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Dbuu`jd @u

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@J UN@V VBFU@CJ

7* E`vfrvv`cj Ub~u Ocebh

=* Fcjubju

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lru`hb3Hbuv hcci gu vcob cl unb g}drobjuv* Ogjp f}`u`fv cl vcf`gh ob/

e`g g}drb ungu unbp g}b `j|gv`|b gje m}bgfn {b}vcjgh {}`|gfp* Unbp

fhg`o ungu vcf`gh obe`g vf}bbj`jd ngv hbe uc gj rj{}bfbebjube `j|g/

v`cj cl {b}vcjgh {}`|gfp9 gj `j|gv`cjtb g}b jcu vc{n`vu`fgube uc }b{bh*

Tn`hb `u `v u}rb ungu `jlc}ogu`cj gmcru rv `j unb {rmh`f ecog`j ngv `j/

f}bgvbe e}gogu`fghhp `j }bfbju pbg}v( tb ng|b bwrghhp b|ch|be gu gj

b~{cjbju`gh }gub `j cr} `jur`u`|b rjeb}vugje`jd cl vcf`gh obe`g gje nct

uc vf}bbj `u cr}vbh|bv `j c}eb} uc {}cabfu gj `ogdb uc unb cruv`eb tc}he*

@jebbe( vcf`gh obe`g g}b fcjvugjuhp fngjd`jd `j c}eb} uc obbu cr} eb/

ogjev lc} fnc`fb gje fcju}ch* Ugib Dccdhb lc} b~go{hb* @u `ju}cerfbe

g vpvubo cl f`}fhbv `j c}eb} uc ghhct rvb}v uc {`fi gje fnccvb vr`ugmhb

`jlc}ogu`cj lc} |g}`crv g}bjgv* Gjcunb} g}drobju gdg`jvu vcf`gh obe`g

`j unb tc}i{hgfb `v ungu( `jvubge clogi`jd rv oc}b blf`bju( unbp t`hh

hbge ucrv tgvu`jd oc}b u`ob fnguu`jd gje m}ctv`jd unb tbm* @j lgfu(

|g}`crv vure`bv ng|b vnctj ungu `jubd}gu`jd vcf`gh obe`g `juc unb

tc}i{hgfb ecbv jcu ng|b g jbdgu`|b bllbfu cj {}cerfu`|`up* @jvubge(unbp {}c|`eb rv t`un unb obgjv uc `jfc}{c}gub cr} {b}vcjgh gje {}clbv/

v`cjgh h`|bv `juc cjb vbgohbvv tnchb* Uc fcjfhreb( `u g{{bg}v unguvc/

f`gh obe`g g}b jcu cjhpcj unb`} tgp `j uc unb tc}i{hgfb( mru ghvcvbu uc

}b|chru`cj`qb cr} tc}i`jd h`|bv lc} unb mbuub}*

= Fcjubju

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Lrjfu`cj L}go`jd Bhbobju

Vrmabfu Vugubobju Jcmcep t`hh ebjp ungu*** g lgfu cl oceb}j h`lb gje

ocvu ebj`ubhp nb}b uc vugp*

]nbuc}`fgh Wrbvu`cj Mru g}b unbp g {cv`u`|b lgfuc} j unb tc}i{hgfb3

G}drobju Hbgeb} *** c{`j`cjv g}b e`|`ebe cj un`v vvrb ***

Fcju}ge`fuc}p Vugubobju *** Nctb|b}( ***

Ebug`h .b~go{hb) @j {g}u`frhg}(

]nbuc}`fgh Wrbvu`cj Gje tnp tcrheju unbp3

[cv u cj Vugubobju .Vroog}p cl g}drobjuv) Vcf`gh obe`g }b{}bvbju unb |b}p hgubvu `j

fcoorj`fgu`cj ucchv fcom`j`jd jbutc}i`jd(og}ibu`jd gje fcoob}f`gh c{{c}urj`u`bv `j cjb

vbgohbvv {hgulc}o ungu fgj bllbfu`|bhp frugf}cvv unb tc}i#{}`|gub/h`lb e`|`eb*

]nbuc}`fgh Wrbvu`cj @v }bv`vugjfb lru`hb3

G}drobju Hbgeb} Hbuv hcci gu vcob cl unb g}drobjuv*

G}drobju 7 Ogjp f}`u`fv cl vcf`gh obe`g g}drb ungu ***

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) Unbp fhg`o ungu ***

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) 9 gj `j|gv`cj ***

Fcrjub}g}drobju 7 Tn`hb u v u}rb ungu ***

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) @jebbe( ***

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) Ugib *** lc} b~go{hb

G}drobju = Gjcunb} g}drobju gdg`jvu vcf`gh obe`g j unbtc}i{hgfb `v ungu ***

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) @jvubge cl ***( unbp t`hh hbge uc ***

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) @jvubge cl ***( unbp t`hh hbge uc ***

Fcrjub}g}drobju = @j lgfu( |g}`crv vure`bv ng|b vnctj ungu

Ebug`h .vr{{c}u) @jvubge(

]bvugubobju Uc fcjfhreb( `u g{{bg}v ungu ***

Ebug`h .b~go{hb) jcu cjhp *** ( mru ghvc ***

5 Mr`he`jd cj Mgv`fv

Hbuv jct vr}|bp vcob fcoocj vu}gubd`bv j e`vfrvv`cj t}`u`jd* Un`v dr`eb fgjjcu

mb b~ngrvu`|b* @u `v g vub{{`jd vucjb uc d}bgub} ebug`h gje( nc{blrhhp( d}bgub} un`jdv*

Uc ungu bje @ ng|b u}`be uc h`o`u un`v b~b}f`vb* Unb lchhct`jd fcjvu`urub g h`o`ube vb/

hbfu`cj cl rvblrh e`vfrvv`cj c{u`cjv( fcjvu`uru`jd }bgh lc}orhgu`cjv pcr fgj mr`he

r{cj `j pcr} ctj tc}i* Unbvb jbbe uc mb e`vfrvvbe `j fhgvv gje eb|bhc{be `j }bhg/

u`cj uc vrmabfu oguub}* Mru( `j unb obgju`ob( hcci un}crdn gje {`fi gje fnccvb gv

mbuv pcr} {r}{cvb*

Fcoocj Ijcthbedb

Gv b|b}pcjb ijctv ***

@u v dbjb}ghhp gffb{ube ungu ***

Unb}b fgj mb jc ecrmu ungu ***

@u `v g lgfu ungu ***

Jcmcep t`hh ebjp ungu ***

B|b}pcjb ijctv ungu ***

]blb}}`jd uc Vure`bv#]bvbg}fn#[bc{hb

Vb|b}gh vure`bv ng|b mbbj fg}}`be cru j un`v g}bg *** .Acjbv( =;;69 Ingh`e( =;;0)

G jromb} cl vure`bv ng|b lcrje ungu *** .Vo`un bu gh*(=;;4 ***)

]bfbju b|`ebjfb vrddbvuv ungu ***

Gffc}e`jd uc M`hh Dgubv( h`lbhcjd hbg}j`jd v v jct gj gffb{ube lgfu*

Vcob vf`bju`vuv#b~{b}uv#f}`u`fv#{}c{cjbjuv#c{{cjbjuv#fcoobjuguc}v vgp#g}drb#fcjubje#fhg`o ungu

*** cunb}v {ru lc}tg}e unb ebg ungu ***

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N`vuc}`fgh Fcjub~u

Cjb cl unb ocvu v`dj`fgju fr}}bju e`vfrvv`cjv j un`v g}bg v ******

@u v mbfco`jd jf}bgv`jdhp e`lfrhu uc djc}b unb *****

^ v gj `o{c}ugju fco{cjbju j unb fh`ogub vpvubo( gje {hgpv g ibp }chb j P*

@j unb jbt dhcmgh bfcjcop( ngv mbfcob g fbju}gh vvrb lc} ******

@j unb n`vuc}p cl eb|bhc{obju bfcjco`fv( ngv mbbj uncrdnu cl gv g ibp lgfuc}`j *******

D`|`jd g U`obl}gob

@j }bfbju pbg}v( unb}b ngv mbbj gj jf}bgv`jd jub}bvu j ******

]bfbju eb|bhc{objuv j unb bhe cl ng|b hbe uc g }bjbtbe jub}bvu j ******

Unb {gvu ebfgeb ngv vbbj unb }g{`e eb|bhc{obju cl `j ogjp *******

Unb {gvu un`}up pbg}v ng|b vbbj `jf}bgv`jdhp }g{`e ge|gjfbv `j unb bhe cl******

C|b} unb {gvu fbjur}p unb}b ngv mbbj g e}gogu`f jf}bgvb j ******

Cjb cl unb ocvu `o{c}ugju b|bjuv cl unb 704;v tgv ******

Unb fngjdbv b~{b}`bjfbe mp ^v c|b} unb {gvu ebfgeb }bog`j rj{}bfbebjube*

N`dnh`dnu`jd g hgfi cl ijcthbedb

Vc lg}( nctb|b}( unb}b ngv mbbj h`uuhb e`vfrvv`cj gmcru ******

Nctb|b}( lg} ucc h`uuhb guubju`cj ngv mbbj {g`e uc ******

Unb }bvbg}fn uc egub ngv ubjebe uc lcfrv cj ^ }gunb} ungj P*

@j gee`u`cj( jc }bvbg}fn ngv mbbj lcrje ungu vr}|bpbe *******

Vc lg} un`v obunce ngv cjhp mbbj g{{h`be uc ******

Nctb|b}( unb}b ng|b mbbj jc fcju}chhbe vure`bv tn`fn fco{g}b e`llb}bjfbv`j ******

Unb b~{b}`objugh egug g}b }gunb} fcju}c|b}v`gh( gje unb}b `v jc dbjb}gh

gd}bbobju gmcru ******

@ebju`lp`jd [}cmhbov

Nctb|b}( unbvb }g{`e fngjdbv g}b ng|`jd g vb}`crv bllbfu ******

Nctb|b}( g ogac} {}cmhbo t`un un`v i`je cl g{{h`fgu`cj v ******

Uc egub unb}b ngv mbbj h`uuhb gd}bbobju cj tngu ******

Oc}b }bfbjuhp( h`ub}gur}b ngv bob}dbe ungu cllb}v fcju}ge`fuc}p je`jdv gmcru *****

Unb}b v jf}bgv`jd fcjfb}j ungu vcob ^v g}b mb`jd e`vge|gjugdbe ******

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Ogi`jd Cmvb}|gu`cjv#B~{}bvv`jd C{`j`cjv

@u vbbov#g{{bg}v .uc ob) ungu *** cmvb}|gu cj .ubjugu |b)

@u `v fhbg}#g{{g}bju#b|`ebju#cm|`crvungu

cmvb}|gu`cj .fb}ug`j)

@u vbbov {cvv mhb#h`ibhp#{}cmgmhb ungu cmvb}|gu cj .|g}p jd ebd}bbv)

Fhbg}hp( *** B|`ebjuhp( *** Cm|`crvhp( *** cmvb}|gu cj .fb}ug`j)

@ lbbh ungu *** c{`j`cj .ubjugu`|b)

@ $o .gmvchrubhp) fcj| jfbe ungu *** c{ j cj .fb}ug j)

@ un`ji#ecj$u un`ji ungu *** c{`j`cj .{b}vcjgh)

[b}vcjghhp( @ mbh`b|b#vr{{cvb#lbbh.ungu) ***

c{`j`cj .{b}vcjgh)

2 ]nbuc}`fgh Wrbvu`cjv , Fcrjub}g}drobjuv

Utc ibp bhbobjuv uc e`vfrvv`cj g}b }nbuc}`fgh wrbvu`cjv gje d`|`jd fcrjub}g}dr/

objuv* Unbvb bhbobjuv }bwr`}b fcjv`eb}gmhb tc}i`jd `j fhgvv* Nctb|b}( ogib

vr}b pcr .7) rvb gu hbgvu cjb }nbuc}`fgh wrbvu`cj `j pcr} }vu {`bfb( gje .=) `ju}c/erfb g}drobjuv gje d`|b fcrjub}g}drobjuv rv`jd unb ibp* Cunb} g}drobjuv ogp

mb u}rb( lghvb c} }}bhb|gju uc pcr}v*

Gvi`jd ]nbuc}`fgh Wrbvu`cjv

Tnb}b ec tb fcjfbju}gub cr} bllc}uvjct3 Tbhh( ***

]nbuc}`fgh Wrbvu`cj

Pcr orvu gvi pcr}vbhl tnbunb} un`vtgv g arvu`gmhb fcr}vb cl gfu`cj*

G{{bgh uc Gre`bjfb .`je`}bfu)

Nct ec pcr gv gj `j|bvuc} }bv{cje ucunbvb ebogjev3

G{{bgh uc Gre`bjfb .e`}bfu)

Unbvb crum}bgiv orvu mb vuc{{be*Tnp3 Unbp g}b egogd`jd cr}}b{rugu`cj*

Vugubobju/gje/Gjvtb}

@u vbbov fhbg} tngu tb orvu ec* Mrung|b tb gfube3 Jc( tb ng|b jcu*

Ebh`mb}gu`cj

Unb wrbvu`cj g}`vbv gv uc tnbunb} un`v`vvrb `v }bhb|gju* Ec tb jbbe ucgee}bvv un`v {nbjcobjcj3

]bgvcj`jd Ghcre .`je`}bfu#e`}bfu)

D`|`jd Fcrjub}g}drobjuv

Tn`hb u v u}rb ungu *** ( *** u}rb g}drobju .fcjfbvv`cj) / mbuub}

Unb}b `v vcob u}run uc unb g}drobjuungu *** Nctb|b}( ***

@u v u}rb ungu *** Nctb|b}( ***

@u ogp mb u}rb ungu *** {cvv`mhb g}drobju .tbgi fcjfbvv`cj) /

B|bj `l ***

B|bj `l `u `v u}rb ***

@u v jcu u}rb ungu *** lghvb g}drobju .jc fcjfbvv`cj) / u}rb

Unbp fhg`o ungu *** mru `j lgfu ***

< Dbuu`jd `u Ectj'

Jct u}p gje {}cerfb g fc{pfgu ub~u lc} unb }vu e`vfrvv`cj ocebh* Tb|b hccibe gu

oc}b vc{n`vu`fgube vgo{hbv cl g}drobjugu`cj uc mr`he cj unb `j`u`gh ocebh* Pcr}vbfcje ub~u fgj lchhct un`v hbge gje ju}cerfb ghh unb bhbobjuv rvbe vc lg} .vrfn

gv fcjfbvv`cjv( fco{g}gu`|bv( fcje`u`cjghv)* Pcr ogp {}blb} unb v`o{h`f`up cl unb

mgv`f ocebh* Ecju lc}dbu unb jromb}`jd ju}cerfbe j bg}h`b} rj`uv*

' Vug}u t`un gjp e`vfrvv`cj uc{`f ungu d}gmv pcr} guubju`cj( tnbunb} j unb tc}i/{hgfb c} j pcr} {}`|gub h`lb* Unb l}go`jd v }brvgmhb gje }bfpfhgmhb* Unguv unb

{c`ju nb}b* Unbvb l}gobv tb bo{hcp g}b .7) hbg}ju un}crdn }b{bu`u`cj( .=) ebh`|/

b}be grucogu`fghhp( jc}oghhp lc} bllbfu .tnbunb} u v bo{ngv`v( mrp`jd un`ji`jd

u`ob( fhg}`up buf)( gje .6) g ogac} fco{cjbju cl nct tb v{bgi gje t}`ub*

' Unbvb rj`uv g}b ghh g|g`hgmhb gu ttt*l{bf*jbu lc} ectjhcge* Fnbfi cru unbbju`}b vb}`bv gje rvb unbo uc {}cerfb fc{pfgu ub~uv* V`o{hp vrmvu`urub pcr} fcj/

ubju lc} o`jb' Cjfb pcr|b ecjb ungu pcr fgj u}p uc mr`he cj unb mgv`fv mp rv`jd g

e`llb}bju l}go`jd ocebh l}co Mr`he`jd cj Mgv`fv* Oc|b l}co dbjb}gh vugubobjuv uc

v{bf`f* D`|b b~go{hbv uc ogib pcr}vbhl fhbg}*

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