HEP-NT workshop SLAC - October 1999 Tony Johnson Tony Waite* (tonyj,[email protected])
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Transcript of HEP-NT workshop SLAC - October 1999 Tony Johnson Tony Waite* (tonyj,[email protected])
Code Development on NTCode Development on NTSome notes on experience gained in developing cross-platform Some notes on experience gained in developing cross-platform
(NT/Unix) HEP software for the Linear Collider Detector(NT/Unix) HEP software for the Linear Collider Detector
More of a Random Walk than a Formal Overview of Development ToolsMore of a Random Walk than a Formal Overview of Development Tools
HEP-NT workshopSLAC - October 1999
Tony JohnsonTony Waite*
(tonyj,[email protected])
* In absentia
NT Code DevelopmentNT Code Development
Topics– NT Code development tools for C++/Fortran/Java– Code development issues– Code management
• SourceSafe• CVS• DEC -
– Using NT as a data server– Conclusions
Windows NT Development ToolsWindows NT Development Tools
For windows only development, tools are excellent:– Visual C++/J++ (MS Java)/Compaq Fortran
• Excellent IDE allows development in all three languages
– Integrated editor, cross-language debugger– Integrated build tool (make clone)– Incremental linker (that works)– Integrated code management (visual
sourcesafe)– Object browser
– SLAC has site license for MS developer tools
C++ for cross platform developmentC++ for cross platform development Cross Platform C++ development has many problems
– Makefile for each platform• Need to build/debug on each platform• Versionitis
– External dependencies– Compiler flags
• Even egcs compiler has many system specific flags– Different methods for building DLL’s/C++ name mangling– Compiler bugs– Differing Levels of ANSI/STL Support – Architecture specific bugs
• Found bugs in both Visual C++ (5.0) and egcs compiler for intel.
C++ for cross-platform developmentC++ for cross-platform development
Certainly possible - Simulation package does work on both NT and Unix.
Large amount of time goes into testing/debugging on
different platforms.
Java for Cross Platform DevelopmentJava for Cross Platform Development
Have succeeded in writing entire reconstruction/analysis package in Java
Currently using Visual J++/Sourcesafe– All development currently being done on NT– JAR files built on NT and put on web server for
download by others.
Java code can be run– Standalone from command prompt/batch job– Inside Java Analysis Studio (JAS)
Java Analysis StudioJava Analysis Studio
Cross Platform Java GUI for data analysis
Java for cross-platform Graphics/GUIJava for cross-platform Graphics/GUI
Java ExperienceJava Experience
Write Once Run Anywhere– Really works (for applications, if not applets).– Develop on NT, runs without changes elsewhere
Developers have been able to learn language and tools and get up-to-speed fast
Performance - Adequate, getting better all the time
Need to abandon Visual J++, Source SafeCluster Finding
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CVS for cross platform developmentCVS for cross platform development
CVS is available for NT as well as Unix
NT tools include:– line mode tools– WinCVS
• Rather confusing GUI– jCVS
• Cross platform CVS GUI written in Java• Doesn’t support ssh access to remote repository?
Several tools available for web based access to code– CVSWeb - perl script– jCVS servlet - works well on NT
jCVS ClientjCVS Client
jCVS ServletjCVS Servlet
CVS security issuesCVS security issues
Supports distributed access to code repository– bewildering array of access methods/security
issues• rsh - no longer allowed at SLAC• pserver -
– needs custom server,– passes weakly encrypted passwords over
network• ssh
– doesn’t work with all CVS clients– complex to set up client– no AFS token support
CVS CVS vs.vs. Sourcesafe Sourcesafe
SourceSafe CVSGetting started Install + Play Read the manual
Integration intoVisual Studio
Yes No
Cross platform No YesRemote Access Not really Yes
Laptop Friendly Not really Yes
Is CVS sufficient for a physics collaboration?Is CVS sufficient for a physics collaboration? If using Java - probably
If using C++, not really, – Need to be able to switch between configurations
easily• Logical names where are you?
– Location of external dependencies– Would like to use pre-built dll’s where possible.– Want to isolate users from system dependencies
as far as possible.– Want to avoid “nightly builds”
Need to layer tool on top of CVS, make– LCD Solution:
• Development Environment Controller (DEC)
Development Environment ControllerDevelopment Environment Controller
Written for LCD by Tony Waite, could be used by others– Hides details of file organization from user
• User deals with subsystems, Gismo, Recon, etc.
• Easy to switch between PROD,DEV,Test version of each subsystem
• User Profiles allow saving/restoring environment.
– Hides machine dependencies of BUILD operation• Automatically archives CVS version numbers
for production BUILD’s
Running a (Java) Data Server on NTRunning a (Java) Data Server on NT
Use NT Service Manager to Run Data Server– Microsoft Java has built-in support for running as
NT server• Application can be distributed as a single .exe
which installs itself as an NT service– Other Java implementations can be run as an NT
service with 3rd party add-ons (or roll your own).
Error logging using NT event log/viewer
Desktop Client
Network Data Server DIM
Remote Data
NT Service - Pros and ConsNT Service - Pros and Cons Pros
– Auto start on reboot– Runs in background– Use service manager to start/stop service
Real life problems– Does not auto restart
• Application can unexpectedly pop up dialog box!– Remote control difficult
• Remote Server Manager only distributed with NT server (or with NT resource kit).
• Requires port 137/138 access (blocked at SLAC firewall) or VPN/PPTP
Net Meeting for Remote ControlNet Meeting for Remote Control
Netmeeting 3.0 has “Remote Desktop Feature”– If run on server allows remote access to server
desktop from any NT/95/98 machine.– Free!
Security– Claims to use encrypted communication channel– Requires NT login to access remote desktop– Security dubious
Potentially very useful, perhaps worth considering
NT Disk Cache ProblemNT Disk Cache Problem
Problem with reading large datasets– NT will grow disk cache until it takes 99.5% of physical memory,
regardless of who/what else requires memory.– Reading large datasets can result in NT totally grinding to a halt.– No system parameter to limit disk cache size
Workarounds– If you have access to call to C open statement you can turn off
disk caching (big if)– Can run program which constantly flushes disk cache
Conclusion– NT not ready for primetime data server applications– Windows 2000 better?
Things I didn’t talk aboutThings I didn’t talk about
Because I don’t know anything about them– Sniff+ - Cross platform IDE
• http://www.takefive.com/– Cross platform GUI development with C++
• QT Widgets– http://www.troll.no/
– Libtool/configure• NT ports exist but not for non-experts
– cygwin• Unix environment under NT
ConclusionsConclusions
Tools for code development under NT only are great– Development tools probably better than Unix
Cross platform development– In C++ is a lot of extra work– Java can make things much easier, especially for:
• GUI applications• Client/Server applications
NT for HEP batch/server side data processing– No obvious advantage over Unix/Linux– Tools and OS not as well suited to task as Unix
NT still maintains lead as desktop machine– Unix seems to be catching up fast (gnome, * office)