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Estimating Divergence Dates Some practical problems: - Can be a steep learning curve - New methods outstrip supply of software - Suitable datasets hard to come by Some rewards: - Gain a better understanding for phylogenetic methodology - Add a new dimension to your analyses - Address some really cool questions!

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Estimating Divergence Dates

Some practical problems:

- Can be a steep learning curve

- New methods outstrip supply of software

- Suitable datasets hard to come by

Some rewards:

- Gain a better understanding for phylogenetic methodology

- Add a new dimension to your analyses

- Address some really cool questions!

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Paleocene

Cretaceous

Late Cretaceous

Early Cretaceous

Late Jurassic

157ma ±

146ma ±

97ma ±

65ma ±

Modern Birds

‘Ratites’ and

tinamousNeognathae

Neornithes

Archaeopteryx

Paleognathae

The Radiation of Modern Birds

Feduccia, 1995Tertiary ‘big bang’

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Did modern birds survive the K-T boundary?

Modern Birds

Fossil EvidenceBird

Modern birds much older - Gondwanic origin?

Molecular data

Modern Birds

Bird

KT

65 ma

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Modern Birds

Fossil EvidenceBird

KT

65 ma

What about their parasites?

Younger than their

hosts?

Parasitic lice

Molecular dataLouse

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Modern Birds

Fossil EvidenceBird

KT

65 ma

What about their parasites?

As old as their hosts?

Parasitic lice

Molecular dataLouse

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Modern Birds

Fossil EvidenceBird

KT

65 ma

What about their parasites?

Older than their hosts?

Parasitic lice

Molecular dataLouse

Did modern birds & their lice survive the K-T boundary?Did modern birds & their lice survive the K-T boundary?Did dinosaurs have lice?

Part 1 Part 2

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http://darwin.zoology.gla.ac.uk/~vsmith/temp/rates/

Or get the files from my USB flash drive

Part 1: (Qdate) Mac OS Classic or MS Windows

Part 2: (r8s) Mac OSX only

Files available at:

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Quartets

All dating methods require:

- Calibration points

- Estimates of genetic divergence

- “Some” estimate of phylogeney

Ordinalrelationships of birds unknown!

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Quartets

F Corvidae

F Turdidae

F AnatidaeF Meleagrididae

Earliest fossils

Genetic

divergence

Genetic

divergence

Divergence time estimatedfrom calibrated evolutionaryrates of distantly related pairs of taxa.

Divergence date

- Tree topology not in question- No assumptions needed

(two orders are compared at a time)about rate constancy - maybe?

- Estimate across multiple quartets

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Fossil Lice

Psocoptera

Menacanthus /Menopon - complex

Ricinidae

Laemobothriidae

Boopiidae

Austromenopon- complex

Dennyus- complex

Colpocephalum- complex

• Collected Eckfeld maar near Eifel, Germany

• Middle Eocene (Middle Lutetian, 44.3±0.4 Ma)

• First fossil louse

• Completes ordinal representation of fossil insects

• Excellent preservation

• Phylogenetic affinities with modern feather lice

• Parasite of Anseriformes or Charadriiformes

• Crown group position

• Suggests lice are very old

• Points to a long coevolutionary history with birds

• Useful molecular calibration point

Wappler, Smith & Dalgleish, Proc.R.Soc., 2004.

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Cospeciation Events

Constraints

Min. Age 44 ma

Louse Fossil

Combined ML

0.1

(18s, COI, EF1-)

Dove-Louse Cospeciation

Age Fixed 19.8 ma

Rhea/Ostrich-Louse Cospeciation

Age Fixed 60 ma

Primate-Louse Cospeciation

Age Fixed 4.5 ma

Amblyce

raIsch

noce

raAnoplu

ra

Rhyn.

Louse Phylogeny (unsmoothed)

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Host Implications

2-300ma ?