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    @ColinTGraham Hello eMon Jun 27 19:30:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    with one or two people instead. DMon Jun 27 19:31:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @ColinTGraham If you anear the start of the tweet. You mMon Jun 27 19:32:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 19:32:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Today'sproblems that grab student attentiMon Jun 27 19:32:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrweekend for this revisit... ;-) #matMon Jun 27 19:33:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahagates. #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:34:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc#mathchat Enpotential to complete and purposeMon Jun 27 19:34:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham OK, on"wow!" factor of grabbing attentioMon Jun 27 19:35:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@deltafun? Crosswords aren't exactly "pMon Jun 27 19:36:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras Engagement ha

    pay more attention to activity thanMon Jun 27 19:37:27 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    Hi Colin. Great day for a #mathchat5430338012196864 - #7

    topic follows up last time's... "How do I fon?" #mathchat5430358799159296 - #8

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    gaging learners requires problems that tfor lives.5430845158072320 - #11

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    @ColinTGraham Beforeattention'? Are they predictable?Mon Jun 27 19:38:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahadoing. But engaging, sustaining inMon Jun 27 19:38:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaimaginations. Their curiosity. TheiMon Jun 27 19:39:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@dmarain In th90 min. #mathed#mathchat#Mat

    Mon Jun 27 19:40:17 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Are weI could do?" when we talk about bMon Jun 27 19:40:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc@ColinTGrahnot a real-life-math purist. #mathcMon Jun 27 19:40:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 19:40:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahastudents/people? #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:41:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras Hmm. I see Twigoing to be bumpy.Mon Jun 27 19:42:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@deltainteresting or engaging for all theMon Jun 27 19:42:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaengage more students. #mathchaMon Jun 27 19:42:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras Did we agree oMon Jun 27 19:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    nd compelling problems that grab student atte

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    I agree. Relevance does not have to bterest. #mathchat5431794383593473 - #17

    I think it depends on the student. Theirr pride. #mathchat5432079243952128 - #18

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    looking for: "How do you do that?" followeginning engagement? #mathchat5432286207676416 - #22

    am Puzzles can have purpose. Even 'strhat5432357460508672 - #23

    I think so. #mathchat5432370060210176 - #24

    Also we need to start withyour questio

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    ter is slow today. Probably due to #iste1

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    dc We cannot assume, either, that puzzs... #mathchat

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    But a problem, a challenge, to start the

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    @Sundayteatime#mathcthat is deceptively tough.Mon Jun 27 19:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras I like those. RTA seemingly easy puzzle that is dMon Jun 27 19:43:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @dmarain Calling a problfun to try. This has been my expeMon Jun 27 19:43:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc@ColinTGrahmay not engage someone else. M

    Mon Jun 27 19:44:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @wilderlab See Paul Locseeming forced and contrived #mMon Jun 27 19:44:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham I oftenquick diversion of attention. EngaMon Jun 27 19:44:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@dmarain Nestproblems also works. #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:44:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@wilderlab Thaturn on. #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:45:42 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@delta

    the "How do I find... " part of the tMon Jun 27 19:46:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@dmarproblem doing..." but it has to beMon Jun 27 19:47:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs Maybe you canMon Jun 27 19:47:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc#mathchat Thmathematical enthusiasm.Mon Jun 27 19:47:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    nd compelling problems that grab student atte

    hat something really easy to get into. A

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    @Sundayteatime: #mathchat somethingceptively tough.5433183868424192 - #31

    em a "puzzle" is less threatening and it sience. #mathchat5433189748850688 - #32

    am Which goes to @stefras question: wy purpose probably isn't yours. #mathch

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    ing problems or stories from which stude

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    t is a problem, isn't it? Engaging without

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    dc @stefras Exactly, and what no-one

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    ain You can set it up as a personal problgenuine 'teaser' for you #mathchat

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    teach students how to be engaged? #m5434129977581568 - #40

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    @stefras By nesting probbreak code, pose prob, solve #mMon Jun 27 19:47:46 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @wilderlab Yes... I haveproblem, engaging without contrivMon Jun 27 19:48:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@Janshs How?Mon Jun 27 19:48:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @druinok Engagement -wonder "what if" - (thinking of #anMon Jun 27 19:48:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs RT @delta_dc:I can model mathematical enthusiMon Jun 27 19:48:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Sundmethod to work it out or a quick, "Mon Jun 27 19:48:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@delta_dc Modempowering for students. #mathcMon Jun 27 19:49:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@wildedetectors in relation to what is 'reMon Jun 27 19:49:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@stefras seeMon Jun 27 19:49:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath Yes, sup?" @Janshs Maybe can teachMon Jun 27 19:50:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@stefras and hearly on #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:50:25 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@druinok I thinif challenges. #anyqs#wcydwt#Mon Jun 27 19:50:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    eally been thinking a great deal about iting. #mathchat5434252702908416 - #43

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    #mathchat The problem can be somethiasm.5434371376558081 - #46

    ayteatime Yes. Or a puzzle which has a lhinker's", method... #mathchat5434387797245952 - #47

    elling enthusiasm as well as method of sat

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    @ColinTGraham@Jansseem engaged and what it is that'Mon Jun 27 19:50:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahawhich changes result and activity.Mon Jun 27 19:51:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@republicofmaMon Jun 27 19:51:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathmathematically. That's engaging IMon Jun 27 19:51:28 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 19:52:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahawhat it is that's engaging them #mMon Jun 27 19:52:50 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @AshleyWalther I try to t

    to DO something to get the info inMon Jun 27 19:52:54 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@druinnatural 'mathy' questions. "How diMon Jun 27 19:52:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@republicofma#mathchatMon Jun 27 19:52:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @druinok@stefras agreengagement - I need to wonder aMon Jun 27 19:53:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @wilderlab Again, I think@ColinTGraham: relation to whatMon Jun 27 19:53:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@republicofmameant really about being engageMon Jun 27 19:54:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    s Can you teach engagement? Hmm...s engaging them may be a start #mathch5434930292731904 - #54

    Or missing information, so students arAll unique. #mathchat5435017089658881 - #55

    h yes a little like coaching? #mathchat5435064149741568 - #56

    hat @jamestanton works to help studenMO. We can always dig a little deeper.5435096324247553 - #57

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    h so do we coach life skills and teach m

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    d, but both spark the intellectual curiousout the world around me. #mathchat5435591176622080 - #63

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    @ColinTGraham@reputowards the prevention of the "FinMon Jun 27 19:54:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathin investigating their own problemMon Jun 27 19:54:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs RT @wilderlab:@ColinTGraham: relation to whatMon Jun 27 19:54:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@republicofmatteaching. So how do we compel t

    Mon Jun 27 19:54:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@republicofmastart? #mathchatMon Jun 27 19:55:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Ashlthink. The question is how/whereMon Jun 27 19:55:48 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras RT @ColinTGrif the teacher asks the student. OrMon Jun 27 19:56:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathfinished! G. H. Hardy was of a siMon Jun 27 19:56:16 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @reflectivemaths I find

    don't know how to capitalize on thMon Jun 27 19:56:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@Janshs I thinproblem solving. Like grammar duMon Jun 27 19:56:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @AshleyWalther .@Colikids pretty engaged & motivated tMon Jun 27 19:57:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrbeing a "good thing". Are we clea

    nd compelling problems that grab student atte

    licofmath I think @jamestanton's approaished!" response too. #mathchat5435864964018176 - #66

    hat @janshs I think a trick is to progress, after discussion & refinement.5435871708450817 - #67

    Again, I think of Lockhart and doing matis 'real' #mathchat5435875860824066 - #68

    h That is our job now, isn't it? Coaching/em this way? #mathchat

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    h just to be a pest: how long does that t

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    yWalther That's what most of us are tryio we find the "compulsion"? #mathchat

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    ham: @druinok "How did you do that?"how did he do that?#mathchat5436278849540096 - #72

    hat @ColinTGraham Yes. With @jamesilar mind - always another mountain pea5436303730147328 - #73

    y male students are engaged in the ide

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    math skills should be taught as studentring writing. #mathchat5436450702757888 - #76

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    Mon Jun 27 19:57:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 19:57:29 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs @EmergentMin Mathematics http://t.co/6aXPvAMon Jun 27 19:57:43 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @informed_edu Oh no, jMon Jun 27 19:57:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 19:58:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@wildesoccer playing (which for me is toMon Jun 27 19:59:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@republicofmatrelearn, new concepts, new skills,Mon Jun 27 19:59:09 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@republicofmaMon Jun 27 19:59:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathdefined. Other uses may not be.Mon Jun 27 19:59:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 20:00:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@informed_edMon Jun 27 20:00:20 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@Janshs I thinadvanced? If treat as natural nextMon Jun 27 20:00:21 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Ashlissue too. Some problems/puzzleMon Jun 27 20:00:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @AshleyWalther@refleengage about 1/3 of the class atMon Jun 27 20:00:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    nd compelling problems that grab student atte

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    hat @janshs It takes forever! So start e5436607670403073 - #79

    th: Things that are Good: A Problem Bay #mathchat5436668710092800 - #80

    st realised I've missed #mathchat!5436704751755264 - #81

    hat @informed_edu There's still an hou5436873161453569 - #82

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    h So discussion, feeback, rethink, reworrelevant to adulthood #mathchat5437027272757248 - #84

    h so maths teacher ed needed then? #5437088723513344 - #85

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    hat @janshs I would say so ( math teac5437320211333120 - #87

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    @ColinTGrahamMy poin@republicofmath:#mathchat Willibe.Mon Jun 27 20:01:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@AshleyWalthMon Jun 27 20:01:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs Sorry distracteMon Jun 27 20:01:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @[email protected] Jun 27 20:02:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc#mathchat Ellirole teachers play in noticing & naMon Jun 27 20:02:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:02:10 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @AshleyWalther .@Coli

    the teacher telling them....collaborMon Jun 27 20:02:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs @mathhombrtheir engagement. ah I like!Mon Jun 27 20:02:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@informed_edMon Jun 27 20:02:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Jansthinking? It does for me! I'd like toMon Jun 27 20:02:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathMon Jun 27 20:03:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@reflecgames... #mathchat

    Mon Jun 27 20:03:19 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    nd compelling problems that grab student atte

    t... do we each know what we mean? Rm & Kate's engagement was well define

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    r So now we have to identify "good ques5437662865002496 - #93

    from #mathchat by fox cub running acr5437706104086528 - #94

    #mathchat definitely worth teaching stu.

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    n Oliver Keene has book coming out in fming things like enthusiasm.5437773770788864 - #97

    No. What is engagement really, practic5437789247782912 - #98

    TGraham yea I guess I meant "on their

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    : @Janshs #mathchat definitely worth te

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    Just starting #mathchat5437912598056960 - #101

    s And does thinking mathematically diffget Ss doing the latter! #mathchat5437935951941632 - #102

    hat @ColinTGraham I don't even know5438006504337408 - #103

    tivemaths Maybe get them to design an

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    tion? (follow-up discussion)

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    @mathhombre#mathchrich, sortable problems. SortableMon Jun 27 20:03:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Only th@informed_edu: Oh no, just realiMon Jun 27 20:03:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:04:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@ColinTGrahathinking would be goodMon Jun 27 20:04:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@AshleyWalthdifferent outcomes. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:04:49 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre#mathchcontext? Student posed prob.s goMon Jun 27 20:04:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Jansconference... ;-) #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:04:58 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @republicofmath#mathlooking out window for extended tiMon Jun 27 20:04:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs RT @delta_dc:the important role teachers play inMon Jun 27 20:05:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras RT @Janshs: Slawn! Now that is engagement!Mon Jun 27 20:05:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre#mathchreq'd standardsMon Jun 27 20:05:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Topic rattention?" #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:05:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    first 30 mins, still an hour to go on Moned I've missed #mathchat!5438219046486018 - #106

    By find on own, find without teacher ha5438271089414144 - #107

    phew! Tricky #mathchat sometimes ju

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    r Multiple games. Different styles. Differ

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    t has anyone brought up @ddmeyer's #far towards engagement5438477377863680 - #110

    s That was what I was presenting about

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    hat Think I know when there's disengagme, excessive yawning, asleep, ...5438496352911360 - #112

    #mathchat Ellin Oliver Keene has booknoticing & naming thing ...

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    orry distracted from #mathchat by fox cu

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    t then teacher's challenge is to find situa

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    tion? (follow-up discussion)

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    @stefras@mathhombreMon Jun 27 20:05:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @EmergentMath Probleeducational hoarder http://t.co/eAMon Jun 27 20:11:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @stefras@republicofmatwhat haven't we defined yet? usuMon Jun 27 20:15:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @ColinTGraham@stefrwhere to ask for help, if needed,Mon Jun 27 20:15:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc#mathchat Lethese areas. How will you do it?

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    @mathhombre#mathchdirector. Almost no care on their pMon Jun 27 20:28:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGraha100% compelling. #mathchatMon Jun 27 20:28:14 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @ColinTGraham That immy learners said 'math is finding tMon Jun 27 20:37:35 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @EmergentMath@stefrstudents, all problems. Let momeMon Jun 27 20:41:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Or theDidn't Euler say something about,Mon Jun 27 20:41:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc Fits #mathchainstead of regurgitating info we wMon Jun 27 20:42:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrperson. Ss found out about them,

    Mon Jun 27 20:42:24 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@delta_dc But imeaning, the solving, the pattern,Mon Jun 27 20:42:51 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Emerbut related challenges... Ss choosMon Jun 27 20:43:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefrasWhat does it mtweeted that much today? #mathcMon Jun 27 20:44:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc@stefras Exabe a compelling problem. #mathcMon Jun 27 20:44:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefr

    down to 2 for #mathchat... #mathMon Jun 27 20:44:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrdown to 2 for #mathchat... #mathMon Jun 27 20:44:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@delta_dc WhMon Jun 27 20:44:57 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @JanshsWe are adding#mathchat any ideas?Mon Jun 27 20:45:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @ColinTGraham@stefrask why it works, others just use iMon Jun 27 20:46:37 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahawhere we can't explain upon the fMon Jun 27 20:47:05 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @delta_dc@stefras A beducational research. InstructionaMon Jun 27 20:47:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@rkiker #mathc#ISTE11

    Mon Jun 27 20:47:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Jansmathematics underlies but doesn'Mon Jun 27 20:47:52 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@Janshs @delanswer. Answers are necessaryMon Jun 27 20:49:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre@Janshsgrade, we'd be getting somewherMon Jun 27 20:50:02 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrshowing disinterest)... need moreMon Jun 27 20:50:08 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre@stefras

    showing the value of solving a siMon Jun 27 20:51:13 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaand learning lost. Lost compelling.Mon Jun 27 20:51:18 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@JansAwareness of audience can haveMon Jun 27 20:51:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre@stefrasproblem solving, not if the require

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    @stefras #mathchat now if that was fee!5449832810020865 - #250

    s Younger children can have very shortvariation. Am I generalizing? #mathchat5449858483363840 - #251

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    Aw. Kids should have nominated too. I#mathchat

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    s Also make communication of findingsa big impact on involvement. #mathchat5450185391603713 - #254

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    Mon Jun 27 20:52:06 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs @mathhombrinstead of a grade, we'd be gettinMon Jun 27 20:52:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 20:52:32 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefr'tradition' for the year group, don'tMon Jun 27 20:52:33 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre#mathchon my thesis problem for 3 years.Mon Jun 27 20:52:34 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras I once did an aorder, and weight reflected what tMon Jun 27 20:52:41 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@ColinTGraharesults#mathchatMon Jun 27 20:53:26 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@delta_dc I agfind & using shortcut leads to lossMon Jun 27 20:53:44 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@Jansgrade with an 'alpha' instead of aMon Jun 27 20:53:56 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham OK, las

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    @mathhombre#mathchtrap with B1=0 in terms of the areMon Jun 27 20:56:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaextremes in Ss & our topic in 90Mon Jun 27 20:56:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre#mathchmaking sense of it.

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    s I think it was the kids idea to ask the teknow the details! #mathchat5450465315274753 - #258

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    thinking use audio video etc to commu

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    s @stefras @mathhombre And only a'A'... ;-P #mathchat

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    @stefras RT @mathhomvalue of solving a simpler probleMon Jun 27 20:57:38 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @mathhombre@stefrasor by thinkingMon Jun 27 20:57:40 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Are wethrowing out lots of different thingMon Jun 27 20:58:22 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @stefras@ColinTGrahaproblems of diffeent level. #mathcMon Jun 27 21:01:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahatake over, bring problems, in manMon Jun 27 21:02:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@mathfound method on YouTube but coMon Jun 27 21:02:23 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras RT @ColinTGrYes, in some classes. Leads to oMon Jun 27 21:02:55 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 21:03:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham That's ianother lively discussion.Mon Jun 27 21:03:45 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @earlsamuelson RT @dBut finding them can be a compellMon Jun 27 21:04:11 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    Mon Jun 27 21:04:31 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahatouch the question. Mixed. ThankMon Jun 27 21:04:47 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @suburbanlion RT @delshortcut not taking the shortcut.'Mon Jun 27 21:06:15 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham Next toFriday is Canada day, Monday isMon Jun 27 21:06:53 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @Janshs@ColinTGrahaMon Jun 27 21:07:03 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras Did we identifyseems we didn't? 90 min too shorMon Jun 27 21:08:01 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras@ColinTGrahathem? #mathchatMon Jun 27 21:09:04 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham I may band at #tmcymru... so go ahead wMon Jun 27 21:09:36 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrdoing holiday-related lessons is uMon Jun 27 21:10:39 +0000 2011 - tweet id

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    @stefras@ColinTGrahahave reasons. Not vagueness (relMon Jun 27 21:12:59 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @ColinTGraham@stefrin "The Twelve Days of ChristmasMon Jun 27 21:14:07 +0000 2011 - tweet id

    @stefras Another #mathchttp://bit.ly/e0viRm. Mon Jun 27 21:14:

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