COMMITTEE ON REFINERY EQUIPMENTJOINT MEETING

CRE Subcommittee on Electrical EquipmentManufacturers & Contractors Subcommittee on Electrical Equipment

Louis Barrios, ChairmanCincinnati Hilton Netherland Plaza Hotel - Salon DE

Cincinnati, OHSaturday, September 20, 2008 (8:00 am – 12:00 noon)

AGENDA

Lon Ballard Cooper Crouse-Hinds VoterLouis Barrios Shell Global Solutions VoterDennis Bogh GE Non-VoterRick Bried Shell Pipeline – Retired Non-VoterMark Chisholm GE VoterKurt Concienne Chevron Non-VoterRami Dabbousi Saudi Aramco Non-VoterGary Donner Operations Technology VoterJohn Dulas ABB Automation, Inc. VoterLin Duquette Alliance Pipeline VoterDan Eaton Marathon Petroleum VoterMark Goodman Jacobs Engineering VoterTravis Griffith GE Oil & Gas VoterPaul Hamer Chevron VoterEugene Hamilton Chevron Non-VoterRoyce King Conoco Phillips VoterNorb Klekowski BP VoterToby Johnston WEG VoterBill Lockley Lockley Engineering VoterVictor Minak Exxon Mobil VoterRick Mendler Conoco Phillips Non-VoterArt Neubauer Arseal Technolgies VoterLorraine Padden Padden Engineering VoterDavid Rains Areva VoterMark Saldana BP Non-VoterBarry Wood Chevron Non-VoterCraig Wylie Electric Machinery Voter

I. Introductions and Attendance RegistrationChair Louis Barrios opened the meeting at 8:00 am.

A. Review membership roster 1. Toby Johnson is now representing WEG as SOEE voting member. 2. David Rains is now representing Areva as SOEE voting memebr.

B. Minutes from the Spring Refining Meeting in New Orleans

C. Mark Goodman moved for approval of minutes as amended, Royce King

seconded. Approved unanimously.

II. Old BusinessA. Technical Inquiries

1. None

III. Liaison ReportsA. NFPA 70 - Code Panel 14, Article 500 (Mark Goodman/Paul Hamer)

1. No significant issues for Panel 14.B. NFPA 70 - Code Panel 11, Article 430 (Paul Hamer/Art Neubauer)

1. No significant issues for API. 2. Paul H. may not be able to complete 2011 code cycle. New API

representation may be necessary. C. NFPA 70E – Std for Electrical Safety in the Workplace (Hamer/Barrios)

1. ROC acted upon at annual meeting. NITMAM’s submitted for batteries were rejected. Scope was modified to retain exception for utilities. Approved by NFPA Standards Council July 24, issued September 5.

D. NFPA 780 - Lightning Protection Code (Victor Minak)1. Meeting 9/20/2008. Proposals due November 21.

E. NFPA 496/497/499 1. No representation currently. (API denied membership request based upon

committee membership balance issues). 2. NFPA 496 not generating many proposals. 3. IEC 60079-2 Equipment Protection by Pressurized Enclosure provides

technical information on purging and pressurization. Not recognized by NEC.

F. PIP (Louis Barrios)

1. Electrical group has been very active and participation has increased. 2. Development underway for VRLA batteries.

G. IEEE/PCIC (Paul Hamer)1. Task force meetings at PCIC2. Travis Griffith: IEEE 1068 Motor Repair. Balloted 90% response 80%

approval. Three negative ballots were received, two were editorial in nature. One was from a committee member. 205 negative comment addressed by working group. Request new PAR from IEEE for additional year and re-ballot by end of November.

3. IEEE 841 Balloted. Negative ballots have been resolved. IEEE working on final document. Meeting 9/20/2008 to discuss next revision.

4. P1714 Recommended Practice for Industrial UPS. No update. Led by

Donald Dunn. 5. IEEE 1683 Increased Safety MCC. Two surveys have been conducted.

Meeting 9/20/2008 at PCIC. Will review results of a member survey of requested features for increased safety MCC.

6. IEC Motor Working Group - Paul Hamera) EXn, EXe. EXn motor working group meeting in Brazil early

November.b) Meeting on ASD driven motors in hazardous locations will be held

concurrently. 7. IEEE 1584 Arc Flash Calculations. Annex for establishing expectations

for engineering firms conducting studies. Should they have a licensed PE? Daleep Mohla seeking input for rewrite of several sections.

8. IEEE 303 Auxiliary Devices in Div 2/Zone 2 Areas. No activity. Travis Griffith.

9. 1566 New PAR approved. Bill Lockley. Meeting today. Working on 2nd edition

10. IEEE 1349. Loraine Paddin. Group is addressing differences in IEC and North American practices on purging and gas sensors for motors.

11. New PAR 1673 for high pressure process seals started. Meeting 9/20/2008. Lon Ballard. 3rd meeting at 2008 PCIC. Based on Canadian TIO. ISA 1227 covers single seal and dual seal devices. 1673 will cover testing requirements.

12. IEEE 1458 Molded Case Circuit Breakers. Meeting on 2nd revision.

H. ACC (Louis Barrios)1. Represented on 17 code panels including NFPA 496/497/499. Submitting

proposal on 5 kV non-shielded cables.

IV. Task Force ReportsA. Interdepartmental Advisory Group (IAG) / NEC 500/505 & RP500/505 (Mark

Goodman)1. RP 500 Reviewed ballot draft 9/19. Single column format. Ballot early

October.2. 2011 proposals reviewed. Code proposals due by November 7, 2008.

a) Non-shielded cable to 5kV and modified insulation thickness. 2011 proposal for exception to allow non-shielded 5 kV cable. Norb K. moved to accept two proposals as API proposals, Mark G. seconded. Approved unanimously.

b) Article 515 bulk storage area classification. Proposal to correct misprint in table 515-3 for bulk storage tanks.

c) Proposal for adding reference to API RP 500-2009 to 2011 NEC. d) Petroleum coke dust. Discussion underway for a proposal to

classify coke dust as a non-hazardous material (remove as a group F material).

e) Motion to accept in concept to develop these 3 proposals 2001. Moved by Mark G., David R. seconded. Action Item: add proposals here.

f) Sugar dust safe level is being researched as a result of recent incidents. .

g) RP 505. Will proceed with revision after balloting completed for RP 500. (2009 – 2010)

B. Standards 541, 546, & 547 (Barry Wood)

1. Std. 546-3rd edition is being published by API. September 30 target. PCIC paper Tuesday morning.

2. Std. 541-5th edition. Merged updates from 546. Working on additional comments. Discussion on arrangement of data sheets to separate vendor and purchaser data. Review data sheets at Spring API meeting. Anticipate ballot after fall 2009 meeting.

C. RP 540 – Elec. Installations at Petroleum Facilities (Donald Dunn/Travis Griffith)Section 1 – Introduction - Donald DunnSection 2 - Classified Locations or Electrical Equipment – Mark Goodman Reviewed Spring 2008 Section 3 - Electrical Energy Efficiency - Gabe D’AllevaSection 4 – Facility Power Systems - Royce King. Draft ready for review. Action Item: Donald to share with the group for discussion at the Denver meeting. Section 5 – Grounding and Lighting Protection – Paul Hamer and Roy HamiltonSection 6 – Motors and Controllers - Paul Hamer and Norb Klekowski Reviewed Spring 2008Section 7 - Lighting - Donald DunnSection 8 – Wiring - Steve KovacsSection 9 – Power Systems for Instrumentation and Process Control - Dan EatonSection 10 - Special Equipment - Donald DunnSection 11 – Inherent Electrical Safety - Louis BarriosAction: Louis will contact Donald Dunn about placing working copy on API website. Deadline February 1, 2009 for other revisions.

D. Standard 545 - Lightning Protection (Victor Minak)1. API 545 group to develop a proposal to NFPA 780 to move tank

grounding shunts below the liquid level for new tanks. Older tanks should be changed when major maintenance or seal repairs are performed. Mark Goodman moved to develop one or more proposals to API 780 to address issue of shunt sparking above roof. Norb Klekowski seconded. Approved unanimously.

2. Addressed whether API 545 should be a recommended practice or standard. It should be a RP.

3. Lightning shield thickness required or aluminum or steel. Testing performed to determine minimum required to prevent puncture. Tank geodesic domes. Current table not practical for those structures. Addressed with comment to table.

V. Other BusinessA. Denver API Spring and Anaheim PCIC Meeting Schedules

1. Spring 2009 API Refining Meeting, Denver April 27-29.a) IAG/RP 500/505/NEC Proposals. Monday, April 27- 15 people. b) Std. 541- Monday and Tuesday, April 27-28 - 25 people.c) RP 545 – Tuesday, April 28, - 15 people.d) SOEE/RP540 – Wednesday, April 29, 8 AM to 3 PM. 45 people.

Work on 540 in afternoon. 2. IEEE PCIC 2009, Anaheim. September 14 - 16

a) RP 500/505/NEC Proposals. Friday, September 11 all day. b) Std. 541- Thursday and Friday, September 10-11, prior to PCIC –

30 people.

c) RP 545 – Thursday, September 10, all day.d) SOEE/RP540 Saturday, September 12, morning 45 people.

B. Presentation on key changes to NFPA 70E-2009 (Hamer/Barrios).

VI. Adjournment. Rick Bried made a motion to adjourn. Mark Goodman seconded. The motion was approved. Meeting adjourned at 11:56 AM.