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IEEE P802.11Wireless LANs

Minutes of the IEEE P802.11 Full Working Group

Date: 2018-07-13

Author(s):Name Company Address Phone email

Stephen McCann BlackBerry Ltd The Pearce Building, West Street,

Maidenhead, SL6 1RL, UK +44 1753 667099 [email protected]

Minutes page 1 Stephen McCann, BlackBerry

AbstractThis document constitutes the minutes of the IEEE 802.11 full working group for the July

2018, San Diego, California, USA meeting.

Please note that all affiliations at this meeting are shown in Annex A.

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IEEE 802.11 Plenary Meeting – Session #170Manchester Grand Hyatt Hotel, San Diego, California, USA

July 9th – 13th, 2018

IEEE 802.11 Opening Plenary, Monday 9th July 2018

The chair: Dorothy STANLEY (HPE) opened the meeting at 10:30 Pacific Daylight Time (PDT).

Jon ROSDAHL Vice-chair 1 (VC1) QualcommRobert STACEY Vice-chair 2 (VC2) IntelStephen MCCANN Secretary BlackBerry

There are 303 voting and 11 Ex-Officio members of IEEE 802.11

There are several members of the IEEE staff who are present at this meeting.

1. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-18-1025r1)

1.1. This is the main agenda for the week and shows the allocation of meetings to time slots. The meeting is in Quorum.

1.2. Chair: There is one IEEE Staff member present.1.3. Chair: Please note the changes to the agenda meeting graphic as shown.1.4. Comment (C): There are 17 time slots on the screen, but 20 in IMAT.1.5. Chair: Yes, that is being fixed at the moment.1.6. Move to approve the agenda (graphic and Monday agenda only) which will become 11-18-

1025r21.7. Moved: Al Petrick, second: John Notor1.8. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the agenda was approved by unanimous consent.

2. Notices (11-18-1026r0)

2.1. Please note that photographs and recording devices are not allowed in these meetings and put cell phones to vibrate please. If there are any members of the press present, please can they make themselves known.

2.2. None2.3. C: Some of the badges don’t appear to be correct.2.4. Chair: Yes, some badges needed to be reprinted, so please return to the registration desk for a

new one if your voting rights are not shown correctly on the badge.

3. May 2018 WG Minutes

3.1. Are there any matters arising from those minutes please?3.2. Move to approve the Warsaw May 2018 minutes in document 11-18-0634r0


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3.3. Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: Stuart Kerry3.4. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the minutes were approved by unanimous consent.

4. Attendance

4.1. Please remember to login and register your attendance.4.2. 16 people attended this meeting for the first time out of 241 people in the room.4.3. Secretary: There will be a new member’s meeting today at 13:30 (PM1) today, in room Mission

AB.

5. Policy and Procedures (11-18-1057r1)

5.1. Regarding patent information, please view http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt for IEEE-SA patent information.

5.2. The VC2 called for essential patents information.5.3. No statements were made.5.4. The IEEE-SA policy and procedures were reviewed.5.5. The IEEE 802 participation slide was also reviewed.5.6. Slide #14 mentions that members can abstain on ballots with “lack of technical expertise” and

that is the only valid abstain option.5.7. Slides #15 & #16 show some proposed rule changes to the IEEE 802 (LMSC) operations

manual.5.8. There are no proposed changes to the IEEE 802.11 operations manual.5.9. No questions

6. Announcements

6.1. Liaisons (11-18-1026r0 slide #4)6.1.1. Chair: There are two liaisons this week, one of which will be considered by 11ax. The

other one does not require a response.6.1.2. No questions

6.2. IEEE-SA Standards Board decisions (slides #5 and #6)6.2.1. Chair: The P802.11ak press release received some comments and the revised version

should be available soon. The Light Communications PAR was approved and therefore TGbb will meet for the first time this week. P802.11aq was approved for publication.

6.3. Other IEEE 802 working groups (slides #8 and #9)6.3.1. Chair: This slide shows links to the agendas of the other working groups and joint

meetings. Please note slide #9 about the IEEE 802.18 regulatory activities that are relevant to IEEE 802.11 this week.

6.3.2. Question (Q): The IEEE 802.19 meeting times are not correct and will be updated.

6.4. Meeting rooms and online calendar (11-18-1064r1 slide 6)6.4.1. VC1: Please note that online calendar has been updated and is more automated and should

match the attendance and online schedule. There is a QR code on your registration pack to


http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

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find an online agenda and schedule.

6.5. Breaks and Wednesday social (slides #7 and #8)6.5.1. Please note the times of lunches and breaks. There are eating areas within the hotel and

many outlets outside the hotel itself.6.5.2. Breakfast is included in the registration and will be in the main foyers.6.5.3. There is a network help desk near the IEEE 802 registration desk, which now includes

adaptors for the room projectors.6.5.4. The social is on Wednesday evening. Please obtain a guest badge from the IEEE 802

registration desk for any guests. This will start at 6.30pm and will include food.

6.6. Meeting with IEEE Executive Director (slide #11)6.6.1. VC1: This will occur at 6.30pm on Monday evening. There no tutorials this week.

6.7. November 2018 plenary (slide #15)6.7.1. VC1: Please note that the November 2018 plenary meeting will be in Bangkok, Thailand.

6.8. September 2018 interim (slide #16)6.8.1. VC1: Please note that the September 2018 meeting will be in Waikoloa, Hawaii, USA and

hotel reservations are now available. Please be aware of the hotel reservations instructions on the reservations web-site.

6.9. Attendance (slide #21)6.9.1. VC1: Please remember to register your attendance including affiliation for each meeting

that you attend. Please record your attendance honestly. There are 314 people who have registered for this IEEE 802.11 meeting.

6.9.2. Please note that the IEEE-SA web accounts are free.

7. Status of all groups (11-18-1026r1 slide #12)

7.1. Chair: These slides show the general structure of the IEEE 802.11 activities and all the current officers for all the sub-groups. Please note that there are two new groups during this meeting: Extremely High Throughput (EHT) Topic Interest Group (TIG) and Ethernet Cable Requirements (ECR) Ad-hoc Group (AHG).

7.2. Lei Wang will chair WNG this week.7.3. Yunsong Yang will chair TGba this week.7.4. The 11ax draft 3.0 letter ballot passed.7.5. There are reports of all the current groups within the document 11-18-1058r2. Here are some

extra notes:7.6. Editor’s Meeting: This occurs at 7am on Tuesday morning.7.7. ARC: Please come along to the IEEE 802.1 YANG meeting, which is also applicable to IEEE

802.11 members who are interested in YANG.7.8. PAR SC: This Standing Committee (SC) will formalize the review of PARs from other IEEE

802 working groups. There are 4 PARs to be reviewed this week.7.9. WNG: There is one meeting on Tuesday morning to consider future topics for IEEE 802.11.

There are currently 4 presentations.7.10. TGax: The letter ballot on Draft 3.0 passed, so TGax now has an approved draft. The work

this week will concentrate on the 2153 comments that were received in that letter ballot.


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7.11. TGbb: This Light Communications (LC) task group is meeting for the first time this week.7.12. BCS (Broadcast Services): The PAR and CSD will be worked on this week.7.13. EHT (Extremely High Throughput): This TIG will meet face-to-face for the first time this

week, as there have been a couple of teleconferences since the May 2018 meeting.7.14. FD (Full Duplex): The group will work on an TIG output report this week.7.15. Chair: This group may possible require an extension, but that can be considered in September.7.16. NGV (Next Generation V2X): There will be 3 meetings of this group this week.7.17. ECR (Ethernet Cable Requirements): This ad-hoc will meet face-to-face for the first time

this week, as there have been teleconferences over the last couple of months. 11-18-1124r1 is the current report from this group.

8. Chair confirmation motions (11-18-1059r0)

8.1. ECR ad-hoc (slide #4)8.1.1. Confirm Osama Aboul-Magd as ECR ad-hoc chair8.1.2. Moved Guido Hiertz, 2nd Lei Wang8.1.3. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the motion was approved by unanimous consent

8.2. EHT TIG (slide #5)8.2.1. Confirm Mike Montemurro as EHT TIG chair8.2.2. Moved Ian Sherlock, 2nd Dan Harkins8.2.3. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the motion was approved by unanimous consent

8.3. TGbb Light Communications (slide #6)8.3.1. Confirm Nikola Serafimovski as chair of TGbb8.3.2. Moved Michael Fischer, 2nd George Calcev8.3.3. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the motion was approved by unanimous consent

9. Any Other Business

9.1. None9.2. Meeting recessed at 11:50 PDT


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Wednesday, 11th July 2018

IEEE 802.11 Mid-Week Plenary

Presiding chair: Dorothy STANLEY (HPE) opened the meeting at 10:30 PDT

201 people present.

10. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-18-1025r3)

10.1. Chair: There have been a few changes earlier today, so I propose to approve 11-18-1025r310.2. Chair: Any objection to accepting these changes to the agenda.10.3. No objection to the approval of the agenda by unanimous consent.

11. Policies and Procedures

11.1. Please remember that we are still operating under the policies and procedures as mentioned on Monday.

11.2. The chair re-iterated the rules about participation.

12. Call for Essential Patents

12.1. Call for essential patents.12.2. No statements were made.

13. Announcements

13.1. CAC13.2. Chair: Please can all sub-group chairs remember to attend the CAC on Thursday evening at

7.30pm. If you can’t attend, please can a delegate be found.

14. Wi-Fi Alliance liaison (11-18-1289r0)

14.1. Update on the current activities of the Wi-Fi Alliance.14.2. No questions

15. IETF liaison (11-18-1280r0)

15.1. Update on the current activities of the IETF.15.2. No questions

16. IEEE 802.18 liaison (11-18-1283r0)


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16.1. Update on the current activities of IEEE 802.18.16.2. Chair: regarding slide #3, the ETSI BRAN documents are available, through a link, at the base

of the http://www.ieee802.org/11 web-page.16.3. C: The 60 GHz documents are actually part of the ETSI ERM project, as opposed to ETSI

BRAN.16.4. ACTION: We especially need help with the TGay aspects.16.5. No questions

17. IEEE 802.19 liaison (11-18-1294r1)

17.1. Update on the current activities of IEEE 802.19.17.2. No questions

18. IEEE 802.11 graphic changes (11-18-1025r3)

18.1. Chair: Are there any room releases?18.2. No, but the “PAR comments” meeting will finish after 1 hour.18.3. ARC can move to a smaller room.18.4. Chair: Are there room requests?18.5. NGV would like 1 more slot please, Thurs AM118.6. BCS would like 1 more slot please, Thurs AM118.7. TGaz would like 1 more slot please, Thurs AM118.8. Chair: These changes are ok.18.9. Motion: Approve the room changes to the agenda 11-18-1025r4

18.9.1. No objection to approving by unanimous consent

19. ECR update (11-18-1124r2)

19.1. Update on the ECR ad-hoc from this week.19.2. Q: Are the values per band, or per AP; as it’s possible to have multiple logical APs in a device.19.3. A: It’s for each type of AP, e.g. 11ac, 11ax and 11ay APs. I’ll update the presentation to make

that clear.19.4. Chair: On Friday, we’ll have a motion to approve the final report.19.5. No questions

20. Amendment Cascading (11-18-1259r1)

20.1. Presentation about some potential changes to the current amendment and draft process.20.2. Q: regarding slide #10, is 802.11 gaining a lot by doing this?20.3. A: Yes, as the features will be fixed at an earlier stage and therefore the Wi-Fi Alliance

programs will reflect these features more quickly.20.4. C: 3GPP have many more people than 802.11 and meet more often.20.5. C: regarding slide #9, the PAR should define the scope of the project. Therefore, having a more

restrictive PAR at the beginning would also be an alternative way of doing this. In addition, the cadence should be based on a feature set, as opposed to time.


http://www.ieee802.org/11

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20.6. C: This is a good presentation, but I think more detail is required. Regarding slide #8, there were two presentations in 2014, which were similar to this slide. One of those presentations was accurate, but back in 2014 it was not approved. So, history teaches us to be careful. In addition, the term “major amendment” is difficult.

20.7. C: This process requires a lot of commitment to the process within the group and the gating functions must be respected.

20.8. Q: There is a single 802.11 document at the end of the day. Therefore, how does this cascading plan work with a single 802.11 document.

20.9. A: I think we do a good job with the baseline, so we should be ok there.20.10. Q: I’m also concerned about the other amendments.20.11. Q: I think that defining a process doesn’t work. Educating people is probably more

productive.20.12. A: Yes, but the mentality of the groups needs to change to adopt this updated process.20.13. C: Regarding 3GPP, your slides really only apply to the RAN group. There is also an SA

group and other groups which are several years ahead of the RAN group. Within 802.11 there is no such separation or discipline. In addition, 802.11 is a bottom up group, whereas 3GPP is more of a bottom down organization.

20.14. A: I agree that 3GPP is much more disciplined than 802.11 and perhaps 802.11 should move in that direction.

20.15. C: The relationship between 802.11 and the Wi-Fi Alliance needs to be looked at as well. It’s only when an 802.11 draft has been initially approved that the Wi-Fi Alliance can start on their projects.

21. A possible way forward (11-18-1284r0)

21.1. Presentation about a new process for the 802.11 main amendments.21.2. C: This presentation (and the previous one) discuss focus and discipline, which is fine.

Regarding slide #4, the creating of an ad-hoc is really the same as a current study group. Originally WNG was a talking shop about kicking off study groups for the next amendments. Recently we’ve not been very disciplined with this approach. The problem in 802.11 is focus and discipline. Additionally, I don’t think this proposed process saves anything.

21.3. Chair: There will be more time on Friday for additional discussion on these general topics.

22. Working Group Motions (11-18-1059r2)

22.1. TGax PAR extension (slide #8)22.1.1. Chair: There are some changes that I made to this PAR, so the motion will be about 11-

18-0870r3. The changes update the number of meetings in the extension request. Additionally, some of the links in the PAR responses are added to list documents in the private area, which cannot be access by all members in other IEEE 802 working groups.

22.1.2. Approve TGax PAR extension request in 11-18/870r3.22.1.3. Moved: Stuart Kerry, 2nd: Ian Sherlock22.1.4. [TGax result (y/n/a): 57/0/0]22.1.5. For: 122, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes)

22.2. TGax revised CSD (slide #9)22.2.1. Approve TGax revised CSD in 11-14/0169r2.


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22.2.2. Moved: Al Petrick, 2nd: Jim Petranovich22.2.3. [TGax result (y/n/a): 58/0/0]22.2.4. For: 123, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes)

22.3. TGax PAR and CSD responses (slide #10)22.3.1. Approve TGax PAR and CSD responses in 11-18-870r322.3.2. Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: George Calcev22.3.3. [TGax result (y/n/a): 56/0/0]22.3.4. For: 120, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes)

22.4. TGax draft for sale (slide #11)22.4.1. Approve that Draft P802.11ax/D3.0 be made available for sale.22.4.2. Moved: Peter Ecclesine, 2nd: Lei Wang22.4.3. [TGax result (y/n/a): 58/0/0]22.4.4. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the motion was approved by unanimous

consent.

23. IEEE 802.11aj Recognition (11-18-1027r0)

23.1. Chair: This presentation is regarding the completion and publication of the IEEE 802.11aj project. Please note that photographs of presented awards will be taken once this meeting has recessed.

23.2. IEEE 802.11aj chair: I would to thank everyone in 802.11 for their assistance with this project and especially the fact that the 802.11 officers were willing to travel, organize and chair the additional 802.11 interim meetings for some of the 802.11aj work.

24. Recess

24.1. Meeting recessed at 12:22 PDT.


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Friday, 13th July 2018

IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary

Call to order at 08:03 PDT by Dorothy STANLEY (HPE).

139 people present in the room.

25. Agenda (11-18-1025r7)

25.1. Chair: Since the previous version, I’ve added various agenda items for this meeting and made some corrections. In addition, there are some new motions.

25.2. Move to approve the agenda in document 11-18-1025r725.3. No objection to the approval of the agenda by unanimous consent.

26. Call for Essential Patents

26.1. The meeting is still operating the P&Ps as described on Monday.26.2. Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA).26.3. No statements were made.26.4. The participation slide was also presented.

27. Announcements (11-18-1027r1)

27.1. Minutes and documents27.1.1. Please can everyone remember that minutes, should be completed within 30 days, once

the meeting is closed.

27.2. Preparation for September 201827.2.1. In preparation for the September 2018 meeting, there will be our usual CAC

teleconference meetings between now and that meeting, on Monday 6th August 2018 and Tuesday September 4th 2018 noon ET.

27.3. LoA (slide #14)27.3.1. Chair: There are 2 requests which are outstanding from Siemens and Communication

Systems LLC as shown on the slide.27.3.2. No questions

27.4. IEEE Store, ISO and press releases (slide #15, #16 and #17)27.4.1. Chair: Some of the drafts on the screen are rather out of date and this is being addressed.

In addition, some recent drafts will be sent to ISO.27.4.2. Chair: Information about some proposed Press releases are contained in slide #1727.4.3. Q: Why is TGbb having a blog, as opposed to a press release.27.4.4. Chair: This is a recommendation from IEEE staff. It appears to be a that a blog can

contain more information than that within a press release.27.4.5. Q: Is the IEEE keeping stats on who is reading the blog, as opposed to the press releases.


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27.4.6. Chair: I don’t know, but I’ll find out.28. Meeting Location

28.1. VC1: Can I have a show of hands to see who is in favor of returning to this location again?

28.2. For: 85, Against: 028.3. Like the social: 4328.4. Disliked the social: 128.5. Went to the social: 6628.6. Did not go to the social: 1828.7. No questions

29. Future Venues (11-18-1064r2 slide #30)

29.1. VC1: This slide shows where the next meetings are.29.2. The next plenary will be in November 2018 in Bangkok, Thailand.29.3. No questions

30. Treasurer’s Report (11-18-1065r0)

30.1. VC1: This is the current treasurer’s report. 30.2. This is the balance sheet to July 7th 2018.30.3. Q: What was the final registration for this meeting?30.4. A: Between 750 – 760.30.5. C: I’d like thank Jon Rosdahl for all your help with these figures and the hard work you do.

31. Timeline Update

31.1. There are changes to the following timelines: TGax, TGba and TGbb. The timeline chart will be updated shortly.

31.2. No questions

32. WG Committee Reports (11-18-1060r0)

32.1. Technical editor (slide #3)32.1.1. Please note the editor’s style guide and the rules on slide #13.32.1.2. The running order of the next forecasted drafts will be revisited in September 2018.32.1.3. No questions

32.2. AANI SC (slide #9)32.2.1. No questions

32.3. ARC SC (slide #15)32.3.1. Interesting discussion about TGba and there are now some technical questions that TGba

need to consider moving forward.32.3.2. No questions


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32.4. PAR SC (slide #21)32.4.1. VC1: These are the various comments compiled by IEEE 802.11 regarding the 4 PARs

from other IEEE 802 working groups this week. All of the comments were accepted (or caused a change in the relevant PAR) by the other groups.

32.4.2. No questions

32.5. Coex SC (slide #41)32.5.1. There is an important note regarding 11ax products in Europe on slide #42.32.5.2. The group also considered a future coexistence workshop with 3GPP RAN and have

created an invitation liaison, which will be considered later in this meeting. This is likely to be in either January or March 2019.


32.6. WNG SC (slide #47)32.6.1. There were 4 presentations this week for WNG SC:

32.6.1.1. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1210-00-0wng-a-resilient-mesh-for- dynamic-topologies.pptx, “A resilient mesh for dynamic topologies”

32.6.1.2. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1055-02-0wng-a-future-for- unlicensed-spectrum.pptx, “A Future For Unlicensed Spectrum”

32.6.1.3. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1234-00-0wng-real-time-mobile- game-vs-wi-fi.pptx, “Real-time Mobile Game vs Wi-Fi”

32.6.1.4. https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1160-00-0wng-controlling-latency- in-802-11.pptx, “Controlling latency in 802.11”


32.7. IEEE 802 JTC1 SC (slide #50)32.7.1. There may be a workshop in November 2018 with ISO SC6 regarding security issues.32.7.2. No questions

32.8. TGmd (slide #56)32.8.1. There will be an ad-hoc from July 31st – August 2nd 2018 in Portland, Oregon, USA.32.8.2. No questions

32.9. TGax (slide #61)32.9.1. There will be a September 5th – 7th ad-hoc in the Bay Area, California, USA.32.9.2. Q: regarding slide #64, the standards board does not meet in December 2019, so this

schedule needs to be pulled back by 45 days.32.9.3. A: Ok, it will be updated for the September 2018 meeting.

32.10. TGay (slide #67)32.10.1. No questions

32.11. TGaz (slide #72)32.11.1. No questions

32.12. TGba (slide #77)32.12.1. No questions


https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1160-00-0wng-controlling-latency-in-802-11.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1160-00-0wng-controlling-latency-in-802-11.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1234-00-0wng-real-time-mobile-game-vs-wi-fi.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1234-00-0wng-real-time-mobile-game-vs-wi-fi.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1055-02-0wng-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1055-02-0wng-a-future-for-unlicensed-spectrum.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1210-00-0wng-a-resilient-mesh-for-dynamic-topologies.pptx

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1210-00-0wng-a-resilient-mesh-for-dynamic-topologies.pptx

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32.13. TGbb (slide #82)32.13.1. This is the first time that TGbb met.32.13.2. No questions

32.14. Broadcast Services (BCS) SG (slide #89)32.14.1. Q: what are the current versions of the PAR and CSD?32.14.2. A: I’m not sure, but I’ll find out32.14.3. Chair: Please can you post links to these documents when you find out.32.14.4. A: Yes, this has been done.

32.15. Ethernet Cabling Requirements (ECR) TIG (slide #110)32.15.1. The group has now completed its work.32.15.2. Osama Aboul-Magd was thanked for leading this TIG this week.32.15.3. No questions

32.16. Extremely High Throughput (EHT) TIG (slide #97)32.16.1. Q: regarding the word “consensus” in this report, what does that mean?32.16.2. EHT TIG chair: The group held straw polls and the ones with the largest result

determined the consensus.32.16.3. Q: I don’t think there was consensus in this group and this should be reflected in this

report.32.16.4. EHT TIG chair: The motion for this meeting was the one that was decided by the TIG.32.16.5. Mike Montemurro was thanked for leading this TIG this week.32.16.6. No questions

32.17. Full Duplex (FD) TIG (slide #101)32.17.1. No questions

32.18. Next Generation V2X (NGV) SG (slide #105)32.18.1. No questions

33. Liaison Reports

33.1. IEEE 802.15 (11-18-1341r0)33.1.1. No questions


33.3. IEEE 802.18 (11-18-1060r0 slide #115)33.3.1. No questions



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33.6. IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN (11-18-1060 slide #130)33.6.1. Some OmniRAN members may come to the November 2018 meeting to request some

assistance with 802.11aq issues.33.6.2. Q: Are you still meeting independently of 802.1?33.6.3. A: We are meeting with 802.1 at the moment, because the 802.1 voting membership is

important for OmniRAN. OmniRAN hopes to attend a wireless interim at some point.33.6.4. No questions

34. Working Group Motions (11-18-1059r6)

34.1. Chair: we’re currently ahead of the schedule and we shall continue without a break at this point.

34.2. Liaison Officer Confirmation (slide #13)34.2.1. Move to confirm the following liaison officers: Ian Sherlock (Wi-Fi Alliance) Peter Yee (IETF) Jay Holcomb (802.18) Tuncer Baykas (802.19) Tim Godfrey (802.24)34.2.2. Moved: James Gilb, 2nd: Jim Petranovich34.2.3. Q: At the moment there is no IEEE 802.1 liaison and I think this is required.34.2.4. Chair: This can be considered offline.34.2.5. Following neither discussion nor dissent, the motion was approved by unanimous

consent.

34.3. TGaz Vice Chair (slide #14)34.3.1. Confirm Assaf Kasher as Vice Chair of TGaz34.3.2. Moved: Edward Au, 2nd: Jonathan Segev34.3.3. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

34.4. TGbb Vice Chairs (slide #15)34.4.1. Confirm Oliver Pengfei Luo and Tuncer Baykas as vice chairs for TGbb34.4.2. Moved: Ian Sherlock, 2nd: Lei Wang34.4.3. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

34.5. Teleconferences (slide #16)34.5.1. Move to approve the following teleconferences

Group Date(s) Start Duration

CAC Monday August 6, Tuesday September 4 Noon ET 1 hr

TGmd Fridays: July 27, August 10, 17, 24 10:00 ET 2 hr


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ARC With 10 days notice

TGaxThursdays: August 2, 16, 30Thursdays: July 26, August 9, 23, September 20

20:00 ET10:00 ET

2 hrs2 hrs

TGay Wednesday: September 5 10:00 ET 1.5 hrs

TGazAugust 22September 5

11:00 ET12:00 ET

1 hr1 hr

TGba

July 30August 13August 27

10:00 ET17:00 ET23:00 ET

1 hr1 hr1 hr

TGbb July 31, August 7, 14, 21, 28 09:00 ET 1 hrNGV July 31, August 21 10:00 ET 2 hrBCS Tuesdays: September 18, 25 10:00 ET 1 hrFD Wednesday August 8, Thursday August 30 10:00 ET 1.5 hr

34.5.2. Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: Michael Fischer34.5.3. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

34.6. Coex SC: Liaison to 3GPP RAN4 (slide #17)34.6.1. IEEE 802.11 WG approves the liaison in 18-11-1305r0 to 3GPP RAN434.6.2. [Note: equivalent motion passed 22/0/8 in the SC, Note: the WG Chair has editorial

license]34.6.3. Moved: Andrew Myles, 2nd: Stephen Palm34.6.4. For: 73, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)

34.7. Coex SC: Liaison inviting 3GPP RAN to a Coexistence Workshop (slide #18)34.7.1. IEEE 802.11 WG approves the liaison in 11-18-1327-02 inviting 3GPP RAN to a

Coexistence Workshop34.7.2. [Note: overwhelming straw poll approved a version that was later significantly

edited. Note: the WG Chair has editorial license]34.7.3. Moved: Andrew Myles, 2nd: Jim Petranovich34.7.4. Q: Is this is January or March 2019, would it be held at an IEEE 802.11 meeting.34.7.5. A: Yes, as last time this happened in 2015, IEEE 802.11 went to 3GPP.34.7.6. For: 68, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)

34.8. JTC1 Motion for 802.11 WG (slide #19)34.8.1. Request IEEE 802 EC approval to forward IEEE 802.11ak, IEEE 802.11aq and

IEEE 802.11aj to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 for information under the PSDO agreement34.8.2. [Note: the WG Chair will take to EC assuming the motion passes] 34.8.3. Moved: Andrew Myles, 2nd: Stephen McCann34.8.4. For: 62, Against: 0, Abstain: 1 (Motion passes)

34.9. TGax WBA liaison response (slide #20)


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34.9.1. Approve document 11-18/1291r2 as the liaison response to WBA and grant the WG chair editorial privilege

34.9.2. [TGax: Move: Youhan Kim, Second: George Cherian, Result: Y/N/A:33/0/3]34.9.3. Moved: Stephen Palm, 2nd: Rolf de Vegt34.9.4. For: 70, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)

34.10. TGax September ad-hoc (slide #21)34.10.1. Authorize TGax to hold an ad-hoc meeting on September 5-7 in the Bay Area for

the purpose of comment resolution.34.10.2. Note: PHY ad-hoc is meeting for only one day, Sept. 734.10.3. Moved: Yasu Inoue, 2nd: Bin Tian34.10.4. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

34.11. TGax PAR extension (slide #22)34.11.1. Approve TGax PAR extension request in 11-18/870r434.11.2. Chair: Please note that this an update from Wednesday’s motion, as there was a typo in

the earlier document.34.11.3. Moved: Yasu Inoue, 2nd: Lei Wang34.11.4. For: 86, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes)

34.12. TGay Coexistence Assurance Document (slide #23)34.12.1. Reaffirm doc 11-17/1288r2 as the Coexistence Assurance Document34.12.2. [TGay result: 27/0/2]34.12.3. Moved: Edward Au on behalf of TGay34.12.4. For: 62, Against: 0, Abstain: 8 (Motion passes)

34.13. TGay letter ballot (slide #24)34.13.1. Having approved changes to TGay draft D1.0, as defined in 11-18/0067r11 in

addition to motions passed during the 2018 July session, 34.13.2. Instruct the editor to prepare TGay draft D2.0, and 34.13.3. Approve a 30 day Working Group Technical Letter Ballot asking the question

"Should TGay Draft D2.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?"34.13.4. [TGay result: 31-0-0]34.13.5. Moved: Edward Au on behalf of TGay34.13.6. For: 61, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)

34.14. TGaz comment collection (slide #25)34.15. Move to: Instruct the technical editor to generate and publish IEEE P802.11az D0.4 based on

D0.3 and any amendment text adopted during the July meeting Initiate a 30 day comment collection on IEEE P802.11az D0.434.16. Moved: Jonathan Segev on behalf of TGaz34.17. [TG result (Y/N/A): 12/0/0]34.17.1. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

34.18. BCS SG first recharter (slide #26)34.18.1. Request the IEEE 802 LMSC to recharter the 802.11 BCS Study Group34.18.2. Moved: Marc Emmelmann, 2nd: Hitoshi Morioka


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34.18.3. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.34.18.4. For: 31, Against: 0, Abstain: 8 (Motion passes)

34.19. EHT SG formation (slide #27)34.19.1. Approve formation of an EHT SG (Extreme High Throughput Study Group) to

develop a Project Authorization Request (PAR) and a Criteria for Standards Development (CSD) for a new 802.11 amendment for operating in the bands between 1 to 7.125 GHz, with the primary objectives:

34.19.2. To increase peak throughput and improve efficiency34.19.3. To support high throughput and low latency applications such as video-over-

WLAN, gaming, AR and VR34.19.4. With target start of the task group in May 201934.19.5. [Straw Poll Result in EHT TIG: Do you support using the above text as the motion text

for EHT study group creation? Y 101 / N 40 / A 11]34.19.6. Moved: Vinko Erceg, 2nd: Ron Porat34.19.7. C: I’m completely happy with the motion, as the purpose of the study group is to

consider a PAR and CSD but it’s not a given. The motion wording doesn’t need to be changed, but I just wanted to mention that point.

34.19.8. C: I think we should move forward with this. However, the current scope is so broad as to be useless. I also maintain that there is no consensus on the definition of the scope. However, I will abstain on this motion.

34.19.9. C: I wish to abstain on this motion, as I don’t think enough time was spent on this topic.34.19.10. Chair: As this is a plenary, this study group will be formed either out of this July

meeting with EC approval, or at the next plenary in November. Therefore if not this week, a study group could only start in January 2019 at the earliest.

34.19.11. C: This seems to be just the normal thing that IEEE 802.11 does and does not reflect any new process. However, the motion does reflect the feelings of the EHT TIG.

34.19.12. C: If this motion fails, does the EHT TIG carry on?34.19.13. Chair: No. It will finish at this meeting.34.19.14. C: What is the relationship between the EHT and the RTA TIG, as both of these groups

could be meeting at the same time in September 2019.34.19.15. Chair: I think they have different scopes, so that’s not a problem.34.19.16. Motion to amend34.19.17. <text> [change May 2019 date from “to start” to “make a decision”]34.19.18. Moved: Peter Ecclesine, 2nd: Michael Fischer34.19.19. C: This change means that the SG will not start until 4 months later.34.19.20. C: I speak against this motion to amend, as any SG can only start in January 2019. I

think the date of May 2019 was reasonable.34.19.21. C: What does “target decision date” mean. Does this mean before May 2019?34.19.22. Chair: This is the latest date.34.19.23. C: I speak in favour of the motion. I would like to progress this activity and the broader

wording is ok at this stage.34.19.24. C: I speak against the motion to amend. I don’t think this change makes the motion any

clearer. I also think this slows down the process.34.19.25. For: 6, Against: 32, Abstain: 27 (Motion to amend fails)34.19.26. Back to the main motion34.19.27. For: 60, Against: 2, Abstain: 24 (Motion passes)34.19.28. Chair: I will appoint Mike Montemurro as chair of the EHT SG should it be approved

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34.20. NGV SG first recharter (slide #29)34.20.1. Request the IEEE 802 LMSC to recharter the 802.11 NGV Study Group34.20.2. Moved: Bo Sun, 2nd: Hongyuan Zhang34.20.3. For: 48, Against: 0, Abstain: 4 (Motion passes)

34.21. NGV liaison (slide #30)34.21.1. Move to approve the liaison in 11-18/1303r2, granting the working group chair

editorial privilege.34.21.2. [NGV SG: Move: Michael Fischer, Second: James Lepp Result: unanimous]34.21.3. Moved: Bo Sun, 2nd: Hongyuan Zhang34.21.4. For: 33, Against: 0, Abstain: 6 (Motion passes)

34.22. ECR report (slide #31)34.22.1. Approve the ECR report in 11-18/1124r334.22.2. Moved: Guido Hiertz, 2nd: Joe Levy34.22.3. For: 27, Against: 0, Abstain: 2 (Motion passes)

34.23. ETSI document access (slide #32)34.23.1. Approve extending the ETSI/IEEE joint development agreement to include the activities

in ETSI TC ITS34.23.2. Moved: Peter Ecclesine, 2nd: Assaf Kasher34.23.3. Q: What does this mean in practice?34.23.4. Chair: I will contact Jodi Haasz, to work out exactly what is required here.34.23.5. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

34.24. Real Time Applications (RTA) (slide #33)34.24.1. Approve formation of a Real Time Applications (RTA) TIG to investigate34.24.2. Latency and stability issues observed with real time applications such as mobile

and multiplayer games34.24.3. Potential mechanisms to address the identified issues34.24.4. The TIG is to complete a report on this topic at or before the November 2018

session. 34.24.5. Moved: Allan Jones, 2nd: Bo Sun34.24.6. For: 21, Against: 0, Abstain: 9 (Motion passes)34.24.7. Chair: I appoint Allan Jones as the chair of RTA TIG, subject to WG confirmation in

September.

35. Predicting timelines (11-18-1286r1)

35.1. Presentation about possible future timelines for 802.11ax and other 802.11 projects.35.2. C: This is good overview of what has occurred in the past. Regarding 11ax, there were offers

of ad-hoc meetings that were rejected at the earlier stages. If projects are urgent, this does seem very strange. Ad-hoc groups within a task group is a good idea, but then confirming their decisions in to the task group is a waste of time. The process must be parallelized. Regarding the SFD, it is indeed a waste of time.

35.3. C: I agree with your content, but not your conclusions. Creating ‘major’ and ‘minor’ amendments is not a good idea, as it sets bad habits within the whole of IEEE 802.11.


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35.4. C: This presentation shows our problems with ‘scope bloat’ and this is now true of the EHT TIG. Regarding the SFD, this should be looking at simulation and justification text, as opposed to early specification text.

35.5. C: On slide #10, the TG was formed after 10 months. A lot of time was indeed spent on the SFD. To ensure quality control, I think the SFD is important for a PHY project, whereas for a MAC project like 11aq, it’s not necessary.

35.6. C: I don’t think we need to accelerate the process, it’s more doing things in parallel. That’s the change that some of us are looking for.

35.7. C: Serializing may be the only way. The work is dependent on how people discipline ourselves. Regarding the SFD, once it’s finished and approved; it is thrown away. Most 802.11 task groups spend 18 months moving from 75% - 90+% to move from letter ballot to sponsor ballot. This is also true of sponsor ballot, where we try to achieve 98% approval rates. Perhaps these thresholds can be re-visited. Within TGai, there was a very formalized SFD process which was unnecessary.

35.8. C: In 2014, the TIGs were introduced because addressing projects in WNG was not working. I think that the TIGs are working well. In addition, the maintenance activity does not slip its timeline. This implies that the task group scope document is very important.

35.9. C: This is an SDO, it is not a technology development organization. We are good at doing standardization. However, we are not good at developing technology itself. It’s the “working out what we want to do” that is a problem.

35.10. C: Thank you for all the comments and I’d like to carry this forward to another meeting.

36. Wireless Chairs Meeting (11-18-1027r1 slide #18)

36.1. Chair: This will be at 4pm on the Sunday September 9th 2018. If you are interested in the activities of the IEEE 802 wireless WGs, please come along.

36.2. Chair: Please remember that the next interim meeting is at the Hilton Waikoloa Village, Hawaii, USA. Hotel reservations and meeting registrations are now open.

36.3. Chair: If you have a colleague from TGaj who received an award and they are not here this week, please can you make yourself known.

36.4. C: Please note that the policies and procedures are being updated. It’s EC document ec-18-0104-01-0PNP-proposed-802-wg-pnp.doc, if you are interested as changes to minute taking will be occurring.

37. Adjournment

37.1. Chair: having exhausted the agenda, the meeting is adjourned.37.2. The meeting adjourned at 11:44 PDT


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Annex A: Attendance & Affiliation

Name Affiliation Attended >= 75%? Status

Abouelseoud, Mohamed Sony Corporation Yes Voter

Aboulmagd, Osama Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Adachi, Tomoko TOSHIBA Corporation Yes Voter

Adhikari, Shubhodeep Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Agarwal, Peyush Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Ahn, Jinsoo Yonsei University Yes Voter

Ahn, Woojin WILUS Yes Voter

Aldana, Carlos Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Alex, Sam Facebook No Non-Voter

Alfvin, Richard Linespeed Events LLC No Non-Voter

An, Song-Haur INDEPENDENT Yes Voter

Andersdotter, Amelia Article 19 Yes Voter

Andonieh, Joe Peraso Technologies Incorporated Yes Aspirant

Ansley, Carol ARRIS Group Yes Voter

Arokkiam, Jerome OSRAM GmbH Yes Aspirant

Arrington, Arthur Air Network Solutions Yes Voter

Asterjadhi, Alfred Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Au, Kwok Shum Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Azizi, Shahrnaz Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Baer, Bernd Marquardt No Non-Voter

Baeten, Robert Qorvo Yes Voter

Baik, Eugene Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Bajko, Gabor MediaTek Inc. Yes Potential Voter

bang, saehee LG ELECTRONICS Yes Aspirant


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baron, stephane Canon Research Centre France Yes Voter

Batra, Anuj Apple, Inc. Yes Voter

Baykas, Tuncer Istanbul Medipol University No Voter

Berens, Friedbert FBConsulting Sarl Yes Voter

Berger, Christian Marvell Yes Voter

Berkema, Alan HP Inc. Yes Potential Voter

Bhandaru, Nehru Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Boldy, David Broadcom Corporation Yes Aspirant

Bolotin, Ilya Intel Yes Voter

Bredewoud, Albert Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Buffington, John Itron Inc. Yes Voter

Calcev, George Huawei R&D USA Yes Voter

Canchi, Radhakrishna Kyocera International, Inc. Yes Potential Voter

Cao, Rui Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Cariou, Laurent Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Carney, William Sony Corporation Yes Voter

Cavalcanti, Dave Intel Corporation Yes Aspirant

Cepni, Gurkan Apple, Inc. Yes Aspirant

Cha, Jaesang SNUT Yes Potential Voter

Chang, Soo-Young California State University, Sacramento (CSUS) Yes Voter

Chen, Cheng Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Chen, Jiamin HUAWEI Yes Voter

Chen, Xiaogang Intel Corporation Yes Voter

CHERIAN, GEORGE Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Cherniavsky, Dmitry SiBEAM, Inc. Yes Voter


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Chitrakar, Rojan Panasonic Asia Pacific Pte Ltd. Yes Voter

Cho, Hangyu lg electronics Yes Potential Voter

Choi, Jaehyuk Gachon University No Non-Voter

Choi, Jinsoo LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Chu, Liwen Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Coffey, John Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Yes Voter

Cordeiro, Carlos Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Correll, Perry Aerohive Networks Yes Voter

Costa, D.Nelson Peraso Technologies Incorporated Yes Voter

Cragie, Robert ARM, Ltd. Yes Aspirant

da Silva, Claudio Intel Corporation Yes Voter

D'Acierno, Alessandro Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd No Non-Voter

Das, Dibakar Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Dash, Debashis Quantenna Communications, Inc. Yes Aspirant

Dauphinee, Leonard MaxLinear Corp Yes Aspirant

Dave, Brajesh Quantenna Communications, Inc. Yes Voter

de la Garrigue, Michael Xirrus No Non-Voter

de Vegt, Rolf Qualcomm Incorporated No Voter

DeLaOlivaDelgado, Antonio Universidad Carlos III Madrid No Non-Voter

Derham, Thomas Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Dong, Xiandong Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Ecclesine, Peter Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes Voter

Eitan, Alecsander Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Emmelmann, Marc Self Employed / Koden-TI Yes Voter

Erceg, Vinko Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter


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Fan, Xiaojing Fujitsu Research & Development Center No Non-Voter

Fang, Ping Huawei Device Co. Ltd Yes Aspirant

Fazel, Fatemeh Intel Corporation Yes Aspirant

Finn, Norman Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd No Voter

Fischer, Matthew Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Fischer, Michael NXP Semiconductors Yes Voter

Fletcher, Paul Samsung Cambridge Solution Center Yes Voter

Foland, Jeremy Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Friedrichs, Eike OSRAM GmbH Yes Aspirant

Furuichi, Sho Sony Corporation Yes Voter

Gan, Ming Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Ghosh, Chittabrata Intel Yes Voter

Gilb, James General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc.; University of San Diego; Gilb Consulting, Inc. Yes ExOfficio

Godbole, sachin Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Godfrey, Tim Electric Power Research Institute, Inc. (EPRI) No ExOfficio

Grandhe, Niranjan Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Griffiths, Scott No Non-Voter

Grigat, Michael Deutsche Telekom AG Yes Voter

Grow, Robert Intel Corporation No Non-Voter

Guo, Qiang Huawei R&D USA Yes Voter

Guo, Yuchen Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Hamilton, Mark Ruckus Wireless Yes Voter

HAN, CHONG pureLiFi Yes Aspirant

HAN, Xiao Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Handte, Thomas Sony Corporation Yes Voter


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Hansen, Christopher Covariant Corporation Yes Voter

Haran, Onn Autotalks No Non-Voter

Harkins, Daniel Aruba Networks, Inc. Yes Voter

Hartman, Chris Apple, Inc. No Voter

Heberling, Allen Tensorcom, Inc. Yes Voter

Henry, Jerome Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes Aspirant

hervieu, Lili Cable Television Laboratories Inc. (CableLabs) Yes Voter

Hiertz, Guido Ericsson AB Yes Voter

Ho, Duncan Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Holcomb, Jay Itron Inc. No ExOfficio

Holland, Oliver King's College London No Non-Voter

Hong, Hanseul Yonsei University Yes Voter

Hsu, Chien-Fang MediaTek Inc. Yes Voter

Hu, Chunyu Broadcom Corporation No Voter

Hu, Glenn Tencent Yes Aspirant

Huang, Lei Panasonic Asia Pacific Pte Ltd. Yes Voter

Huang, Po-Kai Intel Corporation Yes Voter

HUANG, YUN-LIANG MediaTek Inc. Yes Potential Voter

Hunter, David Timefactor Yes Aspirant

Hurtarte, Jeorge Teradyne, Inc. Yes Aspirant

Hwang, Sung Hyun Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI) Yes Voter

Inoue, Yasuhiko Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT) Yes Voter

Ishizu, Kentaro National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT) Yes Potential Voter

Jacobs, Darnell US Department of Defense No Non-Voter


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Jang, Insun LG ELECTRONICS Yes Potential Voter

Jauh, Alan Spreadtrum Comm. Yes Voter

Jeffries, Timothy Huawei R&D USA Yes Voter

Ji, Chenhe Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd Yes Voter

Jia, Jia Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd Yes Voter

jiang, feng Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Jiang, Jinjing Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Jones, Allan Activision Yes Voter

Jones, Chad No Non-Voter

JONES, JEFFRUM Qorvo, Inc Yes Voter

Jones, Peter Cisco Systems, Inc. No Non-Voter

Jones, Vincent Knowles IV Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Jungnickel, Volker Fraunhofer HHI Yes Voter

Kain, Carl Noblis, Inc. Yes Voter

Kakani, Naveen Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Kalhan, Amit KYOCERA Corporation Yes Potential Voter

KANG, Kyu-Min ETRI Yes Aspirant

Kasher, Assaf Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Kecicioglu, Balkan Cable Television Laboratories Inc. (CableLabs) No Non-Voter

Kennedy, Smith HP Inc. No Non-Voter

Kenney, John TOYOTA InfoTechnology Center U.S.A. Yes Potential Voter

Kerry, Stuart OK-Brit Yes Voter

Kershaw, David Intel Corporation Yes Aspirant

Khalid, Ihtisham Article 19 Yes Voter

Khericha, samir Broadcom Corporation Yes Potential Voter


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Kim, Jeong Gon Korea Polytechnic University (KPU) Yes Voter

Kim, Jeongki LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Kim, Jin Min LG ELECTRONICS No Voter

Kim, Namgi Kyonggi University No Non-Voter

Kim, Sang Gook LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Kim, Suhwook LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Kim, Yongho Korea National University of Transportation Yes Voter

Kim, Youhan Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Kim, Youn-Kwan The Catholic University of Korea Yes Voter

Kitazawa, Shoichi Muroran IT No Non-Voter

Klein, Arik Intel Yes Aspirant

KNECKT, JARKKO Apple, Inc. Yes Voter

Kondo, Yoshihisa Advanced Telecommunications Research Institute International (ATR) No Non-Voter

Krieger, Ann US Department of Defense No Non-Voter

kristem, vinod Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Kumar, Manish Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Lalam, Massinissa SAGEMCOM SAS Yes Voter

Lan, Zhou Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Lee, Hyeong Ho Netvision Telecom Inc. Yes Aspirant

Lee, Jae Seung ETRI Yes Voter

Lee, Wookbong SAMSUNG Yes Voter

Leicht, Suzanne National Security Agency Yes Voter

Lepp, James BlackBerry Yes Voter

Levy, Joseph InterDigital, Inc. Yes Voter

Li, Guoqing Apple, Inc. No Voter


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Li, Qiang HUAWEI Yes Voter

Li, Qinghua Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Li, Yanchun Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Li, Zhiqiang Institute of Microelectronics, Chinese Academy Sciences No Non-Voter

Lim, Dong Guk LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Lin, Wei Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Liu, Der-Zheng Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Yes Voter

Liu, Jianhan MediaTek Inc. Yes Voter

Liu, Pei HiSilicon Technologies Co., LTD. No Non-Voter

Liu, Yong Apple, Inc. Yes Voter

Loc, Peter Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Loghin, Nabil Sony Corporation Yes Aspirant

Lopez, Miguel Ericsson AB Yes Voter

Lopez-Perez, David Nokia Yes Aspirant

Lou, Hui-Ling Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Luo, Pengfei Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd Yes Voter

Lv, Kaiying ZTE Corporation Yes Voter

Lv, Lily Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Lynch, Bradley Peraso Technologies Incorporated No Non-Voter

Lynch, Michael MJ Lynch & Associates, LLC. No Non-Voter

Ma, Jing National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT) Yes Voter

Ma, Mengyao HUAWEI Yes Voter

Madan, Nitin Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Madpuwar, Girish Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter


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Malinen, Jouni Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Maltsev, Alexander Intel Yes Voter

MARIAPPAN, VINAYAGAM SNUT Yes Aspirant

Marks, Roger EthAirNet Associates; Huawei No ExOfficio

Mccann, Stephen BlackBerry Yes Voter

McMillan, Larry Western Digital Corporation No Non-Voter

Mcnew, Justin Kapsch TrafficCom AG No Non-Voter

Meng, Xing Tencent Yes Aspirant

Merlin, Simone Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Mo, Jianhua Samsung Research America Yes Voter

Mohanty, Bibhu Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Monajemi, Pooya Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes Voter

Montag, Bruce Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Yes Voter

Montemurro, Michael BlackBerry Yes Voter

Morioka, Hitoshi SRC Software Yes Voter

Motozuka, Hiroyuki Panasonic Corporation Yes Voter

Mueller, Robert Ilmenau University of Technology - TU Ilmenau Yes Voter

Murakami, Yutaka Panasonic Corporation Yes Voter

Myles, Andrew Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes Voter

Nagai, Yukimasa Mitsubishi Electric Corporation Yes Voter

Nandagopalan, SAI SHANKAR Cypress Semiconductor Corporation Yes Voter

Nguyen, An U.S. Department of Homeland Security Yes Potential Voter

Noh, Yujin Newracom Inc. Yes Voter

Notor, John Notor Research Yes Voter

Oh, Minseok Kyonggi University No Voter


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Olaziregi, Nikolas Nokia Yes Potential Voter

Oteri, Oghenekome InterDigital, Inc. Yes Voter

Palm, Stephen Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Pandi, Sreekrishna Technical University of of Dresden Yes Aspirant

Pare, Thomas MediaTek Inc. Yes Aspirant

Park, Eunsung LG Electronics Yes Voter

Park, JaeCheol Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI) Yes Aspirant

Park, Sung-jin LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Patil, Abhishek Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Patwardhan, Gaurav Hewlett Packard Enterprise Yes Voter

Petranovich, James ViaSat, Inc. Yes Voter

petrick, Albert Jones-Petrick and Associates, LLC. Yes Voter

Petry, Brian Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Polland, Joe CommScope No Non-Voter

porat, ron Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Pulikkoonattu, Rethnakaran Broadcom Corporation No Voter

Qi, Emily Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Raissinia, Alireza Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Aspirant

Ranganath, Ashok SAMSUNG Yes Voter

Regev, Alon Keysight Technologies Yes Potential Voter

Reilly, Denis Spectracom (Orolia USA) No Non-Voter

Riegel, Maximilian Nokia Networks Yes Voter

Rison, Mark Samsung Cambridge Solution Centre Yes Voter

Rosdahl, Jon Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. Yes Voter

Ryan, Stuart Blu Wireless Technology Ltd. Yes Aspirant


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Ryu, Kiseon LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Sadeghi, Bahareh Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Sahin, Alphan InterDigital, Inc. Yes Voter

Sahin, Onur InterDigital, Inc. Yes Aspirant

Sakamoto, Takenori Panasonic Corporation Yes Voter

Sakoda, Kazuyuki Sony Corporation Yes Voter

Sampath, Ashwin Mixcomm Inc. No Non-Voter

Sampath, Hemanth Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Sand, Stephan German Aerospace Center (DLR) Yes Potential Voter

Sarris, Ioannis u-blox No Aspirant

Sato, Naotaka Sony Corporation Yes Voter

Schaefer, Ralf OLEDCOMM Yes Aspirant

Schafman, Limor Telecommunications Industry Association (TIA) No Non-Voter

Schelstraete, Sigurd Quantenna Communications, Inc. Yes Voter

Scott, Andy NCTA Yes Voter

Segev, Jonathan Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Seok, Yongho MediaTek Inc. Yes Voter

Serafimovski, Nikola pureLiFi Yes Potential Voter

Sharma, Prashant Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Aspirant

Shellhammer, Stephen Qualcomm Incorporated No ExOfficio

Sherlock, Ian Texas Instruments Incorporated Yes Voter

Shilo, Shimi HUAWEI Yes Voter

Shim, Seonggu Telecommunications Technology Association (TTA) No Non-Voter

Smith, Graham SR Technologies Yes Voter

Song, Taewon LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter


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Sowter, Paul Anritsu Company Yes Potential Voter

Stacey, Robert Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Stanley, Dorothy Hewlett Packard Enterprise Yes Voter

Stavridis, Athanasios Ericsson AB Yes Potential Voter

Stott, Noel Keysight Technologies Yes Voter

Strauch, Paul Cypress Semiconductor Corporation Yes Aspirant

Sumi, Takenori Mitsubishi Electric Corporation Yes Voter

Sun, Bo ZTE Corporation Yes Voter

Sun, Chen Sony Corporation Yes Potential Voter

Sun, Li-Hsiang InterDigital, Inc. Yes Voter

Sun, Yanjun Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Szymanski, Christopher Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Takai, Mineo Space-Time Engineering Yes Voter

Taneja, Mukesh Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes Voter

Tarighat, Alireza Facebook Yes Potential Voter

Tellas, Ronald Belden No Non-Voter

Therrien, Scott Teradyne, Inc. Yes Aspirant

Thompson, Ryan eero No Non-Voter

Tian, Bin Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Tian, Tao Spreadtrum Communications, Inc. Yes Voter

Torab, Payam Facebook Yes Voter

Trainin, Solomon Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Tsodik, Genadiy Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Urabe, Yoshio Panasonic Corporation Yes Voter

V Padaki, Aditya Samsung Research America Yes Potential Voter


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Valentino, Liva Skyworks Solutions Inc. Yes Aspirant

Van Nee, Richard Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Vanthournout, Jerome CEVA-DSP Yes Voter

Varshney, Prabodh Nokia Yes Voter

Venkatesan, Ganesh Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Verma, Lochan Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

Verma, Sindhu Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Vermani, Sameer Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

VIGER, Pascal Canon Research Centre France Yes Voter

Wang, Chao Chun MediaTek Inc. Yes Voter

Wang, Haiming Southeast University, China No Voter

Wang, Hao Fujitsu Research & Development Center No Non-Voter

Wang, Huizhao Quantenna Communications, Inc. Yes Voter

Wang, James June MediaTek Inc. Yes Voter

Wang, Lei Huawei R&D USA Yes Voter

Wang, Qi Apple, Inc. Yes Voter

Wang, Xiaofei InterDigital, Inc. Yes Voter

Wang, Xuehuan Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Want, Roy Google Yes Voter

Ward, Lisa Rohde & Schwarz Yes Voter

Wechsler, Johannes Fraunhofer Institute for Integrated Circuits IIS No Non-Voter

Wendt, Matthias Signify Yes Aspirant

Wentink, Menzo Qualcomm Yes Voter

Wilhelmsson, Leif Ericsson AB Yes Voter

Wu, Jianbing SHEN ZHEN ITEST TECH CO.,LTD Yes Voter


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Wu, John Microsemi Corporation Yes Aspirant

Wu, Tianyu Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. Yes Voter

Wunderlich, Simon TU Dresden No Non-Voter

Xin, Yan Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Xue, Qi Qualcomm Incorporated Yes Voter

YAGHOOBI, HASSAN Intel Corporation Yes Voter

Yang, Bo Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

YANG, RUI InterDigital, Inc. Yes Voter

Yang, Xun Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Yang, Yunsong Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Yano, Kazuto Advanced Telecommunications Research Institute International (ATR) Yes Voter

Yee, Peter NSA-Cybersecurity Yes Voter

Young, Christopher Broadcom Corporation Yes Voter

Yseboodt, Lennart Signify No Non-Voter

Yu, Chinghwa Spreadtrum Comm. Yes Aspirant

Yu, Jian Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Yu, Mao Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Yun, SunWoong LG ELECTRONICS Yes Voter

Zeleznikar, Alan ARRIS Group Yes Voter

Zhang, Hongyuan Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

ZHANG, JIAYIN Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Zhang, Xingxin Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter

Zheng, Xiayu Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes Voter

Zhou, Richard (Yujia) Charter Communications No Non-Voter

Zhu, Chunhui Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd Yes Voter


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Zhuo, Lan CESI Group No Voter

Zuniga, Juan Carlos SIGFOX Yes Potential Voter


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Annex B : Working Group Officers

Working group

Name (Affiliation) Position Contact DetailsDorothy V. Stanley(HPE)

IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair

+1 (630) [email protected]

Jon Rosdahl(Qualcomm)

1st Vice Chair (Venues and meeting planning)Treasurer


Robert StaceyIntel Corporation

2nd Vice Chair (Rules and reflectors) +1 (503) 724-0893

[email protected]

Stephen McCann(BlackBerry Ltd.) Secretary +44 1753 667099

[email protected]

Peter Ecclesine(Cisco Systems, Inc.) Co-Technical Editor +1 (408) 527-0815

[email protected] Robert Stacey(Intel Corporation)

Co-Technical Editor802.11 Assigned Numbers AuthorityIEEE 802 (LMSC) EC delegate

+1 (503) 712 [email protected]

Standing Committees

Name (Affiliation) Position Contact DetailsJim Lansford(Qualcomm)

Wireless Next Generation Chair(WNG)


Joseph Levy (InterDigital Communications Inc.)

Advanced Access Network Interface (AANI) Chair

+1.631.622.4139 [email protected]

Mark Hamilton(Ruckus Wireless)

Architecture Chair(ARC)


Andrew Myles(Cisco Systems, Inc.)

ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC6 shadow committee (JTC1) Chair

+61 418 [email protected]

Jon Rosdahl (Qualcomm) PAR Review SC Chair +1 (801) 492-4023

[email protected] Andrew Myles(Cisco)

Coexistence Standing Committee Chair


Task Groups


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Name (Affiliation) Position Contact DetailsStephen McCann(Blackberry Ltd.)

TGaq Chair(Pre-association Discovery)


Osama Aboul-Magd(Huawei)

TGax Chair(High Efficiency WLAN)


Edward Au (Huawei) TGay Chair (Next Generation 60GHz)

+1 (773) 782 [email protected]

Jonathan Segev (Intel Corporation)

TGaz Chair(Next Generation Positioning)

[email protected]

Minyoung Park (Samsung Semiconductor Inc.)

TGba Chair(Wake Up Radio)

[email protected]

Nikola Serafimovski (pureLiFi)

TGbb Chair(Light Communications)

+44 131 516 [email protected]

Dorothy V. Stanley(HPE)

TGmd Chair(802.11 revision project - P802.11REVmd)


Study Groups (SGs) and Topic Interest Groups (TIGs)

Name (Affiliation) Position Contact DetailsMarc Emmelmann (Koden-TI)

Broadcast Services (BCS) SG chair

[email protected]

Michael Montemurro(Blackberry)

Extremely High Throughput (EHT) Topic Interest Group Chair

[email protected]

James P. K. Gilb(General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Inc., University of San Diego, Gilb Consulting)

Full Duplex (FD) Topic Interest Group Chair

+1 [email protected]

Bo Sun (ZTE) Next Generation V2X (NGV) Study Group Chair [email protected]

Liaison Officials to non IEEE-802 organizations

Name (Affiliation) Position Contact Details

Peter Yee (Akayla)Liaison to IETF(Internet Engineering Task Force)

[email protected]








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Ian Sherlock(Texas Instruments Inc.)

Liaison to WFA(Wi-Fi Alliance)


Liaison Officials to IEEE-802 organizations

Name (Affiliation) Position Contact Details

Juan-Carlos Zuniga (InterDigital Communications)

Liaison to IEEE 802E [email protected]

Jay Holcomb(Itron) Liaison to IEEE 802.18 +1 (509) 891-3281

[email protected] Tim Godfrey(Electric Power Research Institute)

Liaison to IEEE 802.24 +1 (650) 855-8584 (office)[email protected]

Tuncer Baykas(Istanbul Medipol University)

Liaison to IEEE 802.19 [email protected]







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Annex C : Minutes

This Annex contains references to all IEEE 802.11 SC/TG/SG/TIG minutes from this meeting. Please note that they are NOT subject to the approval of these minutes, but are confirmed and approved by their individual group in the opening meeting at their next session.

WG TE 18-1089r1TGMD TG 18-1066r0TGAX TG 18-1093r0TGAY TG 18-1318r0TGAZ TG 18-1262r1TGBA TG 18-1355r1TGBB TG 18-1251r4ARC SC 18-1xxxr0WNG SC 18-1279r0JTC1 SC 18-1xxxr0EHT SG 18-1332r0

PAR Review SC 18-1245r0AANI SC 18-1264r1Coex SC 18-1333r0BCS TIG 18-1253r0FD TIG 18-1348r0

NGV SG 18-1308r1ECR Ad-Hoc 18-1331r0

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