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Balancing lung protection vs early mobilization (can you have your cake and eat it too?) Toronto 2106 Jesse Hall MD University of Chicago Section of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine

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Balancing lung protection vs

early mobilization (can you

have your cake and eat it too?)

Toronto 2106

Jesse Hall MD

University of Chicago

Section of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine

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Faculty Disclosures

Dr. Hall

• receives honoraria from the ACCP for their board review course and SEEK publications

• receives honoraria from McGraw-Hill and Taylor-Francis publishing

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A 39 year old woman with a history of well controlled asthma and hypertension came to the ED with a one day history of SOB, rigors, high fevers, and rust colored sputum. She received high flow nasal oxygen for low SpO2 and 2 liters of fluid for tachycardia and hypotension. A urinary antigen for pneumococcus was positive and abx were begun. Over two hours her work of breathing increases and her arterial saturations are 85-88%.

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Should intubation be

forestalled with NIV to

facilitate many things,

including

mobibilization?

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Brochard et al AJRCCM

Sept 2016

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Or…………….

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Available at www.jama.com

Patel BK and coauthors

Effect of Noninvasive Ventilation

Delivered by Helmet vs Face Mask on the

Rate of Endotracheal Intubation in

Patients With Acute Respiratory Distress

Syndrome: A Randomized Clinical Trial

Published online May 15, 2016

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The patient was intubated in the ED without a consideration of additional NIV. On AC RR 30, TV 320, FiO2 1 and PEEP 5 cm H2O, her ABG was 7.31/46/58. Her PEEP was increased to 16 cm H2O and the ABG revealed 7.30/48/122. Pplat was 28.

She is beginning to breath over the set ventilator rate.

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Proning?

NMB?

Salvage therapy protocol?

Fentanyl alone for sedation

Furosemide 60 mg q 4h

Mobilize from bed

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Extubated

9/25, this is

CXR 9/26,

d/c to home

9/28

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Onset and offset of critical care

interventions

Days or weeks

‘turning on a dime at the right time’

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37 year old male

cirrhosis,

aspiration with

ARDS

CXR 24 hours

after intubation

Assist Control

Tidal Volume 400

PEEP 12

FiO2=70

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If this patient had not tolerated diuresis

and had worsened and even required

ECMO, does that preclude mobilization?

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In summary, in weighing controlling ventilation

in ARDS to avoid VILI (or SILI) but not losing

the ability to mobilize and avoid ICU-AW

• Is there a window to avoid intubation and promote mobilization?—interesting, controversial area of competing goals

• While intubated—yes, but you need to not lock in unnecessary immobilization

• And with salvage therapies such as ECMO?-yes—but if patients in the recovery phase of ARDS remain on ECMO when can they take how deep a breath (see first bullet point)?