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Has anybody used George Bayer's 5 fold horoscope methodology? If so what is your opinion

of it? Is there any astrological software which will produce this horoscope? I am using Astrolog

and I am pretty sure it can't do it.

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Hello p75213,

I am using Bayer 5 fold horoscope method, however I think there is some flaw in his method

about calculating the house position, or may be I missed somthing. Hence I need to calculate

house again. This method work very well with R,RM,R15,RM15, however not good with M andother then, mainly as former reason.

For software to calculate, I try alot but not found anything, so I myself create program to use. I

sure you can use Excel to generate what Bayer did in just 10 minutes, this is my opinion after

done this program in 2 weeks.

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Hello tuanha,What is R,RM,R15,RM15 and M?


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What is R,RM,R15,RM15 and M?In Bayer 5 fold method, he use R for Radix, RM for Radix Mirror, R15 for Radix+15 degree...


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Originally Posted by tuanha

In Bayer 5 fold method, he use R for Radix, RM for Radix Mirror, R15 for Radix+15 degree...

an you explain the method for me plz


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Originally Posted by halasoria

an you explain the method for me plzI can summarize by step:

1. Use first trade date with time is the opening bell of stock exchange where stock trade; or firsttime commodities/forex traded, we got the natal chart (birth chart) contain all information of

planets, that we call R

2. Add 15 degree to all planets position, we get R15. Eg Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'' (3 degree24 minute 15 second), then we add 15*, and get the result 18*24'15''.

3. From R, we mirror entire all planet by center vertical line, and get result RM (Radix Mirror).

Eg: Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'', then the mirror of Jup is Leo 26*05'45''.

4. Add 15 degree to all planet RM, we get RM15

5. This is the hasdest part of this method. From R we use planet position and house position to

create Mundane chart, call M, and then like R we create MR, M15, MR15.

6. With all 8 planets' map created, we arrange and sort all together to get the final map.

7.Use moon motion in 1 (ONE) day, we devide to 365/366, and if moon create aspect with planet

position in (6), we get entire market trend map. With this map we can far-see the future atanytime in advance. Eg stock A is at 10h00 2001.01.01, then we use the moon motion from

10h00 2001.01.01 to 10h00 2001.01.02 for first year, from 10h00 2001.01.02 to 10h00

2001.01.03 for 2nd year.....
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As reading and practicing this method, I still not clear how Bayer calculate house position for M,

because the house seem not fit any house system we are using, and this is the biggest problem.

As I tested, the R,RM,R15,RM15 work well (with small adjust), but I can not get exact M then I

can not use entire method as predict trend, just use for turning date base on R,R15.... The result is

good, turning/accelerate point can predict within 1-3 days

For more information, I suggest read entire Bayer book (turning 400 years astrology to practical),

it may take you 1-2 weeks to understand fully this method. There is already practice example in

his book.

Tuanha.


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I can summarize by step:

1. Use first trade date with time is the opening bell of stock exchange where stock trade; or firsttime commodities/forex traded, we got the natal chart (birth chart) contain all information of

planets, that we call R
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2. Add 15 degree to all planets position, we get R15. Eg Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'' (3 degree

24 minute 15 second), then we add 15*, and get the result 18*24'15''.

3. From R, we mirror entire all planet by center vertical line, and get result RM (Radix Mirror).

Eg: Jupiter is at Taurus 3*24'15'', then the mirror of Jup is Leo 26*05'45''.

4. Add 15 degree to all planet RM, we get RM15

5. This is the hasdest part of this method. From R we use planet position and house position to

create Mundane chart, call M, and then like R we create MR, M15, MR15.

6. With all 8 planets' map created, we arrange and sort all together to get the final map.

7.Use moon motion in 1 (ONE) day, we devide to 365/366, and if moon create aspect with planetposition in (6), we get entire market trend map. With this map we can far-see the future at

anytime in advance. Eg stock A is at 10h00 2001.01.01, then we use the moon motion from

10h00 2001.01.01 to 10h00 2001.01.02 for first year, from 10h00 2001.01.02 to 10h002001.01.03 for 2nd year.....

As reading and practicing this method, I still not clear how Bayer calculate house position for M,

because the house seem not fit any house system we are using, and this is the biggest problem.

As I tested, the R,RM,R15,RM15 work well (with small adjust), but I can not get exact M then I

can not use entire method as predict trend, just use for turning date base on R,R15.... The result isgood, turning/accelerate point can predict within 1-3 days

For more information, I suggest read entire Bayer book (turning 400 years astrology to practical),

it may take you 1-2 weeks to understand fully this method. There is already practice example inhis book.

Tuanha.thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Dear Thanks for your interest. your Uranus is activated in you chart.In simple word astrology is mother of all sciences, and Numerology is father of all sciences.

I suggest if you like vedic or western you choose. there is very little difference.

Starts with planets, signs and there properties and there significance.google it get course or book if you want i will share.

but it is not easy to predict it need lot of study and patience.Reply Reply With Quote Blog this Post

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Hello tuanha,

So did you use excel or another program to generate the output, and can you give a screen shot of

your output, as I might spend the time to create my own version.

Originally Posted by tuanha

Hello p75213,

I am using Bayer 5 fold horoscope method, however I think there is some flaw in his method

about calculating the house position, or may be I missed somthing. Hence I need to calculate

house again. This method work very well with R,RM,R15,RM15, however not good with M and

other then, mainly as former reason.

For software to calculate, I try alot but not found anything, so I myself create program to use. I

sure you can use Excel to generate what Bayer did in just 10 minutes, this is my opinion afterdone this program in 2 weeks.

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So did you use excel or another program to generate the output, and can you give a screen shot ofyour output, as I might spend the time to create my own version.

Here is the output screen shot. I am very appreciate any one practice this method and willing to

share this program if can tell me about the way to calculate M house. To programming

(C#/VB...) you need library swedll32.dll.


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Thanks Tuanha,

I did once write a program a few years ago in excel I think using the swedll32.dll to give me
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various planetary positions to try and figure out what aspects were applying when we had turns

in a stock. So as soon as I have the time I'll go through Bayer's book, I'm also consulting with a

professional astrologer to help me with astrological aspects. Will contact you as soon as I'veworked something out.

best Wishesiactnow

Originally Posted by tuanhaHere is the output screen shot. I am very appreciate any one practice this method and willing to

share this program if can tell me about the way to calculate M house. To programming

(C#/VB...) you need library swedll32.dll.


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