Foodstuffs-Labelling, 2001. Adulteration

of olive oil, 2002. Kindergartens-Payments to kindergartens

and pre-school centres in City of Richmond, ( qn.) 229. Number in Vic­toria, (qn.) 1026. Staffing, (qn.) 1026. Government grants, (qn.) 1026, 1174, 1869, 4093. Training of teachers, (qn.) 1026, 1174, 1867, 3008, 4093. Use of primary school premises, (qn.) 1145. Establishment in country towns, 1174.

Meat Industry-Inspection of meat for export and local consumption, 4126, 4130.

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Department of Health-continued. Tuberculosis-Incidence, (qn.) 360. Chest

X-ray examinations, (qn.) 360. New building at Coburg, 4099.

(See also "Health (Amendment) Bill," "Health (Child Minding) Bill," "Hos­pitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill," "Hospitals and Charities Commission" and "Mental Health Authority.")

Department of Labour and Industry­Engine drivers' and boiler attendants' certificates, (qns.) 2220, 3278, 3370. Staff, (qn.) 2794. (See also "Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill," " Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill," "Labour and Industry (Employment of Children) Bill" and "Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill.")

Dickie, Hon. V. O. (Ballaarat Province). Address-in-Reply, 13. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized

Industries) Bill, 2512. Dairying Industry-Establishment in

Malaya of reconstituted milk plant, 18. Decentralization - Implementation of

recommendations of Distribution of Population Committee, 15. Importance of secondary industries, 15. Decentrali­zation Fund, 15. Road transport, 15. Assistance to established industries, 16. Support for local shopkeepers, 17. Taxation incentives, 18. Bacchus Marsh steam power project, 19.

Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Service to State, 13.

Parliament-Public interest, 14. Royalty-Visits to Victoria, 14. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Development of Lerderderg river, 19.

Divisions-Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill­

On amendment to clause 2, 2699. Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­

ling Bill-On motion for second read­ing, 2072.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized Industries) Bill-On amendment to clause 3, 2560.

Divisions-con tinued. Companies Act-On moiion for adjourn­

ment of House to discuss activities of companies, 3744.

Consolidated Revenue Bill-On motion for second reading, 492.

Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The-On motion for second reading, 3374.

Health (Amendment) Bill-On clause 4, 3812.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill-On amendment to clause 14, 1989.

Kings Bridge-On amendment to motion relating to report of Royal Commission, 310.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill­On clause 11, 2815; on proposed new clause, 2818.

Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill-On amendment to clause 2, 2980.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-On motion for adjournment of House to discuss acquisition of land by State Rivers and Water Supply Commission, 1640. On motion for adjournment of House to discuss compensation of landowners affected by construction of reservoir, 1946.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill-On amendment to clause 5, 4210.

Public Works Loan Application Bill-On suggested amendments to schedule, 2426, 2430.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-On motion for second reading, 2858. On motion for adjournment of debate, 4260.

Scientology-On motion for adjournment of House to discuss activities of scientologists, 2159.

Scientology Restriction Bill-On motion for adjournment of debate, 3372.

State Development-On motion for ad­journment of House to discuss use of local and imported fuels and operations of oil companies, 1538.

Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill-On motion for second reading, 2733.

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill-On motion for second reading, 2237.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill-On motion for second read­ing, 2399.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­tion of Land) Bill-On motion for second reading, 3486.

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Door to Door (Sales) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1275; second reading, 1640, 2073; Committee, 2076; remaining stages, 2085.

Drugs-Statement by Mental Health Authority pharmacist, (qn.) 1146, 1374.

E. Education-Ramsay report on tertiary edu­

cation, 379. Loans for education, 1161. Vocational re-education, 1162. (See also II Universities.")

Education (Adult Education) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3852; second reading, 3855, 4240; remaining stages, 4241.

Education Department-Accommodation-Total number of State

schools, (qn.) 363. New schools built in year 1962-63, (qn.) 455. Heating of buildings, ( qn.) 809. Assembly halls, (qn.) 809. Rental of halls, (qn.) 1030. Use of primary school premises as kindergartens, (qn.) 1145. Provision of class-rooms, 2348.

Administration-Telephones in schools, (qn.) 232. School leaving age, 1161. Proposed extension of term II. vacation, (qn.) 1372. Lectures by Victorian Teachers Union, ( qn.) 3709. Liaison with Public Works Department, 4061. Advice to members of Parliament, 4062.

Deaf Children-Oral school for deaf at Bendigo, 4069, 4080.

Domestic Schools-Tenders for extensions at J. H. Boyd Domestic College, (qn.) 626.·

Equipment-Television receivers in schools, (qn.) 3157. Sporting equipment for State schools, (qn.) 810.

Examinations-Announcement of results, (qn.) 627.

Finance-Expenditure on education, (qn.) 363, 477, 1166, 3008, 4057, 4134.

High Schools-Plans for erection in inner metropolitan area, (qn.) 232, 1166. Buckley Park High School, (qn.) 1145. Contracts for construction of high schools, (qn.) 1145. New high school for Prahran, (qn.) 2125. Proposed Richmond high school, (qn.) 3277. Foster High School, (qn.) 3277. Enrol­ments at and maximum capacity of certain schools in Doutta Galla and Southern provinces, (qn.) 3939, 4113.

Education Department-continued.

Land-Purchase of "Residence Area" properties, (qn.) 4047.

Mothers' Clubs-Funds raised, (qn.) 3536. Pupils-Total number enrolled, (qn.) 363.

School uniforms, (qn.) 3710. School Committees-Provision of. ameni·

ties for schools, 478. Insurance and replacement of equipment supplied by mothers' clubs, (qn.) 625.

Staff-Appointment of bursars to second­ary schools, (qn.) 3710.

Teachers-Numbers trained, (qn.) 363. Staff required, (qn.) 3277. Qualified and unqualified teachers, ( qn.) 3444, (qn.) 3616,4092. Student teachers from Castlemaine, (qn.) 3616.

Technical Schools-Need for girls' school in Latrobe Valley, 1187, (qn.) 1605. En· rolments at and maximum capacity of certain schools in Doutta Galla and Southern provinces, (qn.) 3939, 4113. Suggested course for trainee hair­dressers, 4094, 4117.

Transport of Scholars-Subsidized bus services, 4063.

(See also "Public Service (Amendment) Bill," "Raising of School Leaving Age (Consequential Amendments) Bill," "Superannuation Bill" and II Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill.")

Electoral-Enrolments for Legislative Council provinces, (qn.) 2124. (See also II Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The.")

Electrical Undertakings Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2685; second reading, 2727, 2981; Committee and remaining stages, 2987.

Electricity. (See" State Electricity Com­mission.")

Elliot, Hon. D. G. (Melbourne Province).

Address-in-Reply, 1160. Appropriation Bill, 3010. Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill,

4052. Automation-Policy of Government, 1031,

1163. Attitude of Australian Council of Trade Unions, 1164.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 488, 511. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4114,

4132. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3376.

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Elliot, Hon. D. G.-continued.

Decentralization-Need for increased food production, 489. Problems in Mary· borough, 4115.

Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2075, 2080. Education-Loans for education, 1161.

Vocational re-education, 1162. Education Department-High schools in

inner metropolitan area, 232, 1166. Ex­penditure on sporting equipment, 810. School leaving age, 1161. Expenditure, 1166. Proposed Richmond high school, 3277. Teaching staff required, 3277.

Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill, 3948, 3952.

Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage (Amendment) Bill, 824.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 3961. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3457. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 1735,

1736. Hospitals and Charities (Amendment)

Bill, 1969, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1987. Hospitals and Charities Cornmission­

Financial assistance for Richmond Dis­pensary and Outdoor Clinic and Single­ton Dispensary and Welfare Centre, 4116.

Housing Commission-Slum reclamation in Fitzroy, 491, 811. Survey of backlog of applications for homes, 3272.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 657. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­

sion, 301. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

2816. Litter Bill, 4246, 4255. Marine Board-Pilot exemption for tanker,

3010. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Acquisition of property in East Melbourne and Jolimont, 3711.

Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill, 839.

Municipalities-Garbage tips and destruc-tors, 3279.

Police Department-Crime in Fitzroy, 489. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4206. Railway Department-Mount Buffalo

Chalet, 513. Service to passengers on Overland express, 512, 4132. Unmanned stations, 4132.

Raising of School Leaving Age (Conse­quential Amendments) Bill, 2230, 2232.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3630, 3635.

Scientologists-Activities, 2157.

Elliot, Hon. D. G.-continued.

State Development-Use of local and im­ported fuels, and operations of oil com­panies, 1530.

Street Untidiness-Remedial measures, 35. Superannuation Bill, 2797, 2799. Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 2329, 2680,

2685. Tourist Development Authority-Estab­

lishment of Government chalets, 513. Tractors - Fatalities, 1374. Driving

licences, 1717, 1843. Universities-Siting of third univ,ersity,

3712, 4116.

Employment-Positions for females in country districts, 1187, 4117, 4119. Work force statistics, 1869. Married women in industry, 1869.

Engine Drivers-Examinations for certifi­cate of competency, (qns.) 2220, 3278, 3370.

Equal Pay for the Sexes-Legislative action, 4114. (See also "Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill.")

Essendon Airport-Noise from testing of aircraft engines, (qn.) 626.

Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 3803; second read­ing, 3816, 3980; remaining stages, 3981.

Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 11; second reading, 29, 90; remaining stages, 91.

European Carp-Destruction of, (qn.), 361, (qn.) 3277, 4097.

Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia (Victorian District) Incorporation Blll, The-Received from Assembly, 3469; declared a private Bill, 3469; motion that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill ex­cept in relation to fees, agreed to, 3469; motion rescinded, 3745; motion that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill, agreed to, 3746; first reading, 3746; second read­ing, 3747, 3834; remaining stages, 3834.

Evidence (Affidavits) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 10; second reading, 26, 89; remaining stages, 90.

Evidence (Privilege of Witnesses) BiIl­Introduction and first reading, 3450.

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F. Feltham, Hon. P. V. (Northern Province).

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill, 4261.

Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill, 96.

Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3620. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment)

Bill, 12, 97, 369, 3003. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­

ized Industries) Bill, 2509. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 2334. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3293. Crimes (Aircraft) Bill, 1039, 2345. Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 2716. Death-The Hon. G. J. Tuckett, 2127. Decentralization-Statement of policy on

approved secondary industries, 3281. Evidence (Affidavits) Bill, 90. Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill,

660. Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill, 92. Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2964. Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2859. Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill, 825, 1035. Monash University (Amendment) Bill,

3968, 3975. Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2058. Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill,

2866. Process Servers and Inquiry Agents

(Qualification) Bill, 3183. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 4259. R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers'

Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3632. Scien tologists-Activities, 2138. Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges)

Bill, 3653, 3854. Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill,

643. Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill,

1304. Trustee Companies (The Perpetual

Executors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 1539, 1741.

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill, 2233, 2608.

University (Amendment) Bill, 2621. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill,

3372, 3834. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2249. Wills (Formal Validity) Bill, 3814.

Fertilizers· (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 365, second reading, 635, 1293; Committee, 1294; remaining stages, 1295.

Firearms-Use on Sundays, (qn.) 3282.

Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill­Received from Assembly and first read­ing, 3270; second reading, 3310, 3948; Committee, 3950; remaining stages, 3952.

Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Destruction of European carp, (qn.) 361, (qn.) 3277, 4097. Dredging for scallops in Port Phillip Bay, (qn.) 3274. Expenditure, ( qn.) 3369. Licences issued under Game Act, (qn.) 3448.

Foodstuffs-Labelling, 2001. Adulteration of olive oil, 2002.

Football Grounds-Exit gates, 4131.

Foreign Judgments (Amendment) BiII­Introduction and first reading, 233; second reading, 377, 659; Committee and remaining stages, 660.

Foreshores-Nuisance of offensive odour at St. Kilda, 33, (qn.) 629, 3009, 3014. Alienation of land, (qn.) 3280. Protec­tion, 4~20. Preservation of tea-tree, 4120. Responsibility of Lands Depart­ment, 412l.

Forests-Planting of softwoods and native timbers, (qn.) 68. Applications for land for tree planting under Land (Plantation Areas) Act, (qn.) 69. Sale of covenants by Cathedral Valley Soft­woods Co-operative Limited, (qn.) 364. (See also "Timber Industry.")

Forests Commission-Planting of softwoods and native timbers, (qn.) 68. Pine plantations at Koetong, (qn.) 361. Employment and payment of prisoners, (qn.) 361, (qn.) 456. Sirex wasp, (qn.) 3278, (qn.) 3368, 3802, 4126. Destruction of pine trees on Maccles­field property, 4125, 4136. (See also " State Forests Loan Application Bill.")

Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill­Introduction and first reading, 12; second reading, 87, 637; Committee and remaining stages, 639.

Free Library Service Board-Free library service groups, ( qn.) 1146.

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Freeways. (See" Country Roads Board," "Jet Airport" and "Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works.")

Fruit. (See" Department of Agriculture.")

Fuels-Use of local and imported fuels, 1504.

Fulton, Hon. W. O. (Gippsland Province).

Adoption of Children Bill, 3644, 3649, 3820, 3825, 3827, 3828, 3829, 3831.

Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill, 4051.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4082. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3299, 3372. Estate Agents (Further Amendment)

Bill, 91. Health (Amendment) Bill, 3808. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3170, 3456. Health, Department of-Incidence of

tuberculosis, 360; compulsory X-ray examinations, 360. Commonwealth subsidies for health services, 4083.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Cost of hospital treatment, 4083. Sub­sidies for home treatment of aged; 4083.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Com­mission, 280. Repairs, 4084.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, 3547.

Lands Department-File relating to Mr. R. F. Freshwater of Kilmany. 455.

Litter Bill, 4250. National Parks Bill, 4212, 4222, 4234.

Police Department-Search for Bendigo Gaol escapees, 3443, 4199.

Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 4239.

Public Works Committee-Inquiry into metropolitan water supply, 4082.

Retirement from Parliament, 4273.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3633.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 832.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-File relating to Mr. R. F. Fresh­water of Kilmany, 229. Damming of Thomson river, 4082.

Water Supply-Inquiry into metropolitan water supply, 4082.

G.

Galbally, Hon. J. W. (Melbourne North Province).

Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi­dent of the United States of America. 2384, 2385.

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill, 2604.

Business of the House-Alteration of sessional orders, 3548.

Camping Areas-Fire hazard along Momington Peninsula foreshores, 4120.

Companies Act-Activities of companies, 3713, 3736, 3737.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 460.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4107, 4120.

Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The, 3289, 3373, 33775.

Crimes (Aircraft) Bill, 1036.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 2685, 2711, 2712, 2716, 2718.

Deaths-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 7. The Hon. G. J. Tuckett, 2126. Sir Ewen Cameron,3103. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A., 3794.

Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill, 659, 660.

Governor's Salary Bill, 1646.

Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3113, 3167 3180, 3182, 3452, 3459, 3462, 3465.

Judges' Pensions Bill, 2604.

Judges' Salaries and Allowances Bill, 2229.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2962, 2968.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 12, 237. Request for files, 70, 74, 75, 83, 87. Contract for repair, 625.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, 3107, 3536, 3548.

Lands Department-Responsibility for foreshores, 4121.

Law Department-Independence of judi­ciary, 461, 464. Detention of girl at Mildura, 461. Public access to court proceedings, 464. Court accommoda­tion, 465. Court-house for Dromana, 3160.

Licensing Act-Royal Commission, 1314, 3158.

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Galbally, Hon. J. W.-continued.

Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, ·~263.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill, 3968, 3972, 3976.

Mornington Peninsula-Fire hazard in foreshore camping areas, 4120. Preser­vation of tea-tree on foreshores, 4120.

Oil Companies-Real estate holdings, 626. Parklands-Protection, 4121. Parliament-Legislative programme, 4107.

Prestige of Victorian Parliament, 4108. Abolition of Legislative Council, 4108. Ministerial statements, 4108. Public interest, 4109.

Points of Order-Reference to debate in Assembly, 235. Competency of ad­journment motion, 3736, 3737. Ambit of discussion on motion for adjourn­ment of debate, 4259.

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 1404, 2057.

Port Phillip Bay-Alienation of foreshore land, 3280. Preservation of tea-tree on foreshores, 4120.

Public and Recreational Lands Bill, 11, 365, 1385, 1389.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 2227, 2228.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4137, 4202, 4204, 4205, 4208, 4209.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2849. 3630, 4256, 4259.

Scientologists-Activities, 2127, 2128, 2322, 2343.

Scientology Restriction Bill, 2386, 2387, 2388, 2519, 2526, 2527, 2968, 3371, 3448.

Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, The, 2222.

Standard Insurance Company Limited (Amendment) Bill, 2222.

State Development-Use of local and im­ported fuels and operations of oil com· panies, 1504, 1505.

State Insurance Funds Bill, 2411. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1606, 1614, 1743, 1931, 1932.

Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges) Bill, 3650, 3657, 3854.

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill, 2233, 2608.

Universities-Grants to colleges, 3533. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­

tion of Land) Bill, 3386, 3479, 3489.

Game Act-Licences issued, (qn.) 3448. Gaols. (See" Prisons Division.")

Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3156; second reading, 3185, 3288; remaining stages, 3289.

Garbage Tips-Location in metropolitan area, ( qn.) 3279. (See also CI Litter Bill.")

Garrett, Hon. W. R. (Southern Province).

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 2266. Electoral-Enrolments for Legislative

Council provinces, 2124. Motor Car Bill, 2701. Public and Recreational Lands Bill, 1382. State Development-Use of local and im-

ported fuels and operations of oil companies, 1521.

(See also CI Chairman of Committees, The (Hon. W. R. Garrett) .").

Garrlsson Industries Limited-Hammond report, (qn.) 3270.

Gawlth, Hon. C. S. (Monash Province).

Death-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 9.

Geelong Land. (See CI Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands Exchange Bill.")

Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 624; second reading, 639, 824; remaining stages, 825.

Goods, Packaged-Report of Board of Inquiry into standardization and mark­ing, 3940.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3450; second reading, 3804, 3956; Committee, 3965, 4085; re­maining stages, 4086.

Govenlment Departments and Instrumen­talities-Reports to Parliament, 3011, 3012, 3013.

Government Printing Office-Printing of departmental reports, 3011, 3013. Re­printing of Acts of Parliament, 4092.

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Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Speech on open­ing of session, 2. Motion for adoption of Address-in-Reply, 13; seconded, 378; debated, 1160, 1410, 1857, 1994; agreed to, 2007. Presentation of ad­dress, 3106. Service to State, 13, 378.

Governor's Salary Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1410; second reading, 1538, 1646; remaining stages, 1646. Royal assent reserved, 1841.

Grain Elevators Board-Location and capacity of additional storages, (qn.) 1031. Availability and allocation of railway trucks, (qn.) 2960. (See also " Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill.")

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill­Received from Assembly and first reading, 808; second reading, 822, 1657; Committee, 1662; remaining stages, 1664.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No. 2)-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3114; second reading, 3164, 3300; Committee, 3307; remaining stages, 3308.

Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1504; second reading, 1646, 1990; remaining stages, 1994.

Grigg, Hon. T. H. (Bendigo Province). Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decen-

tralized Industries) Bill, 2169, 2543. Consolidated Revenue Bill, 494. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4080. Country Fire Authority-Suggested re-

constitution of Rural Fire Brigades Association, 494.

Education Department-Student teachers from Castlemaine, 3616. Oral school for deaf children at Bendigo, 4080.

Mothers' Clubs-Funds raised, 3536. Railway Loan Application Bill, 2691. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis-

sion-Coliban system, 3937. Totalizator Agency Board-Castlemaine

branch, 3534. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill,

384B. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2245.

Grigg, Hon. T. H.-continued.

Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair­man-

Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 3973, 3977.

Gross, Hon. K. S. (Western Province). Cathedral Valley Softwoods Co-opera­

tive Limited-Sale of covenants, 364. Death-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A.,

3795. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers)

Bill, 1661. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers)

Bill (No.2), 3304. Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 1993. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

2815. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2863. Railway Department-Shots fired at

Overland express, 3658. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 1311.

Guardians. (See "Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill.")

H. Hairdressing-Training of ladies' hair­

dressers, 4094, 4117. Travel conces­sions for trainees, 4094. Hostel in Mel­bourne for country trainees, 4095. Covera~e of trainees by Hospital Benefits Association, 4095.

Hamer, Hon. R. J. (East Yarra Province). Adoption of Children Bill, 3161, 3283, 364~ 381~ 3821, 3822, 3823, 382~

3825, 3826; 3827, 3828, 3829, 3830, 3831, 3832, 3833, 4229.

Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill, 11, 27.

Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3270, 3381, 3619, 3620, 3621.

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill, 2384, 2488, 2605.

Children's Welfare (Retainers) Bill, 1856, 2062.

Companies Act-Reports of inspectors into affairs of: Public Fidelity and Audit Limited, 814; Testro Bros. Con­solidated Ltd., Testro Print Pty. Ltd., Testro Bros. Pty. Ltd., Suncoast De­velopment Pty. Ltd., and Surfers

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Hamer, Hon. R. J.-continued.

Paradise Land Development Corpora­tion Pty. Ltd., 1843; and Reid Murray group, 2678. Activities of companies, 3717.

Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 1503, 1649, 2339, 2341, 2342, 2987, 2988.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 471. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3114, 3161, 3374, 3376, 3377.

Crimes (Aircraft) Bill, 365, 457, 1043, 2344, 2345, 2346.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 11, 1718, 2604, 2690, 2710, 2711, 2714, 2718, 2719.

Death-Sir Ewen Cameron, 3105. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 1275, 1640,

2077, 2079, 2084. Education (Adult Education) Bill, 3852,

3855. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 3803,

3816. Evidence (Affidavits) Bill, 10, 26. Evidence (Privilege of Witnesses) Bill,

3450. Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill,

3270, 3310, 3950. Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill,

233, 377. Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill, 12,

87, 639. Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill, 3156, 3185. Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 3450, 3804,

3966, 4085. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3454. Judges' Pensions Bill, 2399, 2481. Judges' Salaries and Allowances Bill,

1842, 1966. Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill, 12,

30. Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2675, 2794,

2966, 2968. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­

sion, 278. Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2615,

2616, 2859. Law Department-Detention of girl at

Mildura, 471. Independence of judiciary, 471. Court accommodation, 472.

Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill, 457, 630, 826, 1035.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Disallowance of statutory rule, 4050.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill, 3970.

Hamer, Hon. R. J.-continued. Motor Car Bill, 1842, 1954, 2706, 2708,

2709. Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences)

Bill, 4046, 4086, 4228, 4229. Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 1274,

1399, 2061, 2062. Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3855,

3945. Police Offences (Further Amendment)

Bill, 2630, 2679. Public and Recreational Lands Bill, 1376. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4206. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2219,

2489, 3449, 3622, 4259. Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1033,

1062, 1292, 1856. Scientologists-Activities, 2155. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 4084, 4222, 4226. Standard Insurance Company Limited

(Amendment) Bill, 1503, 1844. State Insurance Funds Bill, 2253, 2327. Superannuation Bill, 2430, 2498, 2799,

2800. Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges)

Bill, 3107, 3109, 3655, 3853. Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants)

Bill, 12, 88, 644. Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants)

Bill, 3450, 3552. Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill,

808, 1033, 1305. Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Ex­

ecutors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 808, 1160, 1540, 1740.

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill, 1843, 1851, 2237, 2607, 2609.

University (Amendment) Bill, 2343, 2399. University (Faculties) Bill, 3851, 3856. Wills (Formal Validity) Bill, 3469, 3555. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi-

tion of Land) Bill, 2388, 2476, 3387, 3487, 3491, 3851.

Health (Amendment) BUI-Introduction and first reading, 3450; second reading, 3548, 3807; Committee, 3809; remaining stages, 3813.

Health (Child Minding) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3107; second reading, 3111, 3167; Committee, 3177, 3450; re­maining stages, 3469. Assembly amend­ments dealt with, 3851.

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Holidays, Trade-Review, (qn.) 3536.

Home Finance (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 624; second reading, 818, 1726; Committee, 1731; remaining stages, 1736.

Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3469; second reading, 3557, 3635; Committee, 3640; remaining stages, 3641.

Home Finance Trust. (See" Housing.")

Horse-racing-Bookmakers and Bookmakers' Clerks Registration Committee, (qn.) 2603. (See also "Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill " and "Racing (Totalizators) Bill.")

Hospital Benefits Association-Coverage of trainee hairdressers, 4095.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill -Introduction and first reading, 1275; second reading, 1391, 1969; Committee, 1976; remaining stages, 1990.

Hospitals and Charities Commission-Pay­ments to hospitals and charitable insti­tutions from Tattersall consultations and totalizator funds, (qn.) 231. Latrobe Valley Hospitals and Health Services Association, (qns.) 455, 1026, 1271. Government grants to Spastic Children's Society, Yooralla Hospital, School for Crippled Children and Vic­torian Society for Crippled Children and Adults, (qn.) 1147. Members of, (qn.) 1929. Care of the aged, (qn.) 1929. Means test for hospital treatment, (qn.) 3156. Queen Elizabeth Homtl. Ballarat, (qn.) 4048. Institutional care for elderly persons, 4079. Cost of hospital treat­ment, 4083. Subsidies for home treat­ment of aged persons, 4083. Rebuilding of Benalla and District Hospital, 4105. Financial assistance for Richmond Dis­pensary and Outdoor Clinic and Single­ton Dispensary and Welfare Centre, 4116.

House Committee-Appointment of Council members, 10.

Housing-Request by conference of State Housing Ministers for inquiry into housing requirements, (qn.) 232. Lend­ing by State Savings Bank on residence area titles, (qn.) 364. Provision of finance, 379. 477, 483, 1998. Home ownership, 379, 476,501, 1995. Purchase of dwellings on small deposits, 496,

Housing-continued.

499, 502. Building and Allied Trades Federation budget home, 500. Finance for erection of houses on farms, 502. Co-operative housing societies, 1997, 4064, 4089. Survey by Brotherhood of St. Laurence, 4063, 4064, 4090. Pro­portion of incomes spent on rent, 4090. Home Finance Trust, 4111. (See also " Co-operative Housing Societies (Amendment) Bill," "Co-operative Housing Societies (Guarantees) Bill," "Decentralization," II Home Finance (Amendment) Bill," "Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill," "Resi­dence Area Titles," "State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill," "Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants) Bill" and "Transfer of Land (Service Agree­ments) Bill (No.2) .")

Housing Advances and Loans (Improper Commissions) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3745; second reading, 3803, 3953; Committee, 3954; remaining stages, 3956.

Housing Commisslon­

Administration-Emergency housing, 4065. Definition of metropolitan area, 4065, 4137.

Estates-Charles Eyres Richmond, ( qn.) 362. estate, (qn.) 4047.

Court estate, Broadmeadows

Finance-Expenditure on slum reclama­tion and other projects, (qn.) 3712, 4064. Allocation of funds by Common­wealth Government, 4089.

Home Ownership Advisory Bureau­Availability for consultation, 501. Estab­lishment, location, staff and applications. (qn.) 1717.

Homes-Darby and Joan and lone person units, (qn.) 230, 1413, (qn.) 3272, 4069, 4072, 4089, 4136. Applications under Housing (Contracts with Minors) Act, (qn.) 231. Units completed, sold and let, (qn.) 362. 1412, 1859, 1930, (qn.) 3160, (qn.) 3712, 4063, 4066, 4089. Pro­VISIon for aborigines, (qn.) 456. Number vacant, (qn.) 456. Number built in country areas, (qn.) 1025, (qn.) 3160, 4065, 4137. Applications for pur­chase, (qn.) 1604. Sale on no deposit, 1997. Sale and rental allocation policy, (qn.) 3160, 4064, 4089, 4112. Con­tractors and standard of construction,

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Housing Commission-continued. (qn.) 3160. Commission agents' and solicitors' fees in respect of sale of homes, (qn.) 3271, 4064. Sale prices, 4276.

Land-Buckley Park High School site, (qn.) 1145. Acquisition and sale of land in Broadmeadows, ( qn.) 1273, ( qn.) 1503, 1664, (qn.) 4047,4110, 4136, (qn.) 4198. Provision of land by municipali­ties, 1413. Use of Carlton land for Motor Registration Branch and Trans­port Regulation Board, (qn.) 1842, 1860.

Rents-Rebate system, 1998. Richmond and Collingwood estates, (qn.) 3271.

Slum Reclamation-Modernizing of ter­races, 379. Projects: In Fitzroy, 491, (qn.) 811; in Carlton, (qns.) 1842, 3534; in Richmond, 4090; in Williams­town, 4122, 4136. Development of area in South Melbourne, (qns.) 627, 812. Expenditure, (qn.) 3712, 4064.

Tenancies-Applications, (qn.) 362, (qn.) 627, 1413, (qn.) 1604, 4065, 4089. Allocations in country districts, 483, 501, (qn.) 3160. Evictions, 1998. Sur­vey of backlog of applicants, (qn.) 3272.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill-Intro~ duction and first reading, 233; second reading, 374', 645; Committee, 653; remaining stages, 659. Assembly amend­ments dealt with, 2085.

Hubbard Association of Scientologists Inter­national. (See" Scientologists.")

Hunt, Hon. A. J. (South-Eastern Province). Companies Act-Activities of companies,

3735, 3736. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 2338. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2082. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3463. Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill, 93.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Com-mission, 297.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 2812.

Point of Order-Competency of adjourn­ment motion, 1932.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2854. State Rivers and Water Supply Com­

mission-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1637, 1932, 1942.

I. Industries. (See" Decentralization," "Em­

ployment," " Primary Industries," "Secondary Industries" and "State Development.")

Inland Killing-Investigation by committee, (qn.) 808.

Inquiry Agents. (See" Process Servers and Inquiry Agents (Qualification) Bill.")

Insurance. (See" Australian and Overseas Insurance Company Limited Bill," "Standard Insurance Company Limited (Amendment) Bill" and " State Insur­ance Funds Bill.")

Irrigation. (See" Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill" and "State Rivers and Water Supply Commission.")

J.

Jack Smith's Lake-Departmental file, (qn.) 3278.

Jetport-Freeway to Tullamarine, (qn.) 228, (qn.) 231, 475, 1871, 4123. Direct rail service, (qn.) 361.

Judges. (See "Law Department," II Supreme Court" and II Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges) Bill.")

Judges' Pensions Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2399; second reading, 2481, 2604; remaining stages, 2604.

Judges' Salaries and Allowances 81l1-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 1842; second reading, 1966, 2229; re­maining stages, 2230.

Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) BllI­Introduction and first reading, 12; second reading, 30, 91; remaining stages, 96.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2675; second reading, 2794, 2962; Committee~ 2966; remaining stages, 2968.

Juvenile Delinquency-Hooliganism at Essendon, 495; at Footscray, 4076. Establishment of special courts, 1176. Influence of home life, 1996. (See also " Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill.")

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K. Kindergartens. (See " Department ot

Health.")

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commission into failure, 12, 233, 3004. Request for files, (qn.) 70, 74. Repairs, (qn.) 625, (qn.) 4046, 4076, 4084.

Knight, Hon. A. W. (Melbourne West Pro­vince).

Address-in-Reply, 1167. Automation-Effect on employees of State

Electricity Commission, 1168. Definition of, 1170. Retiring benefits for displaced employees, 1171.

Boiler Attendants-Examinations for certificate of competency, 2220, 3278, 3370.

Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, 2696, 2698.

Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill, 2860. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4090,

4122, 4130. Education Department-Television re­

ceivers in schools, 3157. Qualified and unqualified teachers, 3444, 3616, 4092.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2985. Engine Drivers-Examinations for certifi­

cate of competency, 2220, 3278, 3370. Fisheries and Wildlife Department­

Dredging for scallops in Port Phillip Bay, 3274 .

. Government Printing Office-Reprinting of Acts of Parliament, 4092.

Health (Amendment) Bill, 3807, 3811, 3812.

Health, Department of-Training of kindergarten teachers, 4093. Govern­ment grants to kindergartens, 4093.

Housing Commission-Slum reclamation in Williamstown, 4122.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 2085. Local Government Department-Reprint­

ing of Local Government Act, 4092. Meat Industry-Inspection of meat for

export and local consumption, 4130. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways

Board-Provision of toilet facilities, 2219.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Port Gellibrand reclamation scheme, 3371. Gellibrand lighthouse, 4093.

Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board-Equip­ment and services, 4090.

Motor Registration Branch-Faulty regis­tration labels, 3160.

Knight, Hon. A. W.-continued.

Municipalities-Rates, 4093. National Parks Bill, 4211, 4222, 4235. Oil Installations-Newport fire, 4090. Police Department-Williamstown Crim-

inal Investigation Branch, 1374, 4091. Footscray police station, 3447, 3492, 4091, 4092. Footscray Criminal In-vestigation Branch, 3447, 3492. Strength of Force, 4091.

Prisons Division-Accommodation, 4092. Ballarat Gaol, 4092.

Public Works Department-Completion of contracts, 4092. Suggested bonding of contractors, 4093.

Railway Department-Newport-Sunshine loop line, 1373, 3711, 4093. Newport railway station, 1373, 3711. Unmanned stations, 4094.

Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser­vations Bill, 3565.

State Electricity Commission-Develop­ment of brown coalfields, 1167. Effects of automation, 1168. Future of Yal­lourn, 1169.

Traffic Commission-Standardization of traffic signs, 4091.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 2389, 2995, 2996.

Workers Compensation Board-Supple­mentary Boards, 4091.

L. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill­

Received from Assembly and first read­ing, 2159; second reading, 2275, 2802; Committee, 2813; remaining stages, 2818.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill -Received from Assembly and first reading, 3851; second reading, 3940, 4242; Committee, 4244; remaining stages, 4245.

Labour and Industry, Department of. (See " Department of Labour and Industry.")

Labour and Industry (Employment of Chil­dren) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2615; second reading, 2619, 2860; remaining stages, 2861.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 3107; second reading, 3536.

Ladies' Benevolent Societies-Government grants, (qn.) 1147.

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Land-Suncoast land, Queensland, (qn.) 3271. (See also "Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill," "Balmoral Gee­long and Balwyn Lands Exchange Bill," "Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill," "Housing Commission-Land," "Public and Recreational Lands Bill," "Revoca· tion and Excision of Crown Reserva­tions Bill," " Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill," "Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants) Bill," "Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill (No.2) ," "Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill" and" Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill.")

Land (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1307; second reading, 1407, 1741; Committee, 1742, 2063; remaining stages, 2064.

Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Applications for land for tree planting, (qn.) 69. Lessees, (qn.) 380l. Rural production, (qn.) 380l.

Lands Department-File relating to Mr. R. F. Freshwater of Kilmany, (qn.) 455. Land at Mount Warrenheip, (qn.) 1144. Responsibility for foreshores, 412l.

Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 2615; second reading, 2616, 2858; Com­mittee and remaining stages, 2859.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 2560; second reading, 2605, 2838; Com­mittee, 2845, 2996; remaining stages, 2996.

Land Valuation-Boards of appeal, munici­pal valuations, employment of valuers and valuations for probate, (qn.) 1027. (See also" Valuation of Land (Amend­ment) Bill.")

Latrobe Valley. (See" Decentralization," "Education Department - Technical Schools" and "Hospitals and Charities Commission.")

Law Course-Pass rate at University of Melbourne and Royal Melbourne Insti­tute of Technology (qn.) 1032.

Law Department-Report of Supreme Court Judg.es for year 1962, 12. Moneys held on trust by Supreme and County courts, (qn.) 362, 1998. Independence of judiciary, 461, 464, 47l. Detention of girl at Mildura, 461, 47l. Public

Law Department-continued.

access to court proceedings, 464. Court accommodation, 465, 472, 1412. Court­house for Dromana, (qn.) 3160.

Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 457; second reading, 630, 825; Committee, 826, 1035; re­maining stages, 1036.

Legislative Council. (See" Electoral" and " Parliament.")

Libraries-Free library service groups, (qn.) 1146. Australian section at State Library, (qn.) 3368.

Library Committee - Appointment of Council members, 10.

Licensing Act-Royal Commission, 1314, (qn.) 3158, 4075. Liquor trading hours, 4075.

Litter Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3937; second reading, 3944, 4246; Committee, 4255; remaining stages, 4256.

Loan Funds-Use for revenue purposes, 478, 4056.

Local Government-Report of Commission of Inquiry, 4060. (See also "Munici­palities.")

Local Government (Amendment) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 1297; second reading, 1407, 1736; Com­mittee, 1739; remaining stages, 1740.

Local Government Department-Reprinting of Local Government Act, 4092. Minis­ter's overriding powers, 4099, 4124. Permits for supermarkets and drive-in centres, 4118.

Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree Gully) Bill-Received from Assembly, 479; declared a private Bill, 479; motion that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill, agreed to, 479; first reading, 479; second reading, 479, 484; third reading, 486.

M.

Machin, The Late Hon. Buckley-Resolu­tion of deep regret of House at death, 7. Adjournment of House as mark of respect, 10. Tributes, 382, 1857.

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Mack, Hon. R. W. (Western Province).

Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2384, 2478, 2822, 2824.

Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands Exchange Bill, 3270, 3378, 3568.

Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, 2275, 2346, 2698.

CLerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3017.

Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill, 2615, 2860. Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dis­

mantling Bill, 1271, 1404, 2072. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amendment)

Bill, 1154. Commercial Goods VehicLes (Amendment)

Bill (No.2), 87, 3003. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentra­

lized Industries) Bill, 1857, 2159, 2169, 2556, 2558.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 486. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4129. Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1717,

1845, 2269, 2271, 2272, 2274, 2275. Decentralization-Development of Port­

land, 486. Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2685, 2727,

2987. Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia

(Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3469, 3745, 3746, 3747.

Geelong Waterworks and Sew.erage (Amendment) Bill, 624, 639.

Health (Amendment) Bill, 3450, 3548, 3809, 3811.

Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3107, 3111, 3113, 3177, 3181, 3182, 3450, 3461, 3466, 3851.

Health, Department of-Kindergartens and pre-school centr.es, 229, 1026. Sug­gested crematorium in Gippsland, 231. Incidence of tuberculosis, 360; compul­sory X-ray examinations, 360.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill, 1275, 1391, 1976, 1979, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1989.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Revenue from Tattersall consultations and totalizator funds, 231. Latrobe Valley Hospitals and Health Services Association, 455, 1027, 1272. Govern­ment grants to Spastic Children'S Society, Yooralla Hospital School for Crippled Children and Victorian Society for Crippled Children and Adults, 1147. Members of Commission, 1929. Care

Mack, Hon. R. W.-continued.

of the ag,ed, 1929. Means test for hos­pital treatment, 3156. Queen Elizabeth Home, Ballarat, 4048.

Kindergartens - Kindergarten and pre­school centres in Richmond, 229. Num­ber in Victoria, 1026. Staffing, 1026. Government grants, 1026. Training of teachers, 1026.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 264.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill, 3851, 3940, 3941, 4244.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2560, 2605, 2845, 2846, 2847, 2849.

Licensing Act-Royal Commission, 3158. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1297, 1407, 1739, 1740. Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur

Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4267.

Mental Health Authority-Payment of Commonwealth pensions to mental patients, 1031. Statement on drugs by Mont Park Mental Hospital pharmacist, 1146, 1374. Sheltered workshops and mental hospitals, 1374.

Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill, 625, 641.

National Parks Bill, 4046, 4053, 4221, 4222, 4232.

Opticians Registration (Fees and Penal­ties) Bill, 3114, 3165.

Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill, 2615, 2619.

Queen Elizabeth Home, Ballarat-Expen­diture on capital works and main­tenance, 4048.

Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill, 4046, 4052, 4231.

Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2430, 2483. Scientologists-Activities, 2140. Scientology Restriction Bill, 2968, 3371. Sewerage Districts Bill, 625, 817, 1297. Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill,

The, 1842, 1951. Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1307, 1654,

1950. Stamps (Exemptions) Bill, 3657, 3745. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Acquisition of land at Mount Eliza, 1633.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill, 808, 819, 1314.

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Mack, Hon. R. W.-continued. Water Bill, 1538, 1722, 1948. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1188,

1288,2247. Wool Sales-At Portland, 486.

Maiella Construction Company Pty. Ltd. (See "Railway Department-Stations -Rebuilding of Spencer-street sta­tion.")

Mair, Hon. W. P. (South-Eastern Province). Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral-

ized Industries) Bill, 2542. Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 2264. Litter Bill, 4249. Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2827, 2836.

Mansell, Hon. A. R. (North-Western Pro­vince) .

Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill, 2836.

Agriculture, Department of-Experi-mental and research centres, 809, 1023. Research into fruit, vegetables and tobacco industries, 2475, 2675.

Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3618, 3619. Death-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 9. Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 3961, 3966. Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 652. Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill,

839. River Murray Waters Bill, 2408. River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes

Storage) Bill, 2401. Rural Finance and Settlement Commis-

sion-Conditions at Robinvale, 1272. Sewerage Districts Bill, 1295. Stamps (Exemptions) Bill, 3818. Standard Insurance Company Limited

(Amendment) Bill, 2222. Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2825, 2835. Water Supply Loan Application Bill,

2250.

Maribyrnong River Bridge. (See" Country Roads Board.")

Marine Board-Pilot exemption for tanker, 3010.

Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2721; second reading, 2724, 2969; Committee, 2977; remain­ing stages, 2981.

Markets. (See" Local Government Depart­ment" and" Queen Victoria Market.")

Maryborough. (See "Decentralization.")

Maryborough Free Library and Literary Institute Bill-Received from Assembly, 3469; declared a private Bill, 3469; motion that Bill be dealt with as pub­lic Bill agreed to, 3470; first reading, 3470; second reading, 3555, 3813; re­maining stages, 3814.

May, Hon. R. W. (Gippsland Province).

Address-in-Reply, 1186. Agriculture, Department of-Tractor

testing station at Werribee, 1186. Re­search stations, 1186.

Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2822. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill,

2697. Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill, 2860. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­

ized Industries) Bill, 2534. Consolidated Revenue Bill, .502, 507. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4094,

4117, 4119. Dairying Industry-Payments by butter

factories on behalf of dairy farmers to governmental authorities, 4095. Charges for checking of bulk milk refrigerator vats, 4096.

Decentralization Employment for females in Latrobe Valley, 1187, 4117, 4119. Sawmilling as approved decen­tralized industry, 3271. Suggested country offices of Motor Registration Branch, 4117. Establishment of

. regional branches of Titles Office, 4119. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2074, 2078. Education Department-Insurance and

replacement of equipment supplied by mothers' clubs, 625. Need for girls' technical school in Latrobe Valley, 1187, 1605. Foster High School, 3277.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2984. Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1293. Firearms-Use on Sundays, 3282. Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill,

3949.

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May, Hon. R. W.-continued.

Fisheries and Wildlife Department-De­struction of European carp, 361, 3277, 4097.

Forests Commission-Destruction of sirex wasp, 3368, 3802.

Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill, 3289. Hairdressing-Training of ladies' hair­

dressers, 4094, 4117. Travel conces­sions for trainees, 4094. Hostel for country trainees, 4095. Coverage of trainees by Hospital Benefits Associa­tion, 4095.

Health, Department of-Suggested crematorium in Gippsland, 231.

Hospital Benefits Association-Coverage of trainee hairdressers, 4095.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Members, 1929. Care of the aged, 1929.

Housing-Finance for erection of houses on farms, 502.

Inland Killing-Investigation by com­mittee, 808.

Jack Smith's Lake-Departmental file, 3278.

Kindergartens-Number in Victoria, 1026. Staffing, 1026. Government grants, 1026. Training of teachers, 1026.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 275.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill, 4244.

Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Lessees, 3801. Rural production, 3801.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 2256. Milk Supply-Certification of bulk milk

vats, 2057, 2603, 4096. Motor Registration Branch-Establish­

ment of country offices, 4117. Municipalities-Provision of social ser­

vices, 1186. Maintenance of public halls, 1187.

Personal Explanation-Source of informa­tion, 3802.

Police Department-Gippsland regional headquarters, 4117.

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2062. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4204. Railway Department-Lighting of country

stations, 507. Installation of telephones at country stations, 508. Suggested building of underground stations at Moe and Morwell, 1188. Travel con­cessions for trainee hairdressers, 4094.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 2693. Raising of School Leaving Age (Con­

sequential Amendments) Bill, 2231.

May, Hon. R. W.-continued.

Rural Finance, and Settlement Commis­sion-Finance for erection of homes on farms, 503.

Sawmilling Industry-Cartage of timber, 4096.

State Development-Use of local and im­ported fuels and operations of oil com­panies, 1517.

State Electricity Commission-Establish­ment of town of Hazelwood, 1187.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Drainage and irrigation works at Dutson Springs, 229.

Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, 4245.

Titles Office-Establishment of regional branches, 4119.

Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 3848.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill, 1309.

Water Bill, 1948. Weights and Measures Branch-Charges

for checking of bulk milk refrigerator vats, 4096. Supply of petrol in 44-gallon drums, 4097.

McArthur, Sir Gordon (South-Western Pro-vince). (See "President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur) .")

Meat Industry-Inspection of meat for ex­port and local consumption, 4126, 4130. (See also "Inland Killing.")

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Finance for road works, 475. Flooding in North Coburg, (qn.) 811. Publication and distribution of docu­ment, (qn.) 1024, 1177. Constitution, 1177. St. Kilda junction proposals, (qn.) 1373. Cost of St. Kilda junction roundabout, (qn.) 1373. South-Eastern Freeway, 1412, (qn.) 3158, (qn.) 3369. Metropolitan planning boundaries, (qn.) 2385. Master plan, (qn.) 2386, 4061, 4068. Acquisition of properties, (qns.) 3158, 3369, 3711. Water main in Nicholson-street, East Coburg, 4100. (See also "St. Kilda Foreshore.")

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Elimination of certain compul­sory bus and tram stops, (qn.) 627, 660. Conductors and conductresses, (qn.) 628, 2005. Personal assistant to deputy

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chairman, (qn.) 1274, 2006. Working conditions of traffic employees, 2005. Fare concessions, 2006. Provision of toilet facilities, (qn.) 2219.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Development of port, 2003. Port Gellibrand reclamation scheme, (qn.) 337l. Disallowance of statutory rule, 4048. Gellibrand light­house, 4093. (See also "Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill.")

Members-New members introduced and sworn: Mr. Knight for Melbourne West Province, 7; Mr. Campbell for East Yarra Province, 3156. Leave of absence for Sir Arthur Warner, 11. Retirement of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 426l.

Mental Health Authority-Payment of Commonwealth pensions to mental patients, (qn.) 1031, 2349, 4128. State­ment on drugs by Mont Park Mental Hospital pharmacist, (qn.) 1146, 1374. New mental hospitals and sheltered workshop, (qn.) 1374, 1860. Provision of funds by Commonwealth Government, 2348. Accommodation for mentally ill, 4079.

Merrifield, Hon. Samuel (Doutta Galla Province).

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill, 3389.

Appropriation Bill, 3003. Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands

Exchange Bill, 3567. City of Melbourne Underground Railway

Construction Bill, 2996. Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the

Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3015.

Close of Sessional Period, 3020. Companies-Failure of Reid Murray

group, 3004. Activities of companies, 374l. Take-overs, 4118.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 473. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.2), 2347. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4055,

4117, 4119, 4122, 4124.

Merrifield, Hon. Samuel-continued.

Country Roads Board-Tullarmarine free­way, 415, 4123. Strathmore freeway, 475, 4123. Duplication of Nepean High­way, 4120. Maribyrnong river bridge linking Maribyrnong with Avondale Heights, 4123.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 2715.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 2260, 2271, 2273, 2274.

Decen tralization-Implemen ta tion of recom­mendations of Distribution of Popu­lation Committee, 475, 4059. En­couragement by municipalities, 4125.

Education Department-Annual expendi­tur.e, 477, 4057. Provision of amenities by parents, 478. School buildings, 2348. Lectures by Victorian Teachers Union, 3709. School uniforms, 3710.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 298l. Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia

(Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3746.

Foreshores-Protection, 4120. Forests Commission-Destruction of pine

trees on Macclesfield property, 4125. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3458, 3460,

3465. Hospitals and Charities (Amendment)

Bm, 1988. Housing-Percentage of home ownership,

476. Provision of finance, 477. Kings Bridge-Request for files, 70, 71, 78,

83. Report of Royal Commission, 254, 3004.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill. 3548.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2838, 2846, 2848.

Loan Funds-Use for revenue purposes. 478,4056.

Local Government-Report of Commis­sion of Inquiry, 4060.

Local Government Department-Permits for super-markets and drive-in centres, 4118. Minister's overriding powers, 4124.

Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree Gully) Bill, 484.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Finance for roadworks, 475. St. Kilda junction proposals, 1373. Cost of St. Kilda junction roundabout, 1373.

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Merrifield, Hon. Samuel-continued.

Mental Health Authority-Provision of funds by Commonwealth Government, 2348. Payment of Commonwealth pen­sions to mental patients, 2349.

Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Prac­tices-Commonw,ealth proposals, 474. Government policy, 4059. Company take-overs, 4117. Legislative action, 4119.

Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill, 4227, 4229.

Municipalities-Expenditure on roads, 3006. Provision of social services, 3006.

National Parks Bill, 4219. Parklands-Protection, 4119. Petrol and Diesel Oil Tax-Allocations to

States, 476. Police Department-Strength of Force,

3006, 4057. Port Phillip Bay-Foreshore recreational

areas, 4120. Public and Recreational Lands Bill, 1384. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4207. Public Works Committee-Inquiry into

metropolitan water supply, 4057. Public Works Department - Oncost

charges for design, supervision and ad­ministration, 2348, 4056.

Public Works Loan Application Bill. 2412, 2423, 2428, 2429.

Quarries-Increased prices for road­making materials, 474.

Railway Department-Unmanned stations, 300.5, 4057. Shortage of staff; 4057.

River Murray Waters Bill, 2404. , River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes

Storage) Bill, 2400. ,Road Traffic-Construction of freeways,

475. Secondary Industries-Government assis­

tance, 4059. State Dev,elopment-Use of local and im­

ported fuels and operations of oil com­panies, 1533.

State Electricity Commission-Ministerial control, 4060.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 826. State Library-Australian section, 3368. State Projects-Naming of, 4058. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1616, 1944.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Rill (No.2), 3568.

Unemployment-Federal grant, 2347, 4057.

Merrifield, Hon. Samuel-continued.

Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 3840.

Water-Inquiry into metropolitan water supply, 4057.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­tion of Land) Bill, 3387, 3470, 3491.

Wodonga Sewerage Trust-Finance, 2793. Workers Compensation-Increased pay­

ments, 3005.

Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board-Equip­ment and services, 4090.

Metropolitan Transportation Committee. (See "Road Traffic.")

Mibus, M.L.A., The Late Hon. W. J.­Resolution placing on record deep regret of House at death, 3793. Adjourn­ment of House as mark of respect, 3796.

Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill­Received from Assembly and first r.ead­ing, 625; second reading, 641, 839; re­maining stages, 841.

Milk Board-Consumption of milk in metro­politan area, (qn.) 813. Pasteurization licences, (qn.) 813. Dairy groups, (qn.) 813. Certification of bulk milk vats, (qn.) 2057, (qn.) 2603, 4096. Milk shop licences, (qn.) 2124. Num­ber of inspectors, (qn.) 2124.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 1946; second reading, i967, 2253; Committee, 2258; remaining stages, 2259.

Minerals. (See " Underseas Mineral Resources Bill.")

Mobil Oil Australia Proprietary Limited­Development of land in Port Mel­bourne, (qn.) 812, 2004.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill­Received from Assembly and first read­ing, 3851; second reading, 3852, 3968; Committee, 3971; remaining stages, 3980.

Money on Trust-Amounts held by Supreme and County courts, Workers Com­pensation Board and Public Trustee, (qn.) 362, 1998.

Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Prac­tices-Commonwealth proposals, 474. Government policy, 4059. Legislative action, 4114, 4119. Company take­overs, 4117.

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Mornington Peninsula-Preservation of tea­tree, 4120. Fire hazard in foreshore camping areas, 4120.

Mothers' Clubs-Funds raised, (qn.) 3536.

Motions for Adjournment of the House to Enable Members to Discuss Public Questions-Failure of Government to table files relating to Kings Bridge, 74. Use of local and imported fuels and methods and operations of oil com­panies, 1504. Acquisition by State Rivers and Water Supply Commission of land at Mount Eliza, 1606. Com­pensation of Mount Eliza landowners affected by construction of service reservoir, 1931. Activities of scientologists, 2127. Activities of com­panies, 3713.

Motor Boating Act-Registration of small boats, (qn.) 1273. Inspection, search and rescue provisions, (qn.) 1273, 1862. Enforcement of regulations, 1862. Police Motor Boating Squad, (qn.) 3369, 3448, (qn.) 3616, (qn.) 3801. Licences issued, (qn.) 3446, 4103. Fees collected, (qn.) 3446, 4103. Improved facilities, (qn.) 3446, 4103. Prosecu­tions, (qn.) 3937, 4104. Prescription of safety devices, (qn.) 3937, 4104. Launching ramps, (qn.) 3937, 4103. Payment of subsidies, (qn.) 3937.

Motor Car Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1842; second read­ing, 1954, 2699; Committee, 2706; re­maining stages, 2709.

Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill -Received from Assembly and first reading, 4046; second reading, 4086, 4227; Committee, 4228; remaining stages, 4229.

Motor Registration Branch-New offices in Carlton, (qn.) 1842, 1860. Faulty registration labels, (qn.) 3160. Estab­lishment of country offices, 4117.

Motor Vehicles-Registration and revenue, (qns.) 232, 1501. Driving licences issued and revenue therefrom, ( qn.) 1930. Safety belts in motor vehicles, (qns.) 3533, 3709. Sale of second­hand vehicles to unlicensed drivers, (qn.) 3616. (See also "Road Accidents," "Road Traffic" and "Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill.")

Mount Buffalo National Park-Administra­tion of chalet, 513, (qn.) 812. Estab­lishment of motel-hotel, (qn.) 812, 1172.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir. (See" State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion.")

Municipalities-Street untidiness, 35. Government subsidies for social ser­vices, 504. Land valuations, (qn.) 1027. Provision of social services, 1186, 1412, 3006. Maintenance of pub­lic halls, 1187. Provision of land for housing, 1413. Expenditure on roads, 3006. Garbage tips and destructors in metropolitan area, (qn.) 3279. Damage to roads in Williamstown, (qn.) 3371. Rates, (qn.) 3535, 4074, 4093. Toilet facilities for Sydney-road, Coburg, shoppers, 4099. Road construction costs, 4100. Acquisition of railway land in Benalla, 4105. (See also" De­partment of Health," "Health (Amend­ment) Bill," " Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill," "Litter Bill" "Local Government," "Local Government (Amendment) Bill," "Local Government Department" and" Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree Gully) Bill.")

N.

National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre­Construction, 1860.

National Parks Authority-Financial pro­vision, 381, 1172. Activities, 1172. Suggested reconstitution, 1173. Co­operation with committees of manage­ment, 1173. (See also "Alpine Re­sorts Development Advisory Com­mittee," "Mount Buffalo National Park" and "Wilson's Promontory.")

National Parks Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 4046; second reading, 4053, 4211; Committee, 4221, 4232; remaining stages, 4237.

Nicol, Hon. G. J. (Monash Province).

Address-in-Reply, 1175. Juvenile Delinquency-Establishment of

special courts, 1176. Pay-roll Tax-Amounts paid by

Government Departments and instru­mentalities, 2962.

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Nichol, Hon, G. J.-continued.

State Development-Use of local and im­ported fuels and operations of oil com­panies, 1528.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­tion of Land) Bill, 3485.

Notaries Public-Appointment and quali-fications, ( qn.) 365. (See also .. Evidence (Affidavits) Bill.")

Noxious Weeds. (See "Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill.")

O. O'Connell, Hon. G. J. (Melbourne Province).

Address-in-Reply, ' 1410. Betting-Prosecutions for illegal betting,

456. Bookmakers and Bookmakers' Clerks

Registration Committee - Members, 2603.

Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dis­mantling Bm, 2064.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 493, 504. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4087,

4124, 4132. Co-operative Housing Societies

(Guarantees) Bill, 1045. Education Department-Rental of halls,

1030. Free Library Service Board-Subsidies to

free library service groups, 1146. Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill, 3288. Health. Department of-Kindergarten

and pre-school centres in Richmond, 229.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Revenue from Tattersall consultations and totalizator funds, 231.

Housing-Co-operative housing societies, 4089. Survey by Brotherhood of St. Laurence, 4090. Proportion of incomes spent on rent, 4090.

Housing Commission-Darby and Joan and lone person units, 230, 1413. 4089. Charles Eyres Court estate, Richmond, 362. Dwelling units completed, sold and let, 362, 1412, 4089. Vacant units, 456. Applications for tenancies, 627, 1413, 4089. Provision of land by muni­cipalities, 1413. Rentals, 3271. Alloca­tion of funds by Commonwealth

O'Connell, Hon. G. J.-continued.

Government, 4089. Building of houses for rental, 4089. Slum reclamation in Richmond, 4090.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 645, 656, 2085.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 303.

Ladies' Benevolent Societies-Government grants, 1147.

Law Department--Court accommodation, 1412.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-South-Eastern Freeway, 1412, 3158, 3369. Acquisition of properties, 3158, 3369.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Disallowance of statutory rule, 4050.

Milk Board-Milk shop licences, 2124. Number of inspectors, 2124.

Motor Vehicles-Registrations and revenue, 232. Driving licences and revenue, 1930.

Municipalities-Government subsidies for social services, 504, 1412.

Police Department--Crimes of violence, 493. Strength of Force, 493, 1410. Renovation of police stations, 1412.

Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill, 4230, 4232.

Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2866. Railway Department-Unmanned sta­

tions, 625, 1412, 3274, 4087. Level crossings: At Green-street and Burnley-street, Richmond, 626; in metropolitan area, 810; at Madden­grove, Burnley, 4124. Maintenance of rolling-stock, 1412. East Richmond station, 3711. Lighting of stations, 4132.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 2693. Road Traffic-Traffic blitzes, 1372.

Traffic hazard at Madden-grove, Burnley, 4124.

Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1951. Subordinate Legislation Committee­

Reports presented: Meat Transport Vehicles Regulations, 2125; Melbourne Harbor Trust (Amendment) Regula­tions, 2794.

Tobacco Sellers-Registration, 3534, 3709. Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 2730. Totalizator Agency Board-Branches and

agencies, 3281. Salaries, 3281.

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Oil Companies-Real estate holdings, (qn.) 626. Methods and operations, 1504. Petrol retailers, 1866. (See also " Mobil Oil Australia Proprietary Limited" and "Shell Company of Aus­tralia Limited Bill, The.")

Oil Installations-Newport fire, 4090.

Olive Oil-Adulteration, 2002.

Opticians Registration (Fees and Penalties) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3114; second reading, 3165, 3388; remaining stages, 3389.

P. Packaged Goods-Report of Board of

Inquiry into standardization and marking, 3940.

Parklands-Protection, 4119, 4121. (See also "Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill," .. Foreshores," "National Parks Authority," "National Parks Bill" and .. Public and Recreational Lands Bill.")

Parliament-Opening of session, 1. Public interest, 14, 4109. Prestige of Legis., lative Council, 382. Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah; Clerk of the Parlia­ments and Clerk of the Legislative Council, 3014. Appointment of Mr. L. G. McDonald as Clerk of the Legis­lative Council, 3102. Close of sessional periods, 3019, 4261. Maintenance of Parliament House, 4080. Legislative programme, 4107. Status of Victorian Parliament, 4108, 4114. Abolition of Legislative Council, 4108. Ministerial statements, 4108, 4110, 4113.

Pay-roll Tax. (See" Taxation.") Personal Explanations-By- Mr. Tripovich,

1930; by Mr. Swinburne, 2603; by Mr. May, 3802.

Petrol-Supply in 44-gallon drums, 4097. (See also "Taxation.")

Petrol Selling Stations-Conditions in industry, 1866.

Pine Trees. (See" Forests Commission.")

Police Department-Crime in Fitzroy, 489. Crimes of violence, 493. Strength of Force, 493, 1410, 3006, 4057, 4075, 4091. Criminal Investigation Branch for Williamstown, (qn.) 1374, 4076, 4091. Renovation of police stations, 1412. Appointment of Assistant Commis­sioners, 2001. Right of appeal in promotions, 2001. Case of Hudson v.

Police Department-continued.

Cain, 2349, 4100. Personnel at Ascot Vale, Broadmeadows, Essendon and Glenroy stations, (qn.) 3271. Search for Bendigo Gaol escapees, (qn.) 3443, (qn.) 4199. Footscray police station, (qn.) 3447, 3492, 4091, 4092. Footscray Criminal Investigation Branch, (qn.) 3447, 3492, 4076. Police recruits, (qn.) 3535, 4075. Deaths, retirements, resig­nations and dismissals, ( qn.) 3535. Authorized and actual strength, (qn.) 3535. Larrikinism in Footscray, 4076. Gippsland regional headquarters, 4117. (See also .. Motor Boating Act" and .. Superannuation Bill.")

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1274; second reading, 1399, 2057; Committee, 2060; remaining stages, 2062.

Police Offences (Animals) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3855; second reading, 3945, 4237; remaining stag,es, 4240.

Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill -Received from Assembly and first reading, 2630; second reading, 2679, 2864; remaining stages, 2866.

Portland. (See .. Decentralization" and "Wool Sales.")

Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2615; second reading, 2619, 2851; remaining stages, 2864.

Port Phillip Bay-Facilities for shipping, 467. Search and rescue operations, 1862. Dredging for scallops, (qn.) 3274. Alienation of foreshore land, (qn.) 3280. Foreshore recreational areas, 4120. (See also" St. Kilda Foreshore.")

President, Acting-Appointment of Mr. Garrett, 3793.

President of United States of America­Assassination, 2384, 3106.

President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur)­

Rulings and Statements 01-Address-in-Reply, 13; presentation, 3106. Assassination of President of United

States of America, 3106. Bills Declared Private-Local Government

(Shire of Fern Tree Gully) Bill, 479. Trustee Companies (The Perpetual

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President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur)­continued.

Executors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 808. The Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, 1842. The Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia (Victorian District) Bill, 3469. R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3469. Maryborough Free Library and Literary Institute Bill, 3469.

Chairmen of Committees, Temporary­Appointments, 10.

Clerk-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3018. Appointment of Mr. L. G. McDonald, 3102.

Close of Sessional Period, 3023. Consolidated Revenue Bills-Ambit of

second-reading debate, 479, 488. Deaths-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 9.

Sir Ewen Cameron, 3106. Debate-Member wishing to continue

speech later, 85. Relevancy of remarks, 87, 1039, 1530, 2531, 2850, 3168, 3290, 3479, 3482, 3564, 3652, 3734, 3742. Reference to debate in Assembly, 235, 1871. Interjections, 1517, 1520, 1870, 2229, 2526, 2541, 3169, 3299, 3731. Member quoting from document, 1533, 1869. Minister answering question during debate, 2169. Matters more ap­propriately discussed in Committee, 2280. Cross-examination of member making speech, 2507. Repetition of statements, 2525, 2532. Reference to behaviour of members, 2526. Inquiry into matters allied to Bill, 3113. Ambit of debate on motion for printing of Bill, 3114.

Kings Bridge - Ambit of debate on motion that report of Royal Commis­sion be considered on next day of meeting, 12. Allegation of Govern­ment pressure to force debate, 82, 83. Casting vote on amendment to motion that Council take note of report of Royal Commission, 310.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill­Ambit, 3536.

Members, New, Introduced and Sworn­Mr. Knight for Melbourne West Pro­vince, 7. Mr. Campbell for East Yarra Province, 3156.

Motions for Adjournment of House­Ambit of debate, 1505. Competency of motion, 1931, 1932, 3736, 3738.

President, The (Sir Gordon McArthur)­continued.

Private Bills-Payment of fees, 3746. Questions on Notice-Ministerial answers,

1027, 1148. Member seeking amplifica­tion of answer, 1274. Frivolous ques­tions, 3107.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-Res­toration to Notice Paper, 3449.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill-Clerical error corr:ected, 2125.

Scientology Restriction Bill-Restoration to Notice Paper, 3448.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Casting vote on motion for ad­journment of House to discuss acquisition of land at Mount Eliza, 1640.

Primary Industries-Marketing research, 379.

Printing Committee-Appointments, 11.

Prisons Division-Ballarat Gaol, (qn.) 625, (qn.) 1604, 4092. Bendigo Gaol escapees, (qn.) 3443, (qn.) 4199. Accommodation, 4080, 4092, 4106. Ex­tension of Beechworth Prison, 4106.

Probate Duty-Land valuations, (qn.) 1027.

Process Servers and Inquiry Agents (Quali­fication) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3107; second reading, 3108, 3182; Committee, 3184, 3857; remaining stages, 3858.

Public and Recreational Lands Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 11; second reading, 365, 1376; Committ~e, 1385.

Public Fidelity and Audit Limited-Report of inspector under Companies Act, 814.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill -Received from Assembly and first reading, 1842; second reading, 1964, 2227; Committee, 2228; remaining stages, 2229.

Public Service-Accommodation, 4080. (See also "Superannuation Bill.")

Public Service (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 4137; second reading, 4199; Committee, 4204; remaining stages, 4211.

Public Trustee-Moneys held on trust, (qn.) 362, 1998.

Public Works Committee-Inquiry into metropolitan water supply, 4057, 4071, 4073, 4082.

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Public Works Department-Oncost charges for design, supervision and administra­tion, 2348, (qn.) 2603, 2998, 4056. Ad­ministrative costs of Department, (qn.) 2603. Liaison with Education Depart­ment, 4062. Completion of contracts, 4092. Suggested bonding of contrac­tors, 4093. (See also "St. Kilda Fore­shore.")

Public Works Loan Application Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first r,eading, 1144; second reading, 1275, 2412; Com­mittee, 2423; remaining stages, 2430.

Q.

Quarries-Increased prices of road-making materials, 474.

Queen Elizabeth Home, Ballarat-Expendi­ture on capital works and maintenance, (qn.) 4048.

Queen Victoria Market-Proposed legisla­tion, 4078, 4135. Duplicate docket system, 4135.

Questions on Notice-Ministerial answers, 1027, 1148, 4113. Frivolous questions, 3107.

R.

Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 4046; second reading, 4052, 4230; Com­mittee, 4231; remaining stages, 4232.

Racing (Totalizators) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2430; second reading, 2483, 2866; remaining stages, 2869.

Railway Department­Administration-Decisions re off-peak and

Sunday services, (qn.) 3274. Country Lines-Derailments, (qn.) 454,

505, 515, (qn.) 3370. (See also" Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismantling BilL")

Emergencies-Shots fired at Overland express: Provision of alarm system for conductors, 3658.

Fares-Proposed increases, 510. Conces­sions to trainee hairdressers, 4094.

Freights-Wool rates, (qn.) 454. Proposed increases, 510.

Interstate Services-Refreshments on Overland express, 512.

Land-Effect of Sale of Land Act on dis­posal of unused land, 4105.

Railway Department-continued.

[ ... evel Crossings-Burnley-street, Rich­mond, (qn.) 626; Green-street, Rich­mond, (qn.) 626; in metropolitan area, (qn.) 810; Beaufort and Buangor, (qn.) 811; Puckle-street, Moonee Ponds, (qn.) 3159; Buckley-street, Essendon, (qn.) 3159; Madden-grove, Burnley, 4124.

Mount Buffalo Chalet-Administration, 513, (qn.) 812.

Permanent Way-Track maintenance, (qn.) 3533.

Refreshment Services-Buffet car services on Melbourne-Albury line, 4129. Reno­vation of Seymour refreshment rooms, 4130. Refreshments on Overland ex­press, 4132.

Rolling-stock-Harris trains, (qn.) 454, 1859, (qn.) 3276. Replacement of old carriages, 509. Maintenance of car­riages, 510, 1412. Allocation of trucks to Grain Elevators Board, (qn.) 2960. Overloading of trucks, ( qn.) 3370. Double-deck carriages, (qn.) 3533.

Staff-Unmanned stations, 510, (qn.) 625, 1412, 3005, (qn.) 3274, 4057, 4079, 4087, 4094, 4132. Track maintenance gangs, (qn.) 3533. Shortage of staff, 4057, 4079. Wages and conditions, 4079.

Standard Gauge Line-Stopping of trains at intermediate stations, 1175.

Stations-Rebuilding of Spencer-street station, 507, 508, (qn.) 1930, (qn.) 4047, (qn.) 4198, 4076. Lighting of stations, 507, 4132. Telephones at country stations, 508. Suggested building of underground stations at Moe and Mor­well, 1188. Newport station, (qn.) 1373, (qn.) 3711. Flinders-street, Princes Bridge and Camberwell projects, (qn.) 3370, (qn.) 3616, (qn.) 3711. East Rich­mond station, (qn.) 3711.

Suburban Lines-Newport-Sunshine loop line, (qn.) 1373, (qn.) 3711, 4093.

Tullamarine Jetport-Suggested direct rail service, (qn.) 361, (qn.) 2219.

Underground Railway-Values in rating area and method of financing, ( qn.) 70. Preliminary work, (qn.) 1929. Con­struction schedule, (qn.) 1929. (See also "City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill.")

Railway Lands Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3185; second reading, 3308, 3558; Committee, 3564; remaining stages, 3565.

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Railway Loan Application Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1501; second reading, 1655, 2623; Committee, 2630, 2691; remaining stages, 2696.

Railways (Financial Reports) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 625; second reading, 815, 1297; Committee, 1302, 1726; remaining stages, 1726.

Raising of School Leaving Age (Consequen­tial Amendments) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1844; second reading, 1953, 2230; Committee, 2232; remaining stages, 2233.

Real Estate. (See" Estate Agents (Amend­ment) Bill," "Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill," "Sale of Land Act" and "Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill.")

Recreation Reserves. (See" Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill" and "Public and Recreational Lands Bill.")

Reid Murray Group of Companies-Report of inspectors under Companies Act, 2678, 3004. Murray-Shaw report, (qn.) 3274. (See also" Companies Act.")

Rents. (See" Housing Commission.")

Residence Area Titles-Lending by State Savings Bank, (qn.) 364. Joint tenancies and tenancies in common, (qn.) 1024. Probate duties, (qn.) 1024. Number in Victoria, (qn.) 1147, 1999. Applica­tions for freeholds, (qn.) 1147, 2000. Purchase by Education Department, 4047.

Revocation and Excision of Crown Reserva­tions Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3270; second reading, 3377, 3565; Committee, 3566; remaining stages, 3567.

River Murray Waters Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2085; second reading, 2171, 2403; Committee and re­maining stages, 2411.

River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes Storage) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2007; second reading, 2169, 2400; remaining stages, 2403.

Road Accidents-Fatalities, (qn.) 229. Charges, convictions and penalties, (qn.) 229. Breathalyzer tests, (qn.) 230. Fatalities involving semi-trailers, (qn.) 3447. Safety belts in motor vehicles, (qns.) 3533, 3709. Accidents at junc­tion of Goulburn Valley and Hume Highways, (qn.) 3938.

4567/64.-2

Road-making Materials-Increased prices, 474.

Roads. (See "Country Roads Board," "Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works" and "Municipalities.")

Road Traffic-Construction of freeways, 470, 475. Survey of metropolitan traffic, (qn.) 1372, (qn.) 1605, 1861. Traffic blitzes, (qn.) 1372. Metropolitan prob­lems, 4061. Need for State-wide plan, 4061. Standardization of traffic signs, 4091. Hazard at Madden-grove, Burnley, 4124. (See also "Motor Vehicles.")

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2219; second reading, 2489, 2849; second-reading motion negatived, 2858. Bill restored to NotiCe Paper, 3449. Further motion "That this Bill be now read a second tIme," 3622, 4256.

Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology­Pass rate in first year law course, (qn.) 1032.

Royalty-Visits to Victoria, 14. Message of congratulations on birth of Royal Prince, 3156.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill-Received from Assembly, 3469; declared a private Bill, 3469; motion that Bill be dealt with as public Bill agreed to, 3469; first reading, 3469; second reading, 3551, 3630; Com­mittee, 3634; remaining stages, 3635.

Rural Finance and Settlement Commission -Finance for erection of homes on farms, 503. Conditions at Robinvale, (qn.) 1272.

S. Sale of Land Act-Effect in country dis­

tricts, 4105. (See also "Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants) Bill.")

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 1033; second read­ing, 1062, 1291; third reading, 1292. Assembly amendments dealt with, 1856. Clerical error corrected, 2125.

Salesmen. (See" Door to Door (Sales) Bill.")

Sawmilling Industry-Approval as decen­tralized industry, (qn.) 3271. Cartage of timber, 4096.

Scallops-Dredging in Port Phillip Bay. (qn.) 3274.

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School Committees. (See" Education De- Smith, Hon. Arthur-continued. partment.")

Scientologists-Activities, (qn.) 1033, 1179, 2127, 2322, 2342, (qn.) 2678.

Scientology Restriction Bill-Introduction and first reading, 2386; second reading, 2519, 2968, 3371, 3448.

Secondary Industries-Number of overseas firms established in Australia, 1865. Government assistance, 4059. (See also " Decentralization.")

Sewerage-Wodonga Sewerage Trust, (qn.) 2793. Expenditure on country sewerage works, 4134. (See also "Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage (Amend­ment) Bill" and "Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisition of Land) Bill.")

Sewerage Districts Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 625; second reading, 817, 1295; Committee and re­maining stages, 1297.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 4084; second reading, 4222; Committee, 4226; remaining stages, 4227.

Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, The-Received from Assembly, 1842; declared a private Bill, 1842; motion that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill, except in r,elation to the payment of fees agreed to, 1842; first reading, 1951; second reading, 1951, 2222; re­maining stages, 2222.

Shops. (See .. Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill.")

Sirex Wasp. (See" Forests Commission.")

Smith, Hon. Arthur (Bendigo Province).

Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill, 2836.

Appropriation Bill, 3007. Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the

Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3017.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral-ized Industries) Bill, 2550.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 492. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4069. Country Fire Authority-Suggested re-

constitution of Victorian Rural Fire Brigades Association, 492.

Education Department-Proposed exten­sion of term II. vacation, 1372. Oral school for deaf children at Bendigo, 4069.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1293. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill,

1657. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bil1

(No.2), 3300. Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 1990. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­

sion, 305. Local Gov.emment (Amendment) Bill,

1739. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2969. Maryborough Free Library and Literary

Institute Bill, 3813. Public Works Committee-Inquiry into

metropolitan water supply, 4071. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 2426. Road Accidents-Breathalyzer tests, 230.

Accidents at junction of Goulbum Valley and Hume highways, 3938.

Sewerage Districts Bill, 1295. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 4224. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Opening of Eppalock reservoir, 4071. Strathfieldsaye reticulation ser­vice, 4071.

State Service Concert Orchestra-Service to State, 3007.

Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill, 375. Universities - University college for

Ballarat, 4070. Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2825. V,ermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 1307. Water-Inquiry into metropolitan water

supply, 4071. Water Bill, 1946. Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill, 2223. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi-

tion of Land) Bill, 3384, 3490.

Social Welfare Branch-Family cottages at Ararat, 1996.

Softwoods. (See" Cathedral Valley Soft­woods Co-operative Ltd.")

Spastic Children. (See "Hospitals and Charities Commission.")

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Stamps (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1307; second r.eading, 1654, 1949; Committee, 1950; remaining stages, 1951.

Stamps (Exemptions) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3657; second reading, 3745, 3818; remaining stages, 3819.

Standard Insurance Company Limited (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1503; second reading, 1844, 2222; remaining stages, 2222.

Standing Orders Committee-Appointments, 10.

State Development-Seasonal employment in Geelong, 378. Use of local and im­ported fuels and methods and operations of oil companies, 1504. Comparison of industrial conditions in Victoria and New South Wales, 1865. Subsidies to Railway Department and industries, (qn.) 3710. Balance between metropolitan and country areas, 4060. (See also cc Decentraliza­tion.")

State Development Committee-Appoint­ment of Council members, 10.

State Electricity Commission-Develop­ment of brown coal fields, 1167. Effects of automation, 1168. Future of Yal­lourn, 1169. Establishment of town of Hazelwood, 1187. . Use of local and imported fuels, 1504. Hazelwood power station, 1858. Morwell power station, 1858. Engine drivers' and boiler attendants' certificates, (qn.) 3278. Ministerial control, 4060. (See also cc Electrical Undertakings Bill.")

State Forests Loan Application Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 624; second r,eading, 631, 826; Commit­tee, 836; remaining stages, 839.

State Insurance Funds Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2253; second reading, 2327, 2411; remaining stages, 2412.

State Library-Australian section, (qn.) 3368.

State Projects-Naming of, 4058.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-

Administration-File relating to Mr. R. F. Freshwater, of Kilmany, (qn.) 229. Overseas trips by officials and wives, 3007, 3012, 3014. Annual report, 3011, 3012, 3013.

Coliban System-Channels, use of water, and loss by seepage, (qn.) 3937.

Eppalock Reservoir-Official opening, 4071.

Irrigation-Dutson Springs drainage and irrigation works, (qn.) 229. Goulburn­Murray Irrigation District, (qns.) 3158, 3159. Damming of Thomson river, 4082.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Acquisi­tion of land and compensation of pro­perty owners, 1538, 1606, 1743, 1931, (qn.) 4048, 4077.

Water Supplies-Dev,elopment of Lerder­derg river, 19. Buffalo river and Lake Bellfield storages, 1858. Strathfieldsaye reticulation service, 4071.

(See also "Jack Smith's Lake," "River Murray Waters Bill," cc River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes Storage) Bill," "Water Bill " and" Water Supply Loan Application Bill.")

State Savings Bank-Lending on residence area titles, (qn.) 364.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill­Received from Assembly and first read­ing, 20; second reading, 20; remaining stages, 26.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill (No. 2)-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2253; second reading, 2323, 2621; remaining stages, 2623.

S'tate Service Concert Orchestra-Service to State, 3007.

Statute Law Revision Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1844; second reading, 1854; Bill referr.ed to Statute Law Re­vision Committee, 1856; report presen­ted, 2125; second reading debate resumed, 2259, 2343; Committee, 2343; remaining stages, 2344.

Statute Law Revision Bill (No. 2)-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading. 3857; second reading. 3942, 4242; re­maining stages, 4242.

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Statute Law Revision Committee-Appoint­ment of Council members, 10, 3107. Reports presented: Workers Compensa­tion Act 1958, 630; Police Offences Bill, 1640; Show-cause Summonses and Subpoenas, 1843; Statute Law Revision Bill, 2125; Estate Agents Acts, 2323; Public Lands and Works Bill 1963, 2483; Wrongs Act, 2678; Restrictive Covenants, 3107; Evidence Act, 3107; Disposal of Uncollected Goods Act, 3107; Police Offences (Further Amend­ment) Bill, 1963, 3449; Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 3803; Sale of Land Act, 3940. Statement by Premier, 3803.

St. Kilda Foreshore-Nuisance caused by offensive odour, 33, (qn.) 629, 3009, 3014.

St. Kilda Junction. (See" Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works.")

Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 11; second reading, 27, 375; Committee and re­maining stages, 377.

Strathmore Freeway. (See" Country Roads Board.")

Street Untidiness-Remedial measures, 35. (See also" Litter Bill.")

Subordinate Legislation-Disallowance of Melbourne Harbor Trust statutory rule, 4048.

Subordinate Legislation Committee-Appointment of Council members, 10. Reports presented: Meat Transport Vehicles Regulations, 2125; Melbourne Harbor Trust (Amendment) Regula­tions, 2794; Transport (Protective Devices) Regulations, 3712; Witnesses and Interpreters Allowances Order, 3712; Coroners (Medical Expenses) Regulations, 3712; Melbourne Harbor Trust Regulations, 3952; General Re­port, 4048.

Suncoast Land, Queensland, (qn.) 3271.

Superannuation Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2430; second reading, 2498, 2797; Committee, 2799; remaining stages, 2801.

Supreme Court-Report of Judges for year 1962, 12. Money held on trust, (qn.) 362.

Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges) Bill -Introduction and first reading, 3107; second reading, 3109, 3649; Committee, 3655, 3853; remaining stages, 3854.

Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) BiII­Introduction and first reading, 12; second ~eading, 88, 642; Committee, 644; remaining stages, 645.

Swinburne, Hon. I. A. (North-Eastern Pro­vince).

Address-in-Reply, 1171. Alpine Resorts Development Advisory

Committee-Activities, 3007. Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3621. Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2823. Appropriation Bill, 3007.

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3018.

Colac to Weeaproinah Railways' Dismant­ling Bill, 2068.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized Industries) Bill, 2552.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 480. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.2), 2998. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4060,

4129. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3295. Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2992. Co-operative Housing Societies (Guaran­

tees) Bill, 1047, 1060. Country Roads Board-Proposed new

tourist roads, 4067. Decentralization-Development of Port­

land, 481. Importance of housing, 482, 4066.

Education Department-Liaison with Pub­lic Works Department, 4061. Advice to members of Parliament, 4062. Subsi­dized school bus services, 4063.

Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 1729. Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust)

Bill, 3637, 3641. Hospitals and Charities (Amendment)

Bill, 1972, 1981, 1984, 1987. Housing-Provision of finance, 483. Sur­

vey by Brotherhood of St. Laurence, 4063, 4064. Co-operative . housing societies, 4064.

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Swinburne, Hon. I. A.-continued.

Housing Advances and Loans (Improper Commissions) Bill, 3954.

Housing Commission-Applications for tenancies, 483, 4065. Number of houses built in country areas, 1025, 4065. Number of houses erected, 3712, 4063, 4066. Expenditure on slum reclamation and other projects, 3712, 4064. Dwellings erected for rental, 4064. Sale of homes, 4064. Emergency housing, 4065. Definition of metro­politan area, 4065.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 647, 655.

Judges' Pensions Bill, 2604. Kindergartens-Governmen t financial

assistance, 1174. Establishment in country towns, 1174. Training of teachers, 1174.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 294.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 2809, 2813.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 1742, 1743, 2063. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1738. Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree

Gully) Bill, 485. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2969, 2978. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Finance for metropolitan planning scheme, 4061.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Disallowance of statutory rule, 4048.

Members-Retirement of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4268.

Motor Car Bill, 2700, 2707, 2709. Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill,

4228. Mount Buffalo National Park-Develop­

ment, 1172. National Parks Authority-Activities,

1172. Financial provision, 1172. Co­operation with committees of manage­ment, 1173. Suggested reconstitution, 1173.

National Parks Bill, 4214. Opticians Registration (Fees and

Penalties) Bill, 3389. Personal Explanation-Newspaper report,

2603.

Swinburne, Hon. I. A.-continued.

Public Works Department-Oncost charges for design, supervision and administration, 2603, 2998. Adminis­trative costs of Department, 2603. Liaison with Education Department, 4062.

Railway Department-Trains on standard gauge lines stopping at intermediate stations, 1175. Buffet car services on Melbourne-Albury line, 4129. Renova­tion of Seymour refreshment rooms, 4130.

Road Traffic-Metropolitan problems, 4061. Need for State-wide plan, 4061.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2853, 3630, 4258.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill, 4224.

Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1950. State Development-Subsidies to Railway

Department an<;l industries, 3710. Balance between metropolitan and country areas, 4060.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1629.

Statute Law Revision Bill, 2343. Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill, 376. Subordinate Legislation Committee-Re-

ports presented: Transport (Protective Devices) Regulations, 3712; Witnesses and Interpreters Allowances Order, 3712; Coroners (Medical Expenses) Regulations, 3712; Melbourne Harbor Trust Regulations, 3952; General Re­port, 4048.

Superannuation Bill, 2798. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, 4245. Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 2732. Tourist Development Authority-

Activities, 1173. Financial provision, 1173. Provision of road links, 4067.

Wilson's Promontory National Park-De­velopment, 1172.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­tion of Land) Bill, 3483.

T. Tattersall Consultations-Payments to hos­

pitals and charitable institutions, (qn.) 231.

Taxation-Land Tax--Objections against land valua­

tions, (qn.) 1027. (See also "Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill.")

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Taxation-continued. Pay-roll Tax-Amounts paid by Govern­

ment Departments and instrumentali­ties, (qn.) 2962, 4122.

Petrol and Diesel Oil Tax-Allocation to States, 476.

Taxi-cabs. (See .. Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill.")

Teaching Service (Amendment) Blll­Received from Assembly and first read­ing, 3851; second reading, 3854, 4245; Committee, 4245; remaining stages, 4246.

Testro Bros. Group of Companies-Report of inspector under Companies Act, 1843.

Thorn, Hon. G. W. (South-Western Pro­vince) .

Acts of Parliament-Drafting in simple language, 381.

Address-in-Reply, 378. Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­

ling Bill, 2070. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­

ized Industries) Bill, 2537. Companies Act-Activities of companies,

3743. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill,

2336. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3292. Country Roads Board-New techniques

of road construction, 382. Death-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 382. Decentralization-Establishment of in­

dustries in country districts, 380. Education-Ramsay report on tertiary

education, 379. Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage

(Amendment) Bill, 825. Governor, His Excellency Major-General

Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Service to State, 378.

Home Finance Trust (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill, 3639.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill, 1975, 1979.

Housing-Extent of home ownership, 379. Financial provision, 379.

Housing Commission-Modernizing of slum terraces, 379.

National Parks Authority-Financial pro­VISIon, 381.

National Parks Bill, 4213, 4236.

Thom, Hon. G. W.-continued. Parliament-Legislative Council debates,

382. Primary Industries-Marketing research,

379. State Development-Seasonal employ­

ment in Geelong, 378. Tourist Development Authority-Promo­

tion of tourism, 382.

Thompson, Hon. L. H. S. (Higinbotham Province) .

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill, 3156, 3282, 3391, 4261.

Business of the House-Hours of meeting, 2630.

Cathedral Valley Softwoods Co-operative Limited-Sale of covenants, 364.

City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill, 2696, 2796.

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3017.

Companies Act-Activities of companies, 3741.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 499. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4136. Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2126,

2220, 2614. Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2710, 2721, 2994. Co-operative Housing Societies

(Guarantees) Bill, 624, 814, 1056, 1061, 1062.

Death-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A., 3795.

Decentralization-Importance of housing, 4137.

Education Department-Buckley Park High School site, 1145.

Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill, 11, 29.

Forests-Planting of softwoods and native timbers, 68.

Forests Commission-Pine plantings at Koetong, 361. Employment of prisoners, 361. Sirex wasp, 3278, 3369. Destruction of pine trees on Maccles­field property, 4136.

Governor's Salary Bill, 1410, 1538. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 624,

818, 1731, 1735. Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust)

Bill, 3469, 3557, 3640, 3641.

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Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued.

Housing-Request by conference of Hous­ing Ministers for inquiry into housing requirements, 233. Purchase of homes on small deposits, 499. Building and Allied Trades Federation budget home, 500. Extent of home ownership, 501.

Housing Advances and Loans (Improper Commissions) Bill, 3745, 3803, 3955.

Housing Commission-Darby and Joan and lone person units, 230, 3272, 4136. Applications under Housing (Contracts with Minors) Act, 231. Charles Eyres Court estate, Richmond, 362. Dwelling units completed, sold and let, 362, 1931, 3160, 3712. Vacant dwellings, 456. Home Ownership Advisory Bureau, 501, 1717. Allocations in country areas, 501, 3160. Applications for tenancies, 627, 1604, 3160, 3272. Slum Reclama­tion: In South Melbourne, 627, 812; in Fitzroy, 811; in Carlton, 1842, 3534; in Williamstown, 4136; expenditure, 3712. Number of homes built in country areas, 1025, 4137. Buckley Park High School site, 1145. Acquisition and sale of land in Broad­meadows, 1273, 1503, 1665, 4047, 4136, 4198. Applications for purchase, 1604. Use of land for Motor Registration Branch and Transport Regulation Board, 1842. Sale and rental allocation policy, 3160. Contractors and standard of construction, 3160. Rentals, 3271. Agents and solicitors' fees on sale of homes, 3272. Survey of backlog of tenancy applications, 3272. Definition of metropolitan area, 4137.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 233, 374, 653, 659, 2085.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 249.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 2159, 2275, 2813, 2814, 2815, 2817.

Labour and Industry (Employment of Children) Bill, 2615, 2619.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, 3545.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 1307, 1407, 1742, 1743, 2063.

Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Applica­tions for land for tree planting, 69.

Lands Department-Land at Mount Warrenheip, 1144.

Thompson, Hon. L. H. S.-continued.

Members-Leave of absence for Sir Arthur Warner, 11. Retirement of Sir Arthur Warner, Mr. Walters and Mr. Fulton, 4268.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill, 3851, 3852, 3972, 3975, 3978.

Process Servers and Inquiry Agents (Qualification) Bill, 3107, 3108, 3184, 3857, 3858.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1842, 1964, 2228.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4137, 4199, 4206, 4208.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 2424.

Railway Lands Bill, 3185, 3308, 3564.

Raising of School Leaving Age (Con-sequential Amendments) Bill, 1844, 1953, 2232.

Revocation and Excision of Crown Reservations Bill, 3270, 3377, 3566.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3469, 3551, 3634.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 2125.

State Development-Use of local and im­ported fuels and operations of oil com~ panies, 1518.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 624, 631, 836.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 20.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill (No.2), 2253, 2323.

Statute Law Revision Bill, 1844, 1854, 1856, 2259, 2343, 2344.

Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 3857, 3942.

Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, 3851, 3854, 4245.

Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 1842, 1966.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill, 12, 3107.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill (No.2), 3270, 3388.

Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill, 2999.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 1604, 1725, 2399, 2995.

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Timber Industry-Cartage of sawn timber, 4096.

Titles Office-Issue of titles, 4105. Estab­lishment of regional branches, 4119.

Tobacco-Research work, (qns.) 2475, 2675. Registration of tobacco sellers, (qns.) 3534, ·3709. (See also "Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill.")

Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first read­ing, 1842; second reading, 1966, 2730; second-reading motion negatived, 2733.

Todd, Hon. Archibald (Melbourne West Province).

Address-in-Reply, 2000. Adoption of Children Bill, 3641, 3649,

3820, 3826, 3828, 3829. Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill,

96. Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3617, 3619, 3620. Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2818,

2823. Apprenticeship Commission-Staff, 2794. Appropriation Bill, 3009, 3012. Children's Welfare (Retainers) Bill" 2252. Companies Act-Activities of companies,

3721. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill,

2329, 2987. Consolidated Revenue Bill, 508. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4072,

4123, 4126, 4131. Country Roads Board-Maribyrnong

river bridge linking Maribyrnong with Avondale Heights, 4123.

Crimes (Aircraft) Bill, 1042. Death-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 8. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2073, 2079,

2080, 2081. Education (Adult Education) Bill, 4240. Education Department-Extensions to J.

H. Boyd Domestic College, 626. Appointment of bursars to secondary schools, 3710.

Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 3980. Evangelical Lutheran Church of Austra­

lia (Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3834.

Evidence (Affidavits) Bill, 89. Football Grounds-Exit gates, 4131. Government Departments and Instru-

mentalities-Reports to Parliament, 3013.

Todd, Hon. Archibald-continued.

Government Printing Office-Printing of departmental reports, 3013.

Health (Amendment) Bill, 3811. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3175, 3467. Health, Department of-Labelling of food-

stuffs, 2001. Adulteration of olive oil, 2002.

Hospitals and Charities Commission-In­stitutional care for elderly persons, 4079.

Housing Commission-Slum reclamation in South Melbourne, 627, 812. Darby and Joan and lone person units, 4072.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 649, 657.

Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill, 91.

Kings Bridge-Request for files, 72, 86. Report of Royal Commission, 270. Re­pairs, 4046, 4076.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 2811.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill, 3941, 4242.

Labour and Industry, Department of -Staff, 2794.

Labour and Industry (Employment of Children) Bill, 2860.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 1741. Licensing Act-Liquor trading hours, 4075.

Royal Commission, 4075. Litter Bill, 4253. Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree

Gully) Bill, 485~

Meat Industry-Inspection of meat for export and local consumption, 4126.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Elimination of compulsory bus and tram stops, 627, 660. Conductors and conductresses, 628, 2005. Personal assistant to deputy chairman, 1274, 2006. Concessional fares, 2006.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Development of port, 2003.

Mental Health Authority-Statement on drugs by Mont Park Mental Hospital pharmacist, 1146, 1375. Accommoda­tion for mentally ill, 4079. Common­wealth pensions for mental patients, 4128.

Milk Board-Consumption of milk in metropolitan area, 813. Pasteurization licences, 813. Dairy groups, 813.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 2253, 2259.

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Todd, Hon. Archibald-continued.

Mobil Oil Australia Proprietary Limited­Development of land in Port Melbourne, 812, 2004.

Municipalities-Rates, 3535, 4074. National Parks Bill, 4236. Parliament House-Maintenance of build­

ing, 4080. Police Department-Appointment of

Assistant Commissioners, 2001. Rights of appeal of policemen, 2001. Strength of Force, 4075. Height qualifications for recruits, 4075. Larrikinism in Foots­cray, 4076. Footscray Criminal Investi­gation Branch, 4076. Williamstown Criminal Investigation Branch, 4076.

Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 4237. Police Offences (Further Amendment)

Bill, 2864. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2861. Prisons Division-Accommodation, 4080. Process Servers and Inquiry Agents

(Qualification) Bill, 3182, 3184, 3857, 3858.

Public Service-Accommodation, 4080. Public Works Committee-Inquiry into

metropolitan water supply, 4073. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 2424,

2425. Queen Victoria Market-Proposed legisla­

tion, 4078. Railway Department-Spencer-street rail­

way station, 508, 4047, 4048, 4076, 4198. Replacement of old carriages, 509. Cleaning of carriages, 510. Freights and fares, 510. Unmanned SUburban sta­tions, 510, 4079. Off-peak and Sunday services, 3274. Harris trains, 3276. Shortage of staff, 4079. Wages and conditions, 4079.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 2691. Revocation and Excision of Crown

Reservations Bill, 3567. Road Accidents-Motor car fatalities, 229.

Charges, convictions and penalties, 229. Fatalities involving semi-trailers, 3447.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1069, 1291, 1292.

Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1949. State Development-Use of local and im­

ported fuels and operations of oil com­panies, 1515.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1623, 1940, 4048, 4077. Annual report, 3012.

Todd, Hon. Archibald-continued.

Statute Law Revision Committee-Re­ports presented: Workers Compensa­tion Act, 630; Police Offences Bill, 1640; Show-cause Summonses and Subpoenas, 1843; Statute Law Revision Bill, 2125; Estate Agents Acts, 2323; Public I.iands and Works Bill, 2483; Wrongs Act, 2678; Restrictive Covenants, 3107; Evidence Act, 3107; Disposal of Un­collected Goods Act, 3107; Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill, 1963, 3449; Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 3803; Sale of Land Act, 1962, 3940. Statement by Premier, 3803.

St. Kilda Foreshore-Nuisance caused by offensive odour, 33, 629, 3009.

Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill, 642.

Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Ex­ecutors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 1539.

University (Amendment) Bill, 2620. Water Supply-Inquiry into metropolitan

water supply, 4073. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2248. Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust)

Land Bill, 2395, 2995. Wills (Formal Validity) Bill, 3814. Yarra River-Lower Yarra crossing, 1373,

2002, 4078,

Totalizator Agency Board-Branches and agencies, (qn,) 3281. Staff salaries, (qn.) 3281. Castlemaine branch, (qn.) 3534.

Totalizators-Payments to hospitals and charitable institutions, (qn.) 231. (See also "Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill " and " Racing (Totalizators) Bill.")

Tourist (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2253; second reading, 2328, 2680; Committee and remaining stages, 2685.

Tourist Development Authority-Promotion of tourism, 382. Establishment of Government chalets, 513. Activities, 1173. Financial provision, 1173. Sub­sidies for boat launching facilities, (qn.) 3446. Provision of road links, 4067. (See also "Motor Boating Act.")

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Town and Country Planning Board-Metro­pOlitan boundaries, (qn.) 2385. Func­tions and powers, (qn.) 2385. (See also " Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works.")

Tractors-Tractor testing station at Werri-bee, 1186. Fatalities, (qn.) 1374. Driving licences, (qns.) 1717, 1843.

Trade Holidays-Review, (qn.) 3536. (See also "Labour and Industry (Amend­ment) Bill.")

Trading Stamps. (See" Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill.")

Traffic Commission - Standardization of traffic signs, 4091.

Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3450; second reading, 3552, 3747; re­maining stages, 3748.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill -Introduction and first reading, 12. Bill withdrawn, 3107.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill (No. 2)-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3270; second reading, 3388, 3568; remaining stages,· 3569.

Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill­Received from Assembly and first reading, 808; second reading, 1033, 1302; Committee, 1305; remaining stages, 1307.

Transport Regulation Board-New offices in Carlton, (qn.) 1842, 1860.

Trees. (See" Forests," "Forests Commis­sion" and "Land (Plantation Areas) Act.")

Trespass on Farms. (See" Police Offences (Amendment) Bill.")

Tripovich, Hon. J. M. (Doutta Galla Pro­vince).

Aborigines Welfare Board-Provision of homes, 456.

Address-in-Reply, 1857. Agriculture, Department of-Artificial

insemination of cattle, 1858. Appropriation Bill, 3008. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Amend­

ment) Bill, 1389. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decent­

ralized Industries) Bill, 2169, 2504, 2557, 2559.

Commonwealth Centre-New Melbourne offices, 1026.

Companies Act-Activities of companies, 3729.

Tripovich, Hon. J. M.--continued.

Consolidated Revenue Bill, 495, 501. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4110,

4122, 4124. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3297, 3376, 3377. Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2609,

2614. Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2988, 2994. Co-operative Housing Societies (Guaran­

tees) Bill, 1049, 1061. Coun try Roads Board-Tullamarine free­

way, 228, 231, 1871. Strathmore over­pass, 364, 1031, 4124. Strathmore free­way, 364, 1871.

Deaths-The Hon. Buckley Machin, 1857. Mr. Barclay, M.L.A., 1857. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, M.L.A., 3795.

Decentralization - Implementation of recommendations of Distribution of Population Committee, 363, 1605, 1864. Freight subsidies, 628. Road transport, 628. Establishment of industries in country districts, 1859.

Education Department-Telephones in State schools, 232. Training of teachers, 363. Expenditure on education, 363, 3008. Number of State schools and pupils, 363. New schools built in year 1962-63, 455. Announcement of results of school examinations, 627. Assembly halls, 809. Buckley Park High School, 1145. Contracts for construction of high schools, 1145. New high school for Prahran, 2125. Capacity of and student attendance at high and tech­nical schools in Doutta Galla and Southern provinces, 3939, 4113.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2986. Employment-Work force statistics, 1869.

Married women in industry, 1869. Equal Pay for the Sexes-Legislative

action, 4114. Essendon Airport-Noise from testing of

aircraft engines, 626. Forests-Planting of softwoods and

native timbers, 68. Forests Commission-Pine plantings at

Koetong, 361. Employment and pay­ment of prisoners, 361, 456.

Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3174, 3455, 3468.

Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 1727, 1733.

Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill, 3635, 3640.

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Tripovich, Hon. J. M.-continued.

Hospitals-Means test, 3156. Housing-Request by conference of State

Ministers for inquiry into housing requirements, 232, 233. Purchase of houses on small deposits, 496, 502. Home Finance Trust, 4111.

Housing Advances and Loans (Improper Commissions) Bill, 3953, 3955.

Housing Commission-Applications under Housing (Contracts with Minors) Act, 231. Acquisition and sale of land at Broadmeadows, 1273, 1503, 1664, 4047, 4110, 4198. Applications for tenancy and purchase, 1604, 3160. Home Ownership Advisory Bureau, 1717. Slum reclamation at Carlton, 1842, 1860, 3534. Use of land for Motor Registration Branch and Transport Regulation Board, 1842, 1860. Dwel­lings completed, sold and let, 1859, 1930, 3160. Allocations of houses in country areas, 3160. Policy on alloca­tion of homes for sale and rental, 3160, 4112. Contractors and standard of construction, 3160. Agents and solicitors' fees on sale of homes, 3271. Darby and Joan and lone person units, 3272. Sale price of homes, 4276.

Jetport-Direct rail service, 361, 2219. Kindergartens-Training of teachers,

1867, 3008. Financial provision, 1869. Kings Bridge-Request for files, 73.

Report of Royal Commission, 285. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

2802, 2814, 2817. Land (Plantation Areas) Act-Applica­

tions for land for tree planting, 69. Litter Bill, 4251. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Metropolitan boundaries, 2385. Master plan, 2386.

Mental Health Authority-Non-payment of Commonwealth pensions to mental patients, 1031. New mental hospitals and sheltered workshops, 1374, 1860.

Monash University (Amendment) Bili; 3979.

Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Prac­tices-Legislative action, 4114.

Motor Boating Act-Registration of small boats, 1273. Inspection, search and rescue provisions, 1273, 1862. Enforce­ment of regulations, 1862. Police Motor Boating Squad, 3369, 3616, 3801.

Motor Car Bill, 2699.

Tripovich, Hon. J. M.-continued.

Motor Vehicles-Country and metro­politan registrations, 1501. Safety belts in cars, 3533, 3709. Sale of second­hand vehicles to unlicensed drivers, 3616.

Mount Buffalo National Park-Adminis­tration of chalet, 812. Establishment of motel-hotel, 812.

National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre -Construction, 1860.

Parliament-Ministerial statements, 4110, 4113. Prestige, 4114.

Pay-roll Tax-Payment by State authori­ties, 4122.

Personal Explanation - Statement in debate, 1930.

Petrol Selling Stations-Conditions of retailers, 1866.

Police Department - Hooliganism at Essendon, 495. Personnel at Ascot Vale, Broadmeadows, Essendon and Glenroy stations, 3271. Police recruits, 3535. Deaths, retirements, resignations and dismissals, 3535. Authorized and actual strength of Force, 3535.

Prisons Division-Ballarat Gaol, 1604. Process Servers and Inquiry Agents

(Qualification) Bill, 3857. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4205,

4208. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 2426,

2428. Questions on Notice-Ministerial answers,

4113. Railway Department-Underground rail­

way, 70, 1929. Rail link between Melbourne and Tullamarine, 361, 2219. Wool freight charges, 454. Purchase of Harris trains, 454, 1859. Rebuilding of Spencer-street station, 1930. Level crossings at Puckle-street, Moonee Ponds and Buckley-street, Essendon, 3159. Double-deck carriages, 3533. Flinders-street, Princes Bridge and Camberwell projects, 3616, 3711.

Railway Lands Bill, 3558, 3564. Railway Loan Application Bill, 2623, 2695. Railways (Financial Reports) Bill, 1297,

1726. Road Traffic-Survey of metropolitan

traffic, 1372, 1605, 1861. Secondary Industries-Number of over­

seas firms established in Australia, 1865.

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State Development-Use of local and imported fuels and operations of oil companies, 1523. Comparison of in­dustrial conditions in Victoria and New South Wales, 1865.

State Electricity Commission-Hazelwood power station, 1858. Morwell power station, 1858.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Mount Eliza service reservoir, 1635. Lake Bellfield and Buffalo river storages, 1858.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 22. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill, 4245. Town and Country Planning Board-

Metropolitan boundaries, 2385. Func­tions and powers, 2385. Plan for City of Melbourne, 2386.

Trade Holidays-Review, 3536. Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill,

1302, 1307. Universities-Up-grading of technical

colleges in provincial cities, 629. Students admitted and refused admit­tance to faculties, 1272, 3802, 3938. Library grants, 4198.

University of Melbourne - Chemical engineering department, 1930, 2386.

Vandalism-Sensationalism in press, 496. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 1310. Victoria Promotion Committee-Govern­

ment grants, 1146. Establishment of decentralization fund, 1146. Balance­sheets and associated documents, 1718.

Wilson's Promontory National Park­Establishment of motel-hotel, 812.

Youth Organizations Assistance Fund­Grants in Doutta Galla Province, 1032.

Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Execu­tors and Trustees Association of Aus­tralia Limited) Bill-Received from Assembly, 808; declared a private Bill, 808; motion that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill agreed to, 808; first reading, 1160; second reading, 1160, 1539; Committee, 1540, 1740; remain­ing stages, 1741.

Tuberculosis. (See cc Department of Health.")

TuUamarine Freeway. (See cc Country Roads Board. ")

U. Underground Railway. (See" City of Mel­

bourne Underground Railway Con­struction Bill" and "Railway Depart­ment.")

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1843; second reading, 1851, 2233; Committee, 2237, 2607; remaining stages, 2609.

Unemployment-Federal grant, 2347, 4057.

Universities - Up-grading of technical colleges in provincial cities, (qn.) 629. Students admitted and refused admit­tance to faculties, ( qn.) 1272, (qn.) 3802, 3938. Grants to university colleges, (qn.) 3533. Siting of third university, (qn.) 3712, 4116. Library grants, (qn.) 4198. University college for Ballarat, 4070. (See also "Monash University (Amendment) Bill.")

University (Amendment) Bill- Received from Assembly and first reading, 2343; second reading, 2399, 2620; remaining stages, 2621.

University (Faculties) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3851; second reading, 3856, 4241; remaining stages, 4242.

University of Melbourne-Pass rate in first year law course, (qn.) 1032. Chemical engineering department, (qns.) 1930, 2368.

V. Valuation of Land (Amendment) Bill­

Introduction and first reading, 365; second reading, 1148, 2999, 3372, 3834.

Valuer-General's Department - Municipal valuations, (qn.) 1027. Employment of valuers, (qn.) 1027.

Vandalism-Effect of press sensationalism, 496.

Vegetables-Research work, (qn.) 2475, (qn.) 2675.

Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amendment) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 2275; second reading, 2324, 2825; Committee, 2832; remaining stages, 2836.

Vending Machines. (See" Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill.")

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill -Received from Assembly and first reading, 808; second reading, 819, 1307; Committee and remaining stages, 1314.

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Vexatious Litigants. (See" Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill.")

Victoria Market. (See" Queen Victoria Market.")

Victoria Promotion Committee-Govern­ment grants, (qn.) 1146. Establishment of decentralization fund, (qn.) 1146. Balance-sheets and associated docu­men ts, (qn.) 1718.

Vine Diseases •. (See" Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amendment) Bill.")

W. Walters, Hon. D. J. (Northern Province).

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill, 3391.

Agriculture, Department of-Number of fruit inspectors employed, 2794.

Clerk of the Parliaments and Clerk of the Legislative Council-Retirement of Mr. R. S. Sarah, 3016.

Death-Sir Ewen Cameron, 3105. Governor's Salary Bill, 1646. Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2858. Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2869. Retirement from Parliament, 4271. R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers'

Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3631. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis-

sion - Goulburn-Murray Irrigation District, 3158, 3159.

Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 2681. Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants)

Bill, 3748. Water Bill, 1947, 1949. Water Supply Loan Application Bill,

2239, 2251.

Walton, Hon. J. M. (Melbourne North Pro­vince).

Address-in-Reply, 1177. Companies Act-Garrisson Industries

Limited, 3270. Reid Murray Holdings Limited, 3274. Activities of companies, 3738.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 4098. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2079, 2083,

2084. Education Department-Heating of

schools, 809. Use of primary school premises as kindergartens, 1145.

Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill, 90.

Fisheries and Wildlife Department­Expenditure, 3369. Game licences, 3448.

Walton, Hon. J. M.-continued.

Forests Commission-Eradication of sirex wasp, 3278.

Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill, 637. Garrisson Industries Limited-Hammond

report, 3270. Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 3956, 3965,

3967, 4086. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3172, 3453. Health, Department of-Toilet facilities

in new building at Coburg, 4099. Hospitals and Charities Commission­

Government grants to Spastic Child­ren's Society, Yooralla Hospital School for Crippled Children and Victorian Society for Crippled Children and Adults, 1147.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis-sion, 307.

Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2858. Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill, 825. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1736, 1740. Local Government Department-Minis­

ter's overriding powers, 4099. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Flooding in North Coburg, 811. Publication and distribution of docu­ment, 1024, 1177. Suggested recon­stitution of Board, 1177. Water main in Nicholson-street, East Coburg, 4100.

Motor Boating Act-Licences issued, 3446, 4103. Fees collected, 3446, 4103. Improved facilities, 3446, 4103. Prose­cutions, 3937, 4104. Prescription of devices, 3937, 4104. Launching ramps, 3937, 4103. Payment of subsidies, 3937.

Municipalities-Toilet facilities for Sydney-road, Coburg, shoppers, 4099. Road construction costs, 4100.

Opticians Registration (Fees and Penal­ties) Bill, 3388.

Police Department-Case of Hudson v. Cain, 2349, 4100.

Railway Department-Derailments, 3370. Overloading of trucks, 3370. Roofing of Flinders-street, Princes Bridge and Camberwell stations, 3370. Track maintenance, 3533.

Scientologists-Activities, 1033, 1179, 2143, 2678.

Stamps (Exemptions) Bill, 3818. State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill

(No.2), 2622. Statute Law Revision Bill, 2343.

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Walton, Hon. J. M.--continued.

Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 4242. Suncoast Land, Queensland, 3271. Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants)

Bill, 3747. University (Faculties) Bill, 4241. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 2238.

Warner, Sir Arthur (Higinbotham Province). Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decen­

tralized Industries) Bill, 2545. Companies Act-Activities of companies,

3724. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2080. Retirement from Parliament, 4269.

Water Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1538; second reading, 1722, 1946; Committee, 1948; remain­ing stages, 1949.

Water Supply-Inquiry into metropolitan water supply, 4057, 4071, 4073, 4082. Expenditure on country waterworks trusts and town water supplies, 4134. (See also "Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage (Amendment) Bill," "Mel­bourne and Metropolitan Board of Works," "Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill" and "State Rivers and Water Supply Commission.")

Water Supply Loan Application Bill-Re­ceived from Assembly and first reading, 1188; second reading, 1288, 2238; Com­mittee, 2247; remaining stages, 2252.

Weights and Measures Branch-Charges for checking of bulk milk refrigerator vats, 4096. Supply of petrol in 44-gallon drums, 4097.

Wheat. (See" Grain Elevators Board.")

Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1843; second reading, 1849, 2222; Committee and remaining stages, 2226.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 1604; second reading, 1725, 2389; Committee, 2399, 2995; remaining stages, 2996.

Wills (Formal Validity) Bill-Received from Assembly and first reading, 3469; second reading, 3555, 3814; remaining stages, 3816.

Wilson's Promontory-Establishment of motel-hotel, (qn.) 812, (qn.) 813, 1172. (See also "National Parks Bill.")

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisition of Land) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 2388; second reading, 2476, 3384, 3470; Committee, 3487; remain­ing stages, 3492. Assembly amend­ments dealt with, 3851.

Wodonga Sewerage Trust-Finance, (qn.) 2793.

Wool Sales-At Portland, 469, 486.

Workers Compensation Board - Moneys held on trust, (qn.) 362, 1998. In­creased payments, 3005. Supplemen­tary Boards, 4091.

X.

X-ray Examinations. (See" Department of Health.")

Y.

Yarra River-Lower Yarra crossing, (qn.) 1373, 2002, 4078.

Yooralla Hospital School for Crippled Chil­dren. (See" Hospitals and Charities Commission.")

Youth Organizations Assistance Fund­Grants in Doutta Galla Province, (qn.) 1032.

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LEGISLATIVE

A.

Aborigines Welfare Board-1963-64 Budget statement, 193. Aborigines: Popula­tion, (qn.) 384; employment, (qn.) 384; social service payments, (qn.) 384. Home for aged aborigines in Gippsland, 755. (See also "Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station.")

Acquisition of Land-Report of Board of Inquiry into the acquisition of land at Mount Eliza by the State Rivers and Water Supply Commission, 1550. Rights of citizens, 1670. (See also "State Rivers and Water Supply Commission­Administration." )

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3097, 3150; remaining stages, 3150.

Acts of Parliament-Availability of reprints, 4046.

Adoption of Children Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3919; second reading, 4016, 4170; Committee, 4171; remaining stages, 4173.

Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 170; second reading, 227, 580; remaining stages, 580.

Aged Persons-Need for facilities, 924.

ASSEMBLY.

Agent-General-Administration, 2783. Pur­chase of home, 2785. Reorganization of office, 2785. Stationing of officers in Tokyo and New York, 2786. Appoint­ment of Mr. P.etty, 3928, 3934, 3935, 3936.

Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill­Appropriation resolution, 2176; intro­duction and first reading, 2176; second reading, 2287, 2561; Committee, 2562; remaining stages, 2563.

Agriculture. (See "Department of Agricul­ture.")

Air Pollution. (See" Clean Air Committee.")

Albert Park-Removal of Defence Depart­ment buildings, (qn.) 3392.

Alcoholism-Incidence, 852.

Alcoholism Foundation of Victoria­Government grant, 2915.

Appeal Costs Fund Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3134, 3263; appropriation resolution, 3266; resolution fixing fees, 3266; Committee and remaining stages, 3266. Council amendments dealt with, 3880.

Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1821; second reading, 2104, 2356; Committee, 2368, 2378; remaining stages, 2382. Council amendments dealt with, 2948.

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Appropriation Bill-All stages, 2929. Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi­

dent of the United States of America­Resolution lamenting death of, 2431. Adjournment of House as mark of re­spect, 2432. Message of concurrence from Council, 2438. Message from Governor, 3025. Communication from Assistant-Secretary of State of the Government of the United States of America, 3088.

Athletic Clubs-Mixed betting licences, (qn.) 587.

Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill­Introduction and first reading, 3991; second reading and remaining stages, 4015.

Auditor-General-Availability of report for year 1962-63, 451, 452, 746. Report presented,· 671, 878. Supplementary report pr:esented, 1074.

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill-Introduction and first reading, 2286; second reading, 2314, 2377; remaining stages, 2378.

Australian Capital Territory-Finance for construction of schools and universities, 709.

Australian Coast Guard Auxiliary-Consti­tution, (qn.) 3129. Policing of motor boating regulations, (qn.) 3129.

Australian Education Council-Report and recommendations, (qn.) 2284. Avail­ability of report, 2793, 3153, 3155.

B. Balfour, Mr. J. C. M. (Morwell).

Country Sewerage Authorities-Rating, 3988.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 1345. Sewerage Authorities-Rating, 3988. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Irrigation Districts: Diversion licences and increased water alloca­tions, 3989.

Ballarat-South-street competitions, 955.

Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands Ex­change Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3132, 3256; remaining stages, 3258.

Barley. (See " Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill.")

Benevolent Societies-Affiliation with Vic­torian Association of Benevolent Societies, (qn.) 2175. Subsidies and grants, (qn.) 2175.

Birrell, Mr. H. W. (Geelong).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 847. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentra­

lized Industries) Bill, 980, 1337, 1900. Motor Car Bill, 1483. Port Phillip Bay-Grounding of ships at

Heads, 847. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 1826. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1452. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2029. State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 54. Supply, 3593. Town and Country Planning Board­

Geelong ring-road, 3593. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1215.

Bloomfield, Mr. J. S. (Malvern). Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens,

1676. Aged Persons-Hospital accommodation,

1541. Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2365. Australian Education Council-Report and

recommendations, 3155. Benevolent Homes-Number of beds in

metropolitan institutions, 3861. Benevolent Societies-Affiliation with Vic­

torian Association of Benevolent Societies, 2175. Subsidies and grants, 2175.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 702. Cancer-Diagnosis and control, 3750.

Recommendations of National Health Council, 3750.

Child Minding Centres-Management, registration, and inspection, 3119. Templestowe day nursery, 3119, 3862. Number and proprietors, care, trans­port and legal requirements, 3862.

Chiropractic and Osteopathic College of Australasia, The, 3321.

Clean Air Committee-Investigations in City of Brunswick, 961. Meetings and recommendations, 1072. Use in Vic­toria of new equipment manufactured in New South Wales, 3398. Inspection of Davies and Baird Proprietary Limi­ted, Brunswick, 4140.

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Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Commission of Public Health-Fluorida­

tion of town water supplies, 966. Printing of annual report, 966.

Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob­jected to, 1678.

Drugs-Supply, sale and control, 666.

Education-School leaving age, 178, 702, 707. Scholarship proposals, 705. Report on tertiary education, 705. Federal Government election promise re scholarships for secondary and tech­nical schools, 3123.

Education (Adult Education) Bill, 3685, 3686.

Education Department­General-Promulgation of regulations,

178. Assembly halls in schools, 519, 587, 704, 842, 965, 3042, 3188. Free milk scheme, 587. Dental treatment, 722, 3393. Pupil-teacher ratio, 703, 704. Class sizes, 704. Increased number of pupils, 707. Sewerage of schools, 707. School fencing, 707. Temporary school accommodation, 708. Telephones in schools, 708. Portable class-rooms, 708. Suggested brochure on scholarships, bursaries and educational assistance, 966. Curriculum and Research Branch, 1419. Students in registered schools, 2008. Report to Parliament, 2008. School committees and advisory coun­cils: Raising of money, 2435; Govern­ment subsidies, 2435; expenditure on school works and buildings, 2435. Special Branch: Staff 2436; expendi­ture, 2436; curtailment of activities, 2436; availability of services, 2436. Use of former Ballarat Girls' School property, 2735. Acquisition and gifts of land, 3123. Clearance of building residue from school grounds, 3124. Children attending schools near State borders, 3240. Payment of fees for Saturday morning language classes, 3241. Teaching of German and Asian languages, 3497. Land acquisition at Werribee,3862. Appointment of typists to special class primary schools, 3989. Draft regulations for State school mothers' clubs, 3989. Classification of children, 3989.

Primary Schools-Primary teacher train­ing, 383. Number, 383. Teachers, 383, 2008. Pupils, 383, 2008. Arthur's Creek

Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Primary School, 1545. Clerical assist­ance, 1667. Instruction of teachers in cuisenaire method of teaching arithmetic, 2435. Accommodation, 2561. Yarram State School, 2736, 4140. George-street, Fitzroy, State School, 3154. Land at Dallas North, 3498.

Secondary Schools-Estimated 196'4 en­rolments, 178. Number, 383. Teachers, 383, 703, 2008, 3123. Pupils, 383, 2008. Williamstown Technical School, 383. Suggested high school at West Bruns­wick, 384. Site at North Albion, 520. Re-painting of secondary schools, 842. Doveton High School, 1238. High school at Wonthaggi, 1317, 1545. Selection and enrolment of high school students, 1420. Flemington High School, 1783, 3394. Technical school for Portland, 1873. Water supply for Warragul High School, 2870. Hadfield High School, 3154. Expenditure on science blocks, 3188. Acquisition of land for Fitzroy High School, 3393. Northcote High School: Students and teachers, 3498; staff turnover, 3498; amenities, 3498. Sunshine Technical School, 3862.

Teachers-Student teachers: University degrees, 312; number in training, 383. Temporary teachers, 312, 703. Primary teacher training, 383. Secondary teachers, 703, 3123. Applications for leave by footballer-teachers, 722, 772. Injuries to woodwork teachers, 1419. Physical education teachers, 1784. Instruction in cuisenaire method of teaching arithmetic, 2435. Shortage of primary teachers, 3989.

Elderly Citizens Clubs-Grants, 3196. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 4281. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2782. De-

bating procedure, 2782. Fluoridation of Town Water Supplies­

Committee of Inquiry, 1873. Health (Amendment) Bill, 3888, 4020. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3532, 3595,

3598, 3888, 3894, 3896, 3897. Health, Department of-Poliomyelitis vac­

cine, 388. Incidence of hepatitis and gastro-enteritis, 527.

Hospitals-Statistics re beds, patients, medical and nursing staffs, 518. Pay­ments to and training of nurses, 518.

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Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Diagnostic investigations at Govern­ment subsidized hospitals, 843. Institu-tions included in Second Schedule to Hospitals and Charities Act, 1875.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill, 2085, 2180.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Proposed employees superannuation scheme, 318. Availability of beds in homes for the aged, 519. Fees paid to architects, 1192.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2661. Local Government Department-Bruthen

Mechanics' Institute, 3154. Medical Profession-University of Mel­

bourne graduates, 521. Registration of general practitioners and specialists, 521. Numbers in governmental employment, 521. Number in metro­politan area, 3870.

Mental Health Authority-Traralgon Psychiatric Hospital, 586. Pension pay­ments, 964, 1191, 4278. Psychiatric centre at Bendigo, 2437. Common­wealth grants for institutions, 4139, 4146, 4278. St. Nicholas's Hospital, 4278.

Mental Hospitals-Location, capacity and cost, 3495. Provision for dangerous patients, 3495.

Monash University-Chair and Faculty of Law, 384. Total number of students and number from Gippsland, 3861.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill, 3685, 3687.

National Parks Bill, 4039, 4296. New Melbourne Cemetery, Fawkner, 1667,

1693, 3660. Obscene Publications, 3413. Opticians Registration (Fees and Penal­

ties) Bill, 3089, 3093. Pascoe Vale R.S.L. and Citizens Youth

Club-Building site, 807. Points of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

542, 4193. Statements in debate, 2667, 3677. Personal explanation not to be reiteration of policy, 3603.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1831.

Raising of School Leaving Age (Con­sequential Amendment) Bill, 2294, 2353.

Road Traffic-Pedestrian crossing in Spring-street, Melbourne, 992.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2208. Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1809.

Bloomfield, Mr. J. S.-continued. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 3906. Shelley Memorial Hospital, Bunyip­

Tenders for construction, 2282. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2028. Teachers Tribunal-Claims for salaries,

and procedure, 178. Teaching Service Act-Suggested amend­

ment, 1669. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill,

3684, 3685. Tnalidomide-Babies affected, and Govern­

ment assistance, 3394. Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Execu­

tors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 783.

Tuberculosis-Incidence, 1189. Sana-toria, 1189. X-ray examinations, 1189.

University (Amendment) Bill, 2010, 2184. University Education-Proposed Ballarat

university college, 706. Proposed third university, 3708. Reservation of land for University of Melbourne and Monash University, 3749.

University (Faculties) Bill, 3685, 3688. University of Melbourne-Inquiry into

teachers' colleges, 311. Extensions, and acquisition of land, 664.

Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Recom­mendations of Commission of Public Health, 3189.

Victorian Nursing Council-Standards of nursing education, 1416. Training of nurses for future needs, 1416.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acqui­sition of Land) Bill, 3880.

Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 37; second reading, 221, 986; Committee, 990, 2308; remaining stages, 2312.

Bolte, Mr. H. E. (Hampden).

Aborigines Welfare Board-Budget state­ment, 193.

Acts of Parliament-Reprinting, 4046. Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill,

2287, 2563. Agriculture, Department of-Budget state­

ment, 196. Plant breeding, 197. Veterinary services, 197. Agricultural education, 197. Grants to agricultural and pastoral societies, 198.

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Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi­

dent of the United States of America, 2431, 2432, 2433.

Auditor-General-Availability of report, 452.

Australian Education Council-Report and recommendations, 2284.

Australian Universities Commission-Per­sonnel, 3987. Personnel of committee on future of tertiary education, 3987.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 184, 958. Bush Nursing Hospitals-Financial pro­

vision, 194. Business of the House-I964 autumn

sessional period, 3085. Chief Secretary's Department-Budget

statement, 192. Commonwealth Aid Roads Conference,

3219, 3517, 4139. Commonwealth Government-Tax remis­

sions for gifts to technical schools, 3124. Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payments

by Victoria, 387. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.2), 1779. Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2673. Co-operative Housing-Budget statement,

201. Co-operative Housing Societies-Interest

rates, 4138. Co-operative Housing Societies (Guaran­

tees) Bill, 57, 62. Country Recreation and Sports Grounds­

Money from Municipalities Assistance Fund, 3242.

Country Town Water Supply and Sewer­age-Budget statement, 199.

Cultural Centre-Architect and contrac­tors, 3985. Inspection and control, 3985. Collapse of concrete, 3985.

Cultural Development-Grants and aHo­cations, 3122.

Daylight Saving-Introduction into Vic­toria, 1317.

Deaths-The Hon. Ian Macfarlan, 3315, 3316. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 3796, 3801.

Debate-Withdrawal of statement objected to, 158, 4181.

Decimal Currency-Change-over arrange­ments, 3569.

Deficits-Interest and sinking fund charges, 387.

Distribution of Population Committee­Recommendations, 1191, 1418. Submis­sions to Federal Government, 1418.

Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Dried Fruits Industry-Aid to growers,

318. Education Department-Budget statement,

188. Scholarships, 190, 959. Assembly halls, 190. Telephones in schools, 191. increases in teachers' salaries, 219. Subsidies for amenities in State schools, 2282.

Estate Agents (Amendment) Act-Pro-mulgation, 3569. Protection of pur-chasers from malpractices, 3569.

Estate Agents Committee-Rules of pro­fessional conduct, 2437, 3399.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 184, 2780, 3324. Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 184, 220.

Forests Commission-Budget statement, 201.

Gas and Fuel Corporation-Budget state­ment, 207. Installation charge, 965.

Government Departments and Instrumen­talities-Employees and salaries, 3124, 3188. Purchase and disposal of build­ings and properties, 3398.

Governor's Salary Bill, 1194, 1442. Grain Elevators Board-Budget statement,

207. Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing

Order, 2286. Hansard-Change in type face, 182, 2874.

Binding, 2874. Health, Department of-Budget statement,

193. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill, 57, 60. Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust)

Bill, 3244, 3258. Home Finance Trust-Budget statement,

201. Second mortgage loans, 318. Home Finance Fund (No.2), 318. Interest rates, 318, 4138. Waiting list, 960.

Hospitals-Budget statement, 195. Housing-Loans, 524. Co-operative hous­

ing societies, 524. Housing Commission-Budget statement,

200. Jack Smith's Lake-Visit of inspection,

3858. Flooding, 3858. Judges Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1194.

1441. Karingal Estate, Frankston-Sewerage

scheme, 3859. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­

sion, 36, 155, 1318, 2631. Insurance, 589. Government discussions with parties re finance for repairs, 589, 1318. Cost of repairs, 844, 3121. Statement

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Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. by expert committee and Board of Works, 1318. Dates of opening of bridge, and collapse of section, 3121.

La Mode Holdings Limited-Employment at Traralgon and Morwell, 1318, 1669. Government assistance, 1318.

Land-Acquisition for Government instru­mentalities, 665.

Land Tax-Assessments, 3317. Revenue, 3317. Exemptions, 3317. Payments to municipalities, 3317.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2176, 2286, 2573, 2576, 3025.

Legislative Assembly-Suspension of sit-ting for dinner, 2780.

Litter Bill, 3089, 3129, 3364. Loan Programme-Budget statement, 203. Local Government Department-Budget

statement, 202. Marine Board-Port Phillip Bay pilotage

exemptions, 3084. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board ot

Works-Budget statement, 206. State­ment re Kings Bridge, 1318.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Water Sup­ply-Use of waters of Big and Thomson rivers, 4138.

Members-Appreciation of services of re­tiring members, 4291.

Mental Health Authority-Budget state­ment, 195. Conversion of old Children's Hospital premises, 195.

Mental Hospitals-Commonwealth grant for capital works, 3318.

Milk Board-Treasury account, 1071. Minister of Public Works-Appointment

as Agent-General, 3935. Ministry-Appointment of Mr. Balfour as

Minister of Water Supply and Minister of Mines, 3981.

Moomba Carnival-Government financial contribution, 3191. Police duties, 3191. Cultural activities, 3191.

Motor Boats-Registration and payments to Tourist Development Fund, 524. Pro­vision of facilities, 524. Purchase of boats to police legislation, 524.

Motor Registration Branch-Amalgama­tion with Transport Regulation Board, 1669, 1876.

Mount Eliza Reservoir-Report of Board of Inquiry, 844, 1550, 1784. Com­pensation to property owners, 1784, 3117, 3213. Claims for legal expenses and valuers' fees, 3117, 3213. Payments by Mr. R. M. Ansett, 3117.

Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Municipalities-Loan raisings, 204, 662,

2285. Financial assistance, 662, 2285. Municipalities Assistance Fund-Subsidies

for country recreation and sports grounds, 3242.

National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre -Government contribution, 1316.

Newmarket Sale-yards-Charges for use of stock-bridge, 1191, 1316.

Parliament - Appointments of officers, 3086.

Parliament House-Condition of kitchen utensils, 452. Improvement of facilities, 452.

Pensioners' Rental Relief Trust Account­Payments, 3192. Credit balance in fund, 3192.

Permanent Building SocietieS-Registra­tion and investigation, 3127.

Petrol Excise-Collections in Victoria, 841. Finance for road works, 841. Grants to States, 3392.

Points of Order-Ambit of debate on amendment to a motion, 147. Bill founded on Governor's message, 1319. Statement in debate, 1670. Relevancy of remarks, 1774. Wording of motion under Standing Order 8B, 3198, 3199. Amendment of an amendment, 4182.

Police Classification Board-Provision for increased salary payments, 219.

Police Department-Strength of Force, 192.

Port Phillip Bay-Corsair rock, 959. Pilot­age exemptions, 3084.

Probate Duty (Amendment) Bill, 1319. Public Account-Interest and sinking fund

charges, 3193. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 1194, 1437. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 3244,

3324, 3506, 4174, 4175, 4177, 4180, 4184, 4185, 4190.

Public Service Board-Provision for in-creased salary payments, 219.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1090. Quarries-Price fixing, 1668. Question on Notice-Reply, 4297. Railway Department-Budget statement,

186. Increased award payments, 219. Additional financial provision, 220.

Royal Family-Birth of Royal Prince, 3185. River Improvement-Budget statement.

200. River Murray Waters Bill, 2091.

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Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Rural Finance and Land Settlement Com­

mission-Budget statement, 200. Sale of Goods-South Australian legisla­

lation, 3190. Sessional Period, Close of-Felicitations,

3080, 4296. Social Welfare Branch-Budget statement,

193. Stamp Duty-Exemption of river improve­

ment trusts, 389.

Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 967, 1347, 1348.

Stamps (Exemptions) Bill, 3577.

State Accident Insurance Offices­Workers compensation premiums, 219.

State Development-Assistance to organi­zations, 179.

State Electricity Commission-Budget statement, 204. Special tariff, 1782.

State Electricity Commission (Amend­ment) Bill, 2778.

State Insurance Offices-Investment from insurance fund, 4138.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Budget statement, 198. Flood gates at Tooradin, 3859.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 37.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill (No.2), 1821, 1927, 2296.

Superannuation Act-Pensions paid to former State employees and dependants, 2281.

Superannuation Bill, 2455, 2456.

Superphosphate-Availability of supplies, 3933, 4046.

Supply, 216, 217, 3324.

Tattersall Consultations-Payments to estate of late George Adams and New Zealand Government, 3116, 3318. Pub­lication of balance-sheet, 3116. Un­claimed prize moneys, 3190. Service of trustees, 3658.

Teachers Tribunal-Provision for increased salary payments, 219.

Transport Regulation Board-Amalgama­tion with Motor Registration Branch, 1669, 1876.

Tuna Fishing-Development and trade out­lets, 3988.

Bolte, Mr. H. E.-continued. Uniform Taxation-Restoration of powers

to States, 316.

University Education-Budget statement, 191. Establishment of university col­leges, 3748. Location of proposed third university, 3749, 3986, 3987, 4138.

Victorian Symphony Orchestra, 2383.

Books and Magazines-Communications with distributors, (qn.) 3320. Warnings to publishers and distributors, (qn.) 3399. (See also "Censorship" and "Obscene Publications.")

Borthwick, Mr. W. A. (Scoresby). Aged Persons-Hospital accommodation.

933.

Boy Scouts Association-Gov,ernment grant, 291l.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 933.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1702.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2911.

Girl Guides Association - Government grant, 291l.

Public Works Department-Site dev,elop­ment at Mooroolbark Technical School. 3441.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1433.

State Electricity Commission-Maccles­field and Macclesfield-N angana elec­tricity extensions, 1070.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 608.

Supply, 3602.

Ustashi-Activities in Victoria, 3602.

Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1206.

Youth Organizations-Government grants. 291l.

Bread Industry-Bakeries licensed in metro­politan area, (qn.) 3195, 3323. (See also "Industrial Appeals Court.")

Brose, Mr. R. K. (Rodney). Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill.

393. Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage

(Amendment) Bill, 618.

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Brose, Mr. R. K.-continued. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2773.

Melbourne Harbor Trust Regulations, 4146, 4147.

Point of Order-Order of speakers, 1683.

Subordinate Legislation Committee­Reports presented: Meat Transport Vehicles Regulations, 1963, 2175. Mel­bourne Harbor Trust (Amendment) Regulations, 1963, 2875. General Report, 4146.

Water Bill, 1558.

Budget for Year 1963-64-Brought down by Mr. Bolte (Premier and Treasurer), 184; debated, 671, 723, 760, 847.

Building Industry-Bonding system, 851. Approvals and commencements in year 1963-64, 3328. Safety precautions, 4194, 4195.

Building Societies. (See" Permanent Build­ing Societies.")

Bush Fires. (See" Country Fire Authority" and " Forests.")

Bush Nursing Hospitals-Financial provi­sion, 194.

Business of the House-Order of business, 116, 580, 807, 808, 1194, 1271, 1371, 1469, 1780, 2674, 4020. Hour of ad­journment for dinner, 789. Hours of sitting, 1142, 1780. Orders of the Day, 2368.

C.

Capital-Overseas investment in Australia, 861, 866, 899.

Capital Punishrnent-Tait case, 410. Re­tention, 410.

Cement-Consignments from Geelong to Melbourne, (qn.) 845.

Censorship-Of books, 3233, 3235. (See also " Books and Magazines" and "Obscene Publications.")

Central Planning Authority-Activities, 2782.

Central Plasterboard Service Pty. Ltd.­Directors and capital, (qn.) 1873.

Chairman of Committees, The (Mr. J. A. Rafferty).

Rulings and Statements of-

Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 326, 336, 446, 674, 861, 863, 1141, 1497, 1498, 1755, 2364, 2367, 2912, 2914, 4177, 4178, 4179, 4181, 4282. Interjections, 448, 672, 739, 857, 860, 867, 870, 960, 984, 2892, 3418, 4162, 4163, 4175, 4179, 4181. Reading of speech, 858. Right of member to speak again in Budget debate after amendment has been moved, 891. Member seeking to move that ruling of Chairman of Committees be disagreed with, 893. Moving of motion that progress be reported, 894. Use of expressions objected to, 894, 4180, 4181. Conversation in Chamber, 1903. Speaking during division, 4182.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill-Voting in division, 4182.

Rulings and Statements as Deputy Speaker-

Bills Declared Private-Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree Gully) Bill, 390; Maryborough Free Library and Literary Institute Bill, 3341.

Debate-Interjections, 1088, 1090, 1095, 1113, 1114, 1222, 1475, 1487, 2047, 2293, 2363, 2364, 2367, 2957, 3252, 3347, 3519, 3523, 3524, 3699, 4030, 4290. Relevancy of remarks, 1093, 1101, 1102, 1109, 1110, 1115, 1118, 1121, 1473, 1493, 1494, 1802, 180~ 1826, 2038, 2040, 2110, 2112, 2955, 3141, 3349, 3360, 3522, 3526, 3694, 4030. Reference to matter that is sub judice, 2587, 2589, 2598, 2599, 2601, 2743, 3441. Scope of debate on motion for adjournment of House at close of sitting, 3268. Use of expres­sion objected to, 3360. Member to address the Chair, 3698. Reference to debates in another place, 2369, 3762, 3882.

Members-Appreciation of services on retirement, 4295, 4297. (See also "Rafferty, Mr. J. A. (Ormond)").

Chairmen of Committees, Temporary­Appointments, 36.

Chemists' Shops-Number in metropolitan area, (qn.) 3872. (See also "Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill.")

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Chief . Secretary's Department-Budget statement, 192.

Children's Welfare (Retainers) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 1821; second reading, 1889; remaining stages, 1889.

Chiropractic and Osteopathic College of Australasia, The-Complaint by Austra­lian Chiropractors' Association, (qn.) 3320; investigation, (qn.) 3320. Pre­cautions against unqualified prac­titioners, (qn.) 3320. Use of X-ray apparatus, (qn.) 3320.

Christie, Mr. Vernon (Ivanhoe).

Agent-General-Suggested reorganization of office, 2785. Stationing of Agents­General in Tokyo and New York, 2786.

Auditor-General-Report, 878. Budget for Year 1963-64, 875. Commonwealth Government - Financial

policy, 879. Companies Act-Interim report on Reid

Murray group, 2901. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 3047,

3050. Decentralization--Closure of country flour

mills, 2783. Education-Report on tertiary ,education,

879. Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2743. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2783, 2785,

2787, 2789, 2901. Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Trout

fishing, 2789. Immigration - Foreign language news­

papers and broadcast, 883. Land Tax-Incidence, 882. Legislative Assembly-Ventilation of

Chamber, 2960. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Discharge of sewage into Yarra river, 313, 425, 718, 1192, 1841.

Municipalities~rants by Country Roads Board,877.

Personal Explanation-Press report, 3024, 3083.

Police Department-Police pensions fund, 875. Suggested take-over of night watching services, 878.

Port Phillip Bay--Corsair rock, 425. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1081. Railway Department - Railway Equaliza-

tion Fund, 875. Provision of off-street parking, 4144.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2203.

Christie, Mr. Vernon-continued. Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology

-Training of overseas students, 880. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2024. Stamp Duty-Incidence in Victoria, 877. Supply, 424. Taxation-Amount per head in Victoria,

876. Technical Colleges-Training of overseas

students, 880. Traffic Commission-Traffic problems in

metropolitan area, 2787. Transport Regulation Board-Training of

taxi drivers, 3235. Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements to

Victoria, 876, 878. Reimbursement for­mula, 876.

Universities - Enrolments, 879. Places for Asian students, 880. Financing, 880.

Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1222.

City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill-Appropriation reso­lution, 2086; introduction and first read­ing, 2086; second reading, 2183, 2746; Committee, 2754; remaining stages, 2758.

Clarey, Mr. R. A. (Melbourne).

Auditor-General-Annual report, 746. Budget for the Year 1963-64, 740. Commonwealth Constitution - Financial

agreement between the Commonwealth and the States, 744.

Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax - Payments by Victoria, 387, 2913. Validity, 403, 744, 2914.

Companies Act - Operation, 406. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 3039. Deficits - Interest and sinking fund

charges, 387. Education - Expenditure, 742. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2913. Farm Produce Merchants and Commission

Agents Bill, 3786. Home Finance Trust - Second mortgage

loans, 318. Home Finance Trust Fund No. 2,318.

Home Finance Trust (Amendment) Bill, 599.

Housing Commission--Cost of acquisition, clearance for, and development of flats in North Melbourne, 3870. Outstanding

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Clarey, Mr. R. A.-continued. applications for Darby and Joan and lone person units, 3871. Purchase of units, 4143. Priorities, 4143.

Insurance-Losses on compulsory third­party underwriting, 404.

Litter Bill, 3348.

Loan Funds-Use for maintenance and replacement works, 745.

Maiella Construction Co. Pty. Ltd., 406. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works - Proposed eastern section of ring road, 3126.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Financial results of operations, 387, 407, 749. Cost of consessional travel, 749.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Reconstruction of berths for "roll-on roll-off" ships, 3126.

Motor Registration Branch - Registration plates for privately-owned vehicles, 1317. Registration of vehicles used for driving instruction, 1317.

Pensioners' Rental Relief Trust Account -Payments, 3192. Credit balance in fund, 3192.

Personal Explanation - Statement in debate, 408.

Point of Order - Similarity of amend­ments, 4166.

Police Department-Strength of Force, 747.

Poor Persons Legal Assistance Act­Applicants for assistance, 3192.

Public Accounts - Surplus.es and deficits, 743. Interest and sinking fund charges, 3193.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 3922, 4165, 4174, 4176, 4183, 4184, 4186, 4191.

Railway Department - Railway Equaliza­tion Fund, 743. Deductions from employees' wages for payments to assurance companies and benefit organizations, 1781, 3873.

Savings Banks - Proportion of funds invested in housing, 74l.

State Insurance Funds Bill, 2290. State Insurance Offices - Suggested

broadening of charter, 403. Interest rates, 405, 749. Investments from insurance funds, 4138.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 5l.

Clarey, Mr. R. A.-continued. State Savings Bank (Amendment) BilJ

(No.2), 2294.

State Savings Bank of Victoria-Charter, 741, 748.

Superannuation Bill, 1899, 2445, 2457, 295l.

Supply, 399, 406. Form of presentation, 401.

Taxation - Incidence of State taxation, 742.

Trotting Control Board - Installation of manual totalizator, 1874. Revenue, 1874. Attendances at trotting meetings, 1874. Investments, 1874.

Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Execu­tors and Trustees Association of Aus­tralia Limited) Bill, 783.

Uniform Taxation - Restoration of State's taxing powers, 402. Reimburse­ments to Victoria, 742.

Rulings and Statements as Acting Ohairman of Committees-

Debate-Interjections, 919, 923. Quorum, 923. Relevancy of remarks, 1774.

Clayton Timber and Trading Company Pty. Ltd.-Investigation of affairs, (qn.) 183.

Clean Air Committee-Investigations in City of Brunswick, 913, (qn.) 96l. Meetings, ( qn.) 1071. Recommenda­tions, (qn.) 1071. Complaints of air pollution, (qn.) 1072, 1755; effects, 915. Use of deposit gauges, (qn.) 1072. Finance, ( qn.) 1072, 1776. Oakleigh: Emission of soot, 1756; need for deposit gauge, 1766; emission of sulphur dioxide and sulphuric acid, 1767. Emissions from Colvan factory, 176l. Suggested industrial zoning, 176l. Powers of prosecution, 1767, 1768. Functions, 1769, 1776. Emissions from brick in­dustry in Northcote, 1772. Manufacture of new equipment in New South Wales, (qn.) 3398; suggested use in Victoria, (qn.) 3398. Inspection of Davies and Baird Pty. Ltd., Brunswick, (qn.) 4140.

Coal Canal-Temporary bridge, 946.

Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill-Appropria­tion resolution, 2175; introduction and first reading, 2176; second reading, 2289, 2631; remaining stages, 2632.

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Cochrane, Mr. L. J. (Gippsland West).

Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill, 4015.

Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands Exchange Bill, 3258.

Bore Water-Samples from Koo-Wee­Rup basin, 3194.

Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill, 2631. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentra­

lized Industries) Bill, 980, 1338. Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2953. Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1707,

1712. Education Department - High school at

Wonthaggi, 1317, 1545. Water Supply for Warragul High School, 2870.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2739. Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2634. Police Department - Residence at Long-

warry, 1070. Shelley Memorial Hospital, Bunyip­

Tenders for construction, 2282. South Gippsland Highway-Constructing

authority, 2008. Progress, 2008. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Proposed dam on Tarago river, 1414, 3750.

Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­ling Bill-Introduction and first reading, 56; second reading, 57, 1239; Committee, 1246; remaining stages, 1249.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized Industries) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 390; second reading, 571, 971; Committee, 986, 1332, 1832, 1899; third reading, 1908. Council amendment dealt with, 3064.

Commission of Public Health-Fluoridation of town water supplies, (qn.) 966; re­port of committee of inquiry, 1873. Printing of annual report, 966. (See also " Chiropractic and Osteopathic College of Australasia, The.")

Commonwealth Aid Roads Act-Grants to Victoria, (qn.) 317. Allocations to metropolitan and country ar.eas, (qn.) 317. Need for additional money for Victoria, 2946. Ministerial statement on conference, 3219; debated, 3511, (qn.) 4139. Receipts and expenditure by Victoria, (qn.) 3870, 4281.

Commonwealth Conciliation and Arbitra­tion Commission-Representations by Victorian Government, 715.

Commonwealth Government - Financial relationships with States, 744. Scholar­ships for' technical and secondary schools, (qn.) 3123. Tax remissions for gifts to technical schools, (qn.) 3124.

Communications-Loss of the art of per­sonal communication, 860. Foreign language newspapers and broadcasts, 883.

Companies-Maiella Construction Company Pty. Ltd., (qn.) 179, (qn.) 314, 334, 407. Building companies in liquidation, (qn.) 182; activities of directors, (qn.) 182. Clayton Timber and Trading Com­pany, (qn.) 183. Investigation of Korman group, (qn.) 314, 2874. Losses of companies, 336, 414, 761. Investiga­tions, 338, (qn.) 3186; legal proceed­ings, (qn.) 3186. Payne's Properties Pty. Ltd., 347, 2896. Reid Murray group, 347, 853, 2736, 2882, 2893, 2898. Operation, 406, 414. Testro Brothers, 408, 1820, 2894. Report on Public Fidelity and Audit Limited, 846. Central Plaster Board Service Pty. Ltd., (qn.) 1873. Dindas Pty. Ltd., (qn.) 1874. George Weston Foods Ltd.: Control, Australian shareholders, balance-sheet and profit, (qn.) 3195. J.H.K. Pty. Ltd., (qn.) 3318. Swallow and Ariell Ltd: Take-over bid, (qn.) 3990; future operations and arrangements, (qn.) 3990. (See also "Fern Tree Gully Estate.")

Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill-Re­ceived from Council and first reading, 2438; second reading, 2441, 3027; Com­mittee, 3050; remaining stages, 3052.

Consolidated Revenue Bill-All stages, 450.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 2)-All stages, 1779.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No. 3)-All stages, 3603.

Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3095, 3139; remaining stages, 3141.

Co-operation (Amendment) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2673; second reading, 2745, 2951; remaining stages, 2954.

Co-operative Housing Societies. (See " Housing.")

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Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 2438; second reading, 2580, 2758; appropriation resolution, 2766; Commit­tee, 2766; remaining stages, 2768.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Guarantees) Bill-Appropriation resolution, 57; in­troduction and first reading, 57; ~econd reading, 62, 593; third reading, 599.

Country Fire Authority-Deregistration of Lower Plenty Rural Fire Brigade, 170. Need for inquiry, 943. Supply of equip­ment to urban and rural brigades, (qn.) 1876. Bush fire precautions in Dande­nong Ranges, (qns.) 2735, 2874. Use of private aircraft for fire spotting, (qn.) 3241; insurance cover, (qn.) 3492.

Country Roads Board-

Administration-Suggested reconstitution, 701. Status and salary of chairman, (qn.) 2870. Case of Mr. R. A. Lamb, 3440, 3443.

Finance - Expenditure on roads and bridges 1963-64, (qn.) 97. Estimated revenue, (qn.) 97. Allocations for metropolitan road and bridg.e works, (qn.) 179. Gran ts to municipalities for road works, 757, 877.

Roads and Bridges - Responsibility for main highways, 430. Snow-ploughing of Mount Hotham road, 728. Condition of Princes Highway in East Gippsland, 911. South Gippsland Highway: Con­tract and progress of work, (qn.) 2008. San Remo-Newhaven bridge: Site, (qn.) 2438; construction date, (qn.) 2438. South Numurkah: Acquisition of land for widening of roadway, (qn.) 2870. Access road to Wameet, (qn.) 3114. Report on Lower Yarra crossing, (qn.) 3319.

Crick, Mr. G. R. (Grant). Budget for Year 1963-64, 955. Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­

ling Bill, 1239, 1247. Education Department-Secondary school

site at North Albion, 520. Assembly halls, 956. Sunshine Technical School, 3862. Land acquisition at Werribee, 3862.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2927. Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage

(Amendment) Bill, 617, 618.

Crick, Mr. G. R.-continued. Hansard-Availability of proofs, 992. Housing Commission - Laverton estate,

356,388. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1328. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2773. Newmarket Sale-yards and Abattoirs -

Suggested removal, 358. Oil Installations - Fire-fighting precau­

tions, 4012. Police Department-Provision of station

at Laverton, 356. Men on the beat, 357. Station and court-house at Altona North, 957.

Public Transport - Requirements of Werribee and Laverton areas, 358.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1093. Quarries - Price increase, 957. Railway Department - Suggested elec­

trification of line from Sunshine to Deer Park, 359, 581. Manning of suburban stations, 357. Suggested suburban loop lines, 358. Servicing of Tullamarine jet airport, 358. Supply of materials and replacement parts at Newport work­shops, 662. Transfer of interstate pas­sengers' luggage at Sunshine, 2927.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1444. Sewerage Districts Bill, 620, 622. Supply, 356. Traffic Commission - Provision of safety

measures for school children and other pedestrians, 358.

University Education - Suggested use of Commonwealth building at Maribyr­nong, 956.

Williamstown (Mebourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 1601, 1603.

Crimes (Aircraft) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2438; second reading 2444, 3026; remaining stages, 3027.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill­Received from Council and first reading, 2792; second reading, 2875, 3065; Com­mittee, 3070; remaining stages, 3074.

Cultural Centre-(See "National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre.")

Cultural Development-Grants and alloca­tions, (qn.) 3122. Grants to metropolitan and country cultural societies, (qn.) 3122. Qualifications for grants, (qn.!) 3122.

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D.

Dairying Industry-Butter production and stocks, (qn.) 3116. Margarine: Quota system, (qn.) 3116. Interstate pro­duction and trade, (qn.) 3116. (See also "Milk and Dairy Supervision Act," " Milk Board" and " Milk Board (Amendment) Bill.")

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 591; second reading, 968, 1693; appropriation reso­lution, 1711; Committee, 1711; remain­ing stages, 1715. Council amendments dealt with, 2375.

Darcy, Mr. T. A. (Polwarth).

Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­ling Bill, 1244.

Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement, 3527.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 3070. Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2596. Motor Car Bill, 1793. National Parks Bill, 4037. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 3906. State Forests Loan Application Bill, 615. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 798.

Daylight Saving-Introduction in Victoria, (qn.) 1317.

Deaths. (See" Macfarlan, The Hon. Ian, Death of" and "Mibus, The Hon. Wilfred John, Death of.")

Decentralization-Recommendations of Dis­tribution of Population Committee, 323, 348, 680. Benefits, 394. Need for im­proved conditions in country, 442. Definition, 750. Plans, 912. Rail freight concessions, 2055. Closure of country flour mills, 2781, 2783. Declaration of approved decentralized industries, (qn.) 3115. La Mode Industries Pty. Ltd. and Maryborough Knitting Mills (Cuttle) Limited: Traralgon and Mor­well establishments, (qn.) 3393. (See also "Distribution of Population Com­mittee.")

Decimal Currency-Change-over arrange­ments, (qn.) 3569.

Deficits-Interest on sinking fund charges, (qn.) 387, 743.

Dental Hospital-Dental mechanics and apprentices, (qn.) 105.

Department of Agriculture-Agricultural and Pastoral Societies­

Government grants, 198. Agricultural Colleges-Admittance of stu·

dents, 922. Agricultural Education-1963-64 Budget

statement, 197. Dried Fruits Industry-Aid to growers,

(qn.) 318. Annual report of Australian Dried Fruits Control Board, 326. Need for Government assistance, 940.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 196. Foot-rot in Shee,r-Statement in Pastoral

Review and Country Magazine, (qn.) 3574, (qn.) 3660. Treatment, (qns.) 3574, 3660.

Fruit Fly - Regulations, ( qn.) 663. Prosecutions, (qn.) 663. Duties of inspectors, 755. Enforcement of regu­lations, 755. Situation of road blocks, 755.

Grasshoppers - Eradication measures, (qn.) 2437.

Plant Breeding-1963-64 Budget state .. ment, 197.

Research-Location of Wheat Research Institute, 679. Work of Mallee research station, 922. Finance for horticultural station at Mildura, 922.

Tractor Testing Station, Werribee-Estab­lishment, (qn.) 3574; staff, (qn.) 3574; costs, (qn.) 3574; tests, (qn.) 3574.

Veterinary Services - 1963-64 Budget statement, 197.

Department of Health-Cancer-Diagnosis and control: Recom­

mendations of National Health Council, (qn.) 3750.

Child Minding Centres-Management, registration and inspection, ( qn.) 3119. Templestowe day nursery, (qns.) 3119, 3862. Departmental files, (qn.) 3119. Number of centres, (qn.) 3862; pro­prietors, (qn.) 3862; care and trans­port of children, (qn.) 3862; legal requirements, (qn.) 3862. (See also "Health (Child Minding) Bill.")

Creches, Infant Welfare Centres and Kindergartens-Kindergarten Training College: Increased accommodation, 674, 688; training of teachers, 1764. Sug­gested survey, 1763. Shortage of teachers, 2932.

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Department of Health-continued. Drugs-Supply, sale and control, (qn.)

666. Suggested price control, 853. Sale of "Tussils," 898, 2948. Pro­vision of samples, 2920.

Finance-Budget statement, 193. Hepatitis and Gastro-enteritis-Number

of cases reported, (qn.) 527.

Injections-Methods, 928. Mass immuni­zation programmes, 2919.

Measles-Vaccine, 2919.

Poliomyelitis Vaccine-Availability, (qn.) 388. Use of Salk vaccine, 928. Use of oral Sabin vaccine, 929, 2918.

Tuberculosis-Incidence, (qn.) 1189. Sanatoria, ( qn.) 1189. Compulsory chest X-ray examinations, 923, 928, (qn.) 1189; campaign in Mildura, 923. X-ray examinations of migrants, (qn.) 1189.

Department of Labour and Industry-Administration-Explosion at factory of

Campbell's Soups (Australia) Pty. Ltd., Shepparton: Coroner's findings and departmental investigation, (qn.) 1316. Expenses and fees in connexion with bread industry reference before Indus­trial Appeals Court, (qn.) 3397. Investigation of breaches of Act, (qn.) 3575.

Boilers Inspection Branch-Inspection of steam boilers and air and gas re­ceivers, (qn.) 384. Annual report of Chief Inspector of Boilers, ( qn.) 384. Revenue and expenditure for year 1962, (qn.) 663. Number of pressure vessels registered, (qn.) 663. Steam boilers registered and inspected, ( qn.) 842.

Clothing Industry-Breaches of determina­tions re dining and rest rooms in factories, (qn.) 3661. Dry-cleaning depots: Complaints re hours of trading, (qn.) 3871. Provision of records by employers, (qn.) 3871. Breaches of Act re outside workers, (qn.) 3872.

Dindas Pty. Ltd.-Directors and capital, (qn.) 1874.

Distinguished Visitor-Mr. J. D. R. T. Tilney, 758.

Distribution of Population Committee­Recommendations, 954, (qns.) 1191, 1418, 2944.

Divers, Mr. W. T. (Footscray). Budget for Year 1963-64, 944. Education Department-Clerical assistance

for primary schools, 1667. Special branches: Staff, 2435; expenditure, 2435; curtailment of activities, 2435; availability of services, 2435.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2878. Government Departments and Instrumen­

talities-Control, 944. Housing Commission-Printing of annual

report, 2871. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­

sion, 147. Landlord and Tenant Act-Rent control,

945. Police Department-Strength of Force,

944. Use of private transport, 945. Staffing of Maidstone police station, 2878.

State Electricity Commission-Briquetting plants Nos. 3 and 4, 718, 723.

Divisions-

Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens: On motion for adjournment of the House, 1692.

Budget Debate-On motion " That the vote be reduced by £1," 961.

City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill-On second-reading motion, 2754.

Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dismant­ling Bill-On motion "That the debate be further adjourned," 1244; on motion for second reading, 1246.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentralized Industries) Bill- On amendment to clause 4, 1907; on motion that amend­ment made by the Committee of the whole House be agreed to, 1908; on motion that Bill be transmitted to the Legislative Council and their concur­rence desired therein, 1910.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill-On second-reading motion, 2765.

Health (Amendment) Bill-On clause 4, 4192.

Health (Child Minding) Bill-On amend­ment to clause 2, 3897.

Housing Commission-On motion for ad­journment of the House, 3683.

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Divisions-continued. Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill-On second­

reading motion, 2671; on third-reading motion, 2673.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill­On clause 11, 2195.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill-On amendment to clause 3, 2580.

Litter Bill-On motion for second reading, 3766.

Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill-On amendment to clause 2, 2773.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-On motion for adjournment of the House, 3218.

National Parks Bill-On amendment to clause 4, 4040.

Obscene Publications-On amendment to the motion "That the Ministerial state­ment on the administration of the pro­visions of the Police Offences Act 1958 relating to obscene publications be printed," 3438.

Oil Installations-On motion for adjourn­ment of the House, 4014.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill-On amendments to clause 5, 4183.

Public Works Loan Application Bill-On motion "That progress be reported," 1124. On amendments to schedule, 1128, 1139.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-On second-reading motion, 1574. On clause 4, 2215. On third-reading motion, 2218.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill-On period of adjournment of second-reading debate, 3908.

Social Problems: Conditions in Fitzroy and Elsewhere-On motion for adjourn­ment of the House, 550.

Speaker, The-On disagreement with rul­ing, 2034.

State Electricity Commission (Amend­ment) Bill-On motion for adjournment of debate, 2779.

Superannuation Bill-On clause 27, 2460. Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill-On

second-reading motion, 1801. On third­reading motion, 1803.

Votes on Account, 450. Water Bill-On amendment to clause 7,

1566. Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust)

Land Bill-On third-reading motion, 1603.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisition of Land) Bill-On third reading, 3880.

Door to Door (Sales) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2175; second reading, 2199, 3052; remaining stages, 3056.

Dried Fruits. (See "Department of Agri­culture-Dried Fruits Industry.")

Drugs. (See" Department of Health-Drugs.")

Dunstan, Mr. R. C. (Mornington). Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens,

1683. Chiropractic and Osteopathic College of

Australasia, The, 3320. Country Roads Board-Access road to

Warneet, 3114. Death-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 3800. Housing Commission-Development of

Forest estate, Frankston, 3572. Karingal Estate, Frankston-Sewerage

scheme, 3859. Land Settlement-Road construction and

bore costs on French Island, 3114. Library Services-Regional library ser­

vices, 3115. Consideration by Board of Inquiry, 3115.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Compen­sation, and reimbursement of legal ex­penses and fees to'landowners, 3218.

Points of Order-Order of speakers, 1681. Statements in debate, 3528, 2582.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1825.

State Rivers and Water Supply, Commis­sion-Provision of private main for property owners in Craigie-road, Osborne, 3750. Flood gates at Tooradin, 3859.

Victorian Football League-Anzac Day fixtures, 3400.

E. Education-Standards and comparisons of

expenditure, 341, 438, 732, 902. Availa­bility of Ramsay report, 439, 674, 686, 687, 705, 879. Federal aid, 674, 880, 906. Pre-school and kindergarten needs, 725. Expenditure, 730, 742, 932. Suggested national inquiry, 731, 907. Report on State education, 731. Standard of English exhibited by Victorian candi­dates for matriculation, 855. Regional and social class variations, 903.

Education (Adult Education) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 3685; second reading, 3686, 3900; remaining stages, 3901.

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Education Department- Education Department-continued. Administration-Promulgation of regula­

tions, (qn.) 178. Provision of telephones in schools, 191, 708, 872, 901. School Dental Service, (qn.) 722; cost, (qn.) 3393. Applications for leave by foot­baller-teachers, (qn.) 722, 770, 772. Annual reports, (qn.) 2007. File re Arthur's Creek State School and teacher's residence, (qn.) 2284. Fees for Saturaay morning language classes, (qn.) 3241. Draft regulation re State schools mothers' clubs, (qn.) 3989.

Assembly Halls-Increased subsidy, 190, 687, 695, 704, 956. Policy, (qns.) 3024, 3188. Local contributions, (qn.) 519, 725, (qn.) 842,855. Applications for sub­sidies, (qn.) 587. Government's proposal, (qn.) 842. Seats for assembly halls, (qn.) 965.

Class-rooms-Temporary accommodation, 686. Portable class-rooms, 708, 936.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 188. Expenditure from Consolidated Revenue, 684. Expenditure, 901, (qn.) 2007. Sub­sidies for amenities, (qn.) 2282, (qn.) 2435, 2946. Sums raised by school com­mittees and advisory councils, (qn.) 2435. Amount paid to school works and building accounts, (qn.) 2435.

Free Milk Scheme-Use of Tetra-Pak, (qn.) 587. Storage of milk at schools, 2915.

High Schools-Proposed establishment at Brunswick, . (qn.) 384. Preston Girls' High School: Alterations and additions required, 440. Doveton High School: Newspaper report, 1238. Chadstone High School, 936. Provision of canteens 936. High school for Wonthaggi, (qns.) 1317, 1545. Selection and enrolment of students, (qn.) 1419. Proposed new Flemington High School, (qns.) 1783, 3394. Warragul High School: Water supply, (qn.) 2870. Hadfield High School: Toilet facilities, 3151, 3154. Fitzroy High School: Acquisition of land for extensions, (qn.) 3393. Teaching of German and Asian languages, (qn.) 3497. Northcote High School: Students and teachers, (qn.) 3498; staff turnover, (qn.) 3498; amenities, (qn.) 3498.

Land-Acquisition at North Albion: Street construction costs, (qn.) 520. Acquisi­tion and gifts of land, (qn.) 3123. Ac­quisition for primary school at Dallas North, (qn.) 3498. Acquisition at Wer­ribee, (qn.) 3862.

Libraries-Financial provision, 732, 904. Subsidies, 2885. Accommodation in smaller secondary schools, 2888.

Primary SchoolS-Number, (qn.) 383. Additional land for school in Reservoir electorate, 440. Shortage of class-rooms, 685. At Arthur's Creek: Request for file, ( qn.) 1545. Clerical assistance, (qn.) 1667. At Yarram: Head teacher's residence, (qn.) 2561; installation of sewerage, ( qn.) 2736; request for file, (qn.) 4140. George-street, Fitzroy, State School: Complaints re facilities, 3151, 3154.

Pupils-Raising of school leaving age, (qn.) 178, 341, 438, 683, 702, 707, 732. Number, (qn.) 383. Number of West Brunswick primary students entering high schools, (qn.) 384. Pupil-teacher ratio, 684, 703, 704, 855. Size of classes, 704, 731. School populations, 707, (qn.) 2007. Number attending schools in other States, (qn.) 3240; reciprocal arrangements re transport, (qn.) 3240. Classification, (qn.) 3989.

Scholarships-Increase, 190, 694, 705, 932, 959. Scholarships tenable at State and registered secondary schools, 694. Sug­gested brochure on scholarships, bur­saries and other assistance to students, (qn.) 965. Grants to students in junior form of secondary schools, 2889.

School Buildings-Sewerage connexions, 707, 872. Provision of fencing, 707. Ac­commodation in eight-class-room prim­ary schools, (qn.) 2560. Suggested use of former girls' school in Ballarat as high school, (qn.) 2735. Clearance of residue from building operations, (qn.) 3124.

Secondary Schools-Enrolments for 1964, (qn.) 178. Number, (qn.) 383. Needs of Cann River district, 395. Remedial classes, 439. Needs of Murrayville, 443. Shortage of staff, (qn.) 3123. Expendi­ture of science blocks, (qn.) 3188.

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Education Department-continued. Special Branches-Staff, (qn.) 2435. Ex­

penditure, (qn.) 2436. Activities, (qn.) 2436.

Staff-Employment of bursers and addi­tional clerical staff in schools, 687. Staffing of Research and Curriculum Branch, 904, (qn.) 1419; projects under­taken and completed, (qn.) 1419. Wages and conditions of school cleaners, 1760. Shortage in secondary schools, (qn.) 3123. Appointment of typists in schools, (qn.) 3988.

Teachers-Increase in bursaries, 190. Student teachers with university degrees, ( qn.) 312. Temporary teachers' qualifications, (qn.) 312. Student teachers in training, (qn.) 382, 686, 703. Primary teacher training, (qn.) 383. Number, (qns.) 383, 2007. Residences: Services provided,443. Need for hostel at Ouyen, 443. Temporary secondary teachers, 685, 703. Qualifications of secondary teachers, 686, 703, 904. Salary bill, 730. Closure of teachers' training college in Ballarat, 860. Injuries to woodwork teachers, (qn.) 1418. Number of physi­cal education teachers, (qn.) 1784. Cost of teachers' salaries, (qn.) 2007. In­struction of primary school teachers in cuisenaire method of teaching arith­metic, (qn.) 2435. Shortage of primary teachers, (qn.) 3988.

Technical Schools-At Williamstown: Re­siting and extension of buildings, (qn.) 383, 445. Remedial classes, 439. Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology: Training of overseas students, 880. Broadmeadows Technical School: Second and third stages, 935. For Port­land, (qn.) 1873. Sunshine Technical School: Extensions, (qn.) 3862.

Text-books-Standardization in primary and secondary schools, 332.

Transport of Scholars-Travelling allow­ances, 394, 2888. To technical school in Broadmeadows, 2892, 2940.

(See also "Public Works Department­Schools. ")

Elderly Citizens' Clubs-Government grants, (qn.) 3196.

Electoral-Melbourne West Province by­election, (qn.) 113, 446. Prosecutions for not voting, 446. Preferential voting, 2285.

Electrical Undertakings Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1821; second reading, 1878, 2583, 2736; appropriation resolu­tion, 2745; Committee and remaining stages, 2745.

Electronic Equipment-Need for registra­tion of trade personnel, 931.

Elwood Canal-Diversion project, (qn.) 4143. Employment-Situation in Victoria, 919.

Comparative figures, 3327. Estate Agents Act-Licences issued, (qn.)

385. Estate Agents (Amendment) Act-Promulga­

tion, (qn.) 3569. Protection of pur­chasers from malpractices, (qn.) 3569.

Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 4040; second reading, 4040, 4278; Committee, 4280; third reading, 4281.

Estate Agents Committee-Rules of profes­sional conduct, (qns.) 2436, 3399.

Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 170: second reading, 224, 391; remaining stages, 393.

Estimates-Final Supplementary Estimates for year 1962-63, 184, 220, 1751. Esti­mates of revenue and expenditure for year 1963-64, brought down, 184. Discussed: Parliament, 2779; Premier's Department, 2781; Chief Secretary's De­partment, 2786, 2878; Department of Labour and Industry, 2885; Education Department, 2885; Attorney-General's Department, 2893; Treasurer's Depart­ment, 2909; Lands Department, 2914; Public Works Department, 2914; Local Government Department, 2914; Mines Department, 2915; Forests Department, 2915; Water Supply Department, 2915; Department of Agriculture, 2915; De­partment of Health, 2915; Railway Con­struction, 2922; State Coal Mine 2923' Ministry of Transport, 2923; Railwa; Department, 2923. Debating procedure, 2782. Estimates of expenditure for July. 1964, brought down, 3324.

Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia (Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The-Introduction and first reading, 3244; declared a private Bill, 3254; motion to treat as public Bill agreed to, 3254; second reading, 3254, 3499; remaining stages, 3500. Resolution re payment of fees rescinded, 3684.

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Evans, Mr. A. T. (Ballaarat North). Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 3070. Estimates for Year 1963-64. 2926. Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2634. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1075. Railway Department-Request by Ballarat

Historical Society for preservation of Phoenix locomotive, 2926.

River Murray Waters Bill, 2096. River Murray Waters (Menindee l..Jakes

Storage) Bill, 2042. Superphosphate-Supply and deliveries,

3393. Weedicides and Pesticides-Article in

Ballarat Courier re effect on fish and wildlife, 1415.

Evans, Mr. B. J. (Gippsland East).

Aborigines Welfare Board-Home for aged aborigines in Gippsland, 755.

Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3265. Australian Coast Guard Auxiliary-Con­

stitution, 3129. Policing of motor boat­ing regulations, 3129.

Boat Harbors-Supervision and mooring fees, 3990.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 750. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­

ized Industries) Bill, 984. Country Roads Board-Grants to muni­

cipalities, 757. Case of R. A. Lamb, 3440.

Decentralization-Benefits, 394, 750. Education-Lack of secondary school

facilities in Orbost district, 751. Education Department-Travelling allow­

ances for children, 394. Secondary school facilities for Cann River children, 395. Work by Public Works Depart­ment, 753. Children attending schools near State borders, 3240. Classification of children, 3989.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2736. Fruit Fly-Regulations, 663, 755. Prose­

cutions and convictions, 663. Duties of inspectors, 755. Location of road blocks, 755.

Government Departments-Suggested de­centralization, 754.

Governor-Visits to country areas, 2051. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply,

2051. Housing-Provision for rural workers, 750. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

2114, 2950.

Evans, Mr. B. J.-continued. Lakes Entrance-Development of Gipps­

land lakes, 387. Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station-Residents,

181. Staff, nursing services, and over­time, 181.

Lands Department-Residences for inspec· tors, 721. Tostaree pilot farm, 3751.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 3026. Liberal and Country Party-Use of word

II Country" in title, 2052. Local Government Department-Bruthen

Mechanics' Institute, 3154. Mental Health Authority-Centres for

mentally retarded children in country areas, 756.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 3062. Motor Car Bill, 1482. Municipalities-Grants for road works,

757. Police Department-Motor Boating Squad,

3195. Application for appointment by Mr. K. J. Nelson, 3750.

Public Works Department-Sand-bar at Lakes Entrance, and development of lakes, 396, 2054. Maintenance and build­ing work for Education Department, 753. Public offices in Bairnsdale, 1417. Boat mooring fees and facilities, 2873.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1113. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1426. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 3904. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2031. Stamp Duty-Exemption of river improve­

ment trusts, 389. State Electricity Commission-Waiting

period for connexions, 588, 751. Group schemes in Gippsland, 588, 751. Calulu­Melwood-Flaggy Creek extension, 753. Extension to Erica, 753. Cartage of poles from Gippsland, 3930.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 613. Supply, 394. Tourist Development Authority-Develop­

ment of tourist industry in East Gipps­land, 398.

Transport by Road and Water-Common­wealth grants, 3242. Works undertaken, and cost, 3322, 3499.

Transport Regulation Board-Transport of house lots of timber, 2053.

Tuna Fishing-Development and trade out­lets, 3988.

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Evans, Mr. B. J.-continued.

Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend-ment) Bill, 2299.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) . Bill, 786. Water Bill, 1559.

Evidence (Affidavits) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 170; second reading, 224, 1809; remaining stages, 1810.

Explosives Branch-Findings re fatality at Eppalock reservoir, (qn.) 1072. Use of explosives, (qn.) 1073.

F. Fair Rents Board-Number of cases handled,

(qn.) 528. Prosecutions, (qn.) 528. "Controlled premises," (qn.) 528.

Farm Produce Agents Act-Breaches at Queen Victoria Market, (qn.) 3116. Policing of Act, (qn.) 3116.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3129; second reading, 3329, 3691, 3766; Committee, 3789, 4032.

Fennessy, Mr. L. M. (Brunswick East).

Air Pollution-Effects in Brunswick, 915, 1775.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 912. Clean Air Committee-Investigations in

City of Brunswick, 913, 961, 4140. Effects of air pollution, 915, 1775.

Clean Air Section-Finance and staff, 1776.

Co-operative Housing Societies-Interest rates, 4138.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill, 2758, 2766.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Guaran­tees) Bill, 593.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1693, 1712, 1713, 1714, 2376.

Decentralization-Recommendations of Distribution of Population Committee, 348. Government proposals, 912.

Education Department-Payment of fees for Saturday language classes, 3241. ACQuisition of land for extensions to Fitzroy High School, 3393.

Employment-Situation in Victoria, 919. 4567/64.--3

Fennessy, Mr. L. M.-continued. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2788, 2879.

Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 1774.

. Fern Tree Gully Estate-Misrepresentation in advertising brochure, 3614. Realiza­tion sale, 4139.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1816, 1819.

Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 3057.

Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill, 3501.

Home Finance Trust-Interest rates, 4138. Housing Advances and Loans (Improper

Commissions) Bill, 4027. Immigration-Decline in Dutch migra­

tion, 918. Land Settlement-Heytesbury scheme,

919. Programme, 921. Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2571. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2768, 2772. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Pensioners' rates, 720. Report on extensions of water storages, 912. Flooding of Merri creek at North Fitzroy, 3661.

Members-Answers to questions, 913. Newmarket Sale-yards and Abattoirs­

Removal, 350. Payne's Properties Pty. Ltd.-Operations,

347. Permanent Building Societies-Registra­

tion and investigation, 3127. Sale of society, 3658.

Point of Order-Relevancy of remarks, 1200.

Police Department-Strength of Force, 350. Men on "beat," 353. Brunswick police station, 721. Promotions within Department, 1544, 2879. Police college, 1782.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4159, 4163.

Public Works Department-New Bruns­wick court-house and police station, 721.

Public V/orks Loan Application Bill, 1117, 1136.

Railway Department-Hooliganism on trains, 353. Unmanned stations, 353.

Reid Murray Group-Operations, 347. Realization sale of Fern Tree Gully estate, 4139.

Road Traffic-Pedestrian crossing m Spring' street, 991, 1777, 3235.

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Fennessy, Mr. L. M.-continued. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2210. Social Problems-Conditions in Fitzroy

and elsewhere, 540, 542. State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill,

55. Supply, 346. Traditional Permanent Building Society­

Proposed sale of society, 3658. Traffic Commission-Traffic congestion in

Sydney-road, 2788. Victorian Inland Meat Authority-

Development of inland killing, 349. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1210.

Fern Tree Gully Estate-Misrepresentation in advertising brochure, 3614, (qn.) 4139.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 1370; second reading, 1550, 1815; Committee, 1819; remaining stages, 1820.

Firearms-Issue of licences, (qn.) 1414. Sale of rifles, (qn.) 1414. Gun dealers, (qn.) 1414. Issue and control of pistols and rifles, (qn.) 1414. Offences, (qn.) 1414.

Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3099, 3261; remaining stages, 3263.

Fisheries and Wildlife Department-Poison­ing of European carp in Yallourn dam, (qn.) 2009, 2789. Danger to trout in Latrobe river and tributaries, (qn.) 2009. Trout fishing, 2789. Death of birds at Hume weir, 2790. Revenue and expenditure, (qn.) 2873. Develop­ment of wildlife reserves, (qn.) 2873.

Fishing Industry-Mooring fees, (qn.) 3241, ( qn.) 3395. Effect of seals in Corio Bay, (qn.) 3859. Development of tuna fishing, ( qn.) 3988.

Floyd, Mr. W. L. (Williamstown).

Appleton Dock-Berthing of passenger ships, 966.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 883. Clean Air Committee-Use in Victoria of

new equipment manufactured in New South Wales, 3398.

Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement, 3527.

Floyd, Mr. W. L.-continued. Decimal Currency-Change-over arrange­

ments, 3569. Education Department-Williamstown

Technical School, 383, 445. Applica­tions for leave by footballer-teachers, 770.

Electoral-Melbourne West Province by­election, 113, 446. Prosecutions for non-voting, 446.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2740. Free Library Service Board-Subsidies

to municipalities, 110. Government Departments and Instru­

mentalities-Purchase and disposal of buildings and properties, 3397.

Hansard-Change in type face, 182, 445, 2874. Binding, 2874.

High Court of Australia-Statement by New South Wales ~inister of Justice, 3398.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Proposed employees' superannuation scheme, 318.

Housing-Lag in home construction, 449. Housing Commission-Availability of land

for elderly citizens' flats and low rental units, 585, 720. Slum abolition, 887. Municipal contributions for slum aboli­tion, 1418. Provision for prams in multi-storied flats, 2792.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1911, 1925, 1927.

Justices of the Peace-Applications, appointments and roll, 112, 446. Eligibility qualifications, 3243. Ap­pointees from Police Department, 3243.

Litter Bill, 3362. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1325. Melbourne Harbor Trust-Use of

Williamstown port facilities, 447. Over­seas passenger ships terminal, 966. Proposed dry dock at Williamstown, 1877. Dumping of silt dredged from Hobson's Bay, 3194, 3572. Tests relating to foreshore erosion and cur­rents, 3572. Loading facilities for foreign ships, 3243.

Members-Replies to matters raised in Parliament, 885.

Municipalities - Responsibilities and finance, 886. Contributions to Metro­politan Fire Brigades Board, 886. Areas of non-rateable land, 1188. Financial problems, 1188.

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Floyd, Mr. W. L.-continued.

Oil Installations-Fire-fighting precau­tions, 3991. Crown leases at Newport and Spotswood, 4140.

Pentridge Gaol-Compensation to injured prisoner, 181, 445.

Points of Order-Reference in debate to member by other than his electoral district, 158. Suspension of Standing Order 8B, 549. Statements in debate, 1138, 3677. Right of member to refuse leave when not occupying proper place in Chamber, 1910. Intention of Premier to speak to motion or to amendment, 3517. Relevancy of remarks, 3879.

Police Department-Strength of Force, 448, 885. Men on the "beat," 448. Presentation of credentials, 3570.

Port Phillip Bay-Corsair rock, 447, 584, 721, 887.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4177. Questions on Notice-Answers by Depart­

ments. 444. Railway Department - Spencer-street

station, 448. Inspection holes in guards vans, 449. Manning of suburban stations at night, 449. Shortage of staff, 884. Railway bridge between Parkdale and Mordialloc, 1316. Salaries and wages, 3575. Booking charges on Spirit of Progress, 3576.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1364. Road Traffic-Survey, 889. Sale of Goods-South Australian legis­

lation, 3190. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 3905. Supply, 444. Tattersall Consultations-Unclaimed prize

moneys, 3190. Underseas Mineral Resources Bill, 3064. Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust)

Land Bill, 1575, 1599, 1602, 1603. Yarra River-Widening, dredging and re­

construction of sewerage tunnel, 966. Zoological Gardens-Master plan for

development, 449. Attendances, 3570. Receipts, 3570. Government grants, 3570. Admission fees, 3570.

Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair­man of Committees­

Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 3579. No debate on question that progress be reported, 4033, 4034.

Fluoridation. (See" Commission of Public Health.")

Football. (See" Victorian Football League.")

Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill-Re­ceived from Council and first reading, 718; second reading, 780, 1811; remain­ing stages, 1812.

Forests Commission-1963-64 Budget state­ment, 201. Fire in Heyfield area, (qn.) 3399. Sleepers for Railway Depart­ment, (qn.) 3400. Departmental report on fires at Heyfield and Jamieson, (qns.) 3753, 3990. Summer fire restriction, (qn.) 3753.

Fraser, Mr. A. J. (Caulfield).

Country Industries-Declaration of ap­proved decentralized industries, 3115.

Country Roads Board-Access road to Warneet, 3114.

Maryborough Knitting Mills (Cuttle) Ltd. -Traralgon and Morwell es~ablish­

ments, 3393. 1VIount Buffalo National Park-Lease of

portion of area, 1070. National Parks Bill, 3684, 3873, 4039. Point of Order-Motion under Standing

Order No. 78D, 145. Swallow and Ariell Limited-Future

operations and arrangements, 3991. Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 1821, 1887,

1888. Victorian Inland Meat Authority-

Establishment of inland killing works, 3115.

Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill-Re­ceived from Council and first reading, 718; second reading, 781, 1814; remain­ing stages, 1814.

Freedom from Hunger Campaign-Govern­ment grant, 1778.

Free Library Service Board-Subsidies tt municipalities, (qns.) 110, 1546. Statu­tory obligation, 2887.

G. Gainey, Mr. R. J. (Elsternwick).

Agent-General-Administration, 2785. Education Department - Teaching of

German and Asian languages, 3497. Elwood Canal-Diversion project, 4143. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 4280.

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Gainey, Mr. R. J.-continued. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2785, 2909,

2920. Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 1778.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill, 3789.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1819.

Freedom from Hunger Campaign­Government grant, 1778.

Health, Department of - Provision of sample drugs, 2920.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works - Applications for rezoning, 387.

Mental Hospitals-Location, capacity and cost, 3495. Provision for dangerous patients, 3495.

Municipalities-Home-help schemes, 1778. Point of Order - Relevancy of remarks,

3588. Police Classification Board-Police Force

salaries, 387. Police Department - Proposed station at

Gardenvale, 388. Speed of traffic in Kooyong-road, 2909.

Railway Department - Lease and use of railway land at Elsternwick, 3663.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1451. Road Traffic - Construction of rounda­

bout at Glenhuntly-road and Brighton­road intersection, 4144.

Tattooing Prosecutions under Act, 2736.

Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3094, 3149; remaining stages, 3150.

Garrisson, Mr. P. W. (Hawthorn). Police Department - Need for motor

vehicle for use by Hawthorn Criminal Investigation Branch, 3932.

Supply, 408. Testro Brothers - Directors, 408.

Gas and Fuel Corporation-1963-64 Budget statement, 207. Uniform tariff, 724. Installation charge to consumers, (qn.) 964.

Geelong Planning Scheme-Protests re ring road, (qn.) 3189.

Gee10ng Waterworks and Sewerage (Amend­ment) Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 115; second reading, 214, 617; Committee and remaining stages, 618.

George Weston Foods Ltd. (See" Com­panies.")

Gibbs, Mr. G. S. (Portland).

Education Department-Dental treatment, 722. Technical school for Portland, 1873.

Fluoridation of Town Water Supplies­Committee of inquiry, 1873.

Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 48. Milk and Dairy Supervision Act-Procla­

mation of milk districts, 1781. Areas under municipal control, 1875, 2009. Licence-fees, 1875.

Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill, 2638.

Gillett, Mr. R. M. (Geelong West).

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­ized Industries) Bill, 977, 1332, 1834.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2), 3146.

Hansard-Report of speech, 1021, 1073. Point of Order-Statement in debate, 1335.

Glass-Broken glass on roads and beaches, 2474.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 4186; second reading, 4186; remaining stages, 4187.

Government Departments and Instrumen­talities-Representations of members of Parliament, 331, 429. Responsibilities of officers, 340. Suggested decentraliza­tion, 754. Industrial relations, 761. Handling of contracts, 910. Financial responsibilities, 912. Control of, 944. Use of privately-owned buildings, (qn.) 1667. Employees, (qns.) 3124, 3187. Purchase and disposal of buildings and properties, (qn.) 3397.

Government Offices-Proposed new block in Treasury-place, (qn.) 1191.

Government Printing Office-Availability of copies of Acts of Parliament, 1760.

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Governor, His Excellency, Major-General Sir Rohan Delacombe, K.C.M.G., K.B.E., C.B., D.S.O., K.St.J.-Motion for adop­tion of Address-in-Reply to His Excellency's Speech on opening of Parliament, 38; seconded, 48; debated, 2043, 2929; agreed to, 3080; presenta­tion, 3088. Visits to country areas, 2051, 2055, 2929.

Governor's Salary Bill-Appropriation reso­lution, 1194; introduction and first read­ing, 1194; second reading, 1442; remain­ing stages, 1444.

Grain Elevators Board-1963-64 Budget statement,207. Handling charges, (qn.) 721. Bulk handling of barley, (qn.) 1420.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill­Appropriation resolution, 115; introduc­tion and first reading, 115; second read­ing, 319, 782; remaining stages, 783.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2) - Appropriation resolution, 3090; introduction and first reading, 3090; second reading, 3090, 3141; remaining stages, 3149.

Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2086; second reading, 2177, 3057; remaining stages, 3060.

Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing Order, 967, 1693, 2286, 3754.

H. "Hansard "-Change in type face, (qn.) 182,

445, (qn.) 2874. Availability of proofs, 453, 990, 992. Report of member's speech, 1021, 1022, 1073. Binding of books, (qn.) 2874. Pulls of members' speeches, 3792.

Hazelwood-Development of town, 2944. (See also "Housing Commission­Housing Settlements" and " State Electricity Commission - Hazelwood Power Station.")

Health. (See "Department of Health.")

Health (Amendment) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3888; second reading, 4020, 4187, 4192; Committee, 4192; remaining stages, 4194.

Health (Child Minding) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3532; second reading 3595, 3881; Committee, 3888, 3893; remaining stages, 3898.

High Court of Australia-Statement by New South Wales Minister of Justice, (qn.) 3398.

Holden, Mr. J. B. (Moonee Ponds).

Cultural Development-Grants to cultural societies, 3122.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill, 3771.

Oil Installations-Fire-fighting precautions, 4009.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1249.

Holding, Mr. A. C. (Richmond).

Aborigines Welfare Board-Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station: Agricultural re­port, 181; removal of families, 520. Aboriginal population, 384. Employ­ment and social service payments, 384.

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill, 3150.

Australian Education Council-Report and recommendations, 2284, 2793, 3153.

Books and Magazines-Communications by Chief Secretary with distributors, 3320.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 899. Clothing Industry-Provision of dining

and rest rooms in factories, 3661. Records and prosecutions, 3871. Out­side workers, 3872,

Commonwealth Government-Tax remis­sions for gifts to technical schools, 3124.

Crimes (Aircraft) Bill, 3026. Cultural Development--Grants and allo­

cations, 3122. Dry Cleaning Depots-Hours of trading,

3871. Education-Standards, 902. Regional and

social class variations, 903. Need for Commonwealth assistance, 906. Com­monwealth inquiry into education, 907. Federal Government election promise re scholarships for secondary and technical schools, 3123.

Education Department-School leaving age, 178. Secondary school enrolments for 1964, 178. Student teachers: Num­ber in training, 382; university degrees, 312. Temporary teachers' qualifications, 312. Primary teacher training, 383. Teachers and pupils in State primary and secondary schools, 383. Expendi­ture, 901. Installation of telephones at

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Holding, Mr. A. C.-continued. schools, 901. Curriculum and Research Branch, 904, 1419. Secondary teachers' qualifications, 904. School libraries, 904. Injuries to woodwork teachers, 1418. Selection and enrolment of high school students, 1419. Acquisition and gifts of land, 3123.

Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill, 1812.

Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill, 1814,

Housing Commission-Play areas in Anderson-Elizabeth streets, Richmond, estate, 520. A~commodation of pensioners, 3188, 3243. Number of children and play areas in Vere-street. Collingwood, estate, 3572.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2648, 2672. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill.

2185. Labour and Industry, Department of­

Breaches of legislation: Inspectors and union officials, 3575.

Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2632. Law Department-Stipendiary magistrates,

2283. Mount Buffalo National Park-Lease of

portion of area, 1069. Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Compen-

sation to landowners, 3210. Obscene Publications, 3234. Overseas Investments in Australia, 899. Parliamentary Library-Availability of The

Group, 3267. Personal Explanation-Incident during

debate, 3615. Activities of Ustashi in Victoria, 3603.

Points of Order-Tabling of document quoted from, 543. Statements in debate, 544, 1468,2024, 3269. Order of speakers, 1683. Wording of motion under Stand­ing Order 8B, 3199. Relevancy of re­marks, 2013.

Police Department-Dossiers on fascist and neo-nazi type organizations and individuals, 3749.

Privilege, Question of, 3983. Process Servers and Inquiry Agents

(Qualification) Bill, 4028. Public Works, Department-Traralgon

Psychiatric Hospital, 586, 1666. Railway Department-Roofing of Cam­

berwell station, 3318; agreement be­tween Commissioners and J.H.K. Proprietary Limited, 3318.

Holding, Mr. A. C.--continued. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1353, 1465. Social Problems-Conditions in Fitzroy

and elsewhere, 546. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2021. Supply, 3586. Teachers Tribunal-Claims for salaries

and conditions, 178. Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill,3899. Transfer of Land (Service Agreements)

Bill, 3255. Traralgon Psychiatric Hospital-Estimated

cost and date of opening, 586, 1666. Universities-Numbers of students, 904.

Student-staff ratio, 905. Quotas, 905. Standards, 905.

University of Melbourne-Inquiry into tQachers' colleges, 311. Failure rate, 904.

Ustashi-Activities in Victoria, 3586, 3603. Yarra Bend National Park-Repair of

bridge', 2472.

Holland, Mr. K. M. S. (Flemington).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 866. City of Melbourne Underground Railway

Construction Bill, 2746, 2756. Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill,

3065, 3071, 3073, 3074. Education Department -Provision of

sewerage and telephones in schools, 872. Flemington High School, 1783, 3394.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill, 3778.

Government-Cabinet and Ministerial responsibility, 873.

Health (Amendment) Bill, 4187, 4192, 4193.

Hepatitis and Gastro-enteritis, 527. Immigration-Provision of essential ser­

vices for migrants, 869. Industrial Appeals Court-Fees and ex­

penses of bread industry reference, 3397.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2568. 2577.

Litter Bill, 3342, 3757. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1329. Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree

Gully) Bill, 550. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Water supply and sewerage, 523. Loan funds and revenue, 523. Dis­charge of sewage into Yarra river,

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Holland, Mr. K. M. S.-continued. 874. Loan allocations, 875. Report of Town and Country Planning Board, 3754.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 3060. Municipalities-Report of inquiry, 873.

Disabilities, 873. Loan raisings, 874. Exemptions from rating, 874. Social services, 874.

Overseas Investment in Australia, 866. Pan Closets and Septic Tanks-Installa­

tion, 525. Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3919. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1011,

1129, 1133, 1135, 1138. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1253. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 4150, 4156, 4165. State Rivers and Water Supply Com­

mission-Mount Eliza reservoir inquiry, 873.

Superannuation Bill, 2459. Taxation-Incidence of State taxation, 872. Uniform Taxation - Reimbursements

formula, 870. Suggested abolition, 872. Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2296, 3057.

Home Finance (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 57; second reading, 60, 599; remaining stages, 602.

Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3244; recision of Order of the House for second reading, 3255; second read­ing, 3258, 3501; remaining stages, 3506.

Home Finance Trust. (See" Housing­Home Finance Trust.")

Horse-racing-Financial scheme, (qn.) 389: Profits distributed, (qn.) 389. Amalga­mation of country race clubs, (qn.) 1545, 1753. Allocation of country race days, (qn.) 2010. Activities of starting­price bookmakers, 2786. (See also "Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill," "Racing (Totalizators) Bill," "Totali­zator Agency Board" and "Trotting Control Board.")

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill­Received from Council and first reading, 2085; second reading, 2180, 3074; re­maining stages, 3080.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Administration-Diagnostic investigations

by staff of Government subsidized hos­pitals, (qn.) 843.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­continued.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 195. Fees paid to architects, (qn.) 1192. Collections and disbursements from Hospital Payment Fund and Motor Car Act, (qn.) 3319.

Hospitals and Homes-Corryong hospital requirements, 423. Public hospitals: Number of beds, (qn.) 518; number of patients, (qn.) 518; staffing, (qn.) 518. Availability of beds for aged persons, (qn.) 519, 933, (qn.) 1541; waiting lists, 1541. Traralgon Psychi­atric Hospital: Estimated cost, ( qn.) 586; date of opening, (qn.) 586. Heales­ville District Hospital: Report of Board of Inquiry, 678. Geriatric institutions: Accommodation and waiting lists, 924. Shortage of nurses, 927. Employment of salaried specialists, 927. Boards of management system, 928. Queen Elizabeth Home, 953. Hospitals in­cluded in Second Schedule to Hospitals and Charities Act, (qn.) 1875. Shelley Memorial Hospital, Bunyip: Tenders for construction, (qn.) 2282. Royal Mel­bourne Hospital: Eligibility for admis­sion, 2917. Benevolent homes in metro­politan area, (qn.) 3861; number of beds, (qn.) 3861.

Staff-Proposed superannuation schemes, (qn.) 318, 929. Training,954. Shortage of trained nurses, 2917.

House Committee-Assembly members ap­pointed, 50. Membership, 2781.

Housing-Administration-Suggested establishment

of advisory bureau, 740, 851. Building Societies. (See " Permanent

Building Societies.") Co-operative Housing Societies-1963-64

Budget statement, 201. Number operat­ing, (qn.) 524, 736, 951. Finance, 734. Number of houses constructed, 735. Maximum loans, 735. Membership, 735. Value of system, 948. (See also "Co­operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill" and " Co-operative Hous­ing Societies (Guarantees) Bill.")

Finance-Amounts invested, 737. Pro­VISIon of finance by ,private savings banks, 738, 949. Interest rates, (qn.) 4138.

Home Finance Trust-1963-64 Budget statement, 201. Second mortgage loans, (qn.) 318. Interest rate, (qn.) 318.

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Housing-continued. Waiting list, 960. (See also .. Home Finance (Amendment) Bill" and .. Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill.")

Homes-Shortage, 449, 713, 949. Numb.1'. built, (qn.) 524. Target, 711. Decline in construction by Housing Commission, 713. Provision for rural workers, 750.

Housing Advances and Loans (Improper Commissions) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 4014; second reading, 4026; remaining stages, 4028.

Housing Commission-Administration-Findings of Royal Com­

mission, ( qn.) 171; implementation, (qn.) 172. Investment of funds, (qn.) 173. Definition of metropolitan and country areas, (qn.) 178. Labour party questionnaire, 228. Case of Mrs. Morton, deceased, 900. Printing of annual reports, (qn.) 2871. Co­operation with Social Welfare Branch, 2920. Valuers employed and duties, (qn.) 3573. Valuations, (qn.) 3573.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 200. Homes-Proportions built and sold in

country and metropolitan areas, (qn.) 101, 2944. Tenancy applications, (qn.) 101, (qn.) 175,948, 960; by pensioners, (qn.) 3243. Units built, (qn.) 175. Sales, (qn.) 175, (qn.) 1782; deposit and interest rates, (qn.) 1782; condi­tions and priorities, (qn.) 4143. Qualities of monolithic concrete walls, (qn.) 176. Complaints re cold, damp and condensation, (qn.) 176. Costs of heating, hot water, construction and land, (qn.) 310. .. Darby and Joan" and single person units, (qns.) 585, 2008, 3188, 3871. Low rental units, (qn.) 585. Decline in construction, 713. Accommodation for elderly citizens in Oakleigh, (qn.) 719, 771, 772. Flats in Williamstown, (qn.) 720. Transfer of tenants, (qn.) 1874. Availability for purchase and rental, (qn.) 1874. Pro­vision for prams in multi-storied flats, 2792, 2793. Glenroy estate: Availa­bility for purchase, and sale price, (qn.) 3989.

Housing Settlements-Laverton estate, 356, (qn.) 388; remedial treatment for dampness and fungus mould, (qn.) 388.

Housing Commission-continued. Anderson-Elizabeth streets, Richmond, estate: Playing areas, (qn.) 520. Car parking facilities at The Mall shopping centre, Heidelberg, (qn.) 589. Carlton estates: Building of flats, (qn.) 846; programme, 1765. Provision of open space, 938. Fitzroy estates: Play areas and recreational facilities, ( qn.) 2871; provision of car parks, (qn.) 2871. Forest estate, Frankston: Development, erection of houses, (qn.) 3572. Vere­street, Collingwood, estate: Children, (qn.) 3572; play areas, (qn.) 3572. Hazelwood project, (qn.) 4143.

Land-Availability for low rental and "Darby and Joan" units, (qn.) 585. Acquisition in Carlton for Motor Regis­tration Branch and Transport Regu­lation Board, ( qns.) 665, 846. For flats in Williamstown, (qn.) 720. Sur­render of surplus land by other authori­ties, (qn.) 720. Contribution by municipalities for elderly citizens, 926. Sale of land in Broadmeadows, 1716, 1717, (qn.) 3395, (qn.) 3396, 3664, (qn.) 3573; report of Real Estate and Stock Institute of Victoria, (qn.) 3396; advertising of sales, ( qn.) 3396. Ac­quisition of land in Broadmeadows, (qn.) 3499; zoning classification, (qn.) 3499.

Rents-Fixation, (qns.) 172, 175. Re­bates, (qn.) 175. Averaging, ( qn.) 2008. Range for three-bedroom units. (qn.) 2008.

Services-Water supply to certain areas, (qn.) 2010.

Slum Reclamation-Municipal contribu­tions,887, (qn.) 1418. North Melbourne project: Cost of acquisition and clearance of land, (qn.) 3870; develop­ment, (qn.) 3870; erection of flats, (qn.) 3870.

Tenants-Accommodation of social wel­fare cases, (qn.) 172. Number, (qn.) 175. Notices to quit, (qn.) 175. Vaca­tion of premises, ( qn.) 175. Eviction proceedings against Heywood tenant, (qn.) 177.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill-Re­ceived from Council and first reading, 718; second reading, 778, 1911; Com­mittee, 1924; remaining stages, 1927.

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Hyland, Sir Herbert (Gippsland South).

Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens, 1681.

Agent-General-Reorganization of office, 2785. Purchase of home in London, 2785.

Albert Park Reserve-Removal of Defence Department building, 3392.

Assassination of John F. Kennedy, President of the United States of America, 2432.

Australian Universities Commission-Per­sonnel, and occupations, 3987. Person­nel of Committee on Future of Tertiary Education, 3987.

Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, 2311.

Bread Industry-Bakeries licensed in metropolitan area, 3195.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 691, 701.

Business of the House-Order of business, 116, 1194, 1271. Hours of sitting, 1780.

Chairman of Committees-Disagreement with ruling, 893.

City of Melbourne Underground Railway Construction Bill, 2752.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decent­ralized Industries) Bill, 974, 1901, 1907.

Commission of Public Health-Fluorida­tion of town water supplies, 966.

Commonwealth Aid Roads Act-Grants to Victoria, and allocations to metropolitan and country areas, 317, 2946, 3870. Commonwealth conference, 4139, 4281.

Communists-Police dossier, 3195.

Companies Act-Activities of directors of building companies in liquidation, 182. Investigation of affairs of Clayton Timber and Trading Company Pro­prietary Limited and associated com­panies, 183.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill, 2766.

Country Fire Authority-Supply of equip­ment to urban and rural fire brigades, 1876. Bush fire precautions in Dan­denong Ranges, 2735, 2874. Use of pri­vate aircraft in fire spotting operations, 3241, 3492.

Country Halls-Government subsidies, 2944.

Hyland, Sir Herbert--continued.

Country Industries-Declaration of ap­proved decentralized industries, 3115. (See also "La Mode Holdings Limi­ted" and "Maryborough Knitting Mills (Cuttle) Limited.")

Country Recreation and Sports Grounds­Money from Municipalities Assistance Fund, 3242.

Country Roads Board-Expenditure on roads and bridges. 97, 179. Revenue estimates, 97. Reconstitution, 701. Status and salary of chairman, 2870.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 3068, 3072.

Dairying Industry-Butter production and stocks, 3116 ..

Deaths-The Hon. Ian Macfarlan, 3316. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 3798.

Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob­jected to, 3367.

Distribution of Population Committee­Recommendations, 1191, 1418. Sub­missions to Federal Government, 1418. Country housing recommendation, 2944.

Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 3056. Education-Scholarships tenable at

secondary schools, 694. Education Department-Promulgation of

regulations, 178. Suggested standard­ization of text-books, 332. Assembly halls, 519, 587, 695, 842, 965, 3024, 3188. Use of Tetra-Pak in free milk scheme, 587. Suggested brochure on scholarships, bursaries and other educational assistance, 965. Subsidies for amenities in State schools, 2282, 2946. Primary school accommodation, 2560. Yarram primary school, 2561, 4140. Installation of sewerage at Yarram State School, 2736. Expenditure on science blocks in secondary schools, 3188. Cost of school dental treatment, 3393. Draft regulations for State schools mothers' clubs, 3989.

Elderly Citizens' Clubs-Grants, 3196. Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2592. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2780, 2781,

2782, 2785, 2786, 2788, 2909. Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 1752. Debating procedure, 2782.

Fair Rents Board-" Controlled" premi­ses, 528. Prosecutions of landlords, 528.

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Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued. Farm Produce Agents Act-Breaches at

Queen Victoria Market, 3116. Policing of Act, 3116.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill, 4036.

Fisheries and Wildlife Department-De­struction of European carp, 2009, 2789.

Fishing Industry-Facilities and mooring charges for professional fishermen, 3241, 3395.

Free Library Service Board-Grants to municipalities, 1546.

Geelong Fishermen's Association-Seal menace to equipment, 3859.

George Weston Foods Limited-Share­holders, 3195. Balance-sheet and profit, 3195.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 4187. Government Departments and Instru­

mentalities-Representations of mem­bers of Parliament, 331, 294l.

Government Offices-Proposed new block in Treasury-place, 119l.

Governor's Salary Bill, 1443. Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply,

294l. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3897. Horse-racing-Amalgamation of country

clubs, 1545, 1753. Allocation of race days to country clubs, 2010. Activities of starting-price bookmakers, 2786.

Hospital Payment Fund-Amounts col­lected, 3319. Disbursement, 3319.

Hospitals and Charities Commission-Fees paid to architects, 1192.

House Committee-Membership, 2781. Housing Commission - Definition of

"country area," 178. Percentage of dwellings erected in country, 2944. Hazelwood project, 2944, 4143.

Immigration, 312, 313. Industrial Gas-Shortage of supplies, 3266. Jack Smith's Lake-Visit of inspection,

3858. Flooding, 3858. Keith Turnbull Research Station, Frank­

ston-Estimated cost, 256l. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Com­

mission, 148, 1318. Government dis­cussions with parties re finance for repairs, 589, 1318. Effectiveness of repairs, 844. Statements by expert committee and Melbourne and Metro­politan Board of Works, 1318.

Korman Group of Companies-Investi­gation, 314, 2874.

Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued. La Mode Holdings Limited-Employment

at Traralgon and Morwell, 1318, 1669. Government assistance, 1318, 1752.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 1343. Landlord and Tenant Act-Rent control,

700. Land Ta~ (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2578,

3026. Latrobe Valley-Employment for young

'people, 2009. Law Department-Office accommodation

for Judges and senior law officers, 332, 845. Clerical assistance, 845. Salaries of judiciary, 845. Hearing of divorce cases, 3189.

Legislative Assembly-Suspension of sit­ting for dinner, 2780.

Liquor Inquiry-Terms of reference, 844. Commencement, 844.

Litter Bill, 3349, 3366, 3921. Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree

Gully) Bill, 552. Loy Yang Coalfield-Investigation, 2735. Margarine-Quota system, 3116. Inter­

state production and trade, 3116. Maryborough Knitting Mills (Cuttle) Limi­

ted-Traralgon and Morwell establish­ments, 3393.

Mechanics' Institutes and Public HaUs­Land tenure, 332.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works - Publicity department, 98. Future freeway planning, 98. Recon­struction of Board, 98. Proposed ex­tension of South-Eastern Freeway, 98, 319, 328. Statement on Kings Bridge, 1318.

Melbourne Metropolitan Water Supply­Use of waters from Big and Thomson rivers, 4138.

Members-Leave of absence for Mr. Brose, 3088. Appreciation of services of re­tiring members, 4294.

Mental Hospitals-Commonwealth grants for capital works, 3318.

Metropolitan Area-Extension of boun­daries, 1876.

Milk Board-Treasury account, 1071. Minister of Public Works-Appointment

as Agent-General, 3935. Ministry-Appointment of Mr. Balfour as

Minister of Water Supply and Minister of Mines, 3981.

Monash University-Total students and numb2r from Gippsland, 3861.

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Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued.

Motor Car Act-Amount collected from £1 surcharge, 3319.

Motor Car Bill, 807, 1475, 1791, 1792. Motor Cars-Installation of safety belts

as standard equipment, 317, 3659. Motor Registration Branch-Suggested

amalgamation with Transport Regula­tion Board, 1669, 1876. Building sites, 1191, 1876.

Mount Eliza Reservoir Inquiry-Costs, 844. Findings, 844.

Municipal Electrical Undertakings-Acquisition by State Electricity Com­mission, 526. Financial position, 722.

Municipalities Assistance Fund-Subsi­dies for country recreation and sports grounds, 3242.

National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre -Government contribution, 1315.

National Parks Bill, 4038, 4039. Newmarket Sale-yards-Charges for use

of stock bridge, 1191, 1316. Off-course Totalizator-Contributions of

race clubs, 1417. Oil Installations-Fire-fighting precautions,

4004. Parliament - Appointment of officers,

3086. Parliament House-Improvement of facili­

ties, 451. Condition of kitchen utensils, 451.

Petrol-Price, 2437. Petrol Tax-Collections in Victoria, 841.

Finance for road works, 841. Pincini Camp, Mirboo North, 1754. Points of Order-Member making speech,

129. Right to speak again in Budget debate after amendment has been moved, 890, 893. Right of member to move that progress be reported, 894. Statements in debate, 894, 1904, 3360. Relevancy or remarks, 897, 2777. Order of speakers, 1682. Confusion in voting on division, 4182.

Police Department-Extraneous duties of Force, 330. Transfer of East Gippsland police headquarters, 2735. Speeding in Hotham-street, East St. Kilda, 2788. Dossier on Communists, 3195.

Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3913. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2286. Port Phillip Bay-Corsair rock, 331. Probate Duty (Amendment) Bill, 1320. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 1823.

Hyland, Sir Herbert--continued.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 3244, 4167, 4174, 4176, 4178, 4181, 4191.

Public Works Department - Oncost charges, 316, 1418. Costs of architectu­ral building section, 2009. File re school footbridge at Foster, 3242.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1002. Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill, 4036. Railway Department-Motor car accidents

at level crossings, 316, 329. Proposed underground railway, 317, 526, 700. Profit on country goods traffic, 3396.

Railway Lands Bill, 3229. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1229. Roads-Suggested establishment of single

authority, 98. Road Traffic-Suggested heavier penalties

for traffic breaches, 330. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 1574,

2201, 2208. Royal Family-Birth of Royal Prince, 3186. Sale Swimming Pool, 3662. San Remo-Newhaven Bridge-Proposed

new bridge, 2438. Sessional Period, Close of -Christmas

felicitations, 3081. Sewerage Authorities-Government sub­

sidies, 98, 1755. Rating, 3988. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 3907, 4044, 4045. South-Eastern Freeway-St. Kevin's Col­

lege, 1417. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2020. Stamp Du ty-Issue of High Court writ

on behalf of hire-purchase companies, 3659. Revenue, 3659.

Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1347. State Development-Assistance to organi­

zations, 179. State Electricity Commission-Electricity

charges, 315. Acquisition of municipal undertakings, 526. Construction faults at Hazelwood power station, 3082, 3242, 3318, 3395. Warrandyte-road electrical sub-station, 3122.

State Electricity Commission (Amend­ment) Bill, 1319, 2774, 2776, 2778, 2779.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 616. State Rivers and Water Supply Com­

mission-Rivers and Streams Fund, 1071. Capital works formula, 3659. Country sewerage rates, 2942, 3988. Rates of country waterworks trusts, 3394.

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Hyland, Sir Herbert-continued. State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 54

State Service Concert Orchestra-Activi­ties, 2909.

Supply, 327.

Tattersall Consultations-Payments to estate of late George Adams and New Zealand Government, 3115, 3318. Publi­cation of balance-sheet, 3115. Services of trustees, 3658.

Taxation-Comparison of State taxation, 693.

Teaching Service Act-Suggested amend­ment, 1669, 1754.

Thalidomide-Babies affected, and Govern­ment assistance, 3394.

Totalizator Agency Board-Yearly profits and distribution, 99, 389.

Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 1888.

Trading Stamp Schemes-Promotion, 3241.

Transport Regulation Board-Permits for transport of farm machinery, 331. Building sites, 1191, 1876. Suggested amalgamation with Motor Registration Branch, 1669, 1876. Use of motor trans­port by declared decentralized indus­tries, 3197.

Tullamarine Jetport-Proposed freeway, 1417.

Uniform Taxation-Restoration of State's taxing powers, 316, 327.

University Education-Establishment of university colleges, 3748. Proposed third university, 3749, 3986, 4138, 4139. Reservation of land for University of Melbourne and Monash University, 3749.

Victorian Football occupancy, 2872. receipts, 2872.

League-Ground Distribution of

Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Estab­lishment of inland killing works, 3115.

Water Supply-Supply to certain Housing Commission areas, 2010.

Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1217, 1223.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 1589.

Yarra River-Reconstruction of sewer tunnel under river, 3237. Lower Yarra crossing, 3319.

I.

Immigration - Commonwealth-State co-operation, (qn.) 312. Migrants to Victoria, (qn.) 312; from Holland, 918. Employment, (qn.) 312. Screening in United Kingdom, (qn.) 312. Applicants for and availability of passages from United Kingdom, (qn.) 313. Provision of essential services for migrants, 869. Foreign language newspapers and broad­casts, 883.

Industrial Appeals Court-Fees and ex­penses in connexion with bread industry reference, (qn.) 3397.

Industrial Gas-Shortage, (qn.) 3266, 3270. Insurance-Loss on compulsory third-party

underwriting, 404.

J. Jenkins, Dr. H. A. (Reservoir).

Aged Persons-Hospital accommodation, 924, 1541.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 923. Education-Standards and comparisons of

expenditure, 438. Availability of Ramsay report, 439.

Education Department-School leaving age, 438. Remedial classes in secondary schools, 439. Additional land for primary school in Reservoir electorate, 440. Preston Girls' High School, 440. Expenditure, 932. Junior Government scholarships, 932.

Electronic Equipment-Need for system of registration, 931.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2917, 2918. Health, Department of-Poliomyelitis

vaccines, 388, 928, 2918; methods of injection, 928. Compulsory X-rays, 928. Measles vaccine, 2919. Sterilization of needles used in mass immunization programmes, 2919.

Hospitals - Suggested employment of salaried specialists, 927. Boards of management, 928. Employees' super­annuation benefits, 929. Institutions included in Second Schedule to Hos­pitals and Charities Act, 1875.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill, 3074.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Availability of beds in homes for the aged, 519, 924. Shortage of nurses, 927, 2917.

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Jenkins, Dr. H. A.-continued.

Housing Commission--Contributions by municipalities, 926.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill, 3891. .

Medical Profession-:-Shortage of doctors, 927.

Monash University - Provision of hos­pital, 927.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill, 3898.

Opticians Registration (Fees and Penal­ties) Bill, 3149.

Police Department-Blood alcohol and breathalyzer tests by police surgeons, 1416, 1543.

Public Transport-Needs of Whittlesea area, 440.

Public Works Department-Public address systems in schools, 439. Laying of linoleum in schools, 440.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1107. Railway Department-Electrification of

Lalor to Epping line, 388, 440. Siting of Ruthven railway station, 441.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1358. Social Welfare Branch-Pensions, 1370. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2030. Supply, 437. Television and Radio - Hire-purchase

agreements, 929. Servicing agreements, 930, 1715.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill, 790.

Victorian Nursing Council-Standards of nurse education, 1416. Trained nurses for future needs, 1416.

J.H.K. Pty. Ltd. (See" Companies.")

Judges' Pensions Bill-Appropriation resolu­tion, 2176; introduction and first read­ing, 2176; second reading, 2312, 2439; remaining stages, 2441.

Judges Salaries and Allowances Bill­Appropriation resolution, 1194; introduc­tion and first reading, 1194; second reading, 1441, 1831; remaining stages, 1832.

Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 170; second reading, 225, 1810; remaining stages, 1811.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1820; second reading, 1890, 2648; Committee, 2671; third read­ing, 2672.

Juvenile Delinquency-Age groups of offenders, (qns.) 102, 515. Convictions and penalties, (qns.) 102, 515. Action by police and social welfare staff, (qn.) 102. Preventive measures, (qn.) 102. Incidence in Essendon electorate, 355.

K. Kennedy, John F. (See "Assassination of

John F. Kennedy, President of the United States of America.")

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commission, 36, 326, 674, 691. Motion that House take note of report, 116, 2601, 2631; Mr. Stoneham's amendment, 147. Cost of repairs, 326, (qn.) 3120. Insurance, ( qn.) 589. Government discussions with parties re finance for repairs, (qn.) 589, (qn.) 1318, 2601, 2631, 2786, (qn.) 3120. Future, (qn.) 844. Government responsibility, 873, (qn.) 3120. State­ment of expert committee and Mel­bourne and Metropolitan Board of Works, (qn.) 1318. Original cost, (qn.) 3120.

Korman Group. (See" Companies.")

L. Labour and Industry. (See" Department of

Labour and Industry.")

Labour and Industry Act-Availability of loose copies, 1779.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 1469; second reading, 1744, 2107, 2185; Com­mittee, 2193; third reading, 2198. Council amendments dealt with, 2949.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill -Introduction and first reading, 3684; second reading, 3689, 3888; Committee and remaining stages, 3893.

Labour and Industry (Cost of Living) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 1319.

Labour and Industry (Employment of Child­ren) Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 2438; second reading, 2461, 2641; remaining stages, 2641.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Dill-In­troduction and first reading, 3245.

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Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station-Agricul­tural report, (qn.) 181. Number of residents, (qn.) 181. Staff: Number, (qn.) 181; overtime, (qn.) 181. Nursing services, (qn.) 181. Removal of families, (qn.) 520; employment, (qn.) 521. (See also "Aborigines Welfare Board.")

Land (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 967; second reading, 1020, 1340; remaining stages, 1346.

Landlord and Tenant Act-Rent control, 700, 945.

Lands Department-Provision of residences for inspectors, (qn.) 721. Keith Turn­bull Research Station, Frankston: Cost, (qn.) 2561. Tostaree Pilot Farm, (qn.) 3751.

Land Settlement. (See" Rural Finance and Settlement Commission.")

Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 2285; second reading, 2316, 2632; remaining stages, 2635.

Land Tax. (See "Taxation-Land Tax.")

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill - Intro­duction and first reading, 2176; second reading, 2286, 2563; Committee, 2573; resolution fixing rates, 2573; remaining stages, 2580. Council suggested amend­ments dealt with, 3025.

Latrobe Valley-Employment at La Mode Holdings Limited, (qn.) 1318, ( qn.) 1669, 1752. Closure of factories, (qn.) 1669, 1752. Employment for young people, (qn.) 2009.

Law Department-Accommodation-For Judges and senior

officers, 332. Additions and improve­ments, (qn.) 845.

Administration-Justices of the peace: Applications and appointments, (qn.) 112, 446; roll, (qn.) 112; eligibility qualifications, (qn.) 3243; appointees from Police Department, (qn.) 3243. Additional clerical assistance, (qn.) 845. Legal assistance by Public Solicitor, (qn.) 3399.

Courts-Cases awaiting hearing, ( qn.) 184, 413, 853. For Altona North, 957. For Robinvale, 2055. Committals for trial by courts of petty sessions, (qn.) 2283. Hearing of divorce cases, (qn.) 3189.

Law Department-continued. Crime - Number of offences, (qn.) 103.

Incidence, 410, 412, 416. Sexual offences against teenage girls, 411.

Judges-Salaries, (qn.) 845. Stipendiary Magistrates - Number, (qn.)

2283. Qualification for appointment, (qn.) 2283.

Leave of Absence-For Mr. Wiltshire, 37; Mr. Galvin, 37, 671, 1878; Mr. Brose, 3088.

Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 1142; second reading, 1195, 1224; remaining stages, 1224.

Legislative Assembly-Suggested amplifi­cation system, 950. Ringing of bells on adjournment, 2322. Suspension of sit­ting for dinner, 2779. Ventilation of Chamber, 2960.

Liberal and Country Party-Use of word " Country" in title, 2052.

Library Committee-Assembly members appointed, 50.

Library Services-Board of Inquiry: Func­tioning of regional library services, (qn.) 3115.

Licensing Act-Hours of trading, 413. Number of hotels and licensed grocers, (qn.) 3321.

Licensing Court-Salaries of chairman and members, (qn.) 1415. Travelling allow­ances, (qn.) 1415. Permits for liquor with meals and social functions, (qn.) 2174.

Liquor Industry-Proposed inquiry, (qns.) 102, 844.

Litter Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3129, 3342, 3604, 3754; Committee, 3766, 3920; remaining stages, 3921.

Loan Council-1963-64 Budget statement, 203. Loan programme, 711. Special grants, 711. Loan funds available to Victoria, 724. Commonwealth policy, 879.

Loan Funds-Public subscriptions, 336. Use for maintenance and replacement works, 745. Liability: Mixture of Australian and foreign currencies, 879.

Local Government-Report of Commission of Inquiry, 677, 873.

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Local Government (Amendment) Bill-In­troduction and first reading, 591; second reading, 776, 1320; Committee, 1330; re­maining stages, 1332. Council amend­ment dealt with, 1779.

Local Government Department - 1963-64 Budget statement, 202. Grant for Bruthen Mechanics' Institute, 3154. File re school footbridge at Foster, (qn.) 3242.

Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree Gully) Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 319; declared a private Bill, 390; motion to treat as public Bill agreed to, 390; second reading, 390, 550; Commit­tee, 553; remaining stages, 554.

Lovegrove, Mr. Denis (Fitzroy).

Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens, 1678.

Adoption of Children Bill, 4170, 4171, 4172. Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill,

580. Air Pollution-Emission from Colvan

factory, Fitzroy, 1761. Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2357,

2378, 2380, 2949. Arbitration Commission-Representations

by Victorian Government, 715. Books-Warnings to publishers and

distributors, 3399. Budget for Year 1963-64, 708. Business of the House-Order of business,

807. Hours of sitting, 1142. Carlton Building Collapse-Causes, 3398.

Removal of debris, 3398. Chemists' Shops-Number in metropolitan

area, 3872. Child Minding Centres-Number, care,

transport, and legal requirements, 3862. Templestowe tragedy, 3862.

Children's Welfare (Retainers) Bill, 1889. Clean Air Section-Suggested industrial

zoning, 1761. Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement,

3521. Companies-Losses of companies, 336.

Investigation of companies, 338, 3186. Interim report on Reid Murray group, 2882, 2893. Testro group, 2894. Payne's Properties Proprietary Limited, 2896. Legal proceedings against in­vestigated companies, 3186.

Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-continued.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Guaran­tees) Bill, 596, 599.

Crime-Number of offences, 103. Cultural Centre-Suggested Common­

wealth contribution for National Art Gallery, 2910. Suggested provision of auditorium, 2910. Architect and con­tractors, 3984. Inspection and control, 3984. Collapse of concrete, 3984.

Debate-Withdrawal of statements ob­jected to, 532, 2667, 3676.

Dental Hospital-Dental mechanics and apprentices, 105.

Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 3052. Drugs-Supply, sale and control, 666. Education-Finance available for con-

struction of school in Australian Capital Territory, 709.

Education Department-Variation of agreement re wages and conditions of employment of school cleaners, 1760. George-street, Fitzroy, State School, 3151.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2597. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2882, 2893,

2910, 2920. Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 1760.

Firearms-Issue of licences, 1414. Sales of rifles, 1414. Gun dealers, 1414. Issue and control of rifles, 1414. Offences, 1414.

Government Departments and Instru­mentalities-Responsibilities of officers, 340. Number and salaries of employees, 3187.

Government Printing Office-Availability of copies of Acts of Parliament, 1760.

Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 2043.

Hansard-Availability of proofs, 452. Report of member's speech, 1073, 3792.

Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3881, 3894, 3896.

Housing-Findings of Royal Commission, 171. Operation and administration of legislation, 171. Government action, 171. Loans, 524. Co-operative housing societies, 524. Target, 711. Financial allocation from Commonwealth Govern­ment, 711. Deficiency in Victoria, 713.

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Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-contmued. Housing Commission-Dwellings built in

country, 101. Sales of units, 101. Waiting period for tenancies, 101. In­vestments, 173. Flats built in Fitzroy, Flemington and Melbourne, 175. Rents and rebates, 175, 2008. Evictions, 175. Applications for homes, 175. Sales, 175. Dwellings built, 175. Qualities of monolithic concrete walls for house and flat construction, 176. Labour party questionnaire, 228. Cost of heating houses and flats, 310. Cost of hot water supplies, 310. Construction costs, 310. Cost of land, 310. Flat building, acquisition and sale of land in Carlton estates, 846. Decline in construction programme, 713. Rehousing and re­development scheme in Carlton, 1765. Transfer of tenants, 1874. Availability of homes for rental and purchase, 1874. Recreational and car parking facilities at Fitzroy, 2871. Need for co-operation with Social Welfare Branch, 2920. Sale of land in Broadmeadows, 3672.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2665. Juvenile Delinquency, 102, 515. Kindergartens and Creches-Suggested

survey, 1763. Kindergarten Training College-Training

of teachers, 1764. Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Com­

mission, 160. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

1750, 2107, 2196, 2197, 2949, 2950, 2951. Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops)

Bill, 3888. Labour and Industry (Cost of Living) Bill,

1319. Land-Acquisition for Government in-

strumentalities, 665. Liquor Industry-Proposed inquiry, 102. Loan Council-Loan programme, 711. Loan Funds-Public subscriptions, 336. Maiella Construction Company Pro-

prietary Limited, 179, 314, 335, 841. Medical Practitioners-Number in metro­

politan area, 3870. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Refusal to issue permit, 3193. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways

Board-Assets, 334. Metropolitan Transportation Committee­

Meetings and projects for consideration, 104. .

Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-contmued. Moomba Carnival-Government financial

contribution, 3191. Police duties, 3191. Cultural activities, 3191.

Motor Car Bill, 1470, 1500, 1501, 1792, 1793.

Motor Vehicles-Registrations, 3187.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Com­pensation for landowners, 3209. Legal expenses and fees, 3209.

Municipalities-Metropolitan population, 3860.

Obscene Publications, 3233, 3322, 3401. Parliament House-Renovations, 3928. Personal Explanation-Statement in

debate, 1319. Newspaper report, 3254. Points of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

406, 408, 863, 3682. Tabling of docu­ments quoted from, 543.' Urgency of motion, 548. Right of member to make statement, 1022. Statements in debate, 1457, 1459, 3677, 4181. Occupancy of chair by Speaker when ruling is in dispute, 2013. Reference to matter that ·is sub judice, 2587, 2588. Wording of motion under Standing Order 8a, 3204.

Police Department-Motor vehicles, 526. Complaint against members of Force in Fitzroy, 2043. Participation of members of Force in film taken in Fitzroy, 2048.

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2374. Police Offences (Further Amendment)

Bill, 2646. Prisons Division-Prison population and

accommodation, 664. Public Accounts-Table of certain Com­

monwealth moneys received by Victoria, 710. Comparison of Victorian Govern­ment revenues, 712.

Public Service-Retrospective salary pay­ments,335.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 992,. 1124, 1125, 1129, 1139, 1141.

Railway Department-Spencer-street rail­way station, 334.

Railway Lands Bill, 3225. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1260, 1452,.

1453, 1461, 1464, 1469.

Road Accidents-Fatalities and injuries,. 103.

Road Works-Finance, 3187. Annual ex­penditure, 3187. Construction, 3187.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1807.

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Lovegrove, Mr. Denis-continued. Social Problems-Conditions at Fitzroy

and elsewhere, 338, 340, 528, 549, 2043. Social Welfare Branch-Assistance to

widows and deserted wives, 525, 3859. Payments for State wards in foster homes, 1762, 2043. Part-time lectures in Training Division, 2871. Need for co­operation with Housing Commission, 2920.

Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling, 2013, 2015.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 611. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Indifference to landholders on Mornington Peninsula, 334.

Supply, 333. Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 1798,

1801. Totalizator Agency Board-Staff, 99.

Location of agencies, 99. Adminis­trative cost, 99. Financial surpluses, 99. Control of agencies, 99. Total receipts and payments to State, 99. Expected revenue, 525.

Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill, 799.

Uniform Taxation-Reimbursements to Victoria, 335, 711. Special grants, 711.

University (Faculties) Bill, 3899. University of Melbourne-Extensions and

acquisitions of land, 664. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 797. Victorian Symphony Orchestra, 2382,

2910. Widows and Deserted Wives-Assistance

from Social Welfare Branch for care of children, 525, 3859.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 1592.

Youth Organizations Assistance Fund­Details of applications and grants, 72Q, 723.

Loxton, Mr. S. J. E. (Prahran).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 734. Co-operative Housing-Finance, 734.

Houses completed, 735. Membership of societies, 735. Maximum loans, 735. Number of societies, 736.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill, 2762.

Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 3056.

Loxton, Mr. S. J. E.-continued. Housing-Annual investment, 737. Pro­

vision of finance by private savings banks, 738. Suggested establishment of home finance advisory bureau, 740.

Personal Explanation-Incident during debate, 3615.

Savings Banks-Statutory requirements re deposits and investment of funds, 738. Loans for housing purposes, 738.

Loy Yang Coalfield-Investigations, (qn.) 2735.

M. Macdonald, Mr. J. D. (Burwood).

Alcoholism Foundation of Victoria---­Government grant, 2916.

Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 2378. Building Industry-Safety precautions,

4194. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 3033. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2916. Governor's Speech-A.ddress-in-Reply, 39. Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops)

Bill, 3890. Litter Bill, 3604. Motor Ca~ Bill, 1498. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1109. Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2466. Rulings and Statements as Acting

Chairman of Committees-Debate-Interjections, 1132, 1133, 1460.

Member interrupting another mem­ber's speech to move that progress be reported, 1133. Relevancy of re­marks, 1453. Use of expressions ob­jected to, 1459, 1465.

McDonald, Sir William (Dundas). (See "Speaker, The (Sir William McDonald) .")

Macfarlan, The Hon. Ian, Death of-Resolu­tion placing on record sorrow at death of the Hon. Ian Macfarlan, and appre­ciation of his services, 3315. Adjourn­ment of House as mark of respect, 3316.

Maiella Construction Company Pty. Ltd.­Directors, dividends and shareholders, (qn.) 841. Government contracts, (qn.) 179, (qn.) 314, 407. Spencer-street rail­way station contract, 334.

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Manson, Mr. J. W. (Ringwood). Daylight Saving-Introduction in Victoria,

1317. Point of Order-Smoking in press gallery,

1271. Statute Law Revision Committee-Reports

presented: Workers Compensation Act 1958, 670; Police Offences Bill, 1670; Show-cause Summonses and Subpoenas, 1820; Statute Law Revision Bill, 2175; Estate Agents Act, 2285; Public Lands and Works Bill, 2561; Wrongs Act 1958, 2736; Restrictive Covenants, 3088; Section 28, Evidence Act 1958, 3088; Disposal of Uncollected Goods Act 1961, 3088; Police Offences Further (Amendment) Bill 1963, 3499; Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 3873; Sale of Land Act 1962, 3991.

Swallow and Ariell Limited-Future operations and arrangements, 3990.

Margarine. (See" Dairying Industry.")

Marine Board of Victoria-Issue of pilotage certificates, (qn.) 386, Exempt masters, (qn.) 386, 3083. Port Phillip Heads sea-lane, (qn.) 386.

Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 2285; second reading, 2351, 2768; Committee, 2771; remammg stages, 2774. Council amendment dealt with, 3064.

Maryborough Free Library and Literary Institute Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3245; declared a private Bill, 3341; motion that Bill be dea1t with as a public Bill agreed to, 3341; second reading, 3342, 3510; remaining stages, 3511.

Meagher, Mr. E. R. (Mentone).

Australian Education Council-Report, 2793.

Business of the House-Orders of the Day, 2368.

Cement-Consignments from Geelong to Melbourne, 845.

City of Melbourne Underground Rail­way Construction Bill, 2086, 2183, 2755.

Colac to Weeaproinah Railways Dis­mantling Bill, 56, 57, 1244, 1246.

Meagher, Mr. E. R.-continued.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentra­lized Industries) Bill, 390, 571, 986, 1338, 1832, 1834, 1837, 1904, 1905, 1908, 3064.

Debate-Withdrawal of statements ob­jected to, 1270, 1457, 1459.

Distinguished Visitor-Mr. J. D. R. T. Tilney, T.D., M.P., Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Com­monwealth Relations, 758.

Education Department-Head teacher's residence at Yarram primary school, 2561.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2927. Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill,

780. Frauduaent Debtors Commitment Bill/

781. Housing Commission-Provision for

prams in multi-storied flats, 2793. Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways

Board-Time-tables on Preston line, 109. Accidents, 109, 2282. Stop-lights on trams, 109. Preston workshops employees, 109. Relaying of tracks, 109. Financial provision, 387. Staffing, 524. Hawthorn depot, 524. Salaries of Board members, 843. Extension of North Coburg service, 1413. Elimina­tion of compulsory stops, 2282. Tram lines on dual highways, 3240. Carriage of prams and pushers, 3240.

Metropolitan Transportation Committee­Meetings, 104. Projects for considera­tion, 104.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 2355. Oil Installations-Fire-fighting precau­

tions, 4000. Petrol-Price, 2438. Points of Order-Statements in debate,

1354, 1464, 3582. Scope of personal explanation, 3603.

Public Transport-Services in Lancefield district, 1780.

Railway Department-Derailments, dam­age and track maintenance staff on Melbourne-Wodonga line, 105, 3236. Spencer-street station, 106, 583, 662. Freight concessions on wool, 106. Melbourne - Reservoir - Lalor - Epping -Whittlesea line, 108. Manning of stations, 108, 2927, 3663. Pedestrian

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Meagher, Mr. E. R.-continued. crossings, 108. Staff, 108. Derail­ments, 105, 181, 3236, 3318. Motor car accidents at level crossings, 317. Proposed underground railway, 317, 526. Electrification of Lalor to Epping line, 388. Electrification of Sunshine­Deer Park line, 582. Supply of cast­steel bogie assemblies, and replace­ment parts, 662. Provision of cast­steel foundry at Newport, 662. Trans­port of livestock, 1069. Goods services, 1069. Public relations, 1069. Upfield railway station, 1190, 1421. Road accidents at rail bridge between Park­dale and Mordialloc, 1316. Deductions from employees' wages for payments to assurance companies and benefit organizations, 1781, 3873. Over-pass at Huntingdale, 2123. Profits and losses on country and suburban lines, 2175. Noise at Ballarat North work­shops, 2284. Detection of offences by special duties train patrols, 2433. Pro­fits and losses on goods traffic, 2434, 3396. Assault on Mr. B. McKenna, 2434. Freight rates for petrol, 2734. Melbourne-Mildura freight traffic, 2734. Shelter on standard gauge passenger platform at Wangaratta, 2793, 3186. Passenger facilities on Spirit of Progress, 2793. Bridge over Goulburn river, 2872. Assaults on passengers and station staffs, 2927. Payment of interest, 3240. Roofing of Camber­well station, 3318. Agreement between Commissioners and J. H. K. Proprie­tary Limited, 3318. Cost and supply of sleepers, 3397. Salaries and wages, 3575. Booking charges on Spirit of Progress, 3576. Condition of Merri station, 3663. Lease and use of rail­way land at Elsternwick, 3663. Break­down and derailments on Tallangatta­Cudgewa line, 3708, 4197. Goods sec­tion accounting procedure, 3873. Trans­port in Upfield area, 4144. Construc­tion of siding for Nabisco Proprietary Limited, 4144. Provision of off-street parking facilities, 4145.

Railway Lands Bill, 3090, 3092, 3226. Railway Loan Application Bill, 602, 758,

1265, 1453, 1456, 1463, 1467, 1469. Railways (Financial Reports) Bill, 56,

59, 60, 624, 1911. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2013.

Meagher, Mr. E. R-continued. Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants)

Bill, 780. Training of taxi drivers, 3236. Transport Regulation (Amendment) Bill,

390, 569. Transport Regulation Board-Applica­

tions for use of motor vehicles by declared decentralized industries, 3197.

Tullamarine Airport--Capital cost of rail link, 3397.

Medical Practitioners-University graduates, (qn.) 521. Registration, (qn.) 521. General practitioners and specialists, (qn.) 521. Government medical officers, (qn.) 521. Shortage, 927. Number in metropolitan area, (qn. ) 3870.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-

Administration - Public relations, (qn.) 98. Reconstitution of Board, (qn.) 98. Application for rezoning, (qn.) 387. Rates payable by pensioners, (qn.) 720. Statement on Kings Bridge, (qn.) 1318. Drive-in theatres: Planning permits and appeals, (qn.) 1877; pro­posed drive-in theatre at East Preston, (qn.) 1877. Refusal to issue building permit, (qn.) 3193. Valuers, (qn.) 3575. Rezoning of land in Broad­meadows, ( qn.) 3662. Report of town and Country Planning Board on metro­politan scheme, (qn.) 3754.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 206. Allocation for sewerage, (qn.) 523. Loan funds, (qn.) 523, 875. Revenue, (qn.) 523. Rates, (qn.) 3193.

Merri Creek-Flooding of Allister-street, North Fitzroy, (qn.) 3661.

Moonee Ponds Creek-Flooding, 3929, 3934.

Municipalities-Formula for reimburse­ment for use of net annual valuations, (qn.) 3193.

Roads-Planning of future freeways, (qn.) 98. Proposed extension of South­Eastern Freeway, (qns.) 98, 319, 1417. Ring road: Finance, (qn.) 3126; encroachment on parklands, (qn.) 3126.

Sewerage-Discharge of sewage into Yarra river, (qn.) 313, 424, 427, 718, 719, 874, (qn.) 1192, 1841. Connexions, 428, (qn.) 523. Deep sewerage pro­ject between Spotswood and Brooklyn,

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Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-continued. (qns.) 589, 1414. Reconstruction of sewage tunnel under Yarra at Spots­wood, ( qn.) 966.

Staff-Long service leave: Recognition of service with other authorities, (qn.) 2174.

Water Supply-Extension of metropoli­tan supplies, 427, 912. House con­nexions, (qn.) 523. Fluoridation, (qn.) 966, 1873. Storages and holding basins for metropolitan area, (qn.) 3128. Use of Big river and Thomson river waters" (qn.) 4138.

Works-Provision of culvert in Pascoe Vale, 2914.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-

Administration-Answers to members' questions, 434. Advertisements on tram tickets, 765. Salaries of chairman and members of Board, (qn.) 843.

Depots and Workshops-Closure of Haw­thorn depot, ( qn.) 523. Repairs and renovations to Preston workshops 765.

Fares-Suggested reduction, 433. Cost of concessions to pensioners, 749.

Finance-Assets, 334. Financial position. (qn.) 387, 407, 433, 749. Effect of lack of service on revenue, 433.

Services-Elimination of compulsory tram and bus stops, (qn.) 2282. Carriage of prams and pushers, (qn.) 3240.

Staff-Total number, (qn.) 523. Resig­nations, retirements and dismissals. (qn.) 523.

Tram Routes-East Preston and West Preston lines, (qn.) 109. Accidents and costs, (qn.) 109, (qn.) 2282. Cost of fitting stop lights, (qn.) 109. Relay­ing of routes in concrete, (qn.) 109. Extension of North Coburg line, (qn.) 1413. Lines laid on dual highways, (qn.) 3240.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Use of Williams­town, 447. Proposed dry dock at Williamstown, (qn.) 1877. Reconstruc­tion of berths for "roll-on roll-off" ships, ( qn.) 3126. Dumping of silt dredged from Hobson's Bay, (qns.) 3194, 3572. Loading facilities for foreign ships, (<In.) 3243.

Melbourne Harbor Trust Regulations-Dis­allowance of regulation, 4146.

MemberS-Replies to matters raised in Parliament, 885; from Government Departments, 2941. Provision of time clocks, 941. Leave of absence: For Mr. Wiltshire, 37; for Mr. Galvin, 37, 671, 1878; for Mr. Brose, 3088. Retire­ment of Mr. Brose, Mr. Galvin and Mr. Scott, 4291; motion expressing appre­ciation of services, 4293.

Mental Health Authority­Administration-Progress of work, 443. Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 195.

Pension payments to mentally retarded persons, (qns.) 964, 1190. Common­wealth grants, (qns.) 3318, 4139, 4146, 4277. Financial provIsIon for St. Nicholas's hospital, (qn.) 4277.

Hospitals and Institutions-Use of old Royal Children's Hospital, 444. Pro­posed psychiatric centre at Bendigo, (qn.) 2437. Location, capacity and cost, ( qn.) 3495. Provision for dangerous patients, (qn.) 3495.

Mentally Retarded Children-Establish­ment of centres in country areas, 756. Need for hostel at Oakleigh, 2921. Establishment of sheltered workshops. 2947.

Patients-Number in receipt of Common­wealth pensions, (qn.) 4277; centres at which located, (qn.) 4277; distri­bution of pension payments, 4277.

Metropolitan Area-Extension of boun­daries, (qn.) 1876.

Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board-Financ­ing, 886. City of Keilor: Fire protec­tion services, 938.

Metropolitan Transportation Committee­Meetings, (qn.) 104. Projects for con­sideration, (qn.) 104.

Mibus, Mr. W. J. (Lowan).

Bore Water-Samples from Koo-Wee-Rup basin, 3194.

Coal Mines (Amendment) Bill, 2175, 2289.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 591, 968, 1711, 1712, 1713, 1714, 1715, 2375, 2376.

Geelong Waterworks and Sewerage (Amendment) Bill, 115, 214, 618.

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Mibus, Mr. W. J.-continued.

Hospitals and Charities Commission­Corryong Hospital, 423.

Land Values-Policies of Valuer-General and State Rivers and Water Supply Commission on subdivisions, 182.

Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill, 2351, 2772, 2773, 2774, 3064.

Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill, 115, 215.

NathaHa Soldier Settler-Flooding of property, 2474.

Oil-Lakes Entrance oilfield, 3494. Points of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

1200, 1201. Redcliffs Drainage System - Duplica­

tion, 1878. River Murray Waters Bill, 1693, 1786,

1789, 2102. River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes

Storage) Bill, 1693, 1784, 1786, 2041, 2042.

Sewerage Authorities-Government sub­sidies, 98.

Sewerage Districts Bill, 115, 215, 622. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Outfall drain in Beverford district, 180. Water rights, 386. Allocation of water in River Murray system, 386. Underwater explosives tests in reser­voirs, 590. Water rates of dried fruits growers, 963. Rivers and Streams Fund, 1071. Drainage rates appeals in Murray Valley, 1190. Proposed dam on Tarago river, 1414. Rates of country waterworks trusts, 3394. Valuers employed and duties, 3572. Valuations, 3572. Formula for capital works by country waterworks trusts, 3659. Bunyip-Tarago watershed, 3750. Provision of private main for property owners in Craigie-road, Osborne, 3750.

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill, 2648. Water Bill, 591, 1564, 1565, 2103. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 390,

567, 1223. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­

tion of Land) Bill, 3577, 3598.

Mibus, The Hon. Wilfred John, Death of­Resolution placing on record sorrow at death of the Hon. Wilfred John Mibus, and appreciation of his services, 3796; adjournment of House as mark of respect, 3801.

Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill­Introduction and first reading, 115; second reading, 215, 619; remaining stages, 620.

Milk and Dairy Supervision Act-Proclama­tion of milk districts, (qn.) 1781. Areas under municipal control, (qn.) 1875. Payments by dairy farmers, (qn.) 1875. Municipal responsibilities, (qn.) 2009.

Milk Board-State of Milk Board Fund, (qn.) 1071. Metropolitan milk area: Consumption, (qn.) 2434; promotion of sales and production, (qn.) 2434.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 2321; second reading, 2355, 3060; remaining stages, 3064.

Ministry, The-Change of personnel an­nounced, 3981.

Mitchell, Mr. T. W. (Benambra).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 723. Business of the House-1964 autumn

sessional period, 3085. Country Roads Board-Snow ploughing

on Mount Hotham, 728. Education-Pre-school education, 725. Education Department-School assembly

halls, 725. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2790. Fisheries and Wildlife Department­

Dead birds on shores of Hume weir, 2790.

Gas and Fuel Corporation-Uniform tariffs, 724.

Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 2933.

Hospitals and Charities Commission-Corryong Hospital, 423.

Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2659. Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill, 1224. Litter Bill, 3358. Loan Funds-Availability to Victoria,

724. Motor Car Bill, 1476. Mount Hotham-Development, 729. Outward Bound Movement-Hume weir

tragedy, 97, 385, 420, 1317, 2790, 2934. Police Department-Walwa police sta­

tion, 418. Wodonga police station, 418. Condition of toilet facilities at police stations, 2321. Work in snow­lands of Search and Rescue Squad, 3392.

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Mitchell, Mr. T. W.-continued. Moss, Mr. G. C. (Murray Valley). Probate Duty-Amending legislation, 726.

Receipts, 726.

Probate Duty (Amendment) Bill, 1319. Railway Department - Carriage of

passengers to and from intermediate stations on Southern Aurora, 419. Rol­ling-stock used on Sunday train to Wangaratta and Albury, 419. Shelter on standard gauge passenger platform at Wangaratta, 2792, 3186. Breakdown and derailment on Tallangatta­Cudgewa line, 3708, 4195.

Sessional Period, Close of-Felicitations, 4297.

Ski-ing-Use of gas appliances at ski lodges, 1142. Raising of funds by raffle for Australian Olympic ski team, 3186.

State Electricity Commission-Uniform tariffs, 724.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 67, 604.

Supply, 418. Ta~ation-Incidence of State taxation,

724.

Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 1800, 1803.

Tourist Development Authority-Develop­ment of snowlands, 728.

Transport-Government policy, 725. Uniform Taxation-Restoration of State's

income-taxing powers, 419. Water Bill, 1560, 1565. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­

tion of Land) Bill, 3878, 3879.

Monash University-Chair and faculty of law, (qn.) 384, 409. Provision of hospi­tal, 927. Land reserved, (qn.) 3749. Number of students, (qn.) 3861. Students from Gippsland, (qn.) 3861.

Monash University (Amendment) Bill-In­troduction and first reading, 3685; second reading, 3687, 3898; remaining stages, 3898.

Moomba Carnival--Government contribu­tion, (qn.) 3191. Police duties, (qn.) 3191. Cultural activities, (qn.) 3191.

Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens, 1691.

Agricultural Education (Cadetship) Bill, 2562.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 702.

Business of the House-Order of business, 4020.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentra­lized Industries) Bill, 1839.

Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The, 3140.

Country Roads Board-Work at South Numerkah, 2870.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1711. Dorodong Land Settlement-Reclassifica­

tion, 1668. Soil tests, 1668. Experi· mental plots, 1668.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill, 3341, 3766, 4033, 4034.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1817, 1819. 1820.

Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill, 3150. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill.

783.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2), 3143.

Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2567.

Land Values-Policies of Valuer-General and State Rivers and Water Supply Commission on subdivisions, 182.

Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco. Leaf) Bill, 2772, 2774.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Water Sup­ply-Storages and holding basins, :U28.

Motor Car Bill, 1793. Nathalia Soldier Settler-Flooding of

property, 2472. Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill.

2644, 2646. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2637. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4182. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1103,-

1134, 1138. Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2465. Railway Department-Bridge over Goul­

bum river, 2872. River Murray Waters Bill, 2089. River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes:

Storage) Bill, 2037, 2041.

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Moss, Mr. G. C.-continued.

Rural Finance and Settlement Commis­sion-Allocation of holdings, 3128. Applicants for land settlement, 3128.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1808. Sewerage Districts Bill, 622. Shire of Rodney-Allocations for drain­

age works, 3873. Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill,

1814. Third-party Insurance - Reciprocal

arrangement between States, 3397. Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Stock

slaughtered, 1189. Water Act-Drainage rates in Murray

Valley, 1190. Water Bill, 1564. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1201. Wheat Industry-Handling charges, 721.

Motions for the Adjournment of the House to Enable Honorable Members to Dis­cuss Public Questions-Social prob­lems: Conditions in Fitzroy and else­where, 528. Acquisition of land: Rights of citizens, 1670. Mount Eliza service reservoir, 3197. Housing Com­mission: Land in Broadmeadows area, 3664. Oil installations: Fire-fighting precautions and need for public inquiry, 3991.

Motor Boats-Registrations, (qn.) 524. Pay­ments to Tourist Development Fund, (qn.) 524. Provision of facilities, (qn.) 524. Boats for policing Act, (qns.) 524, 2870. Enforcement of Act, 909 (See also "Australian Coast Guard Auxiliary. ")

Motor Car Act-Reciprocal arrangements between States on third-party insur­ance, (qn.) 3397.

Motor Car Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 591; second reading, 799, 846, 1470; Committee, 1500, 1789; third reading, 1793. Council amendment dealt with, 2792.

Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 3790; second reading, 3874, 4042; Committee, 4043; remaining stages, 4044.

Motor Registration Branch-Decentraliza­tion of activities, ( qn.) 522. Acquisi­tion of land in Carlton by Housing Commission, (qn.) 665. Existing site, (qn.) 1191. Site for new offices, (qns.) 1191, 1876. New buildings, (qn.) 1191. Registration plates for privately­owned vehicles, (qn) 1317. Registra­tion of vehicles used for teaching of driving, (qn.) 1317. Suggested amalga­mation with Transport Regulation Board, (qn.) 1669; request for files, (qn.) 1876.

Motor Vehicles-Accidents at level cros­sings, (qn.) 316, 321, 330. Use of safety belts, (qns.) 317, 3659. Increased horse­power of cars, 436. Commercial trailers registered, (qn.) 1190. Registrations, (qn.) 3187. Testing and training of driv­ing instructors, (qn.) 4145.

Mount Buffalo National Park-Lease of portion of park, ( qn.) 1069.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir. (See" State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Administration " and" Acquisi­tion of Land.")

Municipalities-Administration-Insurance of council­

lors, (qn.) 3238. Population of metro­politan municipalities, ( qn.) 3860.

Coburg City Council-Swimming pool, 354. Pre-school kindergarten, 355.

Elderly Citizens-Provision of land for housing, 926.

Finance-Additional responsibilities, 429, 886. Loan liabilities, 429, (qn.) 582. Need for greater Government assis­tance, 429. Loan money terms, 431. Loan raisings, (qn.) 661, 670, 874, 2285. Financial assistance, (qn.) 661, 670, 877, 228 i. Financial problems facing municiralities containing large areas of non-rateable land, (qn.) 1188. Disabilities, 873. Rating exemptions, 874. Payments by Country Roads Board, 757, 877. Contributions to Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board, 886. Government contributions to home-help scheme, 1778. Reimbursement by the Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works for use of municipal net annual valuations, (qn.) 3193. Loans for pri­vate street construction, 3327.

Garbage Collection-Use of disposable containers, 2919.

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Municipalities-continued.

Land-Purchase for recreation purposes, 938.

Mechanics' Institutes and Public Halls­Land tenure, 332. Government grants, 431, 2944. (See also "Athlone Mech­anics' Institute Land Bill.")

Melbourne City Council-Collapse of building in Carlton, (qn.) 3398.

Roads and Streets-Metropolitan road works programmes, (qn.) 582. In­creased cost of materials, ( qn.) 582.

Sanitation-Pan closets and septic tanks, (qn.) 525.

Shire of Myrtleford-Extension of boun­daries, (qn.) 1418.

Shire of Rodney-Allocations for drain­age works, (qn.) 3873.

Staff-Number of employees, ( qn.) 582. Swimming Pools-File re· Sale Olympic

swimming pool, (qn.) 3662.

Municipalities Assistance Fund-Suggested increased subsidy for country recrea­tion and sports grounds, (qn.) 3242.

Mutton, Mr. Charles (Coburg). Benevolent Homes-Number of beds in

metropolitan institutions, 3861. Cancer-Diagnosis and control, 3750.

Recommendation of National Health Council, 3750.

Dairying industry-Metropolitan milk supply, 2434. Consumption of milk and milk products, 2434.

Grasshopper Plague-Eradication mea­sures, 2437.

Housing Commission-Sales of homes, 1782. Houses for elderly couples, widows, and single persons, 2008.

Law Department-Legal assistance, 3399. Licensing Court-Permits, 2174. Liquor

with meals, 2174. Social functions, 2174. Hotels and licensed grocers, 3321.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Recognition of employees' service with other authorities for long service leave purposes, 2174.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Extension of North Coburg service, 1413.

Melbourne Harbor Trust Regulations, 4147.

Mutton, Mr. Charles-continued.

New Melbourne General Cemetery; Fawkner, 1667.

Oil-Lakes Entrance oilfield, 3494. Pentridge Gaol-Press statement, 3570.

Suggested removal from Coburg, 3570. Overcrowding, 4145. Accommodation in " C" division, 4145.

Racing (Totalizators Extension) Act­Revenue, 2873.

Railway Department-Payment of interest, 3240. Staffing of stations, 3663.

Superannuation Act-Pensions paid to former State employees and dependants, 2281.

Tuberculosis-Incidence, 1189. Sanatoria, 1189. X-ray examinations, 1189.

Workers Compensation Act-Settlement of claims, 2734.

N. National Art Gallery and Cultural Centre­

Government contribution, (qn.) 1315. Suggested Commonwealth contribution, 2910. Suggested musical auditorium, 2910. Architect and contractors, (qn.) 3984. Inspection and control, (qn.) 3984. Collapse of concrete, (qn.) 3984.

National Museum-Display of exhibits, 2884. Shortage of scientific and expert staff, 2885.

National Parks Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3684; second reading, 3873. 4037; Committee, 4039; remammg stages, 4040. Council amendment dealt with, 4296.

Newmarket Sale-yards-Removal, 350, 358, 677. Stock bridge, 437, (qn.) 1191; charges for use of, (qn.) 1316.

New Melbourne General Cemetery-Beauti­fication of contiguous land, (qn.) 1667,. 3660. Area owned by State, (qn.) 1667, 1693, (qn.) 3660; value, (qn.) 1667. Trustees, (qn.) 3660.

Night Watching Organizations-Activities .. 766, 878. Use of firearms, 768.

North-West Mallee Settlers-Compensation claim by the late Mrs. Mudge, 675, 873 .. Compensation for settlers: Delays in payments, (qn.) 3322.

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O. Obscene Publications - Ministerial state­

ment to the House, 3246; debated, 3401. Prosecutions, (qn.) 3322. Agreement with booksellers, (qn.) 3322. Press report on sex and pornography, 3532. (See also" Books and Magazines.")

Officers of Parliament-Appointment, 3086.

Oil-Lakes Entrance field: Search and de­velopment, (qn.) 3494;. advances to companies, (qn.) 3494.

Oil Installations-Fire-fighting precautions: Need for public inquiry, 3991. Crown leases at Newport and Spotswood, (qn.) 4140.

Olympic Games-Raising of funds for Aus­tralian ski team by raffle, (qn.) 3186.

Ombudsman-Suggested appointment, 2932.

Opticians Registration (Fees and Penalties) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3093, 3149; re­maining stages, 3149.

Outward Bound Movement-Hume weir tragedy, (qn.) 97, (qn.) 385, 420, (qn.) 1193, (qn.) 1317, 2790, 2934; standard of life-belts, (qn.) 385, 421, (qn.) 1317; precautionary measures, (qn.) 1193.

P. Parkland-Alienation of, 412.

Parliament-State opening, 36. End of sessional periods, 3080, 4296. (See also "Ministry, The.")

Parliamentary Library - Availability of The Group, 3267.

Parliamentary Privilege, 3981.

Parliament House-Condition of kitchen utensils and facilities, 451. Renova­tions: Inspection of scaffolding, 3928, 3934. (See also " Legislative Assembly.")

Pascoe Vale R.S.L. and Citizens' Youth Club -Building site, 807,808.

Payne's Properties Pty. Ltd.-Operations, 347, 2896.

Pay-roll Tax, Commonwealth. (See" Taxa­tion-Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax.")

Pensioners' Rental Relief Trust Account­Payments, (qn.) 3192. Credit balance, (qn.) 3192.

Permanent Building Societies-Registra­tions and investigations, (qn.) 3127. Traditional Permanent Building Society: Notice of sale, (qn.) 3658.

Personal Explanations-Mr. Lovegrove, 1319, 3254. Mr. Taylor, 3023. Mr. Christie, 3024, 3083, 3085. Mr. Rylah, 3576. Mr. Holding, 3063. Mr. Loxton, 3615. Mr. Wilton, 4146.

Petition-Re electrification of Sunshine­Deer Park line, 582.

Petrol-Suggested equalized price, 437. Prices in country, (qn.) 2437. (See also "Taxation--Commonwealth Petrol and Diesel Oil Tax.")

Petty, Mr. H. R. (Toorak).

Agent-General-Appointment, 3936. Committees of Supply and Ways and

Means-Appointment, 56. Commonwealth Aid Roads Conference,

3530. Commonwealth Aid Roads Fund-Grants

to Victoria and allocations to metro­politan and country areas, 317, 3870.

Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2745. Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2438, 2766, 2767. Country Roads Board-Expenditure on

roads and bridges, 97, 179. Estimated revenue, 97. Work at South Numurkah, 2870. Status and salary of chairman, 2871.

Dairying Industry-Metropolitan milk supply, 2434. Consumption of milk and milk products, 2434.

Fishing Industry-Boat mooring fees, 3242, 3395. Facilities for professional fishermen, 3395.

Government Offices-Proposed new block in Treasury-place, 1191. Use of privately owned buildings, 1667.

Grasshopper Plague-Eradication mea­sures, 2437.

Housing-Findings of Royal Commission, 172; operation and administration of legislation, 172; Government action, 172.

Housing Commission-Dwellings built, 101, 175. Sales of units, 101, 175, 1782. Waiting period for tenancies, 101. In­vestments, 173. Flats built in Fitzroy. Melbourne and Flemington, 175. Rents

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Petty, Mr. H. R.-continued. Petty, Mr. H. R.--continued. and rebates, 175. Applications for homes, 175. Evictions, 175, 177. Qualities of monolithic concrete walls, 177. Definition of country area, 178. Cost of heating houses and flats, 311. Cost of hot water supplies, 311. Con­struction costs, 311. Cost of land, 311. Dampness and fungus mould in Laver­ton estate, 389. Play areas for Ander­son-Elizabeth streets, Richmond, estate, 520. Availability of land for elderly persons units, 585, 720. Car parking facilities at The Mall shopping centre, Heidelberg, 589. Elderly citizens' accommodation in Oakleigh, 719. Dona­tion of land for flats in Williamstown, 720. Development of Carlton estates, 846. Municipal contributions for slum abolition, 1418. Transfer of tenants, 1874. Availability of homes for rental and purchase, 1874. Houses for elderly couples, widows, and single persons, 2008. Rentals, 2008. Water supply to certain areas, 2010. Recreational and car parking facilities in Fitzroy, 2871. Printing of Commission's annual report, 2872. Accommodation of pensioners, 3188, 3243. Sale of land in Broad­meadows, 3395, 3499, 3573. Broad­meadows estate: Report of Real Estate and Stock Institute, 3396; advertising of lots, 3396. Development of Forest estate, Frankston, 3572. Number of children and play areas in Vere-street, Collingwood, estate, 3572. Valuers employed and duties, 3573. Valuations, 3573. Cost of acquisition, clearance and development of land for flats in North Melbourne, 3870. Outstanding applica­tions for Darby and Joan and lone person units, 3871.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 718, 1924, 1926.

Immigration-Commonwealth-State co-operation, 312. Migrants to Victoria, 312; employment, 312; screening in United Kingdom, 312. Number of applications from United Kingdom and availability of passages, 313.

Karoon-Grounding, 385. Keith Turnbull Research Station, Frank­

ston-Estimated cost, 2561.

Maiella Construction Co. Pty. Ltd.­Government contracts, 314.

Marine Board of Victoria-Pilotage certificates, 386. Port Phillip Heads sea­lane, 386.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Propaganda department, 98. Future freeway planning, 98. Recon­stitution of Board, 98. Proposed ex­tension of South-Eastern Freeway, 99.

Melbourne Harbor Trust-Overseas ships passenger terminal, 966. Proposed dry dock at Williamstown, 1877. Recon­struction of berths for Ie roll-on roll-off " ships, 3127. Dumping of silt dredged from Hobson's Bay, 3194, 3572. Load­ing facilities for foreign ships, 3244. Tests relating to foreshore erosion and currents, 3572.

Metropolitan Area - Extension of boundaries, 1876.

Motor Boating Act-Supply of boat for . policing legislation, 2870. Motor Registration Branch-Building sites,

1191. Outward Bound Movement-Hume weir

tragedy, 97, 385, 1193, 1317. Parliament House-Condition of kitchen

utensils, 454. Renovations, 3934. Point of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

3522. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2286, 2318. Port Phillip Bay-Corsair rock, 522, 585,

721. Press Report of Sex and Pornography.

3532. Public Lands and Works Bill, 3499.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1827, 1829, 1830, 1831.

Public Works Department--Oncost charges, 316, 1418. New Brunswick court-house and police station, 721. Public offices in Bairnsdale, 1417. Arthur's Creek primary school, 1550, 2284. Traralgon Psychiatric Hospital, 166. Cost of architectural building sec­tion, 2009. Boat mooring fees and facilities, 2873. Clearance of building residue from school grounds, 3124. File re school footbridge at Foster, 3242. Re­building of Footscray police station, 3442. Site development at Mooroolbark Technical School, 3443.

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Petty, Mr. H. R-continued.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 115, 554, 1124.

Roads-Suggested establishment of single authority, 98. Finance for road works, 3187. Construction, 3187.

San Remo-Newhaven Bridge-Proposed new bridge, 2438.

South Gippsland Highway-Constructing authority, 2009. Progress, 2009.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill, 56.

Transport by Road and Water-Common­wealth grants, 3243. Works under­taken, and cost, 3322, 3499.

Transport Regulation Board-Building sites, 1191.

Water Supply-Supply to certain Housing Commission areas, 2010.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 967, 1074, 1596, 1602, 1603.

Yarra River-Widening and dredging, 966. Reconstruction of sewage tunnel, 966, 3237. Appleton Dock, 966. Country Roads Board report on Lower Yarra crossing, 3319.

Pincini Camp, Mirboo North-Carriage of passengers, 1754.

Police Classification Board-Payment of in­creased salaries, 219, (qn.) 387.

Police Department-Administration-Police youth club system,

416. Incidence of crime in Fitzroy, and elsewhere, 528; in Northcote, (qn.) 3238. Availability of Chief Commis­sioner's report, 580, 768. Proposal to take over night watching services, 878. Police College: Instruction of police personnel, (qn.) 1782; staff, (qn.) 1782. Complaints against members of Force in Fitzroy, 2043. Participation of police­men in film taken in Fitzroy, 2048. Transfer of East Gippsland police head­quarters from Sale to Bairnsdale, (qn.) 2735. Police protection between Greensborough and Eltham, 2791. Sug­gested beach patrols, 2878. Domicile in Melbourne of superintendents of police, 2884. Investigations and reports re shot-gun crimes and operations at Queen Victoria Market, (qns.) 3118,

Police Department--continued.

3571. Duties of police during Moomba carnival, (qn.) 3191. Dossier on Com­munists, (qn.) 3195; on fascist and neo­nazi type organizations and individuals, (qn.) 3749. Appointment of police officers as justices of the peace, (qn.) 3243. Presentation of credentials by members of Force, (qn.) 3570. Occu­pancy of old Dental Hospital, (qn.) 3749. Mr. K. J. Nelson: Application for appointment to Force, (qn.) 3750. Provision of police services at Mount Buller, 3931, 3934.

Finance-Budget statement, 192. Police College~ Capital cost and annual ex­penditure, (qn.) 1782.

Motor Boating Squad-Strength, (qn.) 3195. Number, cost and location of boats, (qn.) 3195.

Motor VehiclCls-Types and disposition, (qn.) 526. Number used for police work, (qn.) 666. Use of private trans­port, 945. Numbe.r allotted to and used in Northcote, Thornbury and Fairfield areas, (qn.) 3238. Needs of Criminal Investigation Branch at Hawthorn, 3932, 3934.

Police Pensions Fund-Budget statement, 186, 869, 875.

Search and Rescue Squad-Rescue opera­tions in snowlands, ( qn.) 3392.

Staff-Strength of Force, 192, 351, 448, (qn.) 665, 690, 747, 769, 885, 937, 944, (qn.) 3493. Policemen on the beat, 353, 357, 412, 448. Ratio of policemen to population, 412, 689, 937. Strength of mobile traffic section, (qn.) 665, 769. Policemen on traffic duty, (qn.) 666. Suggested police residence at Long­warry, (qn.) 1070. Surgeons employed. (qns.) 1416, 1543. Blood alcohol deter­minations and breathalyzer tests, (qns.) 1416, 1543. Drivers charged and con­victed, (qn.) 1416, (qn.) 1543. Super­intendents, chief inspectors and inspectors, (qn.) 1544. Promotion of sergeants, (qn.) 1544. Appointment of Deputy Chief Commissioner and Assistant Commissioners, (qn.) 1544, 2879. Police at Northcote, Thornbury and Fairfield, (qn.) 3238. Police cadets and reservists, (qn.) 3493. Enlistments, (qn.) 3493.

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Police Department-continued. Stations-For Niddrie, (qn.) 319, 937,

2791; for Laverton, 356; for Altona North, 957; for Gardenvale, (qn.) 388; for East Bentleigh, (qn.) 1070; for North Fawkner, (qn.) 1416. Condition of Walwa police station, 418. Conditions at Wodonga police station, 418. Re­building and staffing of Bonnie Doon police station, 436. Land for Broad­meadows North station, (qn.) 966. Acquisition and use of property at St. Kilda, (qn.) 1071. Proposed sub-station at St. Kilda, (qn.) 107l. Condition of toilet facilities, 2321, 2322. Staffing of Maidstone police station, 2878. Condi­tions at Footscray police station, 3439, 3442.

Traffic Regulation-Motorists booked for offences, (qn.) 665, 718. Speeding in Hotham-street, East St. Kilda, 2788; in Kooyong-road, 2909.

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill-Re­ceived from Council and first reading, 2103; second reading, 2176, 2369; Com­mittee, 2374; remaining stages, 2375.

Police Offences (Animals) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 3684; second reading, 3790, 3908; Committee, 3917; remaining stages, 3919.

Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 1821; second reading, 2034, 2641; Committee, 2646; remaining stages, 2648.

Poor Persons Legal Assistance Act-Appli­cants and assistance provided, (qn.) 3192.

Porter, Mr. M. V. (Sandringham).

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill, 2377.

Boat Harbors-Supervision and mooring fees, 3990.

Broken Glass-Responsibility for removal from roads and beaches, 2474.

Carlton Building Collapse-Causes and removal of debris, 3399.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Guaran­tees) Bill, 598, 599.

Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill, 3071,3072, 3074.

Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob­jected to, 3583.

Elwood Canal-Diversion project, 4143.

Porter, Mr. M. V.-continued. Evangelical Lutheran Church of Australia

(Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3254.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commission Agents Bill, 3129, 3329, 3341, 3789, 4032, 4035.

Forests Commission-Forest fire in Hey­field area, 3400.

Geelong Planning Scheme-Proposed ring road,3189.

Home Finance (Reconstitution of Trust) Bill, 3255.

Housing Commission-Sale of land in Broadmeadows, 3670. Availability for purchase, and sale price of Glenroy homes, 3989, 3990. Purchase of units, 4143. Prior:ities, 4143. Units at Hazelwood, 4143. Purchase of land in Preston by Myer (Melbourne) Limited, 4143.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Commis­sion, 126, 164.

Litter Bill, 3761, 392l. Local Government Act-Insurance of

councillors, 3238. Local Government (Amentiment) Bill, 591,

776, 1330, 1779. Local Government (Shire of Fern Tree

Gully) Bill, 319, 390, 553. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Discharge of sewage into Yarra river, 313, 719, 1192. Proposed ex­tension of South-Eastern Freeway, 319. Applications for rezoning, 387. Water supply and sewerage, 523. Loan funds and revenue, 523. Deep sewerage pro­ject between Spotswood and Brooklyn, 590, 1415. Pensioners' rates, 720. Drive-in theatres, 1878. Recognition of employees' service with other authorities for long service leave pur­poses, 2174. Proposed construction of eastern section of ring road, 3126. Refusal to issue building permits, 3193. Formula for reimbursement to councils for use of municipal net annual valua­tions, 3193. Revision of water rates, 3193. Valuers employed and duties, 3575. Valuations, 3575. Flooding of Merri creek, 3362. Rezoning of land in Broadmeadows, 3662. Report of Town and Coqntry Planning Board re Metro­politan Planning Scheme, 3754. Flood­ing of Moonee Ponds creek, 3934.

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Porter, Mr. M. V.-continued. Melbourne Metropolitan Water Supply­

Storages and holding basins, 3128. Municipalities-Increased cost of road

materials, 582. Loan liability of metro­politan councils, 582. Number of men employed by metropolitan councils, 582. Areas of non-rateable land, 1188. Financial problems, 1188.

Pan Closets and Septic Tanks-Installa­tion, 525.

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2176. Process Servers and Inquiry Agents

(Qualification) Bill, 4028. Public Lands and Works Bill, 3703. Public Works Department - Oncost

charges, 4144. Railway Department-Hughesdale level

crossing, 3934. Road Traffic-Construction of roundabout

at Glenhuntly-road and Brighton-road intersection, 4144.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3254, 3255.

Sale Olympic Swimming Pool, 3662. Shire of Myrtleford-Extension of

boundaries, 1418. Shire of Rodney-Allocations for drainage,

3873. South-Eastern Freeway - St. Kevin's

College, 1417. State Electricity Commission-Transport

of poles from East Gippsland, 3934. State Forests Loan Application Bill, 57, 64,

67,68. Supply, 1779, 3583. Tullamarine Jetport-Proposed freeway,

1417. Valuation of Land Act-Municipal and

contract valuers, 3662. Water Bill, 773.

Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill -Introduction and first reading, 2286; second reading, 2318, 2635; remaining stages, 2641.

Port Phillip Bay-Corsair Reef: Dangers of, 325, 331, 424, 447, (qn.) 522, (qn.) 584, 681, (qn.) 721, 847, 887, 894, 959; in­cidence and results of groundings, (qn.) 522, 681. Freighter Karoon: Grounding on Corsair Reef, (qn.) 385, 847; dis­charge of cargo, (qn.) 385; Yarra river berth, (qn.) 385. (See also .. Marine Board of Victoria.")

Premier-Record term of office, 2383.

Printing Committee-Appointed, 51.

Prisons Division-Pentridge Gaol: Compen­sation to injured prisoner, (qn.) 181, 445; press statement on removal, (qn.) 3570; overcrowding, (qn.) 4145; sub­standard accommodation in .. C" divi­sion, (qn.) 4145. Prison population, (qn.) 664. Accommodation, (qn.) 664.

Probate Duty. (See .. Taxation-Probate Duty.")

Probate Duty (Amendment) Bill-Motion for leave to bring in Bill, 1319; ruled out of order, 1320.

Process Servers and Inquiry Agents (Quali­fication) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3927; second reading and remaining stages, 4028.

Public Accounts-Table of certain Common­wealth moneys received by Victoria, 1960-61 to 30th September, 1963, 710. Comparison of some Victorian Govern­ment revenues, 712. Loan liability, 742. Surpluses and deficits, 743. Interest and sinking fund charges on deficits, (qn.) 3193.

Public Accounts, Committee of-Appointed, 50. Reports presented: On expenditure incurred in conn ex ion with overseas visits by officers of Government Depart­ments and instrumentalities, 2874; on Portland Harbor Trust, 3663.

Public Fidelity and Audit Limited-Report of inspector appointed under Companies Act 1961, 846.

Public Lands and Works Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3499; second reading, 3703.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill -Appropriation resolution, 1194; intro­duction and first reading, 1194; second reading, 1437, 1821; Committee, 1827; remaining stages, 1831.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill-Notice of motion to bring in, 3244; introduction and first reading, 3324; second reading, 3506, 3921, 4157; Committee, 4164, 4165, 4173; third reading, 4190.

Public Service Board-Payment of increased salaries, 219. Retrospective salary payments, 335.

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Public Transport-Requirements of Werri­bee and Laverton, 358. Needs of Whittlesea area, 440. Services for Keilor district, 939. Facilities in Lance­field district, 1780, 2912.

Public Works Department-Buildings-Brunswick court-house and

police station, (qn.) 721. Public offices for Bairnsdale, (qn.) 1417. Traralgon Psychiatric Hospital, (qn.) 1666.

Finance-Oncost charges, (qns.) 316, 1418, 4144. Annual cost of Chief Architect's Branch, (qn.) 2009.

Harbor Works, Piers and Jetties-Sand bar at Lakes Entrance, 396, 2054. Development of Gippsland Lakes, 397.

Ports and Harbors Branch-Need for boats, 909. Need for rescue service, 909. Boat mooring fees and facilities, (qns.) 2873, 3990.

Schools-Public address systems, 439. Maintenance and building work, 753. Repainting of secondary schools, (qn.) 842. Request for file re Arthur's Creek State School, (qn.) 1550. Clearance of residue from building operations, (qn.) 3124. Site development at Moorool­bark Technical School, 3441, 3443.

Public Works Loan Application Bill.­Appropriation resolution, 115; introduc~ tion and first reading, 115; second read­ing, 554, 992, 1075; Committee, 1124; remaining stages, 1142.

Q. Quarries-Price increases, 957. Report of

Secretary for Mines on price-fixing, (qn.) 1668.

Queen Victoria Market-Shot-gun crimes and alleged corrupt operations, (qn.) 3118. Police investigation reports, (qns.) 3118, 3571. Amending market legislation, ( qn.) 3118.

Questions on Notice-Answers, 409, 444, 913, 4297.

Questions without Notice, 591, 722.

R. Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill-Intro­

duction and first reading, 3920; second reading, 3927, 4036; remaining stages, 4037.

Racing (Totalizators) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 2010; second reading, 2118, 2462; Committee, 2471; remaining stages, 2472.

Rafferty, Mr. J. A. (Ormond).

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 2188.

Litter Bill, 3353. Parliament-Appointments of officers,

3087. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1361. (See also cc Chairman of Committees,

The (Mr. J. A. Rafferty).")

Railway Department-Administration-Policy on pedestrian

crossings, (qn.) 108. Derailments, (qn.) 181. Hooliganism on trains, 353. Relations with. public, (qn.) 1069. Re­quest by Ballarat Historical Society for preservation of Phoenix locomotive, 2926. Salaries and wages, (qn.) 3575. Accounting procedure in goods section, (qn.) 3873. Group deductions from salaries and wages, (qns.) 1781, 3873.

Ballarat North Workshops-Noise, (qn.) 2284. Incidence of deafness, (qn.) 2284; workers compensation claims, (qn.) 2284.

City Underground Railway-Report, (qn.) 317, 700. Capacity, (qn.), 526. Sug~

gested standard gauge, 2923. (See also cc City of Melbourne Underground Rail­way Construction Bill.")

Country Lines-Melbourne-Wodonga line: Derailments, (qn.) 105, 3233, 3236; damage to tracks, rOlling-stock and goods, (qn.) 105; track maintenance staff, (qn.) 105; passenger facilities on Spirit of Progress, 2792, 2793. Southern Aurora: Use of empty seats from Albury, 419. Meringur-Morkalla sec­tion: Reopening, 2055. Transfer of interstate luggage at Sunshine, 2927. Derailments: Causes and costs, (qn.) 3317. Booking charge on Spirit of Progress, (qn.) 3576. Breakdown on Tallangatta-Cudgewa line, 3708; derail ..

. ments, 4195, 4197. Finance-Budget statement, 186. Addi­

tional provision, 220. Railway Equaliza­tion Fund, 186, 673, 743, 869, 875.

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Railway Department-continued.

Working expenses, 1751. Profits and losses on country and suburban lines, (qn.) 2175. Profits on goods traffic, (qns.) 2434, 3396. Payment of interest, (qn.) 3240. Capital cost of rail link to Tullamarine jetport, (qn.) 3397.

Freights and Fares-Concessions on wool, (qn.) 106, 2056. Increase in fares, 433. Rates for petrol, (qn.) 2733. Mel­boume-Mildura traffic, (qn.) 2734.

Goods Services-Non-use of way-bills, (qn.) 1069. Profits for 1960-61 and 1961-62, (qn.) 2434. Carriage of wheat harvest, 2926, 2927. Profit for 1962-63, (qn.) 3396.

Land-Lease of land at Elstemwick, (qn.) 3663.

Level Crossings-Accidents involving motor vehicles, (qn.) 316, 321, 330, 674. Over-passes: At Huntingdale, 2123; at Tylden-road, Woodend, 2924; at Hughesdale, 3931, 3934.

Livestock-Transport, 437, (qn.) 1069. Permanent Way--Cost and supply of

sleepers, (qn.) 3396. Rolling-stock-Damage, (qn.) 105. De­

railments, (qn.) 105, (qn.) 3317, 4195, 4197. Condition of Sunday train to Wangaratta and Albury, 419. On Reservoir and Heidelberg lines, 431. Supply of cast-steel bogie assemblies, (qn.) 662. Replacement parts, (qn.) 662. Suggested cast-steel foundry at Newport workshops, (qn.) 662.

Staff-Shortage, (qn.) 108, 432, 672, 762, 884. Increased salaries, 219, 762. De­ductions from employees' wages, (qns.) 1781, 3873. Assault of Mr. Barry McKenna: Absence from duty, (qn.) 2434; compensation payments, (qn.) 2434.

Stations, Sidings, Bridges and Buildings­New Spencer-street station: Price of contract, (qn.) 106, 334; construction faults, (qn.) 106, 326, 448, 674, 764; repair costs, (qn.) 106, (qn.) 662; re­pair work, (qn.) 583, (qn.) 662. Ruthven station: Need for traffic crossing, 441; repair staff employed, (qn.) 662; safety precautions, (qn.) 662. Rebuilding of Upfield station, (qns.) 1190, 1421. Shelter on standard gauge passenger platform at Wanga­ratta, 2792, (qn.) 3186. Bridge over Goulbum river: Construction costs and

Railway Department--continued.

completion, (qn.) 2872. Need for motorized trolleys at Ballarat station, 2926. Roofing of Camberwell station, (qn.) 3318. Condition of Merri station, (qn.) 3663. Private siding for Nabisco Pty. Ltd., (qn.) 4144. Off-street parking at suburban stations, (qn.) 4144.

Suburban Lines-Melbourne-Whittlesea line: Time-tables and trains employed, (qn.) 108; types of trains used and cleaning arrangements, (qn.) 108; electrification from Lalor to Epping, (qn.) 108, (qn.) 388, 440. Unmanned stations, (qn.) 108, 357, 432, 433, 449, 672, 674, 761, 763, (qn.) 3663; assaults on passengers and staff, 2924, 2927. Suggested loop lines, 358. Servicing of Tullamarine jet airport, 358. Extension of electrified service from Sunshine to Deer Park, 359, 581, 582. Damage by vandals, 433. Peep-holes in guards vans, 433, 449. Service to Upfield, (qns.) 1190, 4144. Railway bridge at Mordialloc: Accidents, compensation and reconstruction plans, (qn.) 1316. Special duties train patrol: Offenders detected, (qn.) 2433. Duplication of Macleod-Eltham-Hurstbridge line, 2922.

Railway Lands Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3090; second reading, 3092, 3225; remaining stages, 3230.

Railway Loan Application Bill-Appropria­tion resolution, 602; introduction and first reading, 602; second reading, 758, 1224, 1249, 1349; 1425, 1444; Com­mittee, 1452; third reading, 1469.

Railways (Financial Reports) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 56; second reading, 59, 622; remaining stages, 624. Council amendments dealt with, 1911.

Raising of School Leaving Age (Conse­quential Amendments) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2294; second reading, 2353, 2954; remaining stages, 2955.

Reid, Mr. G. O. (Box Hill). Adoption of Children Bill, 4171, 4172. Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3266. Apprenticeship (Amendment) Bill, 1821,

2104, 2356, 2378, 2948.

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Reid, Mr. G. O.-continued. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, 37,

221, 2310, 2311, 2312. Boilers Inspection Branch-(See "Labour

and Industry, Department of.") Bread Industry-Bakeries licensed in

metropolitan area, 3195, 3323. Building Industry-Safety precautions,

4195. Chemists' Shops-Number in metro­

politan area, 3872. Clothing Industry-Dining and rest

rooms in factories, 3661. Records and prosecutions, 3872. Outside workers, 3872.

Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­ment) Bill, 2580.

Dental Hospital-Dental mechanics and apprentices, 105.

Dry-cleaning Depots-Hours of trading, 3871.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 1821, 1878, 2745.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 778. Industrial Appeals Court-Fees and ex­

penses of bread industry reference, 3397.

Industrial Gas-Shortage of supplies, 3270.

Labour and Industry Act-Availability of copies, 1779.

Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill, 1469, 1744. 1750, 2193, 2195, 2197, 2949, 2950.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill, 3684, 3689, 3893.

Labour and Industry, Department of­Inspection of steam boilers and air and gas receivers, 385, 842. Revenue and expenditure of Boilers Inspection Branch for 1962, 663. Pressure vessels registered, 663. Explosion at Shepparton factory of Campbell's Soups (Aust.) Pty. Ltd., 1316. Breaches of legislation: Inspectors and union officials, 3575. Representations of Clothing Trades Union, 3871, 3872.

Labour and Industry (Employment of Children) Bill, 2438, 2461.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, 3245.

Loy Yang Coalfield - Investigations, 2735.

Maryborough Free Library and Literary Institute Bill, 3341.

Motor Car Bill, 1501.

Reid, Mr. G. O.-continued. Points of Order-Use of microphone by

member, 337. Relevancy of remarks, 1473, 1802. Reference to matter that is sub jUdice, 2587, 2588, 2599. State­ment in debate, 2592.

State Electricity Commission-Electricity charges, 315, 389, 2282. Concessions to industries, 389. Supplies and costs to Geelong consumers, 525. Acquisi­tion of municipal undertakings, 526. Waiting period for connexions, 588. Group schemes in Gippsland, 588. Briquetting plants Nos. 3 and 4, 719, 1318. Municipal undertakings, 722, 2281. Special tariff for Alcoa of Aust­ralia Proprietary Limited, 844. Con­nexion charge, 964. Self-help scheme, 964. Macclesfield-Nangana extensions, 1070. Cost of Glenburn extension, 1070. Cost of electricity generated at Yallourn "E" station, 2281. Warran­dyte-road electrical sub-station, 3122. Hazelwood power station: Defects in structural steel, 3242, 3395; foundations, 3319. Deputation to Minister, 4195.

State Electricity Commission (Amend­ment) Bill, 1319, 2776, 2777, 2779.

Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill, 116, 222, 1801, 1803.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill, 3138.

Reid, Mr. L. S. (Dandenong). Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1699. Doveton High School-Newspaper re­

port, 1238. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair­

man of Committees­Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 338, 1602.

Reid Murray Group-Operations, 347, 853, 2736, 2882, 2893, 2898.

Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser­vations Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3091, 3230; remaining stages, 3233.

Ring, Mr. E. C. (Preston). Education Department-Shortage of

staff in secondary schools, 3123; clearance of building residue from school grounds, 3124.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1818.

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Ring, Mr. E. C.-continued.

Forests Commission-Fire restrictions on days of acute fire danger, 3753.

Housing Commission-Car parking facili­ties at The Mall shopping centre, Heidelberg, 589. Purchase of land at Preston by Myer (Melbourne) Limited, 4143.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1923. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Drive-in theatres, 1877.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board - Staffing, 523. Hawthorn depot, 523. Salaries of Board members, 843.

Point of Order-References to Police Force, 550

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1112.

River Murray Waters Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1693; second read­ing, 1786, 2086; Committee, 2102; remaining stages, 2103.

River Murray Waters '(Menindee Lakes Storage) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1693; second reading, 1784, 2036; Committee, 2041; remaining stages, 2043.

Rivers and Streams Fund-Revenue and expenditure, (qn.) 107!.

Roads-Suggested establishment of State authority, (qn.) 98. Works: Finance, annual expenditure and construction, (qn.) 3187.

Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 184; second reading, 575, 1566; Committee, 1574, 2200; third reading, 2218.

Rossiter, Mr. J. F. (Brighton).

Acts of Parliament-Reprinting, 4046. Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill,

231!. Budget for Year 1963-64, 894.

Debate - Withdrawal of statements objected to, 894, 899, 3360.

Education Department-Students, 2007. Teachers, 2007. Registered schools, 2007. Report to Parliament, 2007.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2881, 2897. ,4567/64.-4

Rossiter, Mr. J. F.--continued.

Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 2947.

Health, Department of-Sale of medica­tion "Tussils," 898, 2948.

Litter Bill, 3360.

Local Government (Amendment) Bill, 1323.

Mental Health Authority-Establishment of sheltered workshops, 2947.

Motor Car Bill, 1486.

Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill, 4043.

Obscene Publications, 3434.

Parliament-Appointment of officers, 3087.

Points of Order-Alleged defiance of Chair, 702. Statement in debate, 3213.

Port Phillip Bay-Grounding of ships at Heads, 894.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1825, 1828, 1829.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1078.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1258.

Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, The, 1806.

Social Problems-Conditions in Fitzroy and elsewhere, 548.

Soldier Settlement Act-English used in schedule, 2948.

Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling, 2033.

Stamp Duty-Exemption of charitable organizations, 2897.

Subordinate Legislation Committee­Reports presented: Transport (Pro­tective Devices) Regulations 1963, 3754; Witnesses and Interpreters' Allowances Order, 3754; Coroners (Medical Expenses Regulations) 1963, 3754; Melbourne Harbor Trust Amend­ment (No. 56), 4014.

Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill, 1813.

Under-water Diving and Spear Fishing -Need for training, 288!.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill, 1593.

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Royal Agricultural Society-Development of stud stock, 437.

Royal Prince-Birth, 3185.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3245; declared a private Bill, 3254; motion that Bill be dealt with as a public Bill agreed to, 3254; second reading, 3255, 3500; re­maining stages, 3501.

Rural Finance and Settlement Commission -1963-64 Budget statement, 200. Heytesbury scheme, 919. Programme, 921. Dorodong settlement: Suggested reclaSSification, (qn.) 1668; soil tests, (qn.) 1668; results of tests on experi­mental plots, (qn.) 1668. Problems in Shelford-Rokewood soldier settle­ment area, 2930. French Island: Road construction and bore costs, (qn.) 3114. Allocation of holdings, (qn.) 3128. Applicants for land settlement, (qn.) 3128. East Goulburn land settlement scheme, (qn.) 3128.

Rylah, Mr. A. G. (Kew). Aborigines Welfare Board-Aboriginal

population, 384. Employment and social service payments, 384, 521. Accommodation, 521. (See also" Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station.")

Acts Interpretation (Commencement) Bill, 3089, 3097.

Adoption of Children Bill, 3919, 4016. Adoption of Children (Guardians) Bill,

170, 227. Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3089, 3134, 3880,

3881. Appropriation Bill, 2929. Athletic Clubs-Mixed betting licences,

587. Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill,

3991, 4015. Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­

pany Limited Bill, 2286, 2314. Australian Coast Guard Auxiliary-Con­

stitution, 3129. Policing of Motor Boat­ing Regulations, 3129.

Books and Magazines-Communications by Chief Secretary with distributors, 3320. Warnings to publishers and dis­tributors, 3399.

Business of the House-Order of business, _ 116, 580, 808, 1194, 1195, 1271, 1371, 1469, 2674. 4020. Hours of sitting, 1143, 1780.

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

Central Plasterwood Service Pty. Ltd.­Directors, 1873. Capital, 1873.

Children's Welfare (Retainers) Bill, 1821, 1889.

Clayton Timber and Trading Co. Pty. Ltd. -Investigation, 183.

Committee of Public Accounts-Appoint­ment, 50.

Companies Act-Activities of directors of building companies in liquidation, 182. Investigation of Clayton Timber & Trading Co. Pty. Ltd., 183. Investi­gation of Korman group, 314. Report on Public Fidelity and Audit Ltd., 846. Report of inspector, 1820, 2736. In­vestigation of companies, 3186. Legal proceedings against investigated com­panies, 3186.

Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 2438, 2441, 3050,3051.

Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.1), 450. Consolidated Revenue Bill (No.3), 3604. Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint

Elections) Bill, The, 3089, 3095. Country Fire Authority-Deregistration

of Lower Plenty Rural Fire Brigade, 171. Supply of equipment to urban and rural fire brigades, 1877. Bush fire precautions in Dandenong Ranges, 2735, 2874. Use of private aircraft for fire spotting operations, 3241, 3492.

Crime-Number of cases, 103. Crimes (Aircraft) Bill, 2438, 2444. Cultural and Recreational Lands Bill,

2792, 2875. Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1715. Debate - Withdrawal of statement

objected to, 3269. Dindas Pty. Ltd. - Directors, 1874.

Capital, 1874. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 2175, 2199. Electoral-Melbourne West Province by-

election, 113. Preferential voting system, 2285.

Estate Agents Act-Licences issued, 385. Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 4040. Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill,

170, 224. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2787. Evangelical Lutheran Church of Aus­

tralia (Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3244, 3684.

Evidence (Affidavits) Bill, 170, 224. Explosives Branch-Investigations into

fatality at Eppalock reservoir, 1073.

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Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

Fair Rents Board-" Controlled" pre­misses, 528. Prosecutions of landlords, 528.

Firearms-Issue of licences, 1414. Sale of rifles, 1414. Gun dealers, 1414. Issue and control of pistols and rifles, 1414. Offences, 1414.

Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill, 3089, 3099.

Fisheries and Wildlife Department­Poisoning of European carp in Yallourn dam, 2009. Revenue and expenditure, 2872. Development of wildlife reserves, 2873.

Foreign Judgments (Amendment) Bill, 718.

Fraudulent Debtors Commitment Bill, 718.

Free Library Service Board-Grants to municipalities, 110, 1546.

Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill, 3089, 3094.

Geelong Fishermen's Association-Seal menace to equipment, 3859.

George Weston Foods Limited-Control, 3195. Australian shareholders, 3195. Publication of accounts, 3195.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 4186. Governor's Salary Bill, 1784. Grievance Day-Suspension of Standing

Order, 967, 1693, 3754. Hansard-Pulls of members' speeches,

3793. High Court of Australia-Statement by

New South Wales Minister of Justice, 3398.

Horse-racing-Amalgamation of country clubs, 1545. Allocation of race days to country clubs, 2010. Activities of starting-price bookmakers, 2787.

House Committee-Appointment, 50. Housing Advances and Loans (Improper

Commissions) Bill, 4014, 4026. Housing Commission-Labour party

questionnaire, 228. Accommodation at Oakleigh for elderly citizens, 772.

Judges' Pensions Bill, 2176, 2312. Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill,

170, 225. Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 1820, 1890,

2672. Justices of the Peace-Applications, ap­

pointments, and roll, 113. Eligibility qualifications, 3243. Appointees from Police Department, 3243.

Juvenile Delinquency, 103, 515.

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Com­mission, 116, 2602.

Korman Group of Companies-Investiga­tions, 314, 2874.

Lake Tyers Aboriginal Station-Agricul­tural report, 181. Residents, 181. Staff nursing services and overtime, 181.

Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2316. Latrobe Valley-Employment for young

people, 2010. Law Department-Court cases awaiting

hearing, 184. Additions and improve­ments to courts, 845. Provision of clerical assistance to and salaries of judiciary, 845. Committals for trial by courts of petty sessions, 2283. Stipendiary magistrates, 2283. Hear-ing of divorce cases, 3189. Legal assistance, 3399. (See also "Justices of the Peace,")

Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill, 1142, 1195. Library Committee-Appointment, 50. Library Services-Consideration by Board

of Inquiry of functioning of regional library services, 3115.

Licensing Act-Hotels and licensed grocers, 3321.

Licensing Court-Salaries and travelling allowances of chairman and members, 1415. Permits for social functions, 2174.

Liquor Industry-Proposed inquiry, 102, 844.

Maiella Construction Co. Pty. Ltd.­Directors, dividends and shareholders, 179. Government contracts, 179. In­come and dividends, 841.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Discharge of sewage into Yarra river, 1841.

Melbourne Harbor Trust Regulations, 4147.

Members-Leave of absence, 37. Motor Car Act-Amount collected from

£1 surcharge, 3319. Motor Car Bill, 591, 799, 807, 1488, 1789,

1791, 1792, 1793, 1794, 2792. Motor Car Driving Instructors-Tests,

4145. Training, 4145. Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences)

Bill, 3790, 3874. Motor Registration Branch-Decentraliza­

tion of activities, 522. Registration plates for privately-owned vehicles,

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Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

1317. Registration of vehicles used for driving instruction, 1317. Site for new offices, 1876.

Motor Vehicles-Installation of seat belts as standard equipment, 317, 3659. Commercial trailers registered, 1190. Motor car registrations, 3187.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Com­pensation to landowners, 3206. Re­imbursement of legal expenses and fees, 3206.

Municipalities - Metropolitan popula-tions, 3860.

Obscene Publications, 3235, 3246, 3322. Off-course Totalizator-Contributions of

race clubs, 1417. Parliamentary Library-Availability of

The Group, 3268. Pascoe Vale R.S.L. and Citizens Youth

Club-Building site, 808. Pentridge Gaol-Compensation to injured

prisoner, 182. Press statement, 3570. Suggested removal from Coburg, 3570. Overcrowding, 4145. Accommodation in "C" division, 4145.

Personal Explanation-Truth newspaper report, 3576.

Points of Order-Urgency of motion, 528. Statements in debate, 532, 3202. Right of member to speak again in Budget debate after amendment has been moved, 892, 893. Relevancy of remarks, 1140, 1602, 2790, 3694, 4030. Discus­sion of subject raised on motion for adjournment of a sitting, 3234.

Police Classification Board - Police salaries, 387.

Police Department-Proposed stations: At Niddrie, 319; at Gardenvale, 388; at East Bentleigh, 1070; at North Fawkner, 1416; at Mount Buller, 3934. Motor vehicles, 526, 3239. Availability of Chief Commis­sioner's report, 581. Strength of Force, 666, 3493. Broadmeadows North police station, 966. Residence at Longwarry, 1070. Acquisition and use of property at St. Kilda, 1071. Provision of sub­station at St. Kilda, 1071. Blood alcohol and breathalyzer tests by police surgeons, 1416, 1543. Promotions within Department, 1544. Police College, 1782. Transfer of East Gipps­land headquarters, 2735. Motor Boating Squad, 3195. Dossier on Communists,

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

3195. Incidence of crime and strength of Force in Northcote area, 3238. Work in snowlands of Search and Rescue Squad, 3392. Cadets and reservists, 3493. Presentation of credentials, 3570. Dossiers on fascist and neo­nazi organizations and individuals, 3749. Use of old Dental Hospital build­ing, 3749. Application for appointment by Mr. K. J. Nelson, 3750. Need for motor car for Hawthorn Criminal Investigation Branch, 3934. (See also "Justices of the Peace" and "Queen Victoria Market.")

Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3684, 3790, 3917, 3919.

Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill, 1821, 2034, 2647.

Poor Persons Legal Assistance Act­Assistance provided, 3192.

Printing Committee-Appointment, 51. Prisons Division-Prison population and

accommodation, 664. Privilege, Question of, 3982. Process Servers and Inquiry Agents

(Qualification) Bill, 3927. Public Fidelity and Audit Ltd.-Report,

846. Public Lands and Works Bill, 3705. Queen Victoria Market-Police investiga­

tion into shot-gun crimes and alleged corruption, 3118, 3571. Amending market legislation, 3118.

Racing Bill, 2010. Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill, 3920,

3927. Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2118, 2470,

2471. Racing (Totalizators Extension) Act­

Revenue, 2873. Reid Murray Holdings Limited-Forced

realization auction sale of Fern Tree Gully estate, 4139.

Road Accidents-Fatalities and injuries, 103.

Road Traffic-Bookings for infringements, 665. Tram stop outside Parliament House, 3235.

Road Traffic (Iufringements) Bill, 184, 575, 1574, 2203, 2212, 2215, 2216, 2218.

R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3245.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill, 1370, 1421.

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Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill, 3577, 3901, 4044.

Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, The, 1469, 1553.

Ski-ing-Use of gas appliances in ski lodges, 1143. Raising of funds by raffle for Australian Olympic ski team, 3186.

Social Problems--Conditions in Fitzroy and elsewhere, 535.

Social Welfare Branch-Assistance to widows and deserted wives, 525, 3860. Pensions, 1371. Part-time lecturers in training division, 2871.

Soft-drink Bottles-Recommendations of Coroner relating to re-use, 2734.

Speaker, The-Leave of absence, 1469. Relief of Deputy Speaker by Temporary Chairmen of Committees, 1784.

Stamp Duty-Issue of High Court writ on behalf of hire-purchase companies, 3659. Revenue, 3659.

Standard Insurance Co. Ltd. (Amendment) Bill, 2285, 2315.

Standardization and Marking of Packaged Goods-Report of Board of Inquiry, 3991, 4296.

Standing Orders Committee-Appoint-ment, 50.

State Insurance Funds Bill, 1821, 1889. Statute Law Revision Bill, 2438, 2443. 1

Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 3684, 3705, 3707.

Statute Law Revision Committee-Ap­pointment, 50.

Subordinate Legislation Committee-Ap­pointment, 50.

Superannuation Bill, 1744, 1893, 1899, 2456, 2458, 2951.

Supply, 2928, 3603. Supreme Court-Report of Judges, 37. Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges)

Bill, 3921, 4028. Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill,

718. Tattooing-Prosecu tions for con traven tion

of Act, 2736. Television Servicing-Investigation of

alleged racketeering, 963, 1717. Third-party Insurance-Reciprocal ar­

rangement between States, 3397. Titles Office-Use of typists at Morwell,

3194. Decentralization of office, 3194. Totalizator Agency Board-Yearly profits

and distribution, 99, 389. Staff, 99. Location and control of agencies, 99.

Rylah, Mr. A. G.-continued.

Administration cost, 99. Surpluses, re­ceipts and payments to State, 99. Ex­pected revenue, 525.

Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 1889. Trading Stamp Schemes-Promotion,

3241. Traditional Permanent Building Society­

Proposed sale of society, 3658. Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants)

Bill, 3873, 4024. Transfer of Land (Service Agreements)

Bill, 3089. Transport Regulation Board-Site for new

offices, 1876. Trotting Control Board-Installation and

operation of manual totalizator, 1874. Revenue, 1874. Attendances at trotting meetings, 1874. Investments, 1874.

Trustee (Charitable Trusts) Bill, 3245. Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Ex­

ecutors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 115, 223.

Underseas Mineral Resources Bill, 2673. University Education-Proposed university

college at Ballarat, 587 Victorian Football League-Anzac Day

fixtures, 3400. Ways and Means, 450. Weedicides and Pesticides-Article in Bal­

larat Courier re effect on fish and wild­life, 1415.

Widows and Deserted Wives-Assistance from Social Welfare Branch for care of children, 525, 3860.

Wills (Formal Validity) Bill, 3401, 3438. Workers Compensation Act-Settlement

of claims, 2734. Youth Organizations Assistance Fund­

Funds distributed by Youth Advisory Council, 584, 720.

Zoological Gardens-Attendances, re­ceipts, Government grants, and admit­tance fees, 3570.

S. Sale of Goods-Amendment of legislation,

(qn.) 3190.

Sale of Land (Amendment) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 1370; second reading, 1421, 1807; Committee and remaining stages, 1809. Correction of clerical error, 2199.

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Savings Banks - Statutory requirements re deposits with banks and investment of funds, 738. Proportion of funds loaned for housing, 738, 741. Deposits: Figures for States, 3327. (See also "State Savings Bank.")

Scanlan, Mr. A. H. (Oakleigh).

Air Pollution-Administration of Clean Air Act, 1755. Emission of soot in Oak­leigh area, 1756. Need for deposit gauge in Oakleigh, 1766. Sulphur dioxide concentration in Oakleigh area, 1766. Emission of sulphuric acid, 1767. Prosecutions, 1767.

Central Plasterboard Service Pty. Ltd.­Directors, 1873. Capital, 1873.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1708. Dindas Pty. Ltd.-Directors, 1874. Capital,

1874. Education-Standards and comparisons

of expenditure, 341. Education Department-School leaving

age, 341. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2884, 2921.

Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 1755, 1766.

Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 2938.

Housing Commission-Elderly citizens' accommodation in Oakleigh, 719, 771.

Litter Bill, 3360. Mental Hygiene Branch-Need for hostel

in Oakleigh for retarded children, 2921. National Museum-Display of exhibits,

2884. Shortage of scientific and expert staff, 2885.

Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4157. Railway Department-Over-pass oat Hunt­

ingdale, 2123. Hughesdale level crossing, 3930.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1349. Standing Orders-Suggested amendment,

2938. Supply, 341. University Education-Quota system, 346.

Schintler, Mr. G. R. (Yarraville).

Agriculture, Department of-Foot-rot in sheep, 3574, 3660.

Australian and Overseas Insurance Com­pany Limited Bill, 2377.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 946. Coal Canal-Temporary bridge, 946.

Schintler, Mr. G. R.-continued.

Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­ized Industries) Bill, 1910.

Co-operative Housing Societies-Value of system, 948.

Death-The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 3799. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill,

(No.2), 3145. Housing-Financing, 948. Shortage, 949.

Contribution of savings banks, 949. Housing Commission-Waiting list of ap­

plicants, 948. Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1917. Legislative Assembly-Provision of ampli­

fication system, 950. Mildura Irrigation and Water Trusts Bill,

619. Oil Installations-Fire-fighting precau­

tions, 4006. Points of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

549, 896. Police Department - Footscray police

station, 3439. Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2373. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2638. Railway Department-Derailments, 181,

3317. Revocation and Excision of Crown Reser­

vations Bill, 3230. Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1347, 1348. Standard Insurance Company Limited

(Amendment) Bill, 2376. Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill, 1814. Stony Creek-Clearing of flood waters and

silt, 947. Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust)

Land Bill, 1595.

Scott, Mr. G. L. (Ballaarat South).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 961. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentral­

ized Industries) Bill, 1832. Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payments

by Victoria, 2913. Co-operative Housing Societies-Adminis­

tration, 951. Distribution of Population Committee­

Final report, 954. Education Department-Use of former

Ballarat girls' school property, 2735. Pupils' travelling allowances, 2888.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2884, 2888, 2913, 2917, 2926.

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Scott, Mr. G. D.-continued. Police Department - Superintendents

stationed in country living in Mel­bourne, 2884.

Premier-Record term of office of Mr. Bolte, 2383.

Queen Elizabeth Home for the Aged, 953. Railway Department-Ballarat North

workshops, 2284. Request by Balla­rat Historical Society for preservation of Phoenix locomotive, 2926. Need for motorized vehicle at Ballarat station, 2926.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1446. Royal Melbourne Hospital-Eligibility for

admission, 2917. South-street, Ballarat, Competitions, 955. State Electricity Commission-Stoppage

of work, 953. University Education-Proposed university

college at Ballarat, 587.

Sewerage Districts Bill-Introduction and first reading, 115; second reading, 215, 620; Committee and remaining stages, 622.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3577; second reading, 3901, 4044, 4147; Committee, 4154, 4164; remaining stages, 4165.

Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, The-Introduction and first reading, 1469; declared a private Bill, 1553; motion that Bill be treated as a public Bill agreed to, 1553; second reading, 1553, 1803; remaining stages, 1807.

Ski Lodges-Death of ski instructor, 1142. Use of gas appliances, 1143.

Snider, Mr. B. D. (St. Kilda). Australian and Overseas Insurance Com-

pany Limited Bill, 2377. Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 3053. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2878. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1327. Motor Car Bill, 1492. Police Department-Acquisition and use

of property at St. Kilda, 1071. Provis­ion of sub-station, 1071. Suggested beach patrols, 2878.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1098. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2031.

Snider, Mr. B. D.-continued. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair­

man of Committees-Debate-Member to address the Chair,

700. Extension of time for member's speech on the Budget, 701. Competency of motion for suspension of Standing Orders to be moved in Committee, 702. Members may speak only once in Budget debate, 890. Quorum, 924. Inter­jections, 925, 935, 959, 1334, 1339, 2211. Use of expression objected to, 954. Relevancy of remarks, 955, 2200, 2205.

Rulings and Statements as Acting Speaker-

Debate-Ambit of second-reading debate, 3775. Discussion on motion for the adjournment of a sitting, 3235.

Social Problems-Conditions at Fitzroy and elsewhere, 338, 340, 528, 2043.

Social Welfare Branch-1963-64 Budget statement, 193. Youth Welfare Division: Staff, (qn.) 103. Assistance to widows and deserted wives, (qn.) 525, (qn.) 3859. Pensions, 1370, 1371. Rates of payments for State wards, 1762, 2043, 2790. Reception centre at Mildura, 2056. Training division: Part-time lec­turers, (qn.) 2871; scholarships or bur­saries, (qn.) 2871. Co-operation with Housing Commission, 2920. (See also II Juvenile Delinquency" and II Prisons Division.")

Soft-drink Bottles-Coroner's recommenda­tion on re-use, (qn.) 2734.

Soil Conservation Authority-Activities, 434.

Soldier Settlement Act-Language used in schedule, 2948.

Speaker, Deputy-Temporary relief in chair, 1784.

Speaker, The-Leave of absence, 1469. Absence, 1781, 3748. Disagreement with ruling, 2010.

Speaker, The (Sir William McDonald). Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi­

dent of the United States of America, 3025, 3088.

Auditor-General's report for year ended 30th June, 1963, 671. Supplementary report, 1074.

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Speaker, The (Sir William McDonald)­continued.

Bills Declared Private-Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Executors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill, 783; The Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill, 1553; The Evangelical Church of Australia (Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, 3254; R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers' Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3254.

Chairmen of Committees, Temporary­Appointment, 36.

Deaths-The Hon. Ian Macfarlan, 3316. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 3800.

Debate-Removal of woman from gallery, 41. Interjections, 41, 55, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 156, 158, 159, 542, 549, 1013, 1354, 1672, 1684, 1690, 1691, 3214, 3268, 3518, 3671, 3675, 4005, 4006. Relevancy of remarks, 540, 542, 546, 547, 548, 549, 613, 993, 1007, 1079, 1355, 1584, 1591, 1699, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2018, 2020, 2030, 2033, 2053, 2187, 2189, 2740, 2777, 2937, 3879, 3927. Quotation from speech made in Legis­lative Council, 127. Member to address the Chair, 129, 451, 605. Motion under Standing Order 780, 145. Motion not constituting an amendment of motion before the Chair, 147. Order of speakers, 543, 1681, 1682, 1683. Use of expressions objected to, 544, 3269, 3367, 3676, 3678. Motion that Standing Orders be suspended may be moved only by leave, 549. Use of provocative language, 549. Time for presentation of petitions, 581. Question without notice, 591. Right of member to make state-ment, 1022. Reference to " your Government," 1142. Substantive motion for adjournment of the debate to be decided without further duscus­sion, 1244. Financial Bill to be founded on Gov.ernor's message, 1319. Mem­ber not obliged to withdraw statement which may later be refuted, 1678. Con­versation in Chamber, 1879, 1908. Frivolous amendment, 1909. Scope of third-reading debate, 2198. Wording of motion under Standing Order 8B, 3200, 3203, 3204, 3211, 3212. Discussion per­mitted on question that leave be granted, 3245. Members speaking to both motion and amendment, 3517. Minister not to debate speech made by another person, 3670. Raising of matter

Speaker, The (Sir William McDonald)­continued.

that is sub judice, 3982, 3984. Govern­ment to determine time of adjournment of sitting, 4044.

Disagreement with Ruling-201O, 2015. Governor's Speech-Address-in-Reply, 38.

Presentation of Address-in-Reply, 3088. Hansard-Availability of proofs, 453, 990,

992. Report of member's speech, 1023. Incorporation of unread tabulated state-ments, &c., 1881. .

Legislative Assembly-Time of dinner ad­journment, 789. Ringing of bells on adjournment, 2322.

Minister of Public Works-Appointment as Agent-General, 3936.

Motor Car Bill, 846. Parliament - Appointment of officers,

3086, 3087. Privilege, Question of, 3981. Sessional Period, Close of -Christmas

felicitations, 3081.

Stamp Duty. (See " Taxation-Stamp Duty.")

Stamps (Amendment) Bill-Intro,duction and first reading, 967; second reading, 967, 1346; appropriation resolution, 1347; Committee, 1347; remaining stages, 1349.

Stamps (Exemptions) Bill-Appropriation resolution, 3577; introduction and first reading, 3577; second reading, 3577, 3691; remaining stages, 3691.

Standard Insurance Company Limited (Amendment) Bill - Received from Council and first reading, 2285; second reading, 2315, 2376; remaining stages, 2377.

Standardization and Marking of Packaged Goods-Report of Board of Inquiry, 3991, 4296.

Standing Orders - Suggested amendment, 2938.

Standing Orders Committee-Appointed, 51.

State Development-Assistance to organi­zations, (qn.) 179.

State Electricity Commission-Administration-Stoppage, 953. Trans­

port of poles from East Gippsland, 3930, 3934. Deputation to Minister, 4194, 4196.

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State Electricity Commission-continued.

Briquettes-Briquetting plants Nos. 3 and 4, (qn.) 719, 723, 1318.

Charges-Residential and commercial tariffs, ( qn.) 315, ( qn.) 389. Conces­sions to industries, (qn) 389. Uniform tariff, 724. Special tariff for Alcoa of Australia Proprietary Limited, ( qns.) 844, 1782. For electricity connexions, (qn.) 964. Costing methods, (qn.) 1782. Increased charges in metropo­litan area. (qn.) 2281.

Electricity Supplies-Cost of supplies to Geelong consumers, (qn.) 525. Waiting period for connexions, (qn.) 588, 751, 943. Group schemes in Gippsland, (qn.) 588. Calulu-Melwood-Flaggy Creek extension, 753. Extension to Erica, 753. cc Self-help" schemes, (qn.) 964. Files re Macclesfield and Macclesfield­Nangana extensions, (qn.) 1070. Glen­burn extension: Cost, (qn.) 1070. Generating costs, (qn.) 228l. War­randyte-road sub-station, (qn.) 3122.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 204. Hazehvood Power . Station-Construc­

tion faults, 3082, 3085 (qns.) 3242, 3395. Foundations, (qn.) 3318.

Metropolitan Electrical Undertakings­Takeover, ( qns.) 526, 2281. Financial position, (qn.) 722.

State Electricity Commission (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1319; second reading, 2774.

State Forests Loan Application Bill­Appropriation resolution, 57; introduc­tion and first reading, 57; second read­ing, 64, 602; Committee, 616; remaining stages, 617.

State Insurance Funds Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1821; second read­ing, 1889, 2290; remaining stages, 2294.

State Insurance Office-Suggested broaden­ing of charter, 403, 408. Interest rates, 405. Interest paid on funds, 749. Investments, (qn.) 4138.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-

Administration-Policy on sub divisional land values, (qn.) 182. Attitude to landholders on Mornington Peninsula, 334. Underwater explosives tests in reservoirs, (qn.) 590, (qn.) 1072. Cost and findings of Mount Eliza reservoir

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis-sion-continued.

inquiry, (qn.) 844; Government policy, 873, (qn.) 1784; compensation to pro­perty owners, (qn.) 1784, (qn.) 3117, 3197; claims for legal expenses and valuers' fees, (qn.) 3117, 3197; pay­ments by Mr. R. M. Ansett, (qn.) 3117. Rates and charges levied by country waterworks trusts, (qn.) 3394. Num­ber and duties of valuers, (qn.) 3572; valuations, (qn.) 3572.

Chowilla Dam-Construction, 441, 2055. Drainage-Outfall drain in Beverford

district, (qn.) 180. Appeals by land­owners in Murray Valley against drain­age rates, (qn.) 1190. Duplication of Red Cliffs system, (qn.) 1878. Flooding of property at Nathalia, 2472, 2474. Flooding of Jack Smith's lake, (qn.) 3858. Flood gates at Tooradin, (qn.) 3859.

Eppalock Weir-Fatality during tests with explosives, (qn.) 1751.

Finance-1963-64 Budget statement, 198. Irrigation Districts-Additional water

rights, (qn.) 386. River Murray system: Allocation of water, (qn.) 386. Issue of water rate notices to dried fruits growers, (qn.) 963. Diversion licences, (qn.) 3989; increased water allocations, (qn.) 3989.

River Improvement Trusts-1963-64 Bud­get statement, 200.

Sewerage-Government subsidies, (qn.) 98. 1963-64 Budget statement, 199. Rating in country districts, 1755, 2942, (qn.) 3988. For Karingal estate, Frankston, (qn.) 3859.

Water Storages-1963-64 Budget state­ment, 198. Tarago river: Proposed dam, (qn.) 1414, (qn.) 3750.

Water Supply and Works-1963-64 Bud­get statement, 199. Water conserva­tion programme, 436. Distribution policy, 441. Provision of private main in Osborne, (qn.) 3750.

Waterworks Trusts-Capital works for­mula for country trusts, (qn.) 3659.

State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill­Appropriation resolution, 37; introduc­tion and first reading, 37; second read­ing, 37, 51; Committee and remaining stages, 56.

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State Savings Bank (Amendment) Bill (No. 2)-Introduction and first reading, 1821; second reading, 1927, 2294; appropriation resolution, 2296; Com­mittee and remaining stages, 2296.

State Savings Bank of Victoria-Charter 741, 748. (See also cc Savings Banks.")

State Service Concert Orchestra-Activi­ties, 2909.

Statute Law Revision Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2438; second reading, 2443, 2462; remaining stages, 2462.

Statute Law Revision Bill (No. 2)-Intro­duction and first reading, 3684; second reading, 3705, 3919; report of Statute Law Revision Committee presented, 3873; remaining stages, 3920.

Statute Law Revision Committee-Assembly members appointed, 50. Reports presented: Workers Compensa­tion Act 1958, 670; Police Offences Bill, 1670; Show-cause Summonses and Sub­poenas, 1820; Statute Law Revision Bill, 2175; Estate Agent Acts, 2285; Public Lands and Works Bill, 2561; Wrongs Act 1958, 2736; restrictive covenants, 3088; section 28 of Evidence Act, 1958, 3088; Disposal of Uncollected Goods Act 1961, 3088; Police Offences (Further Amendment) Bill 1963, 3499; Statute Law Revision Bill (No.2), 3873; Sale of Land Act, 3991.

Stirling, Mr. H. V. (Swan Hill).

Fisheries and Wildlife Department­Revenue and expenditure, 2873. Devel­opment of wildlife reserves, 2873.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1090. Railway Department-Freight conces­

sions on wool, 106. Transport of live­stock, 1069.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1358. River Murray Waters Bill, 2094. River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes

Storage) Bill, 2039, 2042. State Electricity Commission-Charges

and concessions to industries, 389. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Outfall drain in Beverford dis­trict, 180. Additional water rights, 386.

Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill­Received from Council and first read­ing, 450; second reading, 578, 1814; remaining stages, 1815.

Stokes, Mr. R. N. (Evelyn).

Agent-General in London-Administra­tion, 2783.

Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement, 3520.

Country Fire Authority-Deregistration of Lower Plenty Rural Fire Brigade, 170.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2783, 2791, 2922.

Hospitals and Charities (Amendment) Bill, 3078.

Police Department-Police protection in area between Greensborough and Eltham, 2791.

Railway Department.-Proposed duplica­tion of Macleod-Hurstbridge line, 2922. Suggested use of standard gauge in underground railway, 2923.

Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair­man of Committees-

Debate-Relevancy of remarks, 350, 354, 4193. Similarity of amendments, 4167.

Stoneham, Mr. C. P. (Midlands). Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens,

1670. Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill,

2561. Agriculture, Department of-Tractor test­

ing station at Werribee, 3574. Alcoholism Foundation of Victoria­

Government grant, 2915. Assassination of John F. Kennedy, Presi­

dent of the United States of America, 2431, 2433.

Athlone Mechanics' Institute Land Bill, 4015.

Auditor-General-Availability of report, 451.

Budget for Year, 1963-64, 671. Cement-Consignments from Geelong to

Melbourne, 845. Child Day Care ServiceS-Management,

registration, and inspection, 3119. Templestowe day nursery, 3119.

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Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued.

Coal Mines, (Amendment) Bill, 2631. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decentra­

lized Industries) Bill, 971, 1334, 1833, 1835, 1900, 1905, 1908.

Commonwealth Aid Roads Conference, 3511.

Constitution Act Amendment (Conjoint Elections) Bill, The, 3139.

Deaths-The Hon. Ian Macfarlan, 3315. The Hon. W. J. Mibus, 3798.

Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob­jected to, 954, 1465, 3202.

Decentralization-Report of Distribution of Population Committee, 323, 680. Closure of country flour mills, 2781.

Dried Fruits Industry-Aid to growers, 318. Report of Australian Dried Fruits Control Board for year 1962-63, 326.

Education-Report on tertiary education, 674, 686, 687. School leaving age, 683.

Education (Adult Education) Bill, 3900. Education Department-Application by

footballer-teachers for leave, 722. Ex­penditure from Consolidated Revenue, 684. Increase in secondary school numbers, 684. Teacher-pupil ratio, 684. Temporary teachers, 685. Short­age of class-rooms in primary schools, 685. Qualifications of secondary teachers, 686. Temporary school accom­modation, 686. Student teachers in training, 686. Employment of office staff at schools, 687. Assembly halls, 687.

Electrical Undertakings Bill, 2583, 2588. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2779, 2781,

2782, 2786, 2790, 2915, 2923. Final Supplementary Estimates for 1962-63, 1751. Debating procedure, 2782.

Evangelical Lutheran Church of Aust­ralia (Victorian District) Incorporation Bill, The, 3499.

Explosives Branch-Investigations into fatality at Eppalock reservoir, 1072.

Farm Produce Merchants and Commis­sion Agents Bill, 3341, 3691, 4033, 4034.

Forests Commission-Fires in Heyfield and Jamieson areas, 3399, 3753, 3990.

Geelong Planning Scheme-Proposed ring road, 3189, 3578.

Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill, 4187. Government Departments and Instru­

mentalities - Industrial relationships, 671.

Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued.

Governor, His Excellency Major-General Sir Rohan Delacombe, KC.M.G., KB.E., C.B., D.S.O. KSt.J.-Visits to country districts, 2929.

Governor's Salary Bill, 1443. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply,

2929. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill,

782. Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill

(No.2), 3141. Healesville District Hospital-Report of

Board of Inquiry, 678. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3598. Hospitals, Government Subsidized-Diag­

nostic investigations, 843. Housing Commission-Eviction proceed ..

ings against Heywood tenant, 177. Judges' Salaries and Allowances Bill,

1831. Kindergarten - Increased accommoda­

tion at kindergarten training college, Kew, 674, 688. Shortage of teachers, 2932.

Kings Bridge-Report of Royal Com­mission, 36, 126, 326, 674, 691, 2601. Insurance, 589. Payment for repairs, 2786, 3120. Dates of opening and failure, 3120.

Labour and Industry, Department of­Explosion at Shepparton factory of Campbell's Soups (Australia) Proprie­tary Limited, 1316.

Labour and Industry (Equal Pay) Bill, 3245.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 1340. Legislative Assembly-Suspension of sit­

ting for dinner, 2779. Licensing Court-Salaries and travelling

allowances of chairman and members, 1415.

Local Government-Report of Commission of Inquiry, 677.

Marine Board of Victoria-Port Phillip Bay pilotage exemptions, 3083.

Maryborough Free Library and Literary Institute Bill, 3510.

Medical Profession-University of Mel­bourne graduates, 521. Registrations of general practitioners and specialists, 521. Numbers in governmental service in metropolis and country, 521.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Deep sewerage project between Spotswood and Brooklyn, 589, 1414.

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Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued. Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued. Members-Leave of absence, 37, 671,

1878. Appreciation of services of retir­ing members, 4293.

Mental Health Authority-Pension pay­ments to mentally retarded persons, 964, 1190. Psychiatric centre at Bendigo, 2437.

Minister of Public Works-Appointment as Agent-General, 3935.

Ministry-Appointment of Mr. Balfour as Minister of Water Supply and Minister of Mines, 3981.

Motor Boats-Registrations and payments to Tourist Development Fund, 524. Provision of facilities, 524. Purchase of boats for policing legislation, 524, 2870.

Motor Registration Branch-Decentra­lization of activities, 522.

Motor Vehicles-Accidents on Hume Highway, 2933.

Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Findings of Board of Inquiry, 1784. Compensa­tion to property owners, 1784, 3117, 3197. Claims for legal expenses and valuers' fees, 3117, 3197. Payments by Mr. R. M. Ansett, 3117.

National Parks Bill, 4037, 4296. Newmarket Sale-yards-Removal, 677. North-West Mallee Settlers-Case of Mrs.

Mudge, 675. Obscene Publications, 3422. Ombudsman - Suggested appointment,

2932. Outward Bound Movement-Hume weir

tragedy, 1193. Parliament - Appointment of officers,

3086. Points of Order-Reference to Mr. Swan­

son, 158. Order of speakers, 543, 1682. Suspension of Standing Order 8B, 549. Right of member to speak again in Budget debate after amendment has been moved, 893. Statements in de­bate, 1270, 1678, 2592, 3207, 3583. Amendment of Bill following third­reading, 1909. Relevancy of remarks, 2018, 2777, 2778. Wording of motion under Standing Order 8B, 3198.

Police Department-Strength of Force, 689. Report of Chief Commissioner, 690. Investigation re Queen Victoria Market, 3118, 3571.

Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal) Bill, 2635.

Port Phillip Bay-Need for Government action re Corsair rock, 325. Ground­ings on Corsair rock, 522, 681.

Press Report on Sex and Pornography, 3532.

Privilege, Question of, 3981, 3982, 3984. Public Lands and Works Bill, 3705. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 1821, 1828. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4191. Quarries-Price fixing, 1668.

Queen Victoria Market-Police investiga­tion into shot-gun crimes and alleged corruption, 3118, 3571. Amending market legislation, 3118.

Racing (Interstate Totalizators) Bill, 4036.

Racing (Totalizators) Bill, 2462. Railway Department - Derailments,

damage and track maintenance staff on Melbourne-Wodonga line, 105. New Spencer-street station, 106, 326, 674. Level crossings accidents, 321, 674. Shortage of staff, 672. Unmanned stations, 672, 2924. Railway Equaliza­tion Account, 673. Working expenses, 1751. Detection by special duties train patrols of offences, 2433. Assault on Mr. B. McKenna, 2434.

Railway Lands Bill, 3093. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1224, 1464. Railways (Financial Reports) Bill, 60,

622, 1911. River Murray Waters Bill, 1789, 2086. River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes

Storage) Bill, 1786, 2036. Royal Family-Birth of Royal Prince,

3186. Rural Finance and Soldier Settlement

Commission-Shelford-Rokewood area, 2930.

Sessional Period, Close of-Felicitations, 3080, 4296.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill, 4147.

Social Problems-Conditions in Fitzroy and elsewhere, 548.

Social Welfare Branch - Payments for wards in foster homes, 2790.

Soft-drink Bottles - Recommendations of Coroner relating to re-use, 2734.

Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling, 2010.

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Stoneham, Mr. C. P.-continued. State Electricity Commission-Supplies

and costs to Geelong consumers, 525. Special tariff for Alcoa of Australia Proprietary Limited, 844. Tariffs, 1782. Cost of electricity generated at Yallorun "E" station, 2281. Deputa­tion to Minister, 4194.

State Electricity Commission (Amend­ment) Bill, 2778.

State Forests Loan Application Bill, 67, 602.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Underwater explosives tests in reservoirs, 590, 1751. Issue of water rates notices to dried fruits growers, 963.

Superphosphate-Availability of sup-plies, 4045.

Supply, 321, 3578. Television-Servicing of sets, 322, 680,

690, 963. University Education-Costs, 687. Pro­

posed third university, 3707, 3987. Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Re­

commendation of Commission of Pub­lic Health, 3189.

Water Bill, 1555, 1565, 2104. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1195. Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill, 2955. Wheat Research Institute-Location, 679.

Stony Creek-Clearing of floodwaters and silt, 947.

Subordinate Legislation Committee-Assembly members appointed, 50. Re­ports presented: Meat Transport Vehicles Regulations, 2175; Melbourne Harbor Trust (Amendment) Regula­tions, 1963, 2875; Transport (Protec­tive Devices) Regulations 1963, 3754; Witnesses and Interpreters' Allowances Order, 3754; Coroners (Medical Ex­penses) Regulations 1963, 3754; Mel­bourne Harbor Trust Regulations (Amendment No. 56), 4014; General Report, 4146.

Suggett, Mr. R. H. (Moorabbin). Door to Door (Sales) Bill, 3055. Obscene Publications, 3436. Petrol Excise-Grants to States, 3392. Point of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

1118.

Suggett, Mr. R. H.-continued. Police Department-Station at East Bent­

leigh, 1070. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 1831. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1120.

Superannuation Act-Pensions paid to former State employees and dependants, (qn.) 2281.

Superannuation Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1744; second reading, 1893, 2445; Committee, 2456; appropriation resolution, 2456; remaining stages, 2461. Council amendments dealt with, 2951.

Superphosphate-Supplies and deliveries, ( qn.) 3393, 3933, 4045, 4046.

Supply-Form of presentation, 401, 3329. Supply, Committee of-Appointed, 56.

Votes on account, 216, 321, 394, 3324, 3578, 3601.

Supreme Court-Report of Judges for the year 1962, 37.

Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3921; second reading, 4028; remaining stages, 4031.

Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill­Received from Council and first read­ing, 718; second reading, 780, 1812; remaining stages, 1814.

Sutton, Mr. P. K. (Albert Park).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 729. Education-Expenditure, 730. Suggested

national inquiry, 731. Report on State education, 731. Expenditure and standards, 732. School leaving age, 732.

Education Department Teachers' salaries, 730. Sizes of classes, 731. Subsidies for school libraries, 2885. Library accommodation for smaller type secondary schools, 2888.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2885. Free Library Service Board-Statutory

obligation, 2886. Labour and Industry (Employment of

Children) Bill, 2641. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1077. Raising of School Leaving Age (Con­

sequential Amendments) Bill, 2954.

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Sutton, Mr. P. K.-continued. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2019. Tourist (Amendment) Bill, 1888, 2296. University (Amendment) Bill, 2368.

Swallow and Ariell Ltd. (See cc Companies.")

T. Tanner, Mr. E. S. (Ripponlea).

Broken Glass-Responsibility for re­moval from roads and beaches, 2474.

Labour and Industry (Chemists' Shops) Bill, 3892.

Legislative Assembly - Ringing of bells on adjournment, 2322.

Obscene Publications, 3437. Rulings and Statements as Acting Chair­

man of Committees-Debate-Reference to legislation in

Supply debate, 405, 406, 407. Member to address the Chair, 854, 3588, 3589. Relevancy of remarks, 896, 897, 898, 1828. Use of expressions objected to, 899, 3583. No debate on motion that progress be reported, 1124. Reflecting on honorable member by imputation, 3582. Interjections, 3588, 3590. Attempting to introduce new matter in personal explanation, 3603.

Tattersall Consultations - Payments to estate of late George Adams and New Zealand Government, (qn.) 3115. Pub­lication of balance-sheet, (qn.) 3115. Unclaimed prize moneys, (qn.) 3190. Payments to trustees, (qn.) 3318. Services of trustees, ( qn.) 3658.

Tattooing-Prosecutions under Police Offences Act, ( qn.) 2736.

Taxation-Commonwealth Pay-roll Tax-Payments

by Victoria, (qn.) 387, 2913. Validity, 402, 744, 2914.

Commonwealth Petrol and Diesel Oil Tax-Amount, (qn.) 841. Collections in Victoria, (qn.) 841. Finance for road works, (qn.) 841. Proportions returned to States, (qn.) 3392.

Land Tax-Exemptions, 852, (qn.) 3316. Incidence, 882, 942. Ass~ssments, (qn.) 3316. Revenue, (qn.) 3316. Pay­ments to municipalities, (qn.) 3316.

Taxation-con tinued. Probate Duty-Amending legislation, 726.

Revenue, 726, 942.

Stamp Duty-Exemption of river im­provement trusts, (qn.) 389. Incidence, 877. Definition of "charity" organiza­tions, 2897. Challenge in High Court by hire-purchase companies, (qn.) 3659. Revenue, (qn.) 3659.

State Taxation-Comparison with other States, 693. Incidence, 724, 872, 876. Analysis of, 942.

Uniform Taxation-Restoration of tax­ing powers to States, (qn.) 316, 327, 402, 419. Reimbursements to Victoria, 335, 711, 742, 876, 878. Reimburse­ments formula, 742, 870, 876. Sugges­ted abolition, 872.

Taylor, Mr. A. W. (Balwyn). Budget for Year 1963-64, 908. Committee of Public Accounts-Reports

presented: Overseas Visits by Depart­mental officers, 2874; Portland Harbor Trust, 3663.

Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 3043.

Country Roads Board-Condition of Princes Highway in East Gippsland. 911.

Government Departments and Instru­mentalities-Handling of Government contracts, 910. Financial responsi­bility, 912.

Motor Boating Act-Enforcement, 909.

Personal Explanation - Press report, 3023.

Ports and Harbors Branch-Need for additional boats, 909. Suggested rescue service, 909.

Teachers Tribunal-Claims for salaries and conditions: Procedure, (qn.) 178. Pay­ment of increased salaries, 219.

Teaching Service Act-Suggested amend­ment, (qn.) 1669, 1754.

Teaching Service (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 3684; second reading, 3685, 3899; remaining stages, 3900.

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Television and Radio-Servicing of sets, 322, 680, 690, 930. Hire-purchase agreements, 929. Investigation of alleged racketeering, (qn.) 963. Sug­gested registration of firms, (qn.) 963. Suggested licensing of television re­pairmen, 1715, 1717.

Testro Brothers-Directors, 408. Report, 1820, 2894.

Thalidomide-Number of babies affected, (qn.) 3394; Government assistance, (qn.) 3394.

Titles Office.-Decentralization of, (qn.) 3194. Typing pool at Mo rwell , (qn.) 3194.

Tobacco. (See "Marketing of Primary products (Tobacco Leaf) Bill.")

Tobacco Sellers (Amendment) Bill-Intro­duction and first reading, 116; second reading, 222, 1798; Committee, 1801, resolution fixing fees, 1801; third read­ing, 180l.

Totalizator Agency Board-Yearly profits and distribution, (qn.) 99. Staff, (qn.) 99. Location of agencies, (qn.) 99; control of, (qn.) 99. Administration cos t, ( qn.) 99. Financial surpluses, (qn.) 99. Total receipts and payments to State, (qn.) 99, (qn.) 2873. Antici­pated revenue, (qn.) 525. Contri­butions of race clubs, (qn.) 1417.

Tourist (Amendment) Bill-Appropriation resolution, 1821; introduction and first reading, 1821; second reading, 1887, 2296; remaining stages, 2296.

Tourist Development Authority-Develop­ment: In East Gippsland, 398; of Mount Buller, 435; of snowlands, 728; at Mount Hotham, 729.

Tourist Development from motor boat (qn.) 524.

Fund - Receipts registration fees,

Town and Country Planning Board -Geelong ring road, 3578, 3593.

Trading Stamps Schemes-Promotion, (qn.) 324l. (See also "Goods (Trading Stamps) Bill.")

Traditional Permanent Building Society­Notice of sale in newspaper advertise­ment, (qn.) 3658.

Traffic Commission-Safety measures for school children and pedestrians, 358. Pedestrian crossing in Spring-street outside Parliament House, 991, 992,

Traffic Commission-continued.

1777, 3235. Traffic survey, 889. Traffic problems in metropolitan area, 2787. Congestion in Sydney-road, Brunswick, 2787. Provision of warn­ing lights for road works, 360l.

Traffic Regulation-Road accidents: Number of persons killed and injured, (qn.) 103; on Hume Highway, 2933. Education of public, 436. Roundabout at Glenhuntly· road and Brighton-road intersection, (qn.) 4144.

Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3873; second reading, 4024, 4168; remaining stages, 4170.

Transfer of Land (Service Agreements) Bill -Introduction and first reading, 3089; second reading, 3138, 3255; remaining stages, 3256.

Transport-Government policy, 725.

Transport by Road and Water-Common­wealth grants, (qn.) 3242; works under. taken, (qn.) 3322, (qn.) 3499.

Transport RegUlation (Amendment) Bill­Introduction and first reading, 390; second reading, 569, 799; remaining stages, 799.

Transport Regulation Board-Permit for transport of farm machinery, 33l. Acquisition of land in Carlton by Housing Commission, (qn.) 665. Exist­ing site, (qn.) 119l. Site for new offices, (qn.) 1191, (qn.) 1876. New buildings, (qn.) 119l. Suggested amal­gamation with Motor Registration Branch, (qn.) 1669; request for files, (qn.) 1876. Carriage of passengers to Pincini camp, North Mirboo, 1754. Transport of house lots of timber, 2053. Declared decentralized industries, (qn.) 3197; applications for use of motor vehicles, (qn.) 3197. Training of taxi drivers, 3235, 3236.

Trewin, Mr. T. C. (Benalla).

Budget for Year 1963-64, 94l.

Country Fire Authority-Need for inquiry, 943.

Dandenong Valley Authority Bill, 1709, 1714, 1715.

Education Department-Physical educa­tion teachers, 1783.

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Trewin, Mr. T. C.-continued. Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2926. Forests Commission-Sleepers for Rail­

way Department, 3400. Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 3058. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

2950. Land (Surrender by Trustees) Bill, 2633. Land Tax-Incidence, 942. Litter Bill, 3346. Marketing of Primary Products (Tobacco

Leaf) Bill, 2769, 2771. Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill,

4043,4044. Motor Vehicles-Increase in horse-power,

436. Newmarket Sale-yards-Stock bridge, 437. Petrol-Suggested equalized price, 437. Police Department - Rebuilding and

staffing of Bonnie Doon police station, 436. Need for police station at Mount Buller, 3931.

Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3915, 3919. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2640. Probate Duty-Increase in revenue, 942. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1122. Railway Department-Transport of stock,

437. Intra-state travel on Spirit of Progress, 2793. Transport of wheat harvest, 2926. Derailments on Mel­bourne-Albury line, 3233. Cost and supply of sleepers, 3396.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1449. Royal Agricultural Society-Development

of stud stock, 437. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 4045, 4148, 4155, 4156. Shire of Myrtleford - Extension of

boundaries, 1418. Soil Conservation Authority-Activities,

434. State Electricity Commission-New con­

nexions, 943. Cost of Glenburn elec­tricity extension, 1070.

State Forest Loan Application Bill, 615. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Water conservation programme, 436.

Supply, 434. Taxation-Analysis of State taxation, 942. Tourist Development Authority-Develop-

ment of Mount Buller as tourist resort, 435.

Traffic Regulation-Education of public, 436.

Trewin, Mr. T. C.--continued. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 795. Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill, 2956.

Trotting Control Board-Use of manual totalizator, (qn.) 1874. Revenue, (qn.) 1874. Attendances at trotting meetings, (qn.) 1874. Investments, (qn.) 1874.

Trustee (Charitable Trusts) Bill-Introduc­tion and first reading, 3245.

Trustee Companies (The Perpetual Executors and Trustees Association of Australia Limited) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 115; second reading, 223; declared a private Bill, 783; motion that Bill be treated as a public Bill, except as to fees, agreed to, 783; second reading continued, 783; remaining stages, 784.

Tullamarine Airport-Proposed freeway, ( qn.) 1417. Capital cost of rail link, (qn.) 3397.

Turnbull, Mr. Campbell (Brunswick West). Acquisition of Land-Rights of citizens,

1685. Alcoholism-Incidence, 852. Appeal Costs Fund Bill, 3264, 3881. Building Industry-Bonding of con-

tractors, 851. Budget for Year 1963-64, 851, 858. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decen­

tralized Industries) Bill, 1909, 1910. Commonwealth Aid Roads Conference,

3517. Companies Act-Administration, 414.

Losses of companies, 414, 853. Interim report on Reid Murray group, 2898.

Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill, 3027, 3050.

Co-operation (Amendment) Bill, 2951. Crime-Incidence, 412, 416. Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob-

jected to, 4180. Drugs-Suggested price control, 853. Education-Standard of English, 855. Education Department-Suggested estab-

lishment of high school at West Bruns­wick, 384. Assembly halls, 855. Pupil­teacher ratio, 855.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2898. Evidence (Affidavits) Bill, 1809. Firearms (Interstate Transactions) Bill,

3261. Gaols (Visiting Justices) Bill, 3149.

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Turnbull, Mr. Campbell-continued.

Housing-Suggested establishment of advisory bureau, 851.

Housing Commission-Sale of land in Broadmeadows, 3678.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1922, 1926.

Judges' Pensions Bill, 2439. Justices (Adjourned Proceedings) Bill,

1810. Land Tax-Exemptions, 852. Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2563,

2575, 2579, 2580, 3025. Law Courts-Cases awaiting hearing, 184,

413,853. Legal Aid (Amendment) Bill, 1224. Licensing Act-Hours of drinking, 413. Litter Bill, 3362. Motor Car Bill, 1495. Mount Eliza Service Reservoir-Compen­

sation and reimbursement of legal ex­penses and fees to landowners, 3216.

Obscene Publications, 3429. Parklands-Alienation, 412. Personal Explanation - Statement in

debate, 859. Points of Order-Relevancy of remarks,

548, 1684, 2013, 3878, 3879. Police Department-Ratio of policemen to

population, 412. Police youth club system, 416.

Police Offences (Amendment) Bill, 2369. Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3915, 3919. Police Offences (Further Amendment)

Bill, 2641. Public Officers Salaries and Allowances

Bill, 1830. Public Service (Amendment) Bill, 4179. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 1556,

2200, 2207, 2217, 2218. Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill,

The, 1804. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2026. Stamps (Amendment) Bill, 1346, 1347. Stamps (Exemptions) Bill, 3691. Superannuation Bill, 2454. Supply, 412. Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges)

Bill, 4030. Supreme Court (Vexatious Litigants) Bill,

1812. Taxation-Suggested capital gains tax,

852. Transfer of Land (Restrictive Covenants)

Bill, 4168. 4567/64.-5

Turnbull, Mr. Campbell-continued.

University Education-Quota system, 417. Demand for graduates, 856. Students fees, 859.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill, 785.

Wills (Formal Validity) Bill, 3501. Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisi­

tion of Land) Bill, 3875.

Turnbull, Mr. K. H. (Kara Kara). Agricultural Education (Cadetships) Bill,

2176. Agriculture, Department of-Foot-rot in

sheep, 3574, 3661. Tractor testing station at Werribee, 3574.

Albert Park Reserve-Removal of Defence Department buildings, 3392.

Balmoral Geelong and Balwyn Lands Exchange Bill, 3089, 3132.

Dairying Industry-Butter production and stocks, 3116.

Dorodong Land Settlement-Reclassifica­tion, 1668. Soil tests, 1668. Experi­mental plots, 1668.

Farm Produce Agents Act-Breaches at Queen Victoria Market, 3116. Policing of Act, 3116.

Fern Tree Gully Estate-Misrepresentation in advertising brochure, 3615.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1370, 1550, 1819.

Forests Commission-Sleepers for RaiI~

way Department, 3400. Heyfield and Jamieson bush fires, 3753, 3990. Fire restrictions on days of acute fire danger, 3753.

Fruit Fly Control-Regulations, 663. Pro­secutions and convictions, 663.

Grain Elevators Board-Bulk handling of barley, 1420.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill, 115, 319.

Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2), 3090, 3148.

Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 2086, 2177.

Land (Amendment) Bill, 967, 1020. Lands Department-Residences for in­

spectors, 722. Tostaree pilot farm, 3751. Land Settlement-Road construction and

bore costs on French Island, 3115. Margarine-Quota system, 3117. Inter­

state production and trade, 3117. Maryborough Free Library and Literary

Institute Bill, 3245.

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Turnbull, Mr. K. H.-continued. Milk and Dairy Supervision Act-Pro·

clamation of milk districts, 1782. Areas under municipal control, 1876, 2009. Licence fees, 1876.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 2321. North-West Mallee Settlement Areas Act

-Compensation payments, 3322. Oil Companies-Crown leases at Newport

and Spotswood, 4140. Police Department-Condition of toilet

facilities at police stations, 2322. Revocation and Excision of Crown

Reservations Bill, 3089, 3091. Rural Finance and Settlement Commis­

sion-Allocation of holdings, 3128. Applicants for land settlement, 3128.

Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment) Bill, 4044, 4045, 4155, 4156, 4164.

Stock Medicines (Amendment) Bill, 450, 578.

Superphosphate-Supplies and delivery, 3393.

Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­ment) Bill, 1744, 1795, 2307, 3056.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Fmancial) Bill, 590, 591.

Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Stock slaughtered, 1190.

Wheat Industry-Handling charges, 721. Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill, 2319.

U. Underseas Mineral Resources Bill-Re­

ceived from Council and first reading, 2648; second reading, 2673, 3064; re­maining stages, 3065.

Underwater Diving and Spear Fishing­Suggested supervision and training, 2881.

Uniform Taxation. (See " Taxation-Uniform Taxation.")

Universities-1963-64 Budget statement, 191. Quota system, 346, 417, 905. Pro­posed university college at Ballarat, (qn.) 587, 706, 857, 860. Costs of university education, 687, 858. Demand for graduates, 856. Students' fees, 859. Enrolments, 879. Places for Asian students, 880. Failure rate, 904. Popu­lation, 904. Student-staff ratio, 905. Standards, 905. Use of Commonwealth buildings at Maribyrnong for college, 956. Location of third university, 3707, 3708, (qns.) 3749, 3986, 4138; corres­pondence, (qn.) 3987. Establishment of

Universities.-continued. university colleges, (qn.) 3748. Mem­bers of Australian Universities Com· mISSIon, (qn.) 3987; members of Commission's Committee on Future of Tertiary Education, (qn.) 3987. (See also "Monash University.")

University (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 2010; second reading, 2184, 2368; remaining stages, 2369.

University (Faculties) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3685; second reading, 3688, 3899; remaining stages, 3899.

University of Melbourne-Inquiry into teachers' colleges, (qn.) 311. Exten· sions, ( qn.) 664. Acquisition of land, (qn.) 664. Government contribution, 859. Demand for graduates from faculty of law, 860. Land reserved, (qn.) 3749.

Ustashi-Activities in Victoria, 3586, 3602.

V. Valuation of Land Act-Municipal and

contract valuers: Salaries and pay­ments, (qn.) 3662.

Valuer· General-Policy on subdivisional land values, (qn.) 182.

Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amendment) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 1744; second reading, 1795, 2296; Com­mittee and remaining stages, 2307. Council amendment dealt with, 3056.

Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial) Bill-Appropriation resolution, 590; introduction and first reading, 590; second reading, 591, 785, 790; remaining stages, 799.

Victorian Football League-Occupancy of grounds and distribution of receipts, ( qn.) 2872. Anzac Day fixtures, (qn.) 3400.

Victorian Inland Meat Authority-Activities, 349. Sheep, lambs and cattle slaughtered, (qn.) 1189. Establishment of inland killing works, (qn.) 3115. Recommendation of Commission of Public Health, (qn.) 3189.

Victorian Nursing Council-Standards of nurse education, (qn.) 1416. Trained nurses for future needs, (qn.) 1416.

Victorian Symphony Orchestra, 2382, 2910.

Victoria Promotion Committee-Expendi­ture, 2783.

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W. Walter and Eliza Hall Institute-Special

grant, 194.

Water Bill-Introduction and first reading, 591; second reading, 773, 1555; Com~ mittee, 1564; remaining stages, 1566. Council amendment dealt with, 2103.

Water Resources of Victoria - Collection and analysis of water from Koo-Wee­Rup basin, (qn.) 3194.

Water Supply Loan Application Bill­Appropriation resolution, 390; introduc­tion and first reading, 390; second read­ing, 566, 1195; Committee and remain~ ing stages, 1223.

Ways and Means, Committee of-Appointed, 56. Resolutions agreed to, 450, 1779, 2928, 3603.

Weedicides and Pesticides-Effect on fish and wildlife: Article in Ballarat Courier, (qn.) 1415.

Wheat Industry-Handling charges, (qn.) 721. (See also " Grain Elevators Board," "Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill" and "Grain Elevators (Borrowing Powers) Bill (No.2) .")

Wheat Industry Stabilization Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 2285; second reading, 2319, 2955; remaining stages, 2960.

Wheeler, Mr. K. H. (Essendon).

~doption of Children Bill, 4172, 4173. Coburg City Council-Construction of

swimming pool, 354. Provision of pre­school kindergarten, 355.

Debate-Withdrawal of statement ob­jected to, 3676.

Education Department-Free milk scheme, 2915.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2787, 2788, 2914, 2915, 2919.

Fertilizers (Amendment) Bill, 1818. Health (Child Minding) Bill, 3885. Housing Commission-Sale of land in

Broadmeadows, 3675, 3678. Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1919. Juvenile Delinquency - Incidence in

Essendon electorate, 355. Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2570. Litter Bill, 3347, 3754. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1329.

Wheeler, Mr. K. H.--continued.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Route of freeway through Strathmore, 2788. Construction of culvert in Pascoe Vale, 2914.

Milk Board (Amendment) Bill, 3063. Motor Car Driving Instructors-Tests,

4145. Training, 4145. Municipalities-Collection of household

garbage, 2919. Pascoe Vale RS.L. and Citizens' Youth

Club-Building site, 807. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1116. Railway Loan Application Bill, 1450. Social Problems-Conditions in Fitzroy

and elsewhere, 543, 544. Supply, 353. Traffic Commission - Congestion in

Sydney-road, 2787. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 792. Victorian Football League - Ground

occupancy, 2872. Distribution of receipts, 2872.

Whiting, Mr. M. S. (Mildura). Agriculture, Department of - Mallee

Research Station, 922. Admittance to agricultural colleges, 922. Mildura Horticultural Research Station, 922.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 922. Co-operative Housing Societies (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2764. Decentralization-Need to improve condi­

tions in country areas, 442. Rail freight concessions, 2055.

Education Department-Septic tank systems in teachers' residences, 443. Need for teachers' hostel at Ouyen, 443. Secondary education for residents of smaller country towns, 443. Shortage of primary teachers, 3988. Appointment of typists, 3988.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2927. Farm Produce Merchants and Commission

Agents Bill, 3783. Governor-Visits to country areas,· 2055. Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply,

2055. Grain Elevators Board-Bulk handling of

barley, 1420. Health, Department of - Compulsory

chest X-rays in Mildura area, 923. Compulsory X-rays, 923.

Law Department-Robinvale court-house, 2055.

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Whiting, Mr. M. S.-continued. Menindee Lakes Storage-Use in dry

years pending construction of Chowilla reservoir, 2055.

Mental Health Authority-Progress of work, 443. Alterations to former Royal Children's Hospital building, 444.

National Parks Bill, 4039. North-West Mallee Settlement Areas Act

----Compensation payments, 3322. Police Department-Motor vehicles, 3239. Railway Department-Profits and losses

on country and suburban lines, 2175. Profit and loss on goods traffic, 2434. Reopening of Meringur to Morkalla line, 2055. Freight concessions on cartage of wool, 2056. Freight rates for petrol, 2733. Melbourne--Mildura goods traffic, 2733. Transport of wheat harvest, 2927. Goods section account­ing procedure, 3873.

Raising of School Leaving Age (Conse­quential Amendments) Bill, 2955.

Redcliffs Drainage System-Duplication, 1878.

River Murray Waters Bill, 2098. River Murray Waters (Menindee Lakes

Storage) Bill, 2037. Sheep Owners Protection (Amendment)

Bill, 4152. Social Welfare Services-Reception centre

at Mildura, 2056. Stamps (Exemptions) Bill, 3691. State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­

sion-Allocation of water from River Murray system, 386. Water distribution policy, 441. Diversion licences and increased water allocation in irrigation districts, 3989.

Superphosphate-Availability of supplies, 3933.

Supply, 441. Titles Office-Use of typists at Morwell,

3194. Decentralization of office, 3194. Vegetation and Vine Diseases (Amend­

ment) Bill, 2305. Water Supply Loan Application Bill, 1207.

Wilcox, Mr. V. F. (Camberwell).

Budget for Year 1963--64, 859. Capital Punishment, 410. Commercial Goods Vehicles (Decen­

tralized Industries) Bill, 1338. Commonwealth Aid Roads Agreement,

4288.

Wilcox, Mr. V. F.-continued. Communications-Loss of art of personal

communications, 860. Companies-Report on Reid Murray

group, 2906. Companies (Public Borrowings) Bill,3045. Crime-Incidence, 410. Case of Robert

Peter Tait, 410. Sexual offences against teenage girls, 411.

Education Department - Closing of Ballarat Teachers' Training College, 860.

Electoral-Preferential voting, 2285. Estimates for Year 1963--64, 2781, 2906. Justices (Jurisdiction) Bill, 2669. Housing Commission-Sale of land in

Broadmeadows, 3681, 3682. Land Tax (Rates and Appeals) Bill, 2578. Legislative Assembly-Suspension of sit­

ting for dinner, 2781. Monash University----Chair and faculty of

law, 384, 409. Motor Car Bill, 1478. Obscene Publications, 3425. Overseas Investment in Australia, 861. Points of Order-Statements in debate,

2667, 4163. Speaking during division, 4182.

Public Officers Salaries and Allowances Bill, 1826, 1830.

Questions on Notice-Replies, 409. River Murray Waters Bill, 2100. Shell Company of Australia Limited Bill,

The, 1806. Speaker, The-Disagreement with ruling,

2017. Sate Insurance Offices-Scope of opera­

tions, 408. Supply, 408. Supreme Court (Qualification of Judges)

Bill, 4031. Testro Brothers, 408. University Education-Proposed Ballarat

college, 860. University of Melbourne-Government

contribution, 859. Faculty of law graduates, 860.

Wilkes, Mr. F. N. (Northcote).

Air Pollution-Emissions from brick in­dustry at Northcote, 1772.

Benevolent Societies-Affiliation with Victorian Association of Benevolent Societies, 2175. Subsidies and grants, 2175.

Budget for Year 1963--64, 760.

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Wilkes, Mr. F. N.-continued. Clean Air-Meetings and recommenda­

tions of Clean Air Committee, 1071, 1770. Expenditure by Clean Air Sec­tion, 1071. Prosecution powers, 1768. Functions of Clean Air Committee, 1769.

Commonwealth Aid Roads Conference, 4284.

Companies Act-Losses of companies, 761.

Country Roads Board-Responsibility for highways radiating from the metropolis, 430.

Education Department-School com-mittees and advisory councils: Raising of money, 2435; Government subsidies, 2435. Expenditure on school works and buildings, 2435. Northcote High School: Students and teachers, 3498; staff turnover, 3498; amenities, 3498.

Estate Agents Act-Licences issued, 385. Estate Agents (Amendment) Act-Pro­

mulgation, 3569. Protection of pur­chasers from malpractices, 3569.

Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 4278. Estate Agents Committee-Rules of pro­

fessional conduct, 2436, 3399. Estate Agents (Further Amendment) Bill,

391. Estimates-Final Supplementary Esti­

mates for 1962-63, 1768. Gas and Fuel Corporation-Installation

charge, 964. Government Departments and Instru­

mentalities-Representations of mem­bers, 429. Industrial relations, 761. Use of privately-owned buildings, 1667. Employees, 3124.

Health (Amendment) Bill, 4192, 4193. Hospitals, Public-Statistics re beds,

patients, medical and nursing staffs, 518. Payments to and training of nurses, 518.

Housing Commission-Valuers employed and duties, 3573. Valuations, 3573.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1920. Karoon-Grounding, 385. Labour and Industry (Amendment) Bill,

2115. Land Tax-Assessments, 3316. Revenue,

3316. Exemptions, 3316. Payments to municipalities, 3316.

Law Department-Committals for trial by courts of petty sessions, 2283.

Litter Bill, 3355, 3608.

Wilkes, Mr. F. N.-continued. Local Government Act-Insurance of

councillors, 3238. Local Government (Amendment) Bill,

1320, 1331, 1779. Marine Board of Victoria-Pilotage certi­

ficates, 386. Port Phillip Heads sea-lane, 386.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of Works-Extension of metropolitan water supply system, 427. Discharge of sewage into Yarra river, 427. Sewerage connexions, 428. Formula for re­imbursement to councils for use of municipal net annual valuations, 3193. Revision of water rates, 3193. Valuers employed and duties, 3575. Valuations, 3575.

Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board-Time-tables on Preston lines, 109. Accidents, 109, 2282. Stop-lights on trams, 109. Preston workshops, 109, 765. Relaying of tracks, 109. Financial results of operations, 433. Fares, 433. Answers to members' questions, 434. Advertisements on tram tickets, 765. Elimination of compulsory stops, 2282. Tram lines on dual highways, 3246. Carriage of prams and pushers, 3240.

Mental Health Institutions-Common­wealth grants, 4139, 4277. St. Nicholas's Hospital, 4277. Pension pay­ments, 4277.

Motor Car Bill, 1480. Motor Car (Indorsement of Licences) Bill,

4042. Municipalities-Additional responsibilities,

429. Loan liabilities, 429, 582, 670. Government assistance, 429, 661 670. Grants for public halls and libraries, 431. Raising of loan funds, 431, 661. Number of men employed by metro­politan councils, 582. Increased cost of road materials, 582. Valuations, 3193.

Obscene Publications, 3413. Police Department-Availability of Chief

Commissioner's report, 580, 768. Strength of Force, 665, 769, 3493. Utilization of motor vehicles, 665. Night watching services, 766. Mobile traffic section, 769. Incidence of crime, and strength of Force in Northcote area, 3238. Police cadets and reservists, 3493. Occupancy of old Dental Hos­pital, 3749.

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Wilkes, Mr. F. N.-continued. Police Offences (Animals) Bill, 3908, 3918. Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1085. Railway Department-Melbourne-Reser-

voir-Lalor-Epping-Whittlesea line, 108. Unmanned stations between Princes Bridge and Lalor, 108. Pedestrian crossings, 108. Rolling-stock used on Reservoir and Heidelberg lines, 431. Unmanned stations, 432, 433, 761, 763. Staff shortage, 432, 762. Damage by vandals, 432. Inspection holes in guards vans, 433. Fares, 433. Spencer-street station, 583, 662, 764. Salaries, 762. Condition of Merri station, 3663.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1231. Road Traffic (Infringements) Bill, 2201. Road Traffic Regulations-Bookings for

infringements, 665, 718. R.S.L. Widows and Widowed Mothers'

Trust Patriotic Fund Bill, 3500. State Electricity Commission--Connexion

charge, 964. Self-help scheme, 964. Charges to metropolitan consumers, 2281. Municipal electrical undertak­ings, 2281.

State Rivers and Water Supply Commis­sion-Valuers employed and duties, 3572. Valuations, 3572.

Statute Law Revision Bill, 2462. Supply, 427. Valuation of Land Act-Municipal and

contract valuers, 3662. Youth Organizations Assistance Fund­

Funds for distribution by Youth Advisory Council, 583.

Williamstown (Melbourne Harbor Trust) Land Bill-Introduction and first read­ing, 967; second reading, 1074, 1575; Committee, 1596; third reading, 1604.

Wills (Formal Validity) Bill-Introduction and first reading, 3401; second reading, 3438, 3501; remaining stages, 3501.

Wilton, Mr. J. T. (Broadmeadows).

Agriculture, Department of-Financial assistance for dried fruits growers, 940.

Athletic Clubs-Mixed betting licences granted, 587.

Balmoral Geelong and BalWYn Lands Ex­change Bill, 3256.

Boilers Inspection (Amendment) Bill, 986, 2308, 2311, 2312.

Wilton, Mr. J. T.--continued. Boilers Inspection Branch-Revenue and

expenditure for year 1962, 663. Pressure vessels registered, 663, 842.

Budget for Year 1963-64, 935. Department of Labour and Industry-In­

spection of steam boilers and air and gas receivers, 384.

Education Department-Repainting of secondary schools, 842. Construction of second and third stages of Broad­meadows Technical School, 935. Port­able class-rooms, 936. Chadstone High School, 936. Provision of canteens at new high schools, 936. Arthur's Creek primary school, 1545, 1550, 2284. In­struction of primary school teachers in cuisenaire method of teaching arith­metic, 2435. Scholarships in junior forms of secondary schools, 2889. Transport of scholars to Broadmeadows Technical School, 2892, 2940. Hadfield High School, 3151. Land for primary school at Dallas North, 3498.

Estimates for Year 1963-64, 2791, 2889, 2912, 2924.

Governor's Speech - Address-in-Reply, 2940.

Housing Commission--Open spaces in estates, 938. Sale of land in Broad­meadows, 1716, 3395, 3499, 3573, 3664. Broadmeadows estate: Report of Real Estate and Stock Agents Institute, 3396; advertising of lots, 3396. Availability for purchase, and sale prices of Glenroy homes, 3989, 3990.

Housing (Municipal Donations) Bill, 1916. Land (Amendment) Bill, 1344. Litter Bill, 3612. Melbourne and Metropolitan Board of

Works-Rezoning of land in Broad­meadows, 3662.

Members-Installation of clocks to time speeches, 941.

Metropolitan Fire Brigades Board-Pro­vision of fire protection services for Keilor, 938.

Motor Car Bill, 1489. Motor Vehicles--Commercial trailers

registered, 1190. Municipalities-Purchase of land for rec­

reational purposes, 938. Provision of fire protection services for Keilor, 938.

New Melbourne Cemetery, Fawkner­Area, 3660. Trustees, 3660. Beautifica­tion of area, 3660.

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Wilton, Mr. J. T.-continued.

Personal Explanation-Statement in debate, 4146.

Point of Order.-;.Statement in debate, 3677.

Police Department-Proposed station at Niddrie, 319, 937, 2791. Broadmeadows North police station, 966. Strength of Force, 937. Ratio of police to popula­tion, 937. Police station for North Fawkner, 1416.

Public Transport-Keilor services, 939. Facilities in Lancefield district, 1780, 2912.

Public Works Department-Arthur's Creek primary school, 1550. Oncost charges, 4144.

Public Works Loan Application Bill, 1101. Question on Notice-Reply, 4297. Railway Department-Upfield railway

station, 1190, 1421, 4144. Woodend level crossing, 2924. Construction of siding for Nabisco Pty. Ltd., 4144.

Railway Loan Application Bill, 1429. Raising of School Leaving Age (Conse­

quential Amendments) Bill, 2955. Supply, 3601. Traffic Commission-Provision of warning

lights on road works, 3601. Tullamarine Airport-Capital cost of rail

link, 3397. Vermin and Noxious Weeds (Financial)

Bill, 793.

Wiltshire, Mr. R. J. (Mulgrave). Estate Agents (Amendment) Bill, 4279. Grain Elevators (Bulk Barley) Bill, 3059. Portland Harbor Trust (Grain Terminal)

Bill, 2639.

Wodonga Sewerage Authority (Acquisition of Land) Bill-Received from Council and first reading, 3577; second reading, 3598, 3875; Committee and remaining stages, 3880.

Workers Compensation Act-Amounts paid in settlement of claims, (qn.) 2734.

Y.

Yarra Bend National Park-Condition of Collins bridge, 2472, 2474.

Yarra River-Pollution by sewage, (qn.) 313, 424, 427, 718, 719, 874, (qn.) 1192. Plans for widening and dredging, (qn.) 966. Reconstruction of sewage tunnel at Spotswood, (qn.) 966; agreements, (qn.) 3237. Passenger ship terminal, ( qn.) 966. Report on Lower Yarra crossing, (qn.) 3319.

Youth Organizations-Government grants, 2911. Suggested increased grants to Boy Scouts Association and Girl Guides Association, 2911.

Youth Organizations Assistance Fund­- Applications for assistance, (qn.) 583,

(qn.) 720, 723. Funds distributed by Youth Advisory Council, (qn.) 583, 723.

Yugoslav Migrants. (See" Ustashi.")

Z. Zoological Gardens - Master plan, 449.

Attendances and receipts, (qn.) 3570. Government grants, (qn.) 3570. Admis­sion charges, (qn.) 3570.

Zoos. (See "Police Offences (Animals) Bill.")

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