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Deutsche Bank

Deutsche BankStefan KrauseStefan Krause

Chief Financial OfficerC e a c a O ce

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Deutsche Bank German and Austrian ConferenceDeutsche Bank German and Austrian ConferenceFrankfurt, 20 May 2010Frankfurt, 20 May 2010

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Agenda

1 A strong start to 2010: 1Q Highlights

2 Implementing Phase 4 of our management agenda

3 Key current issues

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First quarter 2010: Highlights

Income before income taxes (in EUR bn) 2 81 8

1Q2009 1Q2010

Profitability

Income before income taxes (in EUR bn)

Net income (in EUR bn)

Pre-tax RoE (target definition)(1)

2.8

1.8

30%

1.8

1.2

25%

11 2%12 6%Ti 1 it l ti

31 Dec2009

31 Mar2010

Capital11.2%

32.8

12.6%

34.4

Tier 1 capital ratio

Tier 1 capital (in EUR bn)

Core Tier 1 capital ratio 8.7% 7.5%p ( )

Balance sheet 978891Total assets (U.S. GAAP pro-forma, in EUR bn)

Total assets (IFRS, in EUR bn) 1,6701,501

2323Leverage ratio (target definition)(2)sheet ( p )

(1) Based on average active equity

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(1) Based on average active equity(2) Total assets based on U.S. GAAP pro-forma divided by total equity per target definition

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The first quarter in historical contextI EUR bIn EUR bnNet revenues Income before income taxes

9.6 9.0 3.2

6.2 6.6

8.0 7.2

1 6 1.8

2.6

1.8

2.8

5.0 4.6

0.2

1.6

(0.3)

‘03 ‘04 ‘05 ‘06 ‘07 ‘08 ‘09

1Q

‘03 ‘04 ‘05 ‘06 ‘07 ‘08 ‘09

1Q

‘10 ‘10

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Note: 2003-2005 based on U.S. GAAP reported figures, 2006 onwards based on IFRS reported figures

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Strong sales and trading revenues; reduced legacy effectsI EUR bIn EUR bn

Mark-downsSpecific item

Net revenues

0 30.3 1.0

0.1 (1)0.4

4.7 4.0 3.5 3.1

1.9

0.2 (2)

1Q

2010

1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q

2009

(1) Charges related to Ocala Funding LLC of approx. EUR 350 m(2) Includes net effect of losses related to write downs on specific risks in our structured credit business of approx EUR 300 m offset by net mark ups of EUR 263 m

20102009

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(2) Includes net effect of losses related to write-downs on specific risks in our structured credit business of approx. EUR 300 m, offset by net mark-ups of EUR 263 m (mainly monolines)

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Global Markets 1Q2010 vs. 1Q2007: A tale of two cities

Similar top line revenue performance . . . . . . using significantly lower resources

(26%)(47%)

1Q2010 vs. 1Q20071Q2010 vs. Peak

U.S. GAAP pro-formaassets

S&T revenues, in EUR mp g g y

(2)

5,068 4 746

n.a.

3%

(47%)

(38%)

assets

Level 3 assets

RWA5,068 4,746 3%

(22%)

(35%)

(38%)

RWA

VaR

1Q2007 1Q2010

(93%)

(50%)

(95%)

(69%)

Prop trading notionalcapitalStress loss(1) (3)

(3%)

(69%)

(25%) Headcount(1) 1Q2007 based on structure as of 2008(2) Peak refers to highest level during the period 3Q2007 to 4Q2009(3) Maximum potential loss across all risk typesNote: S&T revenues differ from Global Markets revenues due to some revenue

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Note: S&T revenues differ from Global Markets revenues due to some revenue reallocation between GM and GB

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Reduced provisioning for credit lossesI EURIn EUR m

Related to IAS 39 reclassified assets

1,000(50)%

262

526 544 560

159

262

308492

329 249

1Q1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q

Thereof: CIB

1Q

2010

1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q

2009

Thereof: PCAM

357 779 323 357 90

169 221 214 201 173

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Note: Divisional figures do not add up due to omission of Corporate Investments; figures may not add up due to rounding differences

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Tier 1 capital remains well above target

11 011.7

12.611.211.2

Tier 1 ratio: (117) bps(1)

10.211.0 11.2

8.7

Target: ≥10%

7.17.8 8.1

7.57.5

RWA: EUR 17 bn316 295 288 273 292

RWA: EUR 17 bn

1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q 1Q

2009 2010

Note: Core Tier 1 ratio = Tier 1 capital less hybrid Tier 1 capital divided by RWAs

Core Tier 1 ratio, in %Tier 1 ratio, in % RWA, in EUR bn Sal. Oppenheim Group impact

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Note: Core Tier 1 ratio = Tier 1 capital less hybrid Tier 1 capital divided by RWAs(1) Includes Tier 1 capital deduction (including goodwill and other intangibles) of EUR 1.3 bn and EUR 17 bn RWA

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PCAM: Strengthened franchise with invested assets over EUR 1 tEUR 1 trnIn EUR bn

880 9 21 19

78

(2)

1,005

EUR 125 bnEUR 125 bn

31 Dec 2009 NNM FX Market appreciation

Sal. Oppenheimacquisition

Other 31 Mar 2010

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acquisition

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Sal. Oppenheim: Dedicated strategy for each business ti itactivity

Cluster 1 Cluster 2 Cluster 3 Cluster 4

Wealth ManagementWealth Management Germany

WM GER + AM GER/LUX

Select WM / AMinternational activities

Other business

Switzerland IB

Asset Management

Corporate Banking/ Financial Markets/

Germany

Asset Management Germany/Lux

Austria

Luxembourg

Other (BAS, SGG, Alternative

investments, etc.)Financial Markets/

OtherSOPEP

OVAM

Refine value proposition / platform Integrate / Align Reposition / integrate

dispose / wind-down Strategic options

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BAS = BHF Asset Servicing, SOPEP = Sal. Oppenheim Private Equity Partners, SGG = Services Generaux de Gestion, OVAM = Oppenheim Versicherungs AM GmbH

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Sal. Oppenheim: Asset base

ObservationsInvested assets development Sal. Oppenheim Group(1)

1

15

4

8

45103 105

127

ObservationsInvested assets development Sal. Oppenheim GroupIn EUR bn — Invested assets have

grown with only marginal net outflows(2) (2)

9 9 9

1

142

(3)

2

(1)34 38

45

WM foreign

IB, SOPEP, OVAM & other

BHF

marginal net outflows— Invested assets of

core proposition(5)

overall broadly stable

(4)

26 24 25

32 33 34

9 9

Sal. Opp. WM

gentitiesSal. Opp. Institutional

y— OVAM first time

integrated with invested assets of

26 24 25Sal. Opp. WM Germany

Cl t 1 Cl t 2 Cl t 3 Cl t 4

Dec 2008

Δ NNM Δ Adjust-ments(3)

Δ Market Dec 2009

Δ NNM Δ Adjust-ments(3)

Δ Market Mar 2010

EUR 12 bn in 1Q2010

Note: Invested assets of cluster 1 and 2 allocated to PWM; SOPEP = Sal. Oppenheim Private Equity Partners, OVAM = Oppenheim Versicherungs AM GmbH(1) Invested assets according to DB definition(2) Excludes OVAM EUR 12 bn invested assets(3) Acquisitions, disposals and reclassifications(4) 1 January 31 March 2010

Cluster 1 Cluster 2 Cluster 3 Cluster 4

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(4) 1 January – 31 March 2010(5) Wealth Mgt. Germany, Asset Mgt. Germany/Luxembourg, Wealth and Asset Mgt. Switzerland, Austria and Luxembourg

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PWM and Sal. Oppenheim: Benefits, synergies and outlook

— Undisputed leadership in Private Wealth Management in Germany

C l t li t fil ti l l i th UHNWI li t t

Strategic impact

— Complementary client profile, particularly in the UHNWI client segment

— Second wealth management proposition with strong brand complementing business portfolio at the top end of the market

— Expansion of Deutsche Bank’s non-investment banking activities

— Diversification of Deutsche Bank’s earnings mix

Financial — Short-term (2010 / 2011) significant impact from integration and exit costs, including

severanceimpact / Outlook — Positive contribution from 2012 onwards

— Substantial upside potential

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Agenda

1 A strong start to 2010: 1Q Highlights

2 Implementing Phase 4 of our management agenda

3 Key current issues

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Well placed to deliver on Phase 4

Management Agenda Phase 4

2009 – 2011

Focus on core PCAM businessesand home market leadership

Increase CIB profitability with renewed risk and balance sheet discipline and home market leadershiprisk and balance sheet discipline

Focus on Asia as a key driver Reinvigorate ourFocus on Asia as a key driverof revenue growth

Reinvigorate our performance culture

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Phase 4: Financial potential

Phase 4 potential 2011Phase 4 potential 2011

Revenue growth p.a. ~ 8%

form

ance Income before income taxes, in EUR bn(1) ~ 10.0

Per

f

Return on Equity(2)

Cost / income ratio

25% over-the-cycle

~ 65%

train

ts Tier 1 ratio ≥10%

Con

st

Leverage(3) ≤25x

(1) Before Corporate Investments and Consolidations & Adjustments

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( ) p j(2) Pre-tax return on Average Active Equity(3) Per target definition: Assets based on U.S.GAAP ‘pro-forma’; total equity adjusted for FV gains / losses on DB issued debt

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Phase 4: assumptions for 2010 – 2011

— No further major market dislocations— Normalization of asset valuations— Global revenue fee pool: CAGR of 9% to a level slightly— Global revenue fee pool: CAGR of 9% to a level slightly

below 9M2007 annualized— Margins remain higher than pre-crisis

Environmental

— Interest rates normalization from 2nd half 2010— Global GDP growth ≥ 2% p.a. over the period

— No significant further write-downsDeutsche Bank — Market share gains

— EUR 1 bn efficiency gains out of infrastructure

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Phase 4: IBIT potential of business divisionspIn EUR bn

Ph 4 t ti l 2011Phase 4 potential 2011

Corporate Banking & Securities 6.3

Global Transaction Banking 1.3

Asset and Wealth Management 1.0

Private & Business Clients 1.5

Total business divisions 10.0

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Note: Figures do not add up due to rounding differences

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Progress towards 2011 profit targetg gIncome before income taxes, in EUR bn

1Q2010 Phase 4 potential

Corporate Banking & Securities

reported

2.6

2011

6.3

Prospects / Key features

— Capture client flow / market share with prudent risk takingRecord performance in traditionally strong first quarter

Global Transaction Banking 0.1 1.3

— Record performance in traditionally strong first quarter

— Expansion in key regions and client sectors— Upside potential from interest rate increase

Asset and Wealth Management (0.0) 1.0

— AM: Benefits from right-sizing the platform— PWM: Exploit undisputed home market leadership

and grow Asia

Private & Business Clients 0.2 1.5

— Reap benefits from sales initiatives in Germany and Europe

— Positive impact from efficiency measures

Total business divisions 2.9 10.0

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Note: Figures may not add up due to rounding differences

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Complexity reduction program: Further strengthen i i i icompetitive position

Efficiency gains and complexity Development cost/income ratio

y g p yreduction

Efficiency gains and complexity134Reported, in %

— Efficiency gains and complexity reduction is planned to result in EUR 1 bn cost savings in infrastructure areas (based on 2009 figures)82 figures)

— Benefits may partly be off-set by re-investments to further reduce complexity

Target65%

7982

80

75

70 70 7277

102

complexity

— Achievements will significantly contribute to P&L

70 7077

71 7067

6468 69

Peer group(1)

Note: DB: 2002-2005 based on U.S. GAAP, from 2006 onwards based on IFRS(1) Peer group includes BNP Paribas Citi Credit Suisse Goldman Sachs JPMorgan Chase Morgan Stanley UBS Merrill Lynch (until 2006) Lehman Brothers (until

2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009g p

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(1) Peer group includes BNP Paribas, Citi, Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Merrill Lynch (until 2006), Lehman Brothers (until 2007), BoA (since 2008), 2007 excluding Citi and UBS, 2008 excluding UBS

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Complexity reduction program: Structured process tohi EUR 1 b ffi i i b d f 2011achieve EUR 1 bn efficiency gains by end of 2011

Validate impact

Prepare execution

Identify ideas

Develop initiatives Execute

Validate initiatives Decision

Regular progress and impact tracking by Group Executive Committee

Objectives Achievements— Leverage best practices to reduce

complexity— Drive continuous improvement in

— Process and governance structure set upand committed

— ~200 initiatives within business divisionse co t uous p o e e toperating procedures

— Align processes and gain synergies— Strengthen cost management culture

00 t at es t bus ess d s o sand infrastructure functions defined

— Existing initiatives centrally listed, quantified and further developedStrengthen cost management culture

— Improve operating leverage and cost-income ratio

— EUR ~550 m efficiency gains already committed(1)

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(1) Initiatives in Legal, Risk & Capital, Global Business Services, Technology/IT

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Cost and infrastructure efficiency: Examples of initiativesI EURIn EUR m Illustrative

Function / area Key leversEnd 2011 potential run-rate cost savingFunction / area Key levers

Technology / IT Functional alignment of IT operating model:— Elimination of duplication — Functional integration and standardisation of

( d d ti t )

run rate cost saving

processes (app. dev., production mgt.)— Maximising value from of vendor management and

outsourcing— Maximum benefit of low-cost locations

Platform efficiencies (Berliner Bank GTB

200 - 250

— Platform efficiencies (Berliner Bank, GTB integration)

Global Business Services

Transition to next generation operating model:— Lean process redesignServices Lean process redesign — Further use of low-cost locations— Continued standardisation of processes— Automation (elimination of manual processes)

150- 200

& C f G ffLegal, Risk & Capital Implementation of Global Efficiency Model:— Redefine core and optimise non-core activities— Strict risk / return discipline in portfolio / coverage— Integrated delivery model

I t d f t i t

100

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— Increase outsourced footprint

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Agenda

1 A strong start to 2010: 1Q Highlights

2 Implementing Phase 4 of our management agenda

3 Key current issues

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The changing regulatory environment

Consultation phase Proposal / discussion phase

— Basel Committee consultative document

— Capital / capital eligibility

— National capital requirements

— Structure and capitalization of legal

— Leverage

— Liquidity

— Counterparty credit risk

entities

— Asset allocation

— Allocation of operationsCounterparty credit risk

— Countercyclical capital buffers

— Timeline for implementation

Allocation of operations

— Sources and means of funding

— “Living wills”

— U.S. balance sheet levy

— U.S. / EU proposed reforms

— Proprietary trading

— Hedge funds

— Private equity / principal investments

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Tier 1 capital and RWA developmentI EUR bIn EUR bn

Tier 1 capital RWA

1.80.7 14.4

292.5

34.4(1.3)

32 8 273 53.3

1.5

6.5(6.7)

(2.1) (0.1)(0.5)

32.8 273.5

31 Dec2009

31 Mar2010

1Q10 net

FX effects

Equitycom-

Capital de-

Other(2)Sal. Oppen-

31 Dec2009

Opera-tional

31 Mar2010

Sal. Oppen-

OtherMarket risk(3)

FX effects2009 2010net

incomeeffects com-

pensationde-

duction items(1)

Oppen-heim

2009 tional risk(4)

2010Oppen-heim(5)

risk( ) effects

Note: Figures may not add up due to rounding differences(2) Other includes dividend accrual and actuarial gains/losses on pension plans(3) Contains EUR 1 bn market risk Sal. Oppenheim(4) Contains EUR 1 6 bn operational risk Sal Oppenheim

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(1) Primarily reflecting deductions in relation to certain securitization positions in the trading book

(4) Contains EUR 1.6 bn operational risk Sal. Oppenheim(5) Credit Risk RWA only

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Sovereign risk – Hot spots in Southern EuropeC b t i i k t ti l t ti ff t th h t iConcerns about sovereign risk – potential tertiary effect through contagion

CDS spreads by country (in bps) DB exposures(1) by country, 31 Mar 2010

Italy Spain Portugal Greece Ireland

Total exposure (gross)Exposure after hedging and collateral (net) Thereof sovereign(net)

— Sovereign: Overall relatively small, except Italy— CIB: Focus on better rated clients; corporates / FIs with satisfactory diversification & risk

iti ti

Limited primary/ secondary

tf li

but potential

mitigation— PBC: Large presence in Spain and Italy, mitigated by low concentration risk and collateral

portfolio concerns…

— Significant spread widening could lead to losses on our illiquid GM/GB legacy positions— Temporarily reduced liquidity in EU debt and equity markets— European banks with significant cross border funding would exhibit renewed stress

…but potential risk of tertiary market impact

due to contagion

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(1) Includes exposure for CIB, PBC and PWM, excludes traded credit positions (TCP)

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Sovereign risk: GreeceSt t i i i t l i

Market scenarios

— Hair cut on Greek sovereign debt

Impact Potential impact on DB

— Limited losses from sovereign debt exposure

Risk

Stress contagion scenario impact analysis

Hair cut on Greek sovereign debt — Shipping : Greek ship owners wealth largely

held in domestic assets (e.g. stakes in banks); losses and tighter liquidity with negative impact on CAPEX, future earnings

Limited losses from sovereign debt exposure— Greek FI/Sovereign exposure driven by FX and

Rates derivatives to double— Immediate liquidity and P&L impact negligible as

very small local DB franchisePrim

ary

, g— HF and HNWI impacted by direct losses on

Greek Sovereign/FI holdings

— Greek sov debt restructuring results in ~ EUR 50-75bn losses for European banks

y— PWM exposure to Greek clients manageable

given large AuM; overall HF portfolio net short

— Funding cost increase— Share price under pressure

P

dary

50 75bn losses for European banks— FIs with larger sovereign holdings and/or

exposure to Greek banking sector come under pressure

Credit spreads rise sharply as financials widen

Share price under pressure— Collateral (Greek govt) held negligible;

Prime Finance exposure limited after collateral

Further loss potential on illiquid legacy assets

Seco

nd

— Credit spreads rise sharply as financials widen & liquidity dries up for riskier assets

— Severe contagion globally, initially with spill over into weak EU and some CEEEquities fall financials underperform

— Further loss potential on illiquid legacy assets— Aggregate short TCP position in Spain, Portugal

and Ireland— However, contagion impact beyond PIIGS

countries could be materialrtia

ry

— Equities fall, financials underperform— USD, Treasuries, precious metals benefit from

“flight to safety”; USD strengthening leads to currency volatility in EMs (e.g. LatAM, less impact on Asia)

countries could be material— Derivative exposure MTM to rise, driven by

falling EUR, spread widening — Capital hedged against EUR depreciation

Ter

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Note: Scenario based on holistic overview (tertiary risks over 10 day period); effects may not necessary be sequential or in described orderTraffic lights denote overall downside scenario impact on Deutsche Bank. TCP = Traded credit positions

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Modest reliance on shorter term wholesale fundingI EUR bIn EUR bn

Funding sources overview Liquidity position— Secured funding increase mainly

against highly liquid trading assets

173

21131 Mar 2010 (Total: EUR 856 bn)31 Dec 2009 (Total: EUR 777 bn)

— Incremental discretionary wholesale funding more than offset by increase of available

164 153

100118

165173158

100123

cash balances— Available cash and strategic

liquidity reserve exceed net f di d bi d

100

5126

100

61

29funding gap under combined stress scenario

— YTD execution of 2010 issuance volume well ahead of plan

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Capital markets

Retail Trans-action

Other customers(1)

Discre-tionary

Secured funding

Financing vehicles(2)

volume well ahead of plan (>50% of EUR 19 bn plan)

and equity banking wholesale and shorts

Unsecured funding and equityNote: Figures may not add up due to rounding differences(1) Other includes fiduciary self funding structures (e g X markets) margin / Prime Brokerage cash balances (shown on a net basis)

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(1) Other includes fiduciary, self-funding structures (e.g. X-markets), margin / Prime Brokerage cash balances (shown on a net basis)(2) Includes ABCP conduits

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Key takeaways

Well-capitalized— Significant capital buffer; above targets— Future retained earnings potential— Fresh capital for buying new earnings streams (only)

Strong liquidity / f di

p y g g ( y)

— Substantial liquidity reservefunding — Diverse unsecured funding base

Clear achievable goals— Profit growth of core businesses— Infrastructure efficiency gains

In all aspects: Positioned to deliver on Phase 4

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Deutsche Bank

Additional informationAdditional information

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2011 potential: CB&S / Global MarketsI b f i t i EUR b

Cost developmentRevenue developmentRisk

developmentMargin / volume

Income before income taxes, in EUR bn

~(1.6)~2.4 ~(0.9)— Margin / volume

normalisation— Lower market volatility— Predominantly

FX/Rates/ Credit

— De-risking losses— Legacy businesses— Mark-downs— Monoline reserves

— Strategic hiring— Platform investments

5.6 4.1 5.7 5.6

— U.S. cash— Liquid/flow

— Commodities build— EM debt build— Other

derivatives— Asia cash— Prime

Brokerage

(4.0)

2009IBIT

2009adjusted

2011potential

Additionalstaff costs

Potentialwrite downs(1)

— Direct market access— Clearing

Growth areas Growthrelated costs

Revenue impactsIBIT adjusted potential

IBITEquities Debt / other products

staff costs incl. deferrals

write-downs(1)related costsMarket nor-malisation

Specific items / other

trading losses

(1) Primarily contra revenues

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(1) Primarily contra-revenuesNote: Does not correspond to segmental reporting; the sum of GM and CF does not add up to the reported CB&S figure mainly due to LEMG; column size is illustrative

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2011 potential: CB&S / Corporate FinanceI b f i t i EUR b

— Credit spreads

Cost developmentRevenue development

Riskdevelopment

Income before income taxes, in EUR bn

0.9

Credit spreads tightening

— Lower market volatility— Lower hedge losses

~(0.4)~0.9 ~0.0

2.4

0.6 0.4

— Strategic hires:— Junior hiring — Senior hires in

— Top-5— Key investments

(M&A, FIG, NRG)— IPO market

R it li ti

— CRE / Other mark-downs(1)(0.9)— IAS 39 LLPs (1.2)

FIG, NRG, China & UK — Recapitalization— Financing

(2.6)2009 Specific Market 2009 Target fee Share Invest- Additional 2011

— Lev. Fin.-related legal settlements (0.3)

Non- Additional IBIT items normali-

sationbefore specific items

pool growth

capture ment hiring staff costsincl.

deferrals

potential IBIT

recurring Lev. Fin. revenues

risk costs(2)

(1) Incl. significant property impairments of EUR 0.5 bn(2) Incremental LLPNote: Does not correspond to segmental reporting; The sum of GM and CF does not add up to the reported CB&S figure mainly due to LEMG;

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Note: Does not correspond to segmental reporting; The sum of GM and CF does not add up to the reported CB&S figure mainly due to LEMG;column size is illustrative FIG = Financial Institutions Group; NRG = Natural Resources Group; LDCM = Leveraged Debt Capital Markets

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2011 potential: Global Transaction BankingI b f i t i EUR b

Cost developmentRevenue development

Risk development

Income before income taxes, in EUR bn

~(0.5)~1.1 ~(0.0)— Supply Chain Finance— Agency Securities

Lending— Securities Clearing

— Expansion in key growth regions (e.g.

1.3

Securities Clearing— Alternative Fund

Services

Asia, MENA) — Strengthening

footprint in Europe

Normalisation:— Avg. EONIA— Avg. FFE

0.8 — IT— Additional

headcount

— Payment Service Directive

— Reduced funding benefit

— Local LargeCap/MNC clients

— Large MidCaps in EuropePublic sector

— Integration of parts of ABN AMRO(1)

— Public sector— Non-bank FI´s and Tier 2

and 3 banks

2009reported

IBIT Solutions Clients

2011potential

IBITMarkets

Growth related

investment costs

Additional risk costs(2)

Improved interest rates

Growth areas Other constraints

(1) Pro rata running and migration costs (2) Incremental LLP; MNC = Multi National Corporates EONIA = Euro OverNight Index Average FFE = Federal Funds Effective

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2011 potential: Asset ManagementI b f i t i EURIncome before income taxes, in EUR m Assumes no appreciation of

equity indices 2010 - 2011

Cost developmentRevenue developmentRisk

development

500

— RREEF-related losses— MM fund injections

— Rightsizing / Smartsourcing / Outsourcing (RREEF prop mgmt./fund accounting, EQ/QS,

~235~45 ~0

— Severance— Acquisition costs— Write-back of DWS

Scudder intangible

— IT / Ops optimization

— Office space rationalization

Portfolio mgt (~800 FTE))— Partnerships (e.g. insurance)

(~100 FTE)

159

63 222

— Full year — Result of 2009

— AUM growth— RREEF transaction

activity growth

Full year 2009 market impact

reductions

Specificitems

Market normali-sation

IT/Ops/Real Estate

rationali-zation

2009reported

IBIT

2009beforespecificitems

Costsavingsrun rate

Strategicinitiatives

2011potential

IBIT

2010-2011organic growth

Changein

LLPs

Strategicinitia-tives

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2011 potential: Private Wealth ManagementI b f i t l di ff t f S l O h i

Cost developmentRevenue development

Riskdevelopment

Income before income taxes, excluding effects from Sal. Oppenheim,in EUR m

425~(0)~310

— Increasedvolumes

~0

— Double-size Asia

— Severance— ARS/ARP settlement

costs

— New platform project

— Exit small booking centers

— Global re-pricing initiative

73 116 — GB/GM partnerships

costs— Acquisition costs — Germany

— U.S. — Predominantly Asia

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p p— RMs team profile uplift— HNWI market growth

2009reported

IBIT

2009 specific items

2009beforespecificitems

Cost base reduction

Emerging market

UHNWpro-

position

Lending Product initiatives

2011potential

IBIT

On-shore market growth

Organic growth hires

Changein LLPs

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2011 potential: Private & Business ClientsI b f i t i EUR bIncome before income taxes, in EUR bn

Cost developmentRevenue developmentRisk

development

— Severance /

1.5~0.1~0.7 ~0.0

— ITinvestments related to efficiency program

— One-off gain from LLP recalibration

Optimization in: — Head-office— Mid-office

— Other

— Growth related non-comp increaseSelected in estments

— Hua Xia

— Investment & Insurance products: sales initiatives, realignment of specialized investment advisory teams

0.2 0.7

0.5

— Service centers

— Selected investments— Staff costs

ea g e t o spec a ed est e t ad so y tea s— Credit Products: selective growth mainly in Europe,

exit of specific portfolios and tightened approval criteria— Deposits & Payments / Other(1): active margin management,

fixed rate saving deposits up 20 bps over the next 12 months

2009reported

IBIT

Specificitems

2009before

specific items Sales initiatives

Germany Europe Efficiencyinitiatives(2)

Infra-structure platform efficiency

Changein LLPs

Asia 2011potential

IBIT

Cost to achievegrowth

(1) Mainly Asset Liability Management (2) Reduces also risk costs

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(2) Reduces also risk costsNote: Figures may not add up due to rounding differences; column size is illustrative

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LLPs stabilising as market shows signs of recovery

Loan loss provisions development: 2003 – 1Q2010

12%

10%

CIB loss in EUR m (lhs)

PCAM loss in EUR m (lhs)

Moodys Corp Default Rate (rhs) Thereof IAS39 (lhs)

DB loss annualised (rhs)

VIX implied vol S&P 500

Forecast

8%

6%

4%

2%

2003 2) 2004 2) 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010F3)

1Q2010 LLP l t h l d t EUR 262 1Q2009 (LLP IAS39 <50% f 1Q2009)Favourable LLP

(1) All bps annualised

— 1Q2010 LLPs almost halved to EUR 262 m vs. 1Q2009 (LLPs on IAS39 <50% of 1Q2009)— Despite encouraging outcome, we leave full-year forecast unchanged given market

uncertainties in a fragile economic recovery

development, particularly with

IAS39 assets

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( ) p(2) 31 Dec 2009 loan book used to calculate bps(3) Forecast based on 2010 base case

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VaR of CIB trading units; higher revenues with lower risk 99% 1 d i EUR99%, 1 day, in EUR m

VaR of CIB trading unitsConstant VaR of CIB trading units(1)

Sales & Trading revenues

160

180

EUR 4.7 bnEUR 4.0 bn

120

140

160

60

80

100

20

40

60

145 114 116 141 108

3Q2009 1Q20102Q20091Q2009 4Q2009

145 114 116 141 44 35 47 45

108 36

(1) Constant VaR is an approximation of how the VaR would have developed in case the impact of the market data on the current portfolio of trading risks would not have

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(1) Constant VaR is an approximation of how the VaR would have developed in case the impact of the market data on the current portfolio of trading risks would not have changed during the period and if VaR would not have been affected by any methodology changes during that period

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Sales & Trading: Second-best quarter everN t RDebt & other products EquityNet Revenues

In EUR bn In EUR m

Mark-downsNet revenues

Specific item

927 944

In EUR bn In EUR m

Net revenues

1.0 0 3

927 873

636

944

3.8 2 5 2 2

3.8 0.1

0 2

0.3

0.4 (2)

(1)215

2.5 2.2 1.3 0.2 (2)

1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q 1Q 1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q 1Q

Note: Prior periods have been adjusted to reflect the current presentation of Sales & Trading revenues(1) Charges related to Ocala Funding LLC of approx. EUR 350 m(2) I l d t ff t f l l t d t it d ifi i k i t t d dit b i f EUR 300 ff t b t k f

2009 2010 2009 2010

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(2) Includes net effect of losses related to write-downs on specific risks in our structured credit business of approx. EUR 300 m, offset by net mark-ups of EUR 263 m (mainly monolines)

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Invested assets(1) reportI EUR bIn EUR bn

1Q2010

Net new money 31 Mar

200930 Jun 2009

30 Sep 2009

31 Dec 2009

31 Mar 2010

Asset and Wealth Management 627 632 657 686 808 9 Asset Management 462 460 476 496 537 4

therein: Sal. Oppenheim (2) - - - - 14 0 Institutional 169 160 165 173 180 (1)Retail 142 153 162 166 174 0 Alternatives 44 41 40 41 44 0 Insurance 106 106 109 116 139 4Insurance 106 106 109 116 139 4

Private Wealth Management 165 171 182 190 271 5 therein: Sal. Oppenheim (2) - - - - 68 (0)

Private & Business Clients 182 189 196 194 197 0

(4)Securities 95 102 109 111 115 2 Deposits excl. sight deposits 77 76 76 72 70 (2)Insurance(3) 11 11 11 11 12 0

Note: Excludes BHF invested assets per 31 March 2010 of EUR 45 bn (Corporate Investments); figures may not add up due to rounding differences(1) Assets held by Deutsche Bank on behalf of customers for investment purposes and / or managed by Deutsche Bank on a discretionary or advisory basis or deposited

with Deutsche Bank(2) Since consolidation as of 29 January 2010(3) Life insurance surrender value

PCAM 809 821 854 880 1,005 9

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(3) Life insurance surrender value(4) Includes adjustment of EUR (3) bn due to a reclassification of PBC products in 1Q2009; off-setting effects are included in "Securities" and "Insurance" respectively

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Cautionary statements

This presentation contains forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are statements that are not historicalThis presentation contains forward looking statements. Forward looking statements are statements that are not historicalfacts; they include statements about our beliefs and expectations and the assumptions underlying them. Thesestatements are based on plans, estimates and projections as they are currently available to the management of DeutscheBank. Forward-looking statements therefore speak only as of the date they are made, and we undertake no obligation toupdate publicly any of them in light of new information or future eventsupdate publicly any of them in light of new information or future events.

By their very nature, forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties. A number of important factors couldtherefore cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statement. Such factorsinclude the conditions in the financial markets in Germany, in Europe, in the United States and elsewhere from which wey, p ,derive a substantial portion of our revenues and in which we hold a substantial portion of our assets, the development ofasset prices and market volatility, potential defaults of borrowers or trading counterparties, the implementation of ourstrategic initiatives, the reliability of our risk management policies, procedures and methods, and other risks referenced inour filings with the U S Securities and Exchange Commission Such factors are described in detail in our SEC Form 20-Four filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Such factors are described in detail in our SEC Form 20-Fof 16 March 2010 under the heading “Risk Factors.” Copies of this document are readily available upon request or can bedownloaded from www.deutsche-bank.com/ir.

This presentation also contains non-IFRS financial measures. For a reconciliation to directly comparable figures reportedp y p g punder IFRS, to the extent such reconciliation is not provided in this presentation, refer to the 1Q2010 Financial DataSupplement, which is accompanying this presentation and available at www.deutsche-bank.com/ir.

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