From the Vonnegut’s chrono-synclastic infundibulum to the collapse of the wave function

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Catalina Curceanu, Kristian Piscicchia Laboratori Nazionali di Frascati dell’INFN & Centro Fermi Collaboration with Group lead by A. Bassi 24-28 February ECT* 24-28 February ECT* TRento TRento From the Vonnegut’s chrono-synclastic infundibulum to the collapse of the wave function

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From the Vonnegut’s chrono-synclastic infundibulum to the collapse of the wave function. Catalina Curceanu, Kristian Piscicchia Laboratori Nazionali di Frascati dell ’ INFN & Centro Fermi Collaboration with Group lead by A. Bassi. 24-28 February ECT* TRento. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Catalina Curceanu, Kristian Piscicchia

Laboratori Nazionali di Frascati dell’INFN

&Centro Fermi

Collaboration withGroup lead by A. Bassi

24-28 February ECT*24-28 February ECT*TRentoTRento

From the Vonnegut’s chrono-synclastic infundibulum to the

collapse of the wave function

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AN OPEN PROBLEMS IN QUANTUM MECHANICS:

the “measurement problem”

collapse of the wave function

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When I hear about Schrodinger’s cat

I reach for my gun

(Hawking)

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A different story:

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Traveling between Earth and Mars, the ship carrying Rumfoord and his dog, Kazakentered a phenomenon

known as a chrono-synclastic infundibulum, which is defined in

the novel as "those places ... where all the different kinds of truths fit

together."

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The chrono-synclastic infundibula are places where these "ways to be right" coexist. When they enter the infundibulum, Rumfoord and Kazak become "wave phenomena", somewhat akin to the probability waves encountered in quantum mechanics.

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They exist along a spiral stretching from the Sun to the star Betelgeuse. When a planet, such as the Earth, intersects their spiral, Rumfoord and Kazak materialize, temporarily, on that planet.

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Possible “solutions”:

-De Broglie – Bohm

- Many-World Interpretations

-Collapse of the w.f.

-.....

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What are collapse models1. Collapse models = solution of the

measurement problem Paradox-free description of the quantum world

2. Collapse models = rival theory of Quantum Mechanics They give quantitative meaning to experiments testing quantum linearity

3. Collapse models as phenomenological models of an underlying pre-quantum theory

Can gravity causes the collapse?

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Laboratory experiments

Distance (decades) from the enhanced

CSL valueCosmological data

Distance (decades) from the enhanced

CSL value

Fullerene diffraction experiments 3-4 Dissociation of cosmic

hydrogen 9

Decay of supercurrents (SQUIDs) 6 Heating of Intergalactic

medium (IGM) 0

Spontaneous X-ray emission from Ge -2 Heating of protons in

the universe 4

Proton decay 10 Heating of Interstellar dust grains 7

Upper bounds on the parameter λ

S.L. Adler and A. Bassi, Science 325, 275 (2009)

Present day technology allows for crucial tests

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New analysis: using published data of the IGEX experiment

The IGEX experiment is a low-activity Ge based experiment dedicated to the decay research. (C. E. Aalseth et al.,

IGEX collaboration Phys. Rev. C 59, 2108 (1999))

In (A. Morales et al., IGEX collaboration Phys. Lett. B 532, 8-14 (2002)) the published data acquired for an exposure

of 80 kg day in the energy range:E = (4 – 49) keV « me keV → compatible with the non-

relativistic assumption.

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New analysis: results and discussionThe X-ray spectrum was fitted assuming the predicted energy

dependence:

With () free parameter, bin contents are treated with Poisson statistics.

Fit result:

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The performed fit enables to set an upper limit on the reduction rate parameter:

]

1)assuming the parameters used in Fu's work (aGRW = 10-7 m) → < 1.8 x 10-16 s-1

(Fu's result < 0.55 x 10-16 s-1) compatible with GRW but...

2) … correcting Fu's calculation according with (S. L. Adler, J. Phys. A40 (2007) 2935)

→ < 1.4 x 10-17 s-1

New analysis: results and discussion

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3) if a mass-proportional model is assumed (noise having a gravitational orgin?) then:

< 4.7 x 10-11 s-1

4) taking the 22 outer electrons (down to the 3s orbit BE3s = 180.1 eV) in the calculation:

< 2.5 x 10-18 s-1 < 8.5 x 10-

12 s-1 No mass-

proportional mass-proportional

New analysis: results and discussion

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When the emission of nuclear protons is also considered, the spontaneous emission rate is:

(Bassi’s talk) We consider in the calculation the 30 outermost electrons (down to 2s orbit) re = 4 x 10-10 m and take only the measured rate for k > 35 keV

Moreover BE2s = 1.4 keV « kmin → electrons can be considered as quasi-free

E = (35 – 49) keV « me keV → compatible with the non-relativistic assumption.

Spontaneous emission including nuclear protons

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Spontaneous emission including nuclear protons

The interval E = (35 – 49) keV of the IGEX measured X-ray spectrum was fitted assuming the predicted energy dependence:

With () free parameter, bin contents are treated with Poisson statistics.

Fit result:

() = 148 ± 21X/ n.d.f. = 0.8

Corresponding to the limits on the spontaneous emission rate:

< 8.1 x 10-20 s-1 < 2.7 x 10-13 s-1 No mass-

proportional Mass-proportional

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Spontaneous emission including nuclear protons

Limits on the spontaneous emission rate:

< 8.1 x 10-20 s-1 < 2.7 x 10-13 s-1No mass-

proportional Mass-proportional

The stability of the above limits were tested by varing the interval E. Fit results are consistent within 1.

The above limits are also consistent with a punctual evaluation, performed using one bin from H. S. Miley, et

al., Phys. Rev. Lett. 65, 3092 (1990) corresponding to k = 101 keV

The obtained limit for the Mass proportional assumption is: < 3.1 x 10-13 s-1

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VIP experiment & VIP upgrade ...

possible test of collapse models

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SDD detectors (usati in SDD detectors (usati in SIDDHARTA)SIDDHARTA)

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The VIP-2 target – detector – veto counter setup

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LNGS

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VIP setup at LNGS February 2006

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Test with same method different physics:Violation of the Pauli Exclusion Principle

&Collapse of the wave function

(dynamical reduction models, GRW-like)

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