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The Sentinel Volume 11, No. 2 October 2014
Jesse and U.S. Grant– A Look At a Father and His Son
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Point in 1839. Jesse had heard that a town boy had flunked
out of the academy, so he contacted his congressman, Thom-
as Hamer, a man whom he hated, and still prevailed on him
to give Ulysses the open spot in New York.
The younger Grant
did not want to take this ap-
pointment his father had pro-
cured for him without his
knowledge and initially re-
fused. But he again showed
his non-rebellious nature by
eventually acquiescing, a de-
cision that would certainly
bode well for him down the
road of life.
Ulysses never hated
his father as a youth. He simp-
ly recognized that they were two different types of people
and approached things in polar opposite ways. Their rela-
tionship stayed solid, if distant, even after the younger Grant
left home. They corresponded as adults and got along rea-
sonably well, at least until after Shiloh in 1862. Grant had
been criticized in the press and elsewhere that he had been
surprised by the Confederate attack at Shiloh which was why
he almost met defeat there. But he insisted publicly that he
had not been surprised, that it was simply a fierce battle.
Grant later wrote what he though was a personal
and confidential letter to his father in which he actually did
admit that he never believed the Confederates would make a
determined attack at Shiloh. To his hor-
ror, his father had this letter published in
the Cincinnati newspapers. Grant was
furious and never forgave his father for
this breach of confidence. This was just
another typical example of how the two
men never came together in a relation-
ship like most of us would consider nor-
mal between fathers and sons.
If you are interested in pursu-
ing these kinds of strained father/son
relationships, we encourage you to get a
copy of John’s book (rt.). It
also covers Civil War notables W.T. Sherman,
Robert E. Lee and Abraham Lincoln, along with
sixteen others. You can contact John locally at
his email, [email protected] or go to Am-
azon.com.
One of our charter and longest active members, John
Crosby, was able to combine his avocation with his career for
us this month. John is a retired Professor of Family Develop-
ment and has recently published a book looking at the fa-
ther/son relationships between a number of famous Ameri-
cans. While the subjects include four Civil War era personages,
the rest range from Hitler to Mozart to Bing Crosby to the fic-
tion writer Pat Conroy.
This month, John chose to focus on just one of these
“pairs”- Ulysses S. Grant and his father, Jesse Grant. U.S.
Grant was born in very humble surroundings in Point Pleasant,
Ohio, just southeast of Cincinnati on the Ohio River (see pho-
tos at right). His father operated a tannery and this simple hap-
penstance of birth may well have led to what eventually made
him one of the greatest generals in the nation’s history.
Grant despised his father’s business, thinking the dis-
gusting sights and odors of such a place to be vile beyond be-
lief. In true 19th century fash-
ion, his father expected him to
work in the tannery, but the
younger Grant refused as much
as he possibly could. Rather
than rebel, as some children
might, he instead developed
skills in areas associated with
the business and persuaded his
father to let him do these things
most of the time, the principal one being to work with draft
horses outside. He was studious and tenacious in his will to
accomplish this skill, a skill that he knew would keep him
away from the sights and smells he loathed so much. This
would be similar to the way he dealt with the horrors of battle
in later life; don’t deny the need for being who you are, but be
steadfast in seeing that the job gets done.
By zeroing in on his horsemanship, Grant developed
few friends, had no pets and stayed mostly to himself. When
young beaus would take their girlfriends on a hayride, Grant
would be the one to drive the hay wagon...alone. But everyone
else knew that they would not have to deal with anything but
their companions because Ulysses was in the driver's seat.
Part of his quiet manner surely came from his mother,
Hannah Simpson Grant, as well. She was a woman neither
elated or depressed by motherhood. Throughout his life, just
like his mother, Grant kept his mouth shut except when neces-
sary, stayed to himself, never gave away his hand and was
completely poker faced about most everything.
Jesse Grant was tenacious like his son and this
showed in the way that he got Ulysses an appointment to West
U.S. Grant Jesse Grant
Grant’s birthplace and...
...its humble furnishings.
U.S, Grant and family
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150 Years Ago in November
2nd Small affair at Hazen’s Farm near Devalls Bluff,
AK .
4th Engagement at Johnsonville, TN.
8th Lincoln is re-elected.
11th Battle of Bull’s Gap, TN.
11th Union forces destroy all property of use to the
enemy in Rome, GA.
13th Union troops seek enemy guerillas in Pemiscot
City, MO.
16th Sherman orders Atlanta burned and then de-
parts on the March to the Sea.
18th Jefferson Davis calls for all possible resistance
against Sherman.
22nd Union forces occupy Georgia state capitol at
Milledgeville.
24th Skirmish at Columbia, TN.
25th Confederate saboteurs fail to set fire to New York
City hotels and the P.T. Barnum Museum.
28th Rosser’s Raid on New Creek near Keyser, WV.
29th Battle of Spring Hill, TN.
30th Battle of Franklin, TN, where the Confederate
assault is more intense than Pickett’s Charge.
***Quotes of the Month***
“General Grant was not endowed by nature with the
impressive personality and soldierly bearing of Winfield Scott
Hancock, nor with the peculiarly winning and magnetic pres-
ence of William McKinley– few men are; but under a less at-
tractive exterior he combined the strong qualities of both.”
Former CSA Gen. John B. Gordon in his Reminis-
cences of the Civil War, published in 1904.
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“Be careful, Ulyss: you’re a general now; it’s a good
job, don’t lose it.”
Jesse R. Grant in a letter to his son on August 7, 1862.
***
“General Grant is a copious worker and fighter, but a
meagre writer or telegrapher.”
Abraham Lincoln, taken from Col. Alexander
McClure’s Lincoln’s Y arns and Stories, 1904.
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“When Grant gets possession of a place, he holds on
to it as if he had inherited it.”
Abraham Lincoln, from Horace Porter’s Campaigning
with Grant, 1897. The comment was made to Gen. Benjamin
Butler.
Be a Road Scholar in 2015
One of our members, Ray Beeker, has participated in
several Road Scholar (formerly Elderhostel) trips and highly
recommends them to any and all. He has volunteered infor-
mation that shows several of these trips next year that are
geared to the 150th anniversary of the Civil War. Some of them
are:
Gettysburg, the Battle, the Place and the People– several
dates available through 2015.
A Divided State: The Civil War in Missouri– St. Charles,
MO; Aug. 30—Sept. 5
Civil War Generals; The Good, the Bad and the Ugly– Nat-
ral Bridge, VA; Apr. 26-30 & Sept. 27-Oct. 1
Lincoln’s Journey Home: Honor the Life and Legacy of a
Fallen Hero– Springfield, IL; Apr. 28– May 4.
How Colossal Miscalculations and Audacious Generals Pro-
longed the Civil War– Williamsburg, VA; May 11-
16.
The Battles for Tennessee and the Confederacy’s Last Hur-
rah– TN/KY & AL; Oct. 15-25
These trips will explore the people, battles and places
of the most significant event in our nation’s history. You will
be joined and enlightened by Civil War scholars, authors and
experts on every trip. For more details on these trips and a com-
plete listing of Civil War trips, you can call 877-426-8056 or go
to www.roadscholar.org/civil war. Bon voyage! James McPherson on the Civil War
Most of us know of and have probably read some of
the work of James McPherson, Pulitzer Prize-winning author
and retired Professor of Civil War history at Princeton Univer-
sity. In the October 5th New York Times Book Review section,
he gave a fascinating interview that was, for once, not about his
own work for the most part, but about the Civil War scholarship
of others, how they affected him and what he thought about
their work for a change.
While we won’t recount the entire article, some one-
line highlights are interesting and could help someone perhaps
focus their studies down the road. Here are a few…
Q. What was tha last truly great book you read? A. Freedom
National: The Destruction of Slavery in the United States, 1861
-1865 by James Oakes.
Q. What is the best book ever written about the Civil War? A.
Ordeal of the Union, The Emergence of Lincoln and The War
for the Union by Allan Nevins, actually an eight-volume set.
Q. Do you have a favorite biography of a Civil War-era figure?
A. Grant by Jean Edward Smith. (You might remember this
was a work that our October speaker, John Crosby, referred to
in his talk.)
Q. If you had to name one book that made you who you are
today, what would it be? A. Origins of the New South, 1877-
1913 by C. Vann Woodward.
Q. If you could require the president to read one book, what
would it be? The Bully Pulpit by Dor is Kearns Goodwin.
Q. You’re hosting a literary dinner party. Which three writers
are invited? A. Mark Twain, John Dos Passos and William
Faulkner.
These are some fascinating answers by someone we
may have assumed read only Civil War literature. For the rea-
sons behind these answers and the entire interview, go to
www.nytimes.com/books.
Another Crosby Book Soon to Be Out John Crosby, this month’s speaker on U.S. Grant and
his father, will soon have another new book out. It is John’s
first work of fiction entitled Divided We Stood, and gives at
least one man’s answer to that nagging contra-factual question,
“What if the South had won?” To get on a notification list for
the anticipated release date of early December, 2014, go to:
http://www.DividedWeStood.com
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USPS Civil War Stamps Out Now The latest version of the 150th anniversary series of
Civil War stamps is now out. This year’s set of stamps com-
memorates two pivotal events in the war.
One is the siege of Petersburg during the fall
and winter of 1864-65. This was essentially the beginning of
the end of the Army of North-
ern Virginia, with only the
mad dash to Appomattox in
early April as the final curtain
to fall on Lee’s valiant but
diminished army.
The other stamp
highlights the Battle of Mo-
bile Bay in August 1864. Here
the Confederacy lost it’s last
viable seaport and US Admi-
ral David Farragut uttered
those immortal words, “Damn
the torpedoes! Four bells, Captain Drayton, go ahead, full
speed!”
These stamps will only be available for a limited
time, so if you are interested in letting your correspondents
know where your interests lie when they receive mail from
you, don’t wait too long!
Fort...or Fortress Monroe?
As a follow up to last month’s travel piece, it was in-
teresting to get a definitive answer to a question that has been
out there for years. Many of us have heard the place of Jeffer-
son Davis’ imprisonment after the war at the southern tip of the
James River peninsula referred to as both “Fortress Monroe”
and “Fort Monroe”. So which is correct?
That question is addressed in the current caretaker’s
publication “Tales of Old
Fort Monroe”, #5. By defi-
nition, a fort is a fortifica-
tion containing a garrison
(body of troops). A fortress
is a fortification enclosing a
town within its walls.
While very large at 63
acres, Fort Monroe never
enclosed a town.
But newspapers commonly referred to it as Fortress
Monroe during the Civil War. The New Y ork Herald even had a
regular column titled News from Fortress Monroe. This confu-
sion was further supported when, in 1880, the Post Office, a
division of the federal government, changed the name of its
office there from Old Point Comfort to Fortress Monroe. While
the military immediately objected and made repeated attempts
to get the Post Office to change it to Fort Monroe, “Fortress”
stuck until it was finally and officially changed it to Fort Mon-
roe in November of ...1941, over sixty years later!
So if you visit today, in its new incarnation as a nation-
al monument, and you refer to the old bastion as Fortress Mon-
roe, you just might receive a polite but firm “tsk, tsk” from the
park service and volunteer staff working there.
Special Meeting in December Some friends of the roundtable, the members of the
Hoosier Lines Model Railroad Club, have asked about the pos-
sibility of having an encore presentation of the April, 2012,
MCCWR meeting topic on the Great Locomotive Chase. The
presenter, our president Scott Schroeder, has graciously agreed
to this request and it is now set
for Wednesday evening, De-
cember 17th, 7:30 pm, at the
History Center.
The Andrews Raid, often called the “The Great
Locomotive Chase”, is one of
the most well-known and dra-
matic sagas of the American
Civil War. It’s the story of a
daring band of Union soldiers
and civilians attempting to steal a confederate train, run it
through the heart of the Confederacy and cripple the southern
transportation and communication network by burning bridges
and tearing up telegraph lines. This bold plan almost succeed-
ed. This talk explores what actually happened during the raid,
as well as its equally interesting aftermath.
This is a derring-do true-life adventure story from the
Civil War that even has a Bloomington connection, so if you
saw it before and would like to enjoy it again, or if you missed
it the first time, here is your chance to catch up . Join us on
December 17th!
Volunteers Always Welcome Our “small” Overlease Library of donated books,
magazines, etc. has had many additions
and not much upkeep. If you are a good
organizer and might be interested in help-
ing to get this beast under control, contact
secretary and newsletter editor Steve Rolfe
at 812-322-0628, or [email protected].
November Meeting Program The program at our next meeting on Nov. 11th, will
be Detectives and Spies: U.S. Army Intelligence Opera-tions in Indianapolis During the Civil War presented by
Dr. Stephen Towne. The U.S. Army responded to growing threats to its
integrity arising from desertion, draft dodging, and armed re-
sistance to the draft in the Midwest during the Civil War by
creating detective bureaus to collect intelligence on armed
secret organizations that impeded the Union war effort. Army
detectives and spies successfully infiltrated these groups and
foiled plots to raise insurrection and release Confederate
POWs. Stephen Towne will show how Indianapolis was a
central hub for Army intelligence operations.
Stephen E. Towne is Associate University Archivist
at IUPUI. He has published extensively on Civil War-related
topics. His latest book, Surveillance and Spies in the Civil
War: Exposing Confederate Conspiracies in America’s Heart-
land, is forthcoming from Ohio University Press. Join us on
Armistice Day to learn a bit of Indiana history we are guessing
you did not know.
Don’t Forget Fall is Membership Time
If you have not sent in your dues yet, please consider
doing so by using the form on the last page of this newsletter
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Capt. Ephraim Waterman Wiley, Co. H, 8th Maine Inf.—Grandfather of former MCCWR President David Wiley. Present
or active at Port Royal, Fort Pulaski, Drewery’s Bluff, Cold Harbor, Chaffin’s Farm, Deep Bottom, Spring Hill, White Oak
Road, Fort Gregg, Fort Baldwin, Petersburg and Appomattox.
Sgt. Charles Thomas Shanner, Co. A, 63rd Indiana Volunteer Inf.- Great-grandfather to MCCWR board member John Crosby.
Chattanooga-Atlanta Campaign, Clay Springs, Battle of Atlanta.
Col. James McMannomy, Commander, 63rd Indiana Volunteer Inf.- Ancestor of MCCWR member Matt Hoagland. Second
Manassas, fought Morgan’s Raiders at Shepherdsville, Kentucky.
Pvt. William Nicholas Shiflet, Co. I, 10th Alabama Infantry—2nd Great Grand Uncle to Kevin Shiflet, MCCWR member. En-
gaged, to some degree, at Dranesville, Yorktown, Williamsburg, Seven Pines, Gaines Mill, Frazier’s Farm, Second Manassas, Harp-
ers Ferry, Sharpsburg, Hazel River, Fredericksburg, Gettysburg, Wilderness, Spotsylvania, Second Cold Harbor, Petersburg, High
Bridge, Farmville and Appomattox. Pvt. Shiflet is only one of a total of seventeen of Kevin’s ancestors who served the Confederacy,
including thirteen cousins, two third great granduncles and two second great granduncles.
Jacob Mann, Co. A, 16th Iowa Inf.- Ancestor of Allan Sather , MCCWR member . Fought at Resaca, Adairsville, New Hope
Church, Kennesaw Mountain, Peachtree Creek, and Bald Hill (Atlanta) where he was captured and sent to Andersonville Prison.
Sgt. Miles M. Oviatt, US Marine Corps- Great grandfather of Mary Pat Livingston, MCCWR member . Served aboard USS
Vanderbilt, USS Brooklyn. Fought in Battles of Mobile Bay and Fort Fisher. Commended for Medal of Honor for his service at Mo-
bile Bay. Voyages included south Atlantic, Indian Ocean chasing blockade runners and capturing those renegades ships.
Pvt. Luther Oviatt, Pennsylvania 14th Cavalry, Co. I- Gr -Gr-Gr Uncle of Mary Pat Livingston, member MCCWR. Harper's Fer-
ry, Monocacy Bridge protection of B&O RR. Died at Hammond Hospital, Point Lookout while on duty. Buried Arlington Cemetery.
Pvt. Cyrenas A. Young, 85th New York Infantry, Co K.- Oviatt ancestor of Mary Pat Livingston. Plymouth, Kingston, New
Bern, Petersburg, Suffolk. Spent time at Andersonville Prison, then sent to Florence Prison where he died days before the war ended.
Cpl. James Dickson- 10th
Wisconsin Infantry, Co. D; 3rd great grandfather of MCCWR member Scott Schroeder. His only real
engagement was at the Battle of Perryville where he was killed in action.
Pvt. William Taylor Neville- 8th Iowa Infantry, Co. A; 3rd great grandfather of MCCWR member Scott Schroeder. Engagements:
Battle of Shiloh, Vicksburg, Red River Campaign. Captured at Shiloh in the Hornets’ Nest. Exch. Oct. ’62 and returned to his unit.
Reuben Newman—27th Indiana Infantry, Co. I, “Putnam County Grays”- Great-great-grandfather of member Eric Newman.
Wounded at Antietam. Also fought at Gettysburg, Winchester, etc. Served Aug. ‘61-Nov. ‘64. Died June 13, 1905. Buried in New
Providence Cemetery in Putnam County, IN.
Cpl. James Stark– 124th Ohio Infantry– Saw service in Kentucky, then Tennessee in the Chattanooga campaign. In action at
Spring Hill and in the Tullahoma campaign. Killed at Chickamauga, Sept. 19th, 1863.
MCCWR Roster of Honor
Contact Information President & programs Scott Schroeder 876-9751 [email protected]
Secretary, newsletter ed. Steve Rolfe 322-0628 [email protected]
Treasurer Kevin Shiflet 361-7491 [email protected]
Hospitality Randy Stevenson 824-5284 [email protected]
Board Rep John Crosby 339-2572 [email protected]
Board Rep Ray Beeker 331-8925 [email protected]
Webmaster Rick Watson 332-4483 [email protected]
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Civil War Events
Upcoming events that might be of interest and that are mostly not too far away, and other CW related activities/sites
Ongoing - Civil War Trust 150th Events Site– The Civil War Trust is an excellent r esource for information on both the time-
line and upcoming events for the Sesquicentennial of the war. Just go to www.civilwar.org/150th-anniversary/150-events/.
Ongoing - Lew Wallace Study and Museum– Crawfordsville, IN, is the home of perhaps the state’s most famous general of
the war. Wallace, and the Civil War controversy arising from his division’s “tardiness” during the first day of the Battle of Shiloh,
was the subject of his biographer, Gail Stephens, when she spoke at our roundtable a couple of years ago. You can “read all about
it” in her excellent book Shadow of Shiloh: General Lew Wallace in the Civil War which is available in the Monroe County History
Center gift shop. Upcoming Events November 6 - Civil War Lecture: "Civil War Relief Work"; December 5 - Holiday Tea & Fash-
ion Show; December 13 - Last Day of 2014 Exhibit "Vindication: Lew Wallace in 1864" http://www.ben-hur.com/
Ongoing -Kentucky’s Generals- “Kentuckians in the Civil War” is an ongoing exhibit of por traits of prominent native sons of
the state of Kentucky who were US and CS generals— Battle of Richmond Visitors’ Center, Richmond, KY. http://
visitorcenter.madisoncountyky.us/ Contact [email protected]. , 859-624-0013.
Ongoing -"An Evening with the Painting," after -hours extended behind-the-scenes look at the Gettysburg Cyclorama at the Get-
tysburg NMP visitor center. $20. gettysburgfoundation.org NOTE: This program is offered per iodically throughout the year and
is well worth the admission fee (all fees go to the preservation of the painting, by the way) because you not only get to see the iconic
painting “up close and personal”, but also a “pre-lecture” on its history, and without the distraction of hundreds of people (mostly
school kids!) elbowing for position on the regular public viewing platform. Any time you are going to be in Gettysburg, be sure to
ask about this fascinating program. Check the link above or go to www.nps.gov/gett
Nov. 8- Play, "Incident at Fort Granger," at the fort, 308 Eddy Lane, Franklin, TN. 3 pm. Free. visitwilliamson.com
Nov. 8-9- Living history weekend at the Parker ' s Crossroads Battlefield, TN. Camps and demonstrations. More info:
parkerscrossroads.org
Nov. 13-14- Symposium, " 2014: The Final Shots in Tennessee," the annual Tennessee signature event in Franklin. tnvaca-
tion.com/civil-war
Nov. 14-15- Living history and family activities at Carnton and the Car ter House in Franklin, TN. battleoffranklintrust.org
Nov.15- Symposium, " The African-American Experience in the Civil War Era," at Lipscomb University in Nashville, TN.
9:30-11:30 am. Free. Details, schedule: lipscomb.edu/history/event/detail/4994
Nov. 15- Walking tour , " The Last Full Measure," at the Chattanooga (TN) National Cemetery. 1:30 pm. Free. nps.gov/chch
Nov. 15-16- Reenactment, " Battle of Franklin" in Franklin, TN. Battles both days. BattleofFranklinTrust.org
Nov. 22- Exhibit, talks, reception, " Happy Birthday, Mr. Stanton!" par ty for Lincoln's Secretary of War , at Histor ic For t
Steuben, 120 S Third St, Steubenville, OH. 11 am-1 pm. Free with admission. oldfortsteuben.com
Nov. 22-23- Anniversary ranger programs, " Battles for Chattanooga," at the Lookout Mountain battlefield (Point Park) and
other locations in Chattanooga, TN. nps.gov/chch
Nov. 29 & 30- Bus tours each day, " Battle of Franklin," with Ed Bearss. Breakfast 8:30 am at the Lotz House, bus leaves at 9
am. Tours ends 1 pm. $100. Reservations: 615-790-7190
Nov. 29-30- Reenactment, " Battle of Spring Hill," at the Rippavilla Plantation and the Spr ing Hill (TN) Battlefield, 5700
Main St, south of Spring Hill. rippavilla.org.
Nov. 30- Living history, anniversary marches in Franklin, TN. One group leaves Winstead Hill, another group leaves from
Fort Granger. Both converge on Carter House. 4 pm. Free. visitwilliamson.com/events/?eventID=256
Nov. 30- Illumination, " Battle of Franklin," 10,000 candles throughout Franklin, TN. carnton.org
EDITOR’S NOTE: Many of the events below are associated with the Battle of Franklin 150th commemoration. This bat-
tle, Nov. 30, 1864, was a pivotal event and signaled the end of the Confederate threat in the west for the most part. If you
have never been to Franklin, it is well worth the 5-6 hour drive.
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