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American Iron and Steel Institute
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American Iron and Steel Institute
Moderator: Lisa Harrison
May 16, 2013
1:30 p.m. ET
Operator: Good afternoon. My name is (Hope) and I will be your conference operator
today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the American Iron
and Steel Institute Press Briefing. All lines have been placed on mute to
prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a
question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this
time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. If you
would like to withdraw your question, press the pound key.
Thank you. Miss Lisa Harrison, you may begin your conference.
Tom Gibson: OK. Are we -- we’re live then? OK. OK. Welcome to this morning’s press
briefing. I’m Tom Gibson, President and CEO of the American Iron and Steel
Institute. AISI serves as the voice of the North American steel industry in the
public policy arena and advances the case for steel in the marketplace as the
preferred material of choice.
Together, our member companies represent over three-quarters of both the
U.S. and North American steel capacity.
Participating in today’s press briefing are:
AISI Chairman, Mike Rehwinkel, who is President and CEO of EVRAZ North America
AISI Vice Chairman, Mike Rippey, who is President and CEO of ArcelorMittal USA
AISI Vice Chairman, Chuck Schmitt, who is President of SSAB Americas
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AISI Director, John Ferriola, who is CEO and President of Nucor Corporation
AISI Director, Sergei A. Kuznetsov, who is CEO of Severstal North America
AISI Chairman, Mike Rehwinkel, will kick things off by commenting briefly
on the latest industry data. Mike will also touch on our policy priorities for
2013. And each participant will offer his thoughts on some of the industry
policy priorities. After those opening comments, I’ll open the floor to Q&A.
I do have one request. Please remember before asking your question to give
your name and news organization.
And with that, I’ll turn it over to Mike. Thanks.
Mike Rehwinkel: Thanks, Tom. We’re nearly halfway through 2013 and though the economy is
recovering at a moderate pace, there are still some challenges for the
remainder of the year including possible tax increases, across the board cuts in
government spending, high unemployment and slowing growth in the
manufacturing sector.
However, there have been some recent reports that make us cautiously
optimistic. Domestic capacity utilization was 77 percent in the first quarter,
up from the previous quarter when it was 70 percent. Total finished import
market share year-to-date is at 23 percent.
Capacity utilization is below 80 percent and the most recent still important
monitoring analysis data for April showed another strong month for imports.
We continue to urge the U.S. government to be more proactive regarding the
unfair trade that would cause harm to our recovery.
The confirmation process for the Administration’s recently announced
nominees for the key trade and economic positions in government – The
Secretary of Commerce and the U.S. Trade Representative – presents an
opportunity for the Administration and the nominees to take a strong stand
against unfair trade.
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Industry-wide, first quarter shipments were 24 million tons. We expect to see
some strengthening in demand in the second half of the year. Steady
improvement in automotive demand according to the Automotive Market
Research Council-Wide Vehicle Original Equipment Committee means that
North American white vehicle production will reach 15.86 million units with
about a 3 percent increase annually through 2018.
In 2014, production is estimated at 16.34 million units. Metal packaging
demand, measured for steel and aluminum in North America, is forecasted to
grow about 13% from 2011 to 2016, according to a 2012 report from The
Freedonia Group.
The construction sector is also projected to see modest growth in 2013. The
positive factors supporting construction growth are fragile; however, it could
easily be overwhelmed by the general health of the U.S. economy.
Overall, housing starts in 2013 with projected increase approximately 23
percent, but bear in mind that this gross is from the very low levels of activity
experienced in the collapse of the housing bubble.
Non-residential building construction is forecasted to improve by 6 percent in
2013 with strongest growth in the resale, warehouse and hotel markets. The
education health care construction forecast continues to be sluggish.
Highway and bridge construction is projected to rebound about 3 percent.
The power generation transmission market is forecasted to slow down in 2013
due to the completion of several large projects. We should see modest to
strong growth and electric transmission infrastructure however.
Pipeline construction, which rebounded substantially in 2012, should continue
strong growth in 2013 along with natural gas and shale gas development.
But this point is very important. The energy renaissance that can benefit our
industry and create jobs needs to be unencumbered by overly stringent federal
regulation.
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As I mentioned in my testimony before the House Energy and Commerce
Committee in March, we need a reasonable streamlined regulatory approval
process for the construction in permitting of new facilities or modernization of
existing ones.
The bureaucratic permitting process has become controlled by special
interests that raise issues outside the purview of the process simply to delay an
approval. A case in point is to propose the Keystone XL pipeline.
It will provide a competitively-priced, reliable North American supply option
for Gulf Coast refineries and has met extensive regulatory approvals –
including the State Department’s - yet it is being delayed in a tug of war
between State, the EPA and the President. This could undermine the goal of
secure, stable energy supplies in our country.
Overall, we believe that slightly expanding demand in the auto sector, energy
and construction markets, and hopefully the construction of the Keystone
pipeline, we contribute to a growth trend in steel shipments in ’13 and ’14.
This year, AISI has, again, identified several policy priorities that my
colleagues will touch on. One; enforcing fair trade, but keeping our trade
laws strong and strictly enforced. Two; avoiding excessive government
regulation that reduces industrial competitiveness. Three; investing in
transportation infrastructure. Four; developing tax policies to support U.S.
manufacturing competiveness. Five; promoting cooperative worker health
and safety programs. And six; putting a national energy strategy in place that
promotes development of informal and abundant energy supply.
Now, I’d like to ask Mike Rippey if he would touch on a potential growth
market ahead, especially from the auto perspective.
Mike Rippey: Thank you, Mike, and good morning, everyone. The companies represented
here today at this annual meeting operate at the cutting edge of material
science. We produce high technology solutions for our customers and we do
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so with advanced equipment operated by highly skilled and tech -- in a tech-
savvy workforce.
We provide great jobs for American workers and for our country. Some of
these materials include advanced high strength steels, which you likely have
heard much about. They have helped auto makers reduce vehicle weight
without sacrificing safety, sustainability and affordability for the past 10 years.
I wanted to share with you a quote about the evolution of vehicles and it’s a
simple quote. “The day of the passenger car made primarily of iron and steel
is on the lane and it will give ground to aluminum, magnesium and plastics.”
This is a quote from an -- from an article in Cars Magazine and it’s from 1953.
It clearly wasn’t true then, and it’s not true today. In fact, the ironic thing is
that Cars Magazine is no longer here, but steel certainly is.
Since the early 1900’s, steel has been the preferred material for automotive
design – it’s strong, formable, and low cost. But, customer expectations and
government regulations such as CAFE have challenged automakers to
increase safety, improve fuel economy and reduce CO2 emissions, all at the
same time – a huge challenge.
Steel is meeting this challenge.
When the Transportation Department and the EPA first announced the goal of
bringing the fleet to a corporate average fuel economy of 54 and a half miles
per gallon by 2025. There were those -- pardon me -- those who proclaimed
game over for steel.
We know otherwise and to demonstrate this, we obtained from the EPA an
NHTSA, the very computer models they used to assess fuel-saving
technologies and set up the standards. These models show that the weight
reduction we can achieve with advanced steels combined with anticipated
powertrain improvements can get fleet to 54 and a half miles per gallon.
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Models also show that steel gets the fleet to 54 and a half at lower costs and
lower greenhouse gas emissions and other materials. So what’s the reason for
steel’s continued success? The answer is simple. While there are a number of
competing alternative materials, none offer the complete package of safety,
light-weighting, affordability and sustainability offered by steel.
Thank you. Chuck will now make a few comments about the importance of
our energy future. Chuck?
Chuck Schmitt: Thank you, Mike. Our industry’s international competitiveness depends on
our ability to capitalize on the discovery and development of North America’s
shale resources as was outlined in (Michael Palmer’s) presentation in this
morning’s session.
As an industry, we consume large amounts of natural gas that will benefit
from the increased supply resulting from shale production, which keeps gas
both reliable and available at low costs.
Secondly, the steel piping two products that U.S. steel makers produce are
integral to the expiration, production and transmission of natural gas and oil.
Greater development of our domestic shale resources means greater demand
for steel that translates into more jobs, more investment, and that’s good for
everyone.
But a number of current thorough regulatory efforts threatened to limit the
amount of domestic oil and natural gas resources available for access and
production, number one, EPA has finalized air emission regulations from new
on-shore oil and gas production sites by 2015 and may potentially regulate
water usage at these sites in the same timeframe.
Department of Interior proposed rules to regulate natural gas, production from
public lands, and Department of Interior 5-year plan for outer continental shelf
oil and natural gas access would prevent production from 85 percent of the
outer continental shelf.
And finally, EPA regulations of electricity generating utilities including the
Across State Air Pollution Rule, Mercury and Air Toxic Standards Rule, or
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Utility MAC, a new source performance standards for greenhouse emissions,
they raised the cost of electricity to large industrial customers like steel.
We as an industry are doing everything we can to increase energy efficiency
and are leading the way by effectively setting par for steel industry efficiency
worldwide. AISI members made substantial gains in reducing their energy
uses, as well as their environmental footprint over the last two decades.
The domestic steel industry has voluntarily reduced the energy intensity by 27
percent since 1990 while reducing its greenhouse gas emissions by 33 percent.
The U.S. Department of Energy recently indicated that the steel industry in the
United States has the lowest energy intensity and second lowest carbon
dioxide emissions intensity of any major steel producing country.
In closing, we need a comprehensive and market-driven energy policy built
around promoting full domestic energy sources support for industrial energy
efficiency improvements and the development of breakthrough technologies.
As members of AISI, this is one of our major priorities. I will now turn things
over to (John Ferriola).
(John Ferriola): Good morning. In order to strengthen our economy in competitiveness, we
need a healthy and growing manufacturing sector. To recover, our economy
needs jobs. The steel industry played a significant role in our nation’s
economic recovery because we’re a big jobs multiplier.
Every one job in the American steel industry supports seven additional jobs in
the U.S. economy. The current surge of steel imports puts our ability to reap
the benefits of our job-creating investments at risk.
Total steel imports increased 17 percent from 2011 and a whopping 38 percent
from 2010. Steel imports were up in every major product area and for most
major steel producing countries. The reason we are seeing this import surge is
that while America is a free market, many major steel producing countries are
not. Foreign governments in countries like China, India, Brazil and Egypt
interfere in the steel market through their state-owned enterprises, import
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restrictions, raw material export restrictions and subsidies that are in violation
of international trade rules.
These types of trade restrictions not only distort trade and steel products, but
also trade and steel-making raw materials as well. The fact is U.S. steel
makers and their workers can successfully compete with anyone in the world
on a level playing field, but we cannot compete against governments.
Some examples of trade distorting activities by other countries, Brazil doubled
its import duties on up to 100 products including 17 steel products and is
proposing increasing their export tax on scrap metal.
China by far are the worst offender, highly subsidizes its steel industry, which
is government owned and government controlled, and its market remains
heavily distorted and closed to outside competition.
And last year, China’s steel capacity reached an astonishing 970 metric tons --
970 metric tons of capacity. And to put that in perspective, comparing it to
the U.S. capacity and the United States capacity, which is about 120 million
tons, you can see it just warps the U.S. capacity.
And now, Japan is also being allowed into the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the
TPP, trade talks despite the historically closed nature of the Japanese auto
market and Japan’s recent actions to substantially weaken its currency.
There is a solution to these problems. Strong trade enforcements. This
includes removing trade barriers abroad and opening those closed markets. It
also means using the trade laws to address market distortions like dumping
and unfair subsidies, and addressing new types of trade issues such as evasion
and circumvention, and the effect of stated owned enterprises.
We have a tremendous opportunity to revitalize the American manufacturing
sector and strengthen our economy. If we have strong trade enforcement
coupled with upper policy areas discussed here today, America can once again
be a nation that makes and builds things, bidding jobs and process.
Thank you. I’ll now turn things over to Sergei.
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Sergei A. Kuznetsov:
Thank you, (John). Good afternoon.
The North American steel industry has long identified environmental
stewardship and commitment to sustainability as part of our industry's
strategic plan and our vision for the future. The industry is aggressively seeing
ways to reduce our environmental footprint even while producing the
advanced and highly recyclable steel that our economy needs.
Steel's superior performance minimizes environmental impacts when
measured through the entire life cycle.
As Mike mentioned, through the development and application of new
steelmaking technologies, the steel industry has reduced energy intensity by
27 percent and CO2 emissions by 33 percent per ton of steel shipped since
1990. The continuous recyclability of steel is fundamental to these
advancements. The overall recycling rate for steel has reached an all-time high
of 92 percent.
More than 85 million tons of domestic steel scrap was consumed by
steelmaking furnaces--recycling more than paper, plastic, aluminum and glass
combined.
This is largely because steel is the engine that drives the recycling of many
consumer goods, as evidenced by the recycling rates of many common
products, including automobiles (94.5%), appliances (90%), steel containers
(70.8%), structural steel (98%), and construction reinforcement steel (70%).
A key tool for the industry for advancing sustainability is the Life Cycle
Analysis approach, which is essential to measuring the real environmental
impact of a material. Steel has life cycle advantages over competing materials
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because of its relatively low energy use, high recyclability, conservation of
natural resources and the extensive re-use of by-products.
Steel (inaudible) lifecycle advantages over competing materials because of a
relatively low energy use, higher (inaudible), conservation of initial resources
and the extensive reuse of byproducts.
The steel industry is looking further than simply “going green” because,
unlike other industries, we already have been green for years. Sustained
commitments, promoting green living through recycling and innovative
thinking will keep the steel industry ahead of the curve for the benefit of all of
us.
With that, I’ll turn it back to Tom.
Tom Gibson: OK. Thank you, Sergei. At this time, we’ll take questions. We’ll all take a
person -- a question from the one, then one from the phone. I think we may
have more reporters on the phone than in the room, so we’ll -- for a couple of
rounds, you may adjust that.
So when you ask a question, please state your name and news organization
before your question. Yes?
Female 1: (Inaudible) and I was just wondering what kind of infrastructure
projects need to be done that would really further, I guess, not only your
company’s (inaudible)?
Tom Gibson: Well, we -- this is Tom Gibson for those on the phone. We need a -- we need
a long-term solution on highway funding, first off. We’ve got a stop gap that
gets us through another year and a half until September 2014, but we need a
long-term -- long-term bill to address that. That’s where the roads and the
bridges are addressed.
Yesterday, the Senate did pass a Water Resources Development Bill for
(inaudible) and dams. I think we saw with low water levels on the rivers over
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the winter, you saw what the effects can be if a routine maintenance is not
kept up. They had to do some emergency dredging. They had to remove
some (inaudible). The (inaudible) and dams -- the condition of the (inaudible)
and dams is no better than our bridges.
So passing a water bill is a good first start. There is an issue for all of these
public funding bills that’s tied to the topics that we talked about this morning
and that’s the funding question, especially in the case of highways. The bill
had relied on historically gas tax as its main funding source.
When we last did that bill -- or not last did the bill -- we did the bill about 10
years ago and projected on gas receipts far exceeding the actual need now.
Vehicles have changed, people’s driving habits have changed and the gas tax
is not any longer producing enough money.
So in the next generation, the funding issue really has to be front and center
because the need exceeds current funding levels. We’re just barely keeping
even now.
(John)?
(John Ferriola): This is (John Ferriola). I’d just like to build upon that and make a couple of
gentle comments about the infrastructure. Infrastructure in the United States
is in terrible condition, terrible condition, which poses a danger not only to
our citizens, but our ability to compete in the manufacturing sector with the
rest of the global countries.
You have to have a strong, safe, efficient infrastructure in order to be able to
enjoy the logistical competitive advantages that keeps us on par with our --
with other -- with other countries. So building upon what you said, Tom, I
encourage our government to take further action, continue to invest in
infrastructure, find ways to make it happen. We know the government is
challenged financially as are the states, but we must find a way to invest in our
infrastructure in the United States.
Tom Gibson: Thanks. We’ve got to take one from the phone. On the phone, do we have a
question?
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Operator: At this time, if you’d like to ask a question, press star, then the number one on
your telephone keypad. Your first question comes from the line of (Ed
Crooks), Financial Times.
(Ed Crooks): Hi. Good afternoon. (Ed Crooks) here from the Financial Times. Thanks
very much for taking the call. You talked a bit about the energy revolution. I
was interested in really trying to get you to sort of characterize the scale of it
and to just talk a little bit about how important it is for the industry and for
your company specifically.
When you look at what’s going on in gas and perhaps oil as well and the
effect on demand fuel products and the effect on energy costs, is there some
(inaudible) which is kind of, you know, nice to have and helpful and sort of a
good thing for the steel industry, but not really kind of transforming the
fundamentals of the business or is there something that you would really
describe as transformational and leading to a -- kind of a completely different
outlook for the way you’ve -- for -- about the future of steel in the United
States?
Mike Rehwinkel: Mike Rehwinkel. I’ll start first. There’s a number of us here that will
comment to that because it is a transformation. First, I’ll just -- I’ll use just
the -- what is the renaissance (inaudible) with just the pipeline production
itself is that the current pipeline production in North America will greatly
stand and that is just the natural steel that we produce (inaudible) quality go
into those pipes, and that in itself is going to cause the renaissance where
we’re having steel used in our good pipe going across, and it needs to be
North American steel-produced. Not foreign-produced.
And that’s the point that we’re trying to make to the import surge, but I think
the real renaissance is going to be low gas prices and probably Mike or (John),
would you like to comment to that?
(John Ferriola): Well, I think the exciting aspect of it is the ability that it will bring to
resourcing a lot of manufacturing back into the United States. Certainly, it’s
going to create a need for more steel that goes into the pipes to bring the gas
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underground to the -- to the user, but in addition to that, it will allow
manufacturing to resource back into the United States.
With manufacturing coming back, there’s many large equipment
manufacturers coming back to the States today. The new plants are being
built in the states. That provides a greater demand for our product so it
improves our ability to supply the market not only through the steel going into
the direct use of gas, but also indirectly through the insurgence of
manufacturing in the United States.
Sergei A. Kuznetsov: Yes, this is Sergei. (Inaudible) it is transformational and we’re seeing
many other industries (inaudible) energy related industries. The investments
are coming back into the country and while, you know, some companies
(inaudible) parts of the world, a lot of them are not thinking (inaudible) in the
United States because of the (inaudible) for low-cost energy and steel
(inaudible) products.
So always under construction (inaudible) going to those plants is going to
(inaudible) industry a lot. And one would think, I’d like to mention, the
results, the direct benefit to the industry, it’s the lower production cost, the
(inaudible), you know?
We are an industry that depends on energy and we’re seeing the benefits today
right now immediately from the lower cost of (inaudible).
Tom Gibson: Yes, we -- the industry as a whole consumed 327 billion cubic feet of natural
gas in 2011 the last year we had full data and you can do the math on what a --
what the difference between a $12, $13 natural gas world is and the $3 or $4
net dollar natural gas world.
And I’d just point to the chemical industry as a prime example of an industry
that was largely relocating to areas where natural gas was cheap and
affordable and it was going off shore at a very rapid pace and those ethylene
crackers (inaudible) built in the United States.
And you have to get the gas out of the ground, you have to get the gas in the
cracker, then you’ve got to build the cracker and all that involves steel. Then
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you’ve got to get the product out to the other people who take the primaries
and convert that into the products that you see, some of them sitting there, that
water bottle on your table.
So it’s just -- it transformed the industry in fundamental ways.
Mike Rippey: This is Mike Rippey from (ArcelorMittal). I think there’s an often overlooked
benefit to the transformational changes that are taking place in our energy
sector and has the effect on consumers, you know?
Consumers consume large amounts of natural gas to heat their homes every
winter and their home heating bills have been reduced dramatically as natural
gas has gone from $12 to the $3, $4 level that we’ve experienced today.
So as they have more disposable income, that income is available to put into
our economy and drive demand for appliances and automobiles and all of the
other things that the citizens of our great country consume every day.
So there’s a liquidity effect on the consumer balance sheet as well. So the
transformation extends beyond our industry and all aspects of our society.
(John Ferriola): If I -- if I can make one more comment, Tom...
Tom Gibson: Yes.
(John Ferriola): All of these great benefits that we’ve mentioned to you are dependent upon
the gas staying at home so that it can provide all of these benefits. So we
besiege our government to take a hard look to current discussions that are
going on concerning the exploitation of our natural gas.
With that, we would export these opportunities, these job-creating
opportunities that we’ve discussed up here today.
Tom Gibson: A question in the room?
Female: (Inaudible) hoping that the second half would turn around. (Inaudible)?
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Tom Gibson: I’ll start first and probably, Chuck, you’ll probably add to that as far as plates
and coil (inaudible). So where really the main issue I see is that there’s just
tremendous surge in foreign produced pipe coming into North America
because of the energy renaissance.
And so the pipe is made obviously with our good pipes and our -- with our
good plates and our good coil. And so those of us producing plate and coil are
not experiencing that renaissance because it’s -- that plate and coil is being
made overseas into pipe.
And so for this to pick up, you said it right. We’ve got to have some type of
government interaction in Canada and the U.S. to restrict that low-cost
unburdened pipe coming into North America. That’s the first start of this to
make the second half better than the first half.
Chuck Schmitt: Exactly. Just to expand on that a bit -- and I don’t know if, Tom, could
probably quote the world steel figures from recent conferences -- but the
bigger picture there is overcapacity and overcapacity that exists in Europe. It
certainly exists in Asia today; although, far less in North America.
And so with a lack of, you know, confidence in a strong growth of economy
today, you know, coupled with an oversupply, as Mike described, is not really
bringing the windfall that we would’ve expected that comes with this
renaissance.
Tom Gibson: Yes. And since Chuck cued up overcapacity, you know, we’re in a world
right now where there’s about 2 billion tons of steel-making capacity and 1.5
billion tons of steel-making demand, and that is -- that is just having dramatic
effects on the -- on the industry and we still see capacity being added. A lot of
its state-sponsored or state supported.
Sergei A. Kuznetsov: Yes, and I would add to that. With all the strong fundamentals as we see
on the (inaudible) situation that exists today in the marketplace that doesn’t
allow the (inaudible) make (inaudible) to be available to really invest in the
capacities, to be available to be (inaudible), to invest in new technologies, et
cetera, et cetera.
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So this (inaudible) we’re seeing in the industry are simply (inaudible) the
normal levels. And despite all the strong fundamentals (inaudible)
transformational things that we talked about.
Tom Gibson: Let’s take one from the phone.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of (Myra Pinkham), (Metal Center
News).
(Myra Pinkham): Hi. You talked -- as far as construction, you talked about the
infrastructure side housing. How about non-residential, which has been a
lagging market, and what kind of impact is that having on the specific steel
products that are used for non-residential construction?
Chuck Schmitt: I probably have a number on non-residential that’s not in front of me. Non-
residential has been very -- a very regional kind of thing depending on where
you are, what the non-residential market looks like.
Overall, it’s flat. (Larry), you got a -- you have a number in your head on
non-residential?
(Larry): (Inaudible).
Chuck Schmitt: Yes, I learned never to guess on giving out a number especially on the phone,
but we can get -- we can get the number. It is -- it is a very flat to slow growth
kind of scenario that we’re seeing in non-residential as there’s been a, you
know, absorption of a lot of that vacant capacity, the vacant square footage as
a result of the downturn, but it is a -- it’s a regional phenomenon with some
areas performing better than others.
Sergei A. Kuznetsov: Right. And the problem was (inaudible) see, you know, hardly any
growth there, and that’s what’s holding back (inaudible), for example, and
there’s a lot of capacity that is available there to sort of (inaudible) market.
So once the demand comes back, you know, we’re going to see a much
stronger environment, but until it’s there, that’s one of the things that is
(inaudible).
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Tom Gibson: A question in the room?
Female: Hi. I wanted to go back to energy and transformation of natural gas. Are you
guys specifically designing and, like, (inaudible) things like that for
commercial fleets and (inaudible) considered using natural gas in
locomotives?
Are you guys working with OEM industries to (inaudible) new products to
capture that (inaudible)?
Tom Gibson: Anyone want to take on that?
(John Ferriola): I would say I’m in the rail business producing rail. And so what we have seen
is the rail business is full. And because you’ve seen the stats of hauling the
crude from the Dakotas in particular down to the refiners is that rail is very
full with these cars going there.
So one segment of that is flourishing is the rail segment. You’ve seen
(inaudible) announcement on the earnings because of that. So that is -- that is
one thing we are working on is just the hire street rail and that we continue to
work on that because of the place of the product coming down.
As far as the tanker cars or barges and such, Chuck, if you -- it -- really it
ramped up some, then it kind of slowed down some is probably what I would
say from that perspective. Any other comments on that?
Mike Rippey: Mike Rippey. We -- I just -- go ahead, Chuck.
Chuck Schmitt: I’m sorry.
Mike Rippey: No, go ahead.
Chuck Schmitt: That -- as was presented from the gentleman from Marathon, there is a bit of
time lag from, you know, when you look at the light of this production and
bringing it online, building pipelines, getting pipelines approved, and this
rapid growth of rail as Mike described is one of the outcomes of that.
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It also extends to the waterways, the barges, and even trucking as described.
So it certainly has expanded into a wide range of transportation opportunities,
particularly to fill this fine line before additional pipelines can be brought
(inaudible).
Tom Gibson: And if you’re asking specifically about fuel tanks and fleet vehicles, if that
was where you’re going, we have a very -- a very aggressive strong program
in vehicle tanks right now and we have data that shows that steel tanks
outperform plastic tanks. You’re not going to put compressed natural gas into
any other (inaudible).
So -- and we can get -- we can get more information for you on that from our
market development program. We’ll follow up with you.
Female: Thank you.
Tom Gibson: A question on the phone?
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of (Allison Martell) with Thompson
Reuters.
(Allison Martell): Thanks. So I know that several steel industry leaders have asked Congress to
pass legislation directing commerce to treat undervalued currencies as a
subsidy, which I imagine would open the door to some more counter
(inaudible) duties.
I’m interested in the update on how you -- how that’s going, if you’re getting
any traction there, and can you talk about any other specific trade policies that
you’d like to see?
Tom Gibson: Well, as far as specific trade policies we’d like to see, we’re pushing very hard
to see a currency bill passed. We’ve had action in both Houses of Congress
over the past couple of years. We need both House of Congress to act in the
same year to pass -- to pass currency legislation.
Other things that could -- that would help is we’ve been supporting very
strongly the enforced act that would -- that would help us where if you get a
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favorable ruling to actually enforce it and avoid evasion of orders that exist --
and again, this is a bill that’s had some success from one House to the other.
We need to get this bill moving in both Houses this year. We’re soliciting
additional co-sponsors.
We had some progress in this in the Senate. One of the bill’s champions is
Senator Ron White. And so we’re looking forward to seeing that bill move a
little bit -- a little bit further down the line and actually become law.
Anybody else want to...
(John Ferriola): Tom, I’d just like to make a general comment about it. Our trade remedy
actions tend to be very, very reactive and not at all proactive, and we need to
have that changed. The current idea of having to suffer through serious injury
and harm before any action can be taken, it is clear that rules are being
violated is a silly way to approach the problem. You need to be much more
proactive and less reactive.
We need to take action before harm and injury occurs once we can prove that
they are, in fact, violating our laws.
Tom Gibson: Next question in the room?
Male: (Inaudible). Can you talk a little bit more about the prospects for auto
in 2013 and (inaudible)?
Mike Rippey: Mike Rippey. We continue to see good demand from our automotive
customers continuing through the balance of ’13 and well into ’14 and beyond.
There’s clearly a lot of pinned up demand and (inaudible) at historic levels
given some of the effects of the recession going back into 2009 and ’10.
So there’s certainly a lot of demand for automobiles continuing on through
2018. In particularly, when you look at the demographics of the driving
(inaudible) population in the United States, there’s a lot of new drivers
coming into the market for the first time and perhaps some of their ability to
consume has been held back by the high unemployment rates that exist in our
country particularly for the young.
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So as those young people find jobs, I suspect they’ll be like most of us and
look to enjoy the benefits of car ownership. So we see continued strong
demand for the next many years in automobiles.
Tom Gibson: I think we covered more quickly in autos that maybe was projected two or
three years ago. I think we’re going to end this year -- I think current
estimates are about 15.8 of North American vehicles built in projections for
2014 o r 16.4. That’s good, but it’s still below the -- you know, the 2005,
2000 average -- 2005, 2007 average of 17 million vehicles.
So it’s gotten better and that is a very strong market for steel, but it still -- it
still has a little room to go before we get back to where we were before the
recession.
Next question on the phone? I think we -- have we hit all the reporters in the
room for at least one question? We have. I’m going to take a couple on the
phone because I think I’ve got a cue on the phone. Next question on the
phone?
Operator: Again, if you would like to ask a question, press star one. And there are no
further questions via the phone line.
Tom Gibson: OK. Unless I go for another -- OK. We’ll -- go ahead.
Female: (Inaudible)?
Male: Tom, you want to...
Tom Gibson: Yes, sure. The U.S. E.U. negotiation is just at the beginning. The -- you
know, we really haven’t started that yet. There’s a consultation process that
goes on before that begins in earnest. There are no tariffs between the U.S.
and the E.U. on steel.
I think that we supplied comments to the U.S. government on the -- on the
issue. One of the issues -- big issues that seems to be out there is regulatory
harmonization. To make it easier, one objective is to make it easier, let’s say,
for an automobile producing in the United States to be exported to Europe, but
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to have regulations in both countries that are equivalent, and that would be --
that would be a good thing for the U.S. auto makers that desired ship to
Europe.
There’s -- you know, there’s an issue in Europe right now with some of the
regulatory policies that they’ve adopted, but if regulatory harmonization
means adoption here of some European-style regulations in other areas and
how they regulate factories and sources of emissions, that can be a real
problem.
So we have some questions there and we’re going to -- we’re going to be
heavily involved. We’ve been in consultations with our government trade
negotiators. We look forward to having the U.S. T.R. confirmed. (Michael
Kroman’s) been nominated to be U.S. T.R. The hearings haven’t been
scheduled yet to the best of my knowledge. We’re hoping that’ll be a quick
negotiation because they need the leadership there in place in order to be able
to accomplish this even while they have the TPP negotiations going on, which
have become -- have a very aggressive deadline and have become, I think, a
little bit more complicated with the -- with the addition of Japan. It will
become a formal part of negotiations later this summer.
That’s it? OK. Well, I want to thank you all for attending the press briefing
and look forward to seeing you at the rest of the conference. Thank -- and
thank my colleagues, thank my bosses here for participating. Thank you very
much.
Sergei A. Kuznetsov: Thank you.
Chuck Schmitt: Thank you.
Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today’s conference call. You may now
disconnect.
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