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Transpulmonary pressure… mislead by esophageal pressure ? Marcelo B. P. Amato University of São Paulo, Brazil Critical Care Canadian Forum CCCF, Toronto, November 2013

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Transpulmonary pressure…

mislead by esophageal pressure ?

Marcelo B. P. Amato

University of São Paulo, Brazil

Critical Care Canadian Forum

CCCF, Toronto, November 2013

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I disclose the following financial relationships with commercial entities that produce healthcare-related products or services relevant to the content I am presenting:

Company Relationship Content Area

Covidien Consultant Mechanical Ventilation

Philips / Dixtal Research grants E.I.T.

Conflict of Interest Disclosure

Marcelo B.P. Amato

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-20

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• low PSV • strong effort

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Pressure sensor: 1.2cm disk

Diaphragm (inner surface: the view from inside the thorax)

The dependent lung

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Original Article

Mechanical Ventilation Guided by Esophageal Pressure in Acute Lung Injury

Daniel Talmor, M.D., M.P.H., Todd Sarge, M.D., Atul Malhotra, M.D., Carl R. O'Donnell, Sc.D., M.P.H., Ray Ritz, R.R.T., Alan Lisbon, M.D., Victor Novack, M.D., Ph.D., and

Stephen H. Loring, M.D.

N Engl J MedVolume 359(20):2095-2104

November 13, 2008

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Chiu

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l.

S. Loring et al.

15 !

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Getting more information

Introducing noise

X

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sensor

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sensor sensor

C balloon = ?

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sensor sensor

C balloon = ?

sensor

C balloon = ?

C esophagus = ?

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Pes catheter

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55.6 %

Patient # 9

Pneumocystis

carinii pneumonia

FIO2 = 100 %; VT = 4 mL/kg; PEEP = 5 cmH2O

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FIO2 = 100 %; VT = 4 mL/kg; PEEP = 25 cmH2O

( after recruitment maneuver )

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0.9 %

Patient # 9

Pneumocystis

carinii pneumonia

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PplPpl

NON-DEPENDENT

PplPpl

MIDDLE

Ppl

DEPENDENT

Ppl

LOCAL TRANSPULMONARY PRESSURE MEASUREMENT

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CHEST-WALL P-V CURVES(super-syringe)

PLEURAL PRESSURES (cmH2O)

0 4 8 12 16 20

VO

LU

ME

(ple

thysm

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ph

- m

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900

1200

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1800

Normal

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CHEST-WALL P-V CURVES(super-syringe)

PLEURAL PRESSURES (cmH2O)

0 4 8 12 16 20

VO

LU

ME

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thysm

ogra

ph

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L)

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Injury

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CHEST-WALL P-V CURVES(super-syringe)

PLEURAL PRESSURES (cmH2O)

0 4 8 12 16 20

VO

LU

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thysm

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ph

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L)

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Pes

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CHEST-WALL P-V CURVES(super-syringe)

PLEURAL PRESSURES (cmH2O)

0 4 8 12 16 20

VO

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Slope: 0.91

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30

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-10

Airway pressure

(cmH2O)

Pleural pressure

(cmH2O)

Occlusion test Tube clamp

at the end of expiration

∆ Airway pressure

(cmH2O)

∆ Pleural pressure

(cmH2O)

BA

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Pes as a surrogate for Ppl

Baydur A. Am Rev Respir Dis 1982;126:788

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∆Ppl: -10cmH2O

-10-10-10

-10

-10

-10

-10

-10-10

-10

Diaphragmatic contraction

diaphragmatic contraction uniformly lowers Ppl

at all points on the lung surface

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Apical:

3th ICS

Basal:

8-9th ICS

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55.6 %

Patient # 9

Pneumocystis

carinii pneumonia

FIO2 = 100 %; VT = 4 mL/kg; PEEP = 5 cmH2O

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sensor sensor

C balloon = ?

sensor

C balloon = ?

C esophagus = ?

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Protti & Gattinoni - 2011 - AJRCCM - Lung stress and

strain during mechanical ventilation - any safe limit ?

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Talmor et al.- 2008 - NEJM

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S. Loring.- 2011 - JAP

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Balloon volume (mL of room air )

Esophageal p

ressure

(end-e

xpiratio

n)

Signal

Noise

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Balloon volume (mL of room air )

∆ E

sophageal p

ressure

60%

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PEEP (cmH2O)

Com

pla

ince

Chest-

Wall

60%

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Getting more information

Introducing noise

X

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P or PTP ?

( PAW - Pesoph )

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c

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Lung

Str

ain

0.5

1.0

1.5

2.0

2.5

3.0S

trai

n

No-VILI VILI

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Pla

teau

pre

ssure

10

20

30

40

50D

rivi

ngpr

ess

ure

No-VILI VILI

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Injury!!∆

PA

W-∆

PE

soph

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Injury!!∆

PA

W

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Note that,

↑ Offset in Pleural press.

↓ Chest-wallCompliance≠

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35 cmH O2

P = p l

15

Transpulmonary:

20 cmH O2

P = p l

-5

35 cmH O2

Transpulmonary:

40 cmH O2

P

PL

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P

35 cmH O2

P = p l

15

Transpulmonary:

20 cmH O2

P = p l

-5

35 cmH O2

Transpulmonary:

40 cmH O2

??

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…Chest-Wall compliance during anesthesia

was comparable to that measured in

non-obese, healthy subjects…

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…This may be surprising, bearing in mind

the voluminous fat layers over chest

and abdomen…

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…Thus, a weight placed on the rib-cage

does not affect chest-wall compliance,

but simply displaces the pressure-volume

relationship towards higher pressures…

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EPVENT

+ 4.3 cmH2O above average ( P < 0.001)

Alveoli ARDSnet Express LOVS

Pla

teau

pre

ssu

re

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EPVENT

Alveoli ARDSnet Express LOVS

Dri

vin

gp

ress

ure

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DR

IVIN

G-P

RE

SS

UR

E

(cm

H2O

)

Body-Mass Index

High PEEP studies; N = 2259 pts.

R2 = 0.00

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Thank you!

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55.6 %

Patient # 9

Pneumocystis

carinii pneumonia

FIO2 = 100 %; VT = 4 mL/kg; PEEP = 5 cmH2O

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FIO2 = 100 %; VT = 4 mL/kg; PEEP = 25 cmH2O

( after recruitment maneuver )

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0.9 %

Patient # 9

Pneumocystis

carinii pneumonia

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sensor sensor

C balloon = ?

sensor

C balloon = ?

C esophagus = ?