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[REPORT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION
ON OCTOBER 23, 2007 BEGINS ON PAGE 194]
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GOOD MORNING. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
MEETING IS IN SESSION. I ASK EVERYONE TO RISE FOR THE
INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THE INVOCATION WILL BE
LED BY SENIOR PASTOR TOM HOCKING FROM BELLFLOWER BRETHREN
CHURCH IN THE CITY OF BELLFLOWER AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
WILL BE LED BY LEO KAYE COMMANDER OF POST 617 OF THE LOS
ANGELES JEWISH WAR VETERANS. PASTOR HOCKING
PASTOR TOM HOCKING: WOULD YOU PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE. HEAVENLY
FATHER, IT'S A REAL PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO COME BEFORE YOU TO
INTERCEDE FOR THESE FIVE PEOPLE AND THE RESPONSIBILITY THEY
HAVE AND ESPECIALLY, LORD, FOR OUR COUNTY. IT'S NOT REALLY
DIFFICULT, LORD, TO THINK OF WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW. I JUST
PRAY, LORD, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST HOMES AND FOR THE
PROTECTION AND STRENGTH THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS NEED. I PRAY
THAT YOU'D GIVE COMFORT TO THE HEARTS OF THEIR FAMILIES THAT
ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEM. I PRAY FOR YOUR COMFORT, AS WELL,
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST FAMILY MEMBERS. LORD, SOMETIMES WE
DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY TRAGEDIES LIKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT I JUST
REMEMBER, GOD, HOW YOU HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS IN MY LIFE WHEN
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THE WORST OF TIMES HAVE HIT, THAT YOU'VE USED PERIODS OF REAL
PAIN TO BRING REAL GROWTH TO MY LIFE. AND SO I PRAY FOR THAT
FOR OUR COUNTY, GOD, THAT THIS TIME OF REALIZING THAT THINGS
ARE BEYOND OUR CONTROL, THAT YOU WOULD USE THIS PERIOD,
FATHER, TO TEACH US THAT WE NEED YOU, LORD. SOMETIMES WE'RE
VERY RESPONSIBLE AND WE'RE HARD WORKING AND WE'RE INDUSTRIOUS
AND SELF-RELIANT AND SELF-SUFFICIENT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS
ARE GOOD EXCEPT THEY SOMETIMES VEIL THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GREAT
AND WE'RE NOT, YOU'RE HOLY AND WE'RE NOT, AND YOU'RE STRONG
AND WE'RE NOT, AND YOUR WISDOM IS SOMETHING WE NEED. GOD, MAKE
US HUMBLE. I PAY FOR THESE FIVE PEOPLE, THESE SUPERVISORS,
THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO LEAD WITH GRACE,
HUMILITY, CONSCIOUSNESS OF THEIR NEED, THAT THEY'D HAVE AN EYE
ON ETERNITY, AND NOT JUST LOOK AT THE CURRENT, PRESENT ISSUES,
THAT THEIR ULTIMATE DESIRE WOULD BE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN
ALL OF ETERNITY. AND SO, LORD, I PRAY, I PRAY FOR OUR COUNTY.
GOD, I PRAY-- WE HAVE A DESPERATE NEED FOR LOVE AND PEACE AND
HARMONY AND UNITY HERE. AND I REMEMBER THE WORDS OF SOMEONE IN
THE SCRIPTURES WHO SAID THAT WE SHOULD LOVE THE LORD OUR GOD
WITH ALL OUR HEART, SOUL, MIND AND STRENGTH AND LOVE OUR
NEIGHBOR AS OUR SELF. AND I THINK SOMETIMES WE CAN'T DO THE
SECOND BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THE FIRST. AND SO I PRAY FOR
OUR COUNTY, LORD, AS WE STRIVE TO FIND WAYS TO CONNECT WITH
EACH OTHER, THAT RELATIONSHIPS WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN
POLICIES AND THAT CONNECTING WITH EACH OTHER WOULD BE AN
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OUTGROWTH OF OUR CONNECTION TO YOU. FATHER, I CONFESS MY OWN
SELFISHNESS AND MY OWN PRIDE IN THE WAYS THAT I THINK THAT
I'VE GOT LIFE UNDER CONTROL. TIMES LIKE THIS MAKE US ALL
REALIZE WE DON'T. AND SO WITH HUMILITY, GOD, I PRAY FOR YOUR
FORGIVENESS AND I PRAY FOR THE ABILITY TO LIVE WITH INTEGRITY
AND WITH GRACE, WITH KINDNESS TOWARDS THE PEOPLE AROUND ME AND
FOR THESE FIVE SUPERVISORS, THAT THEIR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS,
THEIR INDIVIDUAL LIVES, THE CHARACTER OF THEIR RELATIONSHIPS
WOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE POLICIES THAT THEY MAKE. I
PRAY FOR THEM, GOD. AND I PRAY WITH MY OWN COMMITMENT TO--
RENEWED COMMITMENT TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY FOR EVERY DAY OF MY
LIFE, FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE WITH INTEGRITY AND WITH SERVICE
AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY THAT I SERVE, BELLFLOWER. AMEN.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU.
LEO KAYE: EVERYONE FACE THE FLAG, PLEASE. AND PLACE YOUR RIGHT
HAND OVER YOUR HEART AND FOLLOW ME TO THE PLEDGE. [PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE RECITED.]
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SUPERVISOR KNABE.
SUP. KNABE: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBER OF THE BOARD,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,. IT IS MY PRIVILEGE TO PRESENT A
CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION TO PASTOR TOM HOCKING FOR HIS FINE
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INVOCATION THIS MORNING. PASTOR HOCKING WAS BORN IN AFRICA TO
MISSIONARY PARENTS WHO ARE STILL LIVING AND SERVING IN THE
COUNTRY OF CAMEROON. HE'S BEEN A PART OF THE BELLFLOWER
COMMUNITY SINCE 1980 WHEN HE JOINED THE BELLFLOWER BRETHREN
CHURCH AS A COLLEGE STUDENT. OVER THE YEARS, HE HAS SERVED THE
CHURCH IN MANY POSITIONS BUT THE LAST 15 HE HAS BEEN THE
SENIOR PASTOR THERE AT BELLFLOWER BRETHREN. HE'S IN HIS THIRD
YEAR OF A DOCTORAL PROGRAM AT FULLER THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY
STUDYING MISSIONARY LEADERSHIP. HIS WIFE IS A DOCTOR OF
INTERNAL MEDICINE, AND THEY HAVE THREE SONS AND A DAUGHTER.
NEXT YEAR, THEY WILL BE CELEBRATING TWO MARRIAGES, THREE
COLLEGE GRADUATIONS AND ONE HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION. SOUNDS
LIKE A BIG PAY RAISE, TOO, HUH? YES. AND PASTOR HOCKING, WE'D
LIKE TO PRESENT THE CERTIFICATE AND SAY THANK YOU, GODSPEED
AND THANK YOU FOR A VERY KIND, KIND INVOCATION. [APPLAUSE.]
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE WERE LED IN THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE THIS MORNING BY LEO KAYE, WHO IS ACTUALLY
A RESIDENT OF SUPERVISOR BURKE'S DISTRICT IN BEVERLYWOOD. BUT
IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT, I'LL LET YOU HAVE IT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I'VE KNOWN LEO FOR A WHILE. HE
REPRESENTS THE JEWISH WAR VETERANS POST 617 IN LOS ANGELES.
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HE'S A COMMANDER. HE SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY AIR
CORPS FROM 1943 THROUGH '45 ACHIEVING THE RANK OF LIEUTENANT.
HE WAS IN THE 497TH BOMBING SQUAD IN EUROPE, AND AMONG OTHER
THINGS SERVED IN THE BATTLES OF THE PULASKI OIL FIELDS IN
POLAND, BOMBING OVER POLAND DURING THE LATTER PART OF THE WAR.
HE RECEIVED A BRONZE STAR MEDAL, GOOD CONDUCT MEDAL, EUROPEAN
AFRICAN MIDDLE EASTERN CAMPAIGN MEDAL AND THE WORLD WAR II
VICTORY MEDAL. HE'S THE OWNER OF A BEAUTY SUPPLY COMPANY,
VERMONT BEAUTY SUPPLIES. MARRIED WITH TWO CHILDREN. HAS LIVED
IN THE DISTRICT FOR 50 YEARS. A GRADUATE OF FAIRFAX HIGH
SCHOOL, A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE I GRADUATED FAIRFAX HIGH
SCHOOL. AND ALSO A GRADUATE OF U.C.L.A. ALSO A COUPLE YEARS
BEFORE. AND WE HAD A GOOD WEEKEND LAST WEEKEND, DIDN'T WE AT
U.C.L.A.?
LEO KAYE: WE GOT A WINNER.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: LET'S KEEP IT GOING. LEO, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND THANK YOU FOR LEADING US IN
THE PLEDGE THIS MORNING. [APPLAUSE.] MRS. KAYE IS IN THE
AUDIENCE. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HER PRESENCE. WHERE ARE YOU?
THERE SHE IS. GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE CALL
THE AGENDA, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT. I'M SURE MR.
ANTONOVICH WILL MAKE HIS OWN COMMENT. BUT I JUST WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THE INCREDIBLE RESPONSE UNDER VERY TRYING
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CIRCUMSTANCES OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT -- ALL OF THE FIRE
DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE RESPONDED TO OUR DISASTERS HERE IN THE
WESTERN AND NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WHO HAVE BEEN EQUALLY AS DILIGENT. AND I
KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF-- A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN OUR PART OF
TOWN AND EVACUATIONS AND MANDATORY AND VOLUNTARY. THERE'S A
PURPOSE TO ALL OF IT. AND IT'S ALL-- THE ONLY PURPOSE IS THE
SAFE-- IS TO PROTECT LIVES AND ENABLE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO
OPERATE WITH IMPUNITY AND IN PROTECTING PROPERTY. THAT'S
REALLY-- AND IT'S WORKED OUT CONSIDERABLY BETTER THAN IT BY
ALL STANDARDS SHOULD HAVE, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN JUST A
PERFECT STORM OF A FIRE-- OR FIRES. THE WINDS ARE AS HIGH AS
THEY'VE EVER BEEN. THE FUEL IS AS THICK AS IT'S EVER BEEN. THE
BRUSH IS AS DRY AS IT'S EVER BEEN. AND IT'S THE TRIFECTA ON
THIS SORT OF THING. AND IT'S NOT OVER YET, ESPECIALLY IN THE
NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY WHERE THINGS ARE REALLY RAGING.
SO, AGAIN, THANKS TO ALL OF THOSE FOLKS. MY ONLY ADMONITION TO
THE CITIZENRY IS LISTEN TO WHAT THE FIRE OFFICIALS AND THE
SHERIFFS HAVE TO SAY, AND ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION. MIKE?
MR. KNABE AND THEN MR. ANTONOVICH.
SUP. KNABE: I WOULD JUST ADD THAT IT'S BEEN A PHENOMENAL
RESPONSE, BUT I HAVE BEEN IN EMAIL CONTACT WITH OUR FORMER
C.A.O. MR. JANSSEN WHO HAS BEEN EVACUATED, DOWN IN THE POWELL
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AREA HE'S HANGING TOUGH. STILL DOESN'T KNOW WHETHER HE HAS A
HOME YET OR NOT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS. MR. ANTONOVICH,
DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENT?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: I WAS ON THE FIRE LINE YESTERDAY WITH BILL
FUJIOKA, AND RIGHT WHEN THE EVACUATION CENTERS-- BUT OUR
COUNTY FIRE PERSONNEL HAD DONE AN EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE JOB AND
THEIR DEDICATION AND THEIR WORK ALONG WITH OUR SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT. UNLIKE LOUISIANA, KATRINA, WE HAVE MUTUAL AID
PACTS. SO WE'VE HAD OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ASSISTING OUR COUNTY
FIRE, WORKING IN COOPERATION WITH THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, ALONG WITH OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE HIGHWAY
PATROL AND OTHER LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. HENCE, WHAT'S
INTERESTING AT SAUGAS HIGH SCHOOL, THE FOOTBALL TEAM
CHEERLEADERS, STUDENTS WERE MAKING FOOD, THE SANDWICHES FOR
THE PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN IMPACTED. A QUARTERBACK OF THE
FOOTBALL TEAM WAS INVOLVED IN PUTTING UP THE BEDS FOR THOSE
VICTIMS, ONLY TO FIND OUT WHEN HE GOT HOME, HE WAS ONE OF THE
VICTIMS AND HAD TO SPEND THE NIGHT AT THE SHELTER, AS WELL.
BUT THE FACULTY, THE PRINCIPAL, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY HAD DONE
AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF WHAT ALEXIS DE TOCQUEVILLE DISCOVERED,
WHAT MADE AMERICA UNIQUE, AND HAS PUT DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA:
NEIGHBOR HELPING NEIGHBOR. AND THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT IN THE
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SANTA CLARITA VALLEY. GETTING THE ANIMALS, EQUESTRIANS WHO'D
BEEN IMPACTED, ANIMAL CONTROL. WE HAVE TRAILERS MOVING THE
HORSES AND OTHER ANIMALS TO SAFETY. HARD PART: MOVING OUT SOME
OF THE ANTIQUITIES THERE. THE COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION, ALL
OF THE PUBLIC WORKS HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB. SO THEY JUST
NEED OUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. AND WE WILL GET OVER THIS TRAGEDY.
BUT IT'S IRONIC THAT TWO-THIRDS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S
ECONOMIC POWER POPULATION IS SEVERELY IMPACTED IN THIS FIRE.
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT 300,000 PEOPLE EVACUATED FROM SAN
DIEGO? THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE EVACUATED FROM THE ANTELOPE
VALLEY. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE EVACUATED FROM MALIBU. IT'S
JUST-- IT IS A VERY TRAGIC SITUATION. BUT THANKS TO THE
TRAINING AND PROFESSIONALISM OF OUR FIRE AND PUBLIC SAFETY
PERSONNEL, WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THAT CHALLENGE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AGAIN, BEFORE WE
GET TO THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I WANT TO-- THERE MAY BE SOME
PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, AND I WANT TO KIND OF LAY OUT THE PLAN
ON ITEM NUMBER 7, WHICH IS THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS LOCAL
COASTAL PLAN THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE
QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE
TESTIFIED TODAY WHO ARE PREOCCUPIED IN THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS AREA WITH THEIR OWN PROBLEMS TODAY. SO WHAT WE WILL
DO IS WE WILL HAVE A HEARING FOR THOSE WHO DID COME TODAY,
HEAR FROM THEM AND THEN HOLD THE HEARING OVER TILL NEXT
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TUESDAY BY WHICH TIME HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ALL BE-- THINGS WILL
BE BACK TO NORMAL. AND THOSE WHO DID NOT TESTIFY TODAY WILL
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY NEXT TUESDAY AND DECISION DAY
WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY AS OPPOSED TO TODAY. IF THERE'S ANYBODY
HERE TODAY WHO WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT TUESDAY, THAT'S FINE,
TOO. JUST LET US KNOW. LET THE SERGEANT-AT-ARMS KNOW. GIVE
THEM YOUR NAME. WE'LL PULL YOUR CARD AND WE'LL JUST HAVE IT
FOR NEXT TUESDAY AND YOU CAN LEAVE EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE COME A
LONG WAY. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT NEXT TUESDAY, YOU'LL SAVE
PROBABLY A COUPLE HOURS TODAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD
TODAY, YOU WILL BE HEARD TODAY. SO EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A
CHANCE TO BE HEARD. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
SUP. KNABE: IS ONE WEEK ENOUGH, YOU THINK?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YES.
SUP. KNABE: OKAY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT, I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED NEXT
WEEK IS THE BEILENSON FOR KING, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD DO IT IN
TWO WEEKS, THEN. SO IT WOULD BE NOVEMBER, WHAT'S THE DATE?
THIRD? NO, THAT'S NOT THE DATE
SACHI A. HAMAI, CLERK: IT'S NOVEMBER 6TH.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SIXTH. ON NOVEMBER 6TH. NO, THAT'S
ELECTION DAY IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY. ALL RIGHT, LET'S
LEAVE IT FOR NEXT WEEK. WE'LL TRY TO HAVE IT EARLY AND MOVE IT
ALONG. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO IT BEFORE 12. IT'S CONCEIVABLE
WE COULD. AND IF NOT WE'LL HOLD IT-- DO THE BEELONSIN-- WE'LL
HAVE TO JUST PLAY IT BY EAR.
SUP. BURKE: BEILENSON START AT NOON?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YEAH, AT NOON. ALL RIGHT,. SO THOSE OF
YOU WHO ARE HERE ON NUMBER 7, YOU UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, I
HOPE IT'S CLEAR. ALL RIGHT. NOW, SACHI, YOU CAN TAKE US
THROUGH THE AGENDA.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE
BOARD. WE WILL BEGIN TODAY'S AGENDA ON PAGE 3, AGENDA FOR THE
MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, ITEM 1 D.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY, ITEM 1 D, MOLINA MOVES, KNABE
SECONDS, WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: AGENDA FOR THE MEETING OF THE HOUSING
AUTHORITY, ITEM 1 H.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: BURKE MOVES, ANTONOVICH SECONDS,
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS 1 THROUGH 8, ON
ITEM NUMBER 6, SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE
THIS ITEM FIVE WEEKS TO NOVEMBER 27TH, 2007; HOWEVER, THERE
ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS
MATTER.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: ON THAT POINT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE
COME DOWN TO TESTIFY. AND IF THEY WOULD LIKE, THEY CAN TESTIFY
TODAY, BUT WE WILL MAKE A DECISION THE FOLLOWING MONTH. SO
YOUR CHOICE. WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP, IF YOU WANT TO TESTIFY,
WE'LL CALL YOU. THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WE'LL HANDLE IT THAT
WAY. GO AHEAD.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: AS PREVIOUSLY INDICATED, ON ITEM 7, WE WILL
HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TODAY, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE CONTINUED TO
NEXT TUESDAY, OCTOBER 30TH. UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS,
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ITEMS 9 THROUGH 16, ON ITEMS NUMBER 12
AND 13, SUPERVISOR KNABE AND SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH AND A
MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC REQUEST THAT THESE ITEMS BE HELD. ON ITEM
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NUMBER 16, THERE'S A REQUEST FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO
HOLD THIS ITEM. THE REMAINING ITEMS ARE BEFORE YOU. SIXTEEN.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: 12, 13 AND 16?
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: YES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ON THE REMAINDER, MR. ANTONOVICH MOVES,
MOLINA SECONDS; UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: CONSENT CALENDAR, ITEMS 17 THROUGH 23. ON
ITEM 21, THERE'S A REQUEST FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO HOLD
THIS ITEM. ON ITEM NUMBER 22, AS INDICATED ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL
AGENDA, THIS ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AND WILL BE HELD FOR DISCUSSION. AND THE REMAINING ARE BEFORE
YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MOLINA MOVES, ANTONOVICH SECONDS;
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ON PAGE 11, DISCUSSION ITEMS, ITEMS 24
THROUGH 26, WE WILL HOLD THOSE FOR DISCUSSION. ON PAGE 12,
MISCELLANEOUS, ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA WHICH WERE POSTED MORE
THAN 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING AS INDICATED ON THE
SUPPLEMENTAL AGENDA. ITEM 27 A.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: BURKE MOVES, ANTONOVICH SECONDS;
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: 27 B.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I WILL MOVE IT. MOLINA SECONDS;
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: 27 C.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: KNABE MOVES, ANTONOVICH SECONDS;
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: 27 D. ANTONOVICH MOVES, KNABE SECONDS,
UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: AND ON 27 E, WE WILL HOLD THIS FOR A
REPORT. AND THAT COMPLETES THE READING OF THE AGENDA. BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS SPECIAL ITEMS BEGIN WITH SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICT
NO. 1.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS?
MISS BURKE FOR PRESENTATIONS.
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SUP. BURKE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD,
VICTOR CAJO, SITE MANAGER AT THE LENNOX SENIOR CENTER. AND
VICTOR'S BEEN SO WONDERFUL OVER THE YEARS, AND HE'S REALLY
LOVED BY ALL THE SENIORS THERE. THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
AGING IN SACRAMENTO RECENTLY SUBMITTED LENNOX SENIOR CENTER AS
THEIR NOMINATION AS A MODEL PROGRAM SERVING THE HISPANIC,
LATINO ELDERLY AT A COMMUNITY LEVEL. THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ADMINISTRATION ON AGING, WILL SOON
RECOGNIZE NATIONWIDE FOUR PROGRAMS AS PROJECT CHAMPIONS. THE
DEDICATED WORK OF VICTOR CAJO IS HIGHLY COMMENDED. THE LENNOX
SENIOR CENTER IS AN EXCEPTIONAL SENIOR PROGRAM WHOSE SERVICES
ARE CULTURALLY ACCESSIBLE TO OVER 90 PEOPLE VISITING THE
CENTER DAILY. ALTHOUGH IT IS FAIRLY SMALL AS A CENTER COMPARED
TO SOME, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES. THEY PROVIDE
AEROBIC EXERCISE CLASSES, BINGO, DOMINOES, NEEDLEPOINT AND
CERAMIC CLASSES, AND OF COURSE THEY HAVE SOME EXCELLENT
DANCERS. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. AND ADDITIONALLY,
THEY CONDUCT ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE CLASS AND COMPUTER
CLASSES IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE L.A. COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF
PARKS AND RECREATION. AND THEY ALSO WORK WITH THE CITY OF
ENGLEWOOD. IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT I PRESENT THIS
SCROLL TO VICTOR CAJO, SITE MANAGER OF LENNOX SENIOR CENTER.
AND ALL THE SENIORS OF THE CENTER FOR BEING NOMINATED AS A
MODEL SENIOR PROGRAM SERVING THE HISPANIC, LATINO COMMUNITY.
[APPLAUSE.]
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VICTOR CAJO: NUMBER ONE, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, LORD, FOR
THIS GRAND OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU TO SUPERVISORS OVER HERE, TO
MY SUPERVISOR FROM INGLEWOOD, THAT MANAGES IN PARK
RECREATIONS, ESPECIALLY ________. SHE IS NOT HERE. I MISS HER.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE. HOW WE CATCH
THIS ONE? ONLY FOR A SMILING FACE AND FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT
GOD LIVES IN EACH ONE. SEE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT GOD LIVES IN
ANYONE, WE LOVE ONE TO ANOTHER ONE. THANK YOU, LORD. THANK
YOU, MRS. BURKE. AND THANK YOU, MY VOLUNTEERS, WHO EVERYONE
WORKS TOGETHER. GOD BLESS AMERICA. [APPLAUSE.]
SUP. BURKE: CONGRATULATIONS. OH ABSOLUTELY. YOU KEEP ME ON MY
TOES. THERE'S NO QUESTION. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD
MARVIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PRINCIPAL, ESTELLE LUCKETTE. OVER
69,000 CHILDREN IN CALIFORNIA RECENTLY PARTICIPATED IN THE
GOVERNOR'S CHALLENGE TO BE ACTIVE FOR THREE DAYS A WEEK AND
MAINTAIN THEIR SCHEDULE FOR FOUR WEEKS. THIS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL
PROGRAM THAT PROMOTES HEALTH AND FITNESS FOR OUR YOUTH AND
SCHOOLS ACROSS U.S. AT THE RECENT GOVERNOR'S COUNCIL ON
PHYSICAL FITNESS AND SPORTS, 2007 SPOTLIGHT AWARD CEREMONY,
THE GOVERNOR HONORED A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS IN SEVEN AWARD
CATEGORIES: TEACHER OF THE YEAR, PRINCIPAL OF THE YEAR,
COMPANY OF THE YEAR, ORGANIZATION OF THE YEAR, EVENT OF THE
YEAR, PARK PROGRAM OF THE YEAR AND SCHOOL OF THE YEAR. IT IS
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AN HONOR TODAY TO HAVE PRINCIPAL ESTELLE LUCKETTE OF MARVIN
ELEMENTARY HERE, IN RECOGNITION OF MARVIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
EARNING THE 2007 GOVERNOR'S CHALLENGE SPOTLIGHT AS SCHOOL OF
THE YEAR. MARVIN ELEMENTARY HAD A 100 PERCENT PARTICIPATION
RATE OF CHILDREN WHO TOOK PART AND COMPLETED THE CHALLENGE OF
SUPPORTING HEALTHY EATING ON CAMPUS, PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND THE
NEED FOR A FITNESS ACTIVITY CENTER ON THEIR CAMPUS. IT'S WITH
A GREAT PLEASURE THAT I PRESENT THIS SCROLL TO ESTELLE
LUCKETTE, PRINCIPAL OF MARVIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE WINNER OF
2007 GOVERNOR'S CHALLENGE. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A
NEW PRINCIPAL? AND YOU'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE HER. BUT FIRST
LET ME MAKE THIS PRESENTATION TO YOU.
ESTELLE LUCKETTE: GOOD MORNING. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE
PRESENT PRINCIPAL. I JUST WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED. I AM NOW A
DIRECTOR OF ELEMENTARY INSTRUCTION IN LOCAL DISTRICT 3. AND
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE NEW PRINCIPAL WHO IS MISS IVY KASS
OF MARVIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE ALSO TO
INTRODUCE THE TEACHER WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING THIS
PROGRAM AT MARVIN. WE DO HAVE A $100,000 FITNESS CENTER, IT'S
ONE OF A KIND. IT'S THE ONLY ONE IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA
WHO RECEIVED THE FITNESS CENTER AND IT ALLOWS THE STUDENTS TO
EXERCISE EVERY DAY AT THE SCHOOL. SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE
MISS HELGA DIAZI [PH?] AS THE PERSON WHO INSTRUMENTED THE
AWARD. [APPLAUSE.]
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HELGA DIAZI: THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. AND THANK YOU,
SUPERVISOR BURKE, FOR INVITING US HERE AND TO RECOGNIZE OUR
EFFORTS AND OUR ACCOMPLISHMENT BECAUSE WE AT MARVIN
ELEMENTARY, WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
OUR CHILDREN TO BE HEALTHY AND FIT, TO BE ABLE TO LEARN. SO WE
ARE VERY PROUD THAT WITH THE HELP OF GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER'S
FITNESS CHALLENGE, WE CAN NOW INTRODUCE OUR CHILDREN TO A
BRAND NEW GYM AND ACCOMPLISH OUR GOAL. THANK YOU.
SUP. BURKE: THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATIONS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IF I CAN ASK JOANNE KUMOMOTO TO COME
FORWARD AND MARSHA NAVE, ARE THEY HERE? AND A NUMBER OF OTHERS
WHO ARE HERE. THOSE TWO ARE FROM. CONNECT L.A. ANNE VULMER AND
CARL COOPER FROM LOS ANGELES CITY DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION AND
PARKS. SCOTT MATSUDA OF THE LOS ANGELES UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT, AND OUR COUNTY OF-- AND ROBIN TOMA, THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION, IN RECOGNITION OF
"TEENS MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY," WHICH WE ARE PROCLAIMING TODAY.
THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES IS COMMITTED TO ENCOURAGING AND
SUPPORTING EFFORTS TO INVOLVE TEENS IN VOLUNTEER AND COMMUNITY
SERVICE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND TO CREATING OPPORTUNITIES
THAT INCREASE THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION OF OTHER
RACES AND CULTURES CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S HUMAN
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RELATIONS COMMISSION'S "ZERO HOUR, THE TIME TO ACT NOW" YOUTH
INITIATIVE. THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION IS THE SPONSOR AND
COORDINATOR OF "TEENS MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY" IN 2007 WITH
CONNECT L.A., A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, COMMITTED TO BRINGING
DIVERSE COMMUNITIES AND CONSTITUENCIES TOGETHER THROUGH SHARED
PROJECTS, RESOURCE AND EXPERTISE AS WELL AS THE LOS ANGELES
CITY DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION AND PARTS, THE L.A. JUNIOR
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, POSEIDON SCHOOL, THE L.A. UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT, L.A.U.S.D.B. BEYOND THE BELL BRANCH AND THE
CONSERVATION CORPS "CLEAN AND GREEN" PROGRAM. SATURDAY,
OCTOBER 27TH, THOUSANDS OF TEENS WILL PARTICIPATE IN SELF-
INITIATED VOLUNTEER AND COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS AT MORE
THAN 100 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, PARKS, COMMUNITY AND SENIOR
CENTERS AND OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT LOS ANGELES COUNTY AS
PART OF THE NATIONAL MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY. TEEN-LED PROJECTS WILL IMPROVE THEIR APPRECIATION OF
SERVICE TO OTHERS AND EXPAND THEIR AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE
OF VOLUNTEER, PUBLIC SERVICE AND IMPROVING THEIR COMMUNITY,
AND STRENGTHENING INTER-GROUP RELATIONS, WHILE LEARNING MORE
ABOUT THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION "ZERO HOUR" YOUTH
INITIATIVE AND "NO HATERS HERE" CAMPAIGN. THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THAT
"TEENS MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY" IN THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES AS
OCTOBER 27TH, 2007 AND URGE ALL TEENS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO
SUPPORT AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS EFFORT. WHO AM I GOING TO
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PRESENT THIS TO? WHO IS ACCEPTING? I'LL GIVE IT TO ROBIN TOMA,
ON BEHALF OF ALL THE PARTICIPANTS REPRESENTED HERE AND THOSE
WHO COULD NOT BE HERE. ROBIN?
ROBIN TOMA: THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY AND ALL THE
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. AS PART OF "TEENS
MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY" THIS SATURDAY, AFRICAN-AMERICAN LATINO
TEEN VOLUNTEERS AT THE EAST RANCHO DOMINGUEZ PARK DECIDED TO
SPEND THIS SATURDAY TO FEED WHAT THEY SAW AS THE INCREASING
NUMBER OF HOMELESS, PEOPLE HOMELESS IN COMPTON. ANOTHER GROUP
OF TEENS WILL BE DOING AN ARTS AND CRAFTS WORKSHOP WITH
SENIORS AT THE MORLINDA NURSING HOME IN LINWOOD, BRIDGING THE
GENERATION GAP. AND I'M ESPECIALLY PLEASED TO SAY THAT BOTH
CAME ABOUT THROUGH THE L.A. COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND
RECREATION. WE HAVE THE HEAD OF THAT DEPARTMENT, RUSS GUINEY,
HERE WITH US TODAY. I WANT TO THANK HIM AND HIS STAFF FOR
THOSE PROJECTS THEY PUT TOGETHER. THESE ARE JUST BUT TWO
EXAMPLES. THIS SATURDAY THERE WILL BE THOUSANDS OF TEENS
THROUGHOUT L.A. COUNTY VOLUNTEERING TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY
NEEDS. AND WE KNOW AT THE COMMISSION THAT THE YOUTH WORK THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS GOING TO ENABLE THEM TO CONNECT
WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO THEY MAY NOT OFTEN CONNECT WITH, THE
HOMELESS, SENIORS, OTHERS FROM DIFFERENT RACIAL AND CULTURAL
GROUPS, AND WE KNOW FROM THAT SINGLE EXPERIENCE THEY CAN
DEVELOP GREATER EMPATHY, COMPASSION FOR OTHERS, THINGS THAT
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ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF EMOTIONAL AND SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE. AND
THEY CAN ALSO SEE THAT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, NOT TO MENTION
THAT IT FEELS GOOD, TOO. SO WHEN WE HEARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE
PART OF A NATIONAL MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY, TO FOCUS ON TEENS IN
L.A. COUNTY, WE DECIDED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE. BUT AS IN SO
MUCH OF OUR WORK, WITHOUT PARTNERS, WITHOUT COLLABORATION,
THIS YEAR'S "TEENS MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY" WOULD NOT BE
POSSIBLE. THE NONPROFIT CONNECT L.A. FOUNDED THE FIRST "TEENS
MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY" LAST YEAR WHICH RECEIVED NATIONAL
RECOGNITION. THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO PROVIDE IMPORTANT SUPPORT
THIS YEAR AS COORDINATION OF THE INITIATIVE HAS TRANSITIONED
TO THE HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION. CONNECT L.A. COFOUNDERS
MARJORIE MATSUSHITA AND ELLEN LINSLEY COULD NOT JOIN US, BUT
JOANNE KUMOMOTO AND MARSHA NAVE ARE HERE REPRESENTING CONNECT
L.A. AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR VISION, LEADERSHIP AND
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE.] L.A. CITY RECREATION AND PARKS
WAS A DRIVING FORCE LAST YEAR, AND THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO
PRODUCE THE MOST TEEN VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS
THIS YEAR. THEY ALSO UNDERWROTE T-SHIRTS AND ALSO OTHER ITEMS
FOR THE TEENS VOLUNTEERING FOR THIS PROJECT. AND THE MOST
INSTRUMENTAL TO THE SUCCESS OF "TEENS MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY"
IS ANNE VULMER AND CARL COOPER FROM L.A.'S DEPARTMENT OF
RECREATION PARKS. THEY GIVE THEIR HEART AND SOUL TO THE YOUTH
IN THIS PROGRAM. I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM, AS WELL.
[APPLAUSE.] L.A. UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED
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THE FUNDING FOR THESE "TEENS MAKE A DIFFERENCE" T-SHIRTS FOR
OVER 1,000 VOLUNTEERS. AND THIS IS THE T-SHIRT. NOW, THE T-
SHIRTS PROMOTE ZERO.COM OUR YOUTH ANTIPREJUDICE WEBSITE AND
REPRESENTING L.A.U.S.D. IS SCOTT MATSUDA WHO WILL TAKE OUR
SINCERE THANKS AND APPRECIATION BACK TO THE STUDENT HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES . DIVISION OF L.A.U.S.D. THANK YOU, SCOTT.
[APPLAUSE.] AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE JUAN
HUESO, A RECENT GRADUATE OF U.C.L.A., WHO ACCEPTED THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF PROGRAM COORDINATOR FOR "TEENS MAKE A
DIFFERENCE DAY 2007" AS A VOLUNTEER INTERN WITH THE HUMAN
RELATIONS COMMISSION. HE DESERVES MUCH OF THE CREDIT FOR THE
SUCCESS OF THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM. THANK YOU, JUAN. [APPLAUSE.]
FINALLY, THANK YOU, SUPERVISORS FOR YOUR CRITICAL SUPPORT OF
THIS IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR. THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SUPERVISOR KNABE? ANY PRESENTATIONS?
SUP. KNABE: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO ASK ASSISTANT
SUPERINTENDENT MARY SIEU FROM THE A.B.C. UNIFIED SCHOOL
DISTRICT TO JOIN ME UP HERE AS WELL AS OUR D.C.F.S. DIRECTOR
TRISH PLOEHN, CHIEF PROBATION OFFICER, CHIEF TAYLOR, FROM HELP
LINE YOUTH COUNSELING, DEBBY MAU, AND LAURA CRAVENS FROM THE
COMMUNITY GUIDANCE CENTER ALONG WITH OTHER OUTSTANDING STAFF
MEMBERS. WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING EARLIER ABOUT COLLABORATION.
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THIS IS PROBABLY AGAIN SPEAKING OF COLLABORATIONS ONE OF THE
GREAT EXAMPLES OF TEAMWORK IN COLLABORATION WITH ONE GOAL IN
MIND AND THAT'S TO HELP CHILDREN STAY FOCUSED ON SCHOOL. AND
THAT IS OUR "SAFE SCHOOLS, HEALTHY STUDENTS" PROGRAM. AT
PHARIS FEDDE IN THE CITY OF HAWAIIAN GARDENS, THIS PROGRAM HAS
MADE A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF MANY STUDENTS AND
THEIR FAMILIES. THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE
TEAM, WHICH IS COLLOCATED AT THE SCHOOL. THIS TEAM
INCORPORATES THE BEST PRACTICES OF EDUCATION, LOCAL LAW
ENFORCEMENT, MENTAL HEALTH AGENCIES, SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES
TO FOCUS THEIR EFFORTS AND PROVIDE ON SITE ASSISTANCE. THE
COMMUNITY RESOURCE TEAM IS COMPOSED OF STAFF REPRESENTING FIVE
DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE ALL UP HERE WITH ME TODAY.
TOGETHER, THEY HAVE BECOME A TRUE RESOURCE TO FAMILIES BY
PROVIDING RESOURCES AS WELL AS ADVOCACY IN A VERY MULTIPLE
DISCIPLINARY WAY AT SITE ON AT THE SCHOOL. AT THE PAST 12
MONTHS, WE ARE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THE TEAM HAS AN ASSISTED
OVER 440 FAMILIES WITH A WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES DESIGNED TO
BUILD ON THE STRENGTH OF EACH FAMILY THEY COME INTO CONTACT
WITH AND ALSO TO HELP PREPARE THOSE CHILDREN FOR SCHOOL. SO WE
THANK THE INDIVIDUAL TEAM MEMBERS UPSTAIRS, BUT WE ALSO WANT
TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE THE VARIOUS AGENCIES FOR THEIR
INCREDIBLE EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF CHILDREN'S FAMILIES
HERE IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY. SO A HEARTFELT THANKS TO THE
PARTNERS OF A.B.C. UNIFIED, PROBATION D.C.F.S., COMMUNITY
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FAMILY GUIDANCE CENTER AND THE OTHERS. SO WE APPRECIATE THAT
VERY, VERY MUCH. SO, FIRST OF ALL, MARY, I'M GOING TO PRESENT
YOU THE SCROLL FOR PHARIS FEDDE MIDDLE SCHOOL, NOT MIDI
SCHOOL. MIDDLE. ALL RIGHT. FROM HELPLINE. AND COMMUNITY AND
FAMILY GUIDANCE. CHIEF, TRISH, YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?
TRISH PLOEHN: ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT CHILDREN AND FAMILY
SERVICES, I JUST WANT TO THANK SUPERVISOR KNABE AND THE BOARD
FOR HONORING THIS TEAM. IT IS A GREAT TEAM. IT IS A WONDERFUL
COLLABORATIVE. AND EVERY DAY THEY HELP AT-RISK CHILDREN TO
STAY IN SCHOOL AND TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND ON BEHALF OF MYSELF,
I THANK ALL OF THEM.
ROBERT TAYLOR: I, TOO, WANT TO THANK SUPERVISOR KNABE FOR
RECOGNIZING THIS GROUP AND ITS VALIANT EFFORTS. I THINK THAT
REALLY IT SHOWS WHAT A COLLABORATIVE CAN DO AND SHOULD DO. I
ALSO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TRISH PLOEHN BECAUSE I THINK THAT
THIS REALLY FURTHER ILLUSTRATES THE RELATIONSHIP AND THE
PARTNERSHIP THAT OUR TWO DEPARTMENTS HAVE. THANK YOU.
SUP. KNABE: ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT MARY SIEU.
MARY SIEU: ON BEHALF OF A.B.C. UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, IT'S
WITH GREAT HONOR TO ACCEPT THIS RECOGNITION FROM SUPERVISOR
KNABE'S OFFICE AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TODAY. WE ALL KNOW
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THE OLD ADAGE THAT IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO EDUCATE AND TO RAISE
A CHILD. IN A.B.C., IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE TAKEN A
VILLAGE TEAM OF CLINICIANS, MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALISTS AND LAW
ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS IN ORDER TO WORK WITH THE MOST AT RISK
YOUTH AND FAMILIES. AND AS SUPERVISOR KNABE HAS SAID EARLIER,
IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK AS A TEAM
WITH OVER 453 FAMILIES. AND WE BELIEVE THIS TYPE OF WORK CAN
BE A MODEL FOR OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN WORKING WITH OTHER
AGENCIES TO WORK TOWARDS THE BETTERMENT OF FAMILIES AND
CHILDREN WHO REALLY NEED HELP. THE KIND OF SERVICES THAT WE
HAVE BEEN PROVIDING HAVE BEEN DIRECT SERVICES FOR FAMILIES
WITH CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN PERHAPS SUICIDAL, MENTALLY
DEPRESSED, WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN GANGS, WHO HAVE BEEN
CHRONICALLY BEHAVIORAL ISSUES AT SCHOOLS. AND OUR TEAM HAS
BEEN ABLE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THESE FAMILIES
AND THESE CHILDREN. AND SO IT'S WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT WE
ARE RECOGNIZED AND HONORED HERE TODAY AT THIS MEETING. I'D
LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK EACH OF THE FOUR AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE
WORKED WITH: HELPLINE YOUTH COUNSELING, THE LOS ANGELES
PROBATION DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY FAMILY GUIDANCE CENTER AND OF
COURSE D.C.F.S. WE HAVE OUR GREAT NEW COORDINATOR, TERRY VILLA
MCDOWELL WHO HAS WORKED WITH US DURING THIS PAST YEAR TO
REALLY STRENGTHEN THIS PARTNERSHIP AND TO HELP TO SUSTAIN US
BEYOND THE CYCLE OF OUR GRANT. AND SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR THIS WONDERFUL RECOGNITION. [APPLAUSE.]
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SUP. KNABE: I WOULD JUST ADD -- AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, MARY,
AND THANK YOU TO A.B.C. UNIFIED FOR BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH
ALL OUR COUNTY AGENCIES. SO MANY TIMES WE JUST DO A
PRESENTATION AND WE SEE SCROLLS BEING PRESENTED TO THESE
INDIVIDUALS, INDIVIDUALLY DID THEM UPSTAIRS. BUT THIS PROGRAM
IS SO MUCH MORE THAN SCROLLS. AND WHEN I SPEAK IN TERMS OF 440
PLUS FAMILIES, IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT IT'S A HUGE
NUMBER. THE IMPACTS ON FAMILY AND CHILDREN, AND THESE AGENCIES
COMING TOGETHER AND THE DIFFERENCE THAT THESE PIECES OF PAPER
THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING THEM WITH TODAY, HAVE MADE SUCH A
DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THESE FAMILIES. AND SO I KNOW I
SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES, AS WELL, TO THANK YOU ALL
FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE EFFORTS. AND JUST KNOW THAT WE KNOW THAT
YOU ARE TRULY MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF FAMILIES AND
KIDS HERE IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE.]
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IS THAT YOUR LAST ONE, DON? DON, IS THAT
YOUR LAST ONE? OKAY.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WE HAVE A LITTLE CHIHUAHUA MIX. THIS IS A
LITTLE GIRL. SHE'S A YEAR OLD. HER NAME IS CANDY. SO ANYBODY
WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT CANDY IN THE AUDIENCE, YOU CAN CALL THE
TELEPHONE NUMBER. 562-728-4644 OR ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
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WOULD LIKE LITTLE CANDY. SEE ANYBODY OUT THERE? ABOUT A YEAR
OLD. SEE? SO IT WOULD MAKE A NICE THANKSGIVING GIFT.
SUP. KNABE: LOOK AT THIS.
SUP. ANTONOVICH DO YOU WANT TO GO SEE UNCLE DON? UNCLE DON'S
GOT GRANDCHILDREN?
>>SUP. KNABE: DON JUST HOLDS THEM AND PETS THEM. THAT'S IT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: JUST HOLD AND PET. DON'T WANT TO CLEAN UP THE
LITTLE TREATS? OKAY.
SUP. BURKE: WE START WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ON THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, ITEMS 1
THROUGH 8, ALL THOSE WHO PLAN TO TESTIFY BEFORE THE BOARD,
PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN. IN THE
TESTIMONY YOU MAY GIVE OF THIS ABOUT BOARD, DO YOU SOLEMNLY
AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE
TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. WE WILL
START WITH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER 1. AND I'LL READ THE
SHORT TITLE IN FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS A HEARING ON THE
ANNEXATION OF APPROVED TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION TERRITORIES TO
COUNTY LIGHTING MAINTENANCE DISTRICT 1687 AND 1697 AND COUNTY
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LIGHTING DISTRICT L.L.A.-1, UNINCORPORATED IN CARSON ZONES AND
LEVYING OF ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2008-2009. NO WRITTEN
CORRESPONDENCE IS PRESENTED ON THIS MATTER, AND THERE IS A
STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS.
RANDINE RUIZ: MY NAME IS RANDINE RUIZ AND I'M A SENIOR CIVIL
ENGINEER FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS. I'M FAMILIAR WITH
THESE PROCEEDINGS FOR THE ANNEXATION TO THE LIGHTING
MAINTENANCE DISTRICTS 1687 AND 1697 IN L.L.A.- 1
UNINCORPORATED ZONE AND CARSON ZONE, AND THE LEVYING AND
COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENT FOR THE FOUR TENTATIVE SUBDIVISIONS
REFERENCED IN THE BOARD LETTER. THE CONSENT AND JURISDICTION
THE CITY OF CARSON HAS BEEN OBTAINED FOR THE ONE TENTATIVE
SUBDIVISION WITHIN THAT CITY. IN MY OPINION, THE TENTATIVE
SUBDIVISIONS WILL BE BENEFITED BY THE ANNEXATION AND THE
SERVICE TO BE PROVIDED AND THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS HAVE BEEN
SPREAD IN PROPORTION TO BENEFIT. WE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT
YOUR BOARD ACCEPT THE NEGOTIATED EXCHANGE OF PROPERTY TAX
REVENUES FOR THE NONEXEMPT TAXING AGENCIES.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: MR. CHAIRMAN, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT
THIS TIME TO CLOSE THE HEARING, DIRECT THE TABULATION OF
BALLOTS AND TABLE THE ITEM UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING FOR
TABULATION RESULTS AND ACTION BY YOUR BOARD.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. I'LL MOVE THAT WE HOLD THIS
ON THE TABLE TILL THE VOTES ARE TABULATED. BURKE SECONDS,
WITHOUT OBJECTION. IT WILL BE TABLED FOR NOW. IT WILL BE HELD
ON THE TABLE FOR NOW.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NUMBER 2. THIS IS THE HEARING ON
EXCLUSION OF PARCEL W37-07 FROM THE CONSOLIDATED SEWER AND
MAINTENANCE DISTRICT LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF LANCASTER AND
THE CONTINUANCE AND RE-ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CONSOLIDATED SEWER
MAINTENANCE DISTRICT. NO WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE WAS PRESENTED
ON THIS MATTER AND THERE IS A STAFF PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT, STAFF? IDENTIFY YOURSELF,
PLEASE.
KEITH LATO: MY NAME IS KEITH LATO, I'M A PRINCIPAL ENGINEER
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF WORKS. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THESE
PROCEEDINGS FOR THE EXCLUSION OF PARCEL W37-07 IN THE
CONSOLIDATED SEWER MAINTENANCE DISTRICT. PARCEL W37-07
COMPRISES ALL PORTIONS OF THE CITY OF LANCASTER WHICH ARE
CURRENTLY WITHIN THE DISTRICT. THE EXCLUSION WAS REQUESTED BY
THE CITY. IN MY OPINION, THE AREA SOUGHT TO BE EXCLUDED WILL
NOT BE BENEFITED BY REMAINING IN THE DISTRICT AND THE AREAS
REMAINING IN THE DISTRICT, FOLLOWING THE EXCLUSION, WILL BE
BENEFITED BY CONTINUING TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
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ALTHOUGH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY HAVE REQUESTED THAT IT
RECEIVE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE FUNDS HELD BY THE
DISTRICT, THE APPLICABLE LAW PROVIDES THAT UPON EXCLUSION OF
ANY AREA FROM THE DISTRICT, ALL PROPERTY ACQUIRED FOR THE
DISTRICT SHALL REMAIN VESTED IN THE COUNTY TO BE USED FOR THE
PURPOSES OF THE DISTRICT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT
WANTS TO BE HEARD ON ITEM NUMBER 2? IF NOT, PUBLIC HEARING IS
CLOSED. WE HAVE THE ITEM BEFORE US. SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH
MOVES, BURKE SECONDS; WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NUMBER 3. THIS IS THE HEARING ON
APPROVAL OF BILLING RATE CHANGES BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
SERVICES FOR PHYSICIAN SERVICES RENDERED TO MEDICARE AND
PRIVATE INSURANCE PATIENTS AT MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. HARBOR
HOSPITAL. TRANSFER AND APPROVAL OF RATES FOR OUTPATIENT
SERVICES AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. MULTISERVICE
AMBULATORY CARE CENTER, AND ADOPTION OF CERTAIN INPATIENT
SURGERY RATES AT RANCHO LOS AMIGOS NATIONAL REHABILITATION
CENTER. NO WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE WAS PRESENTED ON THIS
MATTER, AND THERE IS NOT A STAFF PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IS THERE ANYBODY ON THIS IN THE AUDIENCE
THAT WANTS TO BE HEARD ON ITEM 3? SEEING NONE, THE PUBLIC
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HEARING IS CLOSED. MISS BURKE MOVES, MISS MOLINA SECONDS;
WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE. ITEM 4?
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NUMBER 4. THIS IS THE HEARING ON
AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY CODE TITLE 2 ADMINISTRATION RELATING
TO THE REGISTRATION AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS OF COUNTY
LOBBYISTS, COUNTY LOBBYIST FIRMS, COUNTY LOBBYIST EMPLOYERS
AND OTHER PERSONS OR ENTITIES AND TO INCREASE FEES AND
PENALTIES IMPOSED. NO WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE WAS PRESENTED ON
THIS MATTER, AND THERE IS NO STAFF PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MR. SACHS?
ARNOLD SACHS: THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, COUNTY SUPERVISORS. I
WAS ON MY WAY UP WHEN I HEARD THE NUMBER CALLED. AND ALSO,
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR DISTRICTS FIGHTING THE FIRES. I JUST WANTED
TO COMMENT ABOUT THIS. ALTHOUGH THERE IS NOTHING MENTIONED
ABOUT-- THERE'S SOMETHING MENTIONED ABOUT THE LOBBYISTS,
THERE'S NOTHING MENTIONED ABOUT-- LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY.
THERE WAS A SITUATION EARLIER THIS YEAR. THERE WAS A LOBBYIST
WHO HAD A PROJECT BEFORE THE BOARD AND IT WAS A FAMILY MEMBER.
AND THERE'S NOTHING ADDRESSING THAT PROBLEM, THAT SITUATION
WHERE OF A FAMILY MEMBER OR RELATIVE OR ANY KIND OF NEPOTISM
THAT IT INVOLVED IN LOBBYISTS, THAT IF THEY'RE REPRESENTING
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THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF SITUATION WHERE THE SUPERVISORS
STEP ASIDE AND NOT HEAR THE EVENT THAT'S TO BE DECIDED BY THE
COUNTY BOARD. IT'S VERY UNFAIR TO THE PUBLIC WHEN A SITUATION
LIKE THAT ARISES. AND NOTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE ADDRESSES
THAT. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT THE SITUATION REGARDING THAT WILL
BE AND HOW THAT BE RESOLVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO BE
HEARD? IF NOT, PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. WE HAVE THE ITEM
BEFORE US. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IF NOT, BURKE MOVES,
MOLINA SECONDS; WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NUMBER 5. THIS IS A HEARING ON
AMENDMENT TO THE COUNTY CODE TITLE 15, VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC
RELATING TO THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN STREETS IN
UNINCORPORATED EL CAMINO VILLAGE TO EL CAMINO PREFERENTIAL
PARKING DISTRICT NO. 1 AND IMPOSITION OF A PERMIT FEE WITHIN
THE ANNEXED AREAS. NO WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE WAS PRESENTED ON
THIS MATTER, AND THERE IS NO STAFF PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
WANTS TO BE HEARD ON THIS ITEM? IF NOT, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS
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SUP. ANTONOVICH: SOMEBODY HAD SIGNED UP. BUT IF THEY DON'T DO
IT THE NEXT MEETING-- OKAY, THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THIS IS ITEM 5.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: YES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: I'LL MOVE TO CONTINUE IT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO, THAT'S ITEM 6.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: THAT'S ITEM 6. WE'RE ON ITEM 5.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: OKAY, I'LL MOVE IT, THEN.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY, IT'S MOVED BY ANTONOVICH, SECOND
BY BURKE; WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE. ITEM NO. 6.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NO. 6, THIS IS HEARING ON AMENDMENT TO
COUNTY CODE TITLE 15, VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC RELATING TO THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE SAN PASQUAL PREFERENTIAL PARKING DISTRICT
NO. 1, IN THE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY OF SAN PASQUAL, AND
IMPOSITION OF A PERMIT FEE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO BE HEARD. AND THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED FOR
FIVE WEEKS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS BEING HEARD. SO IF YOU
WANT TO BE HEARD IN FIVE WEEKS, YOU CAN WAIVE YOUR RIGHT, YOUR
DESIRE TO BE HEARD TODAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD TODAY,
YOU WILL BE. I'LL CALL YOUR NAMES IN THE ORDER I HAVE THEM.
KIM LUNETTA. I'M GOING TO CALL FOUR NAMES, IF YOU COULD COME
UP HERE IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD TODAY. KIM LUNETTA KARINA
EDMONDS, RACHAEL MARTINEZ INCLAN, AND SARAH RUDCHENKO. AND
YOU'LL EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES. MISS LUNETTA? GOOD MORNING.
YOU'RE ON.
KIM LUNETTA: MY NAME IS KIM LUNETTA, AND I AM A NEIGHBOR OF
THE AFFECTED AREA AND A PARENT AND VOLUNTEER OF HAMILTON
ELEMENTARY. THE PROPOSED PERMIT PARKING AROUND OUR SCHOOL WILL
GREATLY AFFECT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN. THERE ARE 120 PRE-K
AND KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS AT THE SCHOOL THAT NEED TO BE WALKED
IN, DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP INSIDE THE CLASSROOM. BY NOT
ALLOWING PARENTS TO PARK AROUND THE SCHOOL, THEY WILL HAVE TO
PARK FOUR TO FIVE BLOCKS AWAY AND CROSS BUSY INTERSECTIONS,
INCLUDING DELMAR BOULEVARD, WHICH HAS OVER 17,000 CARS A DAY
DRIVE BY. SITTING IN THIS MEETING TODAY WHERE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN AWARDS FOR CHILDREN'S HEALTH AND
SAFETY. I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS DECISION WOULD BE EASY.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: LET ME ASK EACH ONE BEFORE YU SPEAK. DO YOU
LIVE WITHIN THE AREA? OR DO YOU LIVE OUTSIDE THE AREA? I MEAN
WHEN YOU SPEAK.
KIM LUNETTA: I LIVE A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE AFFECTED AREA, SO MY
AREA WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE CARS THAT ARE PUSHED OUT. BUT I
DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE PARKING IN MY
FRONT YARD. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MISS EDMONDS.
KARINA EDMONDS: KARINA EDMONDS. I LIVE A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE
PROPOSED AREA. I JUST WANT THE MENTION THAT -- I WANT TO GIVE
SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT IS NOT EVIDENT FROM THE
PETITION. ONE IS THAT THE SCHOOL RECENTLY CELEBRATED ITS 80TH
ANNIVERSARY. THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN THERE FOR 80 YEARS. THAT
MEANS THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT PURCHASED HOMES IN THAT AREA KNEW
THAT DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, THERE WOULD BE INCREASED TRAFFIC
AND PARKING. IN FACT, THE ONLY TIME THERE IS INCREASED PARKING
ISSUES IS HALF HOUR DURING DROP-OFF AND HALF HOUR DURING
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PICKUP TIME. I VOLUNTEER AT THE SCHOOL, AS WELL. AND I NEVER
HAVE A PROBLEM FINDING PARKING. THERE'S PLENTY OF OPEN SPACES
THERE. LIKE KIM, I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE
CHILDREN. UNFORTUNATELY, WE LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE MOST
OF THE KIDS THAT ATTEND THE SCHOOL CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I FEEL THAT A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS IN
THE AREA DON'T REALLY RELATE TO THE STUDENT POPULATION, AND AS
SUCH, DO NOT SYMPATHIZE WITH THOSE FAMILIES. LET'S SEE, AND AS
KIM MENTIONED, EVERYBODY THAT GOT AN AWARD HERE EARLIER TODAY
MENTIONED SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS, SUPPORTING OUR CHILDREN.
AND THIS PARKING RESTRICTION GOES AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT
EVERYONE SPOKE ABOUT THIS MORNING. YOU KNOW, THEY TALK ABOUT
THIS IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A HOME
EQUITY ISSUE BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE NOW FEEL THAT IF THEY HAD
PREFERENTIAL PARKING IN THAT AREA, THEIR HOMES WOULD BE MORE
VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED PARKING. AGAIN,
THIS WAS STARTED BY A HANDFUL NEIGHBOR, AGAIN THAT DON'T
SUPPORT THE SCHOOL, DON'T SUPPORT THE CHILDREN THAT GO TO THE
SCHOOL AND HAVE NO INTEREST IN EVER HAVING THEIR CHILDREN
THERE. I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO CHILDREN THAT ATTEND THE SCHOOL.
AND IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE HAD A LOT MORE NEIGHBORS
STARTING TO USE THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE BEST
SCHOOLS IN PASADENA FOR ELEMENTARY, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF
THAT AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. LET'S SEE, AND, AGAIN,
ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS FROM THE NEIGHBOR HAS BEEN THAT WE CUT
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BACK OUR OPEN PLAY AREA FOR THE KIDS. AND AGAIN WITH THIS AGE
OF OBESITY AND DIABETES OF OUR CHILDREN, WHY WOULD WE EVER
CONSIDER CUTTING BACK THE LIMITED PLAY AREA THAT WE HAVE?
AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY
BECAUSE IN FIVE WEEKS, I WILL PROBABLY BE DELIVERING. SO I
JUST WANT EVERYONE-- I HOPE THAT YOU WILL REMEMBER MY COMMENTS
AND VOTE AGAINST THIS AWFUL PERMIT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANKS, MISS EDMONDS. MISS INCLAN?
RACHEL MARTINEZ INCLAN: GOOD MORNING, SUPERVISORS ANTONOVICH,
MOLINA, BURKE, KNABE AND YAROSLAVSKY. MY NAME IS RACHAEL
MARTINEZ INCLAN AND I HAVE LIVED AT 377 SOUTH OAK AVENUE FOR
ABOUT 13 YEARS. AND I LIVE IN THE PROPOSED PREFERENTIAL
PARKING DISTRICT. IN AUGUST OF 2006, I RECEIVED A NOTICE ON MY
DOOR FROM A NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES IN THE AREA THAT WAS INCLUDED
IN THE ORIGINAL PETITION TO THE COUNTY FOR A PREFERENTIAL
PARKING DISTRICT. THE NOTICE WAS ABOUT A MEETING TO DISCUSS
THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PARKING DISTRICT. AT THE TIME I
DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA THAT THIS WAS GOING ON. AND IT WAS
LITERALLY ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM MY FRONT DOOR. EXCUSE ME ONE
HOUSE AWAY FROM MY FRONT DOOR. SO I WENT TO THAT MEETING AND I
WAS SHOCKED AT HOW ANGRY SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WERE ABOUT THIS
PARKING PROBLEM. THEY'RE ANGRY AT THE SCHOOL, PARENTS -- AND
OF ALL PEOPLE, CHILDREN. SOME TALKED ABOUT HAVING 6 A.M. TO 6
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P.M. NO PARKING. ONE PERSON EVEN PROPOSED 24-HOUR NO PARKING
WITHOUT A PERMIT. AND HE WAS SERIOUS. THEY WANTED TO SEND A
REAL MESSAGE AND GET EVEN. AND THEY WERE GOING TO USE THE
SYSTEM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. EVEN THOUGH MY HOME WAS NOT INCLUDED
IN THE PETITION AT THAT TIME, I SPOKE TO THEM AND PROPOSED A
TWO-HOUR PARKING LIMIT SO THAT PEOPLE COULD GET THEIR KIDS TO
SCHOOL, PICK THEM UP AND DONATE TIME TO THE SCHOOL. AND IT WAS
LIKE I PROPOSED SOMETHING THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. YOU
KNOW, I FOUND OUT AT THE MEETING WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND HOW
TO GET MY STREET INVOLVED AND I SPOKE TO CHRIS SHEPHERD ABOUT
GETTING MY STREET INCLUDED WHICH WE DID. WE THOUGHT IT MEANT
THAT WE HAD A VOTE IN THE HOURS AND THE DAYS. WE RECEIVED A
NOTICE FROM THE COUNTY OFFICE OF WORKS, DICTATING TO US WHAT
THE HOURS AND DAYS WERE GOING TO BE. AND THE HOURS THAT
THEY'RE LISTING ARE NOT REALLY REASONABLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET
THEIR CHILDREN SAFELY TO AND FROM SCHOOL. AND I GUESS MY TIME
HAS EXPIRED.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: GO ON.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GO AHEAD.
RACHEL MARTINEZ INCLAN: SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE
PARAMETERS ARE NOT REASONABLE. AND THESE CHILDREN DEPEND ON
YOU FOR THEIR SAFETY. THEY REALLY DO. THESE PEOPLE HAVE FILED
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A PETITION. THEY'RE WORKING THE SYSTEM. AND THEY BELIEVE THAT
THEY'RE GOING TO JUST PUSH THIS THROUGH AND NOBODY HAS A
VOICE. AND I REALLY HOPE AND PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU WILL BE AN
ADVOCATE FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ATTEND THE SCHOOL DOWN THE
STREET FROM ME. THANK YOU.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PETITION SIGNED I
GUESS WITH 75 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE, WHICH BROUGHT IT TO WHERE
WE ARE TODAY. THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE HEARING. WE'RE
GOING TO CONTINUE IT SO THAT WE HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT BECAUSE
OF THE FIRE AND THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAVING ON YOUR COMMUNITY.
BUT THIS WILL BE THEN DISCUSSED AND --
RACHEL MARTINEZ INCLAN: CAN I JUST QUICKLY RESPOND TO THAT? I
SIGNED THE PETITION. I GOT MY STREET ON WITH THE PETITION IN
THE HOPES THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING REASONABLE, TWO-HOUR
PARKING. AND WHEN I RECEIVED THIS NOTICE FROM THE DEPARTMENT
OF PUBLIC WORKS SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE PERMITTED PARKING, NO
PARKING FOR PARENTS, NO PARKING FOR ANYBODY EXCEPT FOR
RESIDENTS FROM I THINK IT'S 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M., I WAS INCENSED.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO TO A VOTE SO RESIDENTS COULD VOTE
ON IT. I HAVE SPOKEN TO EVERYBODY AT YOUR OFFICE, AS A MATTER
OF FACT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THANK YOU.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. SARAH RUDCHENKO. BEFORE YOU
START, MISS RUDCHENKO, LET ME JUST CALL A COUPLE OF OTHER
FOLKS. RALPH RIVERA, CHRIS KARP AND NAMI PARK. OKAY.
SARAH RUDCHENKO: GOOD MORNING. I'M SARAH RUDCHENKO. I'M THE
PRINCIPAL OF HAMILTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE SERVE OVER 540
STUDENTS IN THE AREA. HAMILTON SCHOOL, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN
IN THAT LOCATION FOR 80 YEARS WITH NO ON SITE PARKING. TRUST
ME, MY TEACHERS WOULD PROBABLY LIKE IT IF THEY HAD A SAFE
PLACE TO PARK. BUT WE ARE DEPENDENT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
THE STREETS SURROUNDING THE SCHOOL FOR OUR PARKING. THE MAIN
CONCERN IS THE SAFETY OF THE STUDENTS. FORCING PEOPLE TO PARK
FURTHER AWAY FROM THE DESTINATION LEADS TO MORE STREET
CROSSINGS AND, THUS, PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICLE CONFLICTS IN THE
AREA, ADDITIONALLY FORCING PEOPLE TO WALK FURTHER TO SCHOOL,
MEANS IT WILL MAKE THEM TAKE THEM LONGER TO SCHOOL. AS WE
KNOW, PEOPLE, TRAFFIC AND PARENTS, POTENTIAL ACCIDENTS CAN
OCCUR. MOST OF THE STREETS IN THE PROPOSED AREAS ARE TWO-WAY
STOP SIGNS AND NOT FOUR-WAY STOP SIGNS WITHOUT ADEQUATE
CROSSWALKS, SO THAT'S OF CONCERN. IT POTENTIALLY DECREASES THE
VOLUNTEER TIME AT THE SCHOOL. COMMUNITIES AND PARENTS THAT
WANT TO VOLUNTEER AT THE SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WILL
HAVE TO PARK FURTHER AWAY. WHILE THAT MIGHT ONLY REPRESENT AN
ADDITIONAL 8 TO 10 MINUTES, THAT TIME STILL COULD BE BETTER
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USED READING TO A CHILD. PARENTS WHO TAKE TIME OFF TO
VOLUNTEER AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: REPEAT YOUR-- YOU SAID THE STOP SIGNS ARE
TWO-WAY, NOT FOUR-WAY?
SARAH RUDCHENKO: MOST OF THE STOP SIGNS IN THE AREA ARE TWO-
WAY STOP SIGNS. SO THERE'S A STOP SIGN ONLY EAST/WEST OR
NORTH/SOUTH. AND THEN THE CROSSWALKS, THERE'S ONLY TWO, NOT
FOUR, BASED ON THOSE STREET SIGNS. THERE ARE 120 KINDERGARTEN
AND PRE-K STUDENTS THAT NEED BY LAW BE WALKED BY A PARENT AND
DROPPED IN, SO THAT'S 120 PARENTS THAT NEED TO WALK THEIR
CHILDREN INTO SCHOOL AND ALSO PICK THEM UP INTO THE CLASSROOM.
NOW IS THE TIME TO SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION. THE PASADENA
COMMUNITY IS WORKING VERY HARD AT HAMILTON TO CREATE A
NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL AND BRING ECONOMIC LEVELS-- PEOPLE OF ALL
ECONOMIC LEVELS BACK. WE HAVE MADE TREMENDOUS STRIDES IN THE
PAST FEW YEARS WITH OUR A.P.I. SCORE WITH OVER 75 POINT GAIN
TO 823, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A MATH, SCIENCE
AND TECHNOLOGY ACADEMY. WE HAVE EXCELLENT PARENTS WHO ARE
SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL AND THE COMMUNITY IS RETURNING. SO WE'D
LIKE TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NEIGHBORS. I SYMPATHIZE.
I LIVE FIVE HOUSES FROM A SCHOOL MYSELF. I UNDERSTAND THE
PARKING CONCERNS. AGAIN, THE SCHOOL WAS THERE AND THE PEOPLE
THAT BOUGHT THEIR HOMES SAW THE SCHOOL. THERE ARE A FEW
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SOLUTIONS. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY SINCE JANUARY OF
2005. WE HAVE REDONE THE SIGNAGE IN SOME PARTS OF THE SCHOOL.
THE DISTRICT PROPOSED THREE DIFFERENT PARKING AREAS WITHIN THE
SCHOOL, TANDEM PARKING ON ONE OF THE STREETS ON SAN MORENO
AVENUE, EXPANDING THE EXISTING PARKING LOT ON ROSE VILLA. THE
NEIGHBORS DIDN'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD SEE THE
CARS. THAT WAS THE COMMENT FROM THAT PROPOSAL. PREFERENTIAL
PARKING FOR TEACHERS. THEY HAVE THIS IN PASADENA SO THAT THE
TEACHERS PARK ON OURS, LIKE ON THE SCHOOL SIDE OF THE STREET
AND THAT THERE WOULD BE LIKE A SIGN THERE SO THAT ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS IS THE NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY PARK ON THE SCHOOL SIDE OF
THE STREET WHERE THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE US TO PARK. I'D ALSO
ASKED FOR PARKING SPACES WITH THE LINES ON THE STREET SO THAT
WE COULD MAXIMIZE THE PARKING ON THE SCHOOL SIDES OF THE
STREET. ANYWAYS, IN ADDITION, I JUST THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AND WE'LL BE BACK IN A MONTH AND
HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TO SOME RESOLUTION WITH THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT AND THE NEIGHBORS TO BEST MEET THE NEEDS OF EVERYONE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: CHRIS KARP AND THEN NAMI PARK AND THEN
DICK BARNES. ARE YOU MR. KARP?
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CHRIS KARP: YES, HI.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU'RE ON.
CHRIS KARP: THANK YOU. I'M A FATHER OF THREE CHILDREN WHO
ATTEND HAMILTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS,
THIS SCHOOL HAS BECOME ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOLS IN PASADENA DUE
IN LARGE PART TO THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION OF TEACHERS AND
PARENTS WHO GIVE THEIR TIME AND ENERGY TO THE SCHOOL. I AM ONE
OF THE LUCKY FEW PARENTS THAT LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF
THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE AREA BOUNDARY IS UP TO 3-1/2
MILES AWAY FROM THE SCHOOL. SO MOST OF THE PARENTS NEED TO
DRIVE IN AND DROP OFF THEIR KIDS. SOME OF THESE PARENTS WAIT
IN THEIR CARS IN A FAIRLY ORDERLY LINE TO DROP OFF AND PICK UP
THEIR KIDS AT THE CURB. HOWEVER, MANY PARENTS PARK IN THE
STREETS AND WALK THEIR KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL. THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT. HAVING PARENTS WALK ONTO SCHOOL GROUNDS ENCOURAGES
INTERACTION BETWEEN PARENTS AND TEACHERS. IT INCREASES
PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT IN THE SCHOOL AND ALSO CUTS DOWN ON THE
TIME AND TRAFFIC THAT WOULD RESULT IF EVERYBODY WAITED IN
THEIR CARS TO DROP OFF OR PICK UP THEIR KIDS. MOST OF THE CARS
THAT ARE PARKED IN THE STREETS NEAR HAMILTON ARE NOT PARKED
FOR VERY LONG. PARENTS PARK FOR ABOUT A HALF HOUR IN THE
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OF THE DAY, THE STREETS ARE AT MOST HALFWAY FULL. AND MOST OF
THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED ALL DAY BELONG TO RESIDENTS OR
CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. CREATING A NO PARKING ZONE IN THIS AREA
WOULD DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CARS PARKED AROUND HAMILTON FOR
THOSE HALF HOUR PERIODS IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON. IT WOULD
ALSO, UNFORTUNATELY, DECREASE THE INVOLVEMENT OF MANY PARENTS
IN THE DAILY ACTIVITIES OF THE SCHOOL. AND IT WILL INCREASE
TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, INCREASE NOISE AND POLLUTION AND
INCREASE THE DANGER FOR THE KIDS AS MORE PEOPLE TRY TO JOCKEY
FOR POSITION IN THE PICKUP LINE. ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA I
READ FOR THIS MEETING, THE PARKING DISTRICT WILL, AND I QUOTE
"ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE AFFECTED COMMUNITY." I
STRONGLY DISAGREE. THE AFFECTED COMMUNITY IS MUCH LARGER THAN
JUST THE RESIDENTS ON A FEW STREETS NEAR THE SCHOOL. THE
SCHOOL ITSELF IS A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. PLEASE CONSIDER THE
SAFETY AND QUALITY OF EDUCATION OF THE 550 STUDENTS THAT
ATTEND HAMILTON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO
WANTS TO BE HEARD AT THIS TIME? I'LL TAKE IT MISS PARK AND MR.
BARNES WILL DEFER UNTIL NEXT FIVE WEEKS. SO WE'LL HOLD THEIR
CARDS FOR NEXT TIME. ALL RIGHT, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR TODAY
IS CLOSED. IT WILL BE REOPENED IN FIVE WEEKS. MR. ANTONOVICH?
MOVE CONTINUANCE AT THIS TIME?
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RICHARD WEISS, COUNSEL: MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT
YOU KEEP THE HEARING OPEN AND MERELY CONTINUE IT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I'M SORRY. KEEP IT OPEN. CONTINUE THE
HEARING UNTIL FIVE WEEKS FROM TODAY. MR. ANTONOVICH MOVES THE
ITEM BE CONTINUED FOR FIVE WEEKS. SECOND. AND WITHOUT
OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. THANK YOU, ALL, FOR COMING. ITEM NUMBER
7?
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NUMBER 7. THIS IS A HEARING TO
CONSIDER THE PROPOSED SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS LOCAL COASTAL
PROGRAM AND ITS LAND USE POLICY MAP AND ZONE CHANGE CASE WHICH
REPEALS THE 1986 MALIBU LAND USE PLAN, MAKING ZONING
CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE POLICY MAP AND AMENDS THE COUNTY
CODE TITLE 21, SUBDIVISIONS IN TITLE 22 PLANNING AND ZONING,
RELATING TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAIN
ZONES COASTAL COMMUNITY STANDARDS DISTRICT. THERE WAS WRITTEN
CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED ON THIS MATTER AND THERE IS A STAFF
PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT.
GINA NATOLI: EXCUSE ME, CLERK, COULD YOU OPEN THE CURTAINS?
THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR, SUPERVISORS, GOOD MORNING. I'M GINA
NATOLI AND THIS IS RON HOFFMAN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REGIONAL
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PLANNING. THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS LOCAL PROGRAMS BEFORE YOU
TODAY IS A RESULT OF A MULTI-YEAR EFFORT INVOLVING PLANNERS,
RESIDENTS, TECHNICAL SPECIALISTS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS,
ENGINEERS, EQUESTRIANS, PROPERTY OWNERS, LAND PRESERVATION
AGENCIES AND MANY OTHERS. THESE GROUPS AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE
MADE SUGGESTIONS THAT RESULTED IN CHANGES TO THE LOCAL COASTAL
PROGRAM, OR L.C.P. THIS L.C.P. REPRESENTS A BROAD CONSENSUS
FOR PLANNING IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. THE CALIFORNIA
COASTAL ACT OF 1976 ESTABLISHED A ZONE ALONG THE COAST WITHIN
WHICH DEVELOPMENT MUST OCCUR IN A MANNER THAT PROTECTS COASTAL
RESOURCES. IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS, THE COASTAL ZONE
EXTENDS INLAND FROM THE SHORE LINE 5 TO 6 MILES. EACH
JURISDICTION WITH TERRITORY IN THE COASTAL ZONE MUST ADOPT AND
HAVE CERTIFIED BY THE CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION AN L.C.P.
TO MANAGE AND REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF COASTAL RESOURCES
CONSISTENT WITH THE COASTAL ACT. A CERTIFIED L.C.P. HAS TWO
PARTS: A LAND USE PLAN AND AN IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM. BOTH
PARTS MUST BE CERTIFIED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION BEFORE A
LOCAL JURISDICTION IS GRANTED THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE COASTAL
DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. THE COUNTY HAS THREE AREAS IN THE COASTAL
ZONE: MARINA DEL REY, CATALINA ISLAND AND THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS. MARINA DEL REY AND SANTA CATALINA BOTH HAVE
CERTIFIED L.C.PS. THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS L.C.P. BEFORE YOU
TODAY IS A COMPLETE L.C.P. WITH A REVISED LAND USE PLAN AND A
FULL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM AS REQUIRED BY THE COASTAL ACT.
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I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME DETAILS ON TWO OF THE CHANGES THAT
STAFF HAD PROPOSED TO YOU IN THE PACKET THAT YOU RECEIVED, AND
THOSE ARE DETAILS ON THE DEFINITION FOR WILDLIFE PERMEABLE
FENCING AND BRIDGE DESIGN GUIDELINES. OUR INTENT FOR WILDLIFE
PERMEABLE FENCING WOULD BE THAT IT BE OF AN OPEN CONSTRUCTION
AND THAT IT BE MADE OF NONHAZARDOUS AND NATURAL OR NATURAL-
LOOKING MATERIALS. AND FOR THE BRIDGE DESIGN GUIDELINES, OUR
INTENT WOULD BE THAT THE STRUCTURE IS THE SMALLEST POSSIBLE
AND THAT IT USE, AGAIN, NATURAL OR NATURAL-LOOKING
CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND THAT LIGHTING BE LIMITED TO THAT
WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR SAFETY. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE
KEY COMPONENTS OF THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS L.C.P. FIRST, THE
FORMAT AND MUCH OF THE CONTENT ARE TAKEN FROM THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS NORTH AREA PLAN WHICH YOUR BOARD CERTIFIED IN 2000.
THE L.C.P. ALSO INCLUDES PARCEL-BASED LAND USE AND ZONING. AT
THIS POINT, THERE ARE MANY PARCELS IN THE COASTAL ZONE THAT
HAVE THREE, FOUR AND FIVE LAND USE CATEGORIES IN THEM. AND
THIS L.C.P. ALSO CONTAINS A ZONING CONSISTENCY PROGRAM. WE'RE
PROPOSING TWO NEW LAND USE CATEGORIES EXCLUSIVE TO THE SANTA
MONICA MOUNTAINS COASTAL ZONE. THOSE ARE RURAL VILLAGES AND
RURAL LANDS 40. THE RURAL VILLAGES CATEGORY IS APPLIED TO THE
14 ANTIQUATED SMALL LET SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN
THE COASTAL ZONE. AND IN THAT, BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES COULD BE FOUND CONSISTENT. AND
THIS IS TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE
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RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN A RELATIVELY RURAL AND ISOLATED AREA.
THE RURAL LANDS 40 CATEGORY, THE PRINCIPAL USE IS A SINGLE-
FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND THE MINIMUM REQUIRED AREA IS 40 ACRES
PER DWELLING UNIT. THIS IS APPLIED TO PRIVATE LANDS IN THE
THREE CLEANEST WATERSHEDS IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS, AND
THIS IS TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY. WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING ONE
NEW ZONE EXCLUSIVE TO THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS COASTAL ZONE,
AND THIS IS THE RURAL COASTAL ZONE. IT WOULD REPLACE THE A1,
A2, AND R.A. ZONES. THE PRINCIPAL PERMITTED USE IS A SINGLE-
FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT MANY OF THOSE A1, A2 AND R.A. USES WOULD
BE ALLOWED UNDER THE R.C. ZONE. AND WE'RE ADDING SOME NEW
USES. THE PRIVATE BACKYARD BOARDING OF HORSES, BED AND
BREAKFASTS AND RURAL INNS. AND I KNOW WITHIN THE PAST FEW
WEEKS, SOME OPPOSITION HAS BEEN RAISED CONCERNING THESE USES
THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING ALLOWING, AND I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT
VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS COASTAL ZONE LIES
WITHIN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS NATIONAL RECREATION AREA.
AND THESE USES, THE PRIVATE BOARDING OF HORSES, BED AND
BREAKFASTS AND RURAL INNS FACILITATE ACCESS TO COASTAL
RESOURCES WHICH IS REQUIRED UNDER THE COASTAL ACT. AND IN
CREATING A NEW ZONE, THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO CUSTOMIZE A ZONE
FOR A VERY UNIQUE AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT HAS URBAN
CONCENTRATIONS OF PEOPLE IN A VERY RURAL AREA WITH SIGNIFICANT
CONSTRAINTS. THE L.C.P. ALSO CREATES A COMMUNITY STANDARDS
DISTRICT AS A PRIMARY IMPLEMENTATION MECHANISM FOR THE PLAN.
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THE PLAN WILL DESIGNATE BOTH SIGNIFICANT RIDGE LINES AND
TRAILS. THE SIGNIFICANT RIDGE LINES' DEVELOPMENT WILL BE
RESTRICTED, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS' NORTH AREA AND THIS IS PARTIALLY DUE TO ESTHETIC
REASONS, BUT MORE IMPORTANT, IT IS REALLY A SAFETY MEASURE.
AND THE TRAILS, WE WILL NOT REQUIRE DEDICATIONS OF TRAILS
UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIFIC FINDINGS MADE UNDER A DISCRETIONARY
APPROVAL. FINALLY, THE 1986 MALIBU L.U.P. USED A TAILORED
APPROACH TO RESOURCE PROTECTION WHERE IT IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT
ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE AREAS AND APPLIED SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS TO EACH RESOURCE, WITH ONLY RESOURCE-DEPENDENT USES
INVOLVED ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE HABITAT AREAS OR E.S.H.A.
WE'RE USING A SIMILAR APPROACH IN THE PROPOSED L.C.P., THOUGH
WE NOW HAVE A BASELINE OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR THE
ENTIRE PROJECT AREA, IN ADDITION TO THE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS FOR EACH RESOURCE TYPE. COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF
DOES NOT AGREE WITH OUR APPROACH. THEY WOULD PREFER US TO USE
THE CITY OF MALIBU L.C.P. APPROACH AND DESIGNATE ALL
UNDISTURBED NATIVE VEGETATION IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS'
COASTAL ZONE AS E.S.H.A. AND WHAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED AS
E.S.H.A. RIGHT NOW IS PRIMARILY THE RIPARIAN AREAS AND
ENCLOSED CANOPY OF WOODLANDS THAT CONSTITUTES APPROXIMATELY
6.5 PERCENT OF THE UNINCORPORATED COASTAL ZONE. COASTAL
COMMISSION STAFF ARGUES THAT NATURAL RESOURCES CANNOT BE
ADEQUATELY PROTECTED UNLESS THEY ARE DESIGNATED E.S.H.A.
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BECAUSE E.S.H.A. IS THE RESOURCE TERM THAT APPEARS IN THE
COASTAL ACT. THE PROBLEM WE SEE WITH THAT IS THAT THE COASTAL
ACT ONLY ALLOWS RESOURCE-DEPENDENT USES IN AN E.S.H.A., THINGS
LIKE BIRD WATCHING, HIKING AND HORSEBACK RIDING. IN THE MALIBU
L.C.P., WHICH WAS WRITTEN BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION, THEY
DESIGNATED 47 PERCENT OF THE CITY AS E.S.H.A., THEN THEY
ALLOWED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AND THOSE ACCESSORY USES
WITHIN E.S.H.A. WE DISAGREE WITH COASTAL COMMISSION'S
APPROACH. WE BELIEVE WE PROTECT COASTAL RESOURCES AND PROPERTY
RIGHTS AS WELL AS THEY DO, IF NOT BETTER. AND WE HAVE THAT
JUST WITH THE TAILORED APPROACH AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WE
BELIEVE OUR APPROACH IS SOUND AND LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE. I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE PRIMARY
CONSIDERATIONS THAT GUIDED US IN DEVELOPING THIS L.C.P. IT HAS
TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COASTAL ACT AND ITS MANDATE TO
PROTECT THE COASTAL RESOURCES. IF IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH
THE COASTAL ACT, THE COASTAL COMMISSION WILL NOT CERTIFY IT.
PUBLIC SAFETY WAS A PRIMARY CONSIDERATION AS HAS BEEN MADE
CLEAR AGAIN THIS WEEKEND. THE ENTIRE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS
COASTAL ZONE IS A VERY HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE. THERE
IS LIMITED INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE ROADS, TO WATER, TO SEWER
LINES. AND NONE OF THAT WILL PROBABLY CHANGE. THERE ARE
DANGEROUS GEOLOGIC CONDITIONS. THE AREA IS SUBJECT TO
LANDSLIDES, FLOODING, TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS DURING RAIN EVENTS.
WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROTECTION OF THE
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ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS PRESERVING THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY
OWNERS. AND WE WERE ALSO CONCERNED WITH GETTING THE MAXIMUM
PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS PROGRAM. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. IN
THE BEGINNING, WE CONSULTED WITH A PUBLIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE
OF EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS
COASTAL ZONE. WE CONDUCTED TWO COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS VERY EARLY
ON WHERE WE ASKED INDIVIDUALS FOR THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT LAND
USE AND THE ISSUES IN THE MOUNTAINS. WE INVITED 25 GROUPS AND
INDIVIDUALS TO COME AND SPEAK TO US ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT
LAND USE IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. AND THESE GROUPS
RANGED FROM THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION TO THE SIERRA
CLUB AND TO EQUESTRIAN GROUPS. THEN WE HELD COMMUNITY MEETINGS
TO RELEASE THE COMMUNITY REVIEW DRAFT WHERE THERE ALSO WAS AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW THOSE AND GIVE US THEIR
COMMENTS. AND THAT WAS PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE REGIONAL
PLANNING COMMISSION DRAFT OF THE L.C.P., WHICH WAS AGAIN
PRESENTED BEFORE THE PUBLIC, HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
ON THREE MEETINGS AND NOW WE'RE BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR MORE
PUBLIC INPUT. AND FINALLY WE NEEDED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE
REQUIREMENTS OF THE COUNTY'S N.P.D.E.S PERMIT AND A.B.885 TO
IMPROVE WATER QUALITY IN THE WATERSHEDS OF THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS AS WELL AS IN SANTA MONICA BAY. SUPERVISORS, THIS IS
A GOOD PLAN. A LOT OF THOUGHT AND DIALOGUE AND WORK HAS GONE
INTO IT. THE COUNTY NEEDS THIS L.C.P. WE NEED TO HAVE COASTAL
DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING AUTHORITY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. AND
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COMPARED TO THE CURRENT TWO-STEP PROCESS, OUR L.C.P. PROVIDES
SIMPLICITY WITH ONE SET OF RULES: IT'S THE COUNTY'S RULES.
IT'S EFFICIENT. THERE'S ONE LOCAL AGENCY WITH PRIMARY
JURISDICTION AND APPLICANTS ONLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
PERMITTING PROCESS ONCE. CONSISTENCY WITH LOS ANGELES COUNTY
OPERATING PROCEDURES AND CONTROLLING DOCUMENTS, AND IT
PROVIDES CERTAINTY AND FAIRNESS. THE RULES ARE WRITTEN DOWN.
EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE RULES ARE AND THAT THEY WILL BE
APPLIED TO ALL PROJECTS IN A FAIR AND CONSISTENT MANNER. MR.
CHAIR, SUPERVISORS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THIS
CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. IF I CAN JUST ASK YOU ON THE
ISSUE OF HORSE BOARDING, BECAUSE MOST OF THE CRITICISMS THAT
WE'LL HEAR TODAY, A GOOD NUMBER OF THEM WILL BE RELATED TO
THAT. COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE PLAN
WILL BE FOR ANY HORSE KEEPING IN TERMS OF MITIGATION OF
POTENTIAL IMPACTS FROM THE HORSES' WASTE PRODUCTS AND HOW
WE'RE GOING TO MITIGATE THAT AND HANDLE THAT?
GINA NATOLI: YES, SUPERVISOR. ALL HORSE FACILITIES, WHETHER
THEY ARE BOARDED OR PRIVATELY OWNED HORSES, WILL BE REQUIRED
TO COMPLY WITH SOME BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO CONTAIN WASTE
ON SITE, TO PREVENT WASTE FROM FLOWING OFF-SITE INTO ANY
RIPARIAN AREAS OR EVEN OUT OF THAT ANIMAL CONTAINMENT
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FACILITY. SO THERE ARE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN PLACE FOR
THAT. WE ALSO HAVE SETBACKS SET INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION
PROGRAM THAT REQUIRE CERTAIN DISTANCES FROM E.S.H.A., CERTAIN
DISTANCES FROM DWELLING UNITS, CERTAIN DISTANCES FROM RIPARIAN
HABITATS. AND THOSE WILL APPLY TO EVERY FACILITY, WHETHER OR
NOT IT'S A BOARDED FACILITY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THOSE RESTRICTIONS OR THOSE REGULATIONS
APPLY TODAY?
GINA NATOLI: NO, THEY DO NOT APPLY TODAY. SOME OF THE SETBACKS
APPLY IN SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT WATERSHEDS, THE CURRENTLY
DESIGNATED SIGNIFICANT WATERSHEDS, THE SIGNIFICANT OAK
WOODLANDS AND SAVANNAS, AND TO E.S.H.A. THERE ARE SOME
SETBACKS ALSO REQUIRED FROM THE RIPARIAN AREAS BUT NOT THE
B.M.P.S.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. IN THE MALIBU COASTAL PLAN THAT
THE COASTAL COMMISSION FOISTED ON THE CITY OF MALIBU, DO THEY
HAVE THIS, TO THIS EXTENT THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN THE
VARIOUS PROVISIONS THAT ARE BEING SUGGESTED FOR THIS PLAN AS
IT RELATES TO HORSE KEEPING?
GINA NATOLI : THEY DO HAVE B.M.P.S IN THE MALIBU L.C.P.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. OKAY. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: I HAD A QUESTION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: HANG ON ONE SECOND. I HAVE ONE MORE.
THANK YOU. MR. ANTONOVICH?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: QUESTION. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE PLAN, THE
PROPOSED PLAN THAT WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE EQUESTRIANS
TO CONSTRUCT RIDING ARENAS, BARNS, CORRALS OR STABLES TO
ACCOMMODATE THEIR HORSE KEEPING?
GINA NATOLI: ALMOST EVERY-- SUPERVISOR, ALMOST EVERY SINGLE
DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL ZONE IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME SORT
OF COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS
SPECIFIC TO HORSES OR HORSE KEEPING THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE
BURDENSOME FOR AN EQUESTRIAN FACILITY.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF
EQUESTRIANS IN THE PLAN?
GINA NATOLI: I BELIEVE MUCH OF THE PLAN PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF
EQUESTRIANS. I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE NOW CODIFYING THE ABILITY
OF INDIVIDUALS TO PRIVATELY BOARD HORSES IN THEIR BACKYARD. WE
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HAVE CODIFIED THAT HORSES ARE PART OF THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS AND SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: HAVE YOU MET WITH THE EQUESTRIAN ASSOCIATION
GROUPS?
GINA NATOLI: ABSOLUTELY, SUPERVISOR.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: SO THEIR INPUT HAS BEEN PART OF THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE THIS
BOARD?
GINA NATOLI: IT HAS AND IT HAS BEEN WELCOMED.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS, MIKE,
BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A REAL EFFORT TO TRY TO RECONCILE, AN
EFFORT THAT WE TRIED TO MAKE BEFORE. IT DIDN'T WORK AS WELL,
BUT TO TRY TO RECONCILE THE VARIOUS INTERESTS. AND THE STAFF
HAS WORKED VERY CLOSELY. I THINK YOU'LL FIND MOST OF THE
CRITICISM THAT WE HAVE HAD, AND IT'S NOT A LOT, BUT MOST OF
THE CRITICISM IN THIS PLAN IS THAT IT'S TOO ACCOMMODATING TO
EQUESTRIANS. I THINK YOU'VE STRUCK A-- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO
CALL IT A BALANCE. I THINK THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT
OVER THE CURRENT SITUATION WE HAVE THERE. IF WE DID NOT HAVE
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ENVIRONMENTALLY WORSE OFF. AND MOST-- THE LION'S SHARE OF THE
EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY IN THIS AREA HAVE SUPPORTED THIS PLAN.
NOW, JUST INDICATE NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE HERE TODAY
BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE DEALING WITH THE FIRE, BUT JUST TO
SET THIS IN SOME CONTEXT, THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE, STATE
PARKS AND RECS, SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS CONSERVANCY, VIRTUALLY
EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD OR PROPERTY OWNERS' ASSOCIATION IN THE
SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS, I'M SURE NOT EVERY ONE OF THEM BUT
VIRTUALLY ALL OF THEM, ALL OF THESE AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS
SUPPORT THE PLAN. SIERRA CLUB, LOCAL CHAPTER SUPPORTS THE
PLAN. THE EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY, ALL OF THE ACTIVE PEOPLE IN
THE EQUESTRIAN COMMUNITY, MOST OF WHOM ARE OUT TENDING TO
THEIR HORSES AT PIERCE COLLEGE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FIRE,
SUPPORT THE PLAN. IT IS A REMARKABLE COALITION OF PEOPLE FROM
A TO Z WHO HAVE COME BEHIND THIS PLAN. THERE ARE PEOPLE, AND
WE'LL HEAR FROM SOME OF THEM TODAY. I'VE NOTICED WHO THE CARDS
ARE, WHO SUPPORT AND WHO OPPOSE, SOME OF THEM FOR SPECIFIC
REASONS, AND WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE REASONS AFTER WE HEAR FROM
THEIR TESTIMONY. BUT I THINK THIS HAS BEEN-- I WANT TO THANK
THE STAFF. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. BUT NOT AS LONG AS IT
COULD HAVE BEEN. I WANT TO THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS
WELL, FOR DEALING WITH THIS WITH THIS WITH DISPATCH, AT LEAST
IN COUNTY TERMS WITH DISPATCH. AND WE'VE COME TO THIS POINT I
THINK WITH A REMARKABLE DOCUMENT WHICH HAS A NUMBER OF PILLARS
OF SUPPORT. NOT TO SAY THAT THE INDIVIDUAL ISSUES WILL NOT BE
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ADDRESSED. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT WE WON'T HEAR
THESE INDIVIDUAL ISSUES. BUT I THINK THE BROADER WORK PRODUCT
IS VERY GOOD. SO THANK YOU AND ALL OF THE STAFF PEOPLE ON THAT
AND MY OWN STAFF, AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A NUMBER--
ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT.
LET ME START WITH THE SUPPORTERS AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE
OPPONENTS AND SEVERAL AGNOSTIC, AT LEAST THEY DIDN'T CHECK OFF
A BOX. I'M TRYING TO READ. MISS JOCELYN MC CLAY. IS SHE HERE?
MR. I'M SORRY MR. JOCELYN MCCLAY. CRAIG ROTH? CHARLES TAYLOR?
AND MARY-ANN WEBSTER. THOSE ARE THE FIRST FOUR I HAVE. MR.
MCCLAY.
JOCELYN MCKAE: GOOD MORNING. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
JOCELYN MCKAE: YES. MY NAME IS JOCELYN MCKAE, A RESIDENT OF
MALIBU CANYON FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. IT WILL BE TO MANY OF US
A GREAT SATISFACTION THE DEPARTURE OF THE COASTAL COMMISSION
FROM AN AREA WHERE WE CONSIDERED THEIR PRESENCE ILLEGAL AND A
GREAT WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS. WE HAVE WITNESSED THE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY OWNERS' RIGHTS AND
ENTITLEMENTS OVER THE YEARS, AND WE HOPE THAT THE COUNTY OF
LOS ANGELES WILL NOT CONTINUE WITH THIS COASTAL COMMISSION'S
UNCONSCIONABLE AND IMMORAL PROCEDURES. TODAY WE HAVE A NEWER
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PROBLEM ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT QUITE AS VOCIFEROUS AS IT WAS 30
YEARS AGO. THE HIPPIES AND SELF-PROCLAIMED ENVIRONMENTS HAVE
BECOME OLDER, WHICH SOME WELL-MANNERED PEOPLE WILL ACCORD
GREATER RESPECT. THAT IS NOT DESERVED. WE WOULD LIKE THE
COUNTY TO LISTEN TO STATEMENTS PROVIDED BY QUALIFIED
ACADEMICALLY NOT THE TOUCHY-FEELY NONSENSE THAT PREVAILS
TODAY. THE ZONING LAWS NEED TO BE IN CONFORMANCE THROUGHOUT
THE STATE. IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO HAVE LOCAL DISTORTION OF THE
CODE. PEOPLE MUST BE AN ALLOWED TO ENJOY ENTITLEMENTS THAT
CAME WITH THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY. THE EVIL COERCION AND
UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROCEDURES THAT HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THE
COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF MUST NOT PERSIST UNDER THE AUSPICES
OF THE COUNTY. LIKEWISE, PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO
USE EXPEDITORS OR MANIPULATORS TO ACQUIRE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL
ENTITLEMENTS. THIS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE TO CORRUPTION. THE
ZONING LAWS THAT PREVAILED PRIOR TO THE COASTAL COMMISSION'S
INAPPROPRIATE INTRUSION INTO THE LAND CURRENTLY SHOULD BE--
THE LAND SHOULD BE REIMPLEMENTED TO RECTIFY THE CURRENT
PROPOSALS THAT DO NOT REFLECT GENERAL ZONING PROCEDURES THAT
ARE IN PLACE ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE. THERE IS NOTHING
PARTICULARLY ECOLOGICALLY SPECIAL ABOUT THIS AREA. THERE ARE
MANY AREAS COMMON AND SIMILAR IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. ALL
PROJECTS SHOULD BE DONE BY REGISTERED ARCHITECTS AND PLANNERS
AS THEY ARE IN OTHER STATES AND COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD WHICH
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ARE ENJOYED WITHOUT COASTAL COMMISSION AND EXCESS GOVERNMENT
INTERVENTION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU, MR. MCKAE. MARY-ANN WEBSTER.
MARY-ANN WEBSTER: I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS NEXT. I'M MARY-ANN
WEBSTER. I REPRESENT THE WEST LOS ANGELES GROUP OF THE SIERRA
CLUB. I'M THE CONSERVATION CHAIR. I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT
THAT THIS YEAR OUR CLUB STRONGLY ENDORSED THE NORTH AREA PLAN,
WHICH IS IN THIS PLAN AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IS VERY SIMILAR
IN MANY RESPECTS. ACTUALLY, I LIVE IN THE SECOND DISTRICT,
SUPERVISOR BURKE'S DISTRICT, AND WE'RE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN
URBAN PARKS AND HAVE WORKED ENVIRONMENTALLY IN KEN HAHN AND
THE BALDWIN HILLS PARK AND IN BIONA. BUT WE'RE ALSO SUPPORTERS
OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS BECAUSE IT'S
ALL INTERRELATED. WE'RE ONLY AS HEALTHY AS ALL OF THE PARKS OF
THE COUNTY, AND CERTAINLY THE MOUNTAIN AREAS AND THE COASTAL
WATERS ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF OUR BENEFITS, THE
BENEFIT OF ALL CITIZENS. YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE
PLAN AND ALL OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE IN IT AND SO I WON'T
REPEAT ALL OF IT. THE CLEAN WATER, THE CLEAN AIR, THE WILDLIFE
CORRIDORS, THE RIPARIAN AREAS THAT NEED TO BE PROTECTED, THE
OAK FOREST AND ALSO OF COURSE EROSION CONTROL AND ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT NOW, FIRE SAFETY. THIS IS A GOOD PLAN. WE REALLY
HAVE TO THANK THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF
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US AND INCORPORATING THE BEST ELEMENTS FOR BOTH THE MOUNTAINS
AND THE URBAN AREAS, AND WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS PLAN.
THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU, MARY-ANN. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR
WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL.
MARY-ANN WEBSTER: THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: CHARLES TAYLOR?
CHARLES TAYLOR: YES. IT'S RATHER IRONIC. THANK YOU FOR HEARING
ME THIS MORNING, SUPERVISORS. IT'S RATHER IRONIC THAT THE LAST
TIME I TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP, IT WAS FOR THE NORTH
AREA PLAN. YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT WITH ALL THAT'S GOING ON WITH
OUR WILDFIRES, OUR PARK RANGERS, ALL OF OUR PARK RANGERS,
INCLUDING OUR PARK RANGER PARTNERS WITH THE CALIFORNIA STATE
PARKS AND THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS CONSERVANCY ARE ALL VERY
BUSY RIGHT NOW BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TOOK A SPECIAL
MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GONE
INTO THE DRAFTING OF THIS PLAN. I HAVE BEFORE ME SOME PREPARED
COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY OUR SUPERINTENDENT THAT I
WOULD LIKE TO READ FOR YOU. "GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE
SUPERVISORS, THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE THANKS THE COUNTY FOR
CRAFTING A VISIONARY, LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM. AS YOU KNOW, THE
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PUBLIC HAS INVESTED MORE THAN 1/2 BILLION DOLLARS IN THIS
REGION OF NATIONAL AND STATE PARK SIGNIFICANCE. WE NOW HAVE
TREMENDOUS PARK LAND LEGACY FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS
TO ENJOY, AND ENJOY IT THEY DO. WHETHER VISITORS COME TO
RECREATE ON THE TRAILS OR RESIDENTS TAKE PLEASURE IN THE RURAL
LIFESTYLE, THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS HAS TRULY BEEN A
DESTINATION FOR EVERYONE. IT'S A CHALLENGING PLAN FOR THE
SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS' NATIONAL RECRE-- AREA. IT'S
CHALLENGING TO PLAN FOR THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS' NATIONAL
RECREATION AREA WHERE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE LANDS ARE A 50/50
PERCENT MIX AND LAND USES MUST COEXIST. WE FIND THE CURRENT
PLANNING FRAMEWORK LARGELY CONSISTENT WITH PARK MANAGEMENT
STRATEGIES, AND WE THEREFORE SUPPORT THE DRAFT L.C.P. AND
RECOMMEND ITS APPROVAL. HAVING EXPRESSED OUR OVERALL SUPPORT
FOR THE L.C.P., THE POLICIES CONCERNING HILLSIDE MANAGEMENT
COULD BE WE BELIEVE STRENGTHENED. PROTECTION OF STEEP
CHAPARRAL BLANKETED HILLSIDES IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE NATURAL
AND SCENIC RESOURCE PROTECTION OF THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS.
WE SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING CHANGES THAT WE FIND WOULD BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE DRAFT L.C.P.'S GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR THE
CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT RESOURCE PROTECTION HAS
PRIORITY OVER DEVELOPMENT. FIRST CONSIDER PROHIBITING
DEVELOPMENTS ON SLOPES OVER 50 PERCENT. ALSO LIMIT THE
STRUCTURE OR PAD SIZE OF A DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE EXTENSIVE
MANUFACTURED SLOPES OUTSIDE ALLOWABLE SITE ENVELOPES. AND JUST
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TO CONCLUDE, WE ARE ALSO -- WE WILL ALSO BE SUBMITTING A
DETAILED COMMENT LETTER." AND THANK YOU FOR OUR COMMENTS
TODAY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I KNOW
YOUR HEAD AND HEART IS ELSEWHERE. SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE TODAY.
CHARLES TAYLOR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ROBIN MITCHELL? I'M SORRY.
CRAIG ROTH: CRAIG ROTH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU'RE CRAIG ROTH. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT
SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLAN OR SOME PARTS?
CRAIG ROTH: I HAVE A POINT TO MAKE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: AS LONG AS YOU'RE HERE, GO AHEAD AND
SPEAK.
CRAIG ROTH: THANK YOU, SIR. MY NAME IS CRAIG ROTH. AND I'M A
LAND OWNER OF THREE 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS IN THE RURAL
VILLAGE OF EL NITO. IT'S THE UNINCORPORATED AREA NEXT TO
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MALIBU IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. MY FAMILY AND I ARE
QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS IN RESPECT TO
THE RURAL VILLAGES IN THE COASTAL PLAN. THIS LAND HAS BEEN IN
MY FAMILY FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN LOSING
THE RIGHT TO PROPERLY DEVELOP OUR LAND. I SAY PROPERLY,
BECAUSE WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY IS NOT TRYING TO TAKE
AWAY THE RIGHT TO BUILD, IT IS MAKING IT SOMEWHAT IMPRACTICAL.
TO US, IT'S THE SAME THING. ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE SLOPE
DENSITY EQUATION. UNDER THE OLD COASTAL COMMISSION GUIDELINES,
OUR THREE LOTS WERE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 500 SQUARE FEET OF
STRUCTURE EACH. IRONICALLY, UNDER THE L.A. COUNTY CODE, A
STRUCTURE CAN BE NO SMALLER THAN 800 SQUARE FEET. NOW, IT'S
NEVER BEEN OUR INTENTION TO DEVELOP EACH LOT SEPARATELY, WE DO
INTEND TO EVENTUALLY BUILD ONE SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE BY
COMBINING THE THREE LOTS. HOWEVER, WITH THE SLOPE DENSITY
EQUATION, WE ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 1500 SQUARE FEET OF
DEVELOPMENT. WITH TODAY'S COST OF CONSTRUCTION, BUILDING
SOMETHING THAT SMALL IS IMPRACTICAL AND COST PROHIBITIVE. ONE
WOULD POUR A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY INTO DEVELOPING THE
PROPERTY AND NEVER BE ABLE TO REALIZE ITS ACTUAL COST ON THE
OPEN MARKET. WHILE THE COUNTY'S POSITION IS NOT TO CONCERN
THEMSELVES WITH WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR A
LAND OWNER, IT SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH THE REALITY THAT
LENDERS WILL NOT LEND PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNERS MONEY TO BUILD A
STRUCTURE THAT SMALL BECAUSE OF ITS LIMITED SIZE AND LIMITED
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VALUE. SO IF YOU CONSIDER THOSE FACTORS, WE ARE LOSING OUR
ABILITY TO BUILD BECAUSE OF THESE RESTRICTIONS, MAYBE NOT
DIRECTLY, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH. IN TODAY'S ECONOMY, WITH TODAY'S
INFLATIONARY COST OF CONSTRUCTION, THE COUNTY NEEDS TO
CONSIDER THESE REAL WORLD ISSUES WHEN LIMITING ONE'S
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. WE HAVE ALMOST A HALF ACRE OF LAND.
RESTRICTING THE ALLOWABLE BUILDABLE AREA TO 1500 SQUARE FEET
IS UNREASONABLE AND IN OUR MIND THE TAKING OF OUR LAND. THANK
YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. LET ME CALL ROBIN MITCHELL.
IS THAT YOU? HANG ON A SECOND. JOSIAH TRIMPER? JOAN SLIM--.
JOAN SLIMOCOSKY: SLIMOCOSKY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SLIMOCOSKY. THANK YOU. I SHOULD HAVE
HAD AN EASIER TIME WITH THAT. OKAY. MS. MITCHELL.
ROBIN MITCHELL: BEFORE I BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO SAY I REALLY
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DURING
THESE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TRAGEDIES AS THESE FIRES BECAUSE YOU
PEOPLE BRING US TOGETHER. AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I'M
ROBIN GENSLING MITCHELL OF ORION RANCH STAR ROUTE, A PARTIAL
HOMESTEAD OF THE ALLROUTH FAMILY ESTABLISHED IN 1904. THIS
PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN OUR FAMILY FOR MORE THAN 65 YEARS. WE ARE
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IN FAVOR OF ANY MEASURE WHICH RECOGNIZES THE VESTED RIGHTS OF
LAND OWNERS TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTIES. FROM WHAT WE
UNDERSTAND, THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS LOCAL COASTAL PLAN DOES
PROTECT THESE RIGHTS WHILE IT REPEALS THE 1986 MALIBU LAND USE
PLANS. FOR 65 YEARS, WE'VE HAD AN APIARY ON OUR PROPERTY. IT'S
BEEN ZONED FOR AGRICULTURE. WE'VE DONE LIGHT FARMING, EVEN HAD
A COUPLE OF DONKEYS. WE WANT TO RETAIN THESE RIGHTS. IN
REFERENCE TO AN AD IN THE DAILY NEWS-- AND THAT'S ON WHAT I
HANDED IN-- WE WOULD ENJOY HAVING HORSE BOARDING FACILITIES
NEXT TO US, A BED AND BREAKFAST WOULD CERTAINLY HELP US WITH
OUR FAMILY REUNIONS AS OUR FAMILY AGES AND INCREASES. AS FOR
PRIVATE CAMP GROUNDS, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IT IN THE
FUTURE, AS IN THE PAST WE HAVE PROVIDED SIMILAR OPPORTUNITIES
AT NO CHARGE TO YOUTH GROUPS. I HAVE TURNED IN SOME PICTURES
TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OVER THE PAST 65 YEARS,
WE'VE WITNESSED THAT THE MOUNTAINS ARE QUITE CAPABLE OF
MAINTAINING THEIR OWN INTEGRITY. AND I'D LIKE TO SHOW-- CAN WE
SHOW A PICTURE? ONE OF THE PICTURES? OR SOME OF THE PICTURES?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WE'LL PASS THEM AROUND.
ROBIN MITCHELL: THIS FIRST ONE IS A MAP THAT MY BROTHER MADE.
IT'S A LONG PICTURE. IT'S FOR US TO FIND THE PROPERTY
BOUNDARIES. I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE THESE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT IN THE WAY OF OUR PROPERTY. THE LOWER PART IS
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THE BASE OF CALABASAS PEAK. THEN WE GO TO SADDLE PEAK, WE GO
TO CASTRO PEAK AND FINALLY TO LADYFACE, SO THAT YOU GET A FULL
VIEW OF THE MOUNTAINS. AND IT IS THE GEOLOGY, NOT THE
REGULATIONS THAT ARE MAINTAINING AND KEEPING THE MOUNTAINS.
THE MOUNTAINS ARE QUITE CAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES.
THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. JOSIAH TRIMPER.
JOSIAH TRIMPER: GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE SUPERVISORS, I AM
JOSIAH TRIMPER. I LIVE AT 2601 WEST 162ND STREET, TORRANCE,
CALIFORNIA, 90504-1501. I'M ENROLLED IN CALIFORNIA VIRTUAL
ACADEMY, LOS ANGELES. THE PURPOSE OF ATTENDING THIS MEETING TO
SHARE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT IS VERY SPECIAL TO
ME. MY SUPERVISOR TEACHER MRS. PAULA MILANO SUPPORTS MY CHOICE
OF BEING HERE AND IS EXCITED TO READ ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE. I
SUPPORT THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAIN LOCATION COASTAL PLAN
BECAUSE CALABASAS IS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE
PURCHASED THE LAND SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ENHANCE OR TO--
OR IMPROVE THEIR INVESTMENT. AS A PARTICIPATING CARETAKER OF
THE ORION RANCH IT IS IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THE FREEDOMS AND
THE RIGHTS THAT MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS HAD WHEN THEY PURCHASED
THE LAND IN 1942 TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN IT. THANK YOU FOR
CONSIDERING MY THOUGHTS.
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ROBIN MITCHELL: THIS IS MY GRANDSON. AND HE'S A SIXTH
GENERATION COUNTY, LOS ANGELES COUNTY, INDIVIDUAL. AND HE CAME
TO SUPPORT HIS ORION RANCH STAR ROUTE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU DID A GOOD JOB.
JOSIAH TRIMPER: THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU CAN GET YOUR TEACHER A COPY OF THE
VIDEO SO SHE KNOWS YOU WERE HERE. [LAUGHTER.] HAPPY TO HAVE
YOU HERE. OKAY. MISS SLIMOCOSKY.
JOAN SLIMOCOSKY: MY HUSBAND USED TO SAY OUR NAME WAS SMITH BUT
TOO MANY PEOPLE HAD IT SO HE CHANGED IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
SENSE OF HUMOR WHEN YOU HAVE A POLISH LAST NAME. MY NAME IS
JOAN SLIMOCOSKY. I LIVE AT 25632 BUCK HORN DRIVE IN THE MONTE
NIDO SECTION OF CALABASAS. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE MONTE
NIDO VALLEY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION THIS YEAR. THE MONTE NIDO
VALLEY COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION REPRESENTING APPROXIMATELY 300
HOMES IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS SUPPORTS THE PLAN. MANY OF
US HAVE WORKED FOR DECADES TOWARD THE GOAL OF PRESERVATION OF
THIS GREAT RESOURCE, THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. PRESERVATION
NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR ALL FUTURE GENERATIONS. WE
HAVE SUBMITTED OUR CONCERNS AS THIS PLAN WAS DRAFTED. WE HAVE
STUDIED THE RESPONSES TO OUR CONCERNS AS IT WAS REFINED. WE
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LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TO STRENGTHEN THE PLAN DURING
IMPLEMENTATION, BUT WE WANT THIS PLAN TO GO FORWARD NOW.
RESPONSIBILITY, CONSISTENCY AND EQUITY. THESE WORDS KEEP
COMING UP AS WE EVALUATE THE PLAN. RESPONSIBILITY TOWARD
NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH LEGITIMATELY COME BEFORE DEVELOPMENT.
CONSISTENCY, SO THE RULES ARE WRITTEN DOWN AND EVERYONE KNOWS
WHAT THEY ARE. EQUITY, SO THAT WE ALL PLAY BY THE SAME RULES
WITHOUT REGARD TO POLITICAL CONNECTIONS OR WHO CAN HIRE THE
BEST EXPEDITOR. OUR COMMUNITY, NOT RELIANT ON URBAN AMENITIES,
HAS LONG SUPPORTED COMMUNITY-BASED STANDARDS. WE SEE THE LOCAL
COASTAL PLAN AS A COMPLEMENT TO THE NORTH AREA PLAN, ALSO
BASED ON COMMUNITY STANDARDS. LIKE THAT PLAN, WE NEED GRADING
AND RIDGELINE GUIDELINES. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SOME UNIQUE
NEEDS, INCLUDING FULL PROTECTION OF THE BOWL, MONTE NIDO, THAT
WE LIVE IN. THE DESIGNATION OF SIGNIFICANT WATERSHEDS FLOWING
INTO MALIBU CREEK AND ITS TERMINUS, MALIBU LAGOON, ALL PUBLIC
LAND. CLOSING THE GAP ON DARK CREEK AS E.S.H.A., PRESERVATION
OF OUR COMMUNITY AS RESIDENTIAL OVER COMMERCIAL, THESE ARE
NEEDS THAT GO BEYOND THE NORTH AREA PLAN. THE IMMEDIATE AND
FUTURE EFFECTS OF THIS PLAN GIVE VALUE, ECONOMICALLY,
ESTHETICALLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY TO THE ENTIRE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS. WE SUPPORT THESE VALUES AND PLAN. AND AS A FINAL
PERSONAL NOTE, I LEFT MY HOME OF 33 YEARS IN MONTENIDO TODAY,
PERHAPS UNWISELY, DURING THESE PRECARIOUS TIMES, TO TESTIFY
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BEFORE YOU BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE I PLACE ON THIS ADOPTION
OF THIS PLAN. THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU, JOAN. I APPRECIATE THAT. I
THINK YOUR HOUSE IS GOING TO BE FINE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
LET ME CALL FOUR PEOPLE UP HERE. MINDY COMMINS, DON SCHMITZ.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION. JAMES
ALAMILLO AND PETE GONZALEZ. YOU ARE MISS COMMINS?
MINDY COMMINS: MINDY COMMINS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GO AHEAD.
MINDY COMMINS: THANK YOU, DISTINGUISHED SUPERVISORS, MY NAME
IS MINDY COMMONS --
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: HANG ON ONE SECOND, MINDY. IT'S NOT FAIR
TO YOU TO WAIT UNTIL EVERYBODY SETS UP. WE'LL START YOU OVER
AGAIN IN A SECOND. GREAT, GO AHEAD.
MINDY COMMINS: MY NAME IS MINDY COMMINS, I'M HERE AS A
REPRESENTATIVE OF SCHMITZ AND ASSOCIATES. AND I JUST WANTED TO
BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION SOME MAPPING INACCURACIES ON THE
L.C.P. MAPS. A NUMBER OF OUR CLIENTS IN THE PAST HAVE RECEIVED
COASTAL BAD NEWS DETERMINATIONS FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
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THE BOUNDARIES ON THE L.C.P. MAP-- THE BOUNDARY ON THE LCP
MAPS DOES NOT MATCH THESE BOUNDARY DETERMINATIONS THAT HAVE
BEEN RECEIVED. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH COASTAL STAFF AND THEY HAVE
CONFIRMED THAT THE BOUNDARY DETERMINATIONS THEY HAVE PREPARED
ARE ACCURATE AND THEY SHOULD BE REFLECTED ON THE NEW L.C.P.
MAPS. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO PLANNING STAFF ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY RECEIVED THEIR BOUNDARY DIRECTLY FROM
COASTAL. BUT AS IT STANDS, THEY DON'T MATCH THESE BOUNDARY
DETERMINATIONS THAT COASTAL HAS PREPARED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO
REQUEST THAT THE BOARD DIRECT PLANNING STAFF TO CHECK THE
PROPERTIES THAT HAVE RECEIVED THESE BOUNDARY DETERMINATIONS
THAT DON'T MATCH AND THAT WHERE NEEDED, THEY CORRECT THE
BOUNDARY ON THE L.C.P. MAPS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: CAN I JUST ASK YOU? WHAT IS THE
SIGNIFICANCE? ASSUMING THERE IS A DISCREPANCY, WHAT IS THE
SIGNIFICANCE TO YOUR CLIENTS?
MINDY COMMINS: IN SOME CASES, PROPERTIES THAT WERE COMPLETELY
OUTSIDE OF THE COASTAL ZONE ARE NOW ENTIRELY INSIDE THE
COASTAL ZONE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I SEE. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE
DISCREPANCY IS THAT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES SHOULD NOT BE
INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN.
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MINDY COMMINS: RIGHT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. GINA, HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS
WITH MINDY ABOUT THIS? DO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE
DISCREPANCIES THEY ARE RAISING ARE?
GINA NATOLI: WE HAVE IN THE PAST RECEIVED THEIR BOUNDARY
DETERMINATIONS FROM THE COASTAL COMMISSION, AND--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO MY QUESTION IS: ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT
SHE IS TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY?
GINA NATOLI: I AM AWARE. WE CAN ALWAYS USE THE INFORMATION
AGAIN. ALL WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE OUR G.I.S. SECTION
INCORPORATE THOSE CHANGES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE ASK YOU TO DO IS
SPECIFICALLY PROVIDE TO MISS NATOLI THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS
THAT YOU ARE ALLEGING THERE'S A DISCREPANCY, AND GET IT TO US
LIKE TODAY OR TOMORROW IF YOU HAVE IT. APPARENTLY I'M SURE YOU
DO, SO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IT BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT TUESDAY.
AND IF THERE'S A DISCREPANCY, WE'LL FIX IT.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IF THERE ISN'T, THERE ISN'T. THANK YOU.
MR. SCHMITZ?
DON SCHMITZ: CHAIR, SUPERVISORS, MY NAME IS DON SCHMITZ, I'M
NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THE PLAN. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOPEFULLY
CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISMS, IF THEY CAN EVEN BE CALLED
CRITICISMS. AS A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS AND WITH WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, I'D LIKE TO MAKE
THE SUGGESTION THAT A POLICY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE L.C.P.
THAT, WHERE PRACTICAL FOR NEW PROJECTS, AND NEW PROJECTS
INCLUDING PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS, THE UTILITIES BE
UNDERGROUNDED. IT SEEMS A GREAT DEAL OF THE FIRES THAT WE'RE
EXPERIENCING IN THIS CLASS FOR FIRE ZONE ARE DUE TO HIGH WINDS
CAUSING TRANSFORMERS AND POWER LINES TO SPARK. ADDITIONALLY,
WE'VE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY THE SUGGESTION THAT THE L.C.P.
REFLECT THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT, SPECIFICALLY SECTION 66498.9
WHICH TALKS ABOUT VESTING APPLICATIONS. THAT'S ONE STATE LAW.
THE COASTAL ACT IS ANOTHER STATE LAW. AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND
THAT 21.44.602 OF THE PROPOSED L.C.P. BE SLIGHTLY MODIFIED SO
THAT THE VESTING PROVISIONS OF THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT ARE
REFLECTED ALSO IN THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM. ANOTHER AREA-- DO
YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SIR?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I WILL AFTER YOU'RE DONE.
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DON SCHMITZ: ANOTHER AREA OF SOME CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THE
REQUIREMENT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS FOR
GEOLOGY AND SOILS TESTING. NOW, THIS IS NOT A SCENARIO
WHEREUPON IF YOU HAVE TO GRADE A PILOT ROAD OR DO SIGNIFICANT
SITE DISTURBANCE, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE
REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY AND THE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT BE
REVIEWED. IN FACT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH NOW. BUT
AS PRESENTLY CRAFTED, IF I HAVE A CLIENT THAT HAS EXISTING
ACCESS AND SIMPLY NEEDS TO PULL IN A GEOLOGY AND SOILS RIG TO
DRILL A HOLE, AN ADMINISTRATIVE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT
WILL BE REQUIRED. NOW THIS CONCERN OF MINE IS EXACERBATED BY
THE FACT THAT THE COASTAL COMMISSION MAY DRAMATICALLY EXPAND
ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE HABITAT AREAS. AND IF THEY DO THAT,
THEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMITS WILL BE
FULL BLOWN PUBLIC HEARINGS. THAT WILL RESULT IN A SCENARIO
THAT IS EXTREMELY CUMBERSOME. AND THE COASTAL COMMISSION HAS
ALWAYS EXEMPTED DRILLING ON AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY
SIGNIFICANT SITE DISTURBANCE, SIMPLY TO DRILL. AND I'D ASK
THAT THAT EXEMPTION BE PLACED BACK INTO THE PLAN.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I THINK THAT ON THIS LAST POINT WE DON'T
HAVE ANY DISCRETION ON THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? UNDER THE
COASTAL ACT?
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GINA NATOLI: I'M SORRY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION,
SUPERVISOR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THE ISSUE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT
FOR SOILS TESTING?
DON SCHMITZ: BY YOUR LEAVE, SIR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN I DO.
DON SCHMITZ: THE QUERY IS WHETHER OR NOT 30610 THE EXEMPTIONS
FROM PERMITTING AUTHORITY ARE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY CAN
AVAIL THEMSELVES OF, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION OF DEVELOPMENT IS
EXTREMELY BROAD UNDER THE COASTAL ACT. AND SO THE DISCUSSION
WAS WHETHER OR NOT, IF YOU DO DRILLING ON A SITE WHERE YOU
DON'T HAVE TO CREATE A PILOT ROAD, OR REMOVE E.S.H.A., IN
OTHER WORDS IF YOU HAVE A DIRT ROAD, DIRT PAD, IF YOU COME OUT
AND SIMPLY DRILL A HOLE, LOG THE HOLE DOWN, DO THE REPORT,
BACKFILL THE HOLE, WHETHER OR NOT A C.D.P. OF ANY SORT IS
REQUIRED. AND MY TESTIMONY WAS THAT HISTORICALLY IT HAS NOT
BEEN REQUIRED BY THE COASTAL COMMISSION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. UNLESS YOU HAVE THE
ANSWER. I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION NOW. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. WE
HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS-- SOME PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE WHO START
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DOING CORE DRILLING ON THEIR PROPERTIES WITHOUT ANY PERMITS AT
ALL, AND ONE THING LEADS TO ANOTHER. SO THAT MAY BE WHAT'S
DRIVING THIS. BUT I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT EVEN SO, UNDER
THE COASTAL ACT, WE HAVE NO DISCRETION. BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO
IT. THANK YOU.
DON SCHMITZ: THANK YOU, SIR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: JAMES ALAMILLO? ONE OF YOU OR BOTH OF
YOU. BECAUSE I'M GOING TO CALL A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE. MR.
GONZALEZ IS HERE, I THINK. THOMAS SHUCK? BEVERLY BLAKE? IS
MISS BLAKE HERE? OKAY, MR. ALAMILLO?
JAMES ALAMILLO: HELLO, MY NAME IS JAMES ALAMILLO. I WANT TO
THANK THE BOARD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. I'M HERE ON
BEHALF OF HEAL THE BAY. THE COUNTY HAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY
TODAY TO PROTECT THE REMAINING PUBLIC NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE
SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS L.C.P.; HOWEVER, THE PLAN AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED
FAILS TO DO THAT. THE PLAN DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE
PROTECTION FOR WATER QUALITY ASPECTS AND/OR SENSITIVE
HABITATS. AND FOR EXAMPLE, ON WATER QUALITY, THE LOCAL COASTAL
PLAN MUST BE VIEWED AS AN IMPLEMENTING DOCUMENT FOR WATER
QUALITY POLICIES ON SUCH ISSUES AS TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY LOADS
AND AS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S SOMEWHAT COMICAL THAT
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LATER ON TODAY, AGENDA ITEM 25, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A
PRESENTATION BY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ON LOW IMPACT
DEVELOPMENT, YET THIS POLICY IS NOT INCORPORATED INTO THE
SANTA MONICA COASTAL LOCAL PLAN. ANOTHER IT-- THE LOCAL
COASTAL PLAN PRESENTLY ALLOWS AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT ON
SLOPES UP TO 50 PERCENT. THIS IS EXCESSIVELY STEEP SLOPE TO
ALLOW FOR SUCH DEVELOPMENT AND WILL LIKELY CAUSE EROSIONAL
PROBLEMS AND POTENTIALLY DEGRADE STREAMS AND WATER POLITIES
THROUGH SEDIMENT LOADING. THE COUNTY SHOULD ADOPT A LOWER
MAXIMUM SLOPE OF SPECIFICALLY 33 PERCENT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT
WITH BOTH THE MALIBU L.C.P. AND THE STANDARD URBAN STORM WATER
MITIGATION PLAN OF THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD.
ON THE HABITAT SIDE OF THINGS-- WELL, LOOKING AT TIME, WE'VE
SUBMITTED A 14-PAGE COMMENT LETTER TO STAFF FULLY DETAILING
ALL OF OUR ISSUES AND CONCERNS WITH THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS
LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM. WE THEREFORE REQUEST THAT THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS CONTINUE THIS ITEM AND REMAND THE PLAN BACK TO
STAFF SO THAT IT CAN AMEND THE DOCUMENT TO INCORPORATE THE
NECESSARY ISSUES. AND FINALLY I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. MR. GONZALEZ?
PETE GONZALEZ: YES. GOOD MORNING, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. MY
NAME IS PETE GONZALEZ. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK THE PLANNING
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STAFF FOR THIS PLAN. I KNOW THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF HARD
WORK AND A LOT OF CHALLENGES TO GET TO THIS POINT. I DO,
HOWEVER, HAVE ONE COMMENT TO MAKE REGARDING SECTION 8,
21.60.070 CONCERNING CERTIFICATES OF COMPLIANCE. PRESENTLY
WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER APPLIES FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE, PLANNING STAFF HAS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO REVIEW THE PARCEL CREATION DOCUMENTS AND ASSESS HOW THE
PARCEL WAS CREATED. ON OCCASION, PLANNING STAFF PLACES
CONDITIONS ON THE LAND TO BRING A PARCEL IN COMPLIANCE. A
PROPERTY OWNER THEN HAS THE RIGHT TO MEET ALL IMPOSED
CONDITIONS, THEREBY CORRECTING ANY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH
PARCEL CREATION. ONCE ALL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN MET, A
CORRECTED CONDITIONAL CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE IS THEN
ISSUED. PLANNING STAFF IS PROPOSING TO SUDDENLY REQUIRE A
MINOR COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT WHEN A PARCEL IS ENCUMBERED
BY SUCH A CONDITIONAL CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE. A PROPERTY
OWNER SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH A SECOND REVIEW
PROCESS SOLELY DUE TO GEOGRAPHIC REASONS. NO OTHER AREA IN.
THE COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE PROPOSED
ADDITIONAL EVALUATION. THEREFORE THE PROPOSED CHANGE REQUESTED
BY THE REGIONAL PLANNING STAFF RESULTS IN AN UNEVEN AND
INCONSISTENT REGULATORY SCHEME WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION. I
ENCOURAGE STAFF TO REVIEW THIS PROPOSED CHANGE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. SHUCK?
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THOMAS SHUCK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: BEFORE YOU START, MR. SHUCK, LET ME CALL
-- IS BEVERLY BLAKE HERE? NOT HERE. MARSHA HANSCOM? JACKY
DEHAVILAND. GREAT. ALL RIGHT, MR. SHUCK.
THOMAS SHUCK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY. I
REPRESENT-- FIRST OF ALL I LIVE IN CALABASAS, I'VE LIVED HERE
MANY YEARS. I'M AN ATTORNEY AND I REPRESENT THE OWNER OF A
VERY SIGNIFICANT PARCEL IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. AND I
HAVE A DEPICTION-- I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S
JUST A SIMPLE MISTAKE IN THE R.L.40 DESIGNATION AND I'D LIKE
TO DISCUSS IT. IF I COULD HAND THE BOARD A COPY OF A COLOR
DEPICTION. I THINK IT WILL HELP US OUT, JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO
TAKE A LOOK AT IT. I'VE GOT ONE FOR EACH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THE STAFF HAS ONE,
TOO, SERGEANT.
THOMAS SHUCK: WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS CASTRO PEAK.
UNFORTUNATELY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, YOU CAN'T SEE. IT'S
ALL FLAT. YOU DON'T GET A SENSE OF IT. IT'S THE THIRD TALLEST
PEAK IN THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS. IT'S DESIGNATED AS A
SIGNIFICANT VIEW SHED AND IT CERTAINLY IS. IT'S A SPECTACULAR
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LOCATION. MY CLIENT OWNS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LITTLE DEPICTION
HERE, THE OLD 45 PARCEL, WHICH IS SQUARELY AT THE TOP. AND MY
CONCERN IS THAT THIS HAS AN IMPACT, THIS DESIGNATION HAS AN
IMPACT NOT ONLY ON MY CLIENT BUT ON THE PUBLIC. AND HERE IT
IS. IT'S ONLY 25 ACRES. IT'S PRESENTLY AND HAS BEEN FOR THE
LAST 30 YEARS BRISTLING WITH CELL TOWERS, 200, 150 FEET HIGH,
THREE OF THEM. AND IN THE LONG TERM, MY CLIENT HOPES TO
CONVERT THIS USE TO A MUCH MORE BENIGN USE FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY
DWELLING. WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEKING A RENEWAL OF OUR PERMIT
FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, BUT IN THE LONG TERM AFTER THAT, WE'D
LIKE TO TAKE THOSE TOWERS DOWN AND USE IT FOR THE SINGLE-
FAMILY DWELLING. WE CAN'T DO THAT UNDER THE R.L.40
DESIGNATION. IT'S NOT LARGE ENOUGH. IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT, IF
YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IS ANOTHER PARCEL THAT'S ALSO,
IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT, BRISTLING WITH CELL TOWERS. AND IT HAS
AN R20 DESIGNATION. SO THE IRONY IS THAT THAT PARCEL COULD
CONTINUE-- IT COULD BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT,
BENIGN SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING, BUT OUR PARCEL, WHICH IS MUCH
LARGER, CANNOT. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO WE'D ASK THAT
THAT BE RE-DESIGNATED CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PARCELS
AS R.L.20.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WHICH WOULD PERMIT YOU ONE SINGLE FAMILY
DWELLING?
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THOMAS SHUCK: YES. WHICH IS OUR LONG TERM PLAN AFTER ABOUT
ANOTHER 10 YEARS. IT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE VIEW
SHED THERE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT YOU
CANNOT BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING ON THAT PROPERTY TODAY?
OR UNDER THIS ZONING?
THOMAS SHUCK: WELL AT R.L.40, IT'S ONLY 25 ACRES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: BUT YOU'D BE ENTITLED TO ONE HOUSE ON
THAT PARCEL, I BELIEVE?
THOMAS SHUCK: MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'D HAVE TO-- IT'S NOT
LARGE ENOUGH. AM I MISTAKEN IN THAT?
GINA NATOLI: SUPERVISOR --
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GO AHEAD.
GINA NATOLI: WHAT THAT LAND USE CATEGORY DOES IS, IT REGULATES
FOR A LAND DIVISION. WHEN THERE'S A LAND DIVISION, IT MEANS
YOU JUST CANNOT CREATE A PARCEL THAT IS ANY SMALLER THAN
WHATEVER THAT APPENDIX IS.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THE QUESTION IS CAN HE, ON AN R.L.40
ZONE, BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE?
GINA NATOLI: YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK TO BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE
ON A LEGAL PARCEL. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THAT PARCEL IS--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO THE ANSWER IS YES, HE COULD BUILD A
SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE.
GINA NATOLI: YES, SUPERVISOR. HE CAN ASK TO BUILD.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO, BUT ASK TO BUILD AND BUILD ARE TWO
DIFFERENT THINGS. DOES HE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD A HOUSE ON--
ONE HOUSE ON AN R.L.40-ZONED PROPERTY, WHICH IS 25 ACRES
LARGE?
GINA NATOLI: HE HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE ABILITY TO ASK AND THE ACTUAL
PHYSICAL ABILITY TO PUT A HOUSE THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER
HE HAS THE PHYSICAL ABILITY TO BUILD THE HOUSE, BUT WE DO KNOW
THAT HE HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THE SAME ABILITY WOULD BE APPLICABLE
WHETHER IT'S R.L.40 OR R20, CORRECT?
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GINA NATOLI: ABSOLUTELY, SUPERVISOR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO I GUESS THE BETTER QUESTION IS: IS
THERE ANY SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT HE CAN DO,
EITHER TO ASK OR GET PERMISSION TO DO, UNDER AN R.L.40 OR AN
R20?
GINA NATOLI: NO, SUPERVISOR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ON THIS 25 ACRES. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAVE
ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY, I ALREADY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM
YOU. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ARGUE TO THE CONTRARY TO
THAT, LET US KNOW. BUT YOU HAVE A LEGAL LOT.
THOMAS SHUCK: YEAH, BUT IT'S DESIGNATED, THE LARGER-- THE
WEIGHT OF CONSIDERATION IS GOING TO BE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
TOLD IT'S NOT-- THEY WOULD PREFER TO LEAVE IT UNDEVELOPED, I
BELIEVE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IF WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO KEEP IT
UNDEVELOPED, THEN I WOULD IMAGINE WE'D HAVE TO BUY YOUR
PROPERTY, I THINK. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF
YOUR PROPERTY IS. HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE PROPERTY?
THOMAS SHUCK: ABOUT TEN, 15 YEARS.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: HOW LONG DID THE PREVIOUS OWNER OWN THE
PROPERTY?
THOMAS SHUCK: THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ABOUT 20 YEARS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY EVER BUILD A SINGLE-
FAMILY HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY BEFORE?
THOMAS SHUCK: IT'S BEEN USED FOR CELL SITES FOR 30 YEARS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IT HASN'T BEEN USED BY CELL SITES FOR 30
YEARS BECAUSE THERE WERE NO CELLS 30 YEARS AGO. MAYBE FOR
ANTENNAS OR SOMETHING, OR DIFFERENT KINDS. BUT WHY WOULDN'T
ANYBODY HAVE BUILT A HOUSE THERE IN THE LAST 100 YEARS? AND
ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S AN ISSUE. WHAT'S THE CURRENT ZONING ON
THE PROPERTY?
GINA NATOLI: I BELIEVE IT'S ONE TO 20 ACRES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YEAH, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
THOMAS SHUCK: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS RE-DESIGNATED. ITS
ONLY PARCEL IS R.L.40.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. WHAT'S THE
DIFFERENCE IF IT'S R.L.40 OR 20?
GINA NATOLI: THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE IN IF SOMEONE ASKS TO
SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY. IF IT'S ANY PARCELS THAT ARE LARGER
THAN 40 ACRES, WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT. ONLY NEW PARCELS--
THE ONLY NEW PARCELS THAT CAN BE CREATED MUST BE A MINIMUM OF
40 ACRES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: UNDERSTOOD.
GINA NATOLI: SO ANYBODY THAT'S 40 ACRES OR LESS--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO IF IT WAS R20, HOW MANY LOTS COULD
YOU SUBDIVIDE IT INTO?
GINA NATOLI: AT A ONE TO 20?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YES.
GINA: NONE. YOU CAN'T SUBDIVIDE IT. IT STAYS AS IT IS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO HE'S ASKING FOR R20. WHY WOULDN'T WE
SAY OKAY TO R20?
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GINA NATOLI: BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE SOLSTICE CANYON
SIGNIFICANT WATERSHED, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THREE THAT WE HAVE
DESIGNATED AS R.L.40 TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I UNDERSTAND. BUT UNDER R.L.40 OR R20,
HE COULD ONLY BUILD ONE HOUSE AT MAXIMUM, CORRECT?
GINA NATOLI: THAT'S CORRECT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: AND YOU SAID THERE IS NO SUBSTANTIVE
DIFFERENCE, A MINUTE AGO WHEN I ASKED YOU, THERE WAS NO
SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S R.L.40 OR 20 AS TO WHAT
HE'LL BE ABLE TO ASK FOR AND GET, CORRECT?
GINA NATOLI: THAT'S CORRECT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER WE
DESIGNATE IT R20 OR R.L.40?
GINA NATOLI: THE PRESENCE OF THE SIGNIFICANT WATERSHED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO WHAT DOES R.L.40 DO TO PROTECT THE
WATERSHED THAT R20 DOESN'T DO?
GINA NATOLI: FOR HIS PARCEL IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
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ABOUT, ISN'T IT?
GINA NATOLI: I DON'T THINK SO, SUPERVISOR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. SO THEN EXPLAIN THAT. IS THIS
BARRIER THAT HE HAS ON HIS MAP, IS THIS ALL HIS OR IS THERE
SOMETHING MORE TO IT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S MORE THAN 25 ACRES.
TOM SHUCK: IT'S 25 ACRES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THIS BLUE PIECE, THIS POWDER BLUE PIECE.
TOM SHUCK: IT'S 25 ACRES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S YOUR ENTIRE OWNERSHIP.
TOM SHUCK: YES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL LOOK AT IT. LET'S NOT
TAKE ANY MORE OF THE BOARD'S TIME ON THAT. BUT I UNDERSTAND
THE PROBLEM.
TOM SHUCK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. MISS HANSCOM.
MARCIA HANSCOM: HONORABLE SUPERVISORS, MARCIA HANSCOM, WITH
THE COASTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION NETWORK, CLEAN. I WAS A
RESIDENT OF THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS FOR 10 YEARS, EIGHT
YEARS IN MALIBU AND TWO YEARS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. AND
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO YOUR STAFF, I HAVE TO SAY THAT FROM
SPEAKING TO THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE I KNOW IN THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS AS WELL AS DOZENS OF ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING
S.O.S., SAVE OPEN SPACE, MALIBU COALITION FOR SLOW GROWTH,
ACCESS FOR ALL, WETLANDS DEFENSE FUND, THERE IS NO BROAD
CONSENSUS TO SUPPORT THIS PLAN. THIS PLAN IS A PRO-DEVELOPMENT
PLAN. I THINK YOU CAN SEE THAT POSSIBLY BY ONE OF THE
MOUNTAIN'S BEST EXPEDITERS, MR. SCHMITZ BEING IN SUPPORT OF
IT. AND IN AN AREA THAT IS CLEARLY, IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE
TELEVISION THE LAST FEW DAYS, CLEARLY OVERDEVELOPED ALREADY.
AND THIS PARTICULAR PLAN IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COASTAL
ACT. IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF TO BE IN THE HANDS OF THE COASTAL
COMMISSION AS IT IS CURRENTLY THAN TO PASS THIS PLAN. ONE OF
THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS THE PRIVATE COMMERCIALIZATION AND
UNDERSCORING OF THESE BOARDING OF HORSES. NOW WE'RE NOT JUST
TALKING ABOUT ONE OR TWO HORSES PER PERSON. WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT IN A THREE-ACRE PARCEL, YOU COULD HAVE 24 HORSES. THIS
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AFTER THESE FIRES ARE DONE, YOU WILL HAVE MUD. YOU WILL HAVE
MORE MUD THAN NORMAL IF THIS PLAN IS APPROVED BECAUSE THE LAND
WILL BE DENUDED BY ALL OF THESE ANIMALS TRAMPLING THESE
ACREAGE. AND I THINK THAT ONE OF THE BEST THINGS YOU COULD DO
IS TO DO BETTER ENFORCEMENT IN THE MOUNTAINS. WE JUST SETTLED
A CASE WHERE THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT RIGHT ADJACENT
TO NATIONAL PARK SERVICE PROPERTY, NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
COASTAL ACT. AND THE NEW OWNER HAD TO TAKE OUT TONS OF MANURE.
WHY? BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS NOT ENFORCING ITS OWN STANDARDS
THERE. WE NEED TO HAVE E.S.H.A DESIGNATED FOR COASTAL STATES
AND CHAPARRAL. IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT IN
THE SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE.
AND MR. YAROSLAVSKY, YOU HAVE CALLED THE SANTA MONICA
MOUNTAINS NATIONAL RECREATION AREA A JEWEL. AND IT WILL TURN
THIS JEWEL FIRST INTO A DENUDED ZONE. AND THEN THE DEVELOPERS
WILL TURN IT INTO A MOUNTAIN OF CONCRETE. SO WE URGE YOU TO
NOT APPROVE THIS IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT. JACKY DEHAVILAND.
JACKY DEHAVILAND: JACKY DEHAVILAND, YES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: HANG ON A SECOND. LET ME ASK BEVERLY
BURKE AND JERRI JAVAHERI.. I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT CORRECTLY.
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ARE THEY HERE? GREG ELLIS? TOM ELANS. OKAY, MISS DEHAVILAND.
MISS DEHAVILAND, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
JACKY DEHAVILAND: GOOD AFTERNOON AT THIS POINT AND THANK YOU
FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS HONORABLE BOARD. I AM
JACKY DEHAVILAND. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE SIERRA CLUB AND AM
AMONG OTHERS IN THE SIERRA CLUB OPPOSING THE LOCAL COASTAL
PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM. I AM ALSO THE SPOKESPERSON FOR THE
UNHEARD EQUESTRIANS AND THE CITIZENS FOR A BETTER L.C.P. IN
THE PAST TWO DAYS, 300,000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DISPOSSESSED,
BUSINESSES DESTROYED, A COUPLE OF HUNDRED HORSES EVACUATED TO
PIERCE COLLEGE IN WOODLAND HILLS. AMONG THE EVACUATED,
POPULATIONS FROM MALIBU AND MONTE NIDO, THE VERY NEIGHBORHOODS
OF PRIVILEGE REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF EIGHT BOARDING HORSES
PER ACRE AND THE COMMERCIALIZATION OF 24 HORSES PER PARCEL ON
THE 50 PERCENT SLIPPERY SLOPE TO CONCRETE. NATURE ORDERS FIRES
ANNUALLY FOR THE REGENERATION OF THE CHAPARRAL. THE COUNTY HAS
CLOSED HOSPITALS. IT CAN'T PROVIDE ENFORCEMENT OR MITIGATION
NOW. HOW FISCALLY AND MORALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO CONSIDER
PUTTING ALL OF THESE ANIMALS UP IN THE MOUNTAINS FOR THE GREAT
HORSE BARBECUE? THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. I GUESS THE ANSWER TO THAT IS
THE HORSES ARE THERE NOW. WE JUST DON'T ENFORCE IT VERY WELL,
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JACKY DEHAVILAND: WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S THERE NOW
WHETHER YOU'RE ADDING. THIS PUTS THE CEILING ON IT. AND IT
ALSO PROVIDES THE ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION TO IT. I DON'T WANT
TO GET INTO A DEBATE WITH YOU. I'M SORRY I EVEN BROUGHT IT UP.
BUT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. BUT IT'S AN OPINION. IT'S
NOT NECESSARILY BASED IN WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THIS PLAN.
JACKY DEHAVILAND: NO, IT'S NOT IN THE PLAN. IT'S BASED ON
OTHER EDUCATION, SIR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU, ALL RIGHT. MR. ELLIS?
GREG ELLIS: YES. GOOD MORNING, SUPERVISORS. I APPRECIATE
GREATLY YOUR CONSIDERING-- ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE FIRST EVENT
THAT I'VE BEEN INVITED TO, TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. AND
I OWN A PARCEL ABOUT 172 ACRES IN THE NICHOLAS CANYON AREA.
AND I'M INTERESTED IN BUILDING A WORLD CLASS DEMONSTRATION LOW
IMPACT GREEN SUSTAINABLE, FULLY CONTAINED COMMUNITY THAT
HONORS THE CULTURE AND THE HERITAGE OF THE CHUMASH INDIANS AND
TEACHES SUSTAINABLE LIVING TO VISITORS AND TO THE LOCAL
COMMUNITY ALIKE. I'M ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER ADDING A ZONING
DESIGNATION. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO KEEP THE DOOR OPEN TO
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INNOVATION AND SUSTAINABILITY. I'M REQUESTING THAT WE ADD INTO
THE ZONING REGULATION THE DESIGNATION AREAWIDE FOR GREEN, LOW
IMPACT, SUSTAINABLE, FULLY CONTAINED COMMUNITY DEMONSTRATION
PROJECTS WITH, OR SUBJECT TO, THE WAY THAT YOU CAN STILL
MANAGE THAT IS WITH A NEGOTIATED DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. SO IT
DOESN'T TAKE THE ABILITY AWAY FROM REMEDYING WHAT HAPPENS, BUT
IT DOES OPEN THE ABILITY FOR INNOVATION AND IT DOESN'T SLOW
THE PROCESS TO DO GREAT PROJECTS. WE NEED TO OPEN UP THE
OPPORTUNITY AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE AND TEACH BETTER
METHODOLOGIES FOR DEVELOPMENT. ADDING THIS DESIGNATION WILL
STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR WONDERFUL PROJECTS. I'VE DONE ALL
THE BASE STUDIES-- OR HAD THEM ALL COMPLETED. THERE ARE NO
ADVERSE SITUATIONS THAT WOULD PRECLUDE US FROM DOING A WORLD
CLASS PROJECT IN THIS AREA. I WANT TO CREATE A PROJECT THAT
TEACHES DEVELOPERS A BETTER WAY OF DEVELOPMENT AND HONORS
DIVERSITY. IT WOULD SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID HERE AND
ALL OF YOUR AWARDS THAT WERE GIVEN EARLIER TODAY. THIS PROJECT
WOULD SUPPORT THAT KIND OF CONTINUANCE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU, MR. ELLIS.
GREG ELLIS: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU ARE?
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TOM ELANS: TOM ELANS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
TOM ELANS: TOM ELANS. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE NAME YOU CALLED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YES, IT IS.
TOM ELANS: IS THAT RIGHT?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: LET ME HAVE THAT.. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T
SEE YOU COMING. ALL RIGHT. IS IT ELANS?
TOM ELANS: YES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I DIDN'T READ IT CORRECTLY. ALL RIGHT,
MR. ELANS, THANK YOU, GO AHEAD.
TOM ELANS: I PLACED SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ON A WEBSITE, SO IF
YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT, IF YOU HAVE A WEB CONNECTED RIGHT
NOW, YOU COULD GO TO WWW.COASTALCOMMUNITYFORUM.COM. I'LL JUST
GO OVER THE POINTS. I FOUND 11 ITEMS THAT I THINK WERE NOT
REALLY PARTICULARLY ADDRESSED BY THE PLAN. I'D LIKE TO GET
THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY. SO I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE TOPICS
AND YOU COULD FILL IN THE DETAILS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO IT
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FURTHER. BULLDOZING PERMITS. I KNOW BEING IN THE MOUNTAINS
QUITE A LOT DURING THE PAST 30 YEARS, I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE
JUST WHIP OUT THE BULLDOZER AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. AND
THEY PAY A FINE. THE ENVIRONMENT'S TRASHED. FOR NO GOOD
REASON. YOU DON'T EVEN NEED IT FOR A FOUNDATION OF A BUILDING.
AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS DURING THE 1920S AND
'30S, PEOPLE BUILT ON A SLOPE. THEY SIMPLY LAID THE JOIST A
LITTLE LONGER AND THEY SIMPLY MADE THE VERTICALS A LITTLE
TALLER ON THE DOWN SIDE AND YOU DO NOT NEED TO BULLDOZE. I
HAVE NO IDEA WHERE PEOPLE GOT IT IN THEIR HEAD THAT A FLAT
SLAB IS THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD BUILD. THESE ARE PRECARIOUS
MOUNTAINS. THEY'RE VERY SENSITIVE. AND THERE'S EXTRAORDINARILY
A SMALL AMOUNT OF SPACE. IF YOU HAVE 20 ACRES, YOU'RE LUCKY TO
GET AN ACRE OUT OF THAT. AND TO VIEW THIS AS A DEVELOPMENT
ISSUE IS GOING A LITTLE TOO FAR. THIS IS EXTREMELY LITTLE
PROPERTY AVAILABLE. THE ROADS THAT ARE DEMANDED BY THE FIRE
DEPARTMENT ARE EXTRAORDINARILY WIDE. IT LITERALLY DESTROYS THE
ENTIRE HILLSIDE IN TRYING TO JUST GET TO ONE SITE. I WOULD
RECOMMEND GOING A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS COMMUNITY GROUPING OF
STRUCTURES. AND IN MY DISCUSSION OVER THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT.
BUT RESTORATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGES. I HAVEN'T SEEN
ANYTHING. AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE PUT IN THEIR VINES AND
VINEYARDS AND FIVE AND TEN ACRES WORTH. AND THEY DECIDE THIS
IS JUST TO MAKE IT SIMPLY LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A PRESTIGE FARM
OF 1800S. THEY DON'T NEED THIS FARM. IT IS NOT ECONOMICALLY
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SENSIBLE. IT'S THE PRESTIGE THING. IT'S AN EMBLEM ON A CAR.
THAT'S ALL IT IS TO THEM. AND-- WHAT IS THAT, TIME LEFT?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT MEANS YOUR TIME'S UP.
TOM ELANS: I'M SORRY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GO AHEAD AND TAKE 15 SECONDS.
TOM ELANS: OKAY. I THINK THERE NEEDS-- JUST LIKE THE MODEL T
FORD, THIS IS NOT THE FINAL WORD IN DESIGN. THIS IS AN
ENVIRONMENT, IS AN EXTREMELY COMPLEX SITUATION. AND I HOPE YOU
THINK THAT THERE IS A WAY TO ESTABLISH A REVIEW PROCESS.
THERE'S NO COMPANY ON EARTH THAT DOESN'T REVIEW THEIR PRODUCT
ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. THERE'S CONTINUAL RESEARCH GOING ON. I
HOPE THAT THIS PLAN HAS A FOOTHOLD TO ALLOW FOR THIS, BECAUSE
THERE ARE SERIOUS TROUBLES HERE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING YOUR
COMMENTS AS THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ALONG AND I THINK MANY
OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE RAISED ARE LEGITIMATE AND WILL
BE ADDRESSED IN THE FINAL.
TOM ELANS: I HOPE YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WE HAVE, AND MANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU
RAISED ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED, AT LEAST I'M GOING TO
PROPOSE THAT THEY BE ADDRESSED. MY STAFF WILL TALK TO YOU
ABOUT IT.
TOM ELANS: THANK YOU, AND PLEASE LEAVE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE
WEBSITE. THERE'S A FORM THERE THROUGH GOOGLE. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU, MR. ELANS. THAT CONCLUDES
TODAY'S HEARING. WE WILL CONTINUE THIS HEARING TILL NEXT WEEK.
AND JUST SO THAT WE KNOW FOR THE RECORD, SACHI, ANYONE WHO
SPOKE TODAY WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK NEXT WEEK. IT'S
JUST A CONTINUATION OF THIS HEARING AS THOUGH IT WERE TODAY.
SO I DON'T WANT ANY MISUNDERSTANDING NEXT WEEK ON ANYBODY'S
PART. RICK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
RICHARD WEISS, COUNSEL: NOT UNLESS THE BOARD HAS ANY
QUESTIONS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT
THIS TIME? IF NOT-- I'LL READ THIS. "THE CANYON FIRE WHICH
CONTINUES TO AFFECT MUCH OF THE AREA WITHIN THE SANTA MONICA
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INTERESTED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FROM COMING DOWNTOWN TODAY
TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED SANTA MONICA MOUNTAINS COASTAL
PROGRAM. I THEREFORE MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
CONTINUE THE HEARING ONE WEEK TO OCTOBER 30TH, 2007 IN ORDER
TO HEAR TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE UNABLE TO SPEAK."
SECONDED BY MOLINA, WITHOUT OBJECTION; UNANIMOUS VOTE. NEXT
ITEM.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: ITEM NUMBER 8. THIS IS THE DE NOVO HEARING
ON PROJECT NUMBER R2004-00269-2 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C.A.S.
AND DETERMINATION OF CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION TO AUTHORIZE THE
PLACEMENT OF A DOUBLE FACED BILLBOARD ON AN EXISTING
INDUSTRIAL BUILDING LOCATED AT 2408 RANCHO WAY IN THE
UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY OF RANCHO DOMINGUEZ, DEL AMO ZONE
DISTRICT, APPLIED FOR BY ROBERT LAGRONE ON BEHALF OF THOMPSON
MEDIA COMPANY. NO WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE WAS PRESENTED ON THIS
MATTER, AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THIS.
RUSSELL FRICANO: YES. MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. GOOD
AFTERNOON. I AM RUSSELL FRICANO OF THE COMMUNITY STUDIES ONE
SECTION OF REGIONAL PLANNING. AND TO MY LEFT IS FRANK MENESES,
ADMINISTRATOR OF THE CURRENT PLANNING DIVISION OF REGIONAL
PLANNING. THE APPLICANT, THOMPSON MEDIA COMPANY, FILED A
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION TO AUTHORIZE THE PLACEMENT
OF A BILLBOARD ON AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDING LOCATED AT
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2408 RANCHO WAY IN THE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY OF RANCHO
DOMINGUEZ. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY ELGER PROPERTIES. ELGER
PROPERTIES LEASED SPACE ON THE SITE TO THOMPSON MEDIA FOR THE
PLACEMENT OF THE BILLBOARD. THE ZONING ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
IS M2, HEAVY MANUFACTURING. AND THE PREVAILING LAND USE WITHIN
500 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF INDUSTRIAL AND
WAREHOUSE USE. THE BILLBOARD REQUEST WAS APPROVED BY THE
HEARING OFFICER ON AUGUST 2ND OF 2005. THE APPROVAL AUTHORIZED
THE PLACEMENT OF A DOUBLE FACED BILLBOARD, 672 SQUARE FEET IN
SIGN AREA ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE HEARING OFFICER
APPROVAL WAS APPEALED BY DONALD AND MARY LA FORCE, PROPERTY
OWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. DULY NOTICED
PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2005,
BY THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. AT THE COMMISSION
HEARING, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT A CLAUSE WITHIN THE EXISTING
COVENANT CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE
C.C.N.R.S. ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, PROHIBIT THE PLACEMENT OF
A BILLBOARD ON THE PROPERTY FOR OFFSITE ADVERTISEMENT
PURPOSES. FURTHERMORE, AN AGREEMENT ALSO REQUIRED THE SUBJECT
PROPERTY-- THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE RELATED TO THE
C.C.N.R.S. EXECUTED ON JUNE 17TH OF 2005. AND THIS AMENDMENT
REQUIRED THE LESSEE, THOMPSON MEDIA COMPANY, TO DELAY
CONSTRUCTION UNTIL ONE OF THE ACTIONS OCCURS. FIRST, THE
REVOCATION OF THE C.C.N.R.S., THE AMENDMENT TO THE CLAUSE TO
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LEGAL DETERMINATION THAT THE PROPERTY IS NOT GOVERNED BY THE
C.C.N.R.S. SO AS TO ALLOW THE PLACEMENT OF THE BILLBOARD. THIS
INFORMATION WAS NOT DISCLOSED TO THE HEARING OFFICER AT THE
INITIAL HEARING. INFORMATION REGARDING THE AMENDMENTS TO THE
LEASE WAS PROVIDED TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION AT THE
NOVEMBER 3RD, 2005 HEARING. AND AFTER HEARING TESTIMONY, THE
COMMISSION DETERMINED THAT MATTERS CONCERNING THE AMENDMENT TO
THE LEASE AGREEMENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED PRIOR TO THE
PUBLIC HEARING. THE COMMISSION REVERSED THE HEARING OFFICER'S
DECISION AND UPHELD THE APPEAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS INDICATE ITS INTENT TO UPHOLD THE APPEAL
OF PROJECT NUMBER 2004-00269-2 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE
T2004-00016-2 AS RECOMMENDED BY THE REGIONAL PLANNING
COMMISSION. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
SUP. BURKE: THERE ARE THREE -- WELL, THERE ARE FOUR PEOPLE WHO
HAVE ASKED TO SPEAK. I WOULD ASK GRETCHEN THOMPSON, GREGORY
MEATH, AND ROBERT LAGRONE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. AND
THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM AZ BANAYAN. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND
GET A SEAT THERE, YOU CAN.
SPEAKER: THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTY IS HANDING OUT JUST A COUPLE OF
PAGES THAT WE THINK WILL HELP TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S OCCURRED. AS
THE REPORT STATED, THE PROJECT IS A BILLBOARD, A DOUBLE FACED
BILLBOARD TO GO IN RANCHO DOMINGUEZ IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, A
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ZONE THAT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL. IF WE LOOK AT WHY IT IS EXACTLY
THAT THOMPSON MEDIA COMPANY IS APPEALING, WE'LL LOOK FIRST TO
THE STAFF REPORT HERE AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WHERE, AT
THE END OF THE REPORT, IT SAYS THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD
HAVE-- "AFTER HEARING TESTIMONY, THE COMMISSION DETERMINED
MATTERS CONCERNING THE AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
RESOLVED PRIOR TO THE HEARING AND THE COMMISSION REVERSED THE
OFFICER'S DECISION AND UPHELD THE APPEAL, EFFECTIVELY REVOKING
A PERMIT THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN GRANTED." THERE IS A TIMELINE
WHICH IS AMONGST THE COUPLE OF PAGES THAT I HANDED OUT. AND
YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE TIMELINE THAT THE AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE
THAT WAS ALLEGED TO BE WITHHELD FROM THE PLANNING OFFICER, THE
HEARING OFFICER, DID NOT EXIST AT THE TIME OF THE HEARING. WE
DIDN'T HAVE ANY AWARENESS OF THE C.C.N.R.S. UNTIL AFTER THE
PERMIT WAS ISSUED. SO IN A SIMPLE WAY, WE CAN SAY THAT THE
REASONING OF THE BOARD WAS QUITE SIMPLY FLAWED. THE DOCUMENT
THAT THEY SAID WE SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED DIDN'T EXIST. WE COULD
NOT HAVE PROVIDED IT. FURTHER MORE IT DEALS WITH C.C.N.R.S.
THOSE ARE A PRIVATE MATTER. THOSE ARE MATTER THAT WE
DETERMINED MATTERS OF THEIR ENFORCEABILITY IN A COURT OF LAW
WHERE PRIVATE PARTIES CAN GO AT THESE THINGS. FOR THE BOARD TO
PRECLUDE OUR ABILITY TO TAKE THIS STEP FIRST IN ACQUIRING THE
PERMIT, PUTS US IN A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE EITHER CART NOR
HORSE. WE HAVE NO PERMIT, SO WE DON'T HAVE STANDING TO GO TO
COURT BECAUSE THE DISPUTE IS NOT RIPE, AND WE DON'T HAVE A
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DEFINED PROJECT THAT WE CAN TAKE TO THE NEIGHBORS TO ASK THEM
IF THEY WOULD APPROVE IT. SO WE WOULD ASK THAT THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS GIVE US BACK OUR PERMIT. THANK YOU. I HAVE MR.
THOMPSON. HE OWNS THOMPSON MEDIA COMPANY. HE IS THE SOLE
SHAREHOLDER. WE HAVE MR. AZIZ BANAYAN. HE IS THE PROPERTY
OWNER. AND WE HAVE ROB LAGRONE. HE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT. IF
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THESE GENTLEMEN, THEY'RE HERE TO
ANSWER THEM.
SUP. BURKE: WOULD THEY LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT?
AZIZ BANAYAN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A-- MY. NAME'S AZIZ
BANAYAN, AND GOOD MORNING. I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER. I WOULD
LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT, THAT THE C.C.N.R.S. AT ISSUE IN THAT
AREA IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE NOT AWARE OF. AND IN FACT NONE
OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA WHICH AFFECTS NINE
PROPERTIES WERE AWARE OF. THIS WAS A C.C.N.R. THAT WAS PLACED
ABOUT 30 YEARS. THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ARCHITECTURE COMMITTEE.
THERE'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY ZERO AWARENESS. WHEN ONE PROPERTY
OWNER MADE US AWARE THAT THIS EXISTS, WE DID APPROACH IT. WE
HAVE LOOKED INTO IT. THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS AS TO
THE VALIDITY AND ENFORCEABILITY OF THE C.C.N.R.S. BUT IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WE DO INTEND TO ADDRESS. AND WE HAVE NOTIFIED
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IF THERE ARE C.C.N.R.S, THAT THEY'RE ENFORCEABLE OR NOT. AND
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SUP. BURKE: WELL WE'RE NOT BASING THIS ON THE C.C.N.R.S., BUT
CERTAINLY YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO LOOK AT THOSE AND DETERMINE
EXACTLY HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE WITH THAT. BUT ACTUALLY THERE IS
NOT ANOTHER BILLBOARD WITHIN SOMETHING LIKE A HALF A MILE OF
THE SITE, WHICH IS REALLY ONE OF THE REAL CONCERNS. AND THERE
IS AN ORDINANCE. SO WE ARE-- WOULD THE STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND
AT ALL TO ANY OF THOSE ISSUES?
RUSSELL FRICANO: I ALSO WISH TO STRESS THAT WE DO HAVE IN OUR
FILES AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEASE THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE
APPLICANT ON JUNE 16TH OF 2005, WHICH ACKNOWLEDGES THEIR
AWARENESS OF THE RESTRICTIONS. AND THIS WAS SIGNED BEFORE THE
HEARING OFFICER TOOK THE ACTION ON AUGUST 1ST OF 2005.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT. I DO HAVE A MOTION. WE ARE SUPPORTING
THE POSITION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING-- OF THE REGIONAL PLANNING.
AND I'D LIKE TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. PROJECT NUMBER
R2004-00269 IN THE SECOND DISTRICT AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NUMBER T2004-00016-2 IN THE SECOND DISTRICT IS THE REQUEST TO
AUTHORIZE PLACEMENT OF A BILLBOARD ON AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL
BUILDING AT 2408 RANCHO WAY IN RANCHO DOMINGUEZ. A HEARING
OFFICER ORIGINALLY APPROVED THE PROJECT, AN APPROVAL
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OVERTURNED BY THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION ON APPEAL. THE
COMMISSION'S DENIAL OF THE C.U.P., BY SUSTAINING THE APPEAL,
WAS THEN APPEALED TO THIS BOARD. THERE IS NO OTHER EXISTING
BILLBOARD WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THIS SITE, REFLECTING THAT A
BILLBOARD WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AN
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TESTIFIED THAT THE LACK OF SUCH
BILLBOARDS ADDS TO THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
ENHANCES PROPERTY VALUES. THAT SAME PROPERTY OWNER HAS
REJECTED OFFERS TO PLACE BILLBOARDS ON HIS PROPERTY. THE
RECORD ALSO INDICATES THAT C.C.N.R.S WHICH PROHIBIT THE
INSTALLATION OF SUCH BILLBOARDS IN THAT AREA WERE INTENDED TO
PRESERVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY WITH THOSE C.C.N.R.S
DEEMING A VIOLATION OF ITS COVENANT TO BE A NUISANCE. ALSO
SUCH LARGE SIGNS COULD DETRACT FROM OR OBSTRUCT EXISTING
PERMITTED SIGNS IDENTIFYING THE BUSINESSES ON THE PROPERTIES
COVERED BY THE C.C.N.R.S. AS SUCH, OVERALL, THE EVIDENCE
REFLECTS THAT ALLOWING A BILLBOARD AT THIS SITE WOULD BE
MATERIALLY DETRIMENTAL TO THE USE, ENJOYMENT AND VALUATION OF
THE PROPERTY OF OTHER PERSONS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY. AS A
RESULT A C.U.P. CAN CANNOT BE APPROVED. I THEREFORE MOVE THAT
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ONE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO
INDICATE ITS INTENT TO UPHOLD THE REGIONAL PLANNING
COMMISSION'S DECISION TO DENY THE C.U.P., AND INSTRUCT THE
COUNTY COUNSEL TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY DENIAL FOR PROJECT
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NUMBER R2004-00269 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE T 2004-
0016. THAT'S MY MOTION.
CHAIRMAN ANTONOVICH: SECONDED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: UNANIMOUS VOTE.
SUP. BURKE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CLERK SACHI HAMAI: MR.
CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 1?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GO AHEAD.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD,
AFTER TABULATING THE BALLOTS, A DETERMINATION HAS BEEN MADE
THAT NO MAJORITY PROTEST EXISTS AGAINST THE PROPOSED
ANNEXATION AND LEVYING OF ASSESSMENTS FOR THE APPROVED
TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION TERRITORIES TO COUNTY LIGHTING
MAINTENANCE DISTRICT 1687 AND 1697 AND COUNTY LIGHTING
DISTRICT LLA.-1 UNINCORPORATED IN CARSON ZONES. AS A RESULT IT
WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE BOARD TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION
ORDERING ANNEXATION AND LEVYING OF ASSESSMENTS FOR THE
APPROVED TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION TERRITORIES TO COUNTY LIGHTING
MAINTENANCE DISTRICT 1687 AND 1697 AND COUNTY LLA-1
UNINCORPORATED IN CARSON ZONES.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. I WILL SO MOVE. SECONDED BY
MISS BURKE. WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: THAT COMPLETES THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO NOW WE MOVE TO ITEM 12? CLERK SACHI
HAMAI: ADMINISTRATIVE. SUPERVISOR MOLINA'S UP, I BELIEVE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY, SUPERVISOR MOLINA, YOU'RE UP
FIRST.
SUP. MOLINA: I HAVE ONE ADJOURNMENT THAT I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT.
I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF JOSE VARGAS.
HE'S THE BELOVED FATHER OF ARTURO VARGAS, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LATINO ELECTED AND
APPOINTED OFFICIALS, AND A TREASURED FRIEND OF OURS IN THE
FIRST DISTRICT. MR. VARGAS WAS A LIFE LONG RESIDENT OF
HIGHLAND PARK AND I WANT TO EXTEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO
ARTURO AND HIS ENTIRE FAMILY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT. WITHOUT
OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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SUP. MOLINA: LET'S SEE. I THINK THE ONLY THING, I WAS AMENDING
ANOTHER ITEM. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIALS. YOU SHOULD GO ON
TO OTHER MEMBERS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. SUPERVISOR BURKE?
SUP. BURKE: I MOVE THAT WHEN WE ADJOURN TODAY, WE ADJOURN IN
MEMORY OF AMANDO JOSEPH MARISCAL, JR. LONG TIME SECOND
DISTRICT RESIDENT WHO APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN KILLED BY A RANDOM
ACT OF VIOLENCE WHEN HE, HIS PREGNANT FIANCEE AND A FRIEND
WERE SHOT WHILE SHOPPING, AT A RED LIGHT IN MARINA DEL REY. HE
LEAVES TO CHERISH HIS MEMORY HIS PARENTS, AND FIANCEE PENNY
TORRES.
SUP. KNABE: I'D LIKE TO JOIN IN THAT.
SUP. BURKE: ERNEST C. WITHERS, PHOTOGRAPHER WHO DOCUMENTED
MORE THAN 60 YEARS OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY WITH VISUAL
IMAGES FROM THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, NEGRO LEAGUE BASEBALL,
AND BLUES AND R & B PERFORMANCES. HE PASSED AWAY OCTOBER 15TH
FROM COMPLICATIONS OF A STROKE AT AGE 85. HE LEAVES TO CHERISH
HIS MEMORY HIS WIFE OF 65 YEARS, DOROTHY, HIS SONS ANDREW,
PERRY AND JOSHUA, AND DAUGHTER ROSALIND. AND AMINA NASSARDEEN,
WAS THE MOTHER OF THE LATE MOHAMMAD NASSARDEEN, WHO PASSED
AWAY THE NIGHT FOLLOWING HER SON'S FUNERAL SERVICES. LAST
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WEEK. SHE LEAVES TO CHERISH HER MEMORY HER SURVIVING CHILDREN,
SALIMA, SAEEDA, ISHMAIL AND BILAL, AND FIVE GRANDCHILDREN. AND
ROBERT BRUCE, L.A. COUNTY FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC OF FIRE
STATION 116 B, BATTALION 7 WHO PASSED AWAY UNEXPECTEDLY
OCTOBER 16TH. HE LEAVES TO CHERISH HIS MEMORY HIS FIANCEE,
MARY PACHECO,. HIS BROTHER DAVE AND BRIAN BRUCE AND HIS SISTER
KATHY EDWARDS. AND DR. LEWIS F. BODDIE, PIONEERING AFRICAN
PHYSICIAN, EDUCATOR, COMMUNITY LEADER WHO PASSED AWAY RECENTLY
AT THE AGE OF 94. HE LEAVES TO CHERISH HIS MEMORY HIS WIFE OF
65 YEARS BERNICE, HIS FIVE DAUGHTERS AND TWO SONS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: UNANIMOUS VOTE.
SUP. BURKE: I'D LIKE TO CALL UP ITEM NUMBER 22.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ITEM 22?
SUP. BURKE: THAT WAS HELD FOR DISCUSSION, IF WE COULD HAVE THE
C.I.O.?
JON FULLENWIDER: GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS, MY NAME IS JON
FULLENWIDER.
SUP. BURKE: I THINK THAT WE ALL ARE VERY CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY,
ANY TIME CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION IS RELEASED. I KNOW THAT WE
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HAVE ADOPTED A POLICY THAT SAYS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE EMPLOYED,
THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE THEIR LAPTOPS HOME. THEY'RE
NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION THAT IS NOT
NECESSARY FOR THEM TO CARRY OUT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. ALSO,
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT SUBCONTRACTORS NOT HAVE ANY
INFORMATION THAT THEY DON'T NEED, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TALK
ABOUT THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, ADDRESSES AND ALL OF THAT
INFORMATION OF SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES. AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A
BIG LAG BETWEEN THE TIME THE PERSON LOSES, WHETHER IT'S
ACTUALLY A LAPTOP OR WHATEVER METHOD IT'S STORED, THAT THERE'S
A LAG BETWEEN THE TIME THE EMPLOYEE FINDS OUT THAT THAT
INFORMATION HAS GONE OUT AND IS LOST AND CIRCULATING
SOMEWHERE. SO I HAVE THIS MOTION TODAY AS AN AMENDMENT TO 22
SIMPLY TO TRY TO EXPAND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, FIRST OF ALL,
THAT INFORMATION GOES OUT ON COMPUTING DEVICES TO CONTRACTORS,
SUBCONTRACTORS, WHOEVER, THEY ONLY GET WHAT THEY NEED TO GET.
THAT IF THEY DON'T NEED TO GET A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, THAT
THEY DON'T GET THE WHOLE SOCIAL SECURITY. MAYBE THEY CAN GET
THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OR SOMETHING. BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND ALSO SET UP A FASTER METHOD OF SOMEONE
FINDING OUT THAT THEIR INFORMATION HAS BEEN GIVEN INTO-- IS
LOST. SO I'LL READ THIS IN, BUT BASICALLY I THINK I'VE
EXPLAINED WHAT MY CONCERN IS. BUT THIS IS MY MOTION. AND I
THINK YOU'VE SEEN IT.
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JON FULLENWIDER: YES, I HAVE.
SUP. BURKE: AND YOU SEE THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH IT. I MOVE
THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE NEWLY PROPOSED
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND SECURITY POLICY AS RECOMMENDED AND
FURTHER DIRECT THE C.E.O., WORKING IN CONCERT WITH THE C.I.O
AND COUNTY COUNSEL, TO EXAMINE MEASURES IN EXISTING
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND SECURITY POLICIES REGARDING
PROTECTION OF SENSITIVE AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION AND
REVIEW THE FEASIBILITY OF DEVELOPING ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS AND
POLICIES TO FURTHER STRENGTHEN THE PROTECTION OF THIS
INFORMATION WHICH IS SHARED WITH CONTRACTORS. SUCH REVIEW
SHALL INCLUDE A COMPREHENSIVE INVENTORY AND RISK ASSESSMENT OF
COUNTY VENDORS WHO ARE PRIVY TO SENSITIVE AND CONFIDENTIAL
RECORDS, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS, BIRTH DATES AND SO FORTH.
SUCH INVENTORY AND ANALYSIS SHALL INCLUDE, BUT NOT BE LIMITED
TO, THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS UTILIZING COUNTY-OWNED COMPUTERS
AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND A ROUTINE COURSE
OF BUSINESS TO THE NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS WITH THE CAPABILITY
OF ASSESSING OR DOWNLOADING EMPLOYEE OR CLIENT CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION FROM COUNTY DATA SYSTEMS. THE NUMBER OF
CONTRACTORS WHOSE OWN COMPUTERS CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION PERTINENT TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES, OUR CLIENTS, THE
NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO PORTABLE STORAGE
DEVICES, MOBILE HARD DRIVES, FLASH DRIVES, AND SO FORTH,
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CONTAINING ANY CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION RELEVANT TO COUNTY
EMPLOYEES OR RECIPIENTS OF COUNTY SERVICES, DETERMINING WHICH
INSTANCES CONFIDENTIAL EMPLOYEE AND/OR CLIENT INFORMATION IS
NECESSARY TO BE ACCESSIBLE BY OR GIVEN TO CONTRACTORS,
DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF ENCRYPTING CONFIDENTIAL
INFORMATION AS A REGULAR COURSE OF BUSINESS AND ONLY MAKING IT
ACCESSIBLE UPON THE DEPARTMENT HEAD'S WRITTEN AUTHORIZATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TRY TO GET SO
THAT WE DON'T SAY "WELL IT'S NOT MY FAULT. I DIDN'T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT IT." A CONTRACTOR WHO GETS OUR SOCIAL SECURITY
NUMBERS-- I SAY OUR, I MEAN ANY COUNTY EMPLOYEES' SOCIAL
SECURITY NUMBERS, OR ANY OF THAT CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
SHOULD BE APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OF THAT DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE ANYONE WHO IS GETTING CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, IT
SHOULD ONLY BE IF IT WAS REVIEWED AND DETERMINED BY THE
DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT IT IS NECESSARY. SO THIS IS MY MOTION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT.
SUP. BURKE: AMENDMENT TO 22, AND I MOVE 22 AS AMENDED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SECONDED BY ANTONOVICH. WITHOUT
OBJECTION, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO OBJECTION? UNANIMOUS
VOTE.
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JON FULLENWIDER: THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S ITEM 22.
SUP. BURKE: I'LL CALL UP ITEM 25.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ITEM 25?
SUP. BURKE: I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS TO THE GREEN
BUILDING REPORT AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CERTAINLY THE
DIRECTOR OF PLANNING PUBLIC WORKS, INTERNAL SERVICES ARE GOING
TO BE INVOLVED IN. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OVER AT
M.T.A. I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB HERE. BUT AT M.T.A. IN
SOME OF OUR BUILDINGS AS THEY'VE GONE FORWARD HAVE BEEN ABLE
TO ESTABLISH HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY AND IT'S BEEN
REALLY AT THE FOREFRONT. AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS HERE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ACTUALLY GET SOME IDEA OF EXACTLY HOW
YOU SEE THIS IS GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. AND, FIRST OF ALL,
IT'S A FIVE-YEAR PHASE-IN OF NEW PROCUREMENT POLICIES. AND I'D
LIKE TO REALLY FIND OUT HOW THE PROCUREMENT POLICIES WILL BE
ABLE TO GIVE US SOME ASSURANCE ON LEADS AND OTHER AREAS.
PAUL MCCARTHY: THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR. THAT PROCUREMENT POLICY
IS BEING IMPLEMENTED BY OUR I.S.D. PEOPLE. AND MR. LAMBERTSON
IS HERE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
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SUP. BURKE: ALSO, COULD YOU -- ALSO IN TERMS OF THE WATER,
SOME OF THE WATER ISSUES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND FACING.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS
DAVE LAMBERTSON, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE INTERNAL SERVICES
DEPARTMENT. SUPERVISOR, IN JUNE WE ISSUED A FAIRLY
COMPREHENSIVE PURCHASING POLICY THAT HAD A WIDE RANGE OF
INITIATIVES IN IT, SOME OF WHICH INCLUDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF
AGREEMENT CATALOGS THAT HAD GREEN OR ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE
ITEMS IN THEM, SAFE PRODUCTS FOR OUR CLEANING CONTRACTORS THAT
WE USE IN THE BUILDINGS. BUT WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED A CONSULTANT
TO HELP US OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS PRIORITIZE WHAT WE OUGHT
TO BE DOING. IT'S A CONSULTANT THAT ALSO WORKED WITH THE STATE
IN FORMULATING THEIR POLICY, SO THAT WE GET ALL THE LITTLE
HANGING FRUIT FIRST. AND THOSE ARE TYPICALLY GREEN ITEMS THAT
YOU CAN BUY AT A NO COST DIFFERENTIAL. AND OVER THE NEXT
SEVERAL YEARS DEVELOP MORE SOPHISTICATED AND EXPANSIVE
PURCHASING POLICIES TO INSURE THAT ALL OF OUR PURCHASING
PRACTICES REFLECT ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE PRACTICES.
SUP. BURKE: NOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF,
FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF OUR CONSTRUCTION AND TO DETERMINE
EXACTLY WHETHER THESE-- THERE ARE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WERE SET
UP AND WE'VE ADOPTED, WHETHER THEY'RE BEING ACTUALLY UTILIZED
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AND IF THEY'RE IN THE PROJECT OR IF THEY'RE BEING-- BECAUSE SO
OFTEN WE DO END UP BEING-- RE-LEASING BUILDINGS, OFTEN. SO
THEY'RE BEING DEVELOPED BY OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS THAT WE LEASE.
WHAT SAFEGUARDS CAN WE SET UP TO MONITOR THAT?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I COULDN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE
AREAS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION. IN THE AREA OF REMODELS AND
REFURBISHMENT, MUCH OF WHICH IS DONE IN MY ORGANIZATION. WE'RE
CREATING A DIGITAL DASHBOARD TO MONITOR EACH ONE OF THOSE
PROJECTS TO DETERMINE TO WHAT EXTENT WE ARE COMPLYING WITH
GREEN STANDARDS AS THEY RELATE TO EXISTING BUILDINGS. I WOULD
ASK THEM TO REFERENCE WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE AREA OF
CONSTRUCTION.
PAUL MCCARTHY: SUPERVISOR BURKE, I'M PAUL MCCARTHY,
SUPERVISING REGIONAL PLANNER, DEPARTMENT OF REGIONAL PLANNING.
IN TALKING TO THE I.S.D. STAFF PREVIOUSLY, I WAS INFORMED THAT
IN THE '07/'08 BUDGET, THERE ARE 20 BUILDINGS BEING
CONSTRUCTED BY THE COUNTY WHICH WILL MEET LEAD SILVER
STANDARDS. AND THERE'S HOPE THAT THEY WILL RETROFIT THE--
COMPLETE THE RETROFITTING OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
BUILDING AND THE I.S.D. HEADQUARTERS AND THAT THEY WILL MEET
THE LEAD EXISTING BUILDING RETROFIT STANDARDS.
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SUP. BURKE: AND IF WE HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE DEVELOPING
BUILDINGS FOR LEASE TO US, ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THOSE SAME
REQUIREMENTS?
PAUL MCCARTHY: UNDER THE BOARD MOTION FROM JANUARY 16TH OF
THIS YEAR, THE BOARD MOTION STATES THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE ALL
NEW BUILDINGS OF AT LEAST 10,000 GROSS SQUARE FEET IN SIZE
THAT ARE AUTHORIZED AND FULLY FUNDED ON OR AFTER FEBRUARY 15TH
OF '07 TO ACHIEVE AT LEAST THE LEADERSHIP IN ENERGY AND
ENVIRONMENTAL SILVER LEVEL OF CERTIFICATION. SO IF THE COUNTY
HAS BUILT THE BUILDING, THEN IT WOULD MEET THAT-- HAVE TO MEET
THAT REQUIREMENT.
SUP. BURKE: OR IF WE'RE GOING TO BE A LESSEE.
PAUL MCCARTHY: IT DOES NOT ADDRESS LESSEES IN THAT MOTION.
SUP. BURKE: I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO
BE SURE. BECAUSE OUR WHOLE MOVEMENT IS TOWARDS LEASING
BUILDINGS TODAY. AND CERTAINLY THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HOLD OUT
THAT PEOPLE OFTEN SEE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BEING LEASED
BECAUSE THE PAYMENTS ARE __________. AS A RESULT WE MOVE AWAY
FROM ACTUAL OWNERSHIP. SO I DO THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDINGS, AS WELL, MEET THE
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SAME STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF LEADS AND IN TERMS OF
SOME OF THOSE WATER STANDARDS AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
PAUL MCCARTHY: SUPERVISOR, I DON'T BELIEVE THE LEAD
CERTIFICATION THAT WE ADOPTED AS PART OF THE ENERGY POLICY
INCLUDED LEASED BUILDING. I THINK IT'S A VERY VALID POINT THAT
WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT. I THINK MY OFFICE, IN CONJUNCTION WITH
BILL, COULD EXAMINE THAT AND REPORT BACK ON HOW WE'D
INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR LEASE ARRANGEMENTS.
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: THAT WOULD BE OUR REQUEST, BECAUSE WHEN IT
COMES TO A NEW BUILDING, THERE'S ONE APPROACH WE CAN TAKE OR A
BUILDING THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION OR WILL BE
CONSTRUCTED. FOR SOME OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS IN THE COUNTY, IT
CREATES AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CHALLENGE.
SUP. BURKE: RIGHT.
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO-- WE ASK THAT WE COULD
REPORT BACK ON THAT.
SUP. BURKE: NOW WITH THE LEAD STANDARDS, WILL THERE BE AN
UPDATING OF THOSE STANDARDS AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES? AND IS
THERE A PROCESS SET UP WHERE WE CAN UPDATE OUR STANDARDS ON
LEADS? OR IS IT PERMANENT? OR HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK?
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PAUL MCCARTHY: IT'S ONGOING. LEAD STANDARDS ARE UPDATED ON AN
ONGOING BASIS AS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND APPROACHES ARE MADE
AVAILABLE.
SUP. BURKE: I THINK THAT WE HAVE-- WE HAVE A COUPLE MOTIONS.
WE'RE GOING THE PASS THEM OUT. AND YOU'LL HAVE REPORTS BACK
ABOUT QUARTERLY?
PAUL MCCARTHY: WE REPORT BACK EVERY SIX MONTHS ON ALL ASPECTS
OF THE COUNTY'S ENERGY POLICY, INCLUDING LEAD, PURCHASING,
PUBLIC OUTREACH.
SUP. BURKE: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THAT TO BE QUARTERLY SO WE CAN
KEEP UP TO DATE?
PAUL MCCARTHY: ABSOLUTELY.
SUP. BURKE: I THINK THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD
BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. ALSO ON THIS IS THAT WE HAVE THE
WHOLE CONCEPT IN TERMS-- AND I GUESS THE C.I.O. IS THE ONE
THAT WE SHOULD ASK THESE QUESTIONS OF-- IN TERMS OF OUR
COMPUTERS AND THE UTILIZATION OF THE TECHNOLOGY ISSUES THAT
TODAY, AS I UNDERSTAND, THAT THE ELECTRONIC PRODUCT
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EVALUATE THE COMPUTERS. NOW, IS THAT DONE BY YOUR OFFICE, OR
IS THAT DONE BY THE C.I.O.?
PAUL MCCARTHY: THAT'S DONE BY MY OFFICE. THE PROGRAM YOU'RE
REFERENCING IS E.P.E.T.E. WE ARE EXAMINING THAT NOW ALONG WITH
ALL THE OTHER STANDARDS THAT WE'D LIKE TO ESTABLISH FOR GREEN
CATALOGS, WHETHER IT'S CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS OR ELECTRONICS.
WE HAVE SOME REQUESTS OUT TO THE VENDOR COMMUNITY NOW. IN
ADDITION TO THEIR ABILITY TO MEET E.P.E.T.E STANDARD, WHICH
WE'D LIKE TO STANDARDIZE ON, WE ALREADY HAVE AN ENERGY STAR
REQUIREMENT THAT YOUR BOARD ADOPTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHICH
INCLUDES COMPUTERS. AND WE'RE ALSO SEEKING INFORMATION ON
ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY PACKAGING FOR ALL THE COMPUTER
PRODUCTS BECAUSE THEY CONSUME, AS MAY YOU WELL KNOW, AN
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF STYROFOAM WHEN YOU OPEN THOSE BOXES. AND
WE'RE LOOKING FOR ULTIMATE DELIVERY METHODS WITH ALL OF OUR
MANUFACTURERS.
SUP. BURKE: NOW WILL THAT APPLY TO ALL OF OUR COMPUTERS? I
MEAN THE COMPUTERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, ALL OF THOSE
ACQUIRED BY ALL DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS--?
PAUL MCCARTHY: ALL THE COMPUTERS IN THE COUNTY ARE ACQUIRED
THROUGH MY OFFICE, SO THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES.
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SUP. BURKE: SO THEY'LL ALL BE SUBJECT TO THOSE SAME
RECOMMENDATIONS?
PAUL MCCARTHY: YES.
SUP. BURKE: AND RULES AND AN EVALUATION.
PAUL MCCARTHY: YES.
SUP. BURKE: I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A REPORT BACK IN THE 45 DAYS
TO THE EXTENT OF HOW THIS IS BEING IMPLEMENTED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY.
SUP. BURKE: I'LL PASS OUT THE MOTIONS AND I THINK BASICALLY
THAT'S ALL THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I ALSO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THIS. I
WON'T READ THE WHOLE THING. BUT IF MY STAFF WOULD PASS IT OUT.
I'LL JUST READ THE RESOLVE AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE SUPERVISOR
KNABE. I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GET A HEART ATTACK. I DIDN'T
FORGET. WE THEREFORE MOVE-- AND THIS IS JOINTLY BY ME AND
SUPERVISOR MOLINA. WE THEREFORE MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF
SUPERVISORS ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FOLLOWING
MODIFICATIONS. ONE, PREPARE AND SUBMIT WITHIN 60 DAYS
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ORDINANCES ADDRESSING GREEN BUILDING AND LOW IMPACT
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND
ANY OTHER APPROPRIATE BODY THAT ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE STAFF
RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN TODAY'S REPORT AS WELL AS THE
BOARD'S DISCUSSION ON THIS ISSUE. TWO, IN ADDITION TO THE
RECOMMENDED L.I.D. PROVISIONS FOR DISCRETIONARY PROJECTS, ADD
PROVISIONS ADDRESSING L.I.D. REQUIREMENTS FOR NONDISCRETIONARY
DEVELOPMENTS IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE SUBMITTED TO THE REGIONAL
PLANNING COMMISSION. THREE, INCORPORATE L.I.D. STANDARDS INTO
PUBLIC WORKS ROAD AND FLOOD DESIGN AND MAINTENANCE MANUALS AS
SOON AS PRACTICABLE BUT NO LATER THAN 2009. FOUR, CONDUCT
OUTREACH WITH PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS AND TOWN COUNCILS,
BUILDING INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES, UTILITIES AND ENVIRONMENTAL
GROUPS OWNERSHIP AND ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS PRIOR TO SUBMITTING
THE DRAFT ORDINANCE TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION. FIVE,
PREPARE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF THE VARIOUS L.I.D.
REQUIREMENTS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE
PRIOR TO ITS SUBMITTAL TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SIX, IN ORDER TO ADDRESS WATER AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY
MEASURES AS A COHERENT POLICY ACTION, INCORPORATE THE BOARD'S
PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE
INTO THE AFOREMENTIONED DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT IS TO BE
SUBMITTED TO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION WITHIN 90 DAYS.
MISS BURKE ACCEPTS THAT?
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SUP. BURKE: YES.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SECONDED BY MISS BURKE. MR. KNABE?
SUP. KNABE: SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH AND I HAVE A MOTION AS WELL.
I'LL LET HIM READ IT. THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE OBVIOUSLY IN
REGARDS TO THE CONVERSATION HERE ON ITEM 25, STRONG CONCERNS
ABOUT THE POTENTIAL COST IMPACT TO PARTICULARLY THE SINGLE
FAMILY HOME BUYER. I THINK THAT'S PART OF OUR MOTION, AS WELL,
TOO. BUT THE OTHER THING WE'LL DISCUSS LATER AS IT RELATES TO
ITEM 13, MR. YAROSLAVSKY'S MOTION ABOUT COOL COUNTIES OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A.B.32 AND
ITEM 13, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR
AS IMPLEMENTATION?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: DO YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THAT?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SURE, GO AHEAD. IT'S INTERCONNECTED.
SUP. KNABE: IT'S CONNECTED.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: IF YOU'D PERMIT ME, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU KIND
OF A ONE MINUTE GENERAL ANSWER FIRST AND THEN THE SPECIFIC. IN
MY VIEW, COOL COUNTIES IS CONSISTENT WITH A.B.32 AS WELL AS
THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED, S.305, I THINK.
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IN JUNE OF '06, WHICH ESTABLISHED A 50 PERCENT-- I'M SORRY, AN
80 PERCENT GREENHOUSE REDUCTION GOAL BY THE YEAR 2050, WHICH
IS BASICALLY WHAT'S EMBEDDED IN THE COOL COUNTIES PLEDGE. I
BELIEVE IT'S JUST REALLY A COMMITMENT BY LOCAL-- IT STARTED
WITH CITIES, BUT NOW COUNTIES, ACROSS THE NATION TO ENDORSE
THE TYPES OF INITIATIVES THAT S.B.32-- I MEAN A.B.32, RATHER,
AND THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER, ENVISIONS. IT'S JUST A
NATIONAL OUTREACH RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT'S STRICTLY WITHIN
CALIFORNIA. I THINK SIX COUNTIES SO FAR WITHIN CALIFORNIA HAVE
ADOPTED IT. IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED
OR THAT YOU'RE PLEDGING TO DO, ONE IS THE CREATION OF CARBON
FOOTPRINT, IF YOU WOULD, OF AN INVENTORY OF YOUR EMISSIONS. WE
ARE ALREADY DOING THAT AS A RESULT OF THE ENERGY POLICY THAT
THE BOARD ADOPTED BY JOINING IN THE CALIFORNIA CLIMATE
REGISTRY. AND IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S
ULTIMATELY REQUIRED BY A.B.32. THE SECOND INITIATIVE DEALT
WITH COLLABORATING WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES IN REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. WE'RE DOING
THAT AS PART OF THE COUNTY'S ENERGY POLICY. THE THIRD ELEMENT
WAS TO IDENTIFY YOUR VULNERABILITIES WITHIN A COUNTY AND
CREATE A PLAN, YOUR VULNERABILITIES AS IT RELATES TO
EMISSIONS, AND TO CREATE A PLAN TO ADDRESS THOSE. IT BASICALLY
TAKES THE FORM OF A FAIRLY SIMPLE CHECKLIST THAT THEY ASK YOU
TO FILL OUT IN THE AREA OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WHICH INCLUDES
RETROFITS, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY DONE, RENEWABLE ENERGY,
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FLEETS VEHICLES-- IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU USING ULTIMATE AND
CLEAN USE FUELS?-- YOUR LAND USE POLICIES ET CETERA. IT'S JUST
A CHECKLIST OF THE INITIATIVES THAT YOU'RE UNDERTAKING TO
REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. AND THE FINAL AREA DEALT WITH
URGING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO INCREASE THE CORPORATE
AVERAGE FUEL EFFICIENCY OR CAFE STANDARD, I THINK, TO 35 MILES
PER GALLON. LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING I THINK ALL THE ELEMENTS
OF COOL COUNTIES ARE CONSISTENT, VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
A.B.32--
SUP. KNABE: AND THEY'RE REASONABLE AND ATTAINABLE?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THIS IS ATTAINABLE.
I'D BE LYING TO YOU IF I THOUGHT WE COULD DO IT. I THINK IT'S
UNAVOIDABLE. I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO ACHIEVE IT. THE 80 PERCENT
OBJECTIVE IS, IN MOST LITERATURE, WHAT THE SCIENTIFIC
COMMUNITY BELIEVES YOU HAVE TO ACHIEVE BY 2050 IN ORDER TO
HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MITIGATION ON THE IMPACT OF GLOBAL CLIMATE
CHANGE. SO IT'S UNAVOIDABLE. I THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT.
SUP. KNABE: FOLLOW UP ON ITEM 25 TO REGIONAL PLANNING.
OBVIOUSLY THE L.I.D.S ARE DRAINAGE-RELATED STANDARDS THAT CAN
BE ADDED TO THE COUNTY CODE TO REGULATE DEVELOPMENT. WHILE
BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THE CONCEPT, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE
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COST TO THE HOMEOWNERS TO MEET THESE STANDARDS? DO WE HAVE ANY
IDEA?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: WITH REGARD TO THE L.I.D. STANDARDS, IT WOULD
BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE DESIGN OF THE SUBDIVISION AND
PROBABLY WOULD BE REALLY ALMOST NO COST TO THE INDIVIDUAL
HOMEOWNER, THE PROSPECTIVE BUYER BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
INCORPORATED IN-- RATHER THAN DO THE GRADING UNDER PLAN A,
THEY WOULD DO THE GRADING UNDER PLAN B, RATHER THAN DESIGN THE
DRAINAGE SYSTEM UNDER PLAN A, THEY WOULD DESIGN IT UNDER PLAN
B. THE COST FOR L.I.D.S ARE MINIMAL, PERHAPS NONEXISTENT.
SUP. KNABE: REGARDLESS, SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION, YOU DO
PLAN EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO HOMEOWNER GROUPS?
PAUL MCCARTHY: YES, YES. NOW, AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE,
WE'RE NOT GOING TO EMBARK UPON A PROGRAM TO GO INTO EXISTING
NEIGHBORHOODS AND DEMAND THAT THEY RETROFIT. SOME RETROFITTING
IS BEING DONE. FOR EXAMPLE, LOS ANGELES CITY, ADJACENT TO
RIVERSIDE DRIVE WHERE SOME OF THOSE SIDE STREETS GO DIRECTLY
INTO THE L.A. RIVER? THEY HAVE GONE IN WITH L.I.D.S
RETROFITTING USING FEDERAL GRANTS. SO THOSE KINDS. AND THERE'S
NO ADDITIONAL COST. NO COST TO RESIDENTS OF THOSE
NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO DEMAND THAT
RESIDENTS RETROFIT EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
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SUP. KNABE: MIKE, WILL YOU BRING IN THE MOTION?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT SAME POINT THAT
YOU WERE RAISING, THEN I'LL READ THE MOTION. RELATIVE TO--
YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY COSTS INCREASE FOR
THE PERMITTING PROCESS, WHEN YOU ADOPT THESE NEW PROCEDURES AT
THE ISSUE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT TIME? THE COSTS WILL BE THE
SAME?
PAUL MCCARTHY: THERE MAY BE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE COST FOR
THE FEE. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TO THE BUYER IN A
DEVELOPMENT. THE L.I.D. SHOULD NOT HAVE AN APPRECIABLE COST
INCREASE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: BUT THERE COULD BE AN INCREASE WHEN YOU PICK
UP THE PERMIT.
PAUL MCCARTHY: THERE COULD BE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AND IS THERE AN INCREASE IN THE TIME FOR YOUR
PERMIT?
PAUL MCCARTHY: WE DON'T SEE AN APPRECIABLE INCREASE, 10, 15
PERCENT, AT MOST.
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SUP. ANTONOVICH: SO IT COULD BE DELAYED 10 TO 15 PERCENT
LONGER. WHAT IS THE CURRENT TIMEFRAME TO GET A PERMIT IF YOU'
GOING TO BUILD ONE HOUSE, AND WHAT WOULD IT BE IF YOU WERE
GOING TO BUILD TEN HOUSES?
PAUL MCCARTHY: WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD ONE HOME ON AN
EXISTING LOT, L.I.D. WOULD NOT BE A FACTOR AT THIS POINT IN
TIME. IT'S FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS. WHEN THE SUBDIVISIONS ARE
COMING IN TO BE CONSIDERED AND THOSE DESIGN PLANS ARE BEING
REVIEWED, THE DESIGN WOULD BE DONE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENTLY, QUITE
A BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE. ONE OF THE
MAJOR CONCEPTS-- THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT UNDER THE
CURRENT APPROACH, WE TRY TO WITHDRAW THE WATER FROM THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE TRY TO GET IT OFF
THE ROOF INTO THE GUTTER, DOWN THE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY, INTO THE
DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND THEN INTO THE RIVER AND OUT TO THE OCEAN.
THAT'S THE CURRENT APPROACH. THE NEW APPROACH WOULD BE TO
DESIGN THE GRADING SYSTEM DIFFERENTLY SO THAT THE WATER WOULD
HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND AND RECHARGE
THE SUBTERRANEAN AQUIFERS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. AND SO
BASICALLY AS STAFF AND THE PRIVATE ENGINEERING COMMUNITY
BECOME INCREASINGLY FAMILIAR WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS
APPROACH, I THINK THE REVIEW TIME WILL EVENTUALLY BE EXACTLY
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WHAT IT IS TODAY. INITIALLY THERE MAY BE, BUT IT'S GOING TO
WORK ITS WAY DOWN.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THIS IS WHERE SUPERVISOR KNABE AND I HAVE
THAT CONCERN. SO IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF PUTTING
WATERLESS TOILET URINALS IN THE COUNTY FACILITIES?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: YES. WE'RE PILOTING A PROJECT AT EASTERN AS
WE SPEAK TO GET REACTION AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS. I BELIEVE
THEY'RE GREAT WATER CONSERVERS. SO BASED ON THE PILOT RESULTS,
WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PROGRAM.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: SUPERVISOR KNABE AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER
THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT BEFORE THE COUNTY ADOPTS THE NEW
GREENING BUILDING AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THAT
STAFF AND REGIONAL PLANNING ASSESS THE IMPACTS UPON INDIVIDUAL
PROPERTY OWNERS AND FUTURE HOME BUYERS. SECURING APPROVALS AND
PERMITS FROM THE VARIOUS AGENCIES FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING
ON AN EXISTING LEGAL LOT, IT COULD BE AN INTIMIDATING PROCESS,
ESPECIALLY FOR A HOMEOWNER SEEKING TO MODIFY OWNER-OCCUPIED
PROPERTY FOR PERSONAL USE. ACCOMMODATION OF MULTIPLE SEPARATE
FILINGS AND REVIEW FEES AS WELL AS CHARGES FROM ENGINEERS AND
ARCHITECTS OFTEN EXCEED $20,000 FOR ONE HOME. THE LOT SPLIT IS
INVOLVED, COMBINED FEES ARE THEN BETWEEN 50 AND $100,000.
ENTIRE REVIEW PROCESS FROM SUBMITTAL OF A PARCEL MAP
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APPLICATION TO ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT OFTEN TAKES MORE
THAN TWO YEARS. BEFORE THE COUNTY ADOPTS ADDITIONAL STANDARDS
RELATIVE TO GREEN BUILDINGS OR LOW IMPACT DESIGN, WE NEED TO
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACTS UPON THE HOMEOWNER THAT'S
ATTEMPTING TO BUILD SMALLER, MODEST PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY NEW
HOUSING. THE COST OF HOUSING IN L.A. COUNTY IS THE HIGHEST IN
THE NATION. AS THE PRICE OF HOUSING ESCALATES, THE DREAM OF
OWNING ONE'S HOME IS BECOMING MORE OF A DISTANT REALITY FOR
MANY OF OUR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHILE THE COST TO REAL
PROPERTY IS LARGELY BEYOND COUNTY CONTROL, THE APPLICATION
REVIEW FEES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THE COUNTY IMPOSES
BEAR DIRECTLY UPON THE COST OF NEW HOUSING. IT IS THEREFORE
IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNTY ASSESS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON ANY
DECISIONS RELATIVE TO THESE PROPOSED STANDARDS. SO WE WOULD
MOVE THAT THE BOARD AMEND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO DIRECT
THE REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION TO EVALUATE THE ECONOMIC
IMPACTS UPON PROPERTY OWNERS OF SMALL, NONDISCRETIONARY
PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY OWNERS OF AN INDIVIDUAL LOT ATTEMPTING
TO CONSTRUCT A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING FOR THEIR PERSONAL USE
AND ALL PROPOSED GREEN BUILDING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS, DIRECT THE-- ALSO DIRECTING THE REGIONAL PLANNING
COMMISSION TO EVALUATE THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS UPON PROPERTY
OWNERS OF SMALLER PROJECTS THAT REQUIRE A DISCRETIONARY
APPROVAL, INCLUDING PROJECTS SUBJECT TO A PLAT PLAN REVIEW,
DIRECTOR'S REVIEW, COMMUNITY STANDARDS DISTRICT MODIFICATION,
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MINOR C.U.P.S, PARCEL MAPS AND SIMILAR PROJECTS THAT ARE LESS
IMPACTING UPON EXISTING COMMUNITIES OF ALL PROPOSED GREEN
BUILDING AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AND DIRECT THE
C.E.O. TO PREPARE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF PROPOSED GREEN
BUILDING LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO QUANTIFY THE
ADDITIONAL COSTS OF SUCH STANDARDS UPON FUTURE HOME BUYERS.
SUP. BURKE: WOULD YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ADD TO THAT "TO
REPORT BACK IN TWO WEEKS ON THE ADVISABILITY OF EXEMPTING
SINGLE-FAMILY OWNERS?"
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THAT'S FINE.
PAUL MCCARTHY: SUPERVISOR BURKE, UNDER OUR CURRENT APPROACH,
SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES WILL NOT COME INTO THE PROGRAM UNTIL 2010.
THEY WILL BE EXEMPT THROUGH 2008 AND 2009.
SUP. BURKE: WELL, IN THAT CASE, THEN, SIMPLY SAY THAT--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: UNDER THE AMENDMENT I'VE MADE IT WOULD
BE LOOKED AT BY THE--
SUP. BURKE: IT WOULD BE REVIEWED WHEN IT COMES IN PRIOR TO
2010.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S CORRECT.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT. NOW, ARE THERE LISTS OF INCENTIVES THAT
YOU'RE PROVIDING?
PAUL MCCARTHY: WE DON'T HAVE ANY INCENTIVES IN THE COUNTY FROM
THE STANDPOINT OF GIVING INDIVIDUALS FINANCIAL INCENTIVES
DIRECTLY FROM THE COUNTY. THERE ARE INCENTIVES FROM THE
VARIOUS UTILITIES OUT THERE. AND WE WOULD PROPOSE IN OUR-- ON
OUR WEBSITE TO DEVELOP A LOCATION THAT A PROSPECTIVE BUYER
DEVELOPER COULD GO TO, TO FIND OUT WHERE ALL OF THOSE TAX
REBATES AND VARIOUS INCENTIVES ARE FROM THE EDISON AND GAS
COMPANY AND D.W.P.
SUP. BURKE: AND I DO WANT TO GET-- UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WOULD
IN NO WAY AFFECT OUR STANDARDS IN TERMS OF OUR BUILDINGS,
CORRECT? THIS AMENDMENT?
PAUL MCCARTHY: CORRECT. THIS PROPOSAL IS ADDRESSING THE
PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT ADDRESSING THE LEASING
ISSUE THAT WAS DISCUSSED A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: MR. CHAIRMAN, I ALSO HAVE MORE.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: GO AHEAD.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AFTER HER.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SHE'S DONE. MIKE?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: RELATIVE TO THE E.P. PROGRAM AND SUPERVISOR
BURKE'S AMENDMENT, HOW LONG HAS THE E.P.E.T.E. PROGRAM BEEN IN
EFFECT?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: WE'RE NOT IN THE E.P. PROGRAM NOW. WE'RE
EXAMINING THE FEASIBILITY OF CREATING THAT AS A STANDARD. THE
STANDARD ITSELF I THINK IS A COUPLE YEARS.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: A COUPLE YEARS? AND HOW MANY COUNTIES AND
CITIES ARE IN THIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT REQUIRE ALL
PURCHASES OF COMPUTERS MEET THESE STANDARDS?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S PART OF THE EXAMINATION
WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN TERMS OF THE FEASIBILITY OF
IMPLEMENTING IT. I KNOW THAT 90 MANUFACTURERS ARE CERTIFIED AT
ONE LEVEL OR ANOTHER ALREADY.
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SUP. ANTONOVICH: DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE ANNUAL
COST OF REQUIRING ALL COMPUTERS PURCHASED MUST MEET AN
E.P.E.T.E. BRONZE PERFORMANCE RANKING?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: NO, WE DON'T AT THIS TIME.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THEN COULD WE, SUPERVISOR BURKE'S MOTION,
HAVE THAT AS A REPORT BACK SO WE CAN GET THOSE COSTS?
SUP. BURKE: IT IS A REPORT IN 45 DAYS. AND THE FEASIBILITY OF
REQUIRING THAT ON ALL REQUESTS RESULTS FROM SOLICITATION AND
ACQUISITION. AND WE COULD ALSO INCLUDE TO REPORT BACK ON ANY
ADDITIONAL COSTS OR SAVINGS.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: IF I COULD JUST PROVIDE ONE FRAMEWORK. FOR
EVERYTHING IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PURCHASING POLICY NOW IS AN
ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL APPROACH. SO IT SAYS "ALL THINGS BEING
EQUAL, IF YOU CAN GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPUTER OR C.U.P. OR
WHATEVER, BUILDING MATERIAL, AT THE SAME COST AS THE
TRADITIONAL, YOU OUGHT TO GO GREEN." THE EXCEPTION TO THAT IS
ENERGY STAR, WHICH TELLS BUYERS TO LOOK AT THE LIFE CYCLE COST
IN DETERMINING WHAT'S THE MOST ECONOMICAL DECISION. SHOULD WE
EVER GO TO A POINT IN TIME WHERE WE'RE ASKING TO BUY MORE
EXPENSIVE PRODUCTS THAN WE OTHERWISE WOULD TO MEET A GREEN
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STANDARD, I WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD AND SEEK
PERMISSION TO DO THAT.
SUP. BURKE: I'D LIKE TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING NOW. IF THERE IS
IN A COMPUTER A CUTOFF AFTER IT'S NOT UTILIZED AFTER SUCH A
PERIOD OF TIME. FOR INSTANCE OFTEN THEY'RE NOT USED OVER THE
WEEKEND IN OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS. IF IT'S GOING, IT HAS AN
ENERGY EFFECT.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: SURE, RIGHT.
SUP. BURKE: IF THERE IS A CUTOFF, I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD
EVALUATE THE ENERGY SAVING DEVICE VERSUS THE COST OF THE
ENERGY THAT WOULD BE CONSUMED.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: IN THE CASE OF ENERGY CONSUMPTION, WE ALREADY
DO THAT BECAUSE THE BOARD ADOPTED THE ENERGY STAR STANDARD
ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. AND IN DOING SO REQUIRED A LIFE CYCLE
APPROACH WHICH INCLUDED ENERGY CONSUMPTION IN DETERMINING
WHAT'S THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE APPROACH. SO WE MAY BUY A MORE
EXPENSIVE COMPUTER THAT'S ENERGY STAR CERTIFIED, BUT OVER THE
LIFE OF THE COMPUTER, WE'LL SAVE MONEY BECAUSE IT'S USING LESS
AMPERAGE TO RUN IT.
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SUP. BURKE: ON VENDORS WHO HAVE THE KIND OF MACHINES THAT
PROVIDE COKES AND OTHER THINGS, DO WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT
THERE THAT THOSE ARE CUT OFF, TOO, UNTIL THEY'RE USED? THOSE
VENDORS WHO COME IN? BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PLACES, THEY REQUIRE
THOSE VENDORS WHO COME IN WITH MACHINES THAT SELL POTATO CHIPS
AND ALL THOSE THINGS, TO HAVE THE DEVICE ON IT SO THAT WHEN IT
IS NOT ACTUALLY IN USE, IT'S CUT OFF AND IT'S NOT ENERGY
CONSUMING?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE
COUNTY ALSO HAS SOME INITIATIVES TO HAVE BETTER FOOD PRODUCTS
IN THE MACHINES, WHICH REQUIRE, THEN, IT TO BE ON FOR COOLING
PURPOSES SO THAT THEY STAY FRESH. THEY MAY BE MUTUALLY
EXCLUSIVE. I CAN LOOK AT THAT.
SUP. BURKE: BUT THIS IS USUALLY FOR CANDY BARS AND POTATO
CHIPS AND ALL THE VENDING MACHINES THAT SOME JURISDICTIONS
REQUIRE THAT IT BE SUCH THAT WHEN YOU START TO USE IT, IT
TURNS IT ON.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I THINK IT'S A SAFE GUESS ON MY PART THAT WE
DO NOT HAVE THOSE.
SUP. BURKE: OKAY. I THINK THAT WE'LL GET THE INFORMATION FOR
YOU FROM THE JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE THEM.
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DAVE LAMBERTSON: THAT WOULD BE VERY FASCINATING TO LOOK AT.
SUP. BURKE: I'LL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT.
SUP. BURKE: AS AMENDED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SUPERVISOR MOLINA?
SUP. MOLINA: I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH THE DISCUSSION AND HOW
WELL THE DEPARTMENT IS HANDLING ALL THE QUESTIONS. IT'S MY
UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. NOW THIS IS
A DIFFICULT AND COMPREHENSIVE ISSUE BUT I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED
WITH HOW RESPONSIVE THEY HAVE BEEN, SO THANK YOU.
SUP. BURKE: WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM. WE'RE ALWAYS
THE LEADER EVERYWHERE IN L.A. COUNTY. AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE
TO BE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY.
SUP. BURKE: I'LL MOVE IT AS AMENDED.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SECOND WITH--
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: THERE'S TWO SPEAKERS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OH YES, THERE ARE--
SUP. KNABE: WITH ALL THE AMENDMENTS?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THERE ARE TWO SPEAKERS WHO WANT TO BE
HEARD. TERRA DONLON AND JAMES ALAMILLO.
TERRA DONLON: GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
BOARD. TERRA DONLON, VICE PRESIDENT OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS FOR
THE BUILDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, L.A.-VENTURA CHAPTER. AS AN
INDUSTRY, B.I.A. MEMBERS STAND READY TO WORK WITH RAJ AND PAUL
TO HELP REACH GOALS OF GREENING L.A. COUNTY, BUT I CANNOT
STRESS ENOUGH THE NEED FOR FURTHER WORK TO BE DONE ON THIS
REPORT. IN SOME AREAS, THE REPORT IS VERY VAGUE AND THE DEVIL
WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE IN THE DETAILS. AND WE ASK THAT OUR
INDUSTRY BE SEEN AS A RESOURCE AND WORK WITH YOU AS WE MOVE
FORWARD TO STRENGTHEN THESE POLICIES. IN OTHER AREAS SUCH AS
THE COUNTY WIDE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM, WE FEEL IT'S CURRENTLY
WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT THOSE OF US IN THE BUILDING
INDUSTRY ARE FEARFUL THAT COUNTY STAFF AND, IN TURN, MAYBE YOU
AS POLICYMAKERS, BELIEVE THAT THE LEAD PROGRAM IS SYNONYMOUS
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WITH GREEN BUILDING, WHICH IT IS NOT. AND WE WOULD ASK THAT
THE REMOVAL OF LEAD IN SPEAKING IN GENERAL TERMS FOR GREEN
BUILDING BE CALLED GREEN BUILDING IF THAT IS WHAT IS IN FACT
WE WOULD OUR GOAL TO BE. THERE IS A MENTION IN FOOTNOTE THAT
OTHER GREEN BUILDING PROGRAMS ARE ACCEPTABLE FOR COMPLIANCE
FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. WE WOULD ASK THAT THAT BE MADE CLEAR
THAT LEAD IS NOT THE ONLY ANSWER TO GREENING L.A. COUNTY IN
THAT RESPECT. ON A SEPARATE NOTE, WE WERE ALSO WANTING TO ASK
FOR A FISCAL ANALYSIS, SO GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE'S A MOTION
BEFORE YOU TO INCLUDE THAT WITH THE MEDIAN HOME PRICES WELL
ABOVE $500,000 IN L.A. COUNTY, AS POLICYMAKERS, YOU SHOULD BE
AWARE OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS THESE POLICIES WILL HAVE ON THE
COST OF A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. LET ME
PLEASE REITERATE THAT B.I.A.'S WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE
COUNTY TO IMPROVE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND COMBAT GLOBAL WARMING.
WE TRULY FEEL THAT A VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE-BASED APPROACH WILL
HELP ACHIEVE THESE GOALS. I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS QUICKLY
PAUL'S COMMENTS ON LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT COSTS. WE'RE
CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE L.A. REGIONAL QUALITY WATER BOARD
ON THEIR STORM WATER PERMIT AND THE INCORPORATION OF L.I.D. IN
VENTURA COUNTY. YOU GUYS WILL BE SEEING THIS COME TO YOU NEXT
AS WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT, THAT PERMIT HERE IN L.A. COUNTY.
THERE IS QUITE A COST TO LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. LOW IMPACT
DEVELOPMENT, DEPENDING ON THE WAYS IN WHICH YOU USE IT, IS
INCREASING THE PERMEABLE SURFACES, SO YOU'RE INCREASING
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DIFFERENT MATERIALS. YOU'RE ALSO-- IT'S NOT JUST A GRADING
ISSUE, IT'S THE USE OF THE LAND. DEPENDING UPON WHAT IS
ENCOURAGED, SOMETIMES WE'RE SEEN IN VENTURA COUNTY A LOT-BY-
LOT BASIS OR THE ABILITY TO DO LOT-BY-LOT, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT
LAND WOULD BE REDUCED FOR HOMES AND THEREFORE COST OF HOMES
WILL INCREASE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU. IS JAMES ALAMILLO HERE? NOT
HERE? THEN PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. WE HAVE THE ITEM BEFORE
US. MOVED BY BURKE, SECONDED BY ME. IS THERE ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION? IF NOT, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AS AMENDED.
SUP. BURKE: AS AMENDED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: AS AMENDED, ALL THE AMENDMENTS.
SUP. BURKE: THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE, I THINK.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE UP 13?
SUP. BURKE: I'LL CALL 13.
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SUP. KNABE: I HAD MY QUESTION ANSWERED ON 13. THAT WAS THE
REASON I HELD IT.
SUP. BURKE: YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE IT, THEN?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I'LL MOVE IT.
SUP. KNABE: I THINK THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE THAT HELD IT. MR.
ANTONOVICH HELD IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD ALL HIS
QUESTIONS ANSWERED. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MOVE IT. SECONDED BY
KNABE.
SUP. BURKE: THAT'S 13. YOU WERE HOLDING 13.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: LET ME ASK A QUESTION. THE ONE PROBLEM, THE
CAFE STANDARDS WITHIN 10 YEARS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE
IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES ARE FULL SIZED
VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO TRANSPORT SUSPECTS AND OTHERS.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLE IN 10 YEARS IS GOING TO
BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE THAT TYPE OF
VEHICLE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES, AND I WOULD ASSUME SOME
OTHER AGENCIES, AS WELL.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MR. LAMBERTSON, DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO
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DAVE LAMBERTSON: THE COOL COUNTY PROGRAM REQUESTS COUNTIES TO
SEEK FEDERAL SUPPORT FOR RAISING THE CAFE STANDARDS. THOSE
HAVE HISTORICALLY APPLIED TO LIGHT TRUCKS AND PASSENGER
VEHICLES. I BELIEVE PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES ARE EXCLUDED. I'LL
CONFIRM THAT AND REPORT BACK.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: BUT THEY'RE STILL FULL SIZED VEHICLES.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I BELIEVE THAT THEY HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN
EXCLUDED FROM THOSE STANDARDS. I'VE GOT TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
IT ALSO EXCLUDES ANY VEHICLE THAT'S OVER 8,500 POUNDS, SO AS
NOT TO IMPACT FARMERS. THAT DID INCLUDE SOME OF THE HEAVIER
S.U.V.S AS TIME--
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WHAT IS THE WEIGHT OF A--? WHAT DO WE USE
NOW, CHEVROLETS AND FORDS FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT USUALLY? WHAT IS THE WEIGHT FOR FORD
VICTORIA AND THE I'M NOT SURE OF CHEVROLET MODEL?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC WEIGHT. I THINK I
CAN GUARANTEE YOU IT'S LESS THAN 8,500 POUNDS.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: ABOUT HOW MANY?
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DAVE LAMBERTSON: IT'S LESS THAN 8,500 POUNDS.
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: WHAT DAVE IS REFERRING TO IN THIS INSTANCE,
IT'S THE FUNCTION THAT'S BEING PERFORMED. AND SO THEY MAY BE
ABLE TO VERIFY THAT, AN EXEMPTION FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLE.
EVEN THOUGH IT DOES FALL IN CATEGORY OF A PASSENGER CAR,
BECAUSE OF THE FUNCTION THAT'S BEING PERFORMED, THAT'S
PROBABLY THE BASIS FOR THE EXEMPTION. BUT WE'LL VERIFY THAT.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: AND I WOULD ADD THAT THE COOL COUNTY
INITIATIVE SEEKS SUPPORT FOR HIGHER CAFE STANDARDS, BUT THAT
DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS IN
THAT REGARD THAT WE THINK MAKE SENSE. AND SO IF IT'S SEEK
HIGHER STANDARD WITH EXCEPTION FOR PARTICULAR PUBLIC SAFETY
VEHICLES, YOU COULD DO THAT, OR FOR THINGS THAT THE COUNTY
THOUGHT THAT THEY OUGHT TO ADOPT AS A MATTER OF POLICY.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AND THIS GOAL WOULD ALSO BE FOR PRIVATE
INDIVIDUALS? WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING IT JUST TO PUBLIC AGENCIES'
PURCHASES?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: NO, NO, NO. THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC AT LARGE.
IT IS A STANDARD THAT SPEAKS TO WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
GOING TO REQUIRE OF AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURERS TO HAVE AS THEIR
AVERAGE FUEL EFFICIENCY WITHIN THEIR FLEET. CURRENTLY IT'S 27
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SOMETHING, I THINK? AND THEY ARE SEEKING TO RAISE THAT TO 35.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR ABOUT A DECADE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AS ONE THAT'S HAD, I GUESS, RECENT EXPERIENCE
WITH CHILDREN, CAR SEATS, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN TWO CAR
SEATS IN YOUR BACK SEAT, THERE IS NO ROOM. THE PROBLEM: WHAT
DO YOU DO WITH FAMILIES THAT HAVE THREE CHILDREN, TWO
CHILDREN? AND I THINK THOSE ARE SOME FACTORS THAT WE HAVE TO
CONSIDER. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS OUGHT NOT TO BE A GOAL
TO INCREASE MILEAGE, WHICH IT OUGHT TO BE, BUT IT'S TO
MANDATE-- I READ THIS AS MANDATING A MINIMUM OF 35 INSTEAD OF
HAVING A GOAL. I THINK YOU CAN HAVE SOME IMPACTS ON NOT JUST
SMALL FAMILIES BUT EVEN LARGER FAMILIES. I MEAN, CAR SEATS FOR
THE FIRST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I'LL HAVE TO RE-READ IT BUT I DON'T BELIEVE
THE COOL COUNTY INITIATIVE HAS ANY TIMEFRAME.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PRIVATE SECTOR,
MANDATING THAT FOR-- WE'RE SUPPORTING A PROPOSAL NOT JUST FOR
THE PUBLIC SECTOR BUT ALSO MANDATING ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
THOSE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED. HOW
DOES IT IMPACT A YOUNG FAMILY?
DAVE LAMBERTSON: I AGREE.
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SUP. ANTONOVICH: YOU PUT GRANDMA IN THE BACK SEAT. SHE'S VERY
DIFFICULT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: I'M SERIOUS. IT'S A HELL OF A PROBLEM.
SUP. BURKE: A LOT OF THEM HAVE S.U.V.S NOW, I THINK.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE OUTLAWING THAT, TOO.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT, IS THERE ANY FURTHER
DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO APPROVING ITEM 13? I
HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THANK YOU. THANKS, DAVE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: LET ME ABSTAIN ON THAT FOR THAT REASON.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: RIGHT. ABSTAIN FOR MR. ANTONOVICH. NO
PROBLEM. DAVE, THANKS FOR YOUR BEING PREPARED.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ON 13?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S 13, YES.
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SUP. BURKE: I'LL CALL UP 16.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: 16. MR. SACHS, ARE YOU STILL HERE?
SUP. BURKE: IS HE 21, ALSO?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I'M GOING TO ASK HIM TO SPEAK TO ALL OF
THEM SINCE HE'S HERE.
SUP. BURKE: WHICH ONES ARE THOSE?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: 16, 21, 24 AND 26.
SUP. BURKE: OF COURSE 26 IS HELD FOR DISCUSSION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YES, BUT ALSO HELD FOR HIM.
ARNOLD SACHS: ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO 26 AFTER THE
REPORT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. THIS IS YOUR
SHOT.
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SUP. BURKE: WE'LL CALL IT UP NEXT. WHAT WE'LL DO IS CALL IT
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING YOUR STATEMENT, WE'LL CALL IT UP.
ARNOLD SACHS: WELL I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE THREE, THAT'S
FINE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S FINE.
ARNOLD SACHS: ON 16, YES, I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT
REGARDING THE LOBBYISTS. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE L.A.
TIMES REGARDING THE SACRAMENTO LOBBYIST GETTING FUNDING FROM
GROUPS HAVING AN AGENDA THAT IS DIFFERENT OR OPPOSED TO THE
AGENDA THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING FROM THE
COUNTY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE
HAVING OUR LOBBYIST GROUP PUSH THIS AGENDA ITEM FORWARD,
THEY'RE NOT GETTING FUNDING FROM AN OPPOSING POINT OF VIEW TO
REPRESENT THEIR SIDE ALSO. AND ALSO THAT THE WASHINGTON
LOBBYISTS, WOULD THESE BE THE SAME LOBBYISTS THAT DID NOT
DEFEND THE PROVISIONS REGARDING THE V.A. HOSPITAL THAT WAS
ALSO IN THE NEWS REPORT, THAT WERE RESCINDED PRIOR TO THE
PRESIDENT SIGNING FUNDING FOR THE IRAQI DEPLOYMENT, FUNDING
FOR THE WAR, CLAIMING THAT THERE WERE SOME PROVISIONS
REGARDING THE V.A. HOSPITAL IN WEST L.A. THAT NEEDED TO BE
REMOVED, THAT THE LOBBYISTS DID NOT DEFEND, AND THAT IF THEY
WEREN'T REMOVED, THE PRESIDENT WOULD NOT SIGN THE FUNDING
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BILL? THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS REGARDING THE LOBBYISTS THAT WE
HAVE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY. ITEM 21? DO YOU WANT ME TO TALK
ON THAT?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YEAH, YOU GOT 37 SECONDS.
ARNOLD SACHS: OH, YOU'RE SPORTS. THIS IS MORE OR LESS
REGARDING SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH'S COMMENTS LAST WEEK REGARDING
FLOOD CONTROL BILLS AND BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED BY THE STATE
FOR RESERVOIRS, DAMS, RECYCLING DUE TO THE WATER SHORTAGES
THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER IF YOU PREFACED HIS REMARKS BY
STATING THAT IN THE TIME THAT THE FIVE OF YOU HAVE SPENT AS
COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE COUNTY HAS GOTTEN MILLIONS
AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF FUNDING FROM THE STATE. AND
WE'RE STILL IN THE SITUATION WE'RE IN BEC-- WHAT'S HAPPENED TO
THE MONEY. ITEM NUMBER 24, COUNTY U.S.C. SPENDING. I BELIEVE
THEY WERE BEFORE US THREE WEEKS AGO REGARDING AN INCREASE OF
COSTS FOR COUNTY U.S.C. AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU, SUPERVISOR
YAROSLAVSKY, MENTIONED THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT THAT TO COME
BEFORE THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, ASK FOR MORE MONEY AND
HERE THEY ARE COMING BEFORE THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. I'M GLAD TO SEE THEY TOOK YOU UP ON
YOUR THREAT TO HOLD DOWN THEIR EXPENSES. AND I'LL WAIT, I'D
LIKE TO WAIT ON M.L.K. HOSPITAL. THANK YOU.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU.
SUP. BURKE: IF HE COULD STAY CLOSE BY, WE'LL CALL THAT UP.
ARNOLD SACHS: I'LL STAY CLOSE BY, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE 16, 21 AND 24?
SUP. BURKE: I'LL SO MOVE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SECOND. WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS
VOTE.
SUP. BURKE: ALL RIGHT. I'LL CALL UP 26. ARE YOU GOING TO STAY
CLOSE BY, MR. SACHS?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO, HE GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I DON'T GIVE HIM THE SLACK. HE DOES THAT
INTENTIONALLY AND IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE REST OF THE WORLD
WHICH IS RELYING ON GETTING THINGS DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION
AND WE'VE RAISED IT BEFORE. DR. CHERNOF?
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS. LET ME MAKE A
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DEPARTMENT RELEASED ON FRIDAY. THE M.L.K. MACK IN THE LAST
REPORTING WEEK SAW 475 PATIENTS. THAT'S UP SLIGHTLY FROM THE
WEEK PRIOR AND A GOOD NUMBER CONSIDERING THAT ONE OF THOSE
DAYS WAS A HOLIDAY AND GENERALLY HAS LOWER-- HOLIDAYS ARE LIKE
WEEKENDS. WE GENERALLY SEE SLIGHTLY FEWER PATIENTS. THE
PRIMARY CARE AND SPECIALTY CLINIC VISITS DOWN SLIGHTLY. BUT
AGAIN THERE WAS A HOLIDAY. ONE OF THE DAYS WAS A HOLIDAY SO
THERE WERE ONLY FOUR SCHEDULED DAYS IN THAT WEEK. TWO VERY
IMPORTANT THINGS I WANTED TO COVER, HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU TODAY.
ONE IS OUR CONTINUED WORK WITH THE IMPACTED HOSPITALS. AS I'VE
SHARED WITH YOU IN PREVIOUS REPORTS, THE NUMBER OF 911
TRANSPORTS HAS GENERALLY REMAINED LEVEL SINCE THE CLOSURE OF
M.L.K. HARBOR. BUT ALL OF THE HOSPITALS CONTINUE TO REPORT A
SUSTAINED INCREASE IN AMBULANCE TRAFFIC AND THE BEDS REMAINED,
AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, BUSIER THAN USUAL FOR THIS
TIME OF YEAR. WE'RE DOING A COUPLE OF THINGS AROUND THIS THAT
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU. FIRST, THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING
WITH H.A.S.C. TO SET UP ONE OF OUR REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THE
NINE IMPACTED HOSPITALS TO REVIEW THE OPERATIONS OF THE
CONTRACTS AND TRANSFER OF PATIENTS, AND TO DISCUSS THE
MEETINGS THE D.H.S AND THE PRIVATE HOSPITALS HAD IN SACRAMENTO
WITH THE CALIFORNIA MEDICAL ASSISTANCE COMMISSION REGARDING
THE IMPACT OF THE VARIOUS E.D. AND HOSPITAL CLOSURES HAVE HAD
LOCALLY AS WELL AS THEIR ROLE IN SETTING MEDI-CAL
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THAT WE FACE HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, PARTICULARLY FOR
THOSE IMPACTED HOSPITALS, ON THEIR ABILITY TO DELIVER BOTH
EMERGENCY AND INPATIENT SERVICES. ANOTHER IMPORTANT ACTIVITY
IS, THE E.M.S. COMMISSION HAS BEEN-- AND KATHY IS HERE TO
ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM-- HAS BEEN WORKING VERY
CLOSELY WITH THE E.M.S. PROVIDERS. AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO
REPORT TO YOUR BOARD THIS WEEK-- IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. WE
THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE IT THIS WEEK BUT THE E.M.S. PROVIDERS
WANTED TIME TO VALIDATE THEIR DATA. FIRE DEPARTMENTS DON'T
NORMALLY COLLECT THE KIND OF DATA THAT WE'RE ASKING, AND I AM
CONCERNED GIVEN THAT THE FIRES THAT THEY'RE DOING FAR MORE
IMPORTANT WORK AS WE SPEAK. ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE WILL BRING
A REPORT TO THIS TABLE BY NEXT WEEK, EVEN IF IT'S ONLY
FORMATIVE IN PLACES WITH THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM
THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS. THE KEY THING TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT
AS PART OF KATHY'S WORK, THE E.M.S. PROVIDERS ARE CONTINUING
TO REPORT AN INCREASE 911 CALL VOLUME. THEY ARE REPORTING
ANECDOTALLY AND ARE GOING TO PROVIDE DATA THAT THERE ARE
LONGER TRANSPORT TIMES TO HOSPITALS. AND AS WE ALREADY KNOW
BECAUSE IT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY REPORTED LONGER WAIT TIMES AT
HOSPITALS TO TRANSFER CARE TO THE E.D. STAFF. E.M.S. STAFF
HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE E.M.S. PROVIDERS AND WE EXPECT
THAT WE WILL COME FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT JUST DATA,
WHEN WE BRING YOU THAT REPORT. WE ARE ALSO VERY MINDFUL OF THE
FACT THAT THE FLU SEASON IS NOT THAT FAR AWAY. I WANTED TO
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SPEND ONE MOMENT TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT THAT TODAY. THE WINTER
SEASON TYPICALLY BRINGS HIGHER VOLUMES IN EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENTS AND A GREATER DEMAND FOR HOSPITAL BEDS. AND WE
HAVE TAKEN A COUPLE OF STEPS NOW TO PROACTIVELY WORK WITH
HOSPITALS TO ADDRESS THIS. FIRST, WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING
WITH H.A.S.C. H.A.S.C DOES A SUPERB JOB, THE HOSPITAL
ASSOCIATIONS OF DEVELOPING AN ANNUAL WHITE PAPER THAT DEALS
WITH RECOMMENDED MANAGEMENT ACTIONS TO PREPARE HOSPITALS FOR
OVERFLOW SITUATIONS IN THE WINTER SEASON. THEY'VE RECENTLY
RELEASED THEIR UPDATED PLAN AND H.A.S.C. AND THE E.M.S. AGENCY
WILL BE DISCUSSING THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PLAN AT
THE NEXT H.A.S.C. EMERGENCY HEALTH SERVICES MEETING ON
NOVEMBER 15TH. THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME OF
THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS GET AT ACTIONS THAT HOSPITALS, BOTH
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, CAN TAKE NOW WITH RESPECT TO WAIVERS OF
STAFFING LEVELS IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS AND OTHER KINDS OF
THINGS THAT GIVE THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND WE ARE GOING TO
WORK WITH THE PRIVATE HOSPITALS TO ENCOURAGE ASKING FOR THAT
FLEXIBILITY NOW IN PREPARATION. A SECOND THING THAT WE'RE
DOING IS THE E.M.S. AGENCY IS WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF
PUBLIC HEALTH TO DISCUSS ITS ANNUAL FLU SEASON CAMPAIGN,
INCLUDING PLANS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION. WE THINK WORKING CLOSELY
WITH THEM WITH THE PRIVATE HOSPITALS AND THE E.M.S. PROVIDERS
TO GET INFORMATION OUT ABOUT WHERE FLU LOCATIONS ARE, WILL BE
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OF MONTHS. FINALLY, THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO-- WE HAVE BEEN
IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE E.M.S. COMMISSION LOOKING TO HAVE THEM
PROVIDE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AND GUIDANCE WITH RESPECT TO
ACTIONS THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO HELP FREE HOSPITAL CARE PROVIDERS
HANDLE POTENTIALLY INCREASING 911 WORKLOAD VOLUMES OVER THE
WINTER MONTHS. DR. SPLAWN, OUR SENIOR MEDICAL DIRECTOR HAS
ALREADY BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE E.M.S. COMMISSION. I'LL BE
RELEASING A LETTER TO THEM LATER THIS WEEK, AND HE AND I WILL
BE MEETING AT THEIR NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING. YOUR BOARD WAS DUE
A REPORT ON THE HARBOR U.C.L.A. URGENT CARE CENTER, AND WE
WILL-- I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TODAY, BUT WE'LL
ACTUALLY COME FORWARD WITH A BUDGETED RECOMMENDATION NEXT
WEEK. WE'RE STILL FINISHING THE DETAILS. HARBOR HAS VERY
THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THEIR WORK. THEY CURRENTLY SEE 34,800
ROUGHLY VISITS A YEAR IN THEIR URGENT CARE. IT CURRENTLY RUNS
MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8:00 TO 11:00 WEEKDAYS. WE ALREADY HAD
IN PLACE A PLAN TO EXPAND IT EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST ON
SATURDAYS FROM 10:00 TO 6:30. THE HARBOR FOLKS HAVE THOROUGHLY
REVIEWED THIS REQUEST, AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I
SUPPORT, IS THAT WE EXPAND TO SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 16 HOURS A
DAY, WHICH WILL GIVE US A TOTAL OF 11,000 ADDITIONAL URGENT
CARE VISITS. THEY SUGGEST THAT WE START THERE BECAUSE THERE
ARE FEW VISITS IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING, SAY BETWEEN
MIDNIGHT AND 6 A.M. THAT ARE REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR URGENT
CARE SETTINGS. SO BEING MINDFUL, THE FIRST STEP OF OPENING UP
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ALL SEVEN DAYS A WEEK UNTIL VERY LATE EVENING HOURS IS A GOOD
FIRST STEP. AND WE WILL REVISIT THE NEED TO INCREASE THE HOURS
BOTH AT HARBOR AND AT OUR M.L.K. MACK URGENT CARE, WHICH IS
NOW SEEING MORE VISITS THAN WE HAD INITIALLY PROJECTED. WE
WILL REVISIT THE NEED TO KEEP THEM OPEN EVEN MORE HOURS.
SUP. BURKE: I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'RE
SEEING AN IMPACT ON THESE HOSPITALS WITH THE EMERGENCY ROOM
CLOSURES. AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY OTHER HOSPITALS
CLOSING THAT ARE IN THAT WHOLE AREA, SO THAT WE DO HAVE TO
PREPARE.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT, SUPERVISOR. WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DIRECTLY
IMPACTED HOSPITALS, BUT THE ENTIRE HOSPITAL DELIVERY SYSTEM IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, EVEN BROADER THAN JUST THIS IMPACTED AREA
IS VERY FRAGILE AT THE MOMENT. AND SO WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY
WITH E.M.S. AND THE PROVIDERS TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS
WHERE WE CAN AND WHERE NECESSARY AND TO TRY TO BE THOUGHTFUL
ABOUT WHAT THIS FLU SEASON MEANS FOR US.
SUP. BURKE: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE'S DISTRICT, BUT
WHAT TENNANT DID IS, THEY PULLED OUT AND THEY SOLD THESE
HOSPITALS AND NOW THEY'RE NOT SURVIVING. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER
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IN OTHER AREAS, BUT CERTAINLY IN THE SECOND DISTRICT. TENNANT
GOT OUT AND --
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THEY'RE THREATENING TO DO THE SAME THING
IN TARZANA MEDICAL CENTER.
SUP. BURKE: ARE THEY?
WELL, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S BEEN DEVASTATING, JUST
DEVASTATING. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WE HAVE TWO MORE WHO ARE
CLOSE TO BANKRUPTCY, CENTINELA AND BROTTMAN.
>>DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: AT A PERSONAL LEVEL, SUPERVISORS, I WORRY
THAT SOME OF THE MAJOR HOSPITAL SYSTEMS HAVE EXITED SOUTHERN
CALIFORNIA, BOTH FOR PROFIT AND NOT-FOR-PROFIT, THAT THEY HAVE
SOLD HOSPITALS TO MUCH SMALLER ENTITIES THAT HAVE MUCH LESS
RESERVE THAN A LARGE SYSTEM WOULD HAVE. SOME OF THOSE ENTITIES
VERY WELL MEANING THE GOAL OF KEEPING A HOSPITAL OPEN, I
REALLY RESPECT THAT, BUT ARE POTENTIALLY WERE A LITTLE
UNDERCAPITALIZED FOR THE WORK, REALLY DIDN'T REALIZE WHAT THEY
WERE GETTING INTO, BUT I THINK THAT THE PRIVATE HOSPITAL
SYSTEM IS MUCH MORE FRAGILE IN GENERAL AS A RESULT OF THESE
SALES. SO I THINK I'M AGREEING, SUPERVISOR BURKE, WITH YOUR
OBSERVATIONS. WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH SHEILA, WITH THE
C.E.O. STAFF, WITH MISS SHIMA, TO DO TWO THINGS. WE WILL BE--
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THE C.E.O. STAFF WILL BE RELEASING A REPORT AND THE DEPARTMENT
WILL BE RELEASING A REPORT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT YOUR
BOARD RAISED LAST WEEK ABOUT FINALIZING THE STATUS OF THE H.R.
MOVEMENTS FROM KING TO THE OTHER FACILITIES, THE STATUS OF
CORRECTIVE ACTIONS, LEAVE OF ABSENCES, THE ARRAY OF QUESTIONS
WE ARE WORKING TO GET YOU DEFINITIVE ANSWERS. AND THOSE WILL
BE OUT THIS WEEK. THE FINAL COMMENT-- AND I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE
QUESTIONS-- ON OCTOBER 8TH, THE REQUEST FOR SOLUTIONS WENT
OUT, AS YOU KNOW. WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF SIX PARTIES THAT HAVE
EXPRESSED INTEREST AT THIS POINT. AND WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP
WITH YOUR BOARD AND THOSE PROVIDERS TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS TO
EXPLORE THEIR INTEREST IN POTENTIALLY REOPENING THE FACILITY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
SUP. KNABE: NO, I'M JUST GLAD TO HEAR THERE'S SIX, THOUGH,
AREAS OF INTEREST THERE. MORE THAN SHAKING THEIR HEADS, RIGHT
THEY'RE ACTUALLY SURVEYING?
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: THERE ARE SIX PARTIES, SUPERVISOR, THAT
HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST.
SUP. KNABE: AND YOUR ISSUE ABOUT THE PRIVATES MAYBE BEING
UNDERCAPITALIZED BY THE IMPACT OF THE CLOSURE OF M.L.K., THAT
DOESN'T HELP THEIR CAPITAL SITUATION VERY MUCH EITHER.
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DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: ABSOLUTELY NOT. AND ONE OF MY GREAT
CONCERNS, SUPERVISORS, AND IT'S PART OF WHY WE WENT TO MEET
WITH THE C.M.A.C. COMMISSION, THE STATE HAS TRIED TO WORK WITH
MY DEPARTMENT. I APPRECIATE THEIR HELP IN MANY WAYS. WE WILL
BE COMING BACK ON NOVEMBER 1ST TO TALK ABOUT THE S.B.474
FUNDS. SO THERE ARE MANY WAYS WE WORK TOGETHER. BUT I THINK
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE STATE ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR
RESPONSIBILITY TO PAY A FAIR MEDI-CAL RATE TO THESE PROVIDERS.
PART OF BEING CAPITALIZED APPROPRIATELY IS TO BE PAID A FAIR
RATE FOR YOUR WORK. THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES BETWEEN NORTHERN
AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARE NOT THE SAME. THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE STATE PAY TIMELY. AND I THINK
THAT FOR SOME OF THESE HOSPITALS, I DON'T WORK THERE AND I'VE
NOT LOOKED AT THEIR CLAIMS, BUT I WORRY THAT THERE ARE SOME OF
OUR HOSPITALS, PRIVATE HOSPITALS THAT ARE AWAITING PAYMENTS
FOR VARIOUS REASONS FROM THE STATE, COULD BE IN THE CLAIMS
REVIEW PROCESS; BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE STATE TO
CONTINUE TO STEP UP AND HELP US HERE LOCALLY. AND THIS IS ONE
OF THE PLACES THAT THEY CAN BE HELPFUL.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ANYBODY ELSE?
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: THANK YOU, SUPERVISORS.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: STAY BY, BRUCE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MR. SACHS?
ARNOLD SACHS: THANK YOU. THAT STILL DOESN'T-- ACCORDING TO THE
REPORT STILL DOESN'T LEAVE US ANY NOTE ON WHAT'S HAPPENED TO
THE STAFF THAT'S STILL WAITING TO BE MOVED AROUND. I BELIEVE
TWO WEEKS AGO THERE WERE 25 STAFF THAT NEEDED TO BE RE-
EVALUATED. LAST WEEK IT WAS DOWN TO 15 OR 17 OR EVEN LESS THAN
THAT. AND THIS WEEK THERE'S NO REPORT ON IT. THAT'S WHY I
WAITED FOR THE REPORT. THANK YOU. AND I GUESS YOU GOT TO GET
BACK TO YOUR BUSINESS NOW.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THANK YOU.
SUP. BURKE: I HAVE--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED ON ITEM 26,
CORRECT? THAT'S JUST A REPORT. MISS BURKE?
SUP. BURKE: THAT CONCLUDES MY REQUESTS.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I HAVE TWO ADJOURNING MOTIONS. IS THERE
ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO BE HEARD ON THAT? THAT WILL BE AT THE
END. I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT WE ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF SANDY
BERKE JORDAN, A LONG TIME MOTION PICTURE TELEVISION COSTUMER
AND UNION OFFICIAL RECENTLY PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 74. HER
CREDITS INCLUDED SUCH FILMS AS "THE GODFATHER," "THE DEER
HUNTER," "HEAVEN'S GATE," "SPLASH," "PEEWEE'S BIG ADVENTURE"
AND MANY OTHERS. SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER HUSBAND PAUL AND MANY
FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES. WAS A RESIDENT OF THE SAN FERNANDO
VALLEY. AND ALSO ASK THAT WE ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF POQUITA
MACRISS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID THAT WHILE I WAS GONE LAST
WEEK, BUT POQUITA WAS ACTIVE IN THE BEL AIR ASSOCIATION, LONG
TIME RESIDENT OF BEL AIR, A CONSERVATIONIST AND A HUNTER AND A
GREAT PHILANTHROPIST TO OUR LOS ANGELES COUNTY MUSEUM OF
NATURAL HISTORY WHERE SHE AND HER HUSBAND HAVE DONATED
THOUSANDS, LITERALLY THOUSANDS, OF ARTIFACTS THAT ARE PART OF
THE COLLECTION AT THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY MUSEUM OF NATURAL
HISTORY. SHE DIED AT THE RIPE OLD AGE OF 95 AND LIVED HER AGE
TO THE FULLEST AS LONG AS I KNEW HER. SO I ASK THAT WE ADJOURN
IN HER MEMORY. WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO ORDERED. AND I'LL GET YOU
THE INFORMATION ON HER IN THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS. I'M NOT
HOLDING ANYTHING. WHAT'S LEFT? 12 AND 27? 27 E? CAN WE TAKE UP
27 E? WAS IT HELD OR WAS IT A DISCUSSION ITEM?
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: IT WAS HELD FOR A REPORT.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY, DR. CHERNOF?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THEN MR. CHAIRMAN?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THEN MR. ANTONOVICH.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: SUPERVISORS, LET ME MAKE A COUPLE OF
COMMENTS, AND I'VE ASKED BOTH OUR C.E.O. AND CHIEF MEDICAL
OFFICER TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, AND THEN WE ARE HERE
TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. LET ME SAY THAT WE ARE
HERE TO PROVIDE A REPORT TO YOUR BOARD AS REQUESTED IN
FOLLOWUP TO SOME INCIDENTS THAT WERE REPORTED IN THE NEWSPAPER
AT OLIVE VIEW. I WANT TO START BY SAYING TO ALL OF YOU THAT
ALL OF OUR HOSPITALS HAVE COMPREHENSIVE CASE SENTINEL EVENT,
CASE REVIEW QUALITY IMPROVEMENT RISK MANAGEMENT AND OTHER
APPROPRIATE CLINICAL OVERSIGHT PROCESSES. THESE PROCESSES ARE
MATERIALLY THE SAME IF NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS EVERY PRIVATE
HOSPITAL HAS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND THESE ARE
FUNDAMENTALLY REQUIREMENTS OF ACCREDITING BODIES, SUCH AS
J.C.A.H.O., C.M.S. AND THE STATE IN TERMS OF THEIR LICENSING
PROCESS. OLIVE VIEW U.C.L.A. MEDICAL CENTER, HARBOR U.C.L.A.
MEDICAL CENTER, L.A. COUNTY U.S.C., AND RANCHO LOS AMIGOS HAVE
ALWAYS DONE EXTREMELY WELL ON THESE AND OTHER ACCREDITATION
AND LICENSURE SURVEYS. AND I'M JUST INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THEIR
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SUSTAINED PERFORMANCE ON THOSE OBJECTIVE REVIEWS. THE STATE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, AS PART OF THEIR FIDUCIARY
RESPONSIBILITY, ROUTINELY REVIEWS ALL PATIENT COMPLAINTS AND
ALL SELF-REPORTED CASES. THIS IS ANOTHER FACET OF INDEPENDENT
OVERSIGHT AND REVIEW. AT THIS POINT IN TIME-- AND THIS MAY BE
A CHANGE, MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN IN YOUR ROLES A LONG TIME AND
HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH J.C.A.H.O, THEIR SURVEYS ARE NO LONGER
THEIR KIND OF STANDARD TRIENNIAL, THEY TELL YOU WHEN THEY'RE
GOING TO SHOW UP. THEY'RE NOW UNANNOUNCED SURVEYS AND WE ARE
IN A STATE OF CONTINUOUS READINESS FOR THESE EVENTS. OUR
FACILITIES WORK UNDER THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY COULD BE
SURVEYED ANY DAY, ANY TIME. THE D.H.S. Q.I STAFF, UNDER THE
GUIDANCE OF OUR SENIOR MEDICAL DIRECTOR, REVIEW INDIVIDUAL
CASES AND TRENDS BOTH IN SPECIFIC FACILITIES BUT ALSO ACROSS
FACILITIES LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE CARE. AND
THESE REVIEWS ARE REALLY DRIVEN BY THE NATURE OF THE
INDIVIDUAL CASE. IF AN INDIVIDUAL CASE RISES TO THE NEED FOR
AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW WE'LL DO THAT. IF YOU GET A CLUSTER IN A
PERIOD OF TIME, SIMILAR IN FACILITIES. THOSE LEAD TO
APPROPRIATE, INDEPENDENT, CROSS-ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW. WITH
RESPECT TO THE SPECIFIC INCIDENT THAT INVOLVED O.P.S., I WANT
TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT I'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR O.P.S.
LEADERSHIP. I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO
DEVELOP A SHARED POLICY IN THE EXTREMELY RARE BUT OBVIOUSLY
NOT ZERO PERCENT CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE MAY NEED THEIR HELP IN
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GAINING ACCESS TO A SERVICE OR A SUPPLY URGENTLY AND THEY
MIGHT BE ABLE TO PLAY A ROLE SUCH AS IN TRANSPORTATION, AND
THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT. SO I LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO GET THAT DONE. AT THIS POINT
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK GRETCHEN MCGINLEY, OUR ACTING
C.E.O. AT OLIVE VIEW U.C.L.A. MEDICAL CENTER TO COMMENT
BRIEFLY, VERY BRIEFLY ON THE CASES, AND WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER
ANY QUESTIONS. MR. ANTONOVICH? OH, I'M SORRY. YOU WERE GOING
TO GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: PARDON ME, SUPERVISOR.
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS, I'M HERE TO
DISCUSS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE EIGHT
INCIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE STATE AT OLIVE VIEW
THIS YEAR. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE INCIDENTS
COMPRISE, THERE ARE FOUR PATIENT COMPLAINTS. THERE WAS ONE
COMPLAINT ABOUT THE STAFFING IN OUR PSYCHIATRIC INPATIENT
UNIT. AND THEN THE THREE MOST RECENT EVENTS WERE THREE
CLINICAL EVENTS, AN O.R. FIRE, A BAD DELIVERY AND AN OLEANDER
POISONING. I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE TAKE ALL OF THESE
VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. OLIVE VIEW IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVING
QUALITY OF CARE AT ALL TIMES. WE ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING
SURE THAT THE PATIENTS RECEIVE THE TYPE OF CARE THAT WE WOULD
ALL EXPECT. WHEN THESE EVENTS OCCUR, WE INVESTIGATE THEM
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INTERNALLY. WE IDENTIFY AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT. WE EDUCATE
STAFF. WE TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION WITH STAFF IF THERE'S A
DISCIPLINARY ISSUE. AND WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO LEARN FROM THE
SITUATION. WE'RE A LEARNING ORGANIZATION. AND WE REALLY DO TRY
TO LEARN WHEN THERE ARE MISTAKES THAT WE MAY HAVE MADE. MANY
OF THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WERE ACTUALLY IN PLACE BEFORE THE
STATE SURVEYOR CAME ON SITE. AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO MONITOR
THOSE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SUSTAINED THROUGHOUT THE
ORGANIZATION. I THINK THAT REALLY IS ABOUT IT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: LET ME ASK--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MR. ANTONOVICH.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WHAT PROCEDURAL ACTIONS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED
TO PREVENT THE SPARKS OF FIRE DURING SURGERIES?
DR. WILLIAM LOOS: GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. WE'RE PROUD OF
OLIVE VIEW U.C.L.A. MEDICAL CENTER'S EXCELLENT REPUTATION. AND
WE'RE ALSO PROUD OF OUR OPERATING ROOM, WHICH IS A MODEL OF
EFFICIENCY AND TEAMWORK. IT'S WON AWARDS FOR ITS EXCELLENT
PERFORMANCE. BUT CLEARLY THE FIRE THAT OCCURRED IN THE
OPERATING ROOM LAST MONTH DID NOT MEET OUR HIGH STANDARDS. THE
FIRE RESULTED FROM THE USE OF ELECTROCAUTERY IN THE PROXIMITY
OF FACE MASK OXYGEN. THE FIRE WAS EXTINGUISHED IMMEDIATELY.
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WITHIN HOURS AFTER THE EVENT, OUR CHIEF OF SURGERY, CHIEF OF
ANESTHESIOLOGY, HEAD NURSE FOR THE OPERATING ROOM,
ADMINISTRATION AND OTHERS MET TO EVALUATE THE SITUATION. THE
INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAM DETERMINED THAT IN THE FUTURE, THE
SURGEON MUST CONSULT WITH THE ANESTHESIOLOGIST IN ADVANCE OF
THE OPERATION IF THERE'S A PLAN TO USE ELECTROCAUTERY ON THE
FACE OR HEAD ON A PATIENT RECEIVING OXYGEN BY MASK. SO THE
ANESTHESIOLOGIST CAN TURN OFF THE OXYGEN DURING THE
ELECTROCAUTERY. ALSO THE ELECTROCAUTERY INSTRUMENT IS NOW
PLACED AWAY FROM THE OPERATIVE FIELD UNTIL IT IS REQUESTED.
THIS FORCES A TIMEOUT AND GIVES ALL THE STAFF A CHANCE TO
EVALUATE THE SITUATION AS TO WILL IT IS SAFE TO USE
ELECTROCAUTERY. IN ADDITION, THE USE OF DRAPING OF THE FACE IN
THIS SITUATION WILL BE MINIMIZED TO PREVENT THE ACCUMULATION
OF OXYGEN UNDER THE DRAPE. ALL THIS HAS BEEN PUT INTO POLICY
AND THE STAFF HAVE BEEN EDUCATED REGARDING THIS NEW POLICY. WE
BELIEVE THIS COMBINATION OF INTERVENTIONS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY
REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF ANOTHER O.R. FIRE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WAS IT A FREAK ACCIDENT? OR WAS IT FAULTY
EQUIPMENT?
DR. WILLIAM LOOS: IT WAS POOR JUDGMENT ON THE PART OF THE
PHYSICIAN TO USE ELECTROCAUTERY IN THIS SITUATION. THE
INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN COUNSELED. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE PUT
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INTO PLACE THESE PROCEDURES THAT WILL PREVENT AN INDIVIDUAL
FROM DOING THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WHEN THERE IS A NEED TO GET AN ANTIDOTE, IN
MY YEARS ON THE BOARD, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF INSUBORDINATION OR
PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER REFUSING TO GO CODE 3 TO PICK UP LIFE
SAVING EQUIPMENT. WHY WAS THERE A BREAKDOWN IN THAT CASE?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: MY UNDERSTANDING, SUPERVISOR, IS THAT THERE
WAS A WATCH COMMANDER ON THAT NIGHT WHO DID NOT ROUTINELY WORK
IN HEALTH SERVICES AND HE WASN'T PARTICULARLY FAMILIAR WITH
THE WAY THAT THE COUNTY POLICE WORK WITH US ON SITUATIONS LIKE
THIS.
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: THE DEPARTMENT'S REPORT TO THE BOARD ON THIS
PARTICULAR MATTER REFERENCES A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION BEING
INITIATED BY OUR OFFICE OF PUBLIC SAFETY. OUR OFFICE, THE
C.E.O.'S OFFICE, IS WORKING WITH THE CHIEF ON THAT
INVESTIGATION. WE'LL BE REPORTING BACK.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: OKAY. THERE SHOULD BE AN INVESTIGATION.
SUP. KNABE: IS IT ROUTINE, THOUGH? MIKE, COULD I JUST FOLLOW-
UP? IS THAT A ROUTINE SITUATION WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE
O.P.S.?
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DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: THIS IS EXTREMELY RARE. PEGGY YORK IS HERE,
SO IF WE WANT TO ASK O.P.S. QUESTIONS, WE CAN.
SUP. KNABE: WHAT I'M ASKING IS: IS IT BUSINESS AS USUAL THAT
WE WOULD NEED O.P.S. TO GO GET PHARMACEUTICALS ON A 24-HOUR
OPERATION?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: WE HAVE NOT UNTIL YESTERDAY HAD 24-HOUR
PHARMACY COVERAGE. WHAT WE HAVE HAD IS A NIGHT LOCKER WHERE
THE NURSING SUPERVISOR CAN ACCESS PHARMACEUTICALS AFTER HOURS.
AND THIS WAS BECAUSE, ACCORDING TO PHARMACY LAW, NO ONE BUT A
PHARMACIST CAN HAVE A KEY TO THE PHARMACY. SO WE HAD TO SET UP
THESE NIGHT LOCKERS SO THAT THE NURSES WHO WERE ON IN THE
ADMINISTRATIVE NURSING OFFICE CAN ACCESS THE DRUGS. THE PAR
LEVELS FOR THAT ARE PRE-ESTABLISHED, THE PAR LEVEL BEING THE
AMOUNT OF DRUGS THAT ARE KEPT IN THE NIGHT LOCKER. AND THEY
ARE REVIEWED PERIODICALLY BY OUR P.N.T. COMMITTEE.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: TO YOUR QUESTION, SUPERVISOR, IT IS
UNCOMMON. VERY UNCOMMON TO EVER ASK O.P.S. TO DO SOMETHING
LIKE THIS, WHICH MAY BE PART OF WHY THIS WAS A CHALLENGE.
SUP. KNABE: BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I GUESS THERE WOULD BE FOR
CHIEF YORK. WHY WOULD NOT YOUR FOLKS RESPOND AFTER ALL THE
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LITTLE INCIDENT AT M.L.K.? IT BECOMES A COMMON SENSE POINT FOR
MEDICAL REASONS.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THAT'S THE FIRST RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROTECT
PUBLIC SAFETY, PROTECT LIFE. AND HERE YOU HAD YOU HAD APPARENT
INSUBORDINATION WHICH ENDED UP IN A FATALITY.
MARGARET YORK: YES, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS
OF THE BOARD. MARGARET YORK, CHIEF OF LOS ANGELES COUNTY
POLICE. AS SOON AS WE LEARNED OF THIS INCIDENT, THERE WAS AN
INVESTIGATION BEGUN. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE
THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING, IS HOW THE INFORMATION WAS
PRESENTED AND WHAT THE OFFICER WAS TOLD. BUT CERTAINLY IF THE
INFORMATION WAS CONVEYED THAT THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION
WHERE WE NEEDED TO HAVE THE-- THE HOSPITAL NEEDED TO HAVE THE
ANTIDOTE, AN OFFICER SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT TO PICK UP THE
ANTIDOTE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: OKAY, THANK YOU. DOCTOR, WHAT IS THE
APPROPRIATE MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR OLEANDER POISONING?
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THAT?
SUP. BURKE: WOULD YOU MIND ASKING HOW OFTEN THIS COMES UP? HOW
OFTEN YOU FIND SOMEONE WITH OLEANDER?
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DR. WILLIAM LOOS: IT'S NOT VERY COMMON.
SUP. BURKE: I KNOW. I'VE READ ABOUT IT IN THE LITERATURE.
DR. WILLIAM LOOS: OLEANDER IS HIGHLY TOXIC, HIGHLY POISONOUS.
THE LEAVES, THE WOOD OF IT, THE SEEDS OF IT ALL CONTAIN
CHEMICAL SUBSTANCES WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO DIGITALIS. SO THE
TREATMENT FOR AN OLEANDER OVERDOSE IS CALLED DIGIBIND WHICH IS
USED FOR AN OVERDOSE OF DIGITALIS. NOW, THE CHEMICALS IN
OLEANDER ARE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS DIGITALIS. AND THE
DIGIBIND WAS MANUFACTURED AND DESIGNED TO TREAT DIGITALIS
OVERDOSE, NOT OLEANDER POISONING, BUT STILL THERE ARE CASE
REPORTS OF DIGIBIND BEING EFFECTIVE IN THE TREATMENT OF
OLEANDER POISONING.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: SO HOW MUCH OF THE ANTIDOTE DO YOU KEEP AT A
NORMAL HOSPITAL, DO THEY HAVE IN SUPPLY IN THEIR PHARMACY?
DR. WILLIAM LOOS: WELL, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THE RIGHT AMOUNT
TO HAVE ON HAND IS AT LEAST 20 VIALS, AND THAT'S THE AMOUNT
THAT WE HAVE ON HAND NOW.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WHY DIDN'T THE STATE-- OR THE HOSPITAL INFORM
THE STATE ABOUT THIS INCIDENT IMMEDIATELY? AND WHY ARE WE
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FIRST HEARING ABOUT THESE CASES FROM NEWSPAPERS RATHER THAN
THE DEPARTMENT?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: THE STATE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS HAVE
CHANGED DRAMATICALLY THIS YEAR. THE INCIDENTS WERE REVIEWED
INTERNALLY AND WE DIDN'T BELIEVE AT THE TIME THEY WERE
REPORTABLE. WE WERE WRONG. WE'RE LEARNING FROM THIS, ALSO.
FROM NOW ON, WE'RE GOING TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF REPORTING. AND
ALSO WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE FOLKS DOWNTOWN, AND WE'RE
GOING TO IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM-WIDE REVIEW TO-- THE FACILITIES
WILL DETERMINE WHEN-- WHETHER THEY THINK A REPORT SHOULD BE
MADE AND THEN WE'LL REVIEW THEM WITH FOLKS DOWNTOWN AND THEN
SUBSEQUENTLY DECIDE WHETHER IT'S TO BE REPORTED.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: HOW WERE THE NEWSPAPERS ABLE TO GET THE
INFORMATION PRIOR TO THE BOARD?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: I DON'T KNOW.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: SUPERVISOR, TO THAT QUESTION, I'M NOT SURE
THAT WE UP HERE HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
COMMENT ON ADDING TO WHAT MISS MCGINLEY JUST SAID IS THAT ONE
OF THE THINGS AT A DEPARTMENT LEVEL THAT WE'VE LEARNED AND
WILL IMPLEMENT FROM THIS IS AN EXPECTATION-- AND WE GET
REGULAR REPORTS IF THE FACILITIES ABOUT CASES THAT THEY
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BELIEVE ARE REPORTABLE, BUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT
GIVEN THESE NEW STATE GUIDELINES FOR ALL OF OUR HOSPITALS IS
THAT ANY CASE THAT EVEN IS REMOTELY BEING CONSIDERED FOR
REPORTING COME THROUGH D.H.S. TO BE REVIEWED. AND I THINK
THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF WE AGREE WITH THE FACILITY'S
DETERMINATION THAT IT'S NOT A REPORTABLE EVENT, THEN THE
DECISION WILL HAVE BEEN MADE IN A WAY THAT IS SUBSTANTIATED
OUTSIDE THE FACILITY, AND THAT WAY NOBODY COULD EVER ACCUSE
THE FACILITY OF HIDING SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY BROUGHT IT
FORWARD. AND IT ALSO MEANS THAT MY Q.I. STAFF, MY SENIOR
MEDICAL DIRECTOR, WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR PARTICIPATING IN THAT
DECISION MAKING AND SHARING WITH YOUR BOARD.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WERE THERE JUST THREE INCIDENTS? OR WERE
THERE FIVE INCIDENTS?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: THERE HAVE BEEN EIGHT TOTAL THIS YEAR. FOUR
PATIENT COMPLAINTS, ONE INQUIRY ABOUT STAFFING IN THE PSYCH.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THE REASON I ASKED THIS IS BECAUSE WHEN THE
PRESS ASKED US RESPONSE, THEY HAD MORE CASES THAN WE HAD BEEN
GIVEN, AS TO WHAT OCCURRED.
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: MOST RECENT RECENTLY THERE WERE THREE.
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SUP. ANTONOVICH: AND THEN THE ONES THE NEWSPAPER HAD--
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: WERE FROM A VISIT THAT THE STATE MADE IN
MAY. AND THEY INVOLVED CASES THAT DATED BACK INTO 2006.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AND THE BOARD WAS INFORMED OF THOSE CASES?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK THERE'S-- SOME
OF THESE, I THINK, ARE MORE CRITICAL THAN OTHERS. WHILE WE
WERE TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY AND TAKING CORRECTIVE ACTION DIDN'T
SEEM TO RISE TO THE LEVEL OF REPORTING TO THE BOARD.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: SUPERVISOR, COMPLAINT REVIEWS ARE COMMON IN
ALL HOSPITALS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. THEY'RE-- UNLESS THE STATE
VIEWS THEM AS PARTICULARLY SERIOUS FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER,
THEY SAVE THEM UP AND THEY COME OUT FROM TIME TO TIME TO
REVIEW THEM. IT IS TRUE THAT OLIVE VIEW HAD A REVIEW IN MAY.
THEY CAME OUT AND DID AN INITIAL REVIEW. AND THE FACILITY DID
SUBMIT AN APPROPRIATE CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: DID THE DEPARTMENT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION
OFFICER CLAIM THAT THE STATE WOULD LIKELY FIND THE HOSPITAL'S
TREATMENT DEFICIENT?
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DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: I REVIEWED THIS WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF BOARD
RELATIONS, AND THAT IS NOT AN ACCURATE STATEMENT OF WHAT HE
SAID.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: AND HAS THE HOSPITAL INCREASED THE NUMBER OF
NURSES TO THE PSYCHIATRIC UNITS?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: YES, SUPERVISOR. WE'VE HIRED FOUR
REGISTERED NURSES AND ONE L.V.N. WE'VE ALSO HIRED TRAVELING
NURSE. AND WE HAVE PUT INTO PLACE PROCESSES FOR CLOSING BEDS
IF OUR STAFFING RATIO IS BELOW EXPECTATIONS. WE HAVE NOT BEEN
BELOW THE STAFFING STANDARD SINCE THE STATE WAS OUT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROTOCOL FOR GETTING
EMERGENCY MEDICATION AND EQUIPMENT FROM ANOTHER FACILITY?
GRETCHEN MCGINLEY: IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN. WE'VE HAD
DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR COUNTY OFFICE OF PUBLIC SAFETY CAPTAIN ON
SITE, AND IF WE GET AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, IF THEY GET A CALL
FROM OUR NURSING SUPERVISOR, THEY WILL RESPOND.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE
BOARD DIRECT THE C.E.O. AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES
TO DEVELOP A POLICY IN REGARDS TO EMERGENCY MEDICINE AND
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EQUIPMENT RETRIEVAL WITH A REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD IN TWO
WEEKS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: OKAY. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? I'LL
SECOND THAT. WITHOUT OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
DR. BRUCE CHERNOF: THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THAT'S BY SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY AND MYSELF.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ANYTHING ELSE OF THESE FOLKS? IF NOT,
THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 12? NOT 12. YEAH, 12. MR. KNABE AND MR.
ANTONOVICH HELD THIS. MR. KNABE, MR. ANTONOVICH, YOU HELD
NUMBER 12.
SUP. KNABE: OBVIOUSLY I THINK THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR
IS VERY COMMENDABLE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE
TO LOOK AT THAT WORKGROUP AND MAYBE HAVE SOME INDEPENDENT EYES
REVIEW IT, AS WELL, TOO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET COUNTY-WIDE
UNINCORPORATED LOOK AT THIS THING. I SUPPORT THE MOTION. I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES POTENTIALLY
TO SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE RED CROSS AND SOME OTHERS
THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL. THERE'S A LOT OF
THIS THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. I
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THINK WE JUST NEED TO-- FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT
MIKE--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MIKE?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THIS IS A VERY GOOD GUIDE THAT'S BEING
DEVELOPED. IT INCLUDES USEFUL EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS
INFORMATION FOR THE RESIDENTS OF TOPANGA CANYON. AND WHILE THE
GUIDE INCLUDES SPECIFIC INFORMATION FOR TOPANGA CANYON, A
SIGNIFICANT APPLIES TO THE RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO
I'D LIKE TO MOVE WITH SUPERVISOR MOLINA AND I THAT THE BOARD
DIRECT THE C.E.O. TO UTILIZE TOPANGA DISASTER SURVIVAL GUIDE
TO DEVELOP A DISASTER SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR DISTRIBUTION TO THE
RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY'S UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITIES AND
PROVIDE A PROGRESS REPORT IN TWO WEEKS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT'S FINE. ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY
AMENDMENT, SO TO SPEAK. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER -- IS TWO
WEEKS ENOUGH?
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: NO. NOT FOR SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: HOW MANY WEEKS DO YOU NEED?
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I ACTUALLY-- CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
WHY DON'T YOU JUST DIRECT THEM TO DO THAT, TO DO THAT, AND
WHENEVER THEY COME BACK?
SUP. BURKE: IT SHOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE AREA.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ABSOLUTELY.
SUP. BURKE: BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE AROUND KENNETH HAHN PARK,
THEY'RE SUBJECT TO--
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD'S DIFFERENT.
SUP. KNABE: THAT WAS THE ESSENCE OF MINE, TOO. I MEAN,
HACIENDA HAS REAL--
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: WELL THAT'S THE STRENGTH OF THE TOPANGA GUIDE.
IT'S JUST SPECIFIC TO THAT AREA.
SUP. BURKE: IT SHOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE AREA.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THAT MAKES COMMON SENSE. SO AS LONG AS
YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. BY THE WAY, THE TOPANGA EMERGENCY PLAN
WAS KICKED INTO EFFECT IN THE LAST 48 HOURS, AND IT'S WORKED
LIKE A CHARM. PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT GETTING TOO MUCH
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INFORMATION. BUT TONGUE IN CHEEK COMPLAINING. IT'S WORKED REAL
WELL. OKAY. WITHOUT OBJECTION, AS AMENDED BY MR. ANTONOVICH'S
MOTION, ITEM 12, I'LL MOVE IT. OH, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, I'M
SORRY. JANET THIGPEN. AND THEN I WILL MOVE AND MR. ANTONOVICH
WILL SECOND. IS MISS THIGPEN HERE? SHE IS NOT HERE. SO WE HAVE
NO OTHER PERSON WHO WANTS TO BE HEARD. WITHOUT OBJECTION,
UNANIMOUS VOTE ON ITEM 12. BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC-- WE GOT TO
GO TO YOU. BUT BEFORE WE GO TO YOU, I GOT TO GO TO KNABE. AND
BEFORE WE GO TO KNABE, I HAVE A QUESTION OF MR. FUJIOKA. AND I
REALLY AM ASKING FOR A REPORT BACK ON TUESDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF
ANY OF THE OTHER MEMBERS HAVE HAD THIS COME TO THEIR
ATTENTION. WE HAVE HAD TWO AGENCIES RESPOND TO THE HOMELESS
INITIATIVE R.F.P. OR .R.F.Q., WHATEVER IT WAS, R.F.P. I THINK
IT IS., WHOSE APPLICATIONS WERE NOT ACCEPTED BECAUSE THEY
SUBMITTED IT IN A FLOPPY DISK FORM AS OPPOSED TO SOME OTHER
DISK FORM. I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE DETAILS OTHER THAN TO
KNOW THAT THESE ARE TWO VERY WELL RESPECTED AND GREAT PARTNERS
WITH THE COUNTY. AND IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A TECHNICALITY, IF
IT IS. I WANT YOU TO LOOK INTO IT AND GET US A REPORT BACK
NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY SHOOTING OURSELVES IN THE FOOT IF
WE CAN --
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE. I AGREE
WITH THAT.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THERE AREN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE AT LEAST
AROUND MY PART OF TOWN WHO DO THIS SORT OF THING. THEY
COULDN'T EVEN APPEAL IT BECAUSE THEIR APPLICATION WASN'T EVEN
ACCEPTED. SO THEY COULDN'T EVEN MAKE THEIR CASE. IT WAS A
NIGHTMARE. SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO REPORT BACK AND SEE IF
THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: ABSOLUTELY.
SUP. KNABE: WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM IN OUR DISTRICT WITH ONE
GREAT PROVIDER.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NOT LATE. THE FORMAT. AND THAT'S JUST,
TO ME, IS--
C.E.O. FUJIOKA: I AGREE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: IS LIKE TELLING SOMEBODY YOU GOT TO DO
IT ON A WORD PROCESSOR AND THEY BRING IT ON A TYPEWRITER AND
YOU DISQUALIFY THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO IT ON A WORD
PROCESSOR. NOT SMART. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, BILL. I APPRECIATE
THAT. DO THAT NEXT WEEK. THAT'S ALL I. MR. KNABE?
SUP. KNABE: THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD,
SEVERAL ADJOURNMENTS AND WE'LL GET YOU FOLLOWUP INFORMATION ON
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THIS. I WAS JUST NOTIFIED MR. PAUL ROODZANT THE FATHER OF A
GOOD FRIEND , DR. JERRY ROUTSANT, PASSED AWAY THIS PAST
SUNDAY. WE WILL GET YOU THE INFORMATION. ALSO, THAT WE ADJOURN
IN MEMORY TODAY OF PHYLLIS LOWENTHAL WHO PASSED AWAY THIS PAST
WEEKEND. SHE WAS A SISTER OF SENATOR ALAN LOWENTHAL. SHE WILL
BE MISSED BY HER FAMILY AND FRIENDS. ALL MEMBERS. ALSO THAT WE
ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF DR. LINDA EVANS WHO WAS TRAGICALLY KILLED
IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT. SHE WAS A SPANISH TEACHER AT
MAYFAIR HIGH SCHOOL, A VERY INSTRUMENTAL AND VERY WELL LIKED
AT THE SCHOOL. SHE WAS ALSO VERY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT
SHEPHERD FOOD DRIVE FOR NEEDY LAKEWOOD FAMILIES DURING THE
HOLIDAYS, AND WITH HER STUDENTS COLLECTED MORE THAN 20,000
CANNED GOODS EACH AND EVERY YEAR. SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER
DAUGHTERS, JANNA AND JANDY, AND GRANDDAUGHTER SASHA. SO WE
SEND OUR CONDOLENCES THOSE ARE MY ADJOURNMENTS.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: UNANIMOUS VOTE. THAT'S IT. OKAY.
SUPERVISOR ANTONOVICH? HE MAY HAVE STEPPED OUT. WHY DON'T WE
HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? AND WE'LL GET TO MR.
ANTONOVICH'S ADJOURNMENTS. MARCIA HANSCOM AND JUNE JACKSON--
MARCIA HANSCOM: HONORABLE SUPERVISORS, MARCIA HANSCOM WITH THE
COASTAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTION NETWORK ALSO SPEAKING AS THE
VICE CHAIR OF SIERRA CLUB'S CONSERVATION COMMITTEE FOR THE
ANGELES CHAPTER AND THE BALLONA INSTITUTE. FIRST I WANT TO
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COMMEND SUPERVISOR BURKE FOR THE GREAT LIGHTS OUT L.A.
LEADERSHIP SHE TOOK. AND I'M HOPING YOU WILL ALL EMBRACE THIS
IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL. I ALSO WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT
THIS OLEANDER WHICH IS A VERY SERIOUS POISONOUS PLANT. IT'S
NOT NATIVE. ALSO, IT'S GOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND IT WOULD BE
GREAT IF YOU COULD CONSIDER REMOVING THIS POISONOUS PLANT,
ESPECIALLY FROM OUR PARKS WHERE CHILDREN ARE, BUT FROM ANY OF
OUR COUNTY PROPERTIES. THE TWO THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO SPEAK
WITH YOU ABOUT TODAY, THOUGH, IS ONE IS RELATED TO THE FIRE
SITUATION. I WAS RATHER ASTONISHED TO READ ON THE L.A. TIMES'
WEBSITE THIS MORNING THAT SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY HAD SUGGESTED
THAT IT MIGHT BE THE COASTAL COMMISSION THAT WAS AT FAULT FOR
THE MALIBU FIRES. AND I WOULD THINK THAT SUPERVISOR BURKE'S
HUSBAND WHO IS ON THE COMMISSION MIGHT TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE ALL LOOK AT THE
RESPONSIBILITIES WE HAVE FOR THE OVERDEVELOPMENT OF THESE
AREAS THAT ARE FIRE PRONE. AND MAYBE WE LOOK AT SOME
SOLUTIONS. I WANT TO TAKE THE SPIRIT WITHIN WHICH PASTOR
HOCKING STARTED THIS MORNING AND THINK ABOUT SOME NEW WAYS OF
DOING THINGS. ONE IS TO LOOK AT WHAT THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE
DOES WITH THEIR HISTORICAL PROPERTIES. IT'S SOMETHING I'VE
NEVER HEARD ANYONE TALK ABOUT HERE. THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE
HAS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE STRUCTURES THAT ACTUALLY PROTECT
ALL OF THEIR HISTORICAL STRUCTURES THAT GO UP WHEN THE HEAT
ARISES, AND THEY ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT PROTECTING THEIR
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PROPERTIES WITH THESE FIRE PRONE-- FIRE RESISTANT CANOPIES
THAT GO OVER THE STRUCTURES AND FOAM THAT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH
THAT. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I LIVE WITH A BIOLOGIST WHO ACTUALLY
WORKS FOR L.A. COUNTY PARKS. BUT HE'S NOT REALLY--
UNFORTUNATELY HE'S NOT BEING USED IN THE WAY HE PROBABLY OUGHT
TO BE, NOT FOR WHAT HE WAS HIRED OR HIRED FOR OR TRAINED FOR.
AND PERHAPS YOU COULD TALK TO HIM OR OTHERS AT THE NATIONAL
PARK SERVICE WHO HAVE WORKED WITH THESE SORTS OF STRUCTURES. I
ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE MARINA DEL REY L.C.P. BE HELD
IMMEDIATELY FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. FOR SEVEN YEARS, YOUR STAFF
HAS BEEN DELAYING THE HEARING OF THE MARINA DEL REY L.C.P. AND
COMMISSIONER BURKE ACTUALLY TOLD US IN THE SUMMER THAT HE WAS
GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC
HEARING. NOT ONE PUBLIC HEARING IN SEVEN YEARS. I UNDERSTAND
THAT SUPERVISOR KNABE IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. AND I WOULD ASK
THAT YOU SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER BEFORE
JANUARY WHEN THE COASTAL COMMISSION IS SCHEDULED TO APPEAR.
SUP. KNABE: WE ARE. WE ARE WORKING ON THE DATE.
MARCIA HANSCOM: GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I HAVEN'T SEEN THE L.A. TIMES BLOG OR
WHATEVER IT WAS IN, BUT LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR, NOBODY'S
ACCUSING ANYBODY OF STARTING THE FIRE. BUT MY COMMENTS DID
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RELATE TO THE CONSTANT BATTLE THAT RESIDENTS OF THE SANTA
MONICA MOUNTAINS IN THE COASTAL ZONE HAVE WITH THE COASTAL
COMMISSION STAFF IN COMPLYING WITH THE FIRE SAFETY
REQUIREMENTS, THE 300-FOOT CLEARANCE AROUND THEIR STRUCTURES.
THE COASTAL COMMISSION DOES NOT WANT THEM TO CLEAR IT, BECAUSE
AS YOU OR SOMEONE EARLIER TESTIFIED, EVERY PIECE OF CHAPARRAL
IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. AND WHAT ENDS HAPPENING IS THEY
CLEAR IT AND THEY GET FINED. I THINK WHILE YOU MAY BE
ASTONISHED AT MY COMMENTS, I THINK MOST ANGELINOS WOULD BE
ASTONISHED THAT CITIZENS WHO ARE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE
FIRE REGULATIONS ARE HAVING TO FIGHT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY
THAT IS LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT THAN-- WELL, THEN YOU SHOULD
TALK TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE HILLS AND TO YOUR COLLEAGUES IN
THE CITY OF MALIBU WHO HAVE COMPLAINED TO ME ABOUT IT, AND
YESTERDAY COMPLAINED TO THE GOVERNOR ABOUT IT. IT'S AN ISSUE.
AND I DON'T THINK-- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE
RESOLVABLE.
SUP. BURKE: I WILL, SINCE HIS NAME WAS MENTIONED, MY HUSBAND
WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SAN DIEGO WHERE APPARENTLY THERE WAS
AN ATTEMPT TO GET CLEARANCE AND IT WAS TURNED DOWN BY A VOTE
OF A COASTAL COMMISSION.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: REALLY?
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SUP. BURKE: REALLY, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE'S NO
QUESTION IT HAS SOME BEARING ON WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT HAS ANY BEARING
OR NOT. THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH SAN DIEGO. AND I'M NOT SURE
IT HAD ANY BEARING IN THIS INSTANCE IN MALIBU. BUT I JUST
THINK-- WELL I'LL BE VERY BLUNT. I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE
IN AN IVORY TOWER AND HAVE A VERY NARROW VIEW OF THE WORLD AND
DON'T SEE THE IMPLICATIONS, THE BROADER IMPLICATIONS NEED TO
BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, ALSO. AND I HAVE-- I PERSONALLY, I WAS
ASKED BY A REPORTER EARLIER TODAY. I WOULDN'T LIVE IN THE
MOUNTAINS AND PUT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY AT THAT RISK. OTHER
PEOPLE-- I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THEIR HOMES BURNED TWO AND
THREE TIMES AND HAVE REBUILT IT A THIRD AND A FOURTH TIME
BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW,
I'LL SAY IT. I BELIEVE THE FIRST THING IS PUBLIC SAFETY. THE
FIRST THING IS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND IF I HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN
THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THOSE MOUNTAINS AND THE
FIREFIGHTERS WHO WE CHARGE WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO GO IN
THERE AND SAVE THEM AND THEIR PROPERTIES, IF I HAVE TO CHOOSE
BETWEEN THEM AND SOME BRUSH THAT IS AROUND THEIR HOME OR EVEN
IF IT'S CHAPARRAL A ROUND THEIR HOME, I DON'T THINK IT'S A
CLOSE CALL. NOW WHETHER THE HOME SHOULD BE THERE OR NOT IS
ANOTHER STORY. AND WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE
TO TRY TO BE RESPONSIBLE IN THE WAY THAT IF YOU WILL LET
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DEVELOPMENT TAKE PLACE UP THERE. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMES
IN THE MOUNTAINS. NOT JUST IN SANTA MONICA, IN THE SANTA
MONICA MOUNTAINS, BUT IN THE SAN GABRIELS, IN THE TEHACHAPIS,
IN THE SAN BERNADINOS, ALL OVER THE PLACE, ALL OVER
CALIFORNIA. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO LET PEOPLE BUILD AND LIVE
IN THOSE AREAS, YOU'VE GOT TO INSIST THAT THEY INOCULATE
THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM FIRE DANGER. NOT EVERYBODY
SHARES THAT VIEW. I UNDERSTAND THAT. NOT EVERYBODY IN THE
COASTAL COMMISSION STAFF SHARES THAT VIEW. NOT EVERY CITIZEN
SHARES THAT VIEW. I HAPPEN TO SHARE THAT VIEW. THAT SOMEBODY'S
LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A PLANT. I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SORRY.
I TELL IT LIKE IT IS. YET, IF ANY ONE OF US HAD TO WALK
THROUGH, AS MR. ANTONOVICH DID YESTERDAY, IN HIS PART OF THE
COUNTY AND I DID IN MY PART OF THE COUNTY AND SEE THE
DEVASTATION, IT JUST IS NOT A CLOSE CALL. AND, AGAIN, I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THE FIRES. IF
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID, THEY'RE MISTAKEN. IF THAT'S WHAT I
SAID, I WAS MISTAKEN, NO QUESTION. BUT THE POLICIES OF FIRE
SAFETY, THERE IS ALSO NO QUESTION, THAT THERE IS A BATTLE
BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS AND THE REGULATORY AGENCIES
OUT THERE. ON THE ONE HAND FIRE SERVICE WHICH SAYS DO IT. ON
THE OTHER HAND, REGULATORY AGENCIES THAT SAY DON'T. OKAY, JUNE
JACKSON. IS JUNE JACKSON HERE? SHE WAS NEXT TO BE HEARD. OH,
I'M SORRY. I GOT SO CARRIED AWAY. MISS JACKSON.
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JUNE JACKSON: YES. MY NAME IS JUNE JACKSON. I WAS HERE ON--
LAST MONTH AT YOUR BOARD MEETING. I AM A PREVIOUS L.A. COUNTY
SHERIFF DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE WHOSE JOB HAS BEEN WRONGLY DENIED.
I'M BEING DENIED MY JOB AS I SAID ON LAST MONTH BECAUSE I WENT
TO FILE A CRIME REPORT AGAINST THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WAS
SURROUNDED BY EIGHT PEOPLE. WHEN I LEFT, I WAS FOLLOWED BY
HELICOPTER. THE HELICOPTER STALKED ME TO MY DESTINATION LIKE I
WAS A CRIMINAL. I LATER FOUND OUT THAT SHERIFF DEPARTMENT
COERCED A MENTAL HEALTH NURSE, WHO THEY WRONGLY CALLED IN TO
SET ME UP, TO WRITE UP A FRAUDULENT MEDICAL REPORT ON ME. THAT
FRAUDULENT MEDICAL REPORT HAS BEEN USED FOR THE LAST FIVE
YEARS TO KEEP ME OFF WORK. I'VE ASKED THIS BOARD TO
INVESTIGATE THE MATTER AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE FROM
THE BOARD. THERE'S QUITE A FEW OTHER FRAUDULENT REPORTS THAT
HAS BEEN WRITTEN ON ME, AND IT WAS NOT BASED ON AN EVALUATION,
WHICH IS ILLEGAL. OKAY? AN EVALUATION OF A PERSON IS THE ONLY
THING YOU CAN USE TO KEEP A PERSON OFF WORK. I HAVE BEEN MORE
THAN PATIENT, NICE. I'VE ADDRESSED EVERY COUNTY AGENCY ABOUT
THIS. AND I DON'T JUST STAND HERE, I MEAN SIT HERE AND
REPRESENT MYSELF, BUT I REPRESENT OTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEES. WE--
YOU GUYS HAVE CIVIL SERVICE RULES, COUNTY POLICY CODES AND
PROCEDURES, AND THEY'RE BEING VIOLATED. AND MY LIFE, I JUST
HEARD YOU MENTION ABOUT A PERSON'S LIFE BEING IMPORTANT, MY
LIFE HAS BEEN AFFECTED FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. I'VE BEEN
HOMELESS AND A MYRIAD OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE
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ALL BECAUSE I EXERCISED MY RIGHTS AND FILED A CRIME REPORT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM THIS BOARD, I'VE ADDRESSED A
LETTER TO MISS MOLINA AND THIS ENTIRE BOARD AND I HAVE NOT
GOTTEN A RESPONSE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THIS BOARD IS
NOT INVESTIGATING THIS MATTER.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WHAT DISTRICT DO YOU LIVE IN?
SUP. MOLINA: YOU DIDN'T GIVE US THE LETTER.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WHOSE DISTRICT DO YOU LIVE IN?
JUNE JACKSON: MR. KNABE, THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, YOU TOLD ME
TO STEP OUT, AND I SPOKE WITH MR. KNABE'S ASSISTANT. WELL TO
THIS DATE, I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM MR. KNABE'S OFFICE. I HAVE
NOT RECEIVED ANY DOCUMENTATION, A LETTER OR NOTHING.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WELL IT MAY BE THAT IT'S STILL A WORK IN
PROGRESS. IT HASN'T BEEN THAT LONG SINCE YOU WERE HERE.
JUNE JACKSON: BUT THE POINT I'M MAKE BEING, SIR, IS THAT ANY
TIME SOMEONE'S INVESTIGATING SOMETHING, I SHOULD RECEIVE
SOMETHING FROM THEM, SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION, TO LET ME
KNOW.
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SUP. MOLINA: THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE. THAT IS NOT
NECESSARILY TRUE. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE RULES, THAT'S NOT
NECESSARILY TRUE.
JUNE JACKSON: WELL, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY WELL, YOUR BOARD
TOLD ME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WELL YOU DID SAY THAT.
JUNE JACKSON: MY POINT IS IT COULD BE MY WORD AGAINST THEIR
WORD IF I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING. I HAVE NO WRITTEN
DOCUMENTATION. YOU PERSONALLY, MR., I DON'T KNOW HOW TO
PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME, CAN YOU SAY AT THAT FOR ME, YOUR NAME?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YAROSLAVSKY. NOW YOU SAY IT.
JUNE JACKSON: I DON'T THINK I CAN GET THAT, BUT ANYWAY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: NO, NO. YOU ASKED, NOW I'M GOING TO
TEACH YOU A WORD IN RUSSIAN: YAROSLAVSKY.
JUNE JACKSON: YAROSLAVSKY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: EXCELLENT.
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JUNE JACKSON: ANYWAY, I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM YOU TELLING ME
THAT HE WAS INVESTIGATING. HOWEVER PROPER PROCEDURE AND
PROTOCOL I SHOULD RECEIVE A LETTER STATING THAT HE IS TAKING
CARE OF THE MATTER. OTHER THAN THAT, IT CAN JUST BE MY WORD. I
HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING.
SUP. KNABE: WELL, YOU HAVE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM US. WE
LEFT A MESSAGE, UNLESS YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR PHONE NUMBER FROM
THE LAST TIME.
JUNE JACKSON: NO, NO. I RECEIVED NOTHING FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT,
SIR. AND AS I SHARED WHEN I WAS HERE LAST MONTH, I TOLD YOU
PRIOR TO ME COMING HERE THAT I HAD TALKED TO MR. KNABE'S
OFFICE. AND I WAS IGNORED. SO RIGHT NOW TO ME, IT'S JUST LIKE
THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING. IT'S JUST THAT I'M BEING
PATRONIZED HERE AND THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WELL IT MAY BE THE WAY YOU FEEL. I'M NOT
SURE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.
JUNE JACKSON: NOTHING, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU MAY
NOT GET SATISFIED ON THIS. BUT I THINK THAT MR. KNABE'S OFFICE
IS MAKING THE EFFORT TO TRY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
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SUP MOLINA: WE DIDN'T GET A LETTER, SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU
A BUSINESS CARD TO --.
JUNE JACKSON: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO: HOW HOW ABOUT SINCE
SHE SAYS YOU GUYS SAY YOU DIDN'T GET A LETTER AND I SENT ALL
OF THEM CERTIFIED, HOW ABOUT IF I RESEND THEM CERTIFIED AGAIN?
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. MR.
KNABE, HIS STAFF WILL TALK TO YOU. BUT MAKE SURE THEY HAVE
YOUR CORRECT PHONE NUMBER BECAUSE THEY DID MAKE AN EFFORT
APPARENTLY TO CONTACT YOU.
JUNE JACKSON: OKAY. CAN I ASK YOU ONE MORE THING? CAN I JUST
ASK YOU ONE QUICK THING? YOU'RE THE -- THE CODE FOR BEING A
WHISTLE BLOWER, I DON'T KNOW THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK IT'S
0.5260 OR SOMETHING, I MAY BE OFF ONE OR TO DIGITS, THAT IS
WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET THIS BOARD TO ADDRESS BECAUSE THAT IS
WHY I HAVE BEEN DENIED MY JOB FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. AND
I'VE AGAIN WORKING OUTSIDE L.A. COUNTY FOR THE LAST FIVE
YEARS. AND IF I CAN WORK OUTSIDE L.A. COUNTY, I CAN WORK MY
SHERIFF DEPARTMENT'S JOB. SO THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS
PICTURE.
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SUP. BURKE: I THINK THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE COUNTY
COUNSEL WHO CAN TELL YOU FIRST OF ALL THE TIME LIMIT IN TERMS
OF A WHISTLE BLOWER AND EXACTLY HOW YOU PROCEED WITH A WHISTLE
BLOWER. I THINK SOMEONE FROM COUNTY COUNSEL.
JUNE JACKSON: I UNDERSTAND THAT, MA'AM. BUT MY RIGHTS ARE
BEING ABUSED THROUGH THE COUNTY SYSTEM IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN
SAYING ALL ALONG.
SUP. BURKE: I THINK AS A WHISTLE BLOWER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO
FILE A LAWSUIT. WE GET WHISTLE BLOWER ACTIONS. BUT WE DON'T
ACT ON THEM THIS WAY. THERE'S A LAWSUIT THAT COMES AND THEN
THE COUNTY COUNSEL GETS INVOLVED. IT'S ALL DECIDED BY THE
COURT. WE DON'T DO IT.
JUNE JACKSON: I UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, I COULD BE-- EACH ONE OF
YOU BOARD MEMBERS' DAUGHTER SITTING HERE, AND I DON'T THINK IF
I WAS, YOU GUYS WOULD BE--
SUP. BURKE: I WOULD TELL HER THE SAME THING. SHE WOULD HAVE TO
FILE A LAWSUIT.
JUNE JACKSON: BUT YOU WOULDN'T BE VERY HAPPY TO THE THINGS
THAT WERE DONE FOR ME AND THE BOARD IS NOT DOING WHAT THEY
SHOULD INVESTIGATE THE MATTER.
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CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: YOU'RE ENTITLED TO THAT OPINION. IF
THAT'S THE WAY YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, SCREAM IT FROM THE TOP OF
THE HILLS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. ANYWAY, I THINK WE
HEARD YOU. AND MR. KNABE'S STAFF WILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY
HAVE YOUR CORRECT PHONE NUMBER AND THEY CAN FOLLOW UP. THANK
YOU.
JUNE JACKSON: THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN. OKAY.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MR. ANTONOVICH, YOU HAD YOUR --
SUP. ANTONOVICH: LET ME DO THE ADJOURNMENTS. JOHN WILLIAM BILL
LEVETTE OF ANTELOPE VALLEY, WORKED FOR N.A.S.A. FOR 20 YEARS
WAS AN EQUESTRIAN, MEMBER OF THE ANTELOPE VALLEY DESERT RIDERS
AND DESERT MARKSMEN GUN CLUB, ALSO IN MEMORY OF MICHAEL RUBEL
OF GLENDORA. HE BELT THE RUBEL CASTLE WHICH WITHSTANDS AS A
SOLID CITY LANDMARK AND NOW VIRTUALLY EVERY SCHOOL CHILD IN
GLENDORA HAS VISITED ON THEIR FIELD TRIPS. HE IS SURVIVED BY
HIS WIFE AND HIS DAUGHTER AND SISTER AND BROTHER AND HIS
NEPHEWS. VINCENT DEDOMENICO, PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 92,
STILL WORKING, HE WAS THE CREATOR OF RICE-A-RONI, THE SAN
FRANCISCO TREAT, THAT WE ALL GREW UP SINGING. HE STARTED UP
THE NAPA VALLEY WINE TRADE WHERE HE WAS STILL WORKING AT THE
AGE OF 92 WHEN HE PASSED AWAY. AND HE WAS ONE OF SIX CHILDREN
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OF ITALIAN IMMIGRANTS WHO CAME HERE AND BECAME A VERY
SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEUR. NANCY MALIN, LOS ANGELES COUNTY
DEPUTY SHERIFF, SHE RETIRED AND WAS LAST ASSIGNED TO THE
TRANSPORTATION BUREAU, PROBATION OFFICER VANESSA MITCHELL, HER
LAST DAY OF SERVICE WAS OCTOBER 14TH WHO PASSED AWAY. SHE IS
SURVIVED BY HER MOTHER AND BROTHERS AND SISTER. GARY WEINS,
ALSO RETIRED SERGEANT, LOS ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT, LAST ASSIGNED TO CUSTODY DIVISION. AND THE LATE
GREAT JOEY BISHOP WHO I BELIEVE HAD ONE OF THE GREATEST WITS
OF ALL TIME. GREAT COMEDIAN AND PHILANTHROPIST. I MOVE THAT WE
ADJOURN IN THEIR MEMORY. AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE,
WE HAVE TO ALSO ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF CHANNEL 5. THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME IN MY YEARS OF GROWING UP IN THIS COUNTY THAT WE
DIDN'T HAVE A STAN CHAMBERS. AND WHEN WE LOST HAL FISHMAN, WE
ALSO, I BELIEVE, LOST THE LEADERSHIP THAT CHANNEL 5 HAS
PROVIDED, THE L.A. TIMES FAILED TO PROVIDE IN HAVING THIS 24-
HOUR COVERAGE SO NECESSARY FOR THE VICTIMS. AND AS YOU KNOW,
ZEV AND I VISITED THE EVACUATION CENTERS, PEOPLE ARE LISTENING
TO TELEVISION TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE THERE IS A
LACK OF INFORMATION THAT THEY RECEIVE. AND TO THEIR CREDIT
CHANNEL 9-- AND I KNOW CHANNEL 7 AND 4 WERE THERE BROADCASTING
LIVE THERE ON THE FIRE LINES. CHANNEL 5 USED TO BE AN
INSTITUTION THAT WE REALLY RELIED ON. AND STAN CHAMBERS WAS
REALLY THE NUMBER ONE NEWS GATHERER WITH THE THEIR OTHER
COLLEAGUES FROM THE OTHER STATIONS. BUT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS
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A DISSERVICE WHEN YOU TURN ON 5 TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND
THERE WAS SOME THIRD-RATE SOAP OPERA. BUT LET ME MAKE SOME
MOTIONS. ONE, SUPERVISOR YAROSLAVSKY AND I, ON OCTOBER 21ST,
NUMEROUS FIRES BROKE OUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY RESULTING IN
LOSS OF PROPERTY. THE DISASTER SITE STILL REMAINS UNSAFE,
UNUSABLE WHICH HAS HAD A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON LIVES AND
BUSINESSES. ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY FOR THOSE
INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER FROM THE DISASTER.
THE CONDITIONS NECESSITATE THE PROCLAMATION OF THE EXISTENCE
OF A LOCAL EMERGENCY WITHIN OUR COUNTY. THESE DISASTERS WILL
REQUIRE CONTINUED EMERGENCY RESPONSE OPERATIONS TO ASSURE THE
SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC IN ALL RESPONSE AND RECOVERY PERSONNEL,
INCLUDING FIRE, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER RESPONSES NECESSARY.
ONCE THE CASES OF THESE FIRES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED TO PREVENT
OCCURRENCE OF SUCH EVENTS IN THE FUTURE. WE WOULD MOVE THAT
THE BOARD WOULD RATIFY THE ATTACHED PROCLAMATION OF A LOCAL
EMERGENCY MADE ON OCTOBER 21ST FOR THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
FIRES EVENT ON OCTOBER 21ST THAT STILL CONTINUE. THIS
PROCLAMATION SHALL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL ITS TERMINATION IS
PROCLAIMED BY THE BOARD, PROVEN DIRECTIVES CHAIRED ASSIGN UPON
THE BOARD APPROVAL THE ATTACHED PROCLAMATION OF A LOCAL
EMERGENCY TO OUR COUNTY, FORWARD A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION TO
THE GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA WITH THE REQUEST THAT HE PROCLAIM
THE EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY,
FORWARD A COPY OF THE PROCLAMATION TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE
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GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES WITH THE REQUEST THAT
THE DIRECTOR FIND IT ACCEPTABLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW
AND DIRECT THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER TO PLACE ON THE BOARD AGENDA,
A REVIEW EVERY TWO WEEKS OF THE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS
EMERGENCY PROCLAMATION WHILE EMERGENCY RESTORATION ACTIONS ARE
BEING TAKEN. SO MOVED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: WITHOUT OBJECTION, NONE UNANIMOUS VOTE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: OVER THE PAST WEEKEND, THE DEVASTATION, AS I
SAID IN THE SANTA CLARITA VALLEY, THESE FIRES ORIGINATED IN
AGUA DULCE, CASTIC, AND VAL VERDE AND THE STEVENSON RANCH.
THESE WERE IN ADDITION TO THE FIRE IN MALIBU NOT TO MENTION
THOSE DEVASTATIONS THAT WERE TAKING PLACE IN OTHER PARTS OF
THIS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA REGION. AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH OTHER
DISASTERS, PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS ARE CRUCIAL AND
CRITICAL IN ASSISTING INDIVIDUALS TO RECOVER MORTGAGE
PAYMENTS, PERMITS TO REBUILD AND PAYING PROPERTY TAXES. THE
COUNTY NEEDS TO EXPEDITE THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND REDUCE OR
RESTRUCTURE PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS. THE COUNTY CAN ASK BANKS
AND FINANCE COMPANIES TO RESCHEDULE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS TO
PROVIDE RELIEF FOR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES OR
SUFFER DAMAGE. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS
OF REGIONAL PLANNING AND PUBLIC WORKS TO EXPEDITE ISSUANCE OF
PERMITS AND ESTABLISH ONE STOP PERMITTING CENTERS TO THOSE
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AREAS IMPACTED BY THE RECENT FIRES. DIRECT THE COUNTY TAX
ASSESSOR TO DEVELOP CONCESSIONS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHOSE
HOMES WERE DESTROYED OR DAMAGED BY THE FIRES, EXTENDING
DEADLINES FOR UPCOMING PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS OR ADJUSTING
THOSE TAXES TO REFLECT THOSE LOSSES OR DEFERRING PAYMENTS FOR
FUTURE TAX YEARS. AND IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE TAX ASSESSOR
IN DEVELOPING SOME TYPE OF PROTOCOL. AND PREPARE A FIVE-
SIGNATURE BOARD LETTER TO LENDING INSTITUTIONS ASKING THAT
MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ON HOMES DAMAGED OR DESTROYED BY THE RECENT
FIRES IN LOS ANGELES BE TEMPORARILY DELAYED AND THAT ACCRUED
PAYMENTS BE ADDED TO THE END OF THE MORTGAGE TERM. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT PERHAPS DELAYING THE MORTGAGE PAYMENTS FOR FIVE,
SIX MONTHS AND THEN EXTENDING THEIR MORTGAGE FIVE OR SIX
MONTHS AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT, BUT WORKING WITH THE
PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. THE QUESTION IS: CAN WE PASS THIS
TODAY?
RAY FORTNER, COUNSEL: YES, WITH THE APPROPRIATE FINDINGS. THE
NEED FOR THIS MATTER CAME UP AND IT IS AN URGENT NEED. SO IF
YOUR BOARD MADE THOSE FINDINGS, IT COULD ACT ON IT.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: THE MOTION THAT THE FINDINGS TO APPROVE
THOSE FINDINGS IS MADE BY ANTONOVICH, I'LL SECOND IT; WITHOUT
OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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SUP. ANTONOVICH: AND THEN COULD WE DIRECT THE C.I.O --
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: DO YOU WANT TO APPROVE THE MOTION NOW?
SUP. ANTONOVICH: YEAH SO MOVED.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: SO IT'S MOVED BY ANTONOVICH, I'LL SECOND
IT. NO OBJECTION, UNANIMOUS VOTE.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: COULD WE ALSO ASK A REPORT FROM THE C.I.O.,
TO REPORT BACK IN A FEW WEEKS ON THE IMPACT THAT THE FIRES HAD
ON OUR EMPLOYEES AND HOW WE CAN ASSIST THEM, AS WELL? REPORT
BACK.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: ALL RIGHT.
SUP. ANTONOVICH: THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN YAROSLAVSKY: MISS BURKE, DID YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING? OR MR. KNABE? WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE BEFORE US? WE
HAVE A CLOSED SESSION AHEAD OF US?
CLERK SACHI HAMAI: IN ACCORDANCE WITH BROWN ACT REQUIREMENTS
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL
CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER CS-1
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CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATORS WILLIAM T FUJIOKA AND
DESIGNATED STAFF. CS-2 AND CS-3 CONFERENCES WITH REAL PROPERTY
NEGOTIATORS WILLIAM T FUJIOKA, STAN WISNIEWSKI, AND RICHARD
AND VOLPERT WITH RESPECT TO NEGOTIATIONS FOR PROPERTIES WITHIN
THE MARINA DEL REY SMALL CRAFT HARBOR AND CS-4 CONFERENCE WITH
LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING EXISTING LITIGATION AS INDICATED ON
THE POSTED AGENDA AND SUPPLEMENTAL AGENDA. THANK YOU.
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October 23, 2007
REPORT OF ACTION TAKEN IN CLOSED SESSION ON OCTOBER 23, 2007
No reportable action was taken on closed session items CS-1,
CS-2 and CS-3.
CS-4 CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Government Code Section 54956.9) Julian
Lopez v. Daniel Gordon, et al., Los Angeles Superior Court
Case No. MC 013260
This is a lawsuit for damages resulting from injuries
sustained by the plaintiff in a collision with a County
Sheriff's vehicle. (07-2643)
The Board authorized settlement of the above lawsuit titled
Julian Lopez v. Daniel Gordon, et al.. The substance of the
settlement will be disclosed upon inquiry by any person as
soon as the settlement becomes final following approval by all
parties.
The vote of the Board was unanimous with all Supervisors being
present.
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October 23, 2007
I, JENNIFER A. HINES, Certified Shorthand Reporter
Number 6029/RPR/CRR qualified in and for the State of
California, do hereby certify:
That the transcripts of proceedings recorded by the
Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors October 23, 2007,
were thereafter transcribed into typewriting under my
direction and supervision;
That the transcript of recorded proceedings as
archived in the office of the reporter and which
have been provided to the Los Angeles County Board of
Supervisors as certified by me.
I further certify that I am neither counsel for, nor
related to any party to the said action; nor
in anywise interested in the outcome thereof.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this
25th day of October 2007 for the County records to be used
only for authentication purposes of duly certified transcripts
as on file of the office of the reporter.
JENNIFER A. HINES
CSR No. 6029/RPR/CRR
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