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CNG Fueling – Getting into the Game 10/8/2014 Page 1 CNG Fueling: Getting into the Game Getting into the Game Who are We? Principal of Marcel Moreau Associates BA Geology MS Oceanography 31 years in petroleum storage systems Marcel Moreau 31 years in petroleum storage systems CNG for 2 years – Consultant for RP1500 Who are We? VP Commercial Sales BS in Business 33 years in petroleum Steve Bernstein Some CNG in mid90s CNG for last 4 years Who are We? CNG Engineer BS Electrical Engineering MS Business Administration CNG full time for 6 yrs Eric Beavers CNG full time for 6 yrs Who Are We? President & Founder of TGT Electronics degree Helped write ANSI/NGV codes for fueling equipment Gas station electrical contractor 30 rs Tom Sewell Gas station electrical contractor 30 yrs CNG for 25 years Target audiences: PEI distributors A Few Words About RP 1500… Design, Installation, Operation and Maintenance of Compressed Natural Gas V hi l F li F iliti PEI RP 1500 PEI distributors Owner operators Regulators Vehicle-Fueling Facilities

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CNG Fueling:

Getting into the GameGetting into the Game

Who are We?• Principal of Marcel Moreau Associates• BA Geology• MS Oceanography• 31 years in petroleum storage systems

Marcel Moreau

• 31 years in petroleum storage systems• CNG for 2 years – Consultant for RP1500

Who are We?

• VP Commercial Sales• BS in Business• 33 years in petroleum Steve Bernstein

• Some CNG in mid‐90s• CNG for last 4 years

Who are We?• CNG Engineer• BS Electrical Engineering• MS Business Administration• CNG full time for 6 yrs

Eric Beavers

CNG full time for 6 yrs

Who Are We?• President & Founder of TGT• Electronics degree • Helped write ANSI/NGV codes for fueling equipment

• Gas station electrical contractor 30 rs

Tom Sewell

• Gas station electrical contractor 30 yrs• CNG for 25 years

Target audiences:

• PEI distributors

A Few Words About RP 1500…

Design, Installation, Operation and Maintenance of

Compressed Natural Gas V hi l F li F iliti

PEI RP 1500

PEI distributors

• Owner operators

• Regulators

Vehicle-Fueling Facilities

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•Unlike other PEI RPs, written for the novice

A Few Words About RP 1500…

•Assumes no prior knowledge of CNG

Level of Effort:• 14 members of Committee + 3 

PEI staff + 1 Consultant

A Few Words About RP 1500…

• 12.5 days of Committee meetings

• 111 pages

• 88 Drawings/Photos

A Small Sample of Contents…

• 108 definitions• From anodeless riser through molecular sieve to X‐purge

Chapter 2:  Definitions

molecular sieve to X purge

• GGE, DGE• How fuel flows in CNG 

Chapter 4:  How a Vehicle is Filled with CNG

fueling system• Time‐fill, buffer fill, fast fill

• What is a “full fill”

• From the meter set assembly to the nozzle

Chapter 5: Components of a CNG Fuel System

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• Pressure, temperature, methane, vibration sensors

Chapter 6:  PLCs, Sensors, Flow Control & Flow Measurement

• Remote & manual valves• Pressure control• Coriolis meters

• Pipe, tube, hose

W ldi fl

Chapter 12:Connecting the Components

• Welding, flanges, nut and ferrule, O‐ring face seal, SAE, NPT

• Predictive, preventive, reactive maintenance

• Daily walk through

Chapter 15:  Operation

• Weekly tasks• Monthly inspection

You will be able to intelligently talk about CNG with:• Engineers 

If You Study RP 1500…

g• Equipment manufacturers

• Regulators • Owners

You will NOT instantly become a competent CNG installation and service contractor

Even If You Study RP 1500…

contractor• Early in 2015

So When Can I Buy It?

• Will be available in both hard copy and electronic pdf

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SHOULD YOU EMBRACE

The Question…

SHOULD YOU EMBRACE CNG TECHNOLOGY?

About Jones & Frank

• Our market is the Atlantic Seaboard and Mid‐West

• We provide distribution, service and also installation in select markets

Our History with CNG

• First involvement was early 1990’s

• CNG was not successful in gainingCNG was not successful in gaining  traction in the market

• We exited – CNG work was no longer a significant part of operations

Today

• About 4 years ago, we re‐entered the market 

• Have built dozens of  systems of various sizes, from small appliance & time‐fill systems …

Today

…to large fast fill systems

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Why Today?

• Cost of fuel is a big “driver” in the transportation sector

• CNG has a big cost advantage over liquid fuels

The Market Today

• Potential CNG owners need education:

to understand what they are getting into

to manage their expectations to avoid dissatisfaction

The Market Today

Our value proposition in today’s market basket of goods is as amarket basket of goods is as a turnkey provider offering ongoing service

The Market Today

• CNG is currently a small market

• Sales channels are notSales channels are not traditional PEI channels

• Competitors are not traditional competitors

The Market Today

• Margins are thin but we see potential for improvement p pover time

• CNG revenue at present is very small relative to liquid fuels

The Market Today

CNG is NOT easy money!

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The Market Today

Our current success in winning j t d tprojects due to:

dedicating resources

The Market Today

Our current success in winning j t d tprojects due to:

identifying opportunities

The Market Today

Our current success in winning j t d tprojects due to:

providing solutions to CNG buyers

The Market Today

This has required aThis has required a significant investment in people

SO, SHOULD YOU EMBRACE 

The Question

,CNG TECHNOLOGY?

If you’re thinking YES, then…

Advice to Get in CNG Market

Buy PEI RP 1500 and study it!

studying RP 1500 Will allow you to talk intelligently with CNG engineers, manufacturers, code officials and owners

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Advice to Get in CNG Market

CNG is a BIG investment!

Advice to Get in CNG Market

T d it t iTop‐down commitment is required

Advice to Get in CNG Market

• Identify skill sets required…y q

• …and people who can learn them 

Advice to Get in CNG Market

• Workers must embrace new technology…

• …and there’s lots of new technology to learn!

Advice to Get in CNG Market

NEEDED !!

ALL‐IN‐ONE:

Mechanical‐Electrical‐Electronics Technicians

Advice to Get in CNG Market

• Expect significantExpect significant training/education costs

• Be prepared to invest in specialty tools & equipment

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Advice to Get in CNG Market

• Training Resources:

Trade Organizations 

E i t M f t Equipment Manufacturers 

Peer Mentoring

Job Shadowing

• It’s a Continuous Process

Advice to Get in CNG Market

• Get over the “Sticker Shock“

Our training investment in Our training investment in past 2 years is close to six figures…

…And still going up

Advice to Get in CNG Market

• Expect a slower ROI than liquid fuel 

• CNG station development likely to be slow

• Geographically dispersed customer base dilutes ROI

SO, IF YOU DECIDE TO

The Question

EMBRACE CNG TECHNOLOGY…..

The Answer

…BE PREPARED TO GO “ALL IN”!

THANK YOU!

Steve BernsteinSteve BernsteinJones & Frank

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BackgroundBackground

Family owned and operated for 3 generations

Established in 1963 51 years in petroleum

26 years in CNG

Offering high quality installation and service in the North East

Service AreaService Area

Main office in Horseheads, NY

1988 - Binghamton and Horseheadslocations

Our Intro to CNGOur Intro to CNG

Blanket contractor for NYS Electric & Gas

Our Intro to CNGOur Intro to CNG

Led to 35+ small to medium stations for NYS DOT

Our Intro to CNGOur Intro to CNG

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80+ major builds to date

Our Intro to CNGOur Intro to CNG Initially Hired on Initially Hired on Basis of: Basis of:

Plumbing, mechanical and l t i l ielectrical experience

Understanding of underground

Initially Hired on Initially Hired on Basis of: Basis of:

underground conduit and piping installation

Willingness to work with utilities and

Initially Hired on Initially Hired on Basis of: Basis of:

learn codes from them

Current Fuel System Current Fuel System OfferingsOfferings Sizing

Design/ Layout

Full in house Full in-house construction

Maintenance contracts

Call out service

OutlookOutlook

Ratio of liquid fuel to CNG work:

CNG15%

Petroleum85%

PAST

CNG was 15-20%

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OutlookOutlook

Ratio of liquid fuel to CNG work:

CNG15%

Petroleum85%

PAST

CNG was 15-20%

Over last 5 years CNG has increased to 90%

Petroleum10%

CNG90%

PRESENT

Getting StartedGetting Started

Learn what it is you are Learn what it is you are getting intogetting into

Getting StartedGetting Started Learn what it is you are

getting into

Learn codes & work Learn codes & work with code officialswith code officials

Getting StartedGetting Started Learn what it is you are getting

into

Learn codes & work with code officials

Get trainingGet trainingGet trainingGet training

Getting StartedGetting Started Learn what it is you are getting

into

Learn codes & work with code officials

Get training

Start small Start small -- Don’t get Don’t get in over your head!in over your head!

Getting StartedGetting Started Learn what it is you are getting into

Learn codes & work with code officials

Get training

St t ll D ’t t i Start small - Don’t get in over your head!

Find loyal customer who will Find loyal customer who will ride out the bumpy road while ride out the bumpy road while you learn togetheryou learn together

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Build on Your ExperienceBuild on Your Experience

Petroleum contracting

Electrical

Mechanical

Build on Build on Your Your EExperiencexperience

Petroleum Petroleum contracting contracting

Build on Build on Your Your ExperienceExperience

Petroleum Petroleum contracting contracting

Si l / T ffi Si l / T ffi Site layout/ Traffic Site layout/ Traffic flowflow

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

Petroleum Petroleum contracting contracting

Si l / T ffi Site layout/ Traffic flow

Pouring concretePouring concrete

Build on Build on Your Your ExperienceExperience

Petroleum Petroleum contracting contracting

Si l / T ffi Site layout/ Traffic flow

Pouring concrete TrenchingTrenching

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

ElectricalElectrical

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Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

ElectricalElectrical Running conduitRunning conduit

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

ElectricalElectrical Running conduit Planning wiring Planning wiring

layoutslayouts

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

ElectricalElectrical Running conduit Planning wiring

layouts Safety around live Safety around live

circuitscircuits

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

MechanicalMechanical

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

MechanicalMechanical PlumbingPlumbing

Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperience

MechanicalMechanical Plumbing WeldingWelding

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Build on Your Build on Your ExperienceExperienceMechanicalMechanical Plumbing Welding Bending tubeBending tube

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Bid and spec work

Experienced customerp

Develop customer and project

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Bid and spec workBid and spec work

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Bid and spec workBid and spec work Same engineersSame engineers

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Bid and spec workBid and spec work Same engineers Team upTeam upTeam upTeam up

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Experienced customerExperienced customer

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Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Experienced customerExperienced customer Multiple stationsMultiple stations

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Experienced customerExperienced customer Multiple stations Already have a Already have a eady ave a eady ave a

consultantconsultant

Gaining ProjectsGaining Projects

Experienced customerExperienced customer Multiple stations Already have a eady ave a

consultant Learn Learn from their from their

experienceexperience

Gaining ProjectsGaining ProjectsDevelop customer and Develop customer and

projectproject

Gaining ProjectsGaining ProjectsDevelop customer and Develop customer and

projectproject Most difficultMost difficult

Gaining ProjectsGaining ProjectsDevelop customer and Develop customer and

projectproject Most difficult Cover all aspects of Cover all aspects of

transitiontransition

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Gaining ProjectsGaining ProjectsDevelop customer and Develop customer and

projectproject Most difficult Cover all aspects of

transition Play to your strengthsPlay to your strengths

Gaining ExperienceGaining Experience

Team with experience Team with experience and learn from them and learn from them

Gaining ExperienceGaining Experience

Team with experience and learn from them

Build a relationship with Build a relationship with Build a relationship with Build a relationship with manufacturersmanufacturers

Gaining ExperienceGaining Experience

Team with experience and learn from them

Build a relationship with Build a relationship with manufacturers

Stay currentStay current

Gaining ExperienceGaining Experience

Team with experience and learn from them

Build a relationship with Build a relationship with manufacturers

Stay current

We learn something from We learn something from every projectevery project

Prepared By: Eric Beavers

Visit: BeaversPetroleum.com

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Tulsa Gas Technologies, Inc.Tulsa Gas Technologies, Inc.(TGT)(TGT)

TULSA, OKLAHOMA USATULSA, OKLAHOMA USA

TGT BackgroundTGT Background

•• Involved in CNG fueling since 1989Involved in CNG fueling since 1989

•• 500 facilities in US; 200 international500 facilities in US; 200 international

TGT BackgroundTGT Background

•• Manufacturer of Manufacturer of CNG dispensers CNG dispensers (400 per year)(400 per year)

•• Station integrator Station integrator ––helps select CNG helps select CNG equipment, perform equipment, perform CNG specific tasksCNG specific tasks

TGT BackgroundTGT Background

•• Owner of three retail Owner of three retail stationsstations

•• 20 rental 20 rental compressorscompressors

•• Total throughput of Total throughput of 1 million 1 million gallons/year gallons/year

TGT Works Closely TGT Works Closely with a General with a General Contractor (GC) to Contractor (GC) to Build CNG Facilities Build CNG Facilities

TGT Role in CNG Facility ConstructionTGT Role in CNG Facility Construction

Set and anchor heavy Set and anchor heavy equipment:equipment:•• compressorscompressors

t lt l•• storage vesselsstorage vessels•• dryersdryers

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TGT Role in CNG Facility ConstructionTGT Role in CNG Facility Construction

•• Secure materialsSecure materials

•• Install CNG tubingInstall CNG tubing

•• Test for integrityTest for integrityTest for integrityTest for integrity

•• Test for tightnessTest for tightness

TGT Role in CNG Facility ConstructionTGT Role in CNG Facility Construction

Provide and install communication software Provide and install communication software (CNG compressor, POS system, remote (CNG compressor, POS system, remote monitoring (SCADA))monitoring (SCADA))

TGT Role in CNG Facility ConstructionTGT Role in CNG Facility Construction

Make or supervise all final connections (natural Make or supervise all final connections (natural gas, electrical, mechanical)gas, electrical, mechanical)

TGT Role in CNG Facility ConstructionTGT Role in CNG Facility Construction

When requested, train GC employees in When requested, train GC employees in CNGCNG--specific tasksspecific tasks

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Pull permitsPull permits

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Site preparationSite preparation

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GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

TrenchingTrenching

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Foundations and concrete workFoundations and concrete work

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Buildings & canopiesBuildings & canopies

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Provide electrical and plumbing Provide electrical and plumbing contractorcontractor

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Onsite supervision and coordination of Onsite supervision and coordination of construction activitiesconstruction activities

GC Role in CNG Facility ConstructionGC Role in CNG Facility Construction

Integrate CNG with existing liquid Integrate CNG with existing liquid fuel equipmentfuel equipment

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How TGT Selects GCHow TGT Selects GC

Willingness to learn how to put Willingness to learn how to put CNG together CNG together

How TGT Selects GCHow TGT Selects GC

Familiarity with liquid fueling stations (piping, Familiarity with liquid fueling stations (piping, dispensers, canopies, driveways, etc.)dispensers, canopies, driveways, etc.)

How TGT Selects GCHow TGT Selects GC

Familiarity with control systems (card readers, POS Familiarity with control systems (card readers, POS systems, backroom control boxes) systems, backroom control boxes)

How TGT Selects GCHow TGT Selects GC

Familiarity with Familiarity with applicable codes applicable codes (NFPA 30A, NFPA (NFPA 30A, NFPA 52)52)

PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Have relevant experience building fueling Have relevant experience building fueling facilitiesfacilities

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PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Have relationship with fire marshal (crucial!)Have relationship with fire marshal (crucial!)

PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Are familiar with fire codesAre familiar with fire codes

PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Have qualified service personnel who already Have qualified service personnel who already maintain liquidmaintain liquid--fueling facilitiesfueling facilities

PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Have extensive experience with liquid vehicleHave extensive experience with liquid vehicle--fueling technologiesfueling technologies

PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Are comfortable working with hazardous materialsAre comfortable working with hazardous materials

PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs PEI Distributors Are Attractive GCs

Have relationships with other customers who may Have relationships with other customers who may have an interest in CNG fuelinghave an interest in CNG fueling

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PEI Distributors Must LearnPEI Distributors Must Learn

How to work with high How to work with high pressure tubingpressure tubing

PEI Distributors Must LearnPEI Distributors Must Learn

•• How to set heavy equipment How to set heavy equipment

45,000 pounds

PEI Distributors Must LearnPEI Distributors Must Learn

•• NFPA 52 inside and out NFPA 52 inside and out ((also IFC in some locationsalso IFC in some locations))

PEI Distributors Must LearnPEI Distributors Must Learn

•• How to work with natural gas How to work with natural gas utilities utilities

PEI Distributors Must LearnPEI Distributors Must Learn

How to work with electrical utilitiesHow to work with electrical utilities

PEI Distributors Must LearnPEI Distributors Must Learn

The basics of CNG The basics of CNG fueling equipment (RP fueling equipment (RP 1500 is a great start)1500 is a great start)

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PEI Distributors Must AlsoPEI Distributors Must Also

Build relationships with CNG Build relationships with CNG equipment companiesequipment companies

PEI Distributors Must AlsoPEI Distributors Must Also

Tell their insurance Tell their insurance companies what they’re companies what they’re doingdoingdoingdoing

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

It’s not just construction…It’s not just construction…

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

•• Service for 20 to 30 years Service for 20 to 30 years (weekly or monthly (weekly or monthly

The real money is in serviceThe real money is in service

service calls)service calls)

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

•• Compressor oil is $11Compressor oil is $11--18 a 18 a quartquart

The real money is in serviceThe real money is in service

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

•• Dryers need regeneration Dryers need regeneration annuallyannually

The real money is in serviceThe real money is in service

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Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

•• PressurePressure--relief valves must be relief valves must be recertified every 3 yearsrecertified every 3 years

The real money is in serviceThe real money is in service

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

•• Filter replacement yearlyFilter replacement yearly

The real money is in serviceThe real money is in service

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

•• Compressors need ongoing monitoring Compressors need ongoing monitoring and maintenanceand maintenance

The real money is in serviceThe real money is in service

Where the $$$$$ is in CNGWhere the $$$$$ is in CNG

Service calls require LOTS of equipment specific Service calls require LOTS of equipment specific mechanical, electrical and electronic trainingmechanical, electrical and electronic training

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