Analysing data in the Virtual Observatory: Spectra of stellar populations
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Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Analysing data in the Virtual Observatory:
Spectra of stellar populations
Philippe Prugniel
Observatoire de Lyon & Observatoire de Paris
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Context
• The VO is presented as a mean to facilitate astronomical research– By discovering and accessing data (observations and models)
– By extracting the information (statistics, fits to models …)
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Context
• The VO is presented as a mean to facilitate astronomical research– By discovering and accessing data (observations and models)
– By extracting the information (statistics, fits to models …)
• Responsibility of VO is to provide the standards and some infrastructure (like libraries to use the standards, validators…)– Standards for data exchanges, query protocols…
– Description of the data
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Context
• The VO is presented as a mean to facilitate astronomical research– By discovering and accessing data (observations and models)
– By extracting the information (statistics, fits to models …)
• Responsibility of VO is to provide the standards and some infrastructure (like libraries to use the standards, validators…)– Standards for data exchanges, query protocols…
– Description of the data
• It is a big task– Because the standards need to be general
– Need consensus in an heterogeneous community
– … need compromises
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Guided by science cases
• Classify / identify stellar spectra
• …
• Analyse spectra of stellar populations
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Fitting population spectra
Observed spectrum
Modelled spectrum
FitStar Formation History …
As good as possible
Better than the observations
Get as much as possible from the
observations
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Fitting population spectra
Observed spectrum
Modelled spectrum
FitStar Formation History …
As good as possible
Better than the observations
Get as much as possible from the
observations
Approaches:Spectrophotometric indices
-> well calibrated, but uses only a fraction of the signalSED fitting (Shape of the spectrum)
-> sensitive to extinction & flux calibration uncertaintiesSpectrum fitting (Absorption lines)
-> importance of the spectral resolution
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Fitting population spectra
Observed spectrum
Modelled spectrum
FitStar Formation History …
As good as possible
Better than the observations
Get as much as possible from the
observations
Approaches:Spectrum fitting: Absorption lines
-> importance of the spectral resolutionFits simultaneously the characteristics of the stellar
population and the internal kinematics
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Fitting population spectra
Observed spectrum
Modelled spectrum
FitStar Formation History …
As good as possible
Better than the observations
Get as much as possible from the
observations
Approaches:Spectrum fitting: Absorption lines
-> importance of the spectral resolutionFits simultaneously the characteristics of the stellar
population and the internal kinematics
Chilingarian 2006, thesis
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Why do we want the VO there?
1) More modularity in the spectral modelling to understand the discrepancies between the codes?
2) Give a simple access to a complex method
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
SSPs
Bruzual &Charlot ‘03
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
SSPs
Inversion byPegase.HR
Le Borgne + ,04
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
Is it due to the stellar libraries? To the way they are interpolated? To implementation aspects in the programs? To the physics of the model?
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
Is it due to the stellar libraries? To the way they are interpolated? To implementation aspects in the programs? To the physics of the model?
Easy…Just have to permute the librariesor the physical ingredients …
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
Is it due to the stellar libraries? To the way they are interpolated? To implementation aspects in the programs? To the physics of the model?
Easy…Just have to permute the librariesor the physical ingredients …
Aie…*
The synthesis programs have proprietary formats for the libraries and for the physical ingredients, they are not fully documented nor publicly available…
* Ouch
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
Is it due to the stellar libraries? To the way they are interpolated? To implementation aspects in the programs? To the physics of the model?
Easy…Just have to permute the librariesor the physical ingredients …
Aie…The synthesis programs have proprietary formats for the libraries, for the physical ingredients, they are not fully documented not publicly available…
Koleva et al. 2007
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Discrepancies between the models
Is it due to the stellar libraries? To the way they are interpolated? To implementation aspects in the programs? To the physics of the model?
Easy…Just have to permute the librariesor the physical ingredients …
Aie…The synthesis programs have proprietary formats for the libraries, for the physical ingredients, they are not fully documented not publicly available…
To understand the differences between analyses performed with various methods and models, ones needs to check individually each ingredient, or each module.We are seeking for interoperable bricks…We need a VO workflow.
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Simple access to a complex process
isochronesStellar librariesStellar libraries3D obs & cal
PEGASE.HR
Data reduction
Resolution matching
Adaptive filter (tessellation)
1D-extraction Inversion
Field reconstruction
Galactic extinction
interpolation
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Simple access to a complex process
Stellar librariesStellar libraries
interpolation
Elodie interpolator,SSA in the VO(see poster session)
Other benefice of VO services:A function can have different usages than the one for which it was developed…Here: do stellar classification
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
How to fit?
Server:model
Client:GUIfitting enginevisu
Server:modelfitting engine
Client:GUIvisu
or
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
How to fit?
Server:model
Client:GUIfitting enginevisu
Server:modelfitting engine
Client:GUIvisu
or
Spectroscopy and the VO -- Philippe Prugniel -- ESAC 21-23 March 2007
Spectra of stellar populations: summary
• Use the VO as a framework for the comparisons of the ingredients of complex models
• Extract individual functions of a wider interest, useful in different contexts
• Develop workflows in the VO