Debunk 360, three hundred and sixty, Day Long Year
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Why Debunk?? There is an erroneous concept that around the time of Noah, one earth year was 360 days, or so I was told in 4 instances by Christian writers. A Mr. Koenig emailed saying, ‘and there is no way to prove otherwise’ . This is true if one does not accept the laws of physics. Thus this writing is for those who accept that physics and science provide the basis to understand nature. A refutation is seen in Rotational Time or Year Length stability. The misguided 360 year concept originated in extrapolation of Gen.8:3-4. There it counts 150 days in first 5 months of a year. Any number of calendar systems could be used whereby the first 5 months of a year would be 150 days. However scripture was silent about the remaining 7 months. A normal year or “return” is 12 months. However to presume the remaining 7 months of that year were also complete in 210 days is flawed guessing. The residual portion of a solar year always is 365.2425 less 150 days or 215.2425 days. A look at ancient observational methods and calendars explains these points. There are many calendar systems that could be used to deal with the residual days. For example the Hebrew calendar in a leap year or use a system of 30 day months with leap weeks. Looking at the physics, there simply is not enough fusible solar mass to change the solar year by 5.25 days. Also even if done, to burn several billion years of material in one or 2 thousand year would cook off earth’s atmosphere. There is no atmosphere on Venus or Mercury due to the solar heat. At the right are quotes and links to Astronomers who have discussed this issue in great detail. From Astronomers Above, we said that in 100 years, the Sun's mass will decrease by 6.6 parts in a trillion. Therefore, the orbital separation of the planet will increase by 6.6 parts in a trillion and the orbital period will increase by 13.2 parts in a trillion. If the planet in question is the Earth (whose orbital separation from the Sun is around 150,000,000 kilometers and whose orbital period is 1 year), the Earth-Sun separation will increase by about 1 meter, and the orbital period will increase by about 0.4 milliseconds! Neither of these values is large enough for us to be able to detect. Overall, I think it is safe to conclude that (a) there will be no noticeable effect on the planets' orbits over anything resembling a human lifetime, and (b) there will be a noticeable effect over timescales approaching the lifetime of the Sun, since the Sun will lose around 0.07% of its mass over that time period, leading to a change in the Earth's orbital period of about half a day. about 1 M-yr. the perihelion distance will have increased by only ∆≈ 0.22- 0.25 AU, The sun's lifetime has an approximate value of 10 billion years. If the mass of the star has a fractional decrease ϵ, then the linear dimensions of a planet's orbit have a fractional increase ϵ, and the orbital period has a fractional increase 2ϵ. the present recession will only put Earth at 1.0075 AU in 7.5 Billion year. Debunk 360 Day Long Year Concept by OP Armstrong 4/15 1
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Having one 5 month span of 150 days does NOT prove a 360 day long year. It just indicates a calendar construction framework. Ditto for any calendars using 360 days in a year.Gapping from a 360 day orbit to 365.2425 (nominal 365) day long year is a physical impossibility. The total sun mass available to burn is about 0.07% over an estimated 7 billion year sun life. Astronomers say this mass burn will only change orbit time by ½ day. There just is not enough usable sun mass available to change orbit time by 5¼ days.A 360 day year may be an allegorical term of scripture to indicate a time of destruction and upheaval. It is not likely there ever was nor shall be a 360 day long solar year, sorry! More facts are in the uploaded paper.
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Why Debunk?? There is an erroneous concept thataround the time of Noah, one earth year was 360 days, or soI was told in 4 instances by Christian writers. A Mr. Koenigemailed saying, and there is no way to prove otherwise.This is true if one does not accept the laws of physics. Thusthis writing is for those who accept that physics and scienceprovide the basis to understand nature. A refutation is seenin Rotational Time or Year Length stability.The misguided 360 year concept originated in extrapolationof Gen.8:3-4. There it counts 150 days in first 5 months of ayear. Any number of calendar systems could be usedwhereby the first 5 months of a year would be 150 days.However scripture was silent about the remaining 7months. A normal year or return is 12 months. Howeverto presume the remaining 7 months of that year were alsocomplete in 210 days is flawed guessing. The residualportion of a solar year always is 365.2425 less 150 days or215.2425 days. A look at ancient observational methodsand calendars explains these points. There are manycalendar systems that could be used to deal with theresidual days. For example the Hebrew calendar in a leapyear or use a system of 30 day months with leap weeks.Looking at the physics, there simply is not enough fusiblesolar mass to change the solar year by 5.25 days. Also evenif done, to burn several billion years of material in one or 2thousand year would cook off earths atmosphere. There isno atmosphere on Venus or Mercury due to the solar heat.At the right are quotes and links to Astronomers who havediscussed this issue in great detail.
From AstronomersAbove, we said that in 100 years, the Sun's mass willdecrease by 6.6 parts in a trillion. Therefore, the orbitalseparation of the planet will increase by 6.6 parts in atrillion and the orbital period will increase by 13.2 partsin a trillion. If the planet in question is the Earth (whoseorbital separation from the Sun is around 150,000,000kilometers and whose orbital period is 1 year), theEarth-Sun separation will increase by about 1 meter, andthe orbital period will increase by about 0.4milliseconds! Neither of these values is large enough forus to be able to detect.Overall, I think it is safe to conclude that (a) there will beno noticeable effect on the planets' orbits over anythingresembling a human lifetime, and (b) there will be anoticeable effect over timescales approaching thelifetime of the Sun, since the Sun will lose around 0.07%of its mass over that time period, leading to a change inthe Earth's orbital period of about half a day.about 1 M-yr. the perihelion distance will haveincreased by only 0.22- 0.25 AU,
The sun's lifetime has an approximate value of 10billion years. If the mass of the star has a fractionaldecrease , then the linear dimensions of a planet'sorbit have a fractional increase , and the orbital periodhas a fractional increase 2. the present recession willonly put Earth at 1.0075 AU in 7.5 Billion year.
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Chronology above shows by use of Calculated Hebrew Calendar, CHC, the end of the 150 day 5 monthperiod is a difference of 193 days from start. The end of Hebrew year 1416AM is at 385 days from start.Thus is yet 192 days unto end of year 1416AM from end of 150 day 5 month period. Check: 385= 192+193. Thelength of a CHC long leap year is 385 days. So by CHC in this flood year there is not a 360 day long year.Another calendar alternative is to use the Leap Weeks. A reasonable drift is had by using 12 months, 30days each, and 3 leap weeks per 4 years. Many other more accurate constructs with leap weeks havebeen proposed. So having one 5 month span of 150 days does NOT prove nor make the year length to be360 days. It just indicates a calendar construction framework. Ditto for any 360 day year calendars.Gapping from a 360 day orbit to 365.2425 day long year is a physical impossibility. The total sun massavailable to burn is about 0.07% over an estimated 7 billion year sun life. Astronomers say this mass burnwill only change orbit time by day. There is not enough usable sun mass change to drop 5 days.
Chronology of Noah and Flood from Scripture using Julian Day Numbers & CHCRef Gregorian Age HebrewMo DOW Julian Day Event day
Gen8:13 29Feb2345BC Niss01/1416 Tues 864990.5 1st Day Noes 600 Year 0Gen7:4,10 05Apr2345BC Iyy10 Sat 865026.5 Start bring Animal Into Ark at sunset 36Gen8:4 12Apr2345BC Iyy14 Wed 865033.5 Midweek Filing Ark for 7day, 150day Before 43Gen7:11 15Apr2345BC Iyy17 Sat 865036.5 Flood Start 600 year Noes 2nd month, day17 46Gen7:12 25May2345BC Sivn28 Thur 865076.5 End 40 Days of Flooding 86Gen8:4 09Sep2345BC Tish17 Sat 865183.5 7thmo 17thday ark rest 150day after receded 193Gen8:5 22Nov2345BC Tev01 Wed 865257.5 1st Day 10th MO Mountain Tops Seen 2678:6-7 01Jan2344BC Shev12 Mon 865297.5 +40Day Raven out flying about unto dry YLT 307Gen8:10 05Mar2344BC V'dar15 Mon 865360.5 Send dove when dry face earth it returns 3708:10-11 12Mar2344BC V'dar22 Mon 865367.5 Dove gets olive branch H2O receded 377Gen8:12 19Mar2344BC V'dar29 Mon 865374.5 3rd Dove not return 384Gen8:13 20Mar2344BC Niss01/1417 Tues 865375.5 Noes 601Year on 1st mo 1st day ground dry 385
Gen8:14 15May2344BC Iyy27.1417 Tues 865431.5 601yr 2month 27day earth dry 441
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