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Six Figure Blogging Call 4 Transcript AdSense Do’s and Don’t’s

Andy: We want to start off with the AdSense dos and don’ts.

Darren: That is right. It is really worth stating that there are a few things

that you should never do with AdSense. They have some rules and really

you want to not break those rules at all and not risk that. It would be my

worse nightmare to lose my AdSense earnings at the moment.

Don’t Click On Your Own Ads

Darren: Number one rule is don’t click on your own ads. I am constantly

surprised by how many people actually engaging in this practice of

clicking on their own ads. I know it is tempting but don’t do it because

they track where the clicks come from especially if you are logging into

your AdSense ads from the same computer that you are clicking on. They

track that stuff so don’t get into that.

Don’t ask others to click on your Google ads. I had someone yesterday ring

me and asking if I wanted to go into a program where they click my ads

and I click theirs.

Andy: Wow.

Darren: Just don’t do it. For one it’s going to get you banned from the

system, and two it is unethical, and three you’ll get sued for it if you get

into that thing. So don’t go for that.

If you do accidentally click on your ads, it’s probably ok. You’ll maybe get

away with it once or twice. Generally if I click on the ads, I’ll email Google

and tell them, “I’m really sorry. I accidentally clicked on some ads.” They

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respond really well to you emailing them to let them know of the problem.

It is just not worth it.

No Pop-Ups

Darren: Don’t employ pop-up prompts or automatic software

installations. Some people have been experimenting with installing

AdSense into pop-ups so their ads just suddenly appear in your screen.

That is against their rules.

Be aware of how your site is promoted. Don’t use spam to promote your

site. Don’t email people out. You can get in trouble with that. Don’t place

AdSense ads on sites that contain prohibited content. I think we talked a

little bit about that last week. They don’t like to be on adult content. They

don’t like to be on sites with lots of swearing and that type of thing. There

is a whole list of dos and don’ts in that regard on their policies page.

Don’t Mix AdSense with Other Contextual Ad Networks

Darren: Don’t place Google ads on the same sites as Yahoo! Publisher

contextual ads. You are not supposed to place them on the same pages as

AdSense ads.

Basically the rule is that they can’t be on a page where there are other

contextual advertising, that is, all other ads that look too much like Google

AdSense ads.

Don’t Tamper with AdSense Code

Darren: Don’t tamper with the AdSense code. You can change the colors

of your ads. You can change the sizes to the sizes that they specify but

don’t get into trying to change too much more than that without getting

permission first.

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Basically you want to give your users a positive experience. If you are

cluttering your page with lots of pop-ups and lots of too many ads then

Google sometimes actually sends you an email and says, “Can you pull it

back a little bit?”

Don’t Have Content-less Pages

Darren: You actually have to have some content on your page. It is

amazing how many people just fill up a page with ads and don’t actually

have any real content there. So that will get you into trouble as well.

If Google emails you, respond to them as quickly as possible. I find that

they are really quite courteous and they will respond you. If you are

emailing on a business day, they’ll respond to you usually within twenty-

four hours or so. Weekends, they don’t tend to work as much which is

probably a good thing. So they are pretty responsive to you so give

responses back to them.

Don’t Reveal All Your Stats

Darren: Don’t reveal all your stats. You can, I think, reveal the total of

what you earn in a month so what your check amount is, but you can’t

reveal things like click-through. You can’t reveal what your impressions

are, you can’t reveal what the click value is for each ad so just be careful of

that. If you are going to reveal your overall stats, you need to do that for a

reason, I wouldn’t recommend most people do that just because you’ll

start getting people copying your site.

I do that because I am trying to build some profile around this topic of

AdSense and to do that, you need to show that you got some earnings on

the board. But really, you wouldn’t want to reveal that too much.

Andy: I think a lot of this goes back to why the Google text ads were so

successful. I remember when we had all the banner ads, back in 1999 and

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2000; there was so much banner fraud back then. The reason Google’s ads

work is because they are more subdued and they are not in your face.

Darren: That is right. If you consider what people are seeing on your site

and ask yourself the question, “Would I want my products to be advertised

on this type of site?” You are doing a service for advertisers as well. Google

is now experimenting with ways that advertisers can now target your site.

So you want to actually have a good site up in that regard.

Don’t Mislabel Ads

Darren: You don’t want to label your ads as anything other than

sponsored ads or advertisements. Some people label their ads. They put

this banner above the ad saying, “Special product, click here,” or

something like that. That is seen as fraud again. You are not actually

allowed to draw any attention to your ads anymore than just saying

sponsored links or advertisements.

Don’t Insert AdSense Into Emails

Darren: Don’t try to insert your AdSense ads into emails. I know a few

people who tried to do that and one person has even worked at how to do

it. That is not in AdSense’s rules so you’ll just want to avoid that.

So that is a list of do not’s which we wanted to fit in last weeks but we just

ran out of time. This is a program with incredible potential so don’t mess

it up by breaking the rules.

Andy: Great so if there are any questions on AdSense or the content we

had from last week let’s go ahead and wrap that up so we can get into

week four.

Leah: Andy, I have one quick question. This is Leah.

Andy: Hi Leah, go ahead.

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Leah: I get blogs emailed to me from other people quite often. Is that an

ok practice to do? If you do that, is there a special way to do so that you

are not violating the AdSense?

Andy: Do you mean people are sending you their URL?

Leah: No you actually bring up the email and it has what their blog looks

like and then if you click-through, it will take you to their actual blog page.

Darren: I haven’t seen this practice before. Does it actually show you live

ads in the email or is it like a screen capture or a picture of what you’ll see

on their site?

Leah: That is a good question. I can forward one to you guys.

Darren: I would love to see one. I would think if the ads are live than it is

against AdSense’s policies. If they are just doing that on a mass, spammy

way to thousands of people, that is against their policies also.

I quite regularly notify people who I think would be interest in a post of

something I’ve written but I generally wouldn’t just sent that out to

anyone that I didn’t think would be interested. I think that is spam.

Leah: Ok.

Darren: So be careful.

Affiliate Programs

Andy: Alright well let’s dive into affiliates, Darren.

Darren: Okay, affiliate programs, for me, I’ll be upfront about this: They

don’t make me the majority of my income. I probably would say that it is

about ten percent of my income would come from affiliate programs. I use

Amazon.com’s affiliate program. You’ll get the links for some of these a

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little bit later in the call but that would probably be the main one and then

there is a program call Click Bank, which we will talk about later.

So just up front, they are the two that I use but there are thousands of

affiliate programs online. If you do a search on Google for affiliate

programs, you’ll find many, many results. Just about every online store

that you go to, every person who is selling a book or ebook, most of these

people will have some an affiliate program.

How Affiliate Programs Work

Andy: Do you want to walk through on how they work first?

Darren: Yes. Do you want to give us the brief on that?

Andy: Yes, usually with affiliate programs and probably a bunch of

people know this but if people in the call are not familiar with how they

work with an affiliate program, usually you go to either of the publisher’s

site, the product maker’s site or there are different affiliate services that

will handle affiliate programs for large amounts for different companies.

So you go ahead and sign up. Usually you’ll get a certain user ID and a

referral link. For some programs, you have to register per product

promoted. Other ones you’ll just get one link and then you can find

products that are aligned with your site’s focus and topic. Then feature

those on your site with a special link that is tracked to your account. So

when a visitor on your site clicks the link that is your affiliate link, if that

person purchases, you get a commission. Many times, it is not just a big

click-through right then. A lot of times it tracks that particular lead for

months or years sometimes.

Darren: That is right. With a program like Amazon it is not an easy

product that you link to but any products that they buy after clicking on

your link in their system you’ll make a small commission. Basically it is a

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commission based system. Each program will have a different percentage

of what you are being paid if someone buys the products.

So last week with AdSense, you get a payment when they click on the ad.

Here you need to not only get the click but you need to get a conversion of

some sort or sometimes they’ll pay you if you give them a ‘solid lead’, is

the terminology. Really you need an action beyond the click to get a

payment with an affiliate program.

Affiliate Program Tips

Darren: We’ve put up some affiliate program tips. We are going to work

through these thirteen different areas and just talk about these ways that

you can improve your affiliate programs. Then we’ll move on to talking

about giving you some examples I guess of different affiliate programs

that we’ve used and would recommend that you might want to start with.

1. What Are Your Readers Searching For?

Darren: The number one tip is really considering your audience. This

almost goes without saying that you really want to put yourself into the

shoes of your readers as they surf by your blog. Ask yourself the question,

“What are the needs that they have? What do they need to buy around this

topic?”

I think it was Julianne who has a blog on scuba diving. She was talking

last week in this call, there is a need. You got to think about, "What are the

readers of her blog looking for as they surf by? Are they looking for just

tips on it or might they be interested in scuba diving gear, books on the

topic, tours that they could do, and holidays that they might want to go on

to scuba diving destinations?” You begin to think about what would the

readers of this blog be dreaming of doing ideally on this topic? Then go

searching for products that you could promote that relate to that.

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Andy: Just like we were aligning the niche with the content and the blog

and the Google ads. We want to align all of this with the affiliate program

products as well.

Darren: That is right. Really, one great way to check what people might

like on your blog is if you’ve got a statistics package associated with your

blog whether that is one of the free ones like Site Meter, or whether it is a

hosted AWStats. You can have the ability with that statistical package to

work out what people are finding your site after searching Google for.

I know on my digital camera blog that a lot of people search my site

looking for ‘digital camera tips.’ I see that constantly come up in my stats.

People are looking for that information. So I went looking, about a month

ago, for some affiliate products that talk about how to use digital cameras

and I’ve added them to my blog in the hot spot up in the top left hand

corner, as we talked about last week.

They are selling really well. I get seventeen dollars every time someone

buys one of those little ebooks on digital camera tips on how to use digital

cameras. I’ve checked out the products. They are good quality products

and so I recommend them. I found out, “What are people really looking at

my site for? What are they searching for?” Then I give them a product that

matches that need.

A lot of people get sucked into finding great products and then trying to

find readers for them. I tend to do it the other way. I got the readers and I

am going to find a product that matches them where they are at.

Andy: I think along with what you are talking about just then was that it

is not just always the tangible product but it can also be information that

so much online usage is either for finding out how to do something or how

to do it better or information around a certain topic.

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2. Genuine Product Recommendations

Darren: Yes, absolutely so that is the first one. The second one is genuine

product recommendation.

Andy: Yes this one I have found really works for me. This one really

works for me and I have found that the more heart-felt and sincere you

are with a product review, the more it is going to sell. I think it is really

fascinating that people, again with a blog, react to that really warm human

voice. The moment that is behind a recommendation or a review, I think

the better it is going to do.

Darren: That is right. I think to review a product and to point out how

you’ve used it, number one, and how you found it to be a benefit to you

but also some of the weaknesses of that product. Those endorsements

actually have a profound impact upon your readers.

The internet is full of sites that are just popping up products. You have to

wonder sometimes whether the person writing those reviews have even

used those products.

I did a review of Joel Comm’s ebook, which I think we linked to in those

last week’s notes, which is an ebook on AdSense. The review I give is

actually I conclude by saying that this is great for beginners but I wouldn’t

advise it for advanced users of AdSense.

People really responded well to that. I sold a lot of books through that

program because I’ve been really clear about who wouldn’t be good for

that book and that really also cuts down on the amount of call that you get

afterwards saying, “You recommended this really rubbishy product.”

I had one person saying that they didn’t find that book helpful because I

was really clear about who it was for upfront. So be genuine with your

links. It is really important.

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3. Link to Quality Products

Darren: Tying in with that is number three is: link to quality products. I

always test the products I link to if it’s a big ticket item like that. On my

digital camera site, I don’t test them all obviously but I give people the

opportunity to buy them there. If you are recommending a product, make

sure you test it first. I think that is really important.

4. Deep, Contextual Links

Darren: Number four is: contextual deep links work best. I’ve given you

an example there. If you click that, it will take you to another digital

camera site actually my competition. The guy in the UK, we’ve are quite

good mates actually but if you click on that example link in that post, it will

take you to a review that Mark did of the high speed photo smart eight

span seven camera.

What Mark has done there is he has written this genuine review. It has got

eight parts there, you’ll see at the top. If you scroll down a little bit, he

comes to a section called ‘price’. In that price section, he’s got some

affiliate links to Amazon.co.uk. and to Amazon.com. Amazon has a variety

of different affiliate programs for different countries and really what he

has done there is he’s linked to that specific camera in the middle of his

review. So it is a very relevant link. It is not just sitting on his side bar

somewhere. You see it on every page. It is relevant and it is deeply linked

into his site. He has gone the trouble of finding out the code for that

specific product. Those are the links that I find do best on Amazon and on

most affiliate programs.

You’ll see on the right hand side of his page there he’s got two banner

links, two sky scrapers to Amazon as well, one again to the dot-UK site

and one to the dot-com site. I would have a guess that they wouldn’t be

converting anywhere nearly as well as the individual links that he has got

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in posts just because they are random cameras that don’t really relate to

the camera of whatever page they are on. That is the way I do it.

So think about, “How can I deeply, relevantly, contextually link to

products in the midst of my content and not just in the side bars?”

Andy: Right. That probably also helps as people get to know you with

your site, they start to learn where the ads are, they get better at tuning it

out, and they are there for the content. Then as they are reading the

content, they stumble across a link that is an affiliate link but again, it is

still useful and important to that reviewer, that post, or that content.

Darren: That is right. That doesn’t mean that you can’t use banner ads or

you can’t use buttons or skyscrapers like that. I still do that but really I

only use those as fillers when I don’t have a better advertisement to put

into those positions.

5. Link Positioning

Darren: Number five is considering the position of your links. This taps

into what we were talking about last week with the positioning of AdSense

ads. That little heat map that we showed you last week, it is in the notes.

That is gold not only for AdSense but also for all affiliate programs. If you

go back to my site, digitalphotographyblog.com that we looked at last

week, you’ll know that the affiliated links are put on the top of the left of

my side bar. There is one there I’ve got ‘Digital Photography Secrets’ and

I’ve put a recommended note next to that. That is the hottest spot on my

site, at the moment, at that top left hand side bar. So that is where I’ve put

those high paying affiliate links. So the positioning of your ad is rather

important. Ask yourself the question, “Where are people looking when

they come to my site?”

Again, above comments, at the top of posts, those positions tend to do

pretty well.

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Andy: Darren, do you make a decision based on the commission from

affiliated programs versus how much you might make with the Google ad

depending on where you put stuff in the hottest parts of the page?

Darren: Yes, I tend to do that. I find the AdSense ads do very well inside

of the content as I showed last week. And the side bars, they don’t tend for

me on that side, at least to do as well in. The affiliate links, they seem to

do very well there. I found that most people on my site, a couple of

months ago, were clicking on that digital cameras deals link. That is how

people left my site the most. I thought that is the key position I am going

to put in some other things that could bring in some decent money there.

6. Traffic Levels

Darren: Number six is that traffic levels are very important. This goes

without saying. It is true for AdSense; it is true for all advertising. The

more people who come to your site, the more chance you’ve got of them

seeing and responding to the advertisements that you got there. I put it in

there because I find that a lot of people, when they get into affiliate

marketing, they get so obsessed with the links and so obsessed with the

products that they actually forget to build a community. I just want to

keep hammering this in. We talked a little bit about this last week. Don’t

become obsessed with the money side of your blog. Become obsessed with

the community and the content of your blog and you’ll find the other side

of things will, in time, look after itself a little bit.

7. Diversify Without Cluttering

Darren: Number seven is to diversify without the clutter. Don’t put all

your affiliate efforts into one basket. There are plenty of products out

there to link to. You don’t just need to work with [just] one. I find that

some bloggers become obsessed with a particular program and really no

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other opportunities as well. It may be that you actually are ignoring some

really great products out there.

8. Be Transparent

Darren: Be transparent. We’ve already talked a little bit about this but it

is really important, I think, to not fool your readers. Again, I see a lot of

people linking to affiliate programs in ways that they are almost trying to

suck people into buying them.

I don’t know if you’ve seen the Chitika review I did recently. It is a review

of an advertising program called Chitika. I am actually an affiliate for that

program so I make some money out of people getting involved with users

of that program put a disclaimer saying, “I am an affiliate, I do make some

money out of this but I also believe in the product.” I find people really

have responded well to that. They like that fact that I am being upfront

about it, that I do have an agenda behind it as well but that I am also

genuine about it.

I would recommend that you consider especially on big ticket items like

that where you are recommending something and not just putting up a

link to find a price or something along those lines. You actually say, “This

is an affiliate program. When you buy it, I will benefit from it as well.” So

be genuine in that as well. I think it is really important.

9. Avoid the Sleaze!

Darren: Related to that is number nine, is avoiding the sleaze. I put that

in there at the last minute last night just because I found a site in

searching for the affiliate programs links that really was incredibly sleazy

and incredibility almost manipulative to readers. I just want to emphasize

that again. You can go that way and probably make some good money but

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I’d much rather create a much genuine site. That is just in there as a little

bonus for people.

10. Mix In Other Revenue Streams

Darren: Number ten is combining with other revenue streams. As I said

last week with people becoming obsessed with AdSense and some people

become obsessed with affiliate programs, you want to mix it up a little bit.

Advertising programs and affiliate programs are not mutually exclusive.

You can run both on the one site. I actually find that they actually help one

another in a sense. You’ll find that some people will respond very well to

AdSense and they’ll click those ads. I don’t know why for some reason.

Other people respond much better to an affiliate program so actually go

with both. I think one of the listeners last week talked about how adding

extra outbound links to your site can actually help things sometimes. I

found that out to be true also. Don’t be scared of running both at once.

Andy: Yes. I think of it like when people will say with a stock portfolio

you don’t want to be in all one certain industry. You want to diversify the

income across the board.

Darren: That is right. If the worst thing happens and AdSense does fold

one day, I doubt it will but if it does then I know that I’ve got other income

streams coming in. But if for some reason they do banned me, I know that

there are other income streams there. So it is really important to do.

11. Track Results

Darren: Number eleven is to track your results. Most affiliate programs

have some statistics package associated with them. I know in Amazon,

they tell you what links are performing best. They track the products that

are coming into and looking on the site. So I know that a lot of people are

looking at a particular digital camera and that may make me go, “Ok, I’d

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like some more information on that camera.” I’ll highlight that post a little

bit more. It seems to be a hot product at the moment. Really, you want to

watch those stats.

One I’ve got there, I think, a link to MyBlogLog. Did I include that Andy?

Andy: Yes, it’s in there.

Darren: I started using that probably six or seven months ago. They have

a free version which tracks yesterday’s results, not today’s. They’ve got a

paid version which attracts a lot more results. I think it is twenty-five

dollars a year so it is not that expensive. That is twenty-five dollars per

blog. So if you are running multiple blogs, you multiply that by the

number of your blogs.

It tracks two things. It tracks the inbounds referrals. It tracks where

people are coming from to your site which isn’t really that amazing. The

great part about it is that it tracks where people are going when they leave

your site.

That is how I discovered that that digital camera deals link was so hot. I

discovered that more people left my site through that link than any others.

So for me that began a process of tracking my results and really those

links that I’ve got at the top left hand side bar there are the hottest links

on my site at the moment. I track how they are going with that. It is really

important to track those results. It is really a quite useful tool.

12. Searching for Affiliate Programs

Darren: Searching for affiliate programs. This can be a bit overwhelming

at times. I remember when I first got into affiliate marketing, doing a

search for affiliate programs and just being overwhelmed by the

thousands of them that are available. I would recommend that probably

the best place to start is to start on Google. Just do a Google search for

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your niche topic and the word, ‘affiliate program’ and just to see what

comes up. You’ll probably find that they’ll be at least one for each niche

that you are looking at.

There are a variety of affiliate program directories out there that

recommend programs. Just be careful of those. There are some of the

sleazy ones I was talking about. Most of those affiliate program directories

have affiliates’ links so they are selling something too but they can be

useful.

Andy: Yes, some of those are on the next page. I’ll just give a sleaze

warning.

Darren: Look at the footers of online stores. If you’ve got an online store

that you’ve found that relates to the products that you are talking about, a

lot them will have an affiliate link in the footer which will lead you to a

way of signing up to become an affiliate footer. If they don’t have one, and

if there is a product that you love that doesn’t have affiliate programs,

actually email the person behind that product and ask them to set an

affiliate program up for you.

Those Chitika ads that I’ve been talking about recently, I started talking to

the guy at Chitika a couple of months ago and started using their products

and just fell in love with it. It is making me very decent money so I though

to myself, “This is a great product.” I asked the guy at Chitika, “Do you

have an affiliate program?” They said, “No”. I said, “I think you need one

and I’d like to sell your product for you. If you have an affiliate program

then I’ll do that for you.” That suggestion that I gave them actually started

their affiliate program. I was the first one and I’ve been testing it for them

and it is going to go public in a couple of weeks.

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If you’ve got a product that you’re in love with, why not suggest that you

could sell it for them and then make a little bit of money on the side as

well?

13. Don’t Start Too Big

Darren: The last point there is don’t start too big. Start with a small

amount of affiliate programs. As I said, there are thousands of them out

there and one of the downsides of enrolling in too many programs at once

is that you end up with a very busy business. Each program has a

threshold for how much you need to earn from it before they’ll send you a

check. If you spread yourself too thin, you can never get any checks on

some of the programs.

So I’d choose wisely. Start with two or three programs maybe that you are

genuine about and really work on selling them rather than cluttering your

blog with thousands of links to different programs.

There are my tips. Have you got any to add?

Andy: I think, like you are saying, keep it diversified and spend time in

investigating to make sure again that it is align with the content, the topic,

and the niche. I really want to try out that MyBlogLog. It looks like it is a

really useful tool. Like you said, focus on building a community not

necessarily on massive, huge amounts of cash for the onset.

Darren: That is right. You want to build it over time. Another tip that I’d

give is affiliate links can go stale over time as your community of reader

comes, they see that link over the months it may be that you want to rotate

the affiliate programs that you use and find fresh ones. There are always

more products that are coming out that you can recommend.


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Examples of Affiliate Programs

Darren: Excellent. Shall we moved through the examples of, I think we

got the post out there called ‘Affiliate Program Examples’.

Andy: Yes.

Darren: The ones that I am familiar with and the ones that I have been

trying are some of those along at the bottom. Andy, those that are not in

there are ones I am looking forward to hearing about.

1. Amazon.com Associates and

2. Amazon.co.uk

Darren: Amazon.com, obviously I talked a little bit about already. The

beauty of Amazon and the reason that it is attractive to so many bloggers

is that the stretch of products that it has in its range. They have books,

electronics, jewelry, CDs, makeup, and virtually anything that you want.

They must have hundreds of thousands of products on there. So it is like

being involved in a hundred of different affiliate programs all through one

which I find actually quite attractive.

They have a reliable payment system. Their payment system is on a three-

monthly basis so that is a little bit of a downer in some ways as you can

sell a product and not get any payment for it for three or four months by

the time they send a check to you. Their system is reliable; they are not

going to disappear anytime soon, I would think. They have a different

variety of payment options including you can get paid in gift certificates or

checks. I think for the US customers, the publishers may have a direct

debit option.

They are fairly easy to use even I can use them. I am not a technical

person at all. They have a variety of linking tools. You can link in text links

but you can also use banners and buttons. They fairly are well regarded by

http://www.amazon.com/associates/

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your reader as well. Most people know the name Amazon and so they are

trusted there.

On the downside, their commissions can be a bit lower than some of the

other programs that you might find. I find that I am getting about five

percent payment. So if someone buys a digital camera, I get five percent of

the value of that camera. It is not as high as some of the programs that are

out there but it is reasonable.

It can be a little bit difficult to understand some of their stuff. They’ve got

this incentive bonus game. If you sell a certain amount of products, some

people find that a little bit difficult to understand and I just tend to let that

go in the background and just go, “That is nice.” And don’t actually go

looking into it that much.

Some of their buttons and banners can look a little bit dated. You can

change the color of their links but you can’t really change too much about

them so just keep that in mind. Some of the products they won’t ship

internationally. So if you’ve got a big Australian readership like I do on

some of my blogs, just be aware that Australians cannot buy digital

cameras through Amazon. That is a bit of a downside of Amazon.com.

Generally, I think, Amazon is a great place to start if you want to try

affiliate marketing for the first time. It will give you a little taste of it.

Likewise, they also have Amazon.co.uk. They also have a Japanese one, I

think and a Canadian one. So if your readers are from those countries, it

might be worth experimenting with those. Unfortunately they are all four

different separate programs and not integrated but much the same

features on them all.

https://associates.amazon.co.uk/gp/associates/network/reports/main.html/202-5998627-6629417

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3. ClickBank

Darren: Number three there is ClickBank. ClickBank is another affiliate

program. The problem with ClickBank is that it has got a bit of a dirty

reputation.

Andy: That is what I was going to say.

Darren: A lot of their products are very dirty and sleazy. You get an

ebook that promise the world and deliver nothing and costs an exurbanite

amounts of money. I’ve been sucked in once or twice.

Andy: Me too.

Darren: That is really unfortunate because they also have some really

good quality products on there as well. I do promote a number of their

products that Joel Comm’s book that I mentioned earlier, he uses

ClickBank. I was really disappointed when I saw that he used it just

because I knew it would be harder to sell but it is a quality book.

Some of the photography ones that I do are ClickBank books. I’ve checked

the books out and I know that the ones I’m recommending are reasonable;

they are useful but be very careful with the products that you choose there.

ClickBank is easy to use. This is as simple is putting your affiliate name

into the code that they give you. The commissions on the upside are very

good. Some of them pay out as much as seventy percent of the value of the

product. I’ve made commissions of up to seventy dollars on some of the

products that I recommended from there which is a nice injection. If you

sell one or two of those a day, you’ll do OK.

On the downside, as I said, some of their products are quite cheap and

nasty and a lot of get rich schemes, dirty ebooks. Their affiliate interface is

very basic. I am just constantly surprised by really how poor their

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reporting system is and how trying to find affiliate programs to

recommend. The back end is pretty average. There are very few built in

options for creating automatic links.

One of the good things about Amazon is that you can get plugins for blogs

software like WordPress that actually help you to automate putting the

links your Amazon products in but nothing like that as far as I can see

with ClickBank.

Do you have any other experience with it Andy?

Andy: No I bought some of those hypey ebooks in my earlier internet

days thinking that I too can make millions of dollars from min-sites so I

was just going to come in with that.

Darren: You got to be a bit careful with it as I said. If you find a good

program there, it can actually be really beneficial. I think this last month, I

made about twelve hundred dollars through it just by recommending five

products that I actually do recommend on that system. It does pretty well.

Any: Yes, if you go to ClickBank and you click on ‘buy products’ it will

show you a catalogue. You can start looking at where you got nine main

categories. You can see where you might be able to find products that

match your particular niche.

Darren: That is right. I think they rank their products in orders of how

many they sell which might be an indication of merits of the products a

little bit. You’ll still want to check them out. It may give you an indication

of what is going well on other sites which might give you an indication on

how good they are.

Andy: And it is entertaining just to see what some of these products are.

You know, stuff on acne, stuff on seducing women, it is entertaining.

Darren: Yes. There are some good information products there as well.

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4. Linkshare

Darren: Number four is LinkShare and I’ve given you a link to that.

LinkShare is a program and I haven’t used it a lot but the thing about

LinkShare is that they have hundreds if not thousands of affiliate

programs within the one. So you sign up as an affiliate at LinkShare but

you have access to hundreds of other affiliate programs all through their

system.

So it is a way of integrating affiliate programs like iTunes has an affiliate

program through LinkShare, Dell has one; Disney has one; Footlocker has

one; so really LinkShare is good at integrated systems that really pulls

together a huge variety of different affiliate programs.

I’ve only really had moderate success with it. Maybe a hundred dollars a

month or something like that. So in comparison with Amazon and other

affiliate programs it is not much. If you got some products that related to

their programs, it is pretty easy to use and it might be worth checking out.

5. Commission Junction

Darren: Similarly, Commission Junction is a very well known one. It is

pretty much the same deal as LinkShare. It is like an affiliate program

mega store which offers thousands of different affiliate programs that you

can get involved with. Commission Junction and LinkShare, they are like

the middle man between you and the affiliate program companies that

have products to sell there. It is worth experimenting. A lot of people use

them very well.

When I did a survey on Problogger, probably a couple of months ago now,

I found that some people loved these two, LinkShare and Commission

Junction and some people just haven’t made a cent from them.

http://linkshare.com/

http://cj.com/

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I think it is probably like anything how well you learn how to use the

products. I would be interested when we open up for question if other

people have used LinkShare and Commission Junction.

6. All Posters

Darren: All Posters, I’ve included there is a bit of a niche affiliated

program. I know there are a couple of celebrity bloggers out there. If

you’ve got a blog on sport stars or music stars, they sell posters. You’ll find

that they’ve got thousands and thousands of posters there. It is just

another program I was just looking the other day. A few of you out there

have celebrity ones. It may be something for you to explore.

7. DMG

DGM. That is an Australian one. I know there are a few Aussies on the

line. It is very hard to find Australian things. I won’t talk about it too

much. I’ve had moderate success with it.

8. Trade Doubler and

9. Clix Galore

Darren: Try Trade Doubler, it is a European one.

Clix Galore is another Aussie one. So really, they are the ones that I’ve

experimented with over the years but to be honest, Amazon is probably

the one and ClickBank is the other two that I get most benefit from.

Have you got some other links Andy?

Andy: Yes, I added some affiliate program directories. Again, some of

these tend to be on a little hypey side and I am guessing that a lot of the

links if you click to get more information, they might be a second to get

your commission to get a referral type thing.

http://allposters.com/

http://www.dgmaustralia.com/

http://www.tradedoubler.com/

https://www.clixgalore.com.au/

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I know that Refer-It, which is at refer-it.com has been out since 1997 or so.

So I really know that this site has been out for a really long time.

The other three were the ones I found searching for the different

directories for the most popular affiliate program directories. The

Commission Junction, I’ve had success with, Amazon.com, I’ve had

success with.

I think if you start with the big ones that are going to allow you to manage

multiple niches with a large share products. I try to keep in mind that I am

going to have to go and check the stats on these different systems at least

once a week, maybe every two weeks to see how I am doing. If I have a

handful of those to check into, the better instead of having this affiliate for

this niche for this topic on this blog and having to check that and having

dozens and dozens of sites to check into.

Darren: I’d be really interested to hear about what other people have

tried. I know there are a few experienced affiliate marketer in the call live

tonight. If you want to leave a comment on that post of your suggestions,

that would be great. We might open it up now for questions if you’ve also

got suggestion of another affiliate program that has worked well or hasn’t

worked well for you, I’d love to hear about that too.

So we want to open up for questions.

Tip: Using Forwarding Pages to Fix Expired Affiliate

Links

Brad: Hi Darren, this is Brad and I’ve got a quick tip if that is ok.

Darren: Sure.

Brad: One thing I was going to say was I found that it is usually better to

create a static HTML page that I am going to imbed my affiliate link into

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and then have it redirect to the actual URL. The reason for that is if I’m

recommending that product and something happens later on and the guy

ends up becoming a problem, I wouldn’t recommend it anymore. Then I

can then just change that one file on my server and then redirect it to a

different affiliate. Does that make sense? Instead of it being on the search

engine or ebooks or a lot of other places as a hard coded long affiliate link,

I could just change it from one little place.

Andy: So you are using the meta tag refresh?

Brad: You can either use that or a JavaScript redirect but the meta tag

refresh is probably better.

Andy: Gotcha.

Darren: So Brad, that is something I know a number of what I would call

hard core affiliate marketers. That is what they do all the time. It is

something that I’ve often thought about but never got around to. That is a

great tip. Any other questions or suggestions?

ClickBank’s Reputation

Connie: This is Connie.

Darren: Hi Connie.

Connie: Hi, I have a question. I was concerned by your comments about

ClickBank because I was referred to them. I am just concern by what you

guys were saying that you found an ebook that it had actually had come

from there, I mean, that they were selling it there.

Darren: Sorry, I missed half of that in the middle there from the beep.

Connie: You just seem to state some mixed feelings about ClickBank. I

was concerned because on the one hand your are saying that it has made

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you money but you were concerned about selling something that was on

that site because you were concerned about the quality of the items there

so I’m a little unclear whether you are recommending it or not.

Darren: I would recommend it only on products that you’ve read and

trust yourself which is I would say for all affiliate programs but especially

on ClickBank. With people who know ClickBank products, some of them

will have a negative reaction as soon as they see you are linking to a

ClickBank program. So you’ve got an uphill battle there with some people

is really what I am trying to say.

If it is a quality product and you recommend it then by all means sell it

and promote it but just be aware that there are some negative views of

some of their products out there which may work against other products

that is in their system.

I am giving you mixed signals but just be careful and be aware of the

reputation that some of their products have.

Connie: My other concern about it is that I actually was thinking of

selling something there myself, so you are saying that by sending people

there, they are going to be skeptical of my product being on that site.

Darren: That is right. Having said that, some of the products that I

recommend do very well there. So I guess it is about weighing up the pros

and cons. From what I know, some people who sell their products there, I

can give you their contact if you like, it is a fairly easy system to use from

their end and that is why they’ve gone there. But they had to weigh up the

pros and cons of that. If you email me, I would be more than happy to give

you their email addresses so you can chat to them about how it works for

them.

Participant: Ok. Thank you.

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Andy: Other questions?

Maryam: Darren, this is Maryam, can I make a comment?

Darren: Sure.

Maryam: If you have a shopping cart, you can sell eproducts through

your shopping cart and most shopping carts do have an eproduct sales

module that you can upgrade to and also an affiliate program module of

your own. If that helps.

Darren: Yes, I think that does helps. Andy, you’ve done that.

Andy: It is a real toughie when you’ve got maybe one or two products and

you are just starting out because, like my shopping cart, without the

affiliate program, it is about forty bucks a month but with the affiliate

program, it is eighty bucks a month. I wasn’t able to justify that for many

months so unless you’ve got that volume, it is going to be a ramp up trying

to get that all set up. So I understand, it is a tough issue when you got

maybe one or two products initially if it is worth the expense at the outlet

to get that all set up.

Darren: That is right. That is something I am struggling through at the

moment too because I got something I want to sell. Maybe it is just better

for me to just go through ClickBank for the first time around and then

withdrew it later. I don’t know. That is some of the questions that I am

asking as well. Maybe you need to partner up with someone else who’s got

a shopping cart already.

Andy: Also the reason I went ahead and spent the money to have the

affiliate program even though it wasn’t high volume enough to really

justify the expense was I didn’t want to have people have to sign up again

if I changed providers.

Darren: Yes, that is true.

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Andy: So if you are thinking long term, long range, you might consider

using an ecommerce system that you have more control over and that

people are signing up to be a part of your program rather than a general

one at ClickBank. Then again, there are so many hairs to split. It is totally

a tough argument.

Chitika eMiniMalls Q & A

Darren: Any other questions? Alright. We’ve got about ten minutes left

Andy? What if I just talk a little bit about the Chitika Ad. Would that fit in

now?

Andy: Yes, I think they are slick. I got to figure out how to use them on

something soon because I think they are really slick.

Darren: That is right. I’ve put up a link to it on the front page of the Six

Figure Blogging ecampus which is just a link to a review I did of them. I

thought it would be interesting just to give you a few extra tips that I am

finding in my use of them. They are doing very well there. For me, they’ve

gone above AdSense as my top earner which I am really excited about. I

am in the affiliate program but you don’t have to sign up through me. I am

more than happy if you go your own way with that.

The first tip I’d give is if you are going to use them with AdSense on the

same page, you need to trigger them to be known contextual. You cannot

run them in contextual modem on the same page as AdSense or you’ll get

banned from AdSense. So be careful about that.

I’ve put some code on my review and my comment of how to do that. You

just need to add a little bit of code to it. In positioning them, I would say

the same principles apply to AdSense. The heat map that we looked at last

week is really important. So position them where people will look on your

site. That may mean that you need to put them either in place of AdSense

code or put them above or below it. You might need to make some

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decisions there about how many ads you want on your page. I find on

most on my blogs, I am putting one in the side bar and on targeting that

on particular keywords that relate to the niche that I am talking about.

Then I put one, at least maybe two in the contents. I am putting one above

comments below a post and that seems to be converting quite well.

Sometimes, I am putting one at the top of the post also.

Just experiment with that. Put them inside posts if you can. There is a

plug in now for WordPress users to help you to do that. You can put them

in the middle of a post and position it. Get rid of the borders on it. Use the

same principle as AdSense. You want to blend them into your site a little

bit. Get rid of the borders. Use the same link colors as other links on your

site.

One thing that you can do is to trigger the ads with titles of your posts. So

on WordPress and on Google type, the way you get a title on your page,

you’ll see in your template, there is a little code, a title tag. You can

actually trigger your posts with that which seems to work quite well.

I’ve also included in that review some code to rotate ads through different

products so you can actually target ten different products and have each

different time someone comes to you site, you have them see a different

product which will help with ad blindness. You can have multiple ads per

site. I think I’ve already mentioned that.

They haven’t yet implemented channels onto Chitika but they’ll do that in

the next few weeks I am told. This will really help a lot in targeting specific

key products that will give you. I guess though the channels you got to

track which products they are paying and how much. That will be really

useful information and introduction to how to get Chitika ads up on your

site and working well.

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They do work very well on product sites. I know some of you have non-

product sites but product sites, they’ll do very well. Virtually anything you

find on Amazon.com you’ll be able to get ads for it because Amazon are

one of the things that they use.

I know a number of you have fashion blogs. The Chitika eMiniMalls

apparently work quite well on fashion sites. The Manolo shoe blogger, he

uses Chitika eMiniMalls and I think they are right up there for him as well

with AdSense earnings.

Having said that, some of you will know the blog Ensight,

www.ensight.org. That is Jeremy Wright’s blog. He is using them. His blog

is not a product blog at all. It is a blog about blogging and apparently, he is

doing very well out of them. From what I can tell, he has taken AdSense

completely off his site because the mini malls are going so well.

Even if you haven’t got a product blog, it might be worth checking out

Chitika’s eMiniMalls.

Andy: You guys are also using that on the B5 network right?

Darren: Yes, we are not using them on every blog on B5 yet but

specifically on the product related ones definitely. So anything to do with

fashion or gadgets, they’ll be fit heavily there probably even more so than

AdSense.

Participant: I have a question.

Darren: Sure.

Participant: I am wondering how do you find out what products they

have available?

Darren: On the Chitika?

http://www.ensight.org/

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Participant: Yes.

Darren: It is trial and error really at this stage. I think you’ll find, and

this is the inside word, not an official inside word but I’m pretty sure that

if you find it on Amazon you should find it in Chitika.

Participant: Ok.

Darren: So that would be a good starting place but put an ad up for a

target keyword and if they got it in their system, it will come up straight

away. That is probably the only real way to test it.

Participant: Ok. Thanks.

Darren: Another hot tip is if you go to Amazon’s top selling products

pages, so you’ll see the digital cameras that Amazon has that top selling

digital camera pages. What I’ve heard, and this isn’t official either but they

are the top paying Chitika ads for that category. So if you include the top

one for the top digital camera top selling digital camera in Amazon, that

has more of a chance of paying more than any other camera. That goes for

different categories as well. Just don’t tell anyone that I’ve told you that.

This is between you and me and the other eighty people in the call.

Andy: Was there a question out there?

Participant: Darren, I have one. With the Chitika ads, if you have

multiple sites do you have to have multiple accounts with them or can you

do it off one master account?

Darren: You can do it all from one master account. The only problem

they are having is with some of bigger publishers, if an earning is ten

thousand dollars a month, which most of us aren’t going to struggle with

but if you do, I think you’ll get some problems with PayPal because they

can’t make payments that big. You can manage multiple sites easily and

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when they bring in the channels, that will help that a lot because you’ll be

able to track which sites are well for you.

Participant: Terrific, thank you.

Darren: No problem.

Andy: Alright, let’s go into the fieldwork for this coming week which is

pretty simple. It is about going through the different affiliate programs

and the directories that we’ve talked about and start to find products and

services that align with the niches of your particular blogs as well as

maybe even finding products that don’t yet have affiliate programs and

seeing if they would be interested in putting one together.

Darren: That is right. I think that the best way, as with everything is to

just do it and experiment and see what works for you and you’ll find that

for some strange reason some programs just don’t work on some blogs but

others do very well. I would be interested to see how it goes this week.

Andy: Great and next week we are going to be talking about metrics and

content and how to really start to figure out exactly where the traffic is

coming, where it is going, and how to have an unending stream of content

of things to write about.

Darren: Yes, which is the key really isn’t it?

Andy: Alright, there is one last call for questions? Alright folks, we will

talk to you next week and feel free to leave us comments or shoot us

emails with questions you got. Thank you everybody.

Darren: Thank you.

Andy: Bye.

Darren: Bye.

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Six Figure Blogging Call 4 Worksheets Evaluating Affilliate Programs

Evaluation Criteria

Blog 1: Blog 2: Blog 3:

What products or services are readers looking for on my blog?

What affiliate programs might offer products and or services related to my blog topic? Hint: search on the product or service name followed by the words affiliate or affiliate program

What other revenue streams might I consider adding to my blog?

How will I communicate to my readers that these are affiliate links?

Which of my affiliate links will be located in different areas of my blog? Which key link will be in the best “hot spot”?

Which products or services would be great to feature on my blog but which

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don’t have an affiliate program? Hint: There might be an opportunity to create a partnership.

What tool am I going to use to track my results? (i.e. MyBlogLog)


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