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edchatie Number 56

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A weekly discussion involving Irish & World educators. This week's topic: "What features

should digital textbooks have within the next five years?" Mon 30th April, 2012

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peter_lydon 13 hours ago

RT @fboss: Tonight's #edchatie discussion:"What features should digital textbooks have within the next five years?" See you @ 8.30pm (Irish time)


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fboss 13 hours ago

Welcome to tonight's #edchatie - before we begin what'll be an interesting topic "digital textbooks" please introduce yourselves


fboss 13 hours ago

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#edchatie Peter Lydon



Fred Boss, over Drogheda way - post primary - also enjoys Kindling from time-to-time #edchatie


fboss 13 hours ago

Trevor post primary #edchatie


ConnollyTrevor 13 hours ago

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SeasSuasNet 13 hours ago

Krista, Kindle lover, Cavan #edchatie


markievicz_ 13 hours ago

Tony Sheppard based in Engalnd #edchatie reading digital textbooks since 2001, now on iPad and Kindle App.


grumbledook 13 hours ago

WHikle intros are ongoing, I promised I would RT for @mrNeilButler as he added some interesting info & comments earlier #edchatie ...


fboss 13 hours ago

RT @mrNeilButler: i'm *mad* busy doing work for college so no #edchatietonight. but: digital textbooks. the current crop are absolute rubbish, little more...


fboss 13 hours ago

RT @mrNeilButler: ... than digital flipbooks. check out: this ipad app:http://t.co/faLzz4eq . and read this: http://t.co/TzYELwDd #edchatie

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fboss 13 hours ago








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clontuskertns 13 hours ago

#edchatie Ronan Herron Ed&ICT advocate


rherron 13 hours ago

#edchatie I think we need to move away from books onto more digital friendly resources. Simply reproducing books is the worst of both worlds


conpower 13 hours ago

So, "What features should digital textbooks have within the next five years?" realistically / futuristically / hopefully #edchatie


fboss 13 hours ago

#edchatie Holographic displays



Mary Jo. Primary, Shankill. #edchatie


7MJB 13 hours ago

A pair of google glasses: http://t.co/qpTXgJ85 #edchatie



RT @conpower: #edchatie I think we need to move away from books.. reproducing books is the worst of both worlds <- +1 #edchatie



It would be great to include an discussion feature,so that topics being studied in the digital textbook are discussed worldwide #edchatie

Reply Retweet Favorite catherinem23 13 hours ago

@conpower Think you need some book-ish qualities though - note taking, ability to record own thoughts, add to own learning library #edchatie


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fboss 13 hours ago

RT @peter_lydon: #edchatie Holographic displays <- now y'er talkin' :)#edchatie



@MissionVHQ #edchatie Apple have patented some initial ideas along this line.



Pam Maths lecturer Tipperary #Edchatie

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#edchatie


topgold 13 hours ago

Integrated workbook with self correcting quizzes should not be out of reach today #edchatie



#edchatie We will always need knowledge in written form...it's the 'fringe benefits' that we can now access



@peter_lydon what's this #edchatie hashtag about?


m_mccutcheon 13 hours ago

Just look at Imaginate prize winning entries from 2010 for ideas on where students want 'books' to go http://t.co/5kfz5IV6 #edchatie



@ConnollyTrevor #edchatie do-able already - no reason not to have this



Biggest problem we have encounterd is students not being able to flick between questions to material. Need q's floating on top #edchatie














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#edchatie teaching epublishing at third level.



@m_mccutcheon #edchatie chat on education in Ireland



@catherinem23 I agree - hashtag a quote or book as is already being done inhttp://t.co/7LumdfZV (and on #edchatie daily) #edchatie


fboss 13 hours ago

@peter_lydon do people know that's what it means? #edchatie


m_mccutcheon 13 hours ago

Realistically voice recording, paint, dictionary, embedded video, video recording...at least...should already be in digital books #edchatie


MrEvessonENG 13 hours ago

@topgold Write book. Buy Scrivener. EPublish book. Home for tea. #edchatie


Tupp_Ed 13 hours ago

#edchatie Need automatically updating of statistics etc...can be done now but needs to be able to search intelligently in case url moves



@MissionVHQ Very cool ideas. Scary to think kids will experience these and beyond! #edchatie



@m_mccutcheon Think so #edchatie Fred is your man @fboss

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#edchatie NB The ability to run on ALL platforms










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#edchatie object manipulation within a holographic display



#edchatie Augmented Reality. Love to have a group of kids point their phones around Lough Gur and see stone age people at work!



inbuilt learning analytics http://t.co/XIPhzBu4 #edchatie



@peter_lydon Hi there @m_mccutcheon -> feel free to join in if you would like to. It's an open discussion on digital textbooks #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@topgold I know - wanna be in your class #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@fboss @conpower Thats where One Note comes into its own. #Edchatie


MorganFinucane 12 hours ago

I would love to see a digital grammar text book that pupils buy in first year that archives their language development #edchatie



@conpower #edchatie think 'Princess Leia' only Stalin, Hitler, Chruchill, Humboldt, Einstein - could ask any question, get answer.



@conpower that would be brilliant and it could be used for any subject!#edchatie

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@Tupp_Ed but the thrust of most #edchatie discussion on ebooks centers on annotated consumption, I think.



#edchatie Think Holographic Display crossed with Siri



RT @topgold: @Tupp_Ed but the thrust of most #edchatie discussion on ebooks centers on annotated consumption, I think.



@MorganFinucane @conpower I like One Note & it's an App now too on many devices (I think) #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

RT @fboss: @MorganFinucane @conpower I like One Note & it's an App now too on many devices (I think) #edchatie |+1



@peter_lydon like this http://t.co/tDHwKk9k #edchatie



@johnmayo #edchatie I suppose it's start!



Hi all, Edel History/Re teacher, just watching from afar this evening, corrections to finish #edchatie


MsTumelty 12 hours ago

@conpower yeah, 50% -ish of entries had a 3D / holographic element. Kids really do want immersion. #edchatie

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#edchatie Worth look at where the content will come from - teachers, students everyone digital creators! Best content will come through.



RT: #edchatie Augmented Reality. Love to have a group of kids point their phones around Lough Gur and see stone ... http://t.co/Cb2sd7lE


AugmentedAdvert 12 hours ago

@MissionVHQ #edchatie All the time? Sensory overload could be an issue.



@KristianStill LIke that "textbooks - all the answers!" #edchatie -> Wonder if they could also hold all of students' questions though?


@MissionVHQ @conpower: #edchatie But there is nothing wrong with long form reading.



#edchatie Great opportunity - a cheap android tablet loaded with open source content will be a cheaper alternative to published school books



#edchatie I have only used the online versions of current text books, what is available now in apps & what is the very next step?



@peter_lydon = Kinect. We've got @saorog working on something like that (though not holographic obviously, but 3D) #edchatie



RT @conpower: #edchatie Great opportunity - a cheap android tablet loaded with open source content will be a cheaper alternative to published school books







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@peter_lydon Agree with you on sensory overload. Must give the theatre of the mind space to develop through reading. #edchatie



@topgold @MissionVHQ @conpower Some wpould say that long form reading is a dying art (PISA results?) #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

RT @topgold: @jtcurragh MT @conpower: #edchatie AR. Love to have a group of kids point their phones around Lough Gur and see stone age people at work!


pamelaaobrien 12 hours ago

@topgold #edchatie Totally agreed...esp. teenagers - they use distraction and day dreaming as time to

integrate new learning.


@conpower Realsim in Galway working on similar for Clonmacnoise. Geo-located iPad augmented reality app to see the city as it was. #edchatie



@MissionVHQ #edchatie sure...good gig....manipulation coudl be good for things like 'safe' science experiments



Think comixology guided view would be great for childrens' ebooks, maybe good to help focus #edchatie


7MJB 12 hours ago

Educators using #edchatie to discuss digital textbook evolution for a twitter hour. #eprdctn



I know myself that I need a break from screens, so downtime could be built into a digital textbook #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

#edchatie I think some people often forget that one function of school is the gradual easing into the real world. ...1/2
































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RT @conpower: #edchatie Augmented Reality. Love to have a group of kids point their phones around Lough Gur and see stone age people at work!



#edchatie 2/2 too much 'real world' learning can backfire on younger children



#edchatie would a social network style approach work with class topic discussions in class & wider afield built into the digital book?



@MissionVHQ #edchatie Saw a mock up of that at CESI. A window to the past amazing for history.



@rherron @conpower #edchatie It would be interesting to see if curriculum developers would abandon publishers for open source content.



#edchatie #taap "textbook as a platform" where best user(teacher or student) generated content gets voted up and is curriculum-validated



@fboss #edchatie Yes...Hal 9000 could tell you when to stop learning .....



RT @topgold: Educators using #edchatie to discuss digital textbook evolution for a twitter hour. #eprdctn


lizcastro 12 hours ago

RT @topgold: @rherron @conpower #edchatie It would be interesting to see if curriculum developers would abandon publishers for open source content.



@topgold @rherron #edchatie Absolutely nothing holding second level teachers back from using open source if its there.





















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@topgold #edchatie I could teach my subject entirely by open source...and it would give my students a better set of skills and knowledge.



RT @peter_lydon: #edchatie 2/2 too much 'real world' learning can backfire on younger children


frogphilp 12 hours ago

@conpower #edchatie parents/school management still fixated on books and 'traditional teaching' combined with exam grinding



Who are these curriculum developers you speak off #edchatie



RT @peter_lydon: @topgold #edchatie I could teach my subject entirely by open source...and it would give my students a better set of skills and knowledge.


tbbrwn 12 hours ago

@peter_lydon Change is coming... look at new JC #edchatie



Augmented reality = http://t.co/zMiQIKgv = students pointing devices @ teacher (or something more interesting) #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@conpower #edchatie The New JC is an (almost) complete and utter disaster IMHO


@ConnollyTrevor I think the 'social network' that comes with Kindle is overlooked. Simple social annotation. #edchatie











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@rherron And what format do you think #taap would follow? #edchatie



@peter_lydon Exactly - when you're brain has had enough you can be signed out of class/go for a walk... #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@peter_lydon #edchatie I disagree. I think it shows good vision.



#edchatie teachers should be able to develop content but more value in getting students to develop content



@ConnollyTrevor What about building the book up around the social learning & collaboration for all in the class #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

History books with embedded games. Build your own Roman town and learn individual terms. Perfect for 'People in History' question #edchatie



@conpower #edchatie the Exams haven't gone away you know!!! If you like a a good rant, here's one http://t.co/UO9oaZDc



@MissionVHQ I wonder if an iPad play is too exclusive for a mass audience.#edchatie



@rherron @conpower #edchatie No real change in the point system. It should be abolished.


@rherron A sort of Ed-Reddit http://t.co/nWpUh0nA <-liking it. Would love to see it in lead up to exams too for topic choice #edchatie


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@peter_lydon @rherron #edchatie points system is one dimensional, if you are not a rote learner you are pretty much sunk.



digital literacy high in Irish students, technology should be part of curriculum 2 keep this level n avoid a future fall in levels #edchatie



We also need smarter teachers capable if using this technology - have faith in tech to get there, teachers?????? #edchatie



RT @topgold: I wonder if an iPad play is too exclusive for a mass audience <- yes. #edchatie


OER = http://t.co/K7kYowDh there must be something there that can be used. Suppose the students help to mine it though ?#edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@rherron that doesn't sound like a textbook (no problem) but rather a focused app #edchatie



@johnmayo #edchatie smarter? or just more knowledgeable?



#edchatie also games-based-learning could be well accomodated within a system that thinks of itself as a platform as opposed to an #ebook



@johnmayo i'd argue: more willing to try new technologies/apps/etc. don't really have to be smarter :) #edchatie


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@MissionVHQ @ConnollyTrevor I find it a little cumbersome in the "old style" method of texting it employs (on my Kindle anyway) #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@peter_lydon One of my final exams permits the use of ebooks in the exam hall. #edchatie



If MIT can do this with 2100 courses: http://t.co/fqCJiCCO can we not do the same for our subjects at second level. #edchatie



@rherron I'm biased but to me the ultimate ebook *is* game-based learning#edchatie



@topgold #edchatie Not a bad idea at all...got to be able to use source material intelligently after all. Better exam.



@markievicz_ do Irish teachers rate as high in digital literacy as the students?#edchatie


tbbrwn 12 hours ago

@MrEvessonENG @fboss #edchatie BBC website - fly though a Roman Fort or solve a murder in ancient rome: http://t.co/G3O5GmQa



@MissionVHQ #edchatie GBL is not an eBook!



Halfway through an hour-long #edchatie about features digital textbooks should have within the next five years. #eprdctn



@MrEvessonENG Not just History, what about Art & Geography of Roman times + philosophy + mythology & religion <- combined #edchatie


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RT @tbbrwn: @markievicz_ do Irish teachers rate as high in digital literacy as the students? #edchatie >> Good question



@fboss @MissionVHQ it would have to be cross platform, each class cannot begin with a tech demo for each app #edchatie



@fboss agreed, why can't it have Swype :) #edchatie



@fboss @MrEvessonENG #edchatie - that's where holographic displays come in - object manipulation to build things, learn real skills safely


@rherron Planning to scan all books in the primary school backpack into Kindle and iBook. #edchatie



@johnmayo The students will tend to leapfrog those teachers that can't keep up in their own time & using own devices #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@tbbrwn I highly doubt it!should be more tech based modules in teacher ed courses, its just not enough to meet demands in class #edchatie



#edchatie Hmm..teaching as baby-sitting where the kids teach the teachers what they have learned.



Several excellent immersive and role-playing options in tonight's #edchatiediscussion.



@fboss Wikibooks would be useful in that links to material could be easily included and a textbook would be dynamic over static.#edchatie

















































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mynameisdermot 12 hours ago

@fboss @johnmayo #edchatie Very common to have students showing teachers whats what when it comes to ICT - and why not!



@tbbrwn @johnmayo I agree - they need to be confident enough to allow learning to happen with tech #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

MT @MissionVHQ: Imaginate prize winning entries from 2010-where students want 'books' to go http://t.co/NCIc0MEu #edchatie food for thought



RT @conpower: @fboss @johnmayo #edchatie Very common to have students showing teachers whats what when it comes to ICT - and why not! ?+1


fboss 12 hours ago

@fboss Agreed re: leapfrogging. teachers' technology needs to be on a pretty tight replacement cycle to be effective. = expensive! #edchatie


tbbrwn 12 hours ago

#edchatie How about films where you can pause the films and ask the actors questions before pressing play again



RT @conpower: If MIT can do this with 2100 courses: http://t.co/XyIvCtQGcan we not do the same for our subjects at second level. #edchatie



#edchatie first and foremost the digital textbook needs what all text books do. Good content linked to other good content.


grumbledook 12 hours ago

@mynameisdermot Interested to know if a student could save their version of the wikibook to their device & another their version? #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

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@grumbledook #edchatie but updateable automatically.



@fboss feed your sailors and reach the New World or don't and learn about the diseases they died from. Endless possibilities. #edchatie



#edchatie some1 mentioned "theatre of the mind" in rel to reading trad books, the aparatus of imagination cannot be reproduced by technology



@rherron that was @topgold #edchatie



@tbbrwn I know and BYOD doesn't altogether bring a catch-all to that either, unfortunately #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

Would love to see Maths books where Maths all around you could be looked at#edchatie



#edchatie Imagine things like Dublinia, only better and digital.



@peter_lydon one of our teachers said GBL broke the teacher-student divide - learning together [sorry off topic] #edchatie



@fboss There are a number of options, could have a separate wiki for notes or encompass a separate page for additional material. #edchatie

Reply Retweet Favorite mynameisdermot 12 hours ago

#edchatie A room in school with 360 degree projection would be amazing. Witness History, Geography, great musical performances.
















































@MissionVHQ #edchatie a good thing, but worth remembering, we're not there to learn their stuff (primarily) they are the focus. but no harm



@grumbledook agreed, + add range of materials & options that are not practical with physical constraints -get the easy bits on #EdChatie



RT @conpower: MIT's 2100 courses: http://t.co/CPEZSmvD can we not do same for our subjects at second level. #edchatie <-Not if Cert is ALL


RT @fboss: RT @conpower: @fboss @johnmayo #edchatie Very common to have students showing teachers whats what when it comes to ICT - and why not! ?+1



RT @conpower: #edchatie A room in school with 360 degree projection would be amazing. Witness History, Geography, great musical performances.



@conpower #edchatie that's the idea.



@mynameisdermot @fboss #edchatie I love the wikibook feature. Should be explored for second level, dept. should take the lead.



@fboss @conpower @johnmayo good to have all learning in the classroom including teacher #edchatie



#edchatie Alexandra College introducing ipads for all 1st yrs in September with all textbooks preloaded, interactive not just pdfs - discuss

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RT @conpower: #edchatie A room in school with 360 degree projection would be amazing. Witness History, Geography, great musical performances


HazelKLarkin 12 hours ago

@pamelaaobrien in the way that Seymour Papert said "To learn math you must visit mathland"... (or something like that)? #edchatie



@rherron #edchatie poor use of such a device



RT '@ConnollyTrevor Integrated workbook with self correcting quizzes should not be out of reach today #edchatie '

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RT @jtcurragh You can see graveyards in Lough Gur using LAYAR now. Same tech can be used for prehistoric reconstruction drawings. #edchatie



@johnmayo @tbbrwn @markievicz_ "Digital natives" still need to be taught digital literacy. #edchatie



@rherron #edchatie Good few schools did this last year.



@MissionVHQ don't think all that many if us living in mathland! We take it for granted - need to move out of that comfort zone #edchatie



@mynameisdermot This is where I become a teacher who is there to help rather than instruct as not 100% up on Wikis (L plates) #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

#edchatie This sort of thing http://t.co/UkgnzT0O @HazelKLarkin



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@topgold @thenext100k @jtcurragh Cross Curricular - get the students to draw them in SketchUp for their drawing class. #edchatie



@peter_lydon @HazelKLarkin #edchatie Holodeck... end program. Holodeck not responding...



@conpower #edchatie Sure...going to always need a Plan B



@mynameisdermot @johnmayo @tbbrwn @markievicz_ 'digital literacy' concept often misunderstood by so called 'digital natives' #edchatie



RT @ConnollyTrevor: @fboss @MissionVHQ it would have to be cross platform, each class can't begin with a tech demo for each app #edchatie +1


fboss 12 hours ago

@grumbledook I think excellent textbooks always have live revision notes once published. #edchatie



@fboss Check out this example http://t.co/asDC9L2K - it is pretty intuitive...hopefully! #edchatie



No exploration with traditional books. I always found students particularly bad at reflecting on their learning. #edchatie

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@peter_lydon "kids teach the teachers what they have learned" = show what you know. Demonstrate learning! #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago




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#edchatie Not too much to say Everything that is knowable is on the web (except wisdom??)..so use devices to teach kids how to find it



Because most of the JC is regurgitation, some students find it hard to cope with project work that requires them to think.. // #edchatie



@mynameisdermot Will definitely do - thanks for that link! #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

Agree @MoloneyKing @ConnollyTrevor .. quiz results can be used for assessment #edchatie (NO correction work for teachers!!) ;o)

Reply Retweet Favorite perkypawn 12 hours ago

@conpower funny how that dearth of reflection continues up through third level. #edchatie



#edchatie what about the book as beautiful artifact? What if anything do we loose in the "race" to digital books?



@topgold #edchatie Goes to show, not all learning could/should take place on devices no matter the App or device...try P4C



RT @rherron: #edchatie what about the book as beautiful artifact? What if anything do we loose in the "race" to digital books?



@pamelaaobrien @johnmayo @tbbrwn @markievicz_ In what ways? #edchatie



@topgold #edchatie "Just tell us what to say Sir" is a common phrase I hear when doing action projects with the kids. No answers in the book
















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@rherron The Book of Kells was digitised in order to reproduce it, but it's still shown 1 page at a time to public #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@rherron #edchatie Can't be having any of that romantic nonsense in our Brave New World!



@lecraic Some Irish IOTs and unis have elearning staff who produce web-friendly material. #edchatie



#edchatie @conpower get them used to it with this http://t.co/n2K84M8A



@perkypawn @ConnollyTrevor LOL Ture..no correction for teachers but the children love being independent learners. #edchatie


MoloneyKing 12 hours ago

@fboss @peter_lydon Kids from #coderdojo have gone back and taught their teachers Scratch - win win in my view #edchatie



Remember how Jean Luc Picard in Star Trek had an emotional attachment to the 'feel' of a real book. Never understood that myself. #edchatie



@HazelKLarkin #edchatie there's a nice scene in the Jedi Archives but can't find it...they have books and technology!



We're into the final 10 official minutes of tonight's #edchatie about "What should be in digital textbooks 5 years from now"


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@mynameisdermot @johnmayo @tbbrwn @markievicz_ they're often comfortable with tech and it's use but their use can be inappropriate#edchatie



I tell the kids how we didn't have mobiles in school. Our kids will be talking about the time when they had paper books... #edchatie



@conpower @topgold I find along the same lines when teaching some teachers Scratch computer programming.... #edchatie



@conpower #edchatie It's pretty good - based on Philosophy for Children research by Matthew Lipman - for

younger kids but JC etc will like


@conpower @topgold @johnmayo Static nature of textbooks encourages students to view all knowledge as known. #edchatie



@rherron Have to admit though, I LOVE the smell of an old book:http://t.co/WIxP0RoZ #edchatie Would that my Kindle could do that


fboss 12 hours ago

@rherron #edchatie Agreed.



@MissionVHQ I love the feel of a 'real' book - not a Kindler (yet!!) #edchatie



Some night time reading http://t.co/qv1AMnaT #edchatie



@MoloneyKing @topgold #edchatie Can't say I've had that experience giving CPD in Scratch to teachers





























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#edchatie Ultimately, digital is transient. How many people will pull out 100 year old emails in the future?



RT @pamelaaobrien: Kids from #coderdojo have gone back and taught their teachers Scratch - win win in my view #edchatie



@pamelaaobrien @peter_lydon My daughter got her Yellow Belt@coderdojodrog last Sat. in Scratch <- proud moment! #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@pamelaaobrien @MissionVHQ #edchatie: problem solved, best of both worlds: http://t.co/aQGsEZuT



@MoloneyKing @conpower @topgold resistance to going 'off piste' - we've had that in #coderdojo - 'give me the sheet to work on' #edchatie



@fboss #edchatie Cool. My DS7 white belt beat a Red belt at Stickball on Sunday!!!



@MoloneyKing @perkypawn #EdChatie it is o course available, but not mainstream.Students want to beat themselves, boys def enjoy competition



@pamelaaobrien @MoloneyKing @topgold #edchatie Lol teachers are OBSESSED with handouts all right. God forbid giving things a go..



@pamelaaobrien @johnmayo @tbbrwn @markievicz_ They know lots about social networking, but can know little about ed. websites. #edchatie













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#edchatie #taap digital books/platform should have interactive content. GBL, interactive assessment, personal journal,.......



@fboss @peter_lydon @coderdojodrog live the type of learning that happens in #coderdojo - learn by trying things #edchatie



@MissionVHQ As much as I want the future of digital textbooks now, I still want a shelf of real books too #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@MissionVHQ remember than scene! Picard was a great captain but he needed to move with the times. What

we would do for a holodeck #edchatie

Reply Retweet Favorite MrEvessonENG 12 hours ago

yea James .. @MissionVHQ surly he uses both ! #edchatie


perkypawn 12 hours ago

#edchatie #taap ... and come with automatic membership of your local library which is a great repository of not just books but all digitent



In 'A New Culture of Learning' John Seely Brown said more than anything else kids are learning to learn from each other, digitally #edchatie



RT @fboss: @MissionVHQ As much as I want the future of digital textbooks now, I still want a shelf of real books too #edchatie



@mynameisdermot @johnmayo @tbbrwn @markievicz_ absolutely - big disconnect between the two #edchatie



@MrEvessonENG @MissionVHQ #edchatie I think not.. holodeck always broke leading to the crew having to act out the adventure or die.








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#edchatie You know you want one http://t.co/kSN48wh4



@fboss #edchatie Holographic interactivity



@conpower @moloneyking @topgold not to mention parents!! much more productive learning without them #edchatie


@fboss The 'Book' needs to go from digital textbook. #edchatie



@ConnollyTrevor @MoloneyKing is the system made by teacher in Enniscrone available to all teachers to make their own quiz ? #edchatie



@fboss @MissionVHQ Some books always deserve a place on a shelf! :)#edchatie



Really weak "recall" questions at the end of chapters #edchatie



@johnmayo #edchatie 'recall' is a vital ability. Only a bogie man because of exams



The Majesty of Nature with @martinagardiner #Inishowen #aurora 23/24 April#photography #astronomy http://t.co/u2OyBkvu #edchatie


subkiteu 12 hours ago

@peter_lydon It is weak recall questions that I have problem with #edchatie






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@pamelaaobrien #edchatie Kids love 'doing' things..more learning like this wouldn't go amiss



@johnmayo #edchatie Ah..yes...you want better recall questions! of course.



#edchatie Sad to say you could get an A in JC History without having to think about anything.. even once.



RT @conpower: #edchatie Sad to say you could get an A in JC History without having to think about anything.. even once. >> agreed



@conpower #edchatie yes...such a poor exam.



@fboss #edchatie Out of the book - WEIGHT - Into the book - user-generated-peer-reviewed content



@fboss Many static elements of books go and more collaborative knowledge building comes in. #edchatie



RT @conpower: @fboss "The 'Book' needs to go from digital textbook. " <- I like the thought of this. A new way of looking at it #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@conpower that's shocking #edchatie


@MissionVHQ Also Thomas & Brown say that tacit knowledge is king in this century. #edchatie


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#edchatie http://t.co/I712swwo enjoy :-)



@conpower @topgold Don't think the teachers like me..I answer their questions with more questions. We need troubleshooting skills. #edchatie



Go: printed questions at the end of sections. Arrive: Blank slate for pupils to make their own q. for each other. Realistic. #edchatie



@mynameisdermot @fboss I've taken to de-cluttering lately and dumped a load of old 'dead trees'. Nostalgia-free zone ;-) #edchatie


RT @MaryAnnReilly: @MissionVHQ Also Thomas & Brown say that tacit knowledge is king in this century. #edchatie



@MoloneyKing @conpower @topgold Why wouldn't teachers like that - it's turning their trick back on them :-) #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@pamelaaobrien @conpower @topgold Like...programming isn't about getting code to work but understanding the code, listening 2 it! #edchatie



CHALLENGE: Mention 1 thing that should go from textbooks & 1 thing that should appear in the future versions #edchatie


fboss 12 hours ago

@MoloneyKing #edchatie Homework to kids today - prize for kid who writes down the most questions about...




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@fboss Thanks for #edchatie.



RT @fboss: CHALLENGE: Mention 1 thing that should go from textbooks & 1 thing that should appear in the future versions #edchatie


corriekelly 12 hours ago

RT @rherron: #edchatie Next Friday week in #DWEC 9.00 - 1.00 -> Connect Education Conference with Dr Chris Horn et al: http://t.co/GTlNj2ve


fboss 12 hours ago

@MoloneyKing @conpower @topgold that and for kids it's about - this is what I want to do how do I go about it #edchatie


#edchatie Knowledge is knowledge. Are we just looking for clever ways to deliver it?



@corriekelly #edchatie Nah...better to teach them how to find the right links themselves.



@MoloneyKing @conpower @topgold had kid 2 wks ago who created new costume with just tiny dot to get character to disappear #edchatie



@fboss thanks for the #edchatie. Was looking for this for a while and it didn't disappoint.



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Reply Retweet Favorite dalkeybusinessg 12 hours ago

RT @clontuskertns: Learning about the #Olympics in #Clontuskerthttp://t.co/oEeeAgci #edchatie


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#edchatie thanks @fboss I'm off now for some real life 3 dimensional interaction!!!!



@fboss one thing that should go? Pages. Seriously. #edchatie



@MoloneyKing @conpower @topgold loved seeing that approach because it just made sense to her - that's what #coderdojo about for me #edchatie



#EdChatie great topic tonight, thanks to all esp @fboss transcript available tomorrow? A few links I'd like to get back to.



@pamelaaobrien @MoloneyKing #edchatie Amazing how much code kids will put together to solve a problem. Helps them appreciate neat solutions



RT @conpower: #edchatie Augmented Reality. Love to have a group of kids point their phones around Lough Gur and see stone age people at work!


lismiss 12 hours ago

@conpower @moloneyking absolutely - this kid was 7 and she blew me away with her approach #edchatie



@pamelaaobrien @conpower @topgold Next time I teach #Scratchprogramming there will be NO SHEETS or BOOKS allowed!! #edchatie



thanks @fboss great topic - enjoyed #edchatie



@MoloneyKing @conpower @topgold only way to go IMHO - we've tried both approaches and I would say better learning without sheets #edchatie





























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Great chatting with the #EdChatIe lot. Much kudos to @fboss for another great topic. Looking forward to seeing you all at @ICTedu



Thanks all for interesting #edchatie as always :-)



#edchatie Thanks to Fred et al. for a great edchat. Now go get working on those open source eBooks for next week...



bookmarked SANpad #edchatie: http://t.co/UVYS9gev



@MrEvessonENG It definitely didn't. Generated a lit of great contributions on#edchatie tonight


fboss 11 hours ago

RT @topgold: bookmarked SANpad #edchatie: http://t.co/UVYS9gev


fboss 11 hours ago

RT @peter_lydon: #edchatie Knowledge is knowledge. Are we just looking for clever ways to deliver it?


GrumpyMarmoset 11 hours ago

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SeasSuasNet 10 hours ago

“@NL_84: Interested in Irish school blogs? Go follow @SeasSuasNet #edchatie#classblogs” >> great idea - well done @NL_84 @simonmlewis


@johnmayo I don't think teachers need to understand the inner workings of tech, just be able to use it to tech. #edchatie


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hassandabbagh 10 hours ago

@fboss #edchatie I think digital text books are an anachronism already. The methodologies of consumption have evolved. Ask a 5 year old!


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