Fw 97-3

Administrative Record

FORTWINGATEDEPOTACTIVITY,GALLUP,NEWMEXICO

Document No. 97-3

Fort Wingate Depot Activity,

Restoration Advisoy Board (R4B) Meeting,

Februay 5,1997

Paul Baca Professional Court Reporters

February 1997

INQUIRIESREGARDINGTHISDOCUMENT AND/OR THE ADMINISTRATIVERECORD FORFORT WINGATE DEPOT ACTIVITYSHOULD BEMADE TO:

COMMANDER, TOOELE ARMY DEPOT,TOOELE,UTAH 84074

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FORT WINGATE DEPOT ACTIVITY

RESTORATION ADVISORY BOARD MZETING

I-TZL.D.AT’

OCTAVIA FELLIN PUBLIC LIBRARY

GALL3P , NEW MEXICO

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FESRUARY 5, 1997

6:00 i.M.

PRESENTATION FROlt

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PROCEEDING S

MR. FISHER: Gooa evenin~ 2V?YYZT.?. we

~ould like to welcome you here this ever~ir.g LO the rort

~ingate Depot Activicy ResCoraEion Advisory aoarcl r~:estlng

4y name is Larry Fisher, and ~(m chs ZRAC znvircrm~ncal

coordinator for Fort Wiagate, although I’m, locaccd at

ot in Utah.

Before we get started, what Z’d like EC do is to have

?verycne , if you wou:dn’c mind -- I hope nor -- I would

just like to go around and have everyone ir.trodoce

tliemselves and say who you reprsser.t, sc we know who the

players are. And I think we’ 11 feel more comfortable with

zhat, and we’ll just start right here.

MR. WHITMAN: C)kay . Good e’rening. My name

is Chris Whitman. I’m a geologist wizh the NSW ~e~lco

En>”ironment Department, and I’w. representing Che ‘2(ZT,6

member for the Environment Department

ME . WALDEN : Malcolm Walden. I’m the base

transition coordinator, the federal bzse czansicion

coordinator for Fort Wingate.

MS . AJEMIAN: I’rI Katrina Ajemia:l. ~’m

project m,anager for the Corp. cf ~n9~~~ers ar;i ’313 5rc1nr’;

ouz at Fort Kingate.

MR . EGNACZYK: Steven E2~aCZ>Ik. 1’?.?the

projecc mariager for ERM and depal”tme:lt geciagisr az [Y,?

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Fnvironmenccl ?enzez in Fort Wingate.

?4S. STELL: I’m Mary Jane Szeli. I’m the

sraject geologlst also working in EZM SE ;art Wingate.

MR ‘TOM; My nar.e is Vincent Tom.

MF.. FISHER: ‘Who do yz.a represellc? .JESE

yourself or .

MR. -rot.!, It’s a public meeting, right?

MR . FISHER: Yes, uh-huh.

klz. TOM, Yeah, uh-k.uh,

MS. AJEMIAN, Public .

MR . FISHER: Public . Okay, that’s fine.

Thznks

Ml?. CURLEY : I’m Gerald Curlsy with the

E)ureau of Inciizn Affairs, Navajo Area.

MR. MURPHY: Roy Murphy with the Bureau G?

Indian Affairs, Navajo.

MR. 3ARBER: Wilson Bar5er, BIA, ~~vajo.

!4s. JACC)BS : I’m Julie Jacobs with Clhe New

Mexico Environment Departmerlt and the Ground Water Q’,i?.1~i}

Bureau.

MR. SOLANO: I’m Phillip SoLafio wick, Lhe I?iw

Mexico Enviroriment Department.

MR . HENDRICKSON : I’m CP.uck Hendricks~n with

the EPA Region 6. I’m a geolcgist and clear!up team merrrber

for EPA.

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MR. MENAF’AN: ~uti Mena~an. I’m IUSt on my

)wn, by myself.

M?.. McCALISTER: SLan Mc<allscer. I’m with

he Fort Worth District COrp zf Engi2eers.

MR. ALEXANDER; Tim Alexander I’m w4r.tJ tile

Jrrr,yEr.vizonmental Cecter

MR. WINKLER: Joe wi~kler, Kew MEx~cO

?nvirGnr?.erlt Department , Gallup Field Office.

MR. HZRREN: I’m B05 He.rren. i’m jusz with

;he Cope Memorial Chapel.

MR. FISHER: we w~re jus~ going around and

incrotiucing ourselves, so would you mind -- I’m sorry, if

yzu’d introducs yourself.

MR. MILLER: Y2S. Good evening. My n?me iS

Pat Chee Miller, 317 Borcoc near Gallup.

MR. FISHER: Okay. Thank y~’~. Okcy our

~neetlng tonight will consist Of an overview of t~-e

~r~vlror.mental wozk being performe~l of caurse, 3: Fort

iiingate, acd our firs: presen~atlon IS CE ‘ZhS fir.di~gs cf

the invescigatioz lntO our oPen burni3g/aF?n detGllatioll

area.

And, a~so, WE’11 talk abaut the resul:s cc tk.?

evaluation Of what we call our TIJT WaShO’Ut i~gd~: S. AJS’,,

we “ha\-ea pres2nEer on the investigation L: :ne (::.::al

and western landfill. And the!? to foiiow’ up. we’i:

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have -- basicaily, we’ll discuss upccming activities.

Vary Jane Stell and Steve Egnaczyk will be doing most.

of the kriefing OF. this. They’re with ER!?, as they said,

and then the upc~mixg activities will be gres.znrec? by

Katrir,a, and then we’ll just kixd of go fncn theze. If

you have any questions, feel free to ask them as we go.

Steve.

MR. EGNACZYK: Thanks, Larry. Gooa evening

everyone . ‘What we’ve tried tb.is time is to pIuc some

overhead together for everyone to LZOK a: sizze it seems a

little difficult and a little unwieldly every time we corns

here with our maps and try to tape cr.em up to che wall,

and this and that, and try to point out Somle of the areas .

Ml? FISHER: I’m sorry. I forgot c,ne thing

as usual. lf you have any questions, lf yO~I would,

please, just tell us your name and then ask your qusstion

so it can be recorded. Sorry

MR . SGNACZYK : NO problem. ~~i~ ~:~ :J ~~~~

out of the way of everyane. But if someone earl’c see,

please let me know. I’ll be glad to shove to one side.

hlhat this is, is actually 3ust a siitie frc~ th5 later

presentatics.

But just co give you a locac~onal prospacti-ve of whe] e

che cpen b’urnir?g/open detonation ar?z is E= Fo=t WiT,3aZe

Depot, it’s Locaced along th? FZOF2ZLY bauzdarv c,:~L?,e

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testern porcicn 3f the installation, right i?. EFjis area

lere . ‘This is the RCRA permitted, open burni::q/c,pen

iet~nacion area that we’ve been performing et’al’dations ofi.

Just ~hi~ past summer, we implemented our fuel pro9r~m

in that area. we’ve reported to the RAP Commizte~ and to

zhe folks at the RAP meeting in the past aboac what our

objectives were for that investigation, but I’ll ~~s~

briefly summarize that.

Over ;hs cours2 of our investi~ation and preliminary

characterization activities in the 3B/OD area, a series of

~ebris and burial areas located along two arroyo

stretches, one running through the carrent o~lo~ area and

ace runcing through the closed OB/OD area, w?re

%dencified. we put toge:her a ~~osure field program, a

sec of wzrk plar,s thct were SU3KliZt?d to the SCate Of !f?w

Mexico as part Gf the RCRA closure and as part Of the

approved RCRA interir. status c~csurS plans far that area

to go in and investigate those debris and burial si~e

areas.

The reascn for the extensi~ve planning is kecs~se of

the unexploded crdinance that is located in ~hat ‘sea ‘i)3t

present scmswhat of a safety cGncsrn in dcin3 OLr

ir.vestigation work, so We just wantsa tc w.ak? sul-e W* ~-~d

ourselves set. up ~orrec~ly and that C]le pians al?c :111 lhE’

~lcrk Fla.ns wer? to everyone’s satlsfa~=ion ~~f~>~~ ‘:;?

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implemented cur acclivities in zhose ar~as.

Mzny of yau v.ay or may not have bsen ,UF :r.zc t:-.at

area, so we have a few overhead shots that will ~i~-e you a

little bit of a prospective of what welre deaiing wi~!] i~

this area. Let me just kind of superimpose these two on

top here,

Wkar you’re gsing to se? now is che closed area, which

basicaliy jug handles off this sicie aad off t~waras the

property boundsry. And whst you’re looking a: right now

is basicaily zhat portion of the closed OB/OD area,

looking t~wards the property boundary, which would be off

to your right-hand side of this overhead slide.

What we have rucning throush this area, znd EctuaLly

running rhrough both the current and closed C)S/CII sr?;-.s,

is an arroyo or basically a drainags area running through

both the areas. This area, right h+re, yau car. s~e :he

~engc~ of trees that run down zhrou~h th? al-royo ar~a .

What we had were access roads tnat rail alc)ng Do:> sid?s of

the arroyc area. And, basically, demolition a~;d

detonation activities had occurred grior to areur.d txe

1950 time fzame in this area, which is why i:’s kip,d Of

referred to 6s the “closed area. “

Zn doing our site walk-throughs t;hro’.ighthis ~,rea, a

number af ae3ris pile and burial si~es we:? Lccz[efi sl~n~

the arroyo face. We also had some geophysi~~i lr.ior~,zl;l{)n

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!rom some of our earlier investigations that ider.tified

:ertain anomalies under Ehe surface that we were EO

investigate ~hro~gh our tre>ching azti~’ities. Th?

scope of doin~ our field actix-izy was basically to, number

>ne, go in and bcunaer any areas of wzsce debris, cheri t:)

50 sampling of that waste debris, and then of the

underlying soils underneath che wasts debris to see if

there had been any impact of the underlying sails ifi EF.e

environment based on those past acti~”ities.

So what you see there represe~tsa in this :i~xre are

basically the transects of trenches that were installed

:P,roaghout this srea and then back-fil:ed during the

uourse of our investigation. So this is actually the

closes OB/3D &rea, after we had gor,~ through our

trenching, :hrough all of the tiebris pile ax< burial site

areas.

Xhat z 1; have are some figtil-es later ox that acttial~’:

show you wh?re we did do the excax’a:ion tre~cti-es axd our

approximated boundary of delineated waste ma~ wc are

currentiy working on at this Point In time.

BUC just so you can see, this Is a lit~~e bit <f a

visual prospective of one angle Of ~he c~~se~ a;caI alld

then tr.ers <s ar.5ther leg of tLe arrGyc SYSC2T zl--ackind

Cf bentis o“<t the area YOU were j’dst loek~r.g at, c~)me~ ~11

from ever E>lis way, and then this area k~rLd >5 t~kes a

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left turn to the south and zher. goes along Lhe prcperty

boundary.

You can see zhs arroyo area U? i> P,sre. 1: Cc-l?.l?:cs

into the arrcyo stretch chzt I hacl shown >Fou in tt.e

previous figure. in tl~is ar~a, we also ha~ several debris

pile and burial sites there tha~ had beer? identified

during some of our initial charac~erizat~ .On aczi~”ities

that we investigated through our :rzr-iching pxGgram.

Let me give you a quick visual pros?eccive cf :he

current area. What you’re looking at right now is zlong

the western portion of the current OB/OD area ~hzt was the

actual RCRA permitted OB/OD operation at Forz Wirgate.

It’s almost along the western partion of the prcperry

bouiidary and looking to the east down incz cns accual

valley zrea that encompassed the ctirrerit C)B,’2P alsa.

.~lOng this area here, if I can get my pen to gO in the

right spot, you ca> see the length of th? arroyo rl.~nning

thr~ugh this area and curving ~hr~ugh zhis lacaticn.

In this area, we had ident.if>ed a xtim~,sr 33 c“.stjris

pile and burial sites also during o.Jr lnlc~al

characterization activities, and we Gnce z~ai~ E:ann<ti L,I;.

a LrenChln~ excavation program co creach ck.r~zgk :J:OSe

areas EO cor.firm the waste materials that w?r? depcsited

LherS, then also to sample an~ a~aly~e th~~e waste

c3nst:cusnts, as well as the uriderly:ng s:i:s.

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In doing E!?LS, we ZLSS dellneateci the bz%undary of

)otencial sensitive habitat ana wetlanti areas, ar.d in

~oo~d~nacion wicn :ne Corp cf Efi5inzers In Aib’.qL?rq’2~,

confirmed the boundary of some of those wetland z.reas arid

ninimized our impact to Eho’Se and in the zouzse of Jur

3.ctivities. S3 what yoa had there, then, was basically a.

series of trenzhes that were aone in LO the arroYo face and

through some of the upper areas ts actualiY confirm “hat

the boundaries OE waste materials wsrs.

what ws have now are some photos to kind O: ~lv? YDU a

representation of what we were uncovering and just sOme of

~h~ excavation activities in bsth the currenc anti closed

3rea

AS you can see here, we are trenching through. Well,

we basically Pad two categories of areas i~ the current

OB/OD area, areas tfiat looked to be small, little va17,e}S

or cut-outs, if it had waste disposed o~’er the time of

operation of the area. This area star~ed beixg used

around :he 1955 time frame, was used UP u~~i~ ~he ~l~se 2f

the installation in 1992.

So a lot of areas were basically small cu:s or small

cu~backs off the main arroyo that had Deen back-ii~i?i

wi:h wasze debris from the 091C3 oFeEaLior:s sz fron

operaciofis on tne installation.

so what we dc in mcst cases is actua~ly Cr;- to

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been set off Lhat might have been motion detec:ion f%uSeS

~r fuses that were just pressure se~siciv~ or somethiriq

like that. At any point in time that yoc see an crdinance

item -- and I’m not sure if we hz-~e any of our VX3 experts

here, I don’t think so, so ~’11 cry LO s~eak o:l the

subject.

But in some sases, there will be pieces of a fUS5 Or

pieces of the ordinance item that still remains intact as

you approach that item. For our safety rsasans, when you

see something like that, you take Lhe most czxservative

approach, which is there may, in fact, be ena’~gh of that

ordinance item left there to actually detcnate or. its OWZ.

So what we call that is a blow-in-piace item.

There are several categories af those Items. Ons,

from a live ord<nance standpoir.t woald be a blow-in-piace

item where you would actually back away from that and put

some explosives near that item and then rem~~ely detonate

it, and then the remaining oraicance items -+;~~ld re~.ave in

sta~e.

What we see in most cases are remnants, shell

fragments, metal fragments associated with :he src~nacce

item. They’re safs to be moved. In chose cases, we wG’lld

then pick those items up and scockp:le them, anti those &’e

same sf the act~vities that were done In ccc)rd. ‘.~t.cn

with the FDrt Worth district’s cor~trsztsz :“.,C,-~.~~~ ~~~

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so in oth=r words, there were, in fact, siz~ations

ihere Lhere were items that were ssnsitive t~ -- YOU kno~’,

:0 any contacc. BUt theye weren’t any burial Skells, fcr

sxample, that hadn’z ever been deto?ared or tr?ated ir.

;ome way, shape cr from by the OB/OD operations.

Zveryching out there was pretty’ much a remnant or a

:esidue off those operations.

Here, you can see an excavat~on of another trench

:hrough one of the areas. What we have is a ciesignation

for the current SB/OD area crap areas or debris areas. So

those are just our designations, because we went t!-,raugh

and identified each of chose locations alon9 the length of

the arroyo, so we can come back and map them correctiy.

And in this case, it depicts some burn resiciue, some of

the druns and other debris that were in that location.

In most cases, we were successful in actually

trenching zhrough the areas G>.e of our cor.ce:-rs ~?s

because of the manner of disposition within L!>5 ZTr3y0,

materials could have been dumped at one l~catiol? and

bulldozed along the length of the arroYo fa~e, c1Eatin9

quite a deep extent,.

of contamination or :-eslcue

~lateria~s . We dian’t find that. We reaily were able to

excavace r’nrough in almost all cases ~he aisPosec

materials s3 tk.ac we could actua~ly bounder that both by

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depth and then Gn a lateral exce:~:.

Here, yau can see one of the arroyo faces znzt I was

msncio~ing to yoIu before and our exca-.~ator siccir.g on top

Df the -- actually, the wall or tine face, ths base of the-.

canyon, valley, and then diggi~g sown inzc the arroyo faCe

itself. The materials you see a;l along ;.he face ars the

texture materials that had been placed dcwn in tke arroyo

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Here, once again, just anather depiccion. You can se?

the excavator sitting on top ~f che arroyo bank and then

the materials that are being uncovered as we go ciown

through. In all cases what we would do is tak? samples

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exac:ly what the waste constituents may or may not be, and

then we’d always excavate the clean soil and t.ler.sample

below those waste materials into the clean soils to

provice some kind of an assessment of po~efit.ial impact to

the underlying soiis from those waste materisls.

And what we have here is just another trench c+;i3 then

just another depiction of a trench excavated through Dnz

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layering through the soil material of diffeuent waste cr

materials tha~ had been disposed, axd thsr b3sizsLly ~oi~

hati been moved around in the whole area as pazz of tu+

03/09 operations.

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In a lot of cases, me:al banding and things like tha~

fere unto-~ered. And ck,en sGme uemnafits c: the d.mc,ii~ion

~nd det~nation o~erations

Now, coming back to a prospective cf the cifferent

3rezs, here we have the cur;ent 03/OD fires. If you

remember , ante again -- 1 realize we just gal’e you a fsst

showirig of ~hose firs: pictures -- 5CL baSICallY, once

sgain, here is ths southsrn por~i~n of the 0~/OC ~rea

looking to the north. The arr~yc itself is sk.owr. by this

little line gcing through the DB/OD area.

And wh?.~ you can see here are the ar?as th~c we

actua:ly did trench tnrough, the defined wasts areas and

the zrea of the 5aundary af zhe waste materials &s we have

currently projected iL -seal on our ini~ial

characterizatiorl activities.

We’re currently awaiting the analytical res~l~s to

come thrcugh, so we can more accura~sly determine ths

boundaries of these waste areas and poter:tial

correspondence ES any action ~~v~~s t~-at ~i~h~ bc

applicable to our closure scenar>~s.

And then w? havs the same GverL-iew for tk.e closed

arsa . YOE can see the length cf Lh? arroyo itself tfiat

runs along ~his s:retch right p,~re and a dsbris ~il~ ar.d

b~ria~ SiE~s that we &iti e:<CavaLe Lh-ICL~:I a~~ ~’ul

delineated wasts boundaries.

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I would say in summary, the curzezz ZZ,3E area did

have delineated or defined wasts arszs that ws were aDle

to dig chr~ugh and uncover. aur we feel, as far as the

closure options and what we’vs represer,ted t~ :h? RAP in

the past is that we’ re looklng at two cifferenz cptions,

excavation and removal of chose areas iEzc &n on-site

~and.based unit and then some type of an is-place closure

far areas that are just not feasible for removal, ei,:her

from a safety standpoint or just a material stan~point.

So that is still consistent wi~h the opt;cns we’re looking

at now, some type of an in-place closure &nd/or exca.ration

~n~ rer,oval to an en-site land-based ~ni~.

The areas that we’ve delineated hsre, tkL~n, we would

actually do projections on and then in coorciinatian with

Ehe design phase with the Fort Worrh district actua~ly

come up with a ciesigr. f~r ths closure opzior for

submission to th.s regulatory agsaciss.

?4S. JACOBS: I havs a q’zes~i~c.

MR . EGNACZYK: Sure.

MS . JACOBS : This is J’ulie Ja?zbs. SC lf

you close it in place, are the contaminants [.:Is=sre cnere

going to actually degrade over E:me?

?4R EGNACZYK: .--, eXPIOSi’JeS hy~=,-

th?mseives hzve some r.a~ural de~rzaacic~. ir. zr~T.. i guess

maybe I shculd clarify what CIOSUre LZ PIL.C5 ~.czT.s vers~s

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3xcavat ion . For example, we have in che current zreat

EOCUS areas where we were abl? EO azzually shzw tha~ t~.ere

~as just a small area, a sma~~ depression in the s-~rface

that was backfilled over time. ThaE whole a.rza quite

easily CGU12 be e-xzavated axd remov~d into a lane-based

Enit.

Arsas iike t~is where we havs a vsry :az~s

conceilCration 35 materials by depth, there’s a Celtain

?~inz ix time whzre YDIJ actually gec “JerY aestr~c!-lve

almost to the zrroyo, almost tc ths sense cf destroying

the arroyo.

Sc I chink at that point in time it would be a balance

based on the action levels that are zgree~ upon in the

closure plan, a balance to actuaily removin9 those

materials, principally the trash, the ~ebris ~nd t:’e stuff

:hat might impacz that slope afid ~he stabilization of the

slope, and then d-o some Stabilization in Pla:e tc actual~Y

maintzin ths fat? of ths arroyc and che w~tsr ch=nnel

we also have z we:land arsa dOWII through t~erel sa it

becomes a baiance and then preserving the na:~~al

resources of the arroyo itself vers”Js actually usstx~yin~

it as part of the closure opsra:ion. So I :1-.ink L!lar’s

something that would be a balancing faCt Or ~h~~ We would

then do in aur recommentiation of the closure option.

so ~he only time we’d real:y leak at keeping znyth-ng

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in place is :5 rhcs~ soils act~zlly wsre !3E13w a?. action

level that were a~reed ‘upon in the closure plan or were

just so inaccessible because af ortiinance i~ems o:’ orhsr

it- that we had found that wsre just too pra!-.ik.if-ive

safety-wise to actually go ;n and do any res~ocation of

that area.

Just to add that, ~hat is actually what we found a

little bit LO the north here in some of tkiese areas, is

there was a very high concentration of unexploded.

ordinance and just safe~y issues, ths “ifs” that I wsre

talking about before, that in going into thst area and

actually excavati~g into the face of that, there ~Lay be a

point in t~me that safety concerns really overriae the

feasibility of removing that material.

At that poin~ in time, then, we would implement any

measures to stabilize that slope and minimize &nI-

migration of contaminants inc~ those water P5’JFS or to al~y

potential surface water runoff.

MR . WALDZN : QuestLon. Maicolm Waldel].

Steve, who is the final arbiter, or who 1s che ?~?.al

approver of the plan? Is it Lhe State C: New !4e>:ico, or

is it --

MR. EGNACZYK: The State af N2w !Jexico,

MR. WALDEN: They’ re Ehe ones wh,> Wcu]d

actually say, “yes, this is gccd to go?”

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klR. EGNACZYK : Yes. I tier.’t wanz to speak

Eor them, but yes.

Arc, once again, <r, ?.he clcsed area, j~~st co give a

little bit more clarification, it appears that mcst OS the

Activities in this area were all along this Dne roa~waY

and that they would then shove the residue into the face

of the arroy~. The closed OB;GD area does voz have Elle

~x.tent of waste and debris anywhere near t’n~ cur~-e~.t OBIOD

~rea, and those areas -- as you car. See bY h~”~ t?-e

boundaries have been delineated, we feel that chose ar~a~

zaE very easily be excavated and removed, and because Of

the different xacure between the two arrayost zhl~ beln9 a

very steeply w?illed arroyo channel, we think tk,at chat

could be stabilized very easily by bel~c~.ing that back a

little bit. And we zhink that tha:’s something t~’at Cou;d

be restored a lot easier than the wali cf tb.e arroyo in

the c~rrent OB/OE area.

MR. BARBER: I have a q’~eszioc.

MR . EGNACZYK: Yes, S<r.

MR. BARBER: Wilson Barber. How mzny burtial

sites did YOU findt and kow ar~ !-’ou‘rsaLiEg ‘ncse? AL e

yDU ;ezving tkiem in place? I~r, sure yctl’ r~ ~iSCLi”k,i’1~

some when you did some e>:cavation

MR . EGNACZYK: BY “b~~ia~ s~~fist ~re ye’-’

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MR. BARBER: Is that what yoa m~an by burial

sites C? debris?

MR. EGNACZYK: Right...

MR. BARBER: Net human remaiys?

MR. EGNACZYK: Archeologic sites w?re not

~irecziy encountered in the activities thaz we were doing

thrOUGh this zrea.

As part ~f the memorandum cf agreement between ~he

Army and the related parties, we had an an-site

archeologist that did look at any areas where the!: had

previously been undisturbed soil arsas.

For example, this area had been disturbed cc such zxi

exzent because of the OB/OD operations over the cim,e, tn;it

we hsd an archeologist look at the location <n

coordination with the Albuquerque disLricE. A];d they

didn’t feel zhat an oversight, direct oversighz, \ias

needed in tb.is zirea.

SGwever, in zne later presentation i wil~ be ~ivinq

where we were digging into actual zative soils ar.d

aCL’Lally areas c.nat had nat been impacted In che past , we

did have an on-site archeologist monizor GLr excE\~atian

acc~vitiss,

In the course of doing all of our activities, zhcy G.d

o~-erview our activities in Coorai.nazicr, wiz:l C2S Surt,ev:llq.

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hat we wereil’ t tiirzccly lmpacclng ar.y area or ar.y findin9

hat had been identified to dare.,.

MR. BARBER: Okay. When yGu use3 the term

burial site, “ I tho’~ght You were talking h’~man burial,

3U know, r~~,ai~s.

MR. EGNACZYK: Human remains buriai areaq

MR. BARBER: Yes.

MR. EGNACZYK: Right we aid no= Lncover

~ny of that. There have been areas within tne OB/GLl area

:hat hsve been identified in the past, but they weren’t

impacted by any sf the activities Chat we were cLrrentlY

~orking in.

MR. WALDZN: AS yOU ‘re using chs :erm

“burial, “ that means debris?

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quesricns?

che project

on it sine?

MR. EGNACZYK: Debris, yes, chac’ s correct

chat answer your questi~n?

MR. BARBZR: Yes

MR. EGNACZYK: c~n I azswer axy ctfler

Thank you very much.

MS. STELL: Okay I’m, MaYy JZne S:ell. I ‘m

geolcgisc for this projecz. IJve bezn warkirg

we st~rced this job in 1$92. ;:q~ :hj:-:g ~,,,.,

here to talk you abcut tonight is the work that we’ve been

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doing at the TNT leaching be5s.

Just to givs you a little kic of prospec. ti,Je, based

upon ti-.e facil icy this boundary up nere ~S 1--;0, The

admi~istration area is righr alon~ in hers, tke main

offices, and tnen the TNT leachir.g bed was;?out facility is

right down in this area. SO just to givs you some kind of

prospective of the area of ths fa.ciiity h,e’rz going to be

talking about.

Initially, tr.is -- for those of you who nay rot be

familiar with ths TNT washout operations, it would impact

out of spec muni:ions, take out the soivenc explosives to

the extent possible, take a hot water wash syscemt rinse

out chat to reclaim any TNT possible. That fluii would

then go chrougk. some -processing tanks intc a s?r~es of

settling basins sxcezior to ~he building ar?d tier wocld

overflow from tb.at location in:o z trorh and ther. G~ into

a series of evap9raEion ana infiltration laga>r.s,

We’ ~~e done a lot sf soil samglixg OLZ ;kere ir. :his

area . This heir.g the actual washout Duilciir:g itself You

czn see there’s two little reccanglss here. Those would

have been the concrete sumps, and they said they’d go illt,)

that Zirsc to settle out anything additi~na:i> .

Then Lhere would be a troth leatiinq o.: i:.:c -.

init~aliy, :;--issrea 3ver here was calisd Ch:: ~>re-I$z2

beds That’s what was used in that time per~~~ foz c]l~~

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evaporation infiltration of t’nese was.lsut xz~?~~. -L.::d

then after i962, they developea these cwo lc,caziorfs ~~er

here The waters would flow O“JC in’co LhDs? 255s.

so we knew tha~ being -- based ‘Jpan Ek:is o?eraciclir

this was a potential source: of soil a~.d gzouatiwa~er

contamination. And as part of the re!ned~ai ir,’restiqation

feasibility study, we went out LO look at tt,ls as -- ycu

k?low, what are the soil concen~ratii):is, what m.lght be 1

moving along this little drainage way o’~er in here, and

then chat is lsd co what could pccen~iz.ll)r b+ in zhe

grouridwater . So this map is kind of a compilation of all

the sampling thaL has been done ovez tine.

There were some old wells put in in the ~9@l t~n~

frame Unfortunately, three of them were :lot installed

deeply e~ough cha~ they did noc detszc anY zroun~~’at~r”

This FW-10 did, and it has been monitored periodically for

a nurcLber of years.

what we did is we came in and we looked az t~.ese s~il.

-- surface soil sampling locaticnst ~hlcfi are ‘he ‘o~-ld’

reti dots. We also ins~alled, a.s you C31: see, r.umero~s

subsurface sc?i: korizgs, which we sampled at i:; Gvery

five-foot inzerval to try and get same ici.saw$zh

vertically what c’ne soil cGntar,ination WOC15 b= wl:h

depth..,~Xd ~h~n just ~ece~~ly, this summer, =.S ~=:”i ~: ~1~:

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effort, we’ve gone in and instal:ed a background well here

thinking that any groxnd~7scer is pr.~bably flzwing

generaliy towzrd Che Puerto Rib-sr. So we assumed cha:

this would prabalcly be a background concentraciont

ur.impacted area, so we have some point of comparison as to

what the concentrations in the other wells may mean.

And then we iristalled three downgrading wells, ?’MW-02,

03 and 04 to try and get some idea of has tce gro~.ndwater

been impacted at all and to try and get a prospective on

whst way the grour,dwatsr in this immediate vicinity may be

moving .

And at this point, we nave go~ some arialycicai data

bzck, and i: is -- at this stage, it is draft analytical

data. And what cnat means is Enere are a ssriss of both

EPA, Army proceaurss that need to be dane oz the data to

make it qualified.

We looked at were there any possisiiiLies Lhat the

sampling protoccl had been impacted that ws ;OEIC kav?

cross-contaminated between locations, dld ZF)S !aLaratory

nave something that nay have potentially im~aczei. ?>?

results of this sample? So that chscking has ;ret to be

dGne , and Lhat’s the only r~aso~ we call Ek.ls ds IEIS

draft data. ws have yet to go zhrough a let G: :hose

procsssss.

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It this point, we hav? -- Lhe prac~~s ~e ha”~e ~J1

evaluating zhe data is, as i said, we’’.,e installed a

background weli We compared che dzwn ~ra~ienc locations

co thar ta say, “~kay, assuming our Dsckgrouad well is

good, unimpacced, naw what have we 5Dfie tc the wzter bY

the facilicy Gpsratians?” And zhat is what we’re seel.r.g

hers ic TMN-23 -- 02, 03 and 04( th~rE arE e~P~oslves

ietected in thase down-gradien~ wells.

And in ~’~r procsss, the first step after :Y-e

comparison to tiac’KgrOUnd is then we comPare it to a ‘cries

of regulatory leve~sr maximum ~ontaminan~ levels ‘ro’n

Fedsral Government, from the State. Ana the~ ?or ~hasc

constituents that they are not available, we lcok at

potential human health risk-based numbers, and we look at

what are thase as far as a screecing level -- an ac:ion

level. DO we need to look at more ev~luat:an? >.nd th~:

has Lees exzee~eti at these sites also.

The next thing that we’ve dOne .s IUSZ LO give you,

again, a little blt more of a ‘prospecc~ve nere. 1P. che

northern portion of the facilitYr We cid excsed Lc:h tk.e

background levels and ~hese h.~man health Las?d-risk >.e”.’~~~

at all of those three wells.

So whaK we are currently doin~ is loakl:”ig .3:, agair,

what aireczion do we Ehink the g~ou!ldwa~a~ may “be mcvin~q

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in? And based upon these four wells a.na a preliclinary

look at the data, it looks like it’s generally flowi z in

the direction we’d expect, generally cowar(i the rc=tn fo.”k

Df the Puezco, but, you know, I cau~ion ycu agair~. That

is a great distance between”’this location and Ctle locati.>n

of that river considerably to the n~rth of nsre.

Right now we ar? currently evaluating -- one of the

things we were talking about tk,s regulators Coaa>’ is,

what’s the next step? How can we praceed to e’~ali]ate Znis

area further? And hopefully W5’ :1 ~~ ready co talk about

that the next time we get together. Yes.

MR . WINKLER: Joe Winkl?r. what w~’re

seei~g here is stuff washed -- they would remo’~e the big

chunk of the explosive and then wasn out the insids of the

container?

MS. STELL: Righz . Ri9ht. -Th3r’ s lny

‘understanding of the procedure, that is COTTSCY.

MS EGNACZYK: Right. And what yau have ta

uncierstzr.d &iso is, is there is a mu~icipls-sza!?e process

to try co recapture the explosi~’es, because, I mea>, they

would obtain a~.y recycle or reus? agaic. s:> ::-lezF’s

actually a cnree-or a four-stage almost sertling process

that woulci be undertaken before any water w~tild actually

get through :hese lsacnizg beds.

Ml?. WIhlKLER: Okay. So :he:r g~sl ‘~as to

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MR EGNACZYK : And retise che e.splosi~-es,

ctualiy, in tk,is.

MR. WINKLER: ELV2R what’ s washel O*G.C, ma}”be

hey cG’Jld get it out of that?

MR. EGNACZYK: Exactly.

MS. STELL: RighZ And chat was tk.e series

)f settling tanks. They tried to gzc everyr~.~~q to kind

)f precipitate out that they possibly could before t5eY

.ec this water out into these lagoons.

MR. WALDEN: Malcolm Walden. xow deep is

;he groundwater zhat you found this cor.tar.inatior. in? how

far aown?

MS. STELiI: Approximately 50 feet below the

gr~und surface.

MR. WALDEN: And all three vJells had similar

reaaings?

MS S’TELL: Simi:ar resdings.

!?R. WALDEN: So it seems to be flowing

generzlly the same?

MS . STELL : It dC5S. The sedimer.zs lE tt:s

area are a very irre9ular mix of silts anti Cizy=T.lis t.s

sort of a -- ktnd of an alluvial w~sh area. TkingS would

kLave kirid c? xasned on off the h~ghland.~~ ~:,~ ~.cJ~--

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this same type of materiai. This is mc.re of a ccmplsx

innerfingering of materials.

MR. WALDEN: And Y-OU s.aiticha~ it excesded

both human health le,~els and -- by how m,~ch? G:”eatly? A‘,

little bit 01. ..

?lS. ST.ZLL: The easiest number that I

remember off the top of my hsad :s ctis curr~nc erinking

advisory wat~z- number for RDX LS 2. And c’ur highest

concentration for RUX here was 160. Now, again, this is

pazts per billion concentration. They’ re ver;y iow

concentrations, but , yet, we c~d exzeed by a considerable

amour.t Okay .

V.R. 2GNACZYK : Wp,at I’d li”Ke t.c speak co :+OL

about now is an investigation program that was actually

implemented almost exactly this time frame las~ year,

basically, the investigation of debris pile and burial

sites, And by “burial sites, “ again, I mean waste b’~rial

sites here in the northern porcian of the instailacian.

There were actually thrss azeas tnat we w?re asked t.o

investigacs. Ths background o? thes? &reas as ~-e’vs

resresenzed to the RAP in tk.e F&st is, iIl the cc~rse of

daing our init; a; envirsnmencal :n~”eszi~atic)~. zc~iv-r.iec

two additional landfilling areas that we des-~:zzz-+(., t‘ris

western and central landfill areas, we~e ideii:ified

through us ~s arsas ~hac might ha-~e been utilizec ei~.k.:~

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it the clcse cf the installation. or d’.lring =he clcsin9

~oments of che installation far the placemlenc of municipal

:rash, debris and ar,ythi~g associats~ wi~h the final

:losure of the installation.,.

we also had the Group c disposai area, WGiCh ~~d b~<n

identified during our early i~vesciga~ion effort~, and tile

State of New Mexico identified potential compliar.ce issues

related to Dcr stirface water regulations with ha%-ing trash

and debris located on a water course or o?~e of tPLe arroyos

j.n the area of the Group C disposal area.

Sc we investigated a program to, number or?e, go in and

>onZirm whether or not was~e had actually been disposed in

~oth the areas tnat were designated as the w~sxera and

zentral iandfiil area, but then also to do an ~xceat of

potential trash r.igration or lGcation wizhin the Group c

disposal area, sa that could be recommended 5.?: removal

and iri compliance Wit;? the State Of Llew P4EY.iC2’ S s.lrface

water regulations.

So basically this was also used as alntost a Zr:al

perioci with our excavation C?ar, and w5th cur ‘dY.Oov?rsig;lr

contractor for the work that I presented co jfcd earlier in

the presen~ation in the DE/OD zrezs. Ths Co,lcerx: heue wds

that ws had a very safe area. Ke hzd a zsisci’!e --

rea:ly, a relati>-e lack of any cancern frc~. a ~~~~L

sta~dpcint. Ws zhoughZ that this wgulc give us E trial

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run, really, from. any investigatl~n activities w~’a be

doing later in the CB/OD areas.

!4S. JACOi3S, What’s UXO?

XX. EGNACZYK, lJnexplodeci ordir.ante.

MS. JACOBS, ~hac’ s G31CZ?

MR. EGNACZYK: Open bQrning/op2n detonation.

MS. 2AC3BS: Tnznk you.

MR. EGNACZYK: Sure . Are there any other of

those words ~hat I’Ve beex? using that I can answer for

anyone ? I apologize. Sometimes you get used co chess.

The Group C disposal area consists of really zwo

locations And wk.ac’s missing here in this figure is the

arroyo system that runs through this area, but basically,

there is ane location -- I think I’ve talked in -- there

we are. There’s oxe very smal: location ttia:’s ki~d of Ln

a cutback to the arroyo itself, almasz a iictle “V” in the

chan:iel to rhe arroyo. And ther? ther?’ s a.not;r.?z?Lea, a

larger area, that’s located real~y alcng en SZ’LOYO side

wall .

So as you can see here, we really impien$L2r;Lec a

program thar was very consistence to wkat I repcrtec ~o YOII

a listle earlier where we excavat?d t’nro~gh :kese

locations, ccnfirmed tk.e boundcriss of the ‘&z.sce ?reas.

Ana in this case, our whole focus heYe Is, ~~ zc &cL.)ally

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naterial can be removed and placed in the on-sire

Land-based ,~ni~ and removed frcm zhs zrro},o wazer courss.

Jus: to give you an example of some of che irlforrati~n

:hat we’re currently digesting oursel’>es is, in all cases,

tihac we’ve cries to do is a~~ost do a cross-section of

materials that were located in some Of these are~s.

AS you czn see hsren this is a cross-se~tion of a

trench thar we tic chro’agh tne areas 30 LhZK y~~ earl ~~e

that we ac:ually come out of waste nazerial to native

soils cn bath sides and also by

a~sO tried to quantify nOt Only

located down in there, but then

depth, arid that when we

the materials ch?.t were

also where we cock u~r

samples so thaz we come back and compile this infcr~at~on~

compile this data, from almcst a three dimensional

prospective, ws ~a.n really se? what’ s there and b-hat we

need to pull out of the locatlcn.

The central landfill area is actually an old arroyo

systsr, tp.at had been backfiil?c and CIOSeO Gf? ~:

act.daily i~tersects ac tnis locazion down in afi zrroya

that runs -- bearings here -- alon9 this s~r~~ch !lere.

This is a current arroyo -- oh, tkzt’s a roadwzy, scrry.

The current arroyo is down here. It ir.~ersects down

at this location. And, basically, Ehe wascs ~1~t~~i21i was

placed w’ithin this arzoYo, ba~kflli~~, ar’d ai~.~s~

backfilled just liKe a re9u~ar lan~flll a~ea.

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This is anather area that we were fairly certs~n that

they had done some landfilling activities in, because it

was ac:iv? 2t the point in zime ~hat we initially

mobilized to ~he site, but we wersz’ c stize exactly what

waste rr,ateriais hzd been Iandfilied theze.

So the focus here was to go in, confirm the waste

materials that

actually had been landfilled here, confirm the lateral

extent sncl depth sf any waste materials, and ther. provid~

inforv.atio?., afiaiytical information, about th? ~ature @f

any hzzardous zonscituents that may or r,ay not be there,

but also information to actually perform closu;e of this

landfill area, whether that be closure in place &gsin, if

that’s conceivable, or within the acceptable criteria of

the regulations ox excavation ar,d rsmovai of all the waste

maceriais incc an on-site land-based uniz.

Mhat you can see here is, is basically the transects

of the excavation trenches tha~ werz done Cl?rol.gh this

area .

And, once again, an exampie of an excavation t~e:lch

showing a lot cf cases that there was native soil cc ?

l~rg~ ex~ent located along the Widtl) ~f tb.~ ~L-X_C}O ~~d

then \-arious layers of waste rtacerials cn5L had keen

present arid then also zhe fact zhat we actual~:,” c.ic

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in a length and widen ciimensioii.

This is th? western landfill area. This is iccated

right up along cne northern porz:on. 3C the ins:allatlor-.

This is anGther area that was reported to us as kavlng had

landfilling activities. This area was noz active at the

point in time that we mobilized tc :he inst.aliation, so it

was realiy an u~k~ow~ 10CatlOIl CO US.

However$ as I have photos cf iatsr on in :~e

presentation, there were several depressions that were

obvious to us. When you did look at ~he locatior., not

only from the area, but from the several high pcints that

are located, there were severs> -- what SpPear~~ to be

depressions or slip trenches tha~ may, Ir. i?.:t, !.~.;ebeerl

constructed in this srea. And we also hzd S?VSZZ~

riisturbed areas Df vegetation located ~~t~aneous two to

three trsnch areas, and all those aress were basicallY

investigated by the ?xcavztioT. aCti-JIZ~es tius~ng the

cG~rse of OIJr operations.

kitlat you can see here, far exar.?ls, iS a.1 example of

us Coming in from an area that we feel Wa$ ci?~r an(~

moving in until we did define che was~~ m.z~erials and rhcn

StOpping acc then coming in and basical:y cGI?.in~ in

perpendicular to chat area. sc we ba~;csli~? .r.hd:Y,at 11-.Z

two dimensional pros?ec~i~’e. And then by depz:! we

basically would be able to come up witk. a cr,-.rccirne:IsloI!,

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the depth of the waste materials.

Ofice again, hers’s an example of one C: the tz-euch

profiles chat we did put togscher, What we ~ere able to

con:irm iz Lhe wsscern landfill arss is pretty m~cc there

had b~en a 10L of inner material and debris fr~m chs

C1OSUXE opera~i~ns of Lhe ir.stallstion, wood d.sbris, metal

strapping, parts of some of che d.eac:ivazi~n f~rr.aces,

bricks, furnace bricks, metal structures, ar.d different

thinks Like Lhat. Not a let of municipal trash, more

metal banding and wood debris r,ore than any~hing else,

electrical conduit. Just a lot of construction aebris

that kras ass~cizced possibly with the closing days of the

installation or just some demolition of previous

operations .

Now, Dnce again, just some photos to gi’~e ~:ou some

idea cf what we’: e leaking ac . This is a little difficult

to see. This is the Group C disposal area. You can see

the waste materials that were kind OS placed alo~g ~l]e

side of the arroyo bank a~.d in rhe side CUE arid cur

excavfitor movin5 through those ares, a iot of pallets, a

i~t Gf tires, a loc of ammunition bo~. materials.

There’s another photo of tke la=ger area Crom the

Group C ais~oss: arsa. Again, you can see & 10C of

pallets, a lot of wood materials, amm;nitiar. 5z>: residus,

metal sicrap?izg. This area ?i~ havs s~mc concerr for

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unexploded ordinance, and we d<d ha-de zhe U:(O cversigk.t

lot only in these activities, hut. cne ochsr Lsnd tc it ‘-

at the other landfill areas just fc~ safety purpc,ses.

Hers you can see a tr?nch through the was~e materials..

in chs GrG’dD C cispcsal area.

This is a phcto of the central landfill area. That

was a backfilled arroy~ charinei. Whar you Cali se? hzre is

basically the base of rhe arroyo channel zs it’s bezn

backfilled and now wiCh the vegetative growth chat’s

3ccurring, the side walls of the arroyo itself.

And th2n, again, some of our exca.Jation activities

through cnose areas, a lot of the strapping, ~he wood

pallets, a lot of metal banding also loca:ei in this areat

and a lot more Of what I WOUld consider more mu.nic~pal

rrash and not so rn~ch constructicr, of demalicicr. debris.

Tk.ere also was one drum ider:tifi?d in the co~.rse of

~ur Excavacicn acr-ivities . That dram Unfortunately was

punctcred by our excavator in chs ca’~lse 2: ‘JrAC@~”erin9

it. ~~~ the waste =Laterial and soii that was imFact~d ‘>}’

that drum were all excavated a~d rem~vedt a~~ ~hc~e w~~te

materials were removed to a hazardo~s waste ~.~spc:fii

facilit-y.

They were teSCed. Thsy did not come up as E:’ZA

hazardous WSS:S, but the Army ti?cidsd ~ha~ OLC af safetY

securicy, chat they would send tho~~ ma~e~i’~i~ Zc’ a

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hazardous wast? ciisposai facility, And we h?lie~’e it ~’ss

basically hydraulic oil.

MS. JAZOBS: What’s R!2R.Ahazarjchs w.iS=e?

MR . EGNACZYK: Pardon?

?4S. ZACOBS: RCRA?

MR. EGNACZYK: It did not meet any of the

characteristics ~f a hazardous was~?. In Dt.h?r words, it

was not czrrssivs. It was not a ignitable. IL did not

fail TCLP. It was all from -- no: co~rosive,

MR. WALDEN: What does RCRA mean?

hlR. EGNACZYK: Resourcs Conservation and

Recovery Act.

Here’s sn overview of the western landfill area. it’s

a little difficult to see, but -- because I know what I’m

lookin~ for. You can see some of those slip crecches are

just depressions tlia~ we ciid icen~ify in chat area, and

t5.az’ s what we based o~r excavat>a?. activiri?s or:, zn d

thst is, in fact, wh?r~ we ~id f~nd tP,e maceriais thzt had

bsen landf~lied.

Once again, j’usc a couple Gf shots of a Ls= cf ‘-he

electrical cc>duic and just T.&zeri?.ls Lhat wer5 &:lcO&’2red

ir the wes~ern landfill area.

An Cla f:re protection S-ystem stand pipe.

A lc: c: inner rlacerials.

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che previous operations that were a:~ ba.sic~i~’i ‘- “had

~een remilitarized They were jUSC b~siCZl~y PmFCy she’.~s

Lhaz had been placed in an o~erzciox.

The focus xiow for this area is we’ve xow ki~?. cf

summarized all of these res~lts, and all o: the zes’ults

from this area are farther along Lhan for Lh? G310D area,

a~d we’re curre~tly in ch? pr~cess af presex~icg a r~p@rt

zo the Army. It will Enen be presented to the State of

Rew Mexico and EPA far final resolution. and c~~~~re of

thsse areas.

MR. MURPHY: Steve, these rocke~

canisters -- Ray’ Mur>hy, the rocket car?isters ~h?t you

mentioned, cr at least illustrated lr. the cras~-~ectlon

there , you didn’t havs any photos o: Lkase, Or are ~hese

the shipping containers, or ar.s thsse ~he acc’~cl racket

units?

MR. EGXACZYK: I chink by --

MR . MURPRY : Not the projectile or warhead,

but che act~al motor?

MR . EGXACZYK: Nc, I thi~k You’re

misinterpreting what we mean b? “mocar” lr- ‘:--c:case’ a

motor is a small motor, the kind yoa see cn T?; ard Ine

Army, not the kina that YOU have as far as r~~ket

propelled engines of any kind. These are all smell

ar~inance :tems Th5Se would be s25L1s crd~nance iz=ms

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MR. MLTRPXY: Right Bllt “JliE.Cpart of the

rocket, ~he 3 ,5 inch rocket did you find’?

MR 3GNACZYK: The shell izself.

MS. STELL: This is Miry Jar.? Stell. And

you’re righ~, most af it -- because I was there -- was the

packinq. ?he Canisters were the packing materials, th~

things that zhe sheils themselves wo’~ld sit in for the

?acking.

i.lR.EGNACZYK: Is tha~ what yOLI meant?

Ml?. MIJRPHy : Not ths actual --

MR . EZNACZYK: NO, I’m sorry, no: the actual

shell itself.

MR. KURPHY: NDt an act’ual --

MR. EGXAZZYK: NC, no, not act~al shell.

These ordinancs items here had ac:’ually beer? run tk.raucjh,

what we believe, zh? deactivation ?crnace wh?re they

act=ally had bsen demilitarized, Z?-ldth-ese w=re the empty

shells that were remaining. They had holss in tt.e side,

and a~l the v.at+rials had all been washea Gut of tnose

materials.

MR . MLIRPHY : Y2ah, but ck,at’s rf?+ j5=~. I !.,,,

specifically ask~ng about ths thuee-and-a-half iI Li.

rackets

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MR. 13GN.%CZYK: >.r.yother questions? Thank

you .

MR. WINKLER: Joe Winkler here. i’ti like LO

ask somebody from the State if they could deszri?e same of

~he specifications for on-site cLos.Ir2 that zi:e evaluated.

I don’t kn~w who I should atidrsss thzE to.

MR. S~LANO: I’m Phillip S.olano from the New

Mexico Environment Department. And your question, a~aln,

was?

FIR. WI?JKLER: What ars the criterie ti?at you

100!< ac when they say, I,we LhlnK this sho.~ld be Cr,-Sit2

clos’u~e as opposed to removal”? What do you -- tkings dO

you look ac to say, “Yes, you can do that,” sr “No, You

can’t”?

MR . SOLANO: Ths Army is going Lo CCT? ‘up

with a proposal for zhe on-site disposal ‘.lnlt, as far =S

what zype af a unit it will be: tine p’~~ t~-a~ ~llt~ a

proposal a~.clsubmit it to us and review it zrid make sure

that ix abides by the courtes)’ of all reg’v.iat?.ans, the

State -- State regulations.

NIR. WIrJKLER: Skay 20’Jld >’OL ~’tisrLriefiv

describe some sf the criceria :ha~ ar~ ~~ :~~ ‘:~~:~

MR. SCL.ANO: Some of Eke cr~teria >egard!il~

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the on-site aispcsal unit, a Partio= is going LO be set

aside. It is going LO be apprcx~ma~ely ISOO acres; is

that corr.ccc? And that’11 be secured in rhe fyor.t of the

fence, and that’ 11 be called the unexploded OrQir.ante

boundary, and that’ 11 be strictly f:r Army persor.nel ,

on-site personnel, and it will not Se accessible to anv

public It will be fenced, Si9ned and secczicy iv,panaled.

It will remain in Army jurisdiction for sscurizy. It will

not be turned over as Erar.sfer of Lne b~ur,dzry.

MR. ALEXANDER: Tim Alexander fYcIm,the Army

Environmental Center. Joe, wha~ we looked aL relative to

the central and western landfills, initially, we zctually

looked at New Mexico)s criteria for closing ix solid waste

landfilled pcscs.

And some ~f Ehoss criteria involvec erlgineering

analysis of capping materials, okay. And, actually, what

we were looking at is, I think, thle ~~rform~~.~e standard

had been minus ir.permeability for tha~ cap. T:lat‘s :?Le

type cf thing we looked at.

What we have been considsri~g Of lzte -- a;;d I think

we’ve talked to th~ RAF a number Cf Limes ~“>z.~z ~kis

site-wide restoration concept. = think Lk.=t.’ s v:t.at

Phillip was allu5ing to, was a la~ci-~ased un:.c w!~hi~ t-he

OB/OD area.

so, initis;ly, we looketi a: Eke cer.tra~ znci west~rn

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landfills, and we’re still lasking at rhis Optiofl,

~lthough ic doesn’t -- You kr.o~, we’re fa’zoring it to the

>ther, is to actualiy close it in place of ordlncnce with

~ew Mexico’ s regtiiationst okay. What is ttlat? A2ain,

t’s qeaeraily irr.permeable ~ype of cap, s~rface water

irainage systems. That’s essentially it.

Ths other now, on rhe other hand, is the Rssocrce

:onservati~n and Recovery Act of Hazardous Waste FacilitYl

A,hicb.wouid be a double-lined unit baSiCallY with a

ieachate collection system in Flacet With a leacf-ate

detection monitoring system in piace, closed with. an

impermeable cap.

Probably char -- that’s really the state of the art

for land disposal facilities. It’s double-lined -- a

double-lined system, impermeable cap, a leachate

c~llect<on and, actually, a between the liners with a

~eachate m~ni~or ar,d detection ZOlle. And, obvicusly,

there Will be some type of a mon~to~in~ a]”ldde~eccion

system otitside the unit as well. Typically, t;~,at2s a

groundwater system, but there are other alternati~’es.

Does tha: answsr your questi~n?

MR . WINDORD: Y?s Th2nk yca very ~:’dch.

MR. FISHER: Any other questions? I 11 I’JW

turn the time over to Katrina.

MS. AJZMIAN: I’m. Katrina Ajen!:ar., ~’m w>th

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the Fort Worth District Corp of En~iReezs, ~3 .v:[ 11 ~o~

My rOle has been tO Eake the ~~a~ ~n ~he ~25:Gn ftiactlon

that Fort Wcr:n district was azcep~lng after z?.e remedial

investigations.

However, we’re now in the process at rhis cir.e where

I’m in the role as the project manager and the BKAC

integrator fcr ccsrciinating ali work ~one by bock :K?s

Huntsville district zna Albuqtierque Cistrict and, also,

accept5ng some of the work now frsr, P.rv.y En\,ironmental

Center to include the ifivestiga~ion work that ZR?I has been

doing .

Julie, did I see a qu~stioi,?

MS . JACOBS , Yes , please. Kha~ is EsAC?

MS. AJEMIAN: Base Realignment and Closure,

tihich is the program ur.der which Fort h’ingate wzs clased.

MR. WALDEN: Thar’s the 198Z si~e, first .-

MS. AJEMIAN: All the wark tti-ztwe have been

:alking about a: this mesting up ~until n~w falls under a:l

umbreiia of a study and report CZ1LS6 Rer.efiizi

Investigation and Feasibility Szudy: 3-IFS for shcrt from

here on.

This is a ?rccess that we starteti in-o’L,>2, zr.d it

began with che indepth rssearc> af the zp?rsziczs of thiz

facility and identifyl~g potenczal arsas Z: ~oi~c~l:is of

which we i~e~tified 45.

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We then lGske6 at Lhase, t::ie~ ZO 60 SCii sampling and

:he kind of samPlin9 that .EarV ~a~e sza sce~’e iax-e bsen

~eporcing, Ldes:ified; was thzze z zc~cer~ St zhis ares?

Ind if there was nGthing fount, then addrsss i: zs HO

further action needed. And”’if ther? was somezlning found,

~ssess the risk ~f what was f~und axd then d~velc’p a

>roposed acclon.

We are now ccming to the final stage Of that actlvlt>rt,.

>nd I1ve g~t a schedule here that w1ll ~h~w Y@”J ~-ow ‘e’ 11-

Einish this out. What you see f~rsz, here, is tte site

tiork that has “Deen ongoing in the final stages cf it. In

facz, just today, we are star:ing this very last phase,

which is another round of moniccr well sampling to help

verify chat data, the preliminary draft d~ta ~~’at ‘azJ’

Jane was discussing esrlier.

After that, -.ueare going in~o the final stage

of C!IE Remedial Znvesti3ation ~easi~ility St’Jd;r, a~a we

are lookins EO have a report to the zegulaturs fcr

coDrdinaLion with them in th~ J“~n~/J:~Y ~i~~ frame , anG

Lhen a flnal report cha~ will be released r~ ~h~ U’JL~ic

and all the public repositories :n the August ~ime frame.

ltow, one issce tklat we Pave come ZG agreement With New

Mexico Efiviranmental Departmer:E anti che Er!vircrme~tal

Protection ~ge~cy iS Chat this ~z~s ‘e~sr z w:ll cddres5

oniy the scil aress of concer~A a~ F~r~ ‘L:33;L?I “eta’ase

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obviously from what Mary Zane was rsporting ea~~ier, chsrs

has been some explosives identified in the grcuntiwat+r,

and there is additional w~rk in tha: area . So this fix.al

report 1S not going to close OUE the gr~u:,dwa~er

investigations. There will--be addicior.al s:udies in that

area and foilow SE RIFS re~ortina . far the grauntiwater.

After che Ei?lal report, then, w? WiL~ go into wt.at

we’ve been discussing, and that is, Wk.at’s Ln? cr-site

closure? And the next step is tG ca~,e up wizh a proposed

aCtiCn fOr Eiosure of all the contaminat~d sails t~.at we

have found within potentially the 03/OD ufiiz,

That’s an area that we are still discussing with the

regulators After our RIFS is final, we will tiraf~ a

proposal, submit it to the regulators for cosrd;~ztion.

And I think if you n~ticed tiawn thsxe, one of zhe final

steps is that there will be a public mee:ing and a public

com.menr pericci,

That’s what we’re looking ar dsing i;i C::LS area

through the summer under the RIFS.

Qusstion, Julie.

MS . JACOBS: If I’N ~ ~,~mber c!f :!.:: pu~lic

here in Gallup, h9w can I ger a copy c,f tb.az lr.~crr,aLIGn~>

XS, AJEMIAN: It will be here In :Y.e G.311UI

public Library.

MR. EGNACZYK: Ic is hers.

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MS. .AJEMI.%N: Ysah, e-~sr>.thin~ we’ve dane to

:his point is beret and all f’~:urs dacumer]ts wiil be LIere

in the Gallup Public LlbrarY. I be.ieve we SISJ s,ub’,mitIL

EO the Navajo.

YR. EGNAC.ZYK: ‘ Ri5htr tn~ Navajo, ~p*I l=cd

;urvival is all -- and the RIFS repar~, employmer.t , che

?cRA employment cantractr and Lnere may Ls a few others.

MR. ALEXANDSR: Tim Alexande=. it was

~rouGhZ to my attention earlier rha~ frankly there may be

materials actualiy missing from ths rep~sitory here in the

Gallup Library. So what we’rs g~ing to do, is we’ll go

back and inventory that file and reestablish what’s

missing.

!vIS,AJEMIAN: Any other questions Gn this

phase of activities?

MI+. ALEXANDER: Tim Alexander agaic. I just

want to make a comment, and poor Kacrina, I k~;ld of pushed

her up there tanight. She’s cicing ~r?:ty ZDDC? here. I

just want to confirm Lhat what we’re Lalkln9 a~o~t 1s

getting a report out that will, <n fact, &s Kszrixa said,

zdtiress the con~aminz~ea scils that we’ve idenciflcd acd

assessed iri the past several years a~ Fo~~ b;>n~are It

does not address che ~rounawater.

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and Recovery -Act clas,~re of an interim ~tztu~ ~nlt This

was a unit t.h.atwas real~~ __ I gtiess: 15 it wasr.’t going

to be closed, it Will have EC ~,e pe~mi~~e~ I.~ keep ~n

operating. WsLi, ob’Jiously, We’ve clcsed down ~k~ po~~,-.

SC3 we’ve discontinued use of rzat op~raticn, and we’ re

looking to close i~.

And I chiRk what Katrina was al~u5ing ~~ ~arli51 is

something that may be unclear to yo”a, is we zoncir.~~e to

work in thst area irI accordance with cl-e CIOSGr~, and it

was s’~bmi~ted tc New Mexico. Now , that closure plar was

actually submitted, an amendment to it. IL was submitted

in May of this ye2r.

AS yet -- ac~ually, we,ve PUE i~ out for pub~lc

comment as well So we went througti a period where there

was nozlficati~ns, a public coriment pe~icd and a res-ponse

perio~. SO z tkink it’s pretty well wrappefl u~, but we

havefi’t actually received a fi~cl approval far t!.at

parz icular clos,ure plan, but we Cor.tinue co w~rk thro,~ah

the elements of chat clcsure plan.

SO we’re looking to get th~t approved is the near

term., and then we’ 11 continue on the work zecesszry -C

figure out what e.sactly our prcbiems are J~ ir. :}.~~ .~red

and what we need to da co sdtiress them. so lZ iS a

separa:e tracr. Khat we wa~t LO caks care of L!lis ysar is

that Remefliai Irvesri ~ation and Feasibility SEUdV ~,p.those

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;iEe S that were, I g’Je SS, pus~-=d forward as a. re=ult of

zhat study.

MS. AGEMIAN: TiI~I :s c5rr2ct. This

finalization hsre chat we’re c~lkin.3 abo~c ix A,~gUSt ~oeS

~3t represent fin~li~acion &f Che gz~~~.dwa:?r cr

Finalization of the closure of che open b“arning/open

detonation tiriic. IL represents :i~alization of the

landfill-type areas that Steve was showing y>u pictures of

just a short while ago.

And jus~ for clarification, theze is ‘- it’s hard to

see with this light -- but somewhers in there “OL,” thst

represents Ect Oklahoma UrLiversi~y# buz operating unit.

So when we’re talking abou~ land-based ~i]it, che SO1lS,

cor.tar.inatio~., we’re talking about an operating unit of

contaminated soils that we are addressing a little closer

now.

Additional activities that will be ~li~oi~g ir.elude

further investigation of the gr~ur.dw~ter iss’~es, TF&is is

~r. overhead Chat Mazy Ja.!12 sh~wed yO’J a li~~le ‘klle 390’

and, YCU know, we have identified welis chat we’re 9oing

up anti verify ing tfiat there is CO~tFi~lr..3CiOIL 0:1.

This s.ummzr we are looking at ~d~i~.icnai s~t:i.:es that

Wiii identif~, areas for addi~icnal %’511 i2C&t:01:$ ~~ trv

cc ide~tify ~he ~xter,t of the ~iIr.Scha: W+ P.3-;EXFC?.~’?d

I US2 “hits,” messing a~cve nol~-~e~=cc c:2sLi=uezrs ak::”~

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non-detect and the sampling. Sc we will start tl-latwork

this surnms:.

In addition, we will be following Up cn the w~ork in

the open btirnin~:(open dezc~.atioa unit zrez to cry and

better understand the geological ccnai~ior.s “Jp tt.Ers.

We’ve put in some wells that we’ve done some preliminary

monitoring, and the preliminary resulrs we’ re getting are

very uneven, SC we want to go in there and do some

gsophysicai s~udies.

This is che area for those of you that are familiar

with the topography sround here where the generally flat,

sloping area comes up against the hogback ridges, and that

is -- at this junction, is whsre that OB/C)D unit is.

S3 we’ re ~cing to start same fieldwork going in there

anc trying to ~dsntify exactl-y what the subsurface looks

like, so we can better evaluate the yroundw&ter coriditions

~n the future an~ better address the closure plar., Any

questions ~n the qrcundwater?

SOMe other activities that w~ll be go;ng on this

summer that, in my mind, are a little more exciting

because they’rs Sctusl remetiiation aczivi:ie? -- >,Ou#re

going to see something happening out I-Ie:e --’=- th,~n just&-.. --

taking more samples.

9ui~dirig 5G3 was the washout piant chat !,iaryrane

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.eachifi~ beds. That buildin~ he.s ~Jsry low pocentlal reuse

:or a couple of r?asor.s. One is ths industr~ai facilitY

;s in vsry Door condition 2s a structure itself. And,

ZWo, it is highly co~taminated. The contaminants cf,.

>oncern that wers identified irj the Remedial Investigation

and Feasibility Study l~clude eXPlC51veS.

What haDpened in cne wssho~t process ~-aS heat and hot

water was used as a solve~t, a solution tc w?.sh out the

nunitions so that we have volatilization Gf explosives

:hat then cooled and deposited chroaghouK che building.

tie also have asbestos in that bu~lding, lead-base~ Palrlt

Ze have pain: on ths washout plane eq’di?ment i?s~~f. P.nd

in one of the rocms where transformers were stored, we

have some PCB stains from the transformers.

we are going to come in this summer, remeaiate t~o~e

areas and ther, demolish the building as all ultimate

remedial action, which will yield s site -- ~i~ar ~~~~

“-n thatready for YDU GCYS -- ready f~~ th~ transfer 0: “-”

time occurs.

Right now we’re looking at scheaule wh,ere we will

solicl~ bi~s on the contract iri the March,A9ril time

frame, award construction by June, ar.a Ensn F,cp5fLllY

start work and mobilize in July.

MR. ALEXANDER: T’irhAl~J:a~Iid=I” S: ~ ~:~

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the effect that we navs a. lot O: tn?se t}rpes of scruc~ures

nationally. And r.he way we ?,zrztile zhese are Eo accually

evaluate Cher. ar!d recommend sn abacsrrient alterna~i’re to

the Department of Defense Explosive S2fety 9azLa. And

we’ve done that, ana we act~ally have proposed sons loops

on thzt . But ~hat’s who we’ve interacted with ir. regards

to now best to rectify that part:cu:ar condi~i~ll. And I

guess the answ+r is, is we ars going co be d?m~lishing the

building. ~kl~t ‘S the bottom line, demclish lL, then close

off.

MS. AJEMIAN: The safsty coricern is that

with the volacilizacion of the e::plosives an: the

liquidation in the process, chat zhsre c~~ld 5C explosives

in any nook and. cranny of that building. So it ‘s a

step-by-step, prscty much a hand de’L~~iition and inspection

of each component. And areas where Ehere’s rEsitV.al

exp~oslves will be taken ,up to cne 3B/OD ulilL ~Or D1-oper

disposai

MR . WINKLER: Will yc’~ be ~LCKir.~ - - Joe

Wickler -- at sediment as opposed to a chunk C: Explosive

remedy?

MS. AJEMIAN: No, we’re r,ot talk~r~g

sediment . 515’re talking a workshop “where P,Jlt5n material

may ha~’e s~lidified. Sc it WOUld be more al~r.g C!I= ch~..nk

liiie. That’s why iz’s a hanti pr3c2ss. YC?’L.J501:’L -- you

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don’ t go in zr.d bulldoze t;his h,u~ld~.ng. SCI 1: will be a

step-by-step hand removal process,

yl~ W;NKLER, CO_id ~:~.~r ag~in, state your

Drganizacixa Er.d your role :X --

!“!s . AJEMI.Vi: I am wick Ehe Corp of

Engineers, U.S. Army Corp of Ei?glnears, civilian employee,

okay.

MR. WINKLER: Ir. Texas?

MS. AJENIAX: I arc in the Fort Worth

district. Our j~risdiccion covers, in the military area,

construction projects for New Mexicc and the state of

Texas .

MR. WINKLER: And you~ zitle far tt.is --

MS. AJEMIAN: I am in two cities really.

From the Fort Worth district prospective, I am the project

manager fcr ail cur work at Fore Wingate Depot ?-CtivltY to

include the Ballistic Missile Defense Crgznizacicn’s

c onstructian out there ac this C>me. In ~hat role, I

oversee the design and cox?struc:ion for all =Czi~ities

here at Fort Wingate.

In addition, from Ehe base reaiignmenz End C~DS’JSe

prospezcive, Z s?:.ths ERAC integraz~r for :hs

en\’ironmenLai resccratior. program hexe at 20:-: [.lingate.

In that rale, I coordinate with P.rmv ZnvL:0r,75?ncai Center,

the unexplccied orcinance anti c~eaz67.z? 5czl’~il~es CL: cf

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Huntsville CoYp District, and the s’~lzuxal resoLzce

activities Dut of ths Albuquerque Carp EiscricL.

NIR. WIiJKLER: And you’re a civil er.glneer by

trade, I assume?

MS. A2EMI.4N: I am, an envircnmencal

engineer by Mzster’s Degree, ard then cn-zhe-job training

go along with thst. I b.ave actuaily been ir.’$zl’~eciin this

project for twc years now. I was the lea~ desigc engiceer

when ws first started in 1995, IoDking at the facilities

like building 503, and I was inzegral in de~~eloping the

remediation c?esign for it. And now, i= thess past three

months , I’ve been transitioned into the lead roIe for

Fort Wingate Depot activities. So I do bring historical

knowledge to it.

And the last activity that we wiil ha-de ZUE :Iese in

the next few monzhs is a pilot wash of some of the igloos.

Back in ths RIFS inves~igatians, a satr.plir]g was ccne of

seven co eight percent cf the ig:oos i?. ezch wall .

There’s a total of 732 igloos cn the entire izstz.llarion,

so you can figure ouc tne percentage.

There were roughly 11 tG 12 wh.e:e whi:e samples

iadiczteti minute leveis of e~.p-osive dus:. A fsk Cf rl Ose

ar? in use rignt now by TFL and ‘by che Balilstlc b:izsile

Defense 3rgar,ization. Tflere are e~gh~ LkL3Z are r.oc ir,

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we are p~opasing and will cozrdir.ate Lti.is Icich bOth

EPA and New MeXiZO Environmenzsl DeparzTlerJt, a

high-pressure, lcw-’~olume wash o: Knsse igiocs as ~

remedial action, anti we ar? daing a Pilot ~“~s~ tc’

demonstrate th= technology here at Fort Winga:e. The big

~ssue at Fort Wingate, of course, is the fact that there’s

nO water available and there’s no dlSpOSal area. And so

it could be a very costly process to have to b~~~-9 water

in f~r each igloa.

So the pilot wash includes the tsstin~ and

demonstration of a treatment and recycling process for the

wash water. we are going to mcbllize for zhis lr March.

And weather permitting, we will do the accual

demonstration in April. Question, Malcoim?

MR. WALDEN: Yes. Malcolm, Walden. The

gentleman this mcrnin~ that ~ was tal]<irig tG there W~O had

the res’alts from the wash igloos that BMU~ did “ere yau

privy to those r?sults?

MS. AJEMIAN: I have no: heEI: p<ivy- to those

results, but I a~. familiar ‘ith ‘hat cheY ‘ld’

MR . WALDEN: Ckay Thsy ShC~w~’~ =he resultS

Lhis mornir,g, and, i;l sssenc2, they foun~ zsro, r~thln~

there wh~ch WOU13 indicated t~,ac, YD’U kli~w, ~f yoti pick.

twa 5.C rar.dom In ~hac -- anti d;d thar tw~, I .,,atilclhors

thzt by the time you do your piiaz, ii they ZLSC showec

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nothing, that, yzlu know, zhaz would give cause EO look at

maybe not doing svery iglco on c+.e d?got &xd sFecdin3 a

lot af mo>ey unnecessarily. C3a Y32 use Lhis <aca as part

of your sampling?

MS. AJEMIAN: Yo , beci~se zkey did n~r use

the methods chat we are using. ~hsy tiid not use the same

sampling program that we are using. ~~>~s, the tk.ing that

we have on our igioos that they aid not h&ve, is w? have

known c~ncentraticns prior t~ wash:ng, ani w? ?:a~-e no idea

what condition those igloos were in. S3 we -- it is a

different data set altogether and can~ot be correlated.

MR. WALDEN: Okay

MS . AJEMIAK: However, I think the result

that they found, nothing in their water, is something that

we intend to duplicace, and we believe ths~ 2UZ system

will yield that result.

And, ic fazt, we nave receive~ i~qtiiries :IORI ocher

installa~iar~s arcux?d the country zbzuc what we zre doing.

There has been nc large scale demonstration 2r igloo was~:

like this in the country, and several ir~s~aliacic,ns are

interested in lookin~ at Fcrc Wiaqats ss Ehe 1P?:

inscallatiori in this area. And SO lC COU~d b=COme,

nationwide, a highlighted scti~-izy.

That’s ail I nave far what we’li c? dc)i:lg :r.~s summer

out at Fore Wingate. .~ny queszians for TS?

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,MR, ~]~~p~y: Roy Murphy. T~i~ ~.ay seem \.ery

ninor, btit :he~e LS quite a bit of graffiti insice some ~f

zhes?, and some zf the archeslo~y types hzve ever. szid

that this should be pressrved. Whar affezc will chat have“.

with your --

MS. AZE!VIIAN: We have investigated. No,

zhis is a valii cancer~. For those cilat have not se~n the

~uote, graffizi, sOrLe of it is verY ~r~istic.

MR. MURPXY: Yes, iE is.

MS. AJEMIAN: Okay This is not thE gang

graffiti you see ~ut under the bridges or the railroad

track. We ha~,e keen working xrzry closely wizh Rcnald

Kneebone af the Albuquerque districc. Some of ycu may

know him, and he hzs been working VZrY clcselY wi~h th~

SHPO, State Hlstarlc preservation office, here -- I :hink

I got the Tight words for that acronym -- here ir the

State of New MexicD.

They have ga?e out and inven~oried all of ~he ~r~wlnq~

and have aske< ths State Historic preserv~cion Office,

flwhat do you think? “ The result has come back tk.at, first

of all, they don’t think Shis wash will lT,pF.Ct them. Even

if it did, they ~0 not feel i: is a si~ni:icar.z c~~.~ural

re~ocrc~ and Ep.at we have adequatel!l docu~l~rlL~J, and we

were in ~he fixzl srages of documen~ing wizh ~91Cc

diagrams, p:~~ures and everything w~la~ is ouz cnere.

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YR. EGXACZYK: They’ve doubled t!~em also.

Xs . AJEMIAN: Okzy, I diari’z Svell kr!3w

that . So we have taksn greaz ~zt?z~sz in tli=: z~d tiid nOt

want to do any damage if we hs~ a aefir.ite cuicurai-.

resource there, and we think we have it well doc~mented.

MS. JACOBS, 1s that like WOrld War 11 era,

or something?

MS. A2EMIAN: YES.

MS. WALDEN: Malcolm Walden. I car. comment

on that, when they wsre constructe~. There, s one thsre

that is particularly of historical significance, because

the majority of the work force that b“~ilt the igloos at

Fort Wingate were Navajo due tc sheer demographics, yoc

know, when it became a county.

There was one gentieman who was African .k~.erican, and

he made characters of himself in some of thess iSi.Jos,

because he was a real distinct mlnarity a~ cne Eime. And

they felt that to be of historic significance, the fac~

that , YOU know, zne African Amerlca:l wznted from. r.ne

igloos. That’s a lot of what generated che invescigatiou.

MS. AJE!41AN: That information is in the

State record and is available cociay.

MS. EGIfACZYK: Azd FOZL Worrh nzs ~ireacy

presented -- put Eogecker a pu~l:ca=ion or. c~~: L~SO, ~

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MS J>.COBS: Ju:ie ~T-co~~ 30W do you plan

o wash these lagoons out? Anc whaL are you g5i~9 to do

‘.ith zhe water and.

MS. AJEMIAN: The lagoons?

Ms . JACOBS: No, I’m sorry, iylocs?

agoons , igloos, you knsw.

MS, AJEMIAN: ;hris Whitmari in your cffice

Las the proposal.

MS. JAC33S: Okay

MR. FISHER: He’ s rig>t here. He’s not in

:he office.

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?roposed, like sprinkling of water, i: iCIS Cleat enough,

>U: on the cperl range. That ~~~t ~i ~ctl,.it~ would

require s permit ~romj Eke Scaze Er+\-~~~~.m.a:IZ~epartr,e~t tO

lndertake that. So that permit i s beir:g <valuat~d as we-.

speak .

MS. AJ.EMIAN: The actual wash itself,

zhough, is sim~~ar to steam cleaning, F:igh pressure, low

~olume, and EF.ere are zrenchss w;thip- the igloos

:hemselves. ?tley’ve got a Chalkboard l:eze if I could show

you what I’m talking about.

Looking at -- as most peopie have seen one of these

igloos, at least in my authoriry, n3w, yod’xrs got Lhe roof

Jf it like that. Buc if you look a: zhe floor, you’ve got

:his with an outlet to the exceri~r. So it’s al~eady

Iesigned to b~ washed down. SG we do~:’ t foresee

collection should be any problem,.

In fact, Stan McCalist?x , Scl- or-l-site z?~, with the

:Orp cf Engineers -- Julie, if y3u want Cs 53.ik :0 him

later -- he observsd how the onss thai kati slrezc>- beer.

Mashed out were collected and says ~: was an e:<cellent

:ollecrion Syster., SO it car. be done.

Any other questions. Okzy .

MR. FISHER: Okav. , thillKS, XazL-~r.a. I

appreciat~ thar. Eses anybociy hz’Je a:>y ~zkzr ;ticscisns ,>n

anything else th-a:’ s beer. preser.teti :c?.i~nz? Ja2is.

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future or lsok f~r contrac: -- envi~onmental -type woIk. I

just want to say thank you aiid have s very szvs

envirf2r,menE up there.

MS. AJEMIAN: I !<ll 1 ~L23rion in response to

that -- an~ this Katrina Aje!nian -- tl-.aE cur small

busin?ss representati-ce ‘within zhe For= !qcrth District

Corp cf Zngin22rs has alr2acy approached TE a?ld asked

about our upcamiay work and whaz can we set aside and

identify for targeting north?rn-~wn~d businesses in Ehe

area so tna: is something ws’re definitely looking at.

MR. MILLER: We wane the money to stay here.

MR. FISHER: I understand. Yes, sir.

MR . TGM : I haci a ques~icn --

MR. FISH3R: Yo.~r name, please.

MR. TOM: My name L s Vince TOT, -- ES to who

comprises the Restoration Advisory 3a2rd?

MR. FISHER: If yzu’d like LO ‘c? a m,ember of

the Restoration .lavisory Boarti, bas:cally, they filled out

an application a few years ago when we gcc s~arced s:ld

submitted it, and, basically, ic was jUSt kinci of \.cjted

upoR, you know, wno would accer.d -- Dr wh~ wculd hs a

member of tlhis bsard.

MR TOY! , So w.hc are the ~.er,bal-~ nc,w?

NIR. FISFISR: Tlhe members - - af C.2U: se, I

didn’t bring my list, but I’m. a cachair, !..GukLov:, arid L1’.e

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irm,y represen~atlve. ~Je have ~no:h?r cochair, Lynx

;helcon, WI-LO was unable t~ b= F.ers :azic -he.

!4R. EGNACZYK, He’s ill.

MI/ F~S:-:~R: He’s :11. Fir. Joe wir.kler is..

~lso a membar of che Rescsratica Ad”Jiscry Boasd. Bob

{erren is also a member of the boar5.

MR . WALDSN : There were -- Malcolm Walden

speaking here. Tk.ere were members from the Army d:ld from

the State Regulatory Agenzy and chex members a: lar9e.

There were notices that were PUC our i= the paper that

~aslca]ly were asking for co~cerned citizens to volunteer.

And just about everybody zh?it did was selected d~e to the

small number.

There are other BRAC installations, and it might be

worthwhile to give a little bit of background here in

Restoration Advisory Boards. They wsre created by :993

legislation. AS part of the parliament chat -- what’ S

known as President Clinton’s fire ?Lan znci tr.en further by

the Base Closure Community ASSYStaZCe At:, cc sexve ~he

single purpose of getting BRAC C~eaauP data o~~ to che

public as a whGle.

Some BRAC installations in the :o’Jr.tTy kav+

Restoration Advisory Boar6s w~,er~ tn?~e ~Qi~i b? ~~ ‘r 70

members of rhs p-aklic tn?re. here az For: Wir.gate, cne

public participaclon has always been ~a~r~Y ~~’~il, but ‘t

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REPORTER’S CERTIFICP.TZ

T-, GERLEN2 F’! MARTINZZ, a tour: rep3rr2r fcr rfie

>ffice of Paul BaCa Professional Co’.lrc RepOEE5=3, do

>ereby cercify that 7 repor~?a Zhe fGr.s9sics nee~ing in

stenogra~hic shorthand ar-ci transcribed, or nati Eke same

:ra2scriks5 under my scpervisic> acd Cizec=isz and :hat

the same is a Erue snd cozrezt rezard cf zhe p~oceedlngs

hsd at the c~me and place.

~ FURTH2F. CERTIFY that I am neither employee k,y r.Or

related to any of the parties, and t~at I hav~ no interest

whatsoever in ck.e final disposit~on Of this matter.

WITNESS Ny H-LND THIS 5TH day Of March 13?7.

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