Balagi Ramanuja DasanWhat does it really means to be an Iyer? Is it all about being Vegetarian and communicating in a particular slang? Are Iyers using their born intellectual thinking to progress spiritually or just using it for materialistic purpose? What is the spiritual/philosophical path Iyers are following today? And how many of them practice it? And where does it lead to? Or are Iyers just wasting their rare birth by deviating and diluting into too many things rather than justifying their births? What happens to Iyers after their death, who does not follow any particular spiritual path? What is the difference between an Iyer and a non-brahmin who is also devotional and goes to 'any temple what so ever', and does not follow any prescribed path or philosophy? These questions are in specific for 'Iyers' and hope to learn from this thread, from Iyer-Iyengars of this group.Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · 13 hours ago

Adithya Hariram likes this. 50 of 261 View previous comments Balagi Ramanuja Dasan But according to Advaita, when everything is unreal, why do you need to have a deity worship (Dakshinamoorthy in this case)? And can verify again your point about Sanyasi? Your point speaks completely against the core Advaits principles! 6 hours ago · Like Brat Iyengar Radha N. Iyer, are you really having a conversation with these nut cases? when they do not respect your belief systems, imagine how much they respect anyone who have a different point of view....... Idhu yellam vethu vetu.....better off ignored 6 hours ago · Like · 2 Anand Rocky Iyer Balagi Ramanuja Dasan. I just woke up your consciousness or fuel your ego to pacify my arrogance.Now that I have done it,I will deviate from this thread.You can blabber what you want 6 hours ago · Like · 1 Balagi Ramanuja Dasan Anand Rocky Iyer I know thats what people do when they don't know the answers, thanks for your blabbering so far! 6 hours ago · Like Radha N. Iyer I know I was just begging them not to insult our faith. They can do that in the privacy of their homes, not here. 6 hours ago · Like Radha N. Iyer Just asking for common sense....adhu than illaiye, LOL 5 hours ago · Edited · Like Anand Rocky Iyer First show me the core 'Advait' principles with genuine links.Also ensure to show me where Sivan is called 'anniyan' blah blah .I am sure some 'Iyanpettai kaliyaperumal should be foulmouthing that too ' 6 hours ago · Like Balagi Ramanuja Dasan Whats 'common' for you may not be 'common' for others, so there is nothing called as 'common sense' when it comes to spiritual matters! 6 hours ago · Like Radha N. Iyer This is the first time I am coming face to face with it. I have yet to learn to ignore. I can not believe there are such people among Hindus !!!!!!!!! 6 hours ago · Like Brat Iyengar Some people are peverse. They take immense pleasure on hurting other belief systems..... dumasses I say. This attitude will never give them moksa, and they will be cursed to be born again and again... 6 hours ago · Like · 1

Balagi Ramanuja Dasan Anand Rocky Iyer Its high time you set your basics right, by understanding the hierarchy 6 hours ago · Like Anand Rocky Iyer Balagi Ramanuja Dasan: I have quite some 'Dvaitin' friends who know what tolerance is.If one has a prejudiced view,nothing can be done about it.I like to see people wallow in their 'anxiety and fuel their superiority by false claims.When someone stops 'self-inquiry' and insists on 'dick measuring',I give up. 6 hours ago · Like Balagi Ramanuja Dasan I am not degrading anyone or anyone's believes here! But at the same time, you can't argue based on own's desire or imagination! 6 hours ago · Like Anand Rocky Iyer Dont forget that Lord Sri Rama had to bow before the 'supreme' Shiva before waging a war with Ravana.Haha,that proves that Shiva is supreme to Vishnu 6 hours ago · Like Anand Rocky Iyer When in doubt,I just shut mouth's with this video.Velukkudi Krishnan is a gem....He explains the glory of Krishna and all 'philosophies' so neatly.........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjnFkBdGOpk Velukkudi Krishna Swami-Sadhana Sapthaham-Vidhura Neethi www.youtube.com Bhagavatham and Maha Bharatham are the knowledge Treasure for our Kaliyuga life....See more 6 hours ago · Like Balagi Ramanuja Dasan The whole incident of Rama worshiping at Rameswaram itself is a falsified story. There is no evidence in Valmiki Ramaya for that and that has been proved very many times in this same forum. Just show a single sloka or quote from valmiki ramayana to prove that Rama was in Rameswaram installing Shiva lingam! You cant do that. Its a made made incident/story added in the recent years! 6 hours ago · Like Anand Rocky Iyer Just like Shiva is an anniyan god.Anyone can make stories in that fashion.How do I believe that 'x y z ' is supreme,just because someone said so??? 6 hours ago · Like · 1 Radha N. Iyer I am listening to the video....its awesome....Thanks Anand Rocky Iyer. 6 hours ago · Like · 1 Anand Rocky Iyer Radha N. Iyer.That is a gem of a video.he just rips apart praising 'krishna'.With men like these,people wont feel deviated. 6 hours ago · Like · 1 Radha N. Iyer After all the arguments...this is so soothing and healing. 6 hours ago · Like Radha N. Iyer OMG, Unbelievable..... even a radical Muslim may not call my God "Anniyan" to my face...How can a "Hindu" do that ? I am shocked beyond belief. What can I say ? So much hate ?? 5 hours ago · Edited · Like · 1 Ganesh Ram He is awesome in describing things Radha N. Iyer isn't he that vellukudi?

Radika Kesavan thanks. romba vekkama irukku. nA oru shy type appadeenu theriyAdhA?

Hema Suresh enna pathi theriyAdhA? AnAlum sweet sonnathukku your are very welcome.

Balagi Ramanuja Dasan, I liked your post. I think you are on the dot to ask these questions. But when you did I think you forgot to add space in between each question. That formatting was some eyesore for many.

But your questions are valid. And Vk Vasudevan gave an apt answer of who an iyer is. The rest of what he says are because of his affinity to what he believes in. Just like how radha N iyer has affinity to what she believes in. They both talk about the same but their viewpoints are different.

I come from a different angle. I start by saying God is Man's creation. If something has a name in a language and specific attributes then it is a creation of man.

Is there something that does not have specific attributes? Yes there is. But we can discuss that later.

There is no such thing as rare birth. Or to put it in other words every birth is a rare birth. To put it biologicall, there are over a million sperms swimming around yet only a few reach the egg and only one ( most of the time) penetrates the egg. This is true with all living things. Therefore all living things are rare. Not just humans, not just animals. But all living things. And I say , so are the non living things, the inanimates.

If creations is rare so is the destruction. Because unless something is created it cannot be destroyed.

I go with what radika stated about what will happen after the death. I extend it by saying, I am not that . That is not I . Death is the time after which there is no desire or need for the dead person. All living things have a desire and need.

I was totally against going to temple. Not any more. That transition in my view came from the way temples gave food to those workers in Singapore. I think they do it in many temples in India as well. That is the only reason temples should be built . If we are going to feed people let us build lot more temples.

If temple is for praying, if you have not seen and felt god within you, you cannot see it in temple. here is a song that says this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aJ5cuerkpg

Since I have a name with ganesh at the start and ram at the end . I perhaps should have been a iyer. I think I am a brahmin but I have a question. I will put that in my enakku oru sandhegam series Deivam Irupathu - Saraswati Sabatham www.youtube.com

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5 hours ago · Like Vee CeeOne > If we are going to feed people let us build lot more temples.

I will drink to that 4 hours ago · Like · 1 Natarajan Srinivasan ooov. this thread is still on 4 hours ago · Like Natarajan Srinivasan ha ha,Vk Vasudevan. The Supreme God is formless, Nirguna Brahman. It takes many forms. in its first change, it takes a fice facetted form performing creation, Protection, destruction, Absorption and Anugraha,.These five Divine Gods create further Gods, Devathas to take care of countless universes. These are equal and not equal in two senses. Not equal in the sense , they are all created by the Supreme Divinity. Equal in the sense , they carry the life essence of God. A true

Enlightened Soul, including iyer or Iyengar or any Soul will never fight for the lesser truths below the nirvisesha nirguna brahmam and call for their equality. Even if they call for Equality, it will be in the sense that everything is a manifestation of God. On the Flip Side, only a less Evolved Iyengar or any Human will think that MahaVishnu is the Only Supreme God and even desist from going to other Temples. That is height of Stupidity and Maya MahaVishnu is the Protection Face of The Supreme Divinity, Kindness and Benevolence Personified. He has four More Faces and Traits. Together, these five Coalesces into the Supreme Divinity. A True Hindu Knows and Realizes that. 4 hours ago · Like Veeraswami Venkataraman Hey what is this ? Whole night discussing Sivasailem and Vishnu? 4 hours ago via mobile · Like Natarajan Srinivasan you have to wait for some more births, ramanujha dasan. now only, U R an Iyengar. after some births, U will evolve spirually and will be born as Iyer. 3 hours ago · Like · 3 Veeraswami Venkataraman NS why we segragate among iyer and iyengar? We both like both ii 3 hours ago via mobile · Like Natarajan Srinivasan oh, VV. I am talking about iyengars like Ramanujha Balagi Ramanuja Dasan 3 hours ago · Like Hema Suresh Someone please stop this thread...... 3 hours ago via mobile · Like Veeraswami Venkataraman Ns they are great men with lot of knowledge. I feel iyers and iyers are complementary to each other. Now most of the families have iyer or iyengar in laws . 3 hours ago via mobile · Like Natarajan Srinivasan Balagi Ramanuja Dasan says----Complete surrender can happen to only one and when someone surrender's to many, then the very word 'complete' loses its meaning. Its like a lady surrendering to many men, when her husband is there to protect her.

According to him ----Worshipping many gods is like having one husband and having many more partners. Never heard such a thing !! He also uses the word "Anniyan Devta" for Shiva. 3 hours ago · Like · 1 Lakshmi Shivkumar Its useless to argue with these nut cases who have absolutely no respect for other's beleifs and religious sentiments, these inconsiderate people are better left ignored Radha N. Iyer....why pay importance to what they are saying 3 hours ago · Like · 1 Natarajan Srinivasan man- You are beyond repair. don't you surrender to the love of your father and mother and brothers and sisters and your wife. does that mean your wife sleeps with your Brother? And with your father? Worshiping different Gods is not like a Woman sleeping with Many Men. it is knowing which Doctor will cure your particular Ailment. If you think Lord Shiva is Aniyan, I think You are an Aniyan to the Hindu Religion itself. I suggest you and your similar minded Iyengars and Ramanujha Dasans start your own religion 3 hours ago · Like · 2 Radha N. Iyer Yes Lakshmi Shivkumar, I will take your advice and ignore these people. 3 hours ago · Like Venkat S Iyer This guy does not exist. Some person is playing mischief. 3 hours ago · Unlike · 2 Chitra Shankar Some one who does not have the guts to reveal his original id 3 hours ago via mobile · Like Venkat S Iyer Chitra: We must all ignore his/it's posting.

3 hours ago · Like · 1 Radha N. Iyer Atleast now we are united and people will think twice before starting such nonsense. 3 hours ago · Like Radha N. Iyer Here is a beautiful video explaining the glory of Krishna. It's a gem.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjnFkBdGOpk. Velukkudi Krishna Swami-Sadhana Sapthaham-Vidhura Neethi www.youtube.com Bhagavatham and Maha Bharatham are the knowledge Treasure for our Kaliyuga life. Kindly listen to Great Acharyals Pravachans and attain Peace by following th... 2 hours ago · Edited · Like Radha N. Iyer I found this very soothing after the confrontation. 2 hours ago · Like · 1 Venkat S Iyer Velukudi is a so clear and simple to understand.Awesome! Thanks Radha. Listening.. 2 hours ago · Like · 1 Chitra Shankar Balagi u seriously need to examine ur head for uttering nonsense,and calling Shiva anniyan and the other cheap remarks abt worshipping various gods what a dirty mind. 2 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1 Venkat S Iyer Radha: I have saved this well explained discourse. Thanks once again. 2 hours ago · Like · 1 Meena Narasimhan schlecht. Mr. fanatic 2 hours ago · Like · 1

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அைத அறியொதவர வொயிேல மணண 2 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1 Ganesh Ram sir you are talking about krishna here Veeraswami Venkataraman 18 minutes ago · Like Ganesh Ram so is it really wrong to ask who an iyer is? Actually who is an iyer? we can clearly define iyengAr. But who is an iyer? 18 minutes ago · Like Ravikumar Parthasarathy ok ok...please promoe bangalore INN f2f ...need more confirmations 15 minutes ago · Like · 1 Veeraswami Venkataraman Ganesh ram I am not an expert in these things and I don't want to go deep into it creating misunderstanding in this friendly group. 12 minutes ago via mobile · Like · 1