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Jeff Pool, a Pentagon spokesman.

The flight was conducted on 9 January and the

Chinese vehicle, dubbed the WU-14, is supposed to

travel at Mach 10, or 10 times the speed of sound,

according to a report in the Washington Free Beacon,

an online publication.

The Chinese state-run broadcaster China RadioInternational quoted the defence ministry information

off ice as saying: "China's planned domestic scientific

research and experiments are normal and are not

aimed at any country or target."

It did not explicitly confirm or deny the test.

In its annual report on China's military the Pentagon

made no mention of hypersonic test flights but did say

the Chinese had built a hypersonic wind tunnel for

experiments.

China's surging economic power has been matched by

increasing military might, including investments in an

aircraft carrier, anti-ship ballistic missiles, satellites and

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Three Republican lawmakers including the House

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called a "Chinese hypersonic cruise missile" and said

the US military was falling behind.

"While round after round of defence cuts have

knocked America's technological advantage on its

back, the Chinese and other competitor nations push

toward military parity with the United States; in some

cases, as in this one, they appear to be leaping ahead

of us," they said.

"This situation does nothing to support peaceful

coexistence in the Pacific," added the statement, also

signed by representatives Randy Forbes and Mike

Rogers.

The US has placed a high priority on hypersonic

projects, spending $200m in the 2013 fiscal year on

three programmes while conducting a number of test

flights.

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.."This situation does nothing to support peaceful coexistence in thePacific," added the statement, also signed by representatives RandyForbes and Mike Rogers..

Howdare the Chinese dowhat the US has done, the United States position to China ismuch the same as it is to the rest of the world - Don't do what we do - Do what we say!

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No wonder Howard McKeon expressed concern. McKeons campaignshavereceived the greatest financial support from the defense industry, especiallyaerospace companies such as Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, andBoeing.

Cant we just go back to blaming the Chinese for all the cyberattacks and


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pretend the NSA doesn't exist.

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"While round after round of defence cuts have knocked America'stechnological advantage on its back, the Chinese and other competitornations push toward military parity with the United States

What a joke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures


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RomanianOutsider BonkIfYouHonk

That list indicates a couple of things:

- the people working for these american corporations are paid huge salaries,think of 100K-200K+ USD a year. So a huge chunk of the money USspends goes just to salaries of the people working there. Remember EdSnowden had a 200,000 USD per year salary.

And he wasn't this genious IT guy. I bet that Einstein-like individuals workingfor the American MIC are paid huge money.

- China spends way less, but salaries in China are way lower and Chineseare motivated more by the propaganda that they work for the Chinesemilitary

I still think that USA is ahead of China in regards to technology, but not bymuch.What Americans gain by throwing huge amounts of money at a certainproblem, the Chinese gain by being very motivated (due to propaganda) anddisciplined.Just because the Americans spend soo much money on their military itdoesn't make them invincible. If that were the case Afganistan and Iraqwould be closed cases. They are not.


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"Just because the Americans spend soo much money on their military it

doesn't make them invincible. "

Remember Vietnam?


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It's pretty weird to consider that in much of the world today, for example Syria,massive destruction and casualties are being caused by conventional (and chemicalin Syria's case) weapons. Meanwhile, the advanced nations conduct warfare bypilotless military vehicles and robots, while planning to militarise space and no doubtwill soon be able to vapourise targets on earth with beam weapons. Drones will soonbecome no more than mosquito bites.

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pitiless vehicles and drones and robots.Thats the point.


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The Japanese have one with a pilot!


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Not cool dude.


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Al-Qaeda don't even need planes.

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What we really need BUT will not get is a discompassionate authority for the worldthat we live in. Forget the UN as it is located in US and hence subject to theirbullying in even deciding on the SECGEN. I do not think that any one who does notagree to the whims and fancies of that superpower would be acceptable at the UN


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RomanianOutsider Rama Murthi

Can you name one super power, one empire in the past that was benevolenttowards the world??


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There is none.

It doesn't matter what UN-like organization we invent. The most powerfulempire that will exist will influence that organization.

All empires thought they were exceptional.They all thought they are doing their gods' work.

And they all eventually felt and crumbled from within. Social and moraldecay. The same is happeningto the US now.

crystaltips2 Rama Murthi

Forget the UN as it is located in US and hence subject to theirbullying in even deciding on the SECGEN. I do not think that anyone who does not agree to the whims and fancies of thatsuperpower would be acceptable at the UN

Er, what? China and Russia are both on the Security Council too. It's one ofthe reasons nothing ever gets done.

16 January 2014 10:54am

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DeleteThisPost RomanianOutsider

All empires thought they were exceptional.

Well to be fair, most empires were exceptional. That's how they got to be

empires.

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kev3334

Well I guess Europe better learn Chinese because you know they'll surrender thefirst chance they get.


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Ursultana kev3334

China has no bitch with Europe .They have hundreds , if not thousands ofyears of good trade relations along the silk roads and so ,even into Africawith all their neighbours.There was no trouble at all untill the opium warsforced omn them ,the stealing of their tea ,stealing , outright theft, and thedestruction of their Monarchy by republicans.China never bothered any otherpeople really ,just quietly didtheir own thing ,very well,and built a wall tokeep troublemakers out.Pity , for peace that they got in through the openfront door.


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dinfr31 kev3334

What?


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theonionmurders kev3334


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wicker2026

The west has been able to 'influence' world events for over 20 years without muchinterference from opposing foreign powers. This just proves predictions that all that isslowly coming to an end. I don't believe for one moment that it means China oranother will want to land grab, but it certainly means that events like the invasion ofIraq and Afghanistan will not be achievable by the west anymore. We will become


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powerless bystanders.

kev3334 wicker2026

People have said that since the 50's. We're still here.


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Ursultana wicker2026

Umm Iam really confused here.Who is the Opposing Powers --supposed tobe , really ,ignoring rhetoric in news sources of profit driven private ownersand politically "correct" publications of reinforcement of social norms?


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zchabj5 Ursultana


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duke_widin

Congratulations to China, will the FED print more money now?


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colddebtmountain

"Nah-nah, I can start Armageddon much faster than you can...."


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Ursultana colddebtmountain

I dare you!Hahahaha


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kev3334

I'm surprised that people who aren't anti-American leftists are allowed to post here.


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Ursultana kev3334

Well ,and what about anti american rightists?Where do they post? TheNorth Pole?Is Santa their guide?Idont undersrtand what you mean to say.


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LeftOrRightSameShite kev3334

I'm surprised that people who aren't anti-American leftists areallowed to post here.

Could you define "anti-American"?


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Zhubajie Ursultana

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ow more rep es as repy: anuary : am

Ursultana

Chinas radio station ???? neither confirmed nor denied it ----The Radio statiopn is thesource now of government top secret information ---Oh Pleeeeeease "Havent wesuffered enough?"Marie Antoinette 1791


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acasey333

Peace or Piece?

..... "This situation does nothing to support peaceful coexistence in the Pacific,"added the statement, also signed by representatives Randy Forbes and MikeRogers..

The US version of peace is actually piece; piece of coexistence. Piece of everythingand everywhere; taking from others and giving to themselves. Countries seekpeaceful resolutions among themselves settling disputes internally. The US is theonly country conquesting worldwide seeking a piece to take from others.

China seeks peace for themselves denying the US its piece of the take.


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slightlycritical acasey333

Peace, piece...didnt really work, did it?

Prefer that sign on the M25 'Give peas a chance'.

Carry on


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Livingtale acasey333

acasey333, Bravo! I wanted to say something similiar -- but couldn't havesaid better -- and you beat me to posting such a comment.


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RomanianOutsider acasey333

Very well put.

You are describing the current most powerful empire's way of handling worldaffairs.When Russia or China or Tadjikistan or Jamaica will get to be the world'smost powerful empire things will be the same.

It's our human history on this planet.It will stay that way until humanity disappears from this Planet.


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godsend

Well done China.The USA has for too long been the unchallenged "Playground Bully", ridingroughshod over the World.In my experience, "Americans" are the friendliest a and most welcoming people inthe World, but are let down by their Government, which is controlled by Lobbyists ofthe Military Industrial Complex.Food Aid through USAID is wonderful, and much appreciated, but "Aid" by supplyingweapons to subvert independent regimes is not so great.


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Having two playground bullies instead of one is hardly improvement. Ifanything, the bullies will beat up the rest of the kids and force them to takesides.

LudicrousPrune godsend

Well done China.

Yeah, brilliant.

The USA has for too long been the unchallenged "PlaygroundBully", riding roughshod over the World.

So we're supposed to jump for joy because the Chinese have started an armsrace with the USA?


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youngdand

if it were me, i think i would have made my test the white house and pentagon.


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ID6112901

I am really sorry to alarm or disconcert anyone but China has made it's land grab.

They have most of the money that the mega corps don't and most mineral producingnations and many smaller are completely in hoc to them.

The neo cons and us government have been playing the stupidest game ever

Live by the sword, die by the sword

Fools all


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fumamborn

Cue a dour Hague on telly condeming China for escalating the arms race anddemanding a UN weapons inspection .


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pynchon

'Mr. President, we must not allow a hypersonic gap!' Nothing's changed since Dr.Strangelove, except the name of the opposing country.

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Archonate pynchon

'Mr. President, we must not allow a hypersonic gap!' Nothing'schanged since Dr. Strangelove, except the name of the opposingcountry.

My thought, too. First we had the "bomber gap." Then after billions had beenspent on unneeded strategic bombers, we discovered the "missile gap," andlaunched a new round of military-industrial-complex profiteering on a vast

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scale. It was all based on lies and cooked-up statist ics, but it worked a treatto enrich the liars.

So now we'll have to have a hypersonic missile race, and when that's paidout all its dividends, we'll suddenly notice that the Chinese have built a baseon the moon. Beware the deadly moon gap!



thesensiblechoice

China hasn't much of a history of ,military adventurism overseas. The problems maycome when its aerospace and defence industries become hooked on (covert) statesubsidies in the way they have in the US, along with the intense political lobbying,backhanders,the frequent military deployments, shooting off of weapons andsubsequent reordering and restocking.


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Zhubajie thesensiblechoice

For details, see the Cambridge History of China, 18 vols., I believe. Chinesecivilization is based on food and education, my native US', I fear, is basedon constant warfare and the elimination of "lesser breeds outside the law."

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crystaltips2 Zhubajie

Have you ever thought that perhaps, sometimes, people and countries don'talways do what they used to? Britain had no history of running a globalempire, until they did. The Egyptians used to build pyramids, now theydon't.

16 January 2014 11:54am3

wrc33 crystaltips2

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ThePlimptonPlopper

Clearly then, we need one that does mach 11


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chalkandcheese

A fast missile? That's it, the U.S. is no longer #1, China's going to invade everyone,the chance for Peace is long gone, we should've listened to George Bush's son,clearly the east has won, in my bunker built for one, time for some fun.


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hertsred

And when they get this working, that is the end of the US ability to guarantee thedefence of taiwan, unless they are prepared to promise nuclear war. The ships in anyUS fleet will be too vulnerable to prevent China using force if they choose to take theisland. Which in itself changes the political calculus enormously.


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Oflife hertsred

You may remember that over the last few years there were reports of varioustest launches of some top secret American mini (unmanned) shuttle thathas been orbiting the Earth on and off since then. Be assured, the US will

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have next generation (space) weapons for revelation when they are neededto target anything airborne, even if flying at Mach 20. I don't think Americaworries about a physical Chinese invasion, more that it's values permeatinginto Western society, so that repression becomes the norm, like it is in theUK. Just try contesting a minor parking ticket and see how cold, distant andautomaton like a UK traffic warden is, and then fighting the ticket - anightmare! Imagine this with more and more state employees, such ascouncil workers, police etc, it's bad enough already!

That is what the US is worried about, and so they should be and so shouldyou.

WhistlingNeil hertsred

Congrats for the only comment which gets the real significance.

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creel

peaceful coexistence

A fresh and as yet unannounced policy initiative from the US? More explanationplease, for this will present as brilliant news in the ME. Or is the ME excluded?


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Claus-Erik Hamle

The big problem is that the US aims to replace MAD with Disarming First StrikeCapability. The great missile engineer Robert C. Aldridge resigned because it leadsto Launch On Warning and Suicide and wrote The Counterforce Syndrome, FirstStrike! The Pentagon's Strategy For Nuclear War (also available in German, Frenchand Danish) and Nuclear Empire (ch. 9 on Anti-Submarine Warfare). GPS (earliercalled NAVSTAR) was made for Minuteman-3 and Trident-2 to be able to hit Russian

(and Chinese) missile silos accurately. Missile engineer Bob Aldridge-www.plrc.orgon the missiles in Romania, Poland and on 32 ships in the Mediterranean Sea:Whether they are on ships or land, they are still a necessary component for anunanswerable first s trike. Disarming First Strike Capability is Suicidal. So, GeneralHarbottle told me: They are bloody fools in the Pentagon! European Phased Adaptive

Approach is s leepwalking to Suicide.


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ID6001646

From sticks , stones, bows and arrows to hypersonic missiles; humans have learnthow to destroy each other many times over in the past few thousand years, butcuriously over the same period have learnt nothingabout how to avoid conflict and

create peace and harmony. What vile little creatures we are.


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Elliott666 ID6001646

I'm not so sure. Europe seems pretty peaceful these days.


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RomanianOutsider Elliott666

Really?

Yuogoslavia, Kosovo, Transnistria, Cyprus?

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wimberlin

The US has not been lacking in finding ways to kill people half-way around the globequickly.

What it clearly is lack ing is moral and political justification for its internationalbellicosity.

Howard "Buck" McKeon would better spend his time taking a philosophy or a historyprogramme at a University where he can calmly see that great powers in history diequickly from the weight of their own hubris.

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Oflife wimberlin

America only kills people in nations that are run by dictators or have acolonial instinct. America is NOT like that. Their airbases are there to stopnations like Germany and Japan from resorting to old ways. Having been avictim of British repressive rule in the 1700s, so they never want toexperience anything like that again, and I cannot blame them really.(Speaking as a Brit.)

America may have bases in foreign lands, but it has not injected it's cultureinto those nations. Germany is a non trashy ultra left wing green nationleading the world. Japan is turning out the world's most reliable consumerproducts and cars. Both nations are still however very much based on thelanguages and cultures of their past. Not so the UK. Where we haveinvaded, we have converted nations to our language (India etc!) and installedsome fairly repressive values, hence the way they treat their people is fairlyappalling.

I have no time for the lies about America. I lived there for 10 years, andwhilst like ANY country there are some nasty people (most in old school

greedy industries like Big Pharma and big oil), your typical government repor man in the street has ethics and values way better than either the UK orChina. Yes, it's trashy, but there are many Americans who hate that and areembarrassed about it. (Most tend to live in Silicon Valley or New York andare engaged in designing whole new ways to live based on garden cityconcepts.) Etc!

All said, I'm optimistic China will adapt in particular due to the level ofenvironmental pollution there that no doubt affects even the politicians, sothey will need to become more compassionate and liberated if they are toallow private sector technical innovation to solve their environmentalproblems. Phew!

16 January 2014 10:46am

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Zhubajie Oflife

You must live in an alternate universe. My native USA goes to war every fewyears, usually in some non-white developing country, and kills largenumbers of civilians. Usually there is lots of raping and torturing, too. Mycountry's leaders *install* dictators, Reasons: not the pious excuses aboutfreedom and democracy our leaders make. Probably a combination of profitand blood lust. Sometimes I think my native USA is ruled by Daleks, whoonly want to destroy. :-(

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greysky

I wonder if the wits at the Pentagon will nickname this plane, 'The Fortune Cookie'?


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Centaurus2005

Well deserved, why die we industrialize China? Yes, greed now we have a problem..


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Elliott666

Britain may be on the right track doing without an aircraft-carrier. Between this andRussia's Sunburn missiles any high-value target of this kind is liable to last about 15minutes in any confrontation.


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EGriff Elliott666

True.

Did you know it is forbidden to 'sink' aircraft carriers in US Navy exercises -or it would reveal just how vulnerable they are.

16 January 2014 10:29am

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Elliott666 EGriff

Oh, well, that's alright then. They can prosecute the Chinese later.

16 January 2014 12:11pm

losttheremote

"This situation does nothing to support peaceful coexistence in the

Pacific,"

i.e. US military superiority.


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SCFCAlex

For how long will the global population put up with global inequality, the onset of aglobal metabolic catastrophe, and the proliferation of a new global arms race - all inthe name of "dog eat dog", Neo Darwinist storytelling? If this really is the "leastworst" social model, as the radical Leftist Ed Miliband has been known to describeit, we are very much in the most labyrinth "clusterfuck" in the history of human life onearth. It does not bode well that progress under capitalism is best exemplified by thedevelopment of missiles that kill you before the remote control operator realises he

has pressed the button. Moreover, arms is the most celebrated and consistentreceiver of public funding. In 1997, Tony Blair claimed that "things can only getbetter." And it did. As a global peacemaker and Goldman Sachs consultant, he isdone bloody well for himself. For the rest of us there awaits the cross hairs of "Marsattacks" s tyled weaponry. Growth growth growth!


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AenimaUK SCFCAlex

Indeed, though to be fair, China is not growing 'for growth's sake'. It'sgrowing because there are still millions and millions of Chinese people livingin poverty in undeveloped areas of the country, areas which cannot bedeveloped without money and assistance from the central government fortransport, electricity, water, investment in jobs, training, education,healthcare, housing, etc. Money which has to come from somewhere, i.e.

economic rowth in other areas of the countr includin manufacturin for


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,export. And during this time China has to be able to defend itself from theUS, which has shown itself quite capable of engineering wars around theworld to protect its dominant economic position.

Come back when China's per capita GDP is anywhere near a Western leveland you might have a point.

Of course, in terms of the West (and Japan, etc), you're absolutely right.

SeeNOevilHearNOevil

While round after round of defence cuts have knocked America'stechnological advantage on its back, the Chinese and other competitornations push toward military parity with the United States; in some cases,as in this one, they appear to be leaping ahead of us," they said.

What a pile of rubbish!! But hardly surprising as these corrupt clowns work for thearms dealers. US spends more than then the top 5 countries with the highestmilitary spending put together including ofcourse China and Russia! Infact theamounts are so insane that when the pentago ''looses'' 100Bbn so one bats aneyelid.US has a huge technological advantage compared to everyone else...so much thatit's not even funny. There is a reason all UN interventions are led by the US and noone else dares to do anything similar....see Russia's attempt in Chechnya and whatlosses they took....


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Leviathanial

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.


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wimberlin Leviathanial

Sign up for Mars!


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hudsonmohicaine Leviathanial

me neither! Want to build a hypersonic vehicle with me and we can visit thecosmos?

16 January 2014 12:59pm

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muscleguy

Welcome to the first skirmishes in Cold War II because the US cannot tolerate notbeing the biggest bully in the block.


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Trebopala FoxyProvocateur

You mean China will have bases everywhere in the planet, and will startwars of aggression against their old vassals, because they don't do as told?

And if to be a super power means to have nuclear weapons capable ofdestroying the rest of the planet in 30 minutes, they have them already, onlynot in the quantities of the Old Feudal Lord.

Anyway, the Old Feudal Lord is already in a tantrum, because there is a

16 January 2014 10:47am

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hypersonic missile gap.

Icarusty Trebopala

You forgot complete US intelligence assimilation into the backbone of theinternet.

16 January 2014 11:05am

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Zhubajie muscleguy

16 January 2014 11:06am

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DoctorKellogg

The US annual defence budget for this type of weapon is less than the cost of asingle Boeing 787? Hardly seems a priority...


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Alex Wijaya DoctorKellogg

no black budget for this? it is outrageous

16 January 2014 10:37am

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FhnuZoag DoctorKellogg

I guess they can divert some money away from pointless luxuries likehospitals and schools to cover this.

16 January 2014 11:06am

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Isitreallythatbad

What makes me chuckle is the Chinese probably hacked there way into somecompany firm and "borrowed" some development data on the subject.

Could the rest world handle a war with China, Russia and all the other tin pot nationson there side.


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Icarusty Isitreallythatbad

Not as funny the time the Americans promised money and amnesty to anyRussian pilots who would fly their MiGs into US airspace so they can"borrow" the schematics for it, since their aviation technology was so poor.

16 January 2014 11:04am

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turk_thrust Icarusty

the mig 25? soviet counter intelligence had managed to convince the USthey some seriously advanced hardware, when they got to have a look at itin real life they saw it was a piece of junk.the soviets were decades behind the US in advanced electronics. theyshould never have manufactured electronics outside of the US, it gave ahuge scientific advantage away to its enemies.

16 January 2014 12:42pm

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Icarusty turk_thrust

If it was a piece of junk, why did they swipe technology away from it to beused on all their future aircraft? In addition to giving asylum to the pilot who


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defected (along with the jet)

nadraz

With the end of the cold war, the winding down of the large-scale "war onterror/brown people", the US arms industry needs to create a new enemy, real ornot, to justify defence spending, R&D and new weapons programes, and also tocounter any potential budget loss....what better way to achieve that then get paid forpoliticians to resurrect the old "we're falling behind" paranoia


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fry10d

Now that we are watching the decline of the North American empire we had betterwatch out for power grabs by the Pentagon and all the people who work for it in theSenate and Congress.

16 January 2014 10:15am

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Alex Wijaya

The yanks can take their Asian pivot back to where it belong, the trash can.

16 January 2014 10:36am

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Zhubajie

The US is bankrupt, but we have to waste more money on *another* arms race! Sendthese Congressmen to one of those secret prisons they authorized a year or twoago, to be held until they grow some brains (that is, forever)!

16 January 2014 10:46am

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Trebopala

Ah, there is a hypersonic Missile gap. Duck and Cover.

16 January 2014 10:51am

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paulmaso

I think that is highly unlikely that the Chinese are ahead of the US of Hypersonicdevelopment - the US have conducted numerous tests over the last few years(publicly known tests have shown a mixed level of success), and it is extremelylikely that classified technology is several generations ahead of what we know. In allprobability the US have a working weapon now.

16 January 2014 10:59am

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Icarusty

The very fact that the Pentagon has tabs on every single Chinese "advanced"technology shows us they are not really worrying. When the Chinese test somethingand the US go "woah, what was that?" - then the western world has something tofear.

16 January 2014 11:01am

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RomanianOutsider Icarusty

Valid point.

But consider an alternative point:

- the Chinese develop secretely advanced technology ( remember theChinese submarine that just poped under an US aircraft carrier near the

coast of California, the missile technology to shoot down american

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satellites, this hypersonic missile, the Chinese stealth fighter plane)

- then they make "public" tests just so that the americans know what theythe Chinese are capable of. Think of it as a way to show the Americans"hey we are not as weak as your warmongering armchair MIC lobbyists aresaying, if you fuck with us we can definitely inflict huge amounts of pain onyou"

All these tests the Chinese are making public are made public so that theAmericans know. Which means that the technology is well tested prior. Andprobably functions well.

Icarusty RomanianOutsider

Er, you said my point was valid and then counter it with one that basicallysays it isn't - like I said before, all those "advanced" technologies you referto - the US have tabs on. The stealth plane, shooting down satellites etc. isnothing new.


RicardoRed99

Scrap HS2!

16 January 2014 11:24am

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Andrew Clarke

Will they deliver my takeaway super fast now?

16 January 2014 11:29am

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Oblivious_Chinese

"This situation does nothing to support peaceful coexistence in thePacific," added the statement, also signed by representatives RandyForbes and Mike Rogers.

Out of curiosity: What if the U.S. had been success ful in its hypersonic endeavor?

Would it mean that the peaceful coexistence would be guaranteed? Lol. I can bet thatwouldn't be the point of view of more than half of the planet's audience, especially fromthe ordinary civilians.

16 January 2014 11:57am

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AXWE08

When the US military launches a vehicle such as this it hardly rates a mention now,but, Oh Dear! when China does the same thing we are supposed to quake in ourshoes and stump up more money for the Milliatry Industrial Complex, all so that wecan carry on shopping in saftey.

16 January 2014 11:57am

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Ancientcoptic

And the source, 'Washington Free Beacon,' I have trouble believing this.

The U.S just passed a (including typical mammoth defense spending) budget, andcoincidentally, some form of action that validates it normally crops up...

Even the alleged confirmed reports from a Chinese official, painted as confirmation ofthis weaponry being is use, is not confirmed specifically in quotes.

Then again, why would China confirm or deny - it would make no sense to rule it outfrom their perspective.

So, when does construction begin of the U.S. east coast missile shield, I wonder...

16 January 2014 12:12pm

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simplecountryboy

Didn't the Muslims invent these in the 1100s?

16 January 2014 12:12pm

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MikeCope simplecountryboy

Of course they did.


FOARP

My inner ten-year-old: " COOOOOOL!!!"

My inner lover of Taiwan: "Oh-oh!"

16 January 2014 12:23pm

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FlowerPUA

Is everyone forgetting that America tested, a missile capable of Mach 10 two years

ago? This is China catching up not overtaking...

16 January 2014 12:32pm

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Alex Wijaya FlowerPUA

But that is against yellow peril propaganda. The US has the right to developwhatever weapon that can bring Armageddon but others can't.


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RedsInTheBed FoxyProvocateur

"The US is the greatest country the world has ever seen"

Hahaha, you guys just crack me up with your odd sense of humour.Brilliant.


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