Balancing lung protection vs early mobilization (can you ... · Delivered by Helmet vs Face Mask on...
Transcript of Balancing lung protection vs early mobilization (can you ... · Delivered by Helmet vs Face Mask on...
Balancing lung protection vs
early mobilization (can you
have your cake and eat it too?)
Toronto 2106
Jesse Hall MD
University of Chicago
Section of Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine
Faculty Disclosures
Dr. Hall
• receives honoraria from the ACCP for their board review course and SEEK publications
• receives honoraria from McGraw-Hill and Taylor-Francis publishing
A 39 year old woman with a history of well controlled asthma and hypertension came to the ED with a one day history of SOB, rigors, high fevers, and rust colored sputum. She received high flow nasal oxygen for low SpO2 and 2 liters of fluid for tachycardia and hypotension. A urinary antigen for pneumococcus was positive and abx were begun. Over two hours her work of breathing increases and her arterial saturations are 85-88%.
9/22
9/22
Should intubation be
forestalled with NIV to
facilitate many things,
including
mobibilization?
Brochard et al AJRCCM
Sept 2016
Or…………….
Available at www.jama.com
Patel BK and coauthors
Effect of Noninvasive Ventilation
Delivered by Helmet vs Face Mask on the
Rate of Endotracheal Intubation in
Patients With Acute Respiratory Distress
Syndrome: A Randomized Clinical Trial
Published online May 15, 2016
9/22
The patient was intubated in the ED without a consideration of additional NIV. On AC RR 30, TV 320, FiO2 1 and PEEP 5 cm H2O, her ABG was 7.31/46/58. Her PEEP was increased to 16 cm H2O and the ABG revealed 7.30/48/122. Pplat was 28.
She is beginning to breath over the set ventilator rate.
Proning?
NMB?
Salvage therapy protocol?
Fentanyl alone for sedation
Furosemide 60 mg q 4h
Mobilize from bed
Extubated
9/25, this is
CXR 9/26,
d/c to home
9/28
Onset and offset of critical care
interventions
Days or weeks
‘turning on a dime at the right time’
0 7 14 21 280
20
40
60
80
50 100
Control
Intervention
Number at Risk
Control 55 51 21 13 9 4 0
Intervention 49 40 21 13 8 2 1
048.0P
Hospital Days
%
Fu
ncti
on
all
y I
nd
ep
en
den
t
Lancet, May 2009
37 year old male
cirrhosis,
aspiration with
ARDS
CXR 24 hours
after intubation
Assist Control
Tidal Volume 400
PEEP 12
FiO2=70
If this patient had not tolerated diuresis
and had worsened and even required
ECMO, does that preclude mobilization?
In summary, in weighing controlling ventilation
in ARDS to avoid VILI (or SILI) but not losing
the ability to mobilize and avoid ICU-AW
• Is there a window to avoid intubation and promote mobilization?—interesting, controversial area of competing goals
• While intubated—yes, but you need to not lock in unnecessary immobilization
• And with salvage therapies such as ECMO?-yes—but if patients in the recovery phase of ARDS remain on ECMO when can they take how deep a breath (see first bullet point)?