Family Medicine in Germany 1. Specialization – how to get there in Germany? 2. How do we trainees...

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Family Medicine in Germany 1. Specialization – how to get there in Germany?

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Family Medicine in Germany

1. Specialization – how to get there in Germany?

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Overview I

➲5 years of training

➲Each state has its own curriculum (16!)

➲Curriculums always contain: General Medicine, Internal Medicine, Surgery

➲Courses required: Psychosomatic medicine (80 hours), payable by trainee, not within working hours

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Overwiev II➲Some curriculums contain (less in rural areas): Pediatrics, Orthopedics, Anesthesia or Intensive care

➲No formal inscription / organization of the training: each part of the training has to be organized by the trainee himself by applying in the clinic/ practice for the period required (in some states changing to organized training)➲Payment: in hospitals according to other doctors. In practices/ surgeries with support from a program called IPAM. So the practice owner is paying only the social insurance payments but not the full salary!

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Overwiev III

➲„Numbers“ to reach in all curriculums: ecg, 24-hours-ecg, 24-hours-bloodpressure, sonography (abdomen, thyroid), duplex (carotis), doppler (iliacal/fermoral veins), proctoscopy, but also for certain situations like emergency situations, dealing with diabetics, vaccinations etc.

➲„log-book“ to certify all this

➲Exam is made of „kollegial“ talk, 30 minutes, 4 examining Gps, common medical problems are examined theoretically

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Training in Berlin

➲6 months internal medicine (in hospital)

➲18 months general / family medicine

➲6 months pediatrics

➲6 months surgery

➲6 months orthopedics

➲3 months anesthesia (former intensive care)

➲80 hours-course psychosomatics (50 hours theory, 30 hours Balint-group)

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one example: How did I do it?

●6 months geriatrics in hospital

●12 months internal medicine in hospital

●3 months intensive care unit in hospital

●6 months pediatrics in practice

●12 months family medicine in practice

●6 months orthopedics in practice

●4 months internal medicine in practice

●6 months surgery in practice

●6 months family medicine in practice

●Course 80 hours psychosomatics

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What is good?

➲Breaks in between are possible

➲Applying in practice / hospital that suits your interests / location / known good teacher etc.

➲Good choice of working places, more posts than trainees due to lack of doctors

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What bad?

➲Unemployed times between 2 posts sometimes unavoidable

➲Constantly applying for new jobs is quite stressful: once you start one post you have to apply for the next one.

➲Not all posts have doctors/trainers willing to teach, it´s rather the workforce they want! There is no fixed recruitment requirements concerning the teaching abilities of trainers!

➲No mentor.

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How would it be better?

➲Structured application for 5-years specialization would give a security for planing, no unemployed times but also the possibility to learn all you need.

➲Obligatory courses should be free of costs for trainees and during their working-time.

➲Curriculums should contain less times and numbers but competences / skills.

➲Teach the teachers!!

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Family Medicine in Germany

2. How do we trainees connect?

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Connections between trainees I

➲Special situation since we have no formal registration and individual rotations so we don´t meet our collegues

➲WABe in Berlin: group for trainees was established around 2007 to help each other, to exchange, and - most important: to evaluate training posts!! Now around 350 members online, regular monthly meetings visited by usually 15 to 30 members.

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Connections between trainees II

➲In 2009 JADe (= Junge Allgemeinmedizin Deutschland) was founded as a youngsters group of the DEGAM (german professional Family medicine association), now with more than 600 members online.

➲JADe is the german partner of the VdGM = Vasco da Gama Movement, the youngsters organisation of the WONCA.

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Family Medicine in Germany

3. How do Gps/FPs work in Germany?

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How do Gps/FPs work in Germany?

➲Always in private practice, responsible (and free to decide!) for equipment, number of nurses, timetable, vacation-time, laboratory, decision if homevisits or no, special interests, (methadone program, manual medicine, acupuncture, sonography...) etc. GP als financial responsible for all the above.

➲Alone or with mainly 2-4 other GPs or other specialists

➲GPs make contracts with communal health companies and get reimbursement for around 90% of patients for that (other 10% of patients have a „private“ health insurance... I won´t talk about that here..)

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How do Gps/FPs work in Germany?

➲No patient list! Patients need no registration! Patients can go to any GP or other specialist they want without referral, as often as the want!

➲GPs get paid for the face-to-face-contacts with one patient within a 3-month period (jan-march, april-june...), but get paid only once in these 3 months, even if patient comes 10 times or more!

➲On average a GP gets to see around 900 patients in 3 months (but some several times, we have on average around 14 dr-patient-contacts per year!)

➲Reimbursement ist more for older patients, children and patients with chronic diseases

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How do Gps/FPs work in Germany?

➲Reimbursement (for 3 months) is around 50€ for any patient (more for elderly ~ 60-70€, and children), extra 20-30€ for chronic patients.

➲Extra payments for vaccinations, psychocomatic intervention, important-live-change-talk, chronic-disease-programs and some preventions.

➲Consultations and all investigations referred to by the GP are free of costs for the patient.

➲Patients need to pay 5 to 10 € for recipies for medication and physical treatment (max. 2% of their yearly income per year).

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Thank you

➲For questions:

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