Co existence of self and body & needs of self & body

Understanding Human being as Coexistence of

Self (‘I’) & Body & Discriminating between the

Needs of the Self (‘I’) and the Body

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RECAP

The need for gaining Right Understanding starting from the Human

Reality and going up to the whole existence has been highlighted in

Module-1.

Let us begin this module by trying to understand "Ourselves" i.e. the

Human Being in correct perspective.

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Self-exploration, Self-investigation

1. Content of Self Exploration:

a. Desire - Aim, Purpose

b. Program– Process of achieving the desire, action

Happiness = To be in Harmony

2. Process of Self Exploration

Self-verification

– Happiness, Prosperity Continuity

To understand Harmony & to live in harmony at all 4 levels:

1. Harmony in the Human Being

2. Harmony in the Family

3. Harmony in the Society

4. Harmony in Nature/Existence

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Here is a Proposal coming up in next slides

We will have discussion on these Proposals in the Class now.

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Human Being Self (I) Body Co-existence

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Are these needs are of different types or of same type?

Are both types of needs important ?

Do we want fulfillment of both types of needs?

What is the priority between the needs of the Self (I) & the needs of the Body?

Human Being Self (I) Body

Need Happiness (e.g. Respect) Physical Facility (e.g. Food)

In Time Continuous Temporary

In Quantity Qualitative (is Feeling) Quantitative (Required in

Limited Quantity)

Co-existence

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The needs of the Body can not be fulfilled by Right Understanding, Right Feelings

The needs of the Self can not be fulfilled by Physio-Chemical Things

Both type of needs have to be understood separately

Both type of needs have to be fulfilled separately

In living, what is the priority? How much time & effort is spent for right understanding & right feelings?

How much time & effort is spent for physical facility?



In Time Continuous

Temporary


Limited Quantity)

Fulfilled By Right Understanding &

Right Feeling

Physio-chemical Things

Co-existence

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Need Happiness (e.g. Respect)

Physical Facility (e.g. Food)



Limited Quantity)

Fulfilled By

Right Understanding &

Right Feeling


Activity

Desire, Thought,

Expectation…

Eating, Walking…


Co-existence

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Limited Quantity)


Right Feeling


Activity

Desire, Thought,

Expectation…

Eating, Walking…


Response Knowing, Assuming,

Recognising, Fulfilling


Co-existence

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Knowing & Assuming

Knowing, Assuming, Recognizing, Fulfilling

Problem

Education-Sanskar

Resolution

Knowing through self-verification

– on the basis of Natural Acceptance &

– on the basis of living accordingly

Assumptions are definite (on the basis

of Knowing)

Conduct is definite (Swatantrata)

Preconditioning or

Assuming without Knowing

Assumptions keep changing

Conduct is indefinite

(Dependence, Partantrata)

Knowing = To see reality as it is (Right Understanding)

Definiteness, Continuity & Universality

Assuming = What am I, what is the other a) human b) rest-of-nature

Recognising = My relationship with the other a) human b) rest-of-nature

Fulfilling = Fulfillment of my relationship with a) human b) rest-of-nature

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Limited Quantity)

Fulfilled By


Right Feeling


Activity

Desire, Thought,

Expectation…

Eating, Walking…





Co-existence

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In Time Continuous

Temporary


Limited Quantity)


Right Feeling


Activity Desire, Thought,

Expectation…

Eating, Walking…





Consciousness pSrU; Material tM

Co-existence

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Need

vko';drk

Happiness (e.g. Respect)

Physical Facility (e.g. Food)

lqfo/kk ¼tSls Hkkstu½

In Time

dky esa

Continuous

Temporary

lkef;d

In Quantity

ek=k esa

Qualitative (is Feeling)

Quantitative (Required in

Limited Quantity)

Ekk=kRed ¼lhfer ek=k esa½

Fulfilled By

iwfrZ ds fy,


Right Feeling


HkkSfrd&jklk;fud oLrq

Co-existence

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The needs of ‘I’ and the Body

The needs of 'I' is Happiness (Sukh), while the need of the Body is

Physical facility (Suvidha).

Feeling like Respect, Trust give Happiness.

Examples of Physical facilities are Food, Clothing etc.,

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The need for Happiness (Sukh) is Continuous, need for Physical

facility (Suvidha) is Intermittent.

Example:- Need for Respect is Continuous, Need for Food is

temporary (Intermittent).

Even Air in breathing is required by the Body intermittently. There is

no need of the body which is continuous.

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The changing pattern of physical needs:

When we try to perpetuate Physical faciltiy (Suvidha), the following pattern results. With time it successively changes from:

Example:- Take any delicious food (Gulabjamoon). In the beginning, it satisfies my hunger and I find it delicious. Here it is Necessary and tasteful.

But once my stomach is full – I find it difficult to eat though I still enjoy the taste. Now it is Unnecessary but tasteful.

If I still continue to eat – I do not enjoy the taste anymore. At this point it is Unnecessary and tasteless.

If I still go on, it becomes Intolerable.

Necessary and tasteful Unnecessary but tasteful

Unnecessary and tasteless Intolerable

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Feeling and its Expression are two different things:

We want the continuity of any naturally acceptable feeling (value) but

not the continuity of its expression.

For example – when I visit a friend, he treats me with Respect by

shaking me by my hand. But what if he does not let go off my hand

after sometime?

Shaking hands is only any expression of Respect and not Respect in it

iteself!

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Happiness (Sukh) is qualitative whereas Physical faciltiy (Suvidha) is

quantitative:

Example: The notion of quantity does not apply to Happiness (Sukh).

For exmple, one cannot say that one needs 5 Kg of Trust or 2 metres

of Respect. But one does quntify the food, clothes, means of

transport etc.,

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• Happiness (Sukh) is ensured by Right Understanding and Right

Feelings, while Physical facility (Suvidha) is ensured by appropriate

Physico-chemical Things:

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RELATIONSHIP

with human beings

PHYSICAL FACILITY

with rest of nature

RIGHT UNDERSTANDING

in the self

MUTUAL HAPPINESS MUTUAL PROSPERITY

3 2

1

For human beings:

necessary but

not adequate

For animals:

necessary &

adequate

Priority: Right Understanding, Relationship & Physical Facility

Feelings

- Trust

- Respect

- …

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Human Being needs both – Happiness (Sukh) and Physical

Facility (Suvidha). One can not replace the other.

Example: If I visit a friend – my desire is that he treats me with

Respect as well as provides food/water for my hungry/thirsty body.

Imagine - I visit a friend and he provides me with lots of delicious food

but treats me with Disrespect. How would I feel?

There is another friend who treats me with utmost warmth but does

not even ask me for water. How would I feel in this situation?

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A common mistake is that we mix the two sets: Happiness (sukh)

and Physical facility (suvidha).

Working for Physical facility (Suvidha), we assume that it will ensure

Happiness (Sukh), while we need to work for Happiness (Sukh) and

Physical facility (Suvidha).

But the programs for the two are qualitatively different. One cannot

ensure the other.

Where are we investing most of our time presently? – Working for

Physical facilities, or working for Right Understanding and Right

feelings?

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Gross Misunderstandings we have today are:

X

X

X

BODY = ‘ I ‘

CLOTHES = RESPECT

FACILITIES = HAPPINESS

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Shouting

Anger

Batting eyelids

Scratching

Chewing

Dancing

Heart Beat

Breathing

Dreaming

Thinking

Walking

Eating

Going on in Body,

with consent of I

I & Body both are

involved

Going on in IActivity

Shouting

Anger

Batting eyelids

Scratching

Chewing

Dancing

Heart Beat

Breathing

Dreaming

Thinking

Walking

Eating

Going on in Body,

with consent of I

I & Body both are

involved


√

√

√

√

√

√

√

√√

√

√

√

√

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Shouting

Anger

Batting eyelids

Scratching

Chewing

Dancing

Heart Beat

Breathing

Dreaming

Thinking

Walking

Eating

Going on in Body,

with consent of I

I & Body both are

involved


Shouting

Anger

Batting eyelids

Scratching

Chewing

Dancing

Heart Beat

Breathing

Dreaming

Thinking

Walking

Eating

Going on in Body,

with consent of I

I & Body both are

involved


√

√

√

√

√

√

√

√√

√

√

√

√

If we are only thinking about eating, only I is involved

When we think and do something, both are involved

If we dream and sleep walk, both are involved

In getting angry and expressing it, both are involved

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Summary

• Human being is a co-existence of Self (I) and Body

• Self (I) is consciousness. Its needs are feelings in consciousness (like

happiness) and these needs are fulfilled by activity of consciousness, i.e.

Right Understanding & Right Feelings

• Body is material. Its needs are material (like food) and these needs are

fulfilled by material, i.e. Physio chemical things

• The needs of consciousness can not be fulfilled by material

• The needs of material can not be fulfilled by consciousness

• The recognition & fulfillment of the body is definite

• The recognition & fulfillment in the self (I) is on the basis of knowing,

assuming

If the assumption is based on knowing, the assumption is correct and the

recognition & fulfillment is correct definite conduct

If the assumption is without knowing, the assumption may or may not be

correct & the recognition & fulfillment is uncertain indefinite conduct

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SUMMARY

The need of 'I' is Happiness (Sukh), the need of the body is Physical

facilities (Suvidha). The two needs are different, and the programs to

ensure the two are also different. One can not replace the other.

Co existence of self and body & needs of self & body

Self Improvement

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