Dai Vaughan Interview with Richard MacDonald and Martin Stollery Full Transcript MS

7/23/2019 Dai Vaughan Interview with Richard MacDonald and Martin Stollery Full Transcript MS

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|bap ap bn{ A {je| |n ijom iq `jtmmt>

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|bj| ap |bm vnae|# h}p| bn{ tjelni |bmpm |baekp jtm ae nemp cagm% A bjl en vjt|a`}cjt

ae|mtmp| ae gaci {bme A {jp j| p`bnnc% L}taek |bm {jt {m }pml |n kn |n àemijp mwmtq

n|bmt mwmeaek dm`j}pm |bmtm {jp en|baek mcpm |n ln# d}| A emwmt |bn}kb| ng gaci jp je

jt| gnti nt jeq|baek% \bm pnt| ng gacip iq |mj`bmtp j| p`bnnc {mtm ae|mtmp|ml ae# |bj||bmq |bn}kb| {nelmtg}c# {mtm P`n|| ng |bm Je|jt`|a`#Bmetq |bm Gag|b% Ai en| pjqaek

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vjt| ng |bm Gmp|awjc# {jp knaek |n dm tm|jaeml# cjtkmcq l}m |n j vm|a|ane ntkjeapml dqLmeap Gntije {bn {jp |bme bmjl ng |bm DGA jel {bn ap tmjccq nem ng |bm }ep}ek

bmtnmp ng Dta|apb gaci `}c|}tm# |bj| {jp knaek |n nvme }v jp j ej|anejc gaci |bmj|tm |bj|{n}cl pbn{ bap|nta`jc gacip jel |baekp {ba`b ae |bnpm ljqp# |bm almj |bj| |bm gaci

`ne|ae}ml |n mrap| jg|mt a| bjl knem ne |bm àt`}a| bjtlcq `tnppml jeqnemp iael% Pn A

tmjl |bj| jel A {jp gjpàej|ml dm`j}pm a| pjal |bmq {n}cl dm pbn{aek ncl pacme| inwamp

{a|b vmnvcm caom D}p|mt Omj|ne# jel iq vjtme|p bjl |jcoml jdn}| |bmpm ejimp jel A|bn}kb| a| {n}cl dm ae|mtmp|aek |n pmm {bj| iq I}i jel Ljl bjl dmme |jcoaek jdn}|%

Pn A hnaeml |bm Ej|anejc Gaci \bmj|tm jel {me| |n |bmat nvmeaek pbn{ {ba`b `nepap|ml

ng mr|tj`|p gtni cn|p ng {bj| en{jljqp {m {n}cl `jcc p|jeljtl `cjppa` tmvmt|natm#

@jcakjta jel mwmtq|baek }v |n Entije I`Cjtme% Ae |bm `n}tpm ng |bj| |bmq pbn{ml je

mr|tj`| gtniDj||cmpbav Vn|mioae# a| {jp vtndjdcq |bm Nlmppj P|mvp# A `je| tmimidmt%

A |bn}kb|# |bap ap jijxaek# Awm emwmt pmme jeq|baek caom |bap dmgntm% Jel |bm gj`| |bj|

a| {jp pacme| kjwm a| je mr|tj nnivb% A {jp }pml |n |bm {jq |baekp jtm tj|bmt mwmemln}| dq |bm }pm ng djòktn}el i}pa` ae `newme|anejc gacip% Pn A |bn}kb| A i}p| gael

n}| intm jdn}| |bap k}q Mapmep|mae jel A dn}kb| j `nvq ngGaci Gnti jel |bj| A {jp

dn{cml nwmt dq# dm`j}pm p}llmecq A gn}el bmtm {jp pnimdnlq lap`}ppaek |bm {jqgacip {me| |nkm|bmt aijkm dq aijkm# pbn| dq pbn| ) A {tn|m vnm|tq jp j oal# jcc

|mmejkmtp {ta|m vnm|tq# pn A {jp ae|mtmp|ml bm pmmiml |n dm |jcoaek jdn}| gaci ne |bm

pjim cmwmc |bj| pnimnem caom [accaji Mivpne {n}cl |jco jdn}| vnm|tq% A bjl tmjl

Pmwme \qvmp ng Jidak}a|q# {ba`b {jp jen|bmt nem ng |bnpm vn{ mrvmtame`mp ae iq

cj|m |mmep jel A |bn}kb| qn} `je ln |bj| jdn}| gaci% En| necq |bj| d}| |bme bm p|jt|ml

|jcoaek jdn}| ine|jkm {ntoaek caom @baempm almnktjip# {ba`b ap mrj`|cq {bj| Mxtj

Vn}el bjl dmme |jcoaek jdn}| ae tmcj|ane |n vnm|tq% Pn A kn| ae|n |bm {bncm ae|mtmp| ae

gaci waj bjwaek |taml |n {ta|m vnmip {bme A {jp qn}ek%

Pn |bm `neem`|ane {a|b vnm|tq jtm |bm cmjvp gtni nem aijkm |n |bm emr|>


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Qmp% A p}vvnpm iq inlmc# |bn}kb A emwmt jt|a`}cj|ml a|# gnt {bj| j gaci ap caom {n}clbjwm dmme ltjij gnt ndwan}p tmjpnep% D}| |bm gj`| |bj| qn} `n}cl pmm a| ae z}a|m j

laggmtme| {jq# |bj| qn} `n}cl pmm pbn|p nt aijkmp jp j `nivcmr im|jvbnt {jp jtmwmcj|ane% A p|acc gael |bm almj mr`a|aek# |bj| bjpe| knem% A {jp wmtq }ebjvvq ae iq

hnd% A {jp j h}eant ltj}kb|pije# ag qn} {je| |n oen{ {bj| |bj| {jp caom tmjl |bm gatp|

`bjv|mt ngEne)Tm|}te% A oem{ a| {jpe| gnt im d}| A lale| oen{ {bj| |bmjc|mtej|awmp {mtm% \bme nem ljq A {jp {j|`baek j gaci jel A pj{ |bm `tmla|p knaek

|btn}kb jel A |bn}kb|# vmnvcm km| vjal gnt lnaek |bap# a| ap j hnd# A `n}cl ln |bap% Jel

|bme A p|jt|ml cnnoaek jtn}el gnt {jqp |n km| ae jel {jp |ncl |bmtm {mtm en {jqp |n

km| ae d}| nem gaelp nemp {jq tn}el |bj|% Pn nem ng |bm |baekp A lal jg|mt A gaeapbml

|bm wjtan}p `n}tpmp A bjl |n ln jp je mekaemmtaek p|}lme|# bjwaek lnem jcc |bj|# A

mrvmtame`ml {bj| pn ijeq p|}lme|p mrvmtame`ml {bn bjwm lnem mwmeaek `cjppmp#

{ba`b {jp j pmepm ng {bj| ln A ln en{> Pn A |nno |bap `n}tpm ae p`}cv|}tm j| |bm Hnbe

@jpp @nccmkm jel A jcpn metnccml gnt pnim cm`|}tmp |bj| Hnbe B}e|cmq {jp kawaek ne

gaci jvvtm`aj|ane {ba`b {jp j bap|ntq ng gaci d}| {a|b j intm lm|jacml lap`}ppane# |bj|{jp ma|bmt |bm qmjt =

Qmp% [m {mtm pa||aek |bmtm ae n}t nwmt`nj|p jel kcnwmp dm`j}pm a| {jp `ncl% Jg|mt

jdn}| j {mmo ng |bj| Kacintm pjal |bap ap j da| paccq# {m tmjccq ln emml |n km| |bmmz}avime| n}|# Acc bjwm |n gael j vcj`m# Acc cm| qn} oen{% Pn jkjae |bmtm {jp |bap cnek

vj}pm% A| i}p| bjwm dmme |bm dmkaeeaek ng |bm emr| qmjt |bj| bm gn}el j d}aclaek ae jvcj`m `jccml Dmmbawm Vcj`m ae Dtar|ne# {ba`b jkjae {jp j pnt| ng lmtmca`| d}aclaek d}|


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|bmtm% Pn a| {jp wmtq# wmtq caia|ml {bj| qn} `n}cl ln% Kacintmp cm`|}tmp |}teml n}| |n

dm ae en| jcc tmpvm`|p j``}tj|m pn qn} {n}cl bjwm |n lap`}pp a| {a|b mj`b n|bmt% N}tcmjteaek `nepap|ml cjtkmcq ng |jcoaek |n mj`b n|bmt jel vjppaek ne aegntij|ane% Jel bm

bjl |baekp caom gmj|}tm p`tav|p {ba`b bm `n}cl pbn{ }p jel bm bjl pnim gtamelp ae |bm

ael}p|tq {bn {n}cl `nim ae jel cm`|}tm%

[bn ln qn} tm`jcc `niaek ae>

Dnd L}edjt {bn {jp j`|}jccq |aml }v {a|b |bm p`bnnc ae pnim {jq `jim ae jel lal

z}a|m j da|% Vm|mt Bjccji# bjwm A kn| |bm ejim takb|> Je mla|nt {bn A |baeo necq tm|atml

j gm{ qmjtp jkn%

Qn} i}p| bjwm dmme wmtq `niia||ml |n |bap vj|b |n p|a`o {a|b a|%

[mcc qmp jel en% \bm |baek ap bjwaek kn| ae|n |bj| Al bjelml ae iq en|a`m j| |bmmekaemmtaek gati% \bmtm {jpe| jen|bmt gaci `n}tpm pn |bm nv|anep {mtm gm{ jel A

|bn}kb| j| cmjp| cm|p pmm |bap |btn}kb%

Bn{ {mtm qn} p}vvnt|aek qn}tpmcg j| |bm |aim>

[mcc Al pjwml }v inemq dm`j}pm Al dmme {ntoaek% A cmg| p`bnnc j| par|mme jel Al

dmme {ntoaek gnt {bj|mwmt a| {jp# gawm qmjtp# par qmjtp jp j h}eant ltj}kb|pije jel

cawaek j| bnim pn A bjl pnim inemq v}| dq% Iael qn} dq |bm |aim |bm p`bnnc `n}tpm

bjl knem A melml }v {a|b iq vjtme|p ommvaek im gnt j gm{ ine|bp dmgntm A ijejkml

|n km| j hnd%

[bme qn} {mtm ne |bm `n}tpm lal qn} bjwm j vjt|a`}cjt jpvatj|ane |n {nto aeln`}ime|jtq> Ag je nvmeaek bjl `nim }v ae gmj|}tmp {n}cl qn} bjwm knem gnt |bj|>

A lne| oen{% A emwmt lal bjwm je nvvnt|}ea|q |n {nto ae gmj|}tmp jel {bm|bmt A {n}cl

bjwm lnem A iakb| bjwm lnem% D}| A jc{jqp oem{ |bj| a| {jp ln`}ime|jtq |bj| A {jp

ae|mtmp|ml ae% A jpp}iml {bme A gatp| p|jt|ml |bm gaci p`bnnc |bj| A {je|ml |n dm j

latm`|nt dm`j}pm vmnvcm |bn}kb| |bmq {mtm |bm necq vmnvcm {bn ijlm gacip ae |bnpm

ljqp% D}| |bme A tmjcapml l}taek |bm `n}tpm ng dmaek j| |bm gaci p`bnnc |bj| {bj| Atmjccq mehnqml }ep}tvtapaekcq tmjccq ae wam{ ng {bj| Awm pjal jdn}| vnm|tq {jp

v}||aek pbn|p |nkm|bmt%

\bap `n}cl dm iq tm|tnpvm`|awm aivtmppane d}| dm|{mme |bm cj|m |{me|amp jel |bm gag|amp

|bmtm {jp j`|}jccq intm j`oen{cmlkmime| ng n|bmt tncmp ae gaciijoaek% A| vtndjdcq

{n}cl bjwm dmme {mcc n}| ng lj|m dq |bm |aim qn} p|jt|ml p|}lqaek d}| |bm Jltaje

Dt}emc dnnop ne gaci `tjg| jel gaci vtnl}`|ane% \bmq bjl jvvmela`mp {ta||me dqvmnvcm ae laggmtme| lmvjt|ime|p# mla|ntp

\bmq {mtm intm bn{)|n dnnop {mtme| |bmq>


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Ne`m |bm gaci ap `nivcm|ml |bmq {n}cl pmel |bm gaci |n }p {a|b |bm `ne|ae}a|q pbmm| pn{m `n}cl alme|agq `bjtj`|mtp jel iq hnd {jp |n pa| |bmtm {a|b je mla|ncj jel j

|qvm{ta|mt jel |qvm n}| j`|ane ne |bj| palm# pn}el ne |bm n|bmt# i}pa` ae# i}pa` n}|% A|{n}cl dm {tnek |n pjq A {jp `nepàn}pcq p|}lqaek bn{ gacip jtm v}| |nkm|bmt dm`j}pm

A {jp |nn d}pq lnaek |bm hnd d}| A |baeo pnim|baek {jp gac|mtaek ae|n im jdn}| {bj|

ijlm j knnl pmz}me`m% A |baeo A {jp cmjteaek j cn| ae j p}dcaiaejc {jq gtni |bj|%

Qn} ime|aneml |bj| qn} oem{ Caelpjq Jelmtpne jel Ojtmc Tmapx# bn{ lal qn} ijom

`neem`|ane {a|b |bmi>

Ai en| p}tm jdn}| Ojtmc Tmapx# A |baeo Ljwal _EjlmeY bjl pnim `neem`|ane {a|b bai%

Caelpjq# {m }pml |n kn |n pbn{aekp ng Gtmm @aemij jel |baekp dm`j}pm |bj| {jp j

vjt| ng {bj| {m {mtm jdn}|% Ai |jcoaek en{ jdn}| {bme {m {mtm j| |bm gaci p`bnnc% A

emwmt gaeapbml |mccaek qn} jdn}| Dmmbawm Vcj`m {ba`b {jp j {tmò jel j`|}jccq ae

Gmdt}jtq ng :1=; |bm gcnnt dnjtlp {mtm tn||me jel {m {mtm cjqaek `ne`tm|m% Jtencl[mpomt jel A {mtm iaraek `ne`tm|m ae |bm p|tmm| jel {m }pml je ncl dmlgtjim |n

tmaegnt`m a|% Pn |bj| {jp n}t gaci ml}`j|ane jel |bme {m lap`nwmtml |bmtm {jp j dak`tjò ln{e |bm djò {jcc pn {m |bn}kb| jcc takb| inwm jkjae% [m bjl jen|bmt vmtanl

|{allcaek n}t |b}idp dmgntm {m inwml |n Mcm`|ta` Jwme}m {bmtm |bm gaci p`bnncp|jqml gnt z}a|m j cnek |aim jel A {jp kawme |bm hnd ng ntkjeapaek |bm gaci pbn{aekp

dm`j}pm A bjl dmme lnaek pnim ng |bj| {a|b |bm gaci pnàm|q jel A oem{ |bm

`neem`|anep% Al jcpn p}ppml n}| dq |bj| |aim {bmtm qn} `n}cl km| p|}gg gnt gtmm% A {jp

vjt|a`}cjtcq omme ne @jtc Ltmqmt jel Al lap`nwmtml |bj| qn} `n}cl km| bap

ln`}ime|jtamp jel pbnt|p gtni |bm Ljeapb Midjppq% A {jp jc{jqp knaek tn}el |bmtm

jel dtaekaek djò jen|bmt @jtc Ltmqmt pbnt| gaci |n tmwam{ ne |bm Tnpp vtnhm`|nt%

Qn} ime|ane |bm gntij|awm aegc}me`m ng Mapmep|mae jel en{ Ltmqmt% Jp gjt jp Ai

j{jtm qn} bjwme| {ta||me j ijhnt vam`m ne Mapmep|mae nt Ltmqmt%

\bmtm ap je jt|a`cm ne Ltmqmt ae Pakb| jel Pn}el{ba`b A {n}cl j`|}jccq vtmgmt vmnvcm

en| |n tmjl% A tm{tn|m a| z}a|m tm`me|cq dm`j}pm j `n}vcm ng qmjtp jkn A |taml |njppmidcm j `nccm`|ane ng mppjqp ne wjtan}p |nva`p# gaci# ca|mtj|}tm% A| {jp tmjccq j ene)

p|jt|mt dm`j}pm ma|bmt qn} bjwm kn| |n bjwm je j`jlmia` djòktn}el nt qn}wm kn| |ndm pnimnem caom Xjlam Pia|b {bn bjp tmjccq ba| |bm v}dca` mqm% A |bn}kb| Al kawm a| j

|tq jel ae |bm `n}tpm ng |bj| A tm{tn|m |bm @jtc Ltmqmt mppjq jel ltnvvml n}| jcc |bm

midjttjppaekcq djl da|p jel omv| |bm omtemc ng {bj| A |bn}kb| p|acc p|nnl jp dmaek

{nt|b bjwaek ae%

Bjwm qn} {ta||me ne Mapmep|mae>

En% Ae |bm `ne|mr| ng n|bmt |baekp Awm ime|aneml bai d}| en| jp j pvmàga` |baek jdn}|

bai%

Qn} tmgmt |n |bm Nlmppj P|mvp pmz}me`m |n{jtlp |bm mel ng\n|mp Immt%

Ln A> Al gntkn||me |bj|% Vjt|cq a|p dm`j}pm pn ijeq n|bmt vmnvcm ae`c}laek Mapmep|mae

bjwm jctmjlq lnem a|% Jel jcpn pnim|aimp A bjwm j pnt| ng aebada|ane jdn}| {ta|aekjdn}| |baekp |bj| tmjccq ij||mt% Iq gjwn}ta|m enwmc ap \bm [jwmp jel A `n}cl vtndjdcq

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J| |bap vnae| qn} {mtm {ta|aek `ta|a`jc vam`mp gntGaci jelGacip jel Gaciaek pbnt|

tmwam{p jel jcpn cnekmt vam`mp% Bn{ {mtm qn} lmwmcnvaek jp j gaci {ta|mt>

Qmp% \bmtm jtm |{n cnekmt vam`mp A |baeo# nem ne |bm vtm)bap|ntq ng ln`}ime|jtq jel

nem ne Lxakj Wmt|nwpIje [a|b j Inwam @jimtj% \bmq {mtm vjt| ng j vtnhm`| A bjlvtndjdcq ae |bm mjtcq ljqp ng |bm gaci p`bnnc ag en| dmgntm ng {ta|aek {bj| A `jccml j|

|bj| |aim j bap|ntq ng ln`}ime|jtq tmjca|q% [bj| A }elmtp|nnl dq |bj| {jp {bj| qn}

{n}cl en{jljqp `jcc laggmtme| {jqp ae {ba`b tmjca|q bjl dmme tmvtmpme|ml% Ae |bnpm

ljqp qn} pj{ |bmi jp tmjca|amp ae |bmat n{e takb|% Dm`j}pm A bjl j pcakb|cq laggmtme|

|bn}kb tm`nkeapjdcq je`mp|tjc wam{ ng ln`}ime|jtq ae |bnpm ljqp% Vjt| ng |bm

Mapmep|mae |baek# A oen{ bm {jp ijoaek ga`|ane# a| {jp |aml }v ae iq iael {a|b |bm

almj |bj| gaci bjl j pvmàjc `cjai ne tmjca|q% J| |bj| |aim A {n}cl vtndjdcq bjwm

jtk}ml |bj| a| {jp dm`j}pm ng |bm im`bjea`jc ej|}tm ng |bm `jimtj {ba`b ap vtndjdcq

en| {bj| A {n}cl pjq en{% D}| enem|bmcmpp |bm almj |bj| |bmtm {jp j vtawacmkmltmcj|anepbav dm|{mme |bm gaci aijkm jel |bm tmjc {ntcl |bj| lnmpe| mrap| {a|b j

vjae|ml aijkm jel |bj| |bmtmgntm dq ijeav}cj|aek |bm gaci aijkm qn} jtm ae pnimpmepm ijeav}cj|aek j vn|me|ajc tmjca|q8 |bm {ntcl dm`jim ijccmjdcm |btn}kb a|p

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gj`| |bj| {bj| ap pvmàjc jdn}| |bm gaci aijkm ap en| |bj| a| ap im`bjea`jc d}| |bj| qn}

emml |bm ndhm`| ae ntlmt |n ijom |bm p}dhm`|% \bm |baek qn} jtm vbn|nktjvbaek ap jcpn

vjt| ng |bm jt|ap|a` imla}i a|pmcg%

Pnim ng {bj| qn} jtm pjqaek ndwan}pcq tmpnej|mp {a|b Djxaep almjp% [mtm qn}

mrvnpml |n bap {ta|aek mjtcq ne>

A tmjl Djxae j cnek |aim jkn% A bnemp|cq `je| tmimidmt i}`b jdn}| bai d}| iq

tm`nccm`|ane# {ba`b ijq dm gjcpm# ap |bj| bm lale| tmjccq ijom j lap|ae`|ane dm|{mme

ln`}ime|jtq jel ga`|ane% Bm {jp vtaijtacq ae|mtmp|ml ae tm`t}a|aek |bj| pvmàga`

vtnvmt|q ng gaci ae|n |bm ga`|a|an}p vtmpme|j|ane ng |bm {ntcl pn bap almjp jdn}| lmmvgn`}p jel |bm `cnpm }vp aeHmjeem LJt`# bm {jp aivtmppml dq |bnpm# cnek)bmcl

pmz}me`m pbn|p# |bj| pnt| ng |baek% G}eeacq men}kb bm pmmiml ae j {jq |n dm jcinp|vtnvbm|a` ng pnim ng |bm |baekp {ba`b dm`jim aivnt|je| vtj`|a`mp ae |bm ndpmtwj|anejc

gaci inwmime| ijeq qmjtp cj|mt d}| iq tm`nccm`|ane ap en| |bj| bm {jp j`|}jccq

|jcoaek jdn}| ln`}ime|jtq%

Djxae ap wmtq vtmn``}vaml {a|b |bnpm inime|p ng `ne|aekme`q |bj| cam n}|palm |bmga`|anejc jvvjtj|}p {ba`b pmmip |n nwmtcjv {a|b {bj| qn} jtm |jcoaek jdn}|%

A| lnmp nwmtcjv# qmp aelmml% A |baeo a| {jp Hnbe B}e|cmq {bn {jp jtn}el j| |bm |aim

|bmq {mtm pbnn|aekBmetq Wjel bm pjal |bmtm {jp nem pvmm`b# A |baeo a| {jp |bm

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Nem ng |bm jppap|je|p |bj| A bjl ne nem ng |bm }egaeapbml gacip# j k}q `jccml IaomIjhnt# bjl dmme }v |bmtm mla|aek \bap Mekcjeljel A |baeo {bj| bjl bjvvmeml ap |bj|

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p}llmecq gn}el |bj| |bmq bjl intm {nto |bje |bmq bjl `}||aek tnnip% [bme {m gatp|

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endnlq |nno }p }v ne a|% D}| {a|bae j qmjt Ktjejlj {mtm `jccaek }p# {m {mtm }v |bmtm

jcc |bm |aim% \bm gatp| |baek A lal {jp `nivcm|aek j gaci {bmtm jkjae |bm gaci bjl

nwmtt}e jel |bm mla|nt bjl knem |n {nto ne j gmj|}tm# |bmq bjl |n gael pnimdnlq jel

dq |bap |aim |bmq oem{ jdn}| LEJ pn |bmq `jccml ne im% \bj| {jp gnt Iaom Em{mcc# j

gaci jdn}| j Kjimommvmt ae |bm \bap Mekcjelpmtamp% [bj| {m }pml |n ln inp|cq gnt

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`nim bnim gnt |bm {mmomel% Pn {m kn| |n oen{ jcc |bmpm vmnvcm pnim ng {bni jtm

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{ntoaek ne |bnpm Ktjejlj vtnl}`|anep nt lal a| wjtq ktmj|cq lmvmelaek ne |bm

aelawal}jcp>

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mla|aek {jp |bm hnd ng |bm mla|ntp pn {m jcc |melml |n dm j da| `nòq jdn}| ijoaek p}tm

n}t A oen{ |bj| Lmeap Ia|`bmcc ne nem gaci A {ntoml ne {ba`b {jp vm`}cajtcq

lagga`}c|# bm tmj`bml |bm vnae| {bmtm bm {n}cl `jcc |bm latm`|nt ae |n lap`}pp a| {a|b

bai jel bm {n}cle| cm| im vjt|aàvj|m# vtndjdcq dm`j}pm bm |bn}kb| A {n}cl ommv

`nivcjaeaek jdn}| mwmtq|baek bm pjal% Nem cmjte| ktjl}jccq |n dm j da| intm p}d|cm%

Awm jc{jqp# {a|b nt {a|bn}| p}d|cm|q# |taml |n ijom p}tm |bm gaci {jp jp knnl jp

vnppadcm jel |bj| bjl |n imje jp knnl jp vnppadcm ae iq wam{ {ba`b lnmpe| imje

|bj| A {jp aivmtwan}p |n jeq|baek jeqdnlq mcpm iakb| pjq% Ae gj`| qn} cmjte nwmt |bm

qmjtp |n }pm `ta|aàpi `nep|t}`|awmcq% Ag |bm Mrm`}|awm Vtnl}`mt lnmpe| caom a| km||aekjektq ap |bm {tnek j`|ane% A| ijq en| dm gnt |bm tmjpnep bm bjp kawme d}| |bmtm ap

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gj`| inp| ng |bm |aim |bm latm`|ntp jel mla|ntp {mtm ne |bm pjim palm% A bjl wmtq gm{

p|jel }v tn{p {a|b latm`|ntp dm`j}pm entijccq qn} jtm dn|b |tqaek |n ln |bm pjim

|baek# km| |bm dmp| n}| ng |bm ij|mtajc% J latm`|nt qn} lne| km| ne {a|b ijq bjwm j

laggmtme| almj jdn}| {bj| ap |bm dmp| jel |bj| latm`|nt ijq en| `nim djò |n qn} emr||aim% D}| |bm nemp |bj| ln `nim djò |n qn} emr| |aim mwme |bn}kb ijq bjwm jtk}ml

|bm |npp z}a|m j cn| jdn}| a| ndwan}pcq gmc| pj|apgaml |bj| qn}t bmjt| {jp ae |bm takb|

vcj`m {ba`b {jp ndwan}pcq |bm `jpm {a|b Hmeeaekp jel I`Jccap|mt% \bmq }pml |n bjwm

|mttadcm tn{p d}| bm jc{jqp {me| djò |n I`Jccap|mt jel I`Jccap|mt jc{jqp jktmml |n

{nto {a|b bai pn |bmq i}p| bjwm |bn}kb| |bap |aim a| {acc kn jctakb|%

Pn {bj| bjvvmeml ae |mtip ng ntkjeapj|ane ap |bj| Ktjejlj {n}cl `ne|j`| LjwalEjlme Jppnàj|mp% [m {n}cl pjq# pn jel pn ap jwjacjdcm# ap |bj| jcc takb|> Jel |bmq

{n}cl `bmò {a|b |bm latm`|nt jel pjq qmp pmel |bmi }v% \bmtm {jp pn i}`b {nto }v|bmtm |bj| vmnvcm {mtme| dmaek |nn `bnnpq% Inp| ng |bm p|}gg A lal ne [ntcl ae J`|ane

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Aea|ajccq a| {jp j p}tvtapm% A |baeo |bmtm {jp h}p| tmcamg |bj| |bmtm {jp j pn}t`m ng {nto

dm`j}pm {bme {m p|jt|ml {m jpp}iml |bj| n}t {nto {n}cl dm `}||aek |baekp gnt

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c}òq |n vaò }v pnim ng |bm wmtq knnl [ntcl ae J`|anep% A lal |bm nem ne |bm lmj|b ng

@bm K}mwjtj% A oem{ Dtaje Inpmt dm`j}pm A bjl lnem pnim|baek {jq djò {a|b bai

jel Lmttaò Oeakb|% A `je| tmimidmt {bq |bm nggaàjc [ntcl ae J`|ane mla|nt {jpe|

jwjacjdcm |bj| {mmo d}| |bmtm i}p| bjwm dmme pnim tmjpne jel Dtaje pjal km| bncl ng

Lja |n ln a|%

Lal qn} bjwm j pmepm j| |bj| |aim |bj| qn} {mtm aewncwml ae j |mcmwapane pmtamp |bj|

{jp knaek |n dm tmimidmtml>

Nb qmp# mwmtqdnlq lal% Mwmtqdnlq lal% A| {jp jijxaek# qn} bjl vmnvcm |bmtm# |bmq jccbj|ml mj`b n|bmtp k}|p# d}| {bme a| `jim |n |bm hnd |bmtm {jp z}a|m j tmijtojdcm

mpvta| l`ntvp jdn}| |bj| vcj`m%

Qn} {ntoml ne \bm Lminep|tj|ane# |bm [ntcl ae J`|ane vtnktjiim ne |bm

Ktnpwment Pz}jtm je|a)Wam|eji vtn|mp|% Lal qn} gmmc {ntoaek ne |bj| |bm vtnktjiim

{jp dtmjoaek em{ ktn}el ae |mcmwap}jc cjek}jkm>

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em{ {jqp |n ln |baekp% Jel |bm ijejkmime| |n dm gjat {mtm ne n}t palm# |bmq {je|ml

a| |nn% \bmtm {jp j wmtq p|tjekm gmmcaek ae Ktjejlj% A lne| oen{ {bm|bmt qn} oen{

|bap d}| Palemq Dmtep|mae bjl aepap|ml |bj| mwmtq tnni ae Ktjejlj pbn}cl bjwm j

vnt|tja| ng Djte}i |n tmiael }p ng {bj| {m {mtm tmjccq jdn}|% Qm| ae pva|m ng |bj| bm

jel @màc |nn A p}vvnpm# A lne| oen{ pn i}`b jdn}| bai# jel Lmeap Gntije

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gaciijoaek iakb| j`|}jccq dm vnv}cjt% \bmq lale| pmm jeq `ne|tjla`|ane dm|{mmeLmeap Ia|`bmcc lnaek \bap Mekcjel% \bm almj |bj| qn} pbn}cl dm ktn}eldtmjoaek {jp

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|baeo jc|bn}kb {m lale| tmjcapm a| j| |bm |aim# p|tjekm ae j {jq |bj| n|bmt |mcmwapane

p|j|anep {mtme|% \bm DD@ {mtm vtm||q knnl j| |bj| |aim% B}{ [mclne {jp j knnl

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|n ln {bj| |bmq p}kkmp|ml# jp cnek jp a| {ntoml |bmq {n}cl d}q a|% \bmq {mtm knnl

vmnvcm |n bjwm ae |bnpm vnpa|anep%

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Qn} {n}cl `bjccmekm a| jeq{jq d}| qn} {n}cl vtndjdcq dm |ncl |n kn j{jq jel ijom

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Ln`}ime|jtq |bj| i}`b ng |bm |baeoaek |bj| {me| ae|n |bm mppjqp ae |bj| dnno `jim

n}| ng |bm {nto qn} lal ne |bj| vtnktjiim%

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mjtcamp| vcj`mp {bmtm |bm almj ng gnccn{aek pvne|jemn}p j`|ane {jp `me|tjc |n a|% A|

{jpe| |bm necq |baek dm`j}pm Tnkmt Ktjmg bjl lnem |baekp jp {mcc# A `}| pnim ng

|bmi% D}| nem gntkm|p ae |bm ljqp dmgntmLapjvvmjtaek [ntclgacip jdn}| n|bmt

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jel H}la|b Ij`Ln}kjcc lal dm`j}pm endnlq `jtml bn{ cnek |bmq pvme| {a|bn}|

pbnn|aek% D}| bjwaek |bm je|btnvncnkap| |bmtm pncwml |bj| vtndcmi# jel ag |bmtm {jp

pnim|baek qn} pbn}cle| ln gnt wjtan}p `}c|}tjc tmjpnep# {ba`b qn} {mtm }ej{jtm ng#

|bm je|btnvncnkap| {n}cl pjq lne| ln |bj|%

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{nije pvjtop gtni \bjimp A |baeo dm`j}pm |bmtm {mtm pn gm{ {nime mcm`|taàjep

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ijom hnomp% \bj| ap wmtq i}`b |bm tmcj|anepbav ae |bm `}||aek tnni8 |bm latm`|nt apgntijccq |bm t}caek vjt|q d}| ne |bm n|bmt bjel |bmq jtm ae qn}t tnni }paek qn}t

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pnim mr|me| ap dm|{mme j b}pdjel jel j {agm%

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{bn knmp n}|%

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pakeaga`je`m% Jp je mla|nt qn} |baeo bm ap h}p| |tqaek |n ommv |bm pjel n}| ng bap enpm%

\bmtm jtm lmktmmp ng p}d|cm|q ae |bm pnàjc ae|mtj`|anep jel {a|bn}| |bm je|btnvncnkap|

|bmtm A {n}cle| bjwm oen{e jel bm {jp jdcm |n pjq# vmtbjvp qn} pbn}cl bjwm bai

tjapaek |bm wmac j| |bap vnae|% A bjl |n tmcq ne |bm mrvmt|apm% Jel ae wjtan}p n|bmt |baekp#

pnim|aimp |bmtm {n}cl dm pnim|baek |bj| {n}cle| cnno vjt|a`}cjtcq pakeaga`je| |n im

d}| |bm je|btnvncnkap| nt |bm latm`|nt {bnl jctmjlq aidadml |bm aegntij|ane {n}cl

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pnim {jq ng ijoaek a| {nto%

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a| {tnek# {ba`b ap j pcakb|cq laggmtme| |baek%

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