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www.carbonlimited.org
Matt Prescott, CarbonLimited director
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This evening’s format
Matt Prescott, director, CarbonLimited
Introduction from Matt Prescott, Project Director, CarbonLimited
Peter Jones OBE discusses the origins and importance of personal carbon trading
Matt Prescott, RSA, presents main CarbonLimited research findings
Michael King, Atos Origin, outlines the key findings from the ‘carbon card’ trial
Matt Prescott, RSA, describes the next steps
Q&A
Open discussion and networking
Close
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www.carbonlimited.org
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
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Origins of CarbonLimited
Meeting with Colin Challen and the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research
Peter Jones proposals to RSA Council/ Trustees
Criteria for new programmes – Innovative, Inclusive, Pertinent, Wide ranging
Tyndall Centre report
Project and steering group formed, January
Launch by David Miliband, former Environment Minister, October
2005
2005
2005
2005
2006
2006
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
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Arctic ice melts at record levels
This satellite image shows the Arctic sea ice spread on September 21, 2005, when it dropped to the lowest extent yet recorded. The yellow outline indicates where the concentration of ice was as of September 21, 1979.
Source: AFP
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
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Government and resource efficiency: The delivery landscape
GOVERNMENT
TASKS
Parameters/LCABest scienceIPPC/planningTechnology footprintsLicensingDataBPEO
CARBONCOMMISSION
Improved resource efficiencyLower carbon footprintingData capture transparency
Economic growthMinimal inflationary impact
Improved R&D/innovation strategySkills and employment issues
Light touch regulationEfficient local government
implementation
POLICIES
Data capture systemTraded Permits
structuresEconomic frameworks
Public educationRegional strategies
R&D/innovation policiesSkills and employment
supply
RESOURCESCOMMISSION
TASKS
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Carbon obligations framework
10% renewable energy target
4.5% achieved
12.5% reduction from offices relative to 1999
Carbon Reduction Commitment on road vehicles and corporates
Local authority pollution permit trading
Closure of 35% electrical capacity from 45 year old plants
Community Carbon Reduction Commitments on Local Authorities
20% CO2 reduction; 16% energy/35% electricity from renewable sources
50% / 60% / 80% CO2 reduction
2010
(2008)
2010-11
2011
2012
2015
2016
2020
2050
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
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Local Authority challenges
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
Landfill Allowance Trading Scheme
Carbon Footprint from the Community Nottingham Agreement
Renewable energy assistance and Energy Savings Trust support
2011-12
2010
ongoing
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Carbon and biomass to landfill 2007
Plastic 5%Paper & card
10%
Household carbon/garden
& kitchen & DIY 30%Food chain,
pubs & restaurants 25%
Timber 30%
Source: Biffa estimates
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
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Source: DTI
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The interest from government
All embracing inclusivity
Egalitarianism
Involving
Inter-active
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Questions remain
Communication
Rural poor
Propertied pensioners
Transparency and complexity
Buy in
“But it’s a tax!”
Peter Jones, CarbonLimited advisor
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www.carbonlimited.org
Matt Prescott, CarbonLimited director
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Providing the right lifestyle signals?
Matt Prescott, Director, CarbonLimited
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Decarbonising the economy?
Matt Prescott, Director, CarbonLimited
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The question of equity
Matt Prescott, Director, CarbonLimited
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The question of public acceptability
Don’t want to get stitched up
High cost to delivery?
Complicated
Price volatility
Positive about the allowance as a normative signal
Don’t believe a carbon tax would be hypothecated
Feels fairer – more effective
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A question of economics
In practical policy making, the response to these [behavioural]
barriers has been the imposition of multiple economic
instruments on the same unit of energy or along the
same energy consumption chain, precisely because
politically expedient application of upstream instruments
do not appear to provide sufficient rationale for
organisations or individuals to change behaviour
downstream.
Dr Andy Kerr
www.rsacarbonlimited.org
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A question of economics
…Supplier Obligation that will create an absolute emissions or
energy cap on household energy suppliers. Whilst the details
have yet to be agreed,
a key challenge for the policy is to avoid a
misalignment between liability and responsibility:
suppliers will hold the liability for capping emissions/energy,
whilst the responsibility for emissions lies in the activities of
householders.
Dr Andy Kerr
www.rsacarbonlimited.org
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A question of economics
For a personal carbon trading scheme to be
more effective, it must break down the
barriers to the efficient functioning of these
economic instruments
Dr Andy Kerr
www.rsacarbonlimited.org
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Real-time Personal Carbon
Michael King, Atos Origin
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Locating this research within Personal Carbon Trading
The creation, division and allocation of the carbon budget
The utilisation of this allowance – capturing carbon emissions and updating a carbon account
The trading of surplus and additional credits on the market
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Capturing the utilisation of carbon – 5 options were researched…
The ‘Miliband carbon card’
Credit and debit cards
Pre-pay cards
Loyalty card schemes e.g. Nectar, Clubcard
Fuel cards
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The strengths and weaknesses of the 5 options – an example with road fuel (1)
Card company (Individual’s
bank or building society)
Individual purchases fuel
Credit / Debit card presented
Loyalty Card presented
Carbon Card presented
Transaction data
Cash / cheque presented
66%1
Note: process flows derived from APACS1. Source: Payments Council Consumer Payments Survey
32%1
Transaction data
Loyalty company
Card scheme (e.g. Visa,
MasterCard)Acquirer (retailer’s
bank)
Transaction data
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The strengths and weaknesses of the 5 options – an example with road fuel (2)
Card company (Individual’s
bank or building society)
Individual purchases fuel
Credit / Debit card presented
Loyalty Card presented
Carbon Card presented
Transaction data
Cash / cheque presented
66%1
32%1
Transaction data
Loyalty company
Card scheme (e.g. Visa,
MasterCard)Acquirer (retailer’s
bank)
Transaction dataCredit, debit pre-pay, fuel cards
Loyalty cards Carbon card
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The strengths and weaknesses of the 5 options – an example with road fuel (3)
Loyalty cards
Credit cards etc.
Point of Sale
changes
Retail staff training
Retail “opportunity
costs”
Transaction process
costs
Carbon card costs
Notes: Absolute figures are not presented here. This approach seeks to show the different cost profiles of each option
Carbon card
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The Pilot – an automated real-time Personal Carbon Calculator
Demonstrate the real-time capture of an individual’s actual fuel purchases.
With accepted limitations
Objective
Not simulating a UK-wide personal carbon allowance and trading scheme.
If people are unable to use BP stations or want to ‘hide’ their emissions bypurchasing fuel elsewhere then we accept that as a limitation of the project.
We did not seek a demographically representative sample of the UK – our sample of volunteers was randomly self-selected and we accept that the group may or may not represent the wider UK population.
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The Pilot Solution
(2) For RSA Carbon pilot volunteers fuel transaction information (volume and grade) is extracted. (3) Fuel transaction
(fuel volume and grade) is passed back to CarbonDAQ.
(1) Volunteer registers for the pilot by entering their Nectar details on CarbonDAQ.
(4) Fuel data is converted to emissions for presentation to users
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Lessons learnt – anecdotal
“Sounds terrific. i'm [sic] realistic about limitations, it's really about being able to come clean about the full footprint. Any step is a good step in my book.”
The green segment is real and it welcomes the support.
“I drive 30k+ miles a yr [sic] and regularly fill up at BP as I collect Nectar points.”
Participation doesn’t just come from the usual suspects
“Went to fill up with diesel at the local BP today and at 131.9 just could not bring myself to do it. That's 7p more than Tesco's in Warrington …”
No-one is being naïve – price is still a key factor
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Lessons learnt (2)
Individuals are not just economic actors responding to price signals from upstream policyAll carbon is personal
Make carbon personal: the individual must be involved in the response:
Individuals as members of organisations contributing to CRC targetsIndividuals contributing to LA targets like N186
Our level of thinking needs to move to individuals as members of communities and organisations:
Reward Individuals who help to achieve community goals – day’s leave, ££, etcStill the challenge of verification – self-assessment with random audits etc?
Incentives and WIIFM:
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www.carbonlimited.org.uk
Matt Prescott, CarbonLimited director
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Local climate and energy solutions popular
Many see the value in trading within communities of interest
Energy Services model could apply
Potential for fuel security improvements
Local and community cohesiveness and creativity
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Carbon credits could be saved …
by switching to these…
by not doing so much of this…
by doing more of this…
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Trading creates an incentive for participants
The lower your footprint, the more carbon credit you can sell, which could mean:
1 being paid for your efforts to cut emissions, or participation in a virtual policy experiment
2 gaining more voting rights to secure funds for projects you want to support
3 receiving annual leave, entry into prize competitions or other incentives
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A CarbonDAQ network might elect for carbon credit to be used to support local projects, such as this wind turbine in Swaffham.
Those with carbon credit to sell gain extra voting rights to support the project. The money comes either from a sponsor, or from those needing to buy credit to balance their account.
CSR possibilities
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Local climate and energy solutions popular
Many see the value in trading within communities of interest
Energy Services model could apply
Potential for fuel security improvements
Local and community cohesiveness and creativity
Matt Prescott, Director, CarbonLimited
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Taking the idea forward
Low carbon local authority
Profits from the trading scheme
Itemised carbon cost imposed on households that exceeded carbon
target
High carbon local authority
Costs to comply in trading scheme
Revenue recycled as council tax
discounts for households exceeding
carbon target
Community scale
Household scale
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Taking the idea forward
Low carbon local authority
Profits from the trading scheme
Local authority provide
information and support to
households to reduce costs of
compliance
High carbon local authority
Costs to comply in trading scheme
Revenue recycled as
community-scale benefits to local
sustainable energy
networks/ climate change
Community scale
Community scale
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Voluntary
Taking the idea forward
Opt-in
Opt-out
Mandatory
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Taking the idea forward
mandatory
Local authority participation
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Taking the idea forward
Local authority participation
Fuel poor
Inefficient homes
Voter decides
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Community carbon trading
www.carbonlimited.org
Dr Andy Johnston
Centre for Local Sustainability
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