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Monday, 27th June 2011 How do I fi
@ColinTGraham Hello eMon Jun 27 19:30:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@stefras#mathchat on nMon Jun 27 19:31:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham If you anear the start of the tweet. You mMon Jun 27 19:32:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 19:32:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Today'sproblems that grab student attentiMon Jun 27 19:32:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrweekend for this revisit... ;-) #matMon Jun 27 19:33:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahagates. #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:34:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc#mathchat Enpotential to complete and purposeMon Jun 27 19:34:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham OK, on"wow!" factor of grabbing attentioMon Jun 27 19:35:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@deltafun? Crosswords aren't exactly "pMon Jun 27 19:36:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Engagement ha
pay more attention to activity thanMon Jun 27 19:37:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
eryone, welcome to today's (well-publici5429803456544769 - #1
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re RTing or must tweet over 140 characty want to unprotect tweets too...
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Hi Colin. Great day for a #mathchat5430338012196864 - #7
topic follows up last time's... "How do I fon?" #mathchat5430358799159296 - #8
s Hi Shawn. Looks like you've been chachat5430588902866944 - #9
Have I? Hmm. Not really. But raring to
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gaging learners requires problems that tfor lives.5430845158072320 - #11
thing clear from last time was we needdoesn't overpower #mathchat
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dc Relevance... maybe. What's wrongrpose for lives" for example. #mathchat
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@ColinTGraham Beforeattention'? Are they predictable?Mon Jun 27 19:38:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahadoing. But engaging, sustaining inMon Jun 27 19:38:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaimaginations. Their curiosity. TheiMon Jun 27 19:39:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@dmarain In th90 min. #mathed#mathchat#Mat
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@ColinTGraham Are weI could do?" when we talk about bMon Jun 27 19:40:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@ColinTGrahnot a real-life-math purist. #mathcMon Jun 27 19:40:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 19:40:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahastudents/people? #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:41:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Hmm. I see Twigoing to be bumpy.Mon Jun 27 19:42:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@deltainteresting or engaging for all theMon Jun 27 19:42:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaengage more students. #mathchaMon Jun 27 19:42:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Did we agree oMon Jun 27 19:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
he problems... What kinds of thing do yomathchat5431769050001408 - #16
I agree. Relevance does not have to bterest. #mathchat5431794383593473 - #17
I think it depends on the student. Theirr pride. #mathchat5432079243952128 - #18
middle of #mathchat. Join us and we'llh
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looking for: "How do you do that?" followeginning engagement? #mathchat5432286207676416 - #22
am Puzzles can have purpose. Even 'strhat5432357460508672 - #23
I think so. #mathchat5432370060210176 - #24
Also we need to start withyour questio
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ter is slow today. Probably due to #iste1
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dc We cannot assume, either, that puzzs... #mathchat
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But a problem, a challenge, to start the
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what engages students yet? #mathchat5433091870568448 - #29
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u think 'grab student
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@Sundayteatime#mathcthat is deceptively tough.Mon Jun 27 19:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras I like those. RTA seemingly easy puzzle that is dMon Jun 27 19:43:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@dmarain Calling a problfun to try. This has been my expeMon Jun 27 19:43:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@ColinTGrahmay not engage someone else. M
Mon Jun 27 19:44:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@wilderlab See Paul Locseeming forced and contrived #mMon Jun 27 19:44:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham I oftenquick diversion of attention. EngaMon Jun 27 19:44:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@dmarain Nestproblems also works. #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:44:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@wilderlab Thaturn on. #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:45:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@delta
the "How do I find... " part of the tMon Jun 27 19:46:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@dmarproblem doing..." but it has to beMon Jun 27 19:47:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs Maybe you canMon Jun 27 19:47:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc#mathchat Thmathematical enthusiasm.Mon Jun 27 19:47:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
hat something really easy to get into. A
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@Sundayteatime: #mathchat somethingceptively tough.5433183868424192 - #31
em a "puzzle" is less threatening and it sience. #mathchat5433189748850688 - #32
am Which goes to @stefras question: wy purpose probably isn't yours. #mathch
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khart's thoughts on math and relevancethchat
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ompare this to "Look at that!" Reaction iement is prolonged #mathchat5433410679615488 - #35
ing problems or stories from which stude
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t is a problem, isn't it? Engaging without
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dc @stefras Exactly, and what no-one
pic. Should "I" do it? #mathchat5433798304595970 - #38
ain You can set it up as a personal problgenuine 'teaser' for you #mathchat
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teach students how to be engaged? #m5434129977581568 - #40
e problem can be something I am interes
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tion? (follow-up discussion)
eemingly easy puzzle
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@stefras By nesting probbreak code, pose prob, solve #mMon Jun 27 19:47:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@wilderlab Yes... I haveproblem, engaging without contrivMon Jun 27 19:48:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@Janshs How?Mon Jun 27 19:48:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@druinok Engagement -wonder "what if" - (thinking of #anMon Jun 27 19:48:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs RT @delta_dc:I can model mathematical enthusiMon Jun 27 19:48:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Sundmethod to work it out or a quick, "Mon Jun 27 19:48:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@delta_dc Modempowering for students. #mathcMon Jun 27 19:49:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@wildedetectors in relation to what is 'reMon Jun 27 19:49:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@stefras seeMon Jun 27 19:49:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath Yes, sup?" @Janshs Maybe can teachMon Jun 27 19:50:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@stefras and hearly on #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:50:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@druinok I thinif challenges. #anyqs#wcydwt#Mon Jun 27 19:50:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
lem, eg discrete math problem (liar problthchat5434161355161601 - #42
eally been thinking a great deal about iting. #mathchat5434252702908416 - #43
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something that makes them go "Hmmm"yqs or #wcydwt) - #mathchat5434329467060225 - #45
#mathchat The problem can be somethiasm.5434371376558081 - #46
ayteatime Yes. Or a puzzle which has a lhinker's", method... #mathchat5434387797245952 - #47
elling enthusiasm as well as method of sat
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rlab Teenagers especially tend to havel' and what is real... #mathchat5434575907602432 - #49
delta_dc last tweet about modelling ent5434622468558848 - #50
mething like: "Is there something you fetudents how to be engaged? #mathchat5434735265976320 - #51
ow else? It's a Big Question: I think enth
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what if is more powerful than hm. Hmmathchat5434834943614976 - #53
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em) which is coded,
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@ColinTGraham@Jansseem engaged and what it is that'Mon Jun 27 19:50:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahawhich changes result and activity.Mon Jun 27 19:51:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@republicofmaMon Jun 27 19:51:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathmathematically. That's engaging IMon Jun 27 19:51:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 19:52:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahawhat it is that's engaging them #mMon Jun 27 19:52:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@AshleyWalther I try to t
to DO something to get the info inMon Jun 27 19:52:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@druinnatural 'mathy' questions. "How diMon Jun 27 19:52:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@republicofma#mathchatMon Jun 27 19:52:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@druinok@stefras agreengagement - I need to wonder aMon Jun 27 19:53:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@wilderlab Again, I think@ColinTGraham: relation to whatMon Jun 27 19:53:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@republicofmameant really about being engageMon Jun 27 19:54:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
s Can you teach engagement? Hmm...s engaging them may be a start #mathch5434930292731904 - #54
Or missing information, so students arAll unique. #mathchat5435017089658881 - #55
h yes a little like coaching? #mathchat5435064149741568 - #56
hat @jamestanton works to help studenMO. We can always dig a little deeper.5435096324247553 - #57
hat @janshs Yes, more like coaching th5435268546560000 - #58
A masters thesis there. observing wheathchat5435438571069441 - #59
urn my lessons into "discovery" type les
stead of just listen #mathchat5435454152904704 - #60
k I think #anyqs#wcydwt are more clead you do that?" works too. #mathchat5435466685497344 - #61
h so do we coach life skills and teach m
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d, but both spark the intellectual curiousout the world around me. #mathchat5435591176622080 - #63
of Lockhart and doing math for math's sis 'real' #mathchat5435601444274178 - #64
h @jamestanton thinking mathematicall/teaching #mathchat5435765315743744 - #65
tion? (follow-up discussion)
bserving when Ssat
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@ColinTGraham@reputowards the prevention of the "FinMon Jun 27 19:54:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathin investigating their own problemMon Jun 27 19:54:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs RT @wilderlab:@ColinTGraham: relation to whatMon Jun 27 19:54:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@republicofmatteaching. So how do we compel t
Mon Jun 27 19:54:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@republicofmastart? #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:55:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Ashlthink. The question is how/whereMon Jun 27 19:55:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @ColinTGrif the teacher asks the student. OrMon Jun 27 19:56:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathfinished! G. H. Hardy was of a siMon Jun 27 19:56:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@reflectivemaths I find
don't know how to capitalize on thMon Jun 27 19:56:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@Janshs I thinproblem solving. Like grammar duMon Jun 27 19:56:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@AshleyWalther .@Colikids pretty engaged & motivated tMon Jun 27 19:57:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrbeing a "good thing". Are we clea
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
licofmath I think @jamestanton's approaished!" response too. #mathchat5435864964018176 - #66
hat @janshs I think a trick is to progress, after discussion & refinement.5435871708450817 - #67
Again, I think of Lockhart and doing matis 'real' #mathchat5435875860824066 - #68
h That is our job now, isn't it? Coaching/em this way? #mathchat
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h just to be a pest: how long does that t
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yWalther That's what most of us are tryio we find the "compulsion"? #mathchat
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ham: @druinok "How did you do that?"how did he do that?#mathchat5436278849540096 - #72
hat @ColinTGraham Yes. With @jamesilar mind - always another mountain pea5436303730147328 - #73
y male students are engaged in the ide
at #mathchat5436357970886656 - #75
math skills should be taught as studentring writing. #mathchat5436450702757888 - #76
TGraham oh I see...I think asking goodfind the ans on their own #mathchat
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s Well we quite blithely bandy words likewhat it is? #mathchat
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Mon Jun 27 19:57:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 19:57:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs @EmergentMin Mathematics http://t.co/6aXPvAMon Jun 27 19:57:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@informed_edu Oh no, jMon Jun 27 19:57:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 19:58:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@wildesoccer playing (which for me is toMon Jun 27 19:59:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@republicofmatrelearn, new concepts, new skills,Mon Jun 27 19:59:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@republicofmaMon Jun 27 19:59:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathdefined. Other uses may not be.Mon Jun 27 19:59:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 20:00:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@informed_edMon Jun 27 20:00:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@Janshs I thinadvanced? If treat as natural nextMon Jun 27 20:00:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Ashlissue too. Some problems/puzzleMon Jun 27 20:00:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@AshleyWalther@refleengage about 1/3 of the class atMon Jun 27 20:00:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
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hat @janshs It takes forever! So start e5436607670403073 - #79
th: Things that are Good: A Problem Bay #mathchat5436668710092800 - #80
st realised I've missed #mathchat!5436704751755264 - #81
hat @informed_edu There's still an hou5436873161453569 - #82
rlab I compare my perseverance with cerally a waste of space-time). #mathchat5437003759489025 - #83
h So discussion, feeback, rethink, reworrelevant to adulthood #mathchat5437027272757248 - #84
h so maths teacher ed needed then? #5437088723513344 - #85
hat @ColinTGraham William & Kate's e
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hat @janshs I would say so ( math teac5437320211333120 - #87
we are still here #mathchat5437327362637824 - #88
the sooner the better. Why wait? Whystep, any difficulty do #mathchat5437328218263552 - #89
yWalther Maybe the " find the ans on thmay work better w/ collabrtn #mathchat
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tivemaths problem is they don't all like ttime when you pick one :/#mathchat
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@ColinTGrahamMy poin@republicofmath:#mathchat Willibe.Mon Jun 27 20:01:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@AshleyWalthMon Jun 27 20:01:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs Sorry distracteMon Jun 27 20:01:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@[email protected] Jun 27 20:02:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc#mathchat Ellirole teachers play in noticing & naMon Jun 27 20:02:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:02:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@AshleyWalther .@Coli
the teacher telling them....collaborMon Jun 27 20:02:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs @mathhombrtheir engagement. ah I like!Mon Jun 27 20:02:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@informed_edMon Jun 27 20:02:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Jansthinking? It does for me! I'd like toMon Jun 27 20:02:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 20:03:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@reflecgames... #mathchat
Mon Jun 27 20:03:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
t... do we each know what we mean? Rm & Kate's engagement was well define
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r So now we have to identify "good ques5437662865002496 - #93
from #mathchat by fox cub running acr5437706104086528 - #94
#mathchat definitely worth teaching stu.
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n Oliver Keene has book coming out in fming things like enthusiasm.5437773770788864 - #97
No. What is engagement really, practic5437789247782912 - #98
TGraham yea I guess I meant "on their
ation btwn students is good #mathchat5437792435441664 - #99
: @Janshs #mathchat definitely worth te
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Just starting #mathchat5437912598056960 - #101
s And does thinking mathematically diffget Ss doing the latter! #mathchat5437935951941632 - #102
hat @ColinTGraham I don't even know5438006504337408 - #103
tivemaths Maybe get them to design an
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tion? (follow-up discussion)
d. Other uses may not
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ss my lawn!
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@mathhombre#mathchrich, sortable problems. SortableMon Jun 27 20:03:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Only th@informed_edu: Oh no, just realiMon Jun 27 20:03:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:04:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@ColinTGrahathinking would be goodMon Jun 27 20:04:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@AshleyWalthdifferent outcomes. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:04:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchcontext? Student posed prob.s goMon Jun 27 20:04:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Jansconference... ;-) #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:04:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathlooking out window for extended tiMon Jun 27 20:04:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs RT @delta_dc:the important role teachers play inMon Jun 27 20:05:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @Janshs: Slawn! Now that is engagement!Mon Jun 27 20:05:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchreq'd standardsMon Jun 27 20:05:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Topic rattention?" #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:05:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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t wish there were more resources like hty content and challenge5438127530967040 - #105
first 30 mins, still an hour to go on Moned I've missed #mathchat!5438219046486018 - #106
By find on own, find without teacher ha5438271089414144 - #107
phew! Tricky #mathchat sometimes ju
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r Multiple games. Different styles. Differ
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t has anyone brought up @ddmeyer's #far towards engagement5438477377863680 - #110
s That was what I was presenting about
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hat Think I know when there's disengagme, excessive yawning, asleep, ...5438496352911360 - #112
#mathchat Ellin Oliver Keene has booknoticing & naming thing ...
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orry distracted from #mathchat by fox cu
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t then teacher's challenge is to find situa
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minder... "How do I find compelling prob
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tion? (follow-up discussion)
p://t.co/u4beJeQ for
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@stefras@mathhombreMon Jun 27 20:05:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc#mathchat I'v
engagement & brainstorm ways tMon Jun 27 20:06:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@erg0dic RT @mathhomhttp://t.co/u4beJeQ for rich, sortaMon Jun 27 20:06:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchtrained for obedience. Makes it hMon Jun 27 20:06:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs @republicofmoff-task, looking out window .... exMon Jun 27 20:06:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathHave worked on it, with limited suMon Jun 27 20:07:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahato still compel them to do so. So aMon Jun 27 20:07:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@informed_edu I tried swere shocked how much tax peoMon Jun 27 20:08:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham I equatme, anyway RT @republicofmath:Mon Jun 27 20:08:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:08:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@Janshs Ah buMon Jun 27 20:08:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@AshleyWalther .@stefr
using the idea of geometric probaMon Jun 27 20:08:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
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had learners define engagement, monit
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hat @ColinTGraham Personally, I find tcess (http://t.co/XSXtW1F)
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me income tax problems with some kidsle pay! #mathchat5439257296121856 - #125
engagement to Cskszentmihlyi's con#mathchat I don't even know what i me
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@Janshs@stefras maybMon Jun 27 20:09:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@Janshs RT @stefras:Mon Jun 27 20:09:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @mathhomwill bring up req'd standards > witMon Jun 27 20:10:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrhelp. I prefer working independenMon Jun 27 20:10:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:10:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @mathhomdisempowered; trained for obedieMon Jun 27 20:11:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@stefras @reanything of meaning. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:11:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefroffer inroads to game-making, aniMon Jun 27 20:11:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@republicofmath#mathengaging problems, for some stuMon Jun 27 20:11:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchwork everyday. Led to greater enMon Jun 27 20:11:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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s Doing something "on your own" impliely as a goal in this case. #mathchat5439812852645888 - #134
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@EmergentMath Probleeducational hoarder http://t.co/eAMon Jun 27 20:11:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@mathonto independent discovery of thiMon Jun 27 20:12:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@mathhombr#wcydwt - why should teachers hMon Jun 27 20:12:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchmore than 1/2 the battle. Then pr
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@Janshs Perhaps like soMon Jun 27 20:12:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Janshttp://bit.ly/iDSKZZ I will write a blMon Jun 27 20:13:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras @ColinTGrahabut others wher collaboration is bMon Jun 27 20:13:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchlearn these things that are req'd?'Mon Jun 27 20:13:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@wilderlab Usually, I just@ColinTGraham: "How do I find cMon Jun 27 20:13:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@EmergentMath I'll say tsources. Blogs, twitter, youtube, sMon Jun 27 20:14:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham .@Ashlthe problems/questions to design,Mon Jun 27 20:14:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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ombre So we can do the finding at firstgs to investigate? #mathchat5440360867831808 - #143
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t often think if we give the stu.s opp to bblems are a bonus.
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his, we've never had more access to intecreencaptures, etc. #mathchat5440908534874113 - #153
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@stefras@republicofmatwhat haven't we defined yet? usuMon Jun 27 20:15:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchto make sense, see patterns.Mon Jun 27 20:15:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrwhere to ask for help, if needed,Mon Jun 27 20:15:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc#mathchat Lethese areas. How will you do it?
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@mathhombre#mathchdid mathematicians invent this stuMon Jun 27 20:16:12 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@EmergentMatthat what compels? #mathchat#eMon Jun 27 20:16:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@chrislehmann RT @ediagnose myself as an educationMon Jun 27 20:16:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchcan't be put side by side.Mon Jun 27 20:17:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@mathhombreMon Jun 27 20:17:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@deltanegative affect = me & soccer... iMon Jun 27 20:17:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchdifferent rooms, or one at a time.Mon Jun 27 20:18:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Jansthings which are so obviously "noMon Jun 27 20:19:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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dc @stefras @republicofmath Disengadisinterested vs uninterested #mathcha
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t Then give students the problem of com
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@mathhombre@stefraswith, but do feel free to add to theiMon Jun 27 20:20:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Emerthough, but end up 'dying a death'Mon Jun 27 20:20:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaThat is also part of problem solvin
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@mathhombre@stefrassolved all these quad.s - what is tMon Jun 27 20:21:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrproblems need to be "compelling"Mon Jun 27 20:21:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre@ColinTbombs to me it means it should hMon Jun 27 20:22:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@deltashow/prove/demonstration/explaiMon Jun 27 20:22:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@ColinTGraham@mathimportant? Is that the 'attention grMon Jun 27 20:23:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@ColinTGrahkidding. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:23:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@delta_dc@ColinTGrahconnection to prior experience/suMon Jun 27 20:25:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@ColinTGraham@deltaare discussing is motivation to goMon Jun 27 20:26:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@repuGary!Mon Jun 27 20:26:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre@ColinTregular basis, stu.s will learn to atMon Jun 27 20:27:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@park_star@delta_dc I lwho really have no idea where toMon Jun 27 20:27:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahabut easier to engage students if thMon Jun 27 20:27:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @mathhomwhen a problem bombs to me it mMon Jun 27 20:27:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Janscontinues to perseverance with faMon Jun 27 20:27:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@mathhombre#mathchdirector. Almost no care on their pMon Jun 27 20:28:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGraha100% compelling. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:28:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc Exactly!! >> MMainly I love making links #mathcMon Jun 27 20:28:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchincreased engagement across all
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@ColinTGraham@parkround and ask those who 'get it' tMon Jun 27 20:29:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@ColinTGrahaargument #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:29:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaalmost anything interesting with thMon Jun 27 20:29:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@park_star Sknow how other learners might stMon Jun 27 20:30:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@mathhombre@ColinTthose questions for the class. ValMon Jun 27 20:31:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@delta_dc @Cand discover novel. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:31:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@EmergentMath@mathproblem if students have alreadyMon Jun 27 20:32:00 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@stefras@Janshs So coexternally. Discover & uncover ovMon Jun 27 20:33:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham I visitedYear" poster voting on mathematiMon Jun 27 20:33:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaso student asks "what's next?" ThMon Jun 27 20:34:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@wilderlab Instructor atmath?" #mathchathttp://t.co/i853Mon Jun 27 20:35:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Vygots@stefras @mathhombre @emergMon Jun 27 20:35:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@delta_dc#mathchat Onshortcut.'Mon Jun 27 20:36:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrentertain some students rather thMon Jun 27 20:36:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@mathhombreplayed together and commonalitieMon Jun 27 20:37:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@delta_dc@ColinTGrahpart of your lesson then you are iMon Jun 27 20:38:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs RT @wilderlab:daughter like math?" #mathchathMon Jun 27 20:38:30 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@rkiker RT @teachingwtthat grab student attention?" #edcMon Jun 27 20:40:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaout rather than immediately solvaMon Jun 27 20:40:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@ColinTGrahhave the answer but..." #mathchaMon Jun 27 20:40:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@rkikeleft! #edchat#elemchat#ntchat#IMon Jun 27 20:40:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@stefras @mastu. Never got alpha even tho ansMon Jun 27 20:40:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:41:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@EmergentMath@stefrstudents, all problems. Let momeMon Jun 27 20:41:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Or theDidn't Euler say something about,Mon Jun 27 20:41:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@ColinTGraham@Emerbut related challenges... Ss choosMon Jun 27 20:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefrasWhat does it mtweeted that much today? #mathcMon Jun 27 20:44:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@stefras Exabe a compelling problem. #mathcMon Jun 27 20:44:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
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@ColinTGraham@stefrask why it works, others just use iMon Jun 27 20:46:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahawhere we can't explain upon the fMon Jun 27 20:47:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@delta_dc@stefras A beducational research. InstructionaMon Jun 27 20:47:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@rkiker #mathc#ISTE11
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@ColinTGraham@Jansmathematics underlies but doesn'Mon Jun 27 20:47:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@Janshs @delanswer. Answers are necessaryMon Jun 27 20:49:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre@Janshsgrade, we'd be getting somewherMon Jun 27 20:50:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrshowing disinterest)... need moreMon Jun 27 20:50:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre@stefras
showing the value of solving a siMon Jun 27 20:51:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaand learning lost. Lost compelling.Mon Jun 27 20:51:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@JansAwareness of audience can haveMon Jun 27 20:51:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre@stefrasproblem solving, not if the require
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s @delta_dc I think you can *show* a sh... c'est la vie! #mathchat5448975162937345 - #244
Is age an issue? Or do we make it an imiliar >> understanding #mathchat5449092389535744 - #245
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s I would totally go for cross-curricular toverpower. Look at NRICH site. #math
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Aw. Kids should have nominated too. I#mathchat
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s Also make communication of findingsa big impact on involvement. #mathchat5450185391603713 - #254
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Mon Jun 27 20:52:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs @mathhombrinstead of a grade, we'd be gettinMon Jun 27 20:52:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:52:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefr'tradition' for the year group, don'tMon Jun 27 20:52:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchon my thesis problem for 3 years.Mon Jun 27 20:52:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras I once did an aorder, and weight reflected what tMon Jun 27 20:52:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@ColinTGraharesults#mathchatMon Jun 27 20:53:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@delta_dc I agfind & using shortcut leads to lossMon Jun 27 20:53:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@Jansgrade with an 'alpha' instead of aMon Jun 27 20:53:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham OK, las
problems that grab student attentiMon Jun 27 20:54:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchtrap with B1=0 in terms of the areMon Jun 27 20:56:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaextremes in Ss & our topic in 90Mon Jun 27 20:56:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre#mathchmaking sense of it.
nd compelling problems that grab student atte
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: @Janshs @stefras #mathchat now if tsomewhere! yep!
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thanks! #mathchat5450464056983552 - #257
s I think it was the kids idea to ask the teknow the details! #mathchat5450465315274753 - #258
t good problem solving doesn't always g
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preciation contract in English once. Ss dey did. #mathchat
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thinking use audio video etc to commu
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ee finding shortcuts is compelling, but thof math. #mathchat5450763475759104 - #263
s @stefras @mathhombre And only a'A'... ;-P #mathchat
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5 minutes everyone... any final thought
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t just looking at stu work where they ideform. Great generalizing.
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I think we have to generalize. We can'tin #mathchat5451495838990336 - #267
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@stefras RT @mathhomvalue of solving a simpler probleMon Jun 27 20:57:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@mathhombre@stefrasor by thinkingMon Jun 27 20:57:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Are wethrowing out lots of different thingMon Jun 27 20:58:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Do we
we bring to class? Should Ss be gMon Jun 27 21:00:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaproblems of diffeent level. #mathcMon Jun 27 21:01:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahatake over, bring problems, in manMon Jun 27 21:02:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@mathfound method on YouTube but coMon Jun 27 21:02:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras RT @ColinTGrYes, in some classes. Leads to oMon Jun 27 21:02:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 21:03:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham That's ianother lively discussion.Mon Jun 27 21:03:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@earlsamuelson RT @dBut finding them can be a compellMon Jun 27 21:04:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham "shortcWhat is a big bugbear for you? #
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re: #mathchat Where we contrive often. Then generalize. > Analogy.5451746008240128 - #269
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I think levels of the same problem canhat5452605358219264 - #273
I think we should lots of wonder why. Aof the classes? #mathchat
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for another #mathchat folks! Thanks for
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Mon Jun 27 21:04:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahatouch the question. Mixed. ThankMon Jun 27 21:04:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@suburbanlion RT @delshortcut not taking the shortcut.'Mon Jun 27 21:06:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham Next toFriday is Canada day, Monday isMon Jun 27 21:06:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@Janshs@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 21:07:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Did we identifyseems we didn't? 90 min too shorMon Jun 27 21:08:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras@ColinTGrahathem? #mathchatMon Jun 27 21:09:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham I may band at #tmcymru... so go ahead wMon Jun 27 21:09:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrdoing holiday-related lessons is uMon Jun 27 21:10:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Have a great d
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@stefras@ColinTGrahahave reasons. Not vagueness (relMon Jun 27 21:12:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@ColinTGraham@stefrin "The Twelve Days of ChristmasMon Jun 27 21:14:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id
@stefras Another #mathchttp://bit.ly/e0viRm. Mon Jun 27 21:14:
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As usually, we accomplished a lot, butColin again. #mathchat
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ta_dc: #mathchat One of my learners sai
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ic is "Holiday mathematics - show-and-tK v US terrorist day! #mathchat
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thanks to you and all #mathchat5454115697737728 - #287
nd define the nuances, concepts & issu. Couple of yrs? #mathchat5454359680389120 - #289
Do we bring examples of Holiday math
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absent from or late to both, since I willithout me if necessary! #mathchat5454756092456960 - #291
s Yes, not just the immediate holidays,eful, or maybe contrived...? #mathchat5455020564287490 - #292
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s Well, for example, is working out the n" contrived...? ;-) #mathchat5455894091010048 - #296
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