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Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
FAITH AND
A Personal Journey to Faith via Science
Science
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
KEITH UNDERDOWN-THE SCIENTIST
Cardiffian, educated at Canton High School ABB in Chemistry, Physics, Pure & Applied
Maths 2.2 in Biochemistry University of Sussex
Worked with John Maynard-Smith & Brian Goodwin
Mathematical Modelling of Biological Processes Research Assistant in Psychology Dept
Nottingham University Hand-eye co-ordination model Departmental programmer
Main career in IT—ICL, Girobank, A&L, Consultancy
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
KEITH UNDERDOWN-THE CHRISTIAN
Brought up a Congregationalist in Ely Felt the tension between science & faith in
teens Lacked courage not to become church
member Fell away at university Met and married Meg, a vicar’s daughter Confirmed as an Anglican in my 30s Meg has had a 15yr path to ordination
Made me question my Christian Commitment Conclusion:
I’m a happy Theist but struggle with Salvation
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
Science & Faith are not inimical but: Science deals with the material universe Therefore science cannot prove or disprove the
existence of God
But Understanding the universe through science
Reveals the Creator Not physics but metaphysics Evolution is random but built in to the universe
This is only a step towards the full acceptance of the Love of God
PERSONAL CREDO
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
SOME DEFINITIONS
Science is a shorthand for “the scientific method” or “a body of knowledge” Comes from Latin “scio—I know” (not Welsh
to ski!) Science is a process I will not use “Science” except at the
beginning of a sentence Using “Science” is a reification; but a short
stop from “deification” Saying “Science tells us...” is a religious
statement! I have exactly the same view of evolution
It’s a process (in fact a contigent process) Using “Evolution” is a deification
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
WHAT IS “FAITH”
“Faith” is tricky because in English we use it in many ways: “I have faith in him” “She was always faithful to him, despite
everything” His Christian Faith carried him through
"Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see," (Heb. 11:1)
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
FAITH—IMPORTANT WORD IN NT
Faith is where the Promises and Work of God are made real to His redeemed. Ephesians 2:8-9, We are saved by faith. Rom. 1:17, We live by faith. Rom. 4:13, We receive righteousness by faith. Rom. 5:1, We are justified in Christ by faith Rom. 5:2, We have access to God's grace by
faith. 2 Cor. 1:24, We stand firm in our belief by faith. Gal. 3:14, We receive the promise of the Spirit by
faith. 1 Tim. 1:4, We do God's work is by faith. Gal. 5:5, We wait for the return of Christ by faith.
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
“FAITH “AS A SYNONYM FOR “RELIGION”
Why do we say “Christian Faith” but “World Religions”?
Religion derives from Latin: “re”—a thing “ligare”—to tie or bind (c.f. Ligature) So religion is “that which binds one”
Properly expressed, Christianity does not bind The love of God sets us free Love God and do as you please (St Augustine of
Hippo) But fundamentalist Christianity is a religion
Thou shalt not....
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
WHAT FAITH IS NOT:
Webster’s dictionary: an unquestioning belief that does not require
proof or evidence. Richard Dawkins
“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.” (1977)
“I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.”
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
WHY I NEVER ABANDONED MY FAITH
My best friend was the son of Salvationists literally believed the Bible But grew into gay man & a non-believer
I had major argument with RE teacher I claimed that science made the Bible outmoded
If I had someone to talk things through with I might have rejected church membership and
lapsed Or I might have resolved this issues a lot sooner
in my life I struggled on
Because ice freezes from the top!
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
THE SCIENCE BIT
Water is seriously weird H2O “weighs” 18 units H=1, O=16 O2 “weighs” 32 units Boiling point directly related to “weight” O2 Boils at -182.9C H2O Boils at 100C H2O essential for life H2S smells horrible, is toxic and gaseous H2Se & H2Te incredibly unstable, very toxic &
unimaginably smelly and gaseous Frozen water less dense than liquid water
So ice floats
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
WEIRD WATER
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
WHY IS WATER WEIRD?
The hydrogen bond Water is electrically neutral O atom drags electrons towards it -ve*2 Each H +ve
Molecules clump together Densest at 4C because clumped closest
together
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
ICE &WATER
Water at 4C
Ice at 0C
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
HYDROGEN BOND KEY TO LIFE
Gives structure to biological molecules DNA Proteins Everything
Genetic Information carried by 4 bases Thymine & Adenine
pair up with 2 hydrogen bonds Cytosine & Guanine
pair up with 3 hydrogen bonds
3 base pairs code to one amino acid
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
MOLECULAR ZIP FASTNER
Easy to copy accurately Force the hydrogen bonds apart Add complementary base to new backbone Two copies
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HYDROGEN BOND & THE CREATOR
It’s counter-intuitive but it works Suggests an intelligence
How can I tweak the rules to make the game more exciting?
Suggests a tendency towards organisation Emergent behaviour => life
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
THE CREATOR & EVOLUTION
The universe is structured so that life emerges
What’s my evidence for that All matter built by stars—”We are stardust” Several peculiarities in that
Carbon likes to bond with itself There’s too much iron The hydrogen bond
Building blocks exist in inter-stellar space Pre-life was “just” chemistry Chemicals became organised into cells Cells grouped into organisms Genes are conserved
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
GENES ARE CONSERVED
Genes control development as well as defining proteins
Called HOX genes. Switch on hox genes for eyes
in the wrong place creates extra eyes
There’s a mammalian HOX gene for eye development too
Introducing the mouse HOX gene into developing fruit flies Creates extra fruit fly eyes!
This implies that “eyeness” was conserved from the earliest point it emerged but the eyes developed in different ways. Molluscs have eyes that are better constructed than ours!
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
GOD CREATED A UNIVERSE IN WHICH EVOLUTION WOULD HAPPEN
We’ve already seen that the Universe it self is evolving
At some point its complexity could support life (about 4.5 billion years ago) God did not inject the spark of life
That life increased in complexity A random process so sometimes seems to go
backward Produces bizarre forms that work in a given
niche From life will emerge consciousness
No input from God Emergent behaviour
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
Science & Faith are not inimical but: Science deals with the material universe Therefore science cannot prove or disprove the
existence of God
But Understanding the universe through science
Reveals the Creator Not physics but metaphysics Evolution is random but built in to the universe
This is only a step towards the full acceptance of the Love of God
PERSONAL CREDO
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
PSALM 19 (FROM THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE)
To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David.
1THE HEAVENS declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows and proclaims His handiwork. 2Day after day pours forth speech, and night after night shows forth knowledge.
3There is no speech nor spoken word [from the stars]; their voice is not heard. 4Yet their voice [in evidence] goes out through all the earth, their sayings to the end of the world.
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THE HEAVENS ARE TELLING
“The images, especially the butterfly, don't just show science, but can evoke a sense of spirituality.” Leckrone said. “What I see is the grandeur of creation, however it got
there.”
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
DOUBLE HELIX GALAXY
An interesting parallel between the cosmological & the biological
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
THE EYE OF GOD
Faith and Science—St Teilo’s 2010-11-22
GALAXIES COLLIDING