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1979 - UFOs Are Real_hJz6M8WEU20- transcript (automated).txt[16/07/2019 12:58:11]

100:00:11,250 --> 00:00:17,419[Music]

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300:00:41,079 --> 00:00:45,969[Music]

400:00:42,859 --> 00:00:45,969[Applause]

500:00:48,780 --> 00:00:51,859[Applause]

600:00:59,500 --> 00:01:05,870in November 1961 a secret meeting of

700:01:03,859 --> 00:01:07,879leading government-sponsored astronomers

800:01:05,870 --> 00:01:09,950was held to estimate the number of

900:01:07,879 --> 00:01:12,209planets in our own galaxy with

1000:01:09,950 --> 00:01:14,810intelligent life

1100:01:12,209 --> 00:01:17,789[Music]

1200:01:14,810 --> 00:01:20,629these scientists concluded that there

1300:01:17,790 --> 00:01:22,830are probably 40 to 50 million

1400:01:20,629 --> 00:01:27,409intelligent extraterrestrial


1500:01:22,829 --> 00:01:29,819civilizations in our galaxy alone

1600:01:27,409 --> 00:01:32,159there is ever increasing evidence that

1700:01:29,819 --> 00:01:35,199some of these extraterrestrial

1800:01:32,159 --> 00:01:46,948civilizations are visiting the earth

1900:01:35,200 --> 00:01:46,948[Music]

2000:01:50,049 --> 00:01:57,200[Music]

2100:01:54,250 --> 00:02:03,469you are seeing an unidentified flying

2200:01:57,200 --> 00:02:05,750object it is not a hoax it is real the

2300:02:03,469 --> 00:02:07,579film was taken by Leland Hansen while

2400:02:05,750 --> 00:02:11,780filming Catalina Island from a

2500:02:07,579 --> 00:02:13,609helicopter mr. Hanson was a professional

2600:02:11,780 --> 00:02:16,090photographer working for the United

2700:02:13,610 --> 00:02:16,090States Navy

2800:02:16,560 --> 00:02:22,628this film has been examined by

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00:02:19,259 --> 00:02:25,539photographic experts photographic

3000:02:22,628 --> 00:02:28,239analysis reveals that this circular UFO

3100:02:25,539 --> 00:02:32,019was about 30 feet in diameter and was

3200:02:28,239 --> 00:02:36,250traveling between 130 and 170 miles per

3300:02:32,019 --> 00:02:39,159hour it has no wings no tail section and

3400:02:36,250 --> 00:02:42,250no visible means of propulsion

3500:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,250[Music]

3600:02:44,900 --> 00:02:50,250mr. Henson also observed this object

3700:02:47,489 --> 00:02:52,569hovering stationary in the air before it

3800:02:50,250 --> 00:02:54,800began to move

3900:02:52,569 --> 00:02:57,900[Applause]

4000:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,610this sighting is only one of the many

4100:02:57,900 --> 00:03:02,490pieces of evidence the producers of this

4200:02:59,610 --> 00:03:07,730film will present verifying that some

4300:03:02,490 --> 00:03:07,730


UFOs are extraterrestrial spacecraft

4400:03:08,710 --> 00:03:14,060[Applause]

4500:03:11,769 --> 00:03:16,400we will reveal formerly classified

4600:03:14,060 --> 00:03:18,650secret documents which clearly

4700:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,080demonstrate that the government has

4800:03:18,650 --> 00:03:24,289knowledge of the extraterrestrial origin

4900:03:21,080 --> 00:03:28,010of some UFOs and is trying to keep this

5000:03:24,289 --> 00:03:30,078fact secret you will see documented

5100:03:28,009 --> 00:03:33,620evidence depicting the appearance of the

5200:03:30,079 --> 00:03:36,079alien beings who pilot these UFOs and we

5300:03:33,620 --> 00:03:38,810will present our conclusions as to what

5400:03:36,079 --> 00:03:47,900purpose these alien beings have in

5500:03:38,810 --> 00:03:50,930visiting the earth while in space as

5600:03:47,900 --> 00:03:53,120command pilot on Gemini 5 astronaut

5700:03:50,930 --> 00:03:55,099General James McDivitt saw an


5800:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,189unidentified object approach his

5900:03:55,098 --> 00:04:01,518spacecraft and then move away when he

6000:03:58,189 --> 00:04:03,889tried to film it one astronaut who

6100:04:01,519 --> 00:04:07,219actually chased a UFO while a fighter

6200:04:03,889 --> 00:04:10,699pilot in Germany in 1951 is Colonel

6300:04:07,219 --> 00:04:11,810Gordon Cooper one of the original seven

6400:04:10,699 --> 00:04:13,818mercury astronauts

6500:04:11,810 --> 00:04:17,478Colonel Cooper's sent this letter to the

6600:04:13,818 --> 00:04:21,560United Nations November 9th 1978 to

6700:04:17,478 --> 00:04:23,689express his view on UFOs I believe that

6800:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,209these extraterrestrial vehicles and

6900:04:23,689 --> 00:04:29,060their crews are visiting this planet

7000:04:26,209 --> 00:04:31,519from other planets which obviously are a

7100:04:29,060 --> 00:04:35,089little more technically advanced than we


7200:04:31,519 --> 00:04:37,370are here on earth I am somewhat

7300:04:35,089 --> 00:04:39,589qualified to discuss them since I have

7400:04:37,370 --> 00:04:42,160been into the fringes of the vast areas

7500:04:39,589 --> 00:04:42,159in which they

7600:04:44,470 --> 00:04:51,110also I did have occasion in 1951 to have

7700:04:48,319 --> 00:04:54,409two days of observation of many flights

7800:04:51,110 --> 00:04:57,139of them of different sizes flying in

7900:04:54,410 --> 00:04:59,689fighter formation generally from east to

8000:04:57,139 --> 00:05:01,639west over Europe they were at a higher

8100:04:59,689 --> 00:05:11,540altitude than we could reach with our

8200:05:01,639 --> 00:05:14,540jet fighters at that time we are showing

8300:05:11,540 --> 00:05:17,990you this film at one half its original

8400:05:14,540 --> 00:05:22,370speed this unidentified flying object

8500:05:17,990 --> 00:05:24,168was photographed by James waters toward

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00:05:22,370 --> 00:05:26,899the middle of the extreme right of the

8700:05:24,168 --> 00:05:29,948frame you will see a second UFO that

8800:05:26,899 --> 00:05:29,948appears briefly

8900:05:31,560 --> 00:05:38,259as we slow the film you can see that the

9000:05:35,709 --> 00:05:39,259UFO appears to change shape from frame

9100:05:38,259 --> 00:05:46,329to frame

9200:05:39,259 --> 00:05:46,329[Applause]

9300:05:46,540 --> 00:05:50,360yeah

9400:05:46,810 --> 00:05:53,559[Music]

9500:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,559[Applause]

9600:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,550the object photograph was flying at a

9700:05:56,759 --> 00:06:03,529faster speed than any conventional jet

9800:05:59,550 --> 00:06:03,530fighter can achieve at this low altitude

9900:06:06,019 --> 00:06:08,259[Music]

10000:06:07,060 --> 00:06:09,978


[Applause]

10100:06:08,259 --> 00:06:12,870[Music]

10200:06:09,978 --> 00:06:15,959now you will see the Colorado film and

10300:06:12,870 --> 00:06:36,509its original speed five times in rapid

10400:06:15,959 --> 00:06:42,299succession this series of three polaroid

10500:06:36,509 --> 00:06:44,069pictures was taken by Rex Heflin the

10600:06:42,300 --> 00:06:46,560presence in the photograph of objects

10700:06:44,069 --> 00:06:48,900such as telephone poles whose size and

10800:06:46,560 --> 00:06:51,329distance can easily be measured makes

10900:06:48,899 --> 00:06:54,839possible a detailed analysis of these

11000:06:51,329 --> 00:06:57,180photos this analysis indicates that the

11100:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,349disc shaped object was approximately 30

11200:06:57,180 --> 00:07:04,699feet in diameter

11300:06:58,350 --> 00:07:04,699[Music]

11400:07:07,029 --> 00:07:14,289mr. Heflin has never tried to use these


11500:07:09,740 --> 00:07:14,290pictures to gain publicity or profit

11600:07:17,879 --> 00:07:22,798[Music]

11700:07:18,730 --> 00:07:22,799[Applause]

11800:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,778[Music]

11900:07:33,038 --> 00:07:39,338another picture of a similar disc shaped

12000:07:35,838 --> 00:07:43,209object was taken by mr. Amiel Barnea

12100:07:39,338 --> 00:07:47,1497,000 miles away and three years later

12200:07:43,209 --> 00:07:49,158six years after that another UFO also

12300:07:47,149 --> 00:07:51,408remarkably similar to the one that mr.

12400:07:49,158 --> 00:07:54,368Heflin photographed was photographed in

12500:07:51,408 --> 00:07:54,368Yugoslavia

12600:07:58,170 --> 00:08:06,408[Music]

12700:08:01,668 --> 00:08:09,529in a 1978 Gallup poll 68% of Americans

12800:08:06,408 --> 00:08:16,759who expressed an opinion said that they


12900:08:09,529 --> 00:08:19,248believed UFOs are real that poll also

13000:08:16,759 --> 00:08:22,098revealed the higher the level of

13100:08:19,249 --> 00:08:30,050education the more likely a person is to

13200:08:22,098 --> 00:08:32,569believe that UFOs are real 13 million

13300:08:30,050 --> 00:08:35,288adult Americans believe that they have

13400:08:32,570 --> 00:08:35,289seen a UFO

13500:08:35,320 --> 00:08:42,189[Applause]

13600:08:38,889 --> 00:08:45,909this is an official UFO sighting report

13700:08:42,188 --> 00:08:48,639detailing the observation of a UFO by 10

13800:08:45,909 --> 00:08:51,009to 12 people for approximately 10

13900:08:48,639 --> 00:08:53,528minutes the sighting was reported by one

14000:08:51,009 --> 00:08:58,298of the witnesses President Jimmy Carter

14100:08:53,528 --> 00:09:01,359while governor of Georgia it could not

14200:08:58,298 --> 00:09:14,078have been a planet a star meteor or

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00:09:01,359 --> 00:09:16,980aircraft the president of Brazil mr.

14400:09:14,078 --> 00:09:20,138kubacheck released these four pictures

14500:09:16,980 --> 00:09:22,239they were taken by mr. branya a

14600:09:20,139 --> 00:09:24,009professional photographer on board a

14700:09:22,239 --> 00:09:25,749Brazilian Navy ship that was

14800:09:24,009 --> 00:09:29,109participating in the International

14900:09:25,749 --> 00:09:31,659Geophysical Year the UFO was seen by

15000:09:29,109 --> 00:09:34,089dozens of other witnesses on board the

15100:09:31,659 --> 00:09:36,668ship computer analysis of these

15200:09:34,089 --> 00:09:40,029photographs indicates that the UFO was a

15300:09:36,668 --> 00:09:43,289large Saturn shaped object of great

15400:09:40,028 --> 00:09:43,289distance from the camera

15500:09:48,029 --> 00:09:52,329[Applause]

15600:09:52,528 --> 00:09:58,179similar Saturn shaped UFOs have been

15700:09:55,929 --> 00:10:02,549


photographed in other parts of Brazil

15800:09:58,179 --> 00:10:02,549and on the other side of the world

15900:10:04,860 --> 00:10:11,778[Music]

16000:10:14,539 --> 00:10:20,819[Applause]

16100:10:26,279 --> 00:10:32,139one of the most active UFO investigators

16200:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,509we discovered in our research is retired

16300:10:32,139 --> 00:10:38,110Air Force lieutenant colonel Wendell

16400:10:34,509 --> 00:10:40,120Stevens Colonel Stevens spent 23 years

16500:10:38,110 --> 00:10:42,970on active duty in the United States Air

16600:10:40,120 --> 00:10:45,639Force as a pilot he specialized in air

16700:10:42,970 --> 00:10:48,250technical intelligence and the design of

16800:10:45,639 --> 00:10:50,470advanced aircraft he was a graduate of

16900:10:48,250 --> 00:10:52,929the Army Air Corps first test pilot

17000:10:50,470 --> 00:10:55,450school and at the age of 20 was a

17100:10:52,929 --> 00:11:01,089project officer on the p-47 fighter


17200:10:55,450 --> 00:11:05,670plane during World War two

17300:11:01,090 --> 00:11:05,670he flew in combat and was a test pilot

17400:11:05,909 --> 00:11:11,370Colonel Stevens is still an active pilot

17500:11:13,750 --> 00:11:19,360after World War two he was assigned to

17600:11:16,789 --> 00:11:22,610an airbase in Alaska where he debriefed

17700:11:19,360 --> 00:11:25,279b-29 crews who frequently described

17800:11:22,610 --> 00:11:29,480encounters with strange circular

17900:11:25,279 --> 00:11:31,610aircraft my first experience with a UFO

18000:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,769report personal experience that is was

18100:11:31,610 --> 00:11:35,240when one of the crews returned and said

18200:11:33,769 --> 00:11:37,850that they saw a bogey that's what they

18300:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,799called him up there that was moving at

18400:11:37,850 --> 00:11:43,639high speed at higher altitude than they

18500:11:39,799 --> 00:11:45,169could fly and the crews later I found


18600:11:43,639 --> 00:11:47,120out that often they often referred to

18700:11:45,169 --> 00:11:50,389them as as enemy aircraft or Russian

18800:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,460aircraft for usually bogeys and they

18900:11:50,389 --> 00:11:54,470tried to describe it but it moved at

19000:11:52,460 --> 00:11:56,330faster speeds than anything we had we

19100:11:54,470 --> 00:11:58,460didn't have jet airplanes then later we

19200:11:56,330 --> 00:12:00,650measured one that was flying 7,000 miles

19300:11:58,460 --> 00:12:02,600an hour measured it on radar so these

19400:12:00,649 --> 00:12:04,309clearly exceeded any of our capabilities

19500:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,860in 1940 any capabilities of anybody in

19600:12:04,309 --> 00:12:09,019the world in 1947 on an average of about

19700:12:06,860 --> 00:12:11,120twice a month I would get some kind of a

19800:12:09,019 --> 00:12:13,129UFO report and they would see the

19900:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,220circular craft sometimes close sometimes

200


00:12:13,129 --> 00:12:18,439far sometimes more than one I remember a

20100:12:16,220 --> 00:12:20,629crew describing one sitting on this on

20200:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,920the ice pack and this is something we

20300:12:20,629 --> 00:12:23,960couldn't do it in have any way to land

20400:12:21,919 --> 00:12:26,179up there and they seemed to be operating

20500:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,100in airspace without a visible support

20600:12:26,179 --> 00:12:30,589base it took a fantastic base for us to

20700:12:28,100 --> 00:12:32,540maintain to be 20 29 s just to support

20800:12:30,590 --> 00:12:34,570them flying in the Arctic I even had one

20900:12:32,539 --> 00:12:37,370crew described one that they saw

21000:12:34,570 --> 00:12:39,670underwater that surfaced Rose off the

21100:12:37,370 --> 00:12:41,830water and flew away

21200:12:39,669 --> 00:12:43,389this clearly exceeded any design

21300:12:41,830 --> 00:12:45,700capabilities that we knew of in the

21400:12:43,389 --> 00:12:47,139


world the b-29s flying these

21500:12:45,700 --> 00:12:49,629reconnaissance missions were equipped

21600:12:47,139 --> 00:12:51,460with a variety of cameras at various

21700:12:49,629 --> 00:12:54,250times they got pictures of these UFOs

21800:12:51,460 --> 00:12:55,900seen in the Arctic airspace on various

21900:12:54,250 --> 00:12:56,440of the cameras and sometimes on all of

22000:12:55,899 --> 00:12:58,090the cameras

22100:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,070at least this is what they reported I

22200:12:58,090 --> 00:13:02,019never got to see any of it because we

22300:13:00,070 --> 00:13:03,430took the film cartridges out packed it

22400:13:02,019 --> 00:13:05,379in the box and shipped it off to

22500:13:03,429 --> 00:13:07,689Washington to Andrews Air Force Base

22600:13:05,379 --> 00:13:09,909where the officer was met by Pentagon

22700:13:07,690 --> 00:13:12,190intelligence and taken some place I

22800:13:09,909 --> 00:13:14,049never got any feedback in in any of this


22900:13:12,190 --> 00:13:16,660I never heard what they developed out of

23000:13:14,049 --> 00:13:18,879it but the stories were fantastic this

23100:13:16,659 --> 00:13:21,639formerly classified letter written by

23200:13:18,879 --> 00:13:23,860General Nathan twining was the result of

23300:13:21,639 --> 00:13:26,759numerous UFO sightings by Air Force

23400:13:23,860 --> 00:13:29,980pilots such as Colonel Stevens described

23500:13:26,759 --> 00:13:32,950concerning flying discs reports general

23600:13:29,980 --> 00:13:35,139twining States and we quote the

23700:13:32,950 --> 00:13:38,950phenomenon reported is something real

23800:13:35,139 --> 00:13:41,259and not visionary or fictitious there

23900:13:38,950 --> 00:13:43,900are objects probably approximately the

24000:13:41,259 --> 00:13:46,629shape of a disc of such appreciable size

24100:13:43,899 --> 00:13:49,779as to appear to be as large as man-made

24200:13:46,629 --> 00:13:52,149aircraft the reported operating


24300:13:49,779 --> 00:13:55,269characteristics such as extreme rates of

24400:13:52,149 --> 00:13:58,659climb maneuverability must be considered

24500:13:55,269 --> 00:14:00,399evasive when sighted some of the objects

24600:13:58,659 --> 00:14:03,909are controlled either manually

24700:14:00,399 --> 00:14:05,860automatically or remotely the apparent

24800:14:03,909 --> 00:14:08,740common description of the object is as

24900:14:05,860 --> 00:14:11,909follows metallic or light reflecting

25000:14:08,740 --> 00:14:15,100surface circular or elliptical in shape

25100:14:11,909 --> 00:14:18,429flat on the bottom and domed on the top

25200:14:15,100 --> 00:14:20,769end quote this report makes it

25300:14:18,429 --> 00:14:23,500abundantly clear that the United States

25400:14:20,769 --> 00:14:26,230military knew of the reality of flying

25500:14:23,500 --> 00:14:28,289saucers and deliberately kept it a

25600:14:26,230 --> 00:14:28,289secret

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00:14:33,169 --> 00:14:39,089Colonel Stevens went on to tell us about

25800:14:35,789 --> 00:14:41,279two other experiences with UFOs while he

25900:14:39,090 --> 00:14:42,990was on active duty with the US Air Force

26000:14:41,279 --> 00:14:45,329I know of

26100:14:42,990 --> 00:14:48,750Lieutenant Colonel for instance who was

26200:14:45,330 --> 00:14:52,379pursuing a UFO in an f-86 with a wingman

26300:14:48,750 --> 00:14:54,179with him and he armed his camera which

26400:14:52,379 --> 00:14:55,799involves the arming switch for guns and

26500:14:54,179 --> 00:14:57,269everything else on the airplane it goes

26600:14:55,799 --> 00:15:00,019through an armament fire control panel

26700:14:57,269 --> 00:15:03,179this man lives within 60 miles of here

26800:15:00,019 --> 00:15:05,340he armed the the fire control panel to

26900:15:03,179 --> 00:15:07,019take camera pictures with his camera

27000:15:05,340 --> 00:15:09,149guns and the whole panel began to smoke

27100:15:07,019 --> 00:15:11,340


and went on all the electrical systems

27200:15:09,149 --> 00:15:13,289and it went out when he got back to base

27300:15:11,340 --> 00:15:15,780they found wires fused in it and could

27400:15:13,289 --> 00:15:17,519find no reason for it being fused took

27500:15:15,779 --> 00:15:20,220him two weeks to repair the airplane but

27600:15:17,519 --> 00:15:22,710he had a visual lock on visual contact

27700:15:20,220 --> 00:15:24,240with the UFO could see with his eyes it

27800:15:22,710 --> 00:15:26,070was close enough to see detail and

27900:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,230structure on it and wanted to film it

28000:15:26,070 --> 00:15:31,260with his gun cameras my next experience

28100:15:28,230 --> 00:15:33,210with what was probably a real UFO was in

28200:15:31,259 --> 00:15:36,3891960 when I was a squadron commander in

28300:15:33,210 --> 00:15:38,970Florida I had a squadron test pilot up

28400:15:36,389 --> 00:15:41,279on a flight test mission with f100 and a

28500:15:38,970 --> 00:15:43,950max performance flying pistol he was


28600:15:41,279 --> 00:15:46,769climbing through 18,000 feet when he saw

28700:15:43,950 --> 00:15:48,660an object ahead and above him that

28800:15:46,769 --> 00:15:51,120looked like the Goodyear blimp and he

28900:15:48,659 --> 00:15:52,889thought oh my god what can this be and

29000:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,299he knows we're all over the Goodyear

29100:15:52,889 --> 00:15:57,120blimp can't get that high

29200:15:54,299 --> 00:15:59,969he went into afterburner to catch up to

29300:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,889it and he began to close momentarily on

29400:15:59,970 --> 00:16:03,629the thing and then it began to only pace

29500:16:01,889 --> 00:16:05,490it and then it speeded up and just

29600:16:03,629 --> 00:16:08,610walked away from him climbing away at a

29700:16:05,490 --> 00:16:10,500steep angle above him I mean an f100 in

29800:16:08,610 --> 00:16:12,000afterburner climbing at max speed that's

29900:16:10,500 --> 00:16:14,909the fastest airplane we got at the time


30000:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,440he last saw it speeding away from him

30100:16:14,909 --> 00:16:18,329above 33,000 feet

30200:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,640there's no way in a world any blimp can

30300:16:18,330 --> 00:16:22,230get up there and he came back and he

30400:16:20,639 --> 00:16:24,480told me about this experience he was

30500:16:22,230 --> 00:16:26,519white he was it was a traumatic thing

30600:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,690because he realized everybody would

30700:16:26,519 --> 00:16:30,569realize under the conditions it's

30800:16:27,690 --> 00:16:33,090something unearthly something unearthly

30900:16:30,570 --> 00:16:35,400is a good way to describe this

31000:16:33,090 --> 00:16:38,160unidentified flying object that was

31100:16:35,399 --> 00:16:40,919photographed by mr. Paul Trent when he

31200:16:38,159 --> 00:16:43,620and another witness saw it fly across

31300:16:40,919 --> 00:16:45,589his farm these two pictures have been

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00:16:43,620 --> 00:16:48,720the subject of some of the most rigorous

31500:16:45,590 --> 00:16:53,850photographic analysis ever done on UFO

31600:16:48,720 --> 00:16:56,100photographs one such analysis was

31700:16:53,850 --> 00:16:59,310published by dr. Bruce Maccabee an

31800:16:56,100 --> 00:17:01,050optical physicist involved in advanced

31900:16:59,309 --> 00:17:05,069laser research for the United States

32000:17:01,049 --> 00:17:06,919Navy he calculated that the object would

32100:17:05,069 --> 00:17:10,529have been about a mile away and

32200:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,539approximately 30 feet in diameter my

32300:17:10,529 --> 00:17:14,220analysis of the complete case leads me

32400:17:12,539 --> 00:17:16,709to believe that the Trent's are actually

32500:17:14,220 --> 00:17:19,588telling the truth an unusual object did

32600:17:16,709 --> 00:17:22,410fly at some distance from their farm it

32700:17:19,588 --> 00:17:24,480would have been quite large and its

32800:17:22,410 --> 00:17:26,720


shape is such that I don't believe it

32900:17:24,480 --> 00:17:34,519was made by mankind

33000:17:26,720 --> 00:17:34,519[Music]

33100:17:37,589 --> 00:17:42,699additional support for the McMinnville

33200:17:40,298 --> 00:17:45,908photograph comes from this photograph of

33300:17:42,700 --> 00:17:48,759a strikingly similar object taken four

33400:17:45,909 --> 00:17:52,030years later and six thousand miles away

33500:17:48,759 --> 00:17:54,519by a French military pilot the

33600:17:52,029 --> 00:17:56,230similarity is so pronounced that one

33700:17:54,519 --> 00:17:59,500might think that these photographs are

33800:17:56,230 --> 00:18:02,599of the same object or of two different

33900:17:59,500 --> 00:18:04,999objects manufactured at the same place

34000:18:02,599 --> 00:18:07,968[Applause]

34100:18:04,999 --> 00:18:11,028this remarkable series of pictures taken

34200:18:07,969 --> 00:18:14,899by roy Lauritzen destroys the myth that


34300:18:11,028 --> 00:18:16,939UFOs are never seen over big cities the

34400:18:14,898 --> 00:18:19,068original negative of this filmstrip has

34500:18:16,939 --> 00:18:21,229been examined by an experienced UFO

34600:18:19,068 --> 00:18:24,378researcher and found to be in its

34700:18:21,229 --> 00:18:27,709original uncut state this greatly

34800:18:24,378 --> 00:18:30,048reduces any possibility of fraud there

34900:18:27,709 --> 00:18:33,349is only a vacant lot where mr. Lauritzen

35000:18:30,048 --> 00:18:36,378stood when he took these pictures he was

35100:18:33,348 --> 00:18:40,148not standing behind a window the object

35200:18:36,378 --> 00:18:40,148is not a reflection

35300:18:40,490 --> 00:18:45,370[Music]

35400:18:45,319 --> 00:18:54,169[Applause]

35500:18:45,369 --> 00:18:57,059[Music]

35600:18:54,170 --> 00:18:59,160in spite of considerable harassment


35700:18:57,059 --> 00:19:00,539professional pilots continue to come

35800:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,290forward with their accounts of

35900:19:00,539 --> 00:19:07,019incredible encounters with UFOs inventor

36000:19:04,289 --> 00:19:08,879and author dr. Richard Haines is seen

36100:19:07,019 --> 00:19:12,299here working with his computerized

36200:19:08,880 --> 00:19:14,370research file of over 3,000 UFO

36300:19:12,299 --> 00:19:18,240sightings by commercial and military

36400:19:14,369 --> 00:19:20,519pilots because good eyesight and sharp

36500:19:18,240 --> 00:19:23,039abilities of observation are required to

36600:19:20,519 --> 00:19:24,900become a professional pilot dr. Haines

36700:19:23,039 --> 00:19:28,139believes that the testimony of these

36800:19:24,900 --> 00:19:30,030credible witnesses cannot be ignored

36900:19:28,140 --> 00:19:32,160we're not dealing with mental

37000:19:30,029 --> 00:19:33,629projections or hallucinations on the

371


00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,820part of the witness but with a real

37200:19:33,630 --> 00:19:38,040physical phenomenon one of the most

37300:19:35,819 --> 00:19:40,889thoroughly investigated cases in dr.

37400:19:38,039 --> 00:19:43,230Haines file involves the near collision

37500:19:40,890 --> 00:19:45,450of a UFO with the United States Army

37600:19:43,230 --> 00:19:49,230helicopter piloted by Lieutenant Colonel

37700:19:45,450 --> 00:19:51,960Lawrence Coyne and his crew while flying

37800:19:49,230 --> 00:19:55,740over Mansfield Ohio at 11 p.m. on

37900:19:51,960 --> 00:19:58,529October 18th 1973 they observed a bright

38000:19:55,740 --> 00:20:01,319red object which paralleled their craft

38100:19:58,529 --> 00:20:03,339and then rapidly moved toward them on a

38200:20:01,319 --> 00:20:07,059collision course

38300:20:03,339 --> 00:20:09,639I looked out the window and observed

38400:20:07,059 --> 00:20:12,730this light moving at a very excessive

38500:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,230


speed in excess of 600 knots coming out

38600:20:12,730 --> 00:20:17,289the helicopter it looked like a locked

38700:20:14,230 --> 00:20:19,900on missile a family of five in a car

38800:20:17,289 --> 00:20:21,759observed the strange red object on a

38900:20:19,900 --> 00:20:24,640collision course with Colonel coins

39000:20:21,759 --> 00:20:26,349helicopter they pulled off the road to

39100:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,330watch the thing that makes this

39200:20:26,349 --> 00:20:30,129particular evening a unique experience

39300:20:28,329 --> 00:20:32,589was that it was almost a mid-air

39400:20:30,130 --> 00:20:35,890collision with an object that we you

39500:20:32,589 --> 00:20:38,199know as a UFO we did not know was such

39600:20:35,890 --> 00:20:39,820and Tola was on top the helicopter and

39700:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,980that took just a matter of minutes

39800:20:39,819 --> 00:20:45,250Colonel coin put the helicopter into a

39900:20:41,980 --> 00:20:47,860dive to try to avoid impact when he and


40000:20:45,250 --> 00:20:50,079his crew had done the object was keeping

40100:20:47,859 --> 00:20:53,199pace with them while I was in this

40200:20:50,079 --> 00:20:58,359position and a green light came out from

40300:20:53,200 --> 00:21:01,000the undercarriage of the UFO Colonel

40400:20:58,359 --> 00:21:04,569coin cut the power and set the controls

40500:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,609for a steep dive in spite of this the

40600:21:04,569 --> 00:21:10,000helicopter was pulled upward toward the

40700:21:06,609 --> 00:21:13,599UFO from an altitude of 1,700 feet to an

40800:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,730altitude of above 3,700 feet Colonel

40900:21:13,599 --> 00:21:18,730coin and his crew observed the strange

41000:21:15,730 --> 00:21:20,650UFO at close range for approximately two

41100:21:18,730 --> 00:21:25,059minutes the object that I viewed that

41200:21:20,650 --> 00:21:28,000particular evening had a high degree of

41300:21:25,059 --> 00:21:31,119Technology was composed of a structure


41400:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,769and a design that we do not have the

41500:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,049object can move through the atmosphere

41600:21:32,769 --> 00:21:38,319without causing any turbulence it can

41700:21:35,049 --> 00:21:40,099move at high speeds below 10,000 feet

41800:21:38,319 --> 00:21:42,319there are no word

41900:21:40,099 --> 00:21:44,750horizontal stabilizers no landing gear

42000:21:42,319 --> 00:21:48,470no source of propulsion reflected on the

42100:21:44,750 --> 00:21:49,200craft looks like it it could fly in

42200:21:48,470 --> 00:21:57,298space

42300:21:49,200 --> 00:21:57,298[Music]

42400:21:59,509 --> 00:22:04,250this document is the result of years of

42500:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,460investigation into lieutenant colonel

42600:22:04,250 --> 00:22:10,329coins helicopter encounter with a UFO it

42700:22:07,460 --> 00:22:13,309verifies the facts just presented to you

428


00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:15,919Lieutenant Colonel coin felt so strongly

42900:22:13,309 --> 00:22:17,750about his UFO experience that he became

43000:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,360part of a delegation to the United

43100:22:17,750 --> 00:22:23,650Nations that tried to encourage the UN

43200:22:20,359 --> 00:22:26,359to deal with the subject of UFOs

43300:22:23,650 --> 00:22:28,610increasingly UFOs have become the

43400:22:26,359 --> 00:22:31,609subject of serious investigation by

43500:22:28,609 --> 00:22:33,109professional scientists one of the

43600:22:31,609 --> 00:22:34,939twelve scientists should give evidence

43700:22:33,109 --> 00:22:38,509before the u.s. congressional hearings

43800:22:34,940 --> 00:22:41,870on UFOs is California nuclear physicist

43900:22:38,509 --> 00:22:44,420Stanton Friedman who spent 14 years in

44000:22:41,869 --> 00:22:47,209private industry working extensively on

44100:22:44,420 --> 00:22:49,700classified government sponsored projects

44200:22:47,210 --> 00:22:54,350


such as this nuclear rocket engine and

44300:22:49,700 --> 00:22:57,470other advanced space systems since 1970

44400:22:54,349 --> 00:23:01,309is the only space scientist known to be

44500:22:57,470 --> 00:23:04,069devoting full time to UFOs after 21

44600:23:01,309 --> 00:23:06,139years of study and investigation I'm

44700:23:04,069 --> 00:23:08,899convinced that the evidence is simply

44800:23:06,140 --> 00:23:10,850overwhelming that our planet Earth is

44900:23:08,900 --> 00:23:14,120being visited by intelligently

45000:23:10,849 --> 00:23:18,039controlled vehicles whose origin is off

45100:23:14,119 --> 00:23:21,109the earth in other words some UFOs

45200:23:18,039 --> 00:23:22,190underline the some about 10 times our

45300:23:21,109 --> 00:23:26,750somebody else's

45400:23:22,190 --> 00:23:29,210spacecraft I'm only concerned with those

45500:23:26,750 --> 00:23:32,329UFO reports which indicate things of

45600:23:29,210 --> 00:23:35,750definite size shape surface texture


45700:23:32,329 --> 00:23:37,730whose behavior clearly indicates that

45800:23:35,750 --> 00:23:40,160they were manufactured somewhere other

45900:23:37,730 --> 00:23:42,799than Earth the kind of behavior that

46000:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,050Stanton Friedman is talking about is the

46100:23:42,799 --> 00:23:47,539ability to go ten thousand miles per

46200:23:45,049 --> 00:23:50,740hour in the atmosphere as observed on

46300:23:47,539 --> 00:23:53,480radar and make sharp right angle turns

46400:23:50,740 --> 00:23:57,109nobody on planet Earth is able to

46500:23:53,480 --> 00:24:00,140duplicate that behavior the observation

46600:23:57,109 --> 00:24:02,769of UFOs is by no means a recent

46700:24:00,140 --> 00:24:02,770phenomenon

46800:24:04,799 --> 00:24:14,989[Music]

46900:24:12,669 --> 00:24:19,788listen to this account by a Roman

47000:24:14,989 --> 00:24:22,308soldier written in 98 AD at sunset a


47100:24:19,788 --> 00:24:25,190burning shield passed over the sky at

47200:24:22,308 --> 00:24:28,398Rome it sparkled from the west and

47300:24:25,190 --> 00:24:30,048passed to the east the Roman soldiers

47400:24:28,398 --> 00:24:32,328description of that burning shield

47500:24:30,048 --> 00:24:34,519matches very closely what was

47600:24:32,328 --> 00:24:40,098photographed in Salt Lake City by mister

47700:24:34,519 --> 00:24:43,509Lauritzen in 1972 on September 30th 1870

47800:24:40,098 --> 00:24:46,458the London Times published this article

47900:24:43,509 --> 00:24:49,219the object was elliptical in shape with

48000:24:46,459 --> 00:24:50,989a kind of tail it crossed the moon from

48100:24:49,219 --> 00:24:53,599one side to the other in half a minute

48200:24:50,989 --> 00:24:58,818this picture was taken in Switzerland

48300:24:53,598 --> 00:25:02,378over 100 years after that report this

48400:24:58,818 --> 00:25:05,989description was written in 216 BC at

485


00:25:02,378 --> 00:25:08,419Aparri east of Rome a round shield was

48600:25:05,989 --> 00:25:10,420seen in the sky

48700:25:08,420 --> 00:25:13,579[Music]

48800:25:10,420 --> 00:25:13,579[Applause]

48900:25:16,849 --> 00:25:23,730another manuscript dated 1290 ad

49000:25:20,099 --> 00:25:25,679recorded this UFO sighting they all

49100:25:23,730 --> 00:25:28,529rushed out into the open and behold

49200:25:25,680 --> 00:25:31,140there was an awful thing a nearly

49300:25:28,529 --> 00:25:35,099circular object of silver appearance not

49400:25:31,140 --> 00:25:38,000unlike a discus flying above them all it

49500:25:35,099 --> 00:25:41,279excited amongst all the greatest terror

49600:25:38,000 --> 00:25:45,299these ancient sightings are not isolated

49700:25:41,279 --> 00:25:48,559cases this modern film seems to fit

49800:25:45,299 --> 00:25:51,359another ancient account almost exactly

49900:25:48,559 --> 00:25:54,960


they are appeared in the sky a brilliant

50000:25:51,359 --> 00:25:58,169object like an iron bar long and wide as

50100:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,269half the moon for 15 minutes it hovered

50200:25:58,170 --> 00:26:02,460motionless then suddenly the strange

50300:26:00,269 --> 00:26:04,769object began to rise in spirals and

50400:26:02,460 --> 00:26:07,259twist and writhe like the uncoiled

50500:26:04,769 --> 00:26:11,490mainspring of a watch and after it

50600:26:07,259 --> 00:26:15,230vanished in the sky that account was

50700:26:11,490 --> 00:26:19,230written on All Saints Day November 1st

50800:26:15,230 --> 00:26:22,1101461 but it could almost as easily have

50900:26:19,230 --> 00:26:23,880been written describing this film taken

51000:26:22,109 --> 00:26:29,459near New Zealand by a television news

51100:26:23,880 --> 00:26:32,160crew on December 31st 1978 this UFO was

51200:26:29,460 --> 00:26:33,990observed by five witnesses beside the

51300:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,750cameraman who photographed it while


51400:26:33,990 --> 00:26:39,539flying in an airplane it was also

51500:26:36,750 --> 00:26:43,019observed on two ground-based radar sets

51600:26:39,539 --> 00:26:45,308and on the radar in the airplane

51700:26:43,019 --> 00:26:47,759perhaps the most interesting part of the

51800:26:45,308 --> 00:26:51,149entire New Zealand film is this

51900:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,150unexplainable frame

52000:26:51,480 --> 00:26:59,849[Music]

52100:26:57,049 --> 00:27:02,909during this section of the film the UFO

52200:26:59,849 --> 00:27:05,439not only changes size and shape but

52300:27:02,910 --> 00:27:07,440changes color from red to white

52400:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,759[Music]

52500:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,350[Applause]

52600:27:09,759 --> 00:27:15,349dr. Bruce Maccabee has conducted the

52700:27:12,349 --> 00:27:18,829most thorough investigation of this UFO


52800:27:15,349 --> 00:27:21,679case he has interviewed extensively all

52900:27:18,829 --> 00:27:25,339the witnesses and has analyzed the film

53000:27:21,680 --> 00:27:28,340frame by frame I've concluded that the

53100:27:25,339 --> 00:27:30,709film does not show Venus or Jupiter it

53200:27:28,339 --> 00:27:32,779does not show meteors or mating mutton

53300:27:30,710 --> 00:27:35,120Birds it does not show secret military

53400:27:32,779 --> 00:27:37,460maneuvers or the squid fishing fleet

53500:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,250I've concluded that the film is not a

53600:27:37,460 --> 00:27:42,019hoax my investigation of this whole case

53700:27:40,250 --> 00:27:44,119leads me to believe that the film shows

53800:27:42,019 --> 00:27:46,039a real unidentified flying object

53900:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,979there's a clipping service that

54000:27:46,039 --> 00:27:51,289publishes an average of 60 pages a month

54100:27:48,980 --> 00:27:55,460of UFO sighting reports gathered from

542


00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:57,829newspapers by only occasionally

54300:27:55,460 --> 00:28:00,710reporting a UFO sighting the mass media

54400:27:57,829 --> 00:28:03,349creates the mistaken belief that UFO

54500:28:00,710 --> 00:28:08,779observations are rare and separated by

54600:28:03,349 --> 00:28:11,329years this is untrue UFO activity is a

54700:28:08,779 --> 00:28:13,460continuing phenomenon on a worldwide

54800:28:11,329 --> 00:28:21,189scale

54900:28:13,460 --> 00:28:21,190[Applause]

55000:28:26,250 --> 00:28:33,068[Applause]

55100:28:35,420 --> 00:28:43,160[Music]

55200:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,220[Applause]

55300:28:48,099 --> 00:28:51,219[Music]

55400:28:51,799 --> 00:29:17,240[Applause]

55500:28:52,910 --> 00:29:19,019[Music]

55600:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,608


[Applause]

55700:29:19,019 --> 00:29:24,009UFOs have not only been observed in the

55800:29:21,608 --> 00:29:26,558air thousands of people from almost

55900:29:24,009 --> 00:29:31,588every part of the world have reported

56000:29:26,558 --> 00:29:31,588seeing UFOs on or just above the ground

56100:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,820this is a photograph of a UFO landing

56200:29:35,619 --> 00:29:41,479site

56300:29:37,819 --> 00:29:41,480[Music]

56400:29:42,259 --> 00:29:48,480Ted Phillips of Sedalia Missouri seen

56500:29:45,630 --> 00:29:50,820here examining a UFO affected area is

56600:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,400acknowledged as the world expert on the

56700:29:50,819 --> 00:29:56,220physical traces found at UFO landing

56800:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,740sites mr. Phillips is a research

56900:29:56,220 --> 00:30:01,259associate of the Center for UFO studies

57000:29:58,740 --> 00:30:03,929and has conducted specialized research


57100:30:01,259 --> 00:30:06,140on the physical traces found at UFO

57200:30:03,929 --> 00:30:09,540landing sites for the past nine years

57300:30:06,140 --> 00:30:12,000the results of his research our files on

57400:30:09,539 --> 00:30:16,349over fourteen hundred and eighty UFO

57500:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,859landings from 59 countries mr. Phillips

57600:30:16,349 --> 00:30:23,219has personally investigated over 500 UFO

57700:30:19,859 --> 00:30:25,979sightings and visited over 300 UFO

57800:30:23,220 --> 00:30:28,950landing sites these are soil samples

57900:30:25,980 --> 00:30:31,558taken from five recent UFO landing sites

58000:30:28,950 --> 00:30:33,750and are fairly representative of some

58100:30:31,558 --> 00:30:35,519two to three hundred UFO landing sites

58200:30:33,750 --> 00:30:39,210that I have personally been involved

58300:30:35,519 --> 00:30:42,539with this is a small portion of the soil

58400:30:39,210 --> 00:30:46,650taken from a UFO landing site in delphos


58500:30:42,539 --> 00:30:50,490Kansas the soil in the UFO landing rain

58600:30:46,650 --> 00:30:55,300is extremely dehydrated and is unable to

58700:30:50,490 --> 00:30:57,700absorb water instead it simply floats

58800:30:55,299 --> 00:31:00,169[Applause]

58900:30:57,700 --> 00:31:02,569soyal taken only a few feet away that

59000:31:00,170 --> 00:31:08,240was not part of the UFO landing Rainn

59100:31:02,569 --> 00:31:10,049behaves normally within a few seconds it

59200:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,460absorbed the water that we poured on it

59300:31:10,049 --> 00:31:16,308[Music]

59400:31:12,460 --> 00:31:18,620besides being unable to absorb water UFO

59500:31:16,308 --> 00:31:22,279affected soil cannot support seed

59600:31:18,619 --> 00:31:24,769germination and plant life soil taken a

59700:31:22,279 --> 00:31:28,269few feet away does support normal plant

59800:31:24,769 --> 00:31:31,369growth each of the pins in this map

599


00:31:28,269 --> 00:31:33,289represents a UFO landing site that has

60000:31:31,369 --> 00:31:35,750been reported to Ted Phillips in the

60100:31:33,289 --> 00:31:39,039last eight years there are over a

60200:31:35,750 --> 00:31:41,569hundred and fifty UFO landing sites

60300:31:39,039 --> 00:31:43,609represented on this map I've

60400:31:41,569 --> 00:31:46,129investigated a rather high percentage of

60500:31:43,609 --> 00:31:48,769these reports personally and have found

60600:31:46,130 --> 00:31:52,280a remarkable consistency in size and

60700:31:48,769 --> 00:31:54,980shape regarding the UFO scene and the

60800:31:52,279 --> 00:31:59,599ground effects resulting from that UFO

60900:31:54,980 --> 00:32:02,808landing we find imprints left evidently

61000:31:59,599 --> 00:32:04,750by the landing gear of the object some

61100:32:02,808 --> 00:32:09,170of these indicating tremendous pressure

61200:32:04,750 --> 00:32:11,839great weight generally found as three or

61300:32:09,170 --> 00:32:14,600


four in number arranged in either a

61400:32:11,839 --> 00:32:17,178triangular or rectangular pattern we

61500:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,980have effects on witnesses such as the

61600:32:17,179 --> 00:32:20,840witnesses suffering what appears to be a

61700:32:18,980 --> 00:32:23,120sunburn effect on their face neck and

61800:32:20,839 --> 00:32:26,000hands following the close approach of a

61900:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,879UFO extreme dryness of the nasal area

62000:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,759extreme dryness of the throat I have

62100:32:28,880 --> 00:32:35,500talked with nearly 2,000 people who have

62200:32:31,759 --> 00:32:37,400had a UFO experience and those people

62300:32:35,500 --> 00:32:39,230certainly have convinced me that

62400:32:37,400 --> 00:32:44,179something very real is going on

62500:32:39,230 --> 00:32:47,269something real is indeed going on no

62600:32:44,179 --> 00:32:50,570matter how vivid a hallucination is it

62700:32:47,269 --> 00:32:54,079cannot dehydrate soil


62800:32:50,569 --> 00:32:56,45080% of the descriptions of a UFO in Ted

62900:32:54,079 --> 00:32:59,569Phillips files are of a disc-shaped

63000:32:56,450 --> 00:33:03,558object between 10 and 35 feet in

63100:32:59,569 --> 00:33:06,740diameter over 400 of the landing cases

63200:33:03,558 --> 00:33:09,648in these files involve more than one

63300:33:06,740 --> 00:33:12,759witness observing a UFO for longer than

63400:33:09,648 --> 00:33:16,099one minute at a distance of less than

63500:33:12,759 --> 00:33:19,159250 feet we're talking about people

63600:33:16,099 --> 00:33:21,918police officers clergymen news men

63700:33:19,159 --> 00:33:24,200businesspeople people in all walks of

63800:33:21,919 --> 00:33:27,110life from all parts of the country who

63900:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,960have had real UFO experiences and in

64000:33:27,109 --> 00:33:31,699many cases a very close range the

64100:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,788interesting thing is that these people


64200:33:31,700 --> 00:33:37,519could lend us a murder could go into

64300:33:34,788 --> 00:33:40,460court testify to that effect put a man

64400:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,378away for life and yet those same people

64500:33:40,460 --> 00:33:44,990have a UFO experience and the testimony

64600:33:42,378 --> 00:33:47,869is no longer valid that's certainly a

64700:33:44,990 --> 00:33:49,730very strange set of double standards

64800:33:47,869 --> 00:33:52,759that we have in this country it's

64900:33:49,730 --> 00:33:57,579difficult to understand

65000:33:52,759 --> 00:34:00,210[Applause]

65100:33:57,579 --> 00:34:03,339[Music]

65200:34:00,210 --> 00:34:06,429another UFO investigator whose research

65300:34:03,339 --> 00:34:10,000has convinced him that UFOs are real is

65400:34:06,429 --> 00:34:13,659Colonel Wendell Stevens I need proof for

65500:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,579myself and I look for proof and

656


00:34:13,659 --> 00:34:17,530everything that happened the number of

65700:34:15,579 --> 00:34:20,769things happened in the in Alaska that

65800:34:17,530 --> 00:34:22,599had a lot a lot to my belief patterns

65900:34:20,769 --> 00:34:25,000but then when I got to investigating my

66000:34:22,599 --> 00:34:27,429own cases and could look people in the

66100:34:25,000 --> 00:34:31,780eye and I and I investigated some cases

66200:34:27,429 --> 00:34:33,490that were profound cases then I became

66300:34:31,780 --> 00:34:36,069convinced that there's something here

66400:34:33,489 --> 00:34:37,628and the something that's here at least a

66500:34:36,068 --> 00:34:40,898part of something that's here is

66600:34:37,628 --> 00:34:43,239physical it's tangible it's just like

66700:34:40,898 --> 00:34:45,429the car sitting out there in the street

66800:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,908you can go up and thump it the evidence

66900:34:45,429 --> 00:34:52,168is overwhelming that indeed something is

67000:34:48,909 --> 00:34:54,099


here and it is physical and it is

67100:34:52,168 --> 00:35:11,000extraterrestrial

67200:34:54,099 --> 00:35:13,409[Music]

67300:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,690the curse of lecturing all over the

67400:35:13,409 --> 00:35:18,000continent I have talked now to more than

67500:35:15,690 --> 00:35:19,59090 former military people who have told

67600:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,840me of excellent sightings that occurred

67700:35:19,590 --> 00:35:23,730while they were in the service and where

67800:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,380the data didn't go to the old Project

67900:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,820Blue Book which we were told was the

68000:35:25,380 --> 00:35:29,430only government group concerned with

68100:35:26,820 --> 00:35:31,019UFOs but instead typically went to the

68200:35:29,429 --> 00:35:33,149Aerospace Defense Command or the

68300:35:31,019 --> 00:35:34,289National Security Agency and where the

68400:35:33,150 --> 00:35:35,150security lid was clamped down


68500:35:34,289 --> 00:35:37,920immediately

68600:35:35,150 --> 00:35:42,780now I've heard so many of these stories

68700:35:37,920 --> 00:35:45,750that I'm either having to say that all

68800:35:42,780 --> 00:35:48,240these people are lying or that we're

68900:35:45,750 --> 00:35:50,730dealing with the cosmic Watergate cosmic

69000:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,429Watergate is an accurate way to describe

69100:35:50,730 --> 00:35:57,179the United States government's official

69200:35:53,429 --> 00:35:59,339reaction to UFOs the sharp difference

69300:35:57,179 --> 00:36:02,669between the FBI's public statements

69400:35:59,340 --> 00:36:05,820about UFOs and their real actions is a

69500:36:02,670 --> 00:36:08,460good example of this J Edgar Hoover

69600:36:05,820 --> 00:36:10,710wrote several letters stating that the

69700:36:08,460 --> 00:36:13,740investigation of unidentified flying

69800:36:10,710 --> 00:36:16,130objects is not and never has been within


69900:36:13,739 --> 00:36:20,129the jurisdiction of the FBI j.edgar

70000:36:16,130 --> 00:36:24,480hoover successfully kept the FBI's UFO

70100:36:20,130 --> 00:36:27,300file secret until 1976 when dr. Bruce

70200:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,519Maccabee received part of the FBI UFO

70300:36:27,300 --> 00:36:32,670file as a result of his Freedom of

70400:36:29,519 --> 00:36:35,130Information Act request here are the

70500:36:32,670 --> 00:36:37,889documents that were released there are

70600:36:35,130 --> 00:36:40,530over a thousand pages which provide

70700:36:37,889 --> 00:36:44,329information on the FBI's and the Air

70800:36:40,530 --> 00:36:47,250Force's secret investigations of UFOs

70900:36:44,329 --> 00:36:50,880this startling document was recovered

71000:36:47,250 --> 00:36:53,159from the FBI's secret file it is in j

71100:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,289edgar Hoover's own handwriting in

71200:36:53,159 --> 00:36:58,889response to a government request to

713


00:36:55,289 --> 00:37:02,608investigate UFOs mr. Hoover wrote and we

71400:36:58,889 --> 00:37:05,279quote I would do it but before agreeing

71500:37:02,608 --> 00:37:09,329to do it we must insist upon full access

71600:37:05,280 --> 00:37:12,180to disks recovered for instance in the

71700:37:09,329 --> 00:37:14,009LA case the army grabbed it and would

71800:37:12,179 --> 00:37:16,769not let us have it for cursory

71900:37:14,010 --> 00:37:20,130examination end quote

72000:37:16,769 --> 00:37:21,028this memo clearly indicates that mr.

72100:37:20,130 --> 00:37:23,818Hoover consider

72200:37:21,028 --> 00:37:27,268UFOs a very serious subject that should

72300:37:23,818 --> 00:37:29,159receive top-level security one of the

72400:37:27,268 --> 00:37:31,288events that may have contributed to the

72500:37:29,159 --> 00:37:34,619opinions reflected in mr. Hoover's memo

72600:37:31,289 --> 00:37:37,289is the apparent recovery of the wreckage

72700:37:34,619 --> 00:37:38,088


of a crashed UFO by the United States

72800:37:37,289 --> 00:37:42,329Army

72900:37:38,088 --> 00:37:46,168this happened on July 8th 1947 and

73000:37:42,329 --> 00:37:48,568involves major Jesse Marcel who was at

73100:37:46,168 --> 00:37:51,268that time the intelligence officer at

73200:37:48,568 --> 00:37:54,469Roswell New Mexico Army Air Force Base

73300:37:51,268 --> 00:37:57,508the only atomic bomb wing in the world

73400:37:54,469 --> 00:38:00,119major Marcel is a combat veteran who

73500:37:57,509 --> 00:38:04,108shot down five enemy planes in World War

73600:38:00,119 --> 00:38:07,259two a local rancher brought major Marcel

73700:38:04,108 --> 00:38:10,409to a crash site located on a remote area

73800:38:07,259 --> 00:38:13,889of his ranch they were astonished to

73900:38:10,409 --> 00:38:15,539find the vast amount of wreckage one

74000:38:13,889 --> 00:38:18,328thing I was certain of being familiar

74100:38:15,539 --> 00:38:20,969with all our activities that it was not


74200:38:18,329 --> 00:38:24,150a weather balloon nor an aircraft nor a

74300:38:20,969 --> 00:38:25,619missile it was something else which we

74400:38:24,150 --> 00:38:28,380didn't know what it was they were just

74500:38:25,619 --> 00:38:29,640frag but strewn all over the area in the

74600:38:28,380 --> 00:38:32,519area but three-quarters of a mile long

74700:38:29,639 --> 00:38:35,668and several hundred feet wide so we

74800:38:32,518 --> 00:38:38,129proceeded to pick up the parts a lot of

74900:38:35,668 --> 00:38:40,618it had a lot of little members with

75000:38:38,130 --> 00:38:42,509symbols that to be a call of

75100:38:40,619 --> 00:38:44,309hieroglyphics because I could not

75200:38:42,509 --> 00:38:47,818contribute them it could not be read

75300:38:44,309 --> 00:38:49,528they were just like symbols of something

75400:38:47,818 --> 00:38:52,130that meant something these little

75500:38:49,528 --> 00:38:55,469members could not be broken


75600:38:52,130 --> 00:38:58,048could not be burned I even tried to burn

75700:38:55,469 --> 00:38:59,699that would not burn see a stairway is

75800:38:58,048 --> 00:39:02,429nothing it's not in there thicker than

75900:38:59,699 --> 00:39:05,269tin fall in a pack of cigarettes said I

76000:39:02,429 --> 00:39:07,769tried the banister says it will not Bend

76100:39:05,268 --> 00:39:11,008says we did all we could to bend it it

76200:39:07,768 --> 00:39:12,748would not Bend said we even tried making

76300:39:11,009 --> 00:39:13,659a dent in it with a 16 pound sledge

76400:39:12,748 --> 00:39:16,199hammer

76500:39:13,659 --> 00:39:19,250this is still no dinner

76600:39:16,199 --> 00:39:19,250[Music]

76700:39:19,789 --> 00:39:25,009a woman working in a radio station in

76800:39:22,550 --> 00:39:27,769Albuquerque New Mexico started to

76900:39:25,010 --> 00:39:30,080transmit on a news wire the story of

770


00:39:27,769 --> 00:39:33,949nature Marcel's recovery of a crashed

77100:39:30,079 --> 00:39:36,799flying saucer the FBI interrupted that

77200:39:33,949 --> 00:39:40,639communication with a statement do not

77300:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,380continue this transmission an official

77400:39:40,639 --> 00:39:45,019army press release was put out

77500:39:42,380 --> 00:39:48,320announcing the capture of portions of a

77600:39:45,019 --> 00:39:50,929flying saucer major Marcel escorted the

77700:39:48,320 --> 00:39:54,710wreckage on a b-29 to Carswell Air Force

77800:39:50,929 --> 00:39:57,440Base the press was waiting for him but

77900:39:54,710 --> 00:40:01,010he was told not to say anything by his

78000:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,750commander general ramey the newsmen saw

78100:40:01,010 --> 00:40:05,300very little deputies where a small

78200:40:02,750 --> 00:40:07,280portion of it and none of the important

78300:40:05,300 --> 00:40:09,200things like these are members that have

78400:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,570


these hieroglyphics or or markings on

78500:40:09,199 --> 00:40:14,149they wanted me to tell them about it and

78600:40:11,570 --> 00:40:16,130I couldn't say anything and when a jar

78700:40:14,150 --> 00:40:19,010okay men he told me not to say anything

78800:40:16,130 --> 00:40:20,809that he would have it the reason that

78900:40:19,010 --> 00:40:24,080this story has remained hidden from the

79000:40:20,809 --> 00:40:26,059public for over 30 years is that general

79100:40:24,079 --> 00:40:28,219Ramey released a cover story at that

79200:40:26,059 --> 00:40:31,880point saying that the crashed flying

79300:40:28,219 --> 00:40:33,829saucer was really a weather balloon the

79400:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,800press around the world accepted that

79500:40:33,829 --> 00:40:37,858statement

79600:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,859[Music]

79700:40:37,960 --> 00:40:44,260the documented testimony of one of major

79800:40:40,599 --> 00:40:46,390Marcel's b-29 key measures reveals that


79900:40:44,260 --> 00:40:49,450the UFO wreckage was removed from their

80000:40:46,389 --> 00:40:52,058b-29 by armed guards and placed on

80100:40:49,449 --> 00:40:54,818another aircraft this seems rather

80200:40:52,059 --> 00:40:57,490strange treatment for the wreckage

80300:40:54,818 --> 00:41:00,099more than two dozen people in New Mexico

80400:40:57,489 --> 00:41:03,848associated with the UFO related events

80500:41:00,099 --> 00:41:06,579of July 1947 have been interviewed we

80600:41:03,849 --> 00:41:11,950have verified every statement made by

80700:41:06,579 --> 00:41:13,150Jesse Marcel a well-respected New

80800:41:11,949 --> 00:41:15,578Mexican engineer

80900:41:13,150 --> 00:41:18,460Barney Barnett has reported that a

81000:41:15,579 --> 00:41:22,059flying saucer crashed just outside of

81100:41:18,460 --> 00:41:24,940Socorro New Mexico in early July in 1947

81200:41:22,059 --> 00:41:27,519since this is the same date and very


81300:41:24,940 --> 00:41:29,950close to the location where major Marcel

81400:41:27,518 --> 00:41:32,409recovered a crashed UFO it seems

81500:41:29,949 --> 00:41:35,108probable that the crashed UFO mr.

81600:41:32,409 --> 00:41:37,858Barnett reported is a larger piece of

81700:41:35,108 --> 00:41:41,469the crashed UFO major Marcel recovered

81800:41:37,858 --> 00:41:44,710mr. Barnett saw a number of dead alien

81900:41:41,469 --> 00:41:46,088bodies extracted from that wreckage he

82000:41:44,710 --> 00:41:48,818was accompanied by members of an

82100:41:46,088 --> 00:41:51,489archaeological expedition a military

82200:41:48,818 --> 00:41:54,159group came along swore everybody to

82300:41:51,489 --> 00:41:57,868secrecy and carried off the saucer and

82400:41:54,159 --> 00:41:57,868the dead alien bodies

82500:42:00,969 --> 00:42:08,088between 1947 and 1952 there were more

82600:42:05,780 --> 00:42:09,880flying saucer sightings in New Mexico

827


00:42:08,088 --> 00:42:11,769than in any other state

82800:42:09,880 --> 00:42:15,050[Music]

82900:42:11,769 --> 00:42:18,259this document recovered from the FBI's

83000:42:15,050 --> 00:42:21,349secret file shows that during this time

83100:42:18,260 --> 00:42:24,859period there were over 150 sightings of

83200:42:21,349 --> 00:42:27,530UFOs over sensitive US military

83300:42:24,858 --> 00:42:29,960installations many of these sightings

83400:42:27,530 --> 00:42:32,450fit the standard disc shaped UFO

83500:42:29,960 --> 00:42:37,010description and were reported by more

83600:42:32,449 --> 00:42:39,828than one reliable witness New Mexico was

83700:42:37,010 --> 00:42:42,710the state where all post-world war ii

83800:42:39,829 --> 00:42:45,050rocket shots were fired it is also the

83900:42:42,710 --> 00:42:51,260state where the first atom bomb was

84000:42:45,050 --> 00:42:53,810developed and tested one logical

84100:42:51,260 --> 00:42:56,780


explanation for this large number of UFO

84200:42:53,809 --> 00:42:58,759sightings is that an alien space

84300:42:56,780 --> 00:43:01,310traveling culture was observing the

84400:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,650earth without making official contact

84500:43:01,309 --> 00:43:05,079and gathering

84600:43:02,650 --> 00:43:07,030very intelligence on the earth so that

84700:43:05,079 --> 00:43:11,519they will be prepared for the day when

84800:43:07,030 --> 00:43:11,519we leave this planet and move into space

84900:43:15,019 --> 00:43:20,119the best-known government responses to

85000:43:17,940 --> 00:43:24,000the UFO question with a much-publicized

85100:43:20,119 --> 00:43:26,579US Air Force's Project Blue Book and the

85200:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,199Condon report in spite of the air

85300:43:26,579 --> 00:43:30,869force's public statements to the

85400:43:28,199 --> 00:43:33,659contrary a close examination of the

85500:43:30,869 --> 00:43:37,289evidence in these reports indicates that


85600:43:33,659 --> 00:43:39,539some UFOs are extraterrestrial spaceman

85700:43:37,289 --> 00:43:42,630that the purpose of these reports was to

85800:43:39,539 --> 00:43:47,519act as public relations cover-ups rather

85900:43:42,630 --> 00:43:50,519than scientific studies during the past

86000:43:47,519 --> 00:43:52,820ten years I've talked with over 2,000

86100:43:50,519 --> 00:43:58,610military personnel who have

86200:43:52,820 --> 00:44:02,190confidentially relate cases involving

86300:43:58,610 --> 00:44:04,140not only landings very near or on

86400:44:02,190 --> 00:44:06,150military installations in this country

86500:44:04,139 --> 00:44:09,929but also cases involving physical

86600:44:06,150 --> 00:44:11,820residue and one instance an individual

86700:44:09,929 --> 00:44:14,190assured me that he had personally seen

86800:44:11,820 --> 00:44:16,170to the transmission of this report to

86900:44:14,190 --> 00:44:18,030Project Blue Book and this was a report


87000:44:16,170 --> 00:44:21,180involving a landing and quite a number

87100:44:18,030 --> 00:44:23,880of witnesses security personnel and if

87200:44:21,179 --> 00:44:25,789one is to check the Bluebook files the

87300:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,860files that have been open to the public

87400:44:25,789 --> 00:44:31,800those cases are not there not a single

87500:44:28,860 --> 00:44:34,230case Colonel Stevens gave us a good

87600:44:31,800 --> 00:44:37,200explanation as to why military people

87700:44:34,230 --> 00:44:39,449and former military people do not speak

87800:44:37,199 --> 00:44:42,750out about their classified experiences

87900:44:39,449 --> 00:44:45,989with UFOs now when a when a person

88000:44:42,750 --> 00:44:48,929working in a security field leaves the

88100:44:45,989 --> 00:44:51,259field he's reminded of his oaths and

88200:44:48,929 --> 00:44:53,339he's sworn not to reveal information

88300:44:51,260 --> 00:44:54,960handled officially during the time of

884


00:44:53,340 --> 00:44:56,160his tenure in this that's particular

88500:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,929security thing and he's warned of the

88600:44:56,159 --> 00:45:00,089penalties it's a ten thousand dollar

88700:44:57,929 --> 00:45:02,339fine and ten years in prison and for in

88800:45:00,090 --> 00:45:04,559in extreme cases perfect sure of all pay

88900:45:02,340 --> 00:45:07,380and allowances do or ever to become due

89000:45:04,559 --> 00:45:09,420and so it's hard to find people who are

89100:45:07,380 --> 00:45:13,369not vulnerable who don't have something

89200:45:09,420 --> 00:45:17,269to lose by telling what happened to them

89300:45:13,369 --> 00:45:19,430of two Iranian jets with the UFO gives a

89400:45:17,268 --> 00:45:22,189glimpse of how the government really

89500:45:19,429 --> 00:45:25,848handles good quality UFO military

89600:45:22,190 --> 00:45:29,750sightings the lead fighter tried to

89700:45:25,849 --> 00:45:32,190intercept an extremely large bright UFO

89800:45:29,750 --> 00:45:34,400


[Music]

89900:45:32,190 --> 00:45:36,588as he closed with

90000:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,990his electrical missile control and

90100:45:36,588 --> 00:45:42,090communication systems malfunction

90200:45:38,989 --> 00:45:42,089[Music]

90300:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,219he turned away from the UFO and shortly

90400:45:51,088 --> 00:45:54,019thereafter his systems began to function

90500:45:53,219 --> 00:45:57,710normally again

90600:45:54,019 --> 00:46:01,519[Music]

90700:45:57,710 --> 00:46:03,559the White House the CIA and several

90800:46:01,519 --> 00:46:06,320other defense intelligence agencies

90900:46:03,559 --> 00:46:09,590receive the classified letter describing

91000:46:06,320 --> 00:46:12,470the case in detail this memo written by

91100:46:09,590 --> 00:46:16,700General Carroll H Bolender in 1969

91200:46:12,469 --> 00:46:19,730became public in 1979 and revealed that


91300:46:16,699 --> 00:46:21,069reports of unidentified flying objects

91400:46:19,730 --> 00:46:25,730which could affect national security

91500:46:21,070 --> 00:46:28,309were not part of the Bluebook system it

91600:46:25,730 --> 00:46:31,429is clear that the government regards

91700:46:28,309 --> 00:46:33,590UFOs as a matter of national security

91800:46:31,429 --> 00:46:37,699because they can fly rings around our

91900:46:33,590 --> 00:46:40,130conventional jets or Rockets the first

92000:46:37,699 --> 00:46:42,619country to be able to duplicate the

92100:46:40,130 --> 00:46:45,608behavior of UFOs could attack any other

92200:46:42,619 --> 00:46:48,048country in the world with absolute in

92300:46:45,608 --> 00:46:50,838you see the single most important aspect

92400:46:48,048 --> 00:46:53,268of a flying saucer from a government or

92500:46:50,838 --> 00:46:55,998military viewpoint is its potential for

92600:46:53,268 --> 00:46:57,649military utilization the first country


92700:46:55,998 --> 00:47:00,429to be able to duplicate the behavior of

92800:46:57,650 --> 00:47:04,059flying saucer will rule the planet

92900:47:00,429 --> 00:47:04,059[Music]

93000:47:07,219 --> 00:47:14,799[Music]

93100:47:10,320 --> 00:47:17,530these recently released secret CIA UFO

93200:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,660files indicate intense government

93300:47:17,530 --> 00:47:23,890interest in the military potential of

93400:47:19,659 --> 00:47:25,839UFOs these files establish that the CIA

93500:47:23,889 --> 00:47:36,519had agents all around the world

93600:47:25,840 --> 00:47:38,130gathering information on UFOs this

93700:47:36,519 --> 00:47:40,840interview with senator Barry Goldwater

93800:47:38,130 --> 00:47:42,970provides an even clearer view of the

93900:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,970government's concern about the military

94000:47:42,969 --> 00:47:47,980potential of UFOs senator Goldwater was

941


00:47:45,969 --> 00:47:51,489the Republican candidate for president

94200:47:47,980 --> 00:47:54,309in 1964 and is a Major General in the

94300:47:51,489 --> 00:47:57,789United States Air Force Reserve we have

94400:47:54,309 --> 00:48:00,849verified the following quotes Air Force

94500:47:57,789 --> 00:48:03,880Navy and commercial pilots have revealed

94600:48:00,849 --> 00:48:06,489to me cases when a UFO would fly near

94700:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,460them right off the plane's wing and then

94800:48:06,489 --> 00:48:13,419just zoom away at incredible speeds

94900:48:09,460 --> 00:48:15,159I asked general Curtis LeMay who for

95000:48:13,420 --> 00:48:17,500years was head of the Strategic Air

95100:48:15,159 --> 00:48:21,909Command for permission to check into the

95200:48:17,500 --> 00:48:26,139files and he told me hell no and don't

95300:48:21,909 --> 00:48:28,569ask me again I think some highly secret

95400:48:26,139 --> 00:48:31,059government UFO investigations are going

95500:48:28,570 --> 00:48:33,670


on that we don't know about and probably

95600:48:31,059 --> 00:48:37,630never will unless the Air Force

95700:48:33,670 --> 00:48:40,180discloses them someday soon someone is

95800:48:37,630 --> 00:48:43,809going to have strong UFO evidence that

95900:48:40,179 --> 00:48:46,539can't be explained away and senator

96000:48:43,809 --> 00:48:49,269goldwater's quote there is already

96100:48:46,539 --> 00:48:51,579strong evidence that can't be explained

96200:48:49,269 --> 00:48:55,210away in senator Barry Goldwater's own

96300:48:51,579 --> 00:48:57,159home state of Arizona the evidence

96400:48:55,210 --> 00:49:00,579revolves around an incident that took

96500:48:57,159 --> 00:49:03,069place in the city Aves National Forest

96600:49:00,579 --> 00:49:05,739it was in this location that a young

96700:49:03,070 --> 00:49:10,510woodcutter named Travis Walton was

96800:49:05,739 --> 00:49:14,319abducted by a UFO the UFO was witnessed

96900:49:10,510 --> 00:49:17,350by six of his fellow workers at Travis's


97000:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,530home in snowflake Arizona we interviewed

97100:49:17,349 --> 00:49:22,929him and one of the witnesses to the UFO

97200:49:19,530 --> 00:49:25,240Mike Rogers there were seven of us on

97300:49:22,929 --> 00:49:28,119the way home from work we were riding

97400:49:25,239 --> 00:49:31,000down the dirt road in a pickup and we

97500:49:28,119 --> 00:49:34,150saw an object hovering off to the side

97600:49:31,000 --> 00:49:40,329of the road it was a glowing disk shaped

97700:49:34,150 --> 00:49:43,690object it was about 90 feet away it was

97800:49:40,329 --> 00:49:45,610hovering about I'd say 15 to 20 feet off

97900:49:43,690 --> 00:49:47,920the ground and I got out of the truck

98000:49:45,610 --> 00:49:50,260and went closer I wanted to get a closer

98100:49:47,920 --> 00:49:54,010look at it I realized for the first time

98200:49:50,260 --> 00:49:57,160what what he was doing and I realized

98300:49:54,010 --> 00:50:01,990that it was dangerous I expected it you


98400:49:57,159 --> 00:50:04,449know fly away when I got closer but

98500:50:01,989 --> 00:50:07,089instead when I went when I got up there

98600:50:04,449 --> 00:50:11,799it started to move and and to make a

98700:50:07,090 --> 00:50:14,200loud sound which scared me I yelled at

98800:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,539him and I told him you know get the hell

98900:50:14,199 --> 00:50:18,549away from there they raised up and

99000:50:16,539 --> 00:50:20,009turned to go and then all of a sudden

99100:50:18,550 --> 00:50:24,400the object

99200:50:20,010 --> 00:50:28,890apparently blasted him with some sort of

99300:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,889array or both of light or something

99400:50:29,139 --> 00:50:36,639I felt a numbing shock and lost

99500:50:33,699 --> 00:50:38,578consciousness and that was the last I

99600:50:36,639 --> 00:50:42,219knew until I woke up aboard the craft

99700:50:38,579 --> 00:50:44,740when I saw this bright blinding light I

998


00:50:42,219 --> 00:50:48,038turned back just in time to see Travis

99900:50:44,739 --> 00:50:50,318flying back through the air he hit the

100000:50:48,039 --> 00:50:54,160ground about ten feet or so from where

100100:50:50,318 --> 00:50:57,909he had been standing at that point with

100200:50:54,159 --> 00:51:00,250the the blast at the saucer had given

100300:50:57,909 --> 00:51:02,199him it was such an incredible thing but

100400:51:00,250 --> 00:51:05,199just unbelievable I was in an instant

100500:51:02,199 --> 00:51:08,409panic the guys behind me somebody says

100600:51:05,199 --> 00:51:12,098get the hell out of here so I hit the

100700:51:08,409 --> 00:51:13,899gas and we took off down the road Mike

100800:51:12,099 --> 00:51:16,920Rogers and the other five witnesses

100900:51:13,900 --> 00:51:19,720returned only to find Travis missing

101000:51:16,920 --> 00:51:22,630after they told their astounding story

101100:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,318to the police they came under suspicion

101200:51:22,630 --> 00:51:26,079


of murder

101300:51:23,318 --> 00:51:27,670an intense search for Travis Walton

101400:51:26,079 --> 00:51:30,880proceeded for three days

101500:51:27,670 --> 00:51:33,608using a large Posse dogs and helicopters

101600:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,970they were unable to find him or any

101700:51:33,608 --> 00:51:39,278signs of where he was finally it was

101800:51:36,969 --> 00:51:42,518suggested that the six witnesses take a

101900:51:39,278 --> 00:51:46,048polygraph test to establish the truth or

102000:51:42,518 --> 00:51:46,048fallacy of their story

102100:51:46,170 --> 00:51:49,650you told them you know we'll take

102200:51:47,190 --> 00:51:52,590polygraph tests we'll we'll take sodium

102300:51:49,650 --> 00:51:54,360pentathol hypnosis anything you can give

102400:51:52,590 --> 00:51:57,870us because this thing really happened

102500:51:54,360 --> 00:52:00,030and and we don't like this thing about

102600:51:57,869 --> 00:52:02,279you accusing us of murder which several


102700:52:00,030 --> 00:52:04,890of them had openly arrangements were

102800:52:02,280 --> 00:52:07,530made for sigh Gilson a highly qualified

102900:52:04,889 --> 00:52:09,750polygraph examiner who was a member of

103000:52:07,530 --> 00:52:12,240the Arizona state polygraph Association

103100:52:09,750 --> 00:52:14,489to conduct the polygraphs on the six

103200:52:12,239 --> 00:52:17,399witnesses to Travis Waltons UFO

103300:52:14,489 --> 00:52:19,259encounter the utmost care in

103400:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,720administering these lie-detector tests

103500:52:19,260 --> 00:52:23,310was exercised because the men were under

103600:52:21,719 --> 00:52:28,409suspicion of murder

103700:52:23,309 --> 00:52:30,239once the test got underway he started

103800:52:28,409 --> 00:52:34,289changing his mind very quickly after he

103900:52:30,239 --> 00:52:37,259tested about three of the six he seemed

104000:52:34,289 --> 00:52:39,659to be acting differently by the time he


104100:52:37,260 --> 00:52:42,660had tested all of us he seemed to be a

104200:52:39,659 --> 00:52:45,690believer I talked to him after the tests

104300:52:42,659 --> 00:52:48,949and he indicated to me that that

104400:52:45,690 --> 00:52:52,019apparently he was wrong

104500:52:48,949 --> 00:52:57,179unofficially he said that he believed

104600:52:52,019 --> 00:52:59,969that we had told the truth because five

104700:52:57,179 --> 00:53:02,969of us passed the test he wrote in his

104800:52:59,969 --> 00:53:07,429report that we had told the truth that

104900:53:02,969 --> 00:53:07,429apparently there had been a UFO

105000:53:09,900 --> 00:53:14,778[Applause]

105100:53:11,858 --> 00:53:17,869this was a very emotional thing for

105200:53:14,778 --> 00:53:21,349Travis's family and emotional for us

105300:53:17,869 --> 00:53:23,930Travis was my best friend and our whole

105400:53:21,349 --> 00:53:25,969lives have been disrupted by this we

1055


00:53:23,929 --> 00:53:28,608wondered if we would ever see him again

105600:53:25,969 --> 00:53:33,469when I regained consciousness I was

105700:53:28,608 --> 00:53:36,858laying on my back I I came to slowly I

105800:53:33,469 --> 00:53:40,130was in a lot of pain in my head and

105900:53:36,858 --> 00:53:42,889chest area at first I thought I was in a

106000:53:40,130 --> 00:53:45,410hospital but when I could finally see

106100:53:42,889 --> 00:53:50,088Ike I saw these beings standing over me

106200:53:45,409 --> 00:53:51,798and that I just became hysterical I was

106300:53:50,088 --> 00:53:55,699about five feet tall

106400:53:51,798 --> 00:53:59,358they had no hair no eyelashes eyebrows a

106500:53:55,699 --> 00:54:01,940very large heads very large eyes the

106600:53:59,358 --> 00:54:05,958rest of their features nose mouth and

106700:54:01,940 --> 00:54:11,170ears were small and they were very white

106800:54:05,958 --> 00:54:16,728looking I knocked him away from me and

106900:54:11,170 --> 00:54:22,309


jumped off of the table there and they

107000:54:16,728 --> 00:54:24,288started come toward me my grabbed an

107100:54:22,309 --> 00:54:26,590object off of a bench there and

107200:54:24,289 --> 00:54:30,190threatened him

107300:54:26,590 --> 00:54:33,800[Music]

107400:54:30,190 --> 00:54:38,450they stopped and turned around and left

107500:54:33,800 --> 00:54:43,510the room I was afraid they'd come back

107600:54:38,449 --> 00:54:45,980so I left there looking for a way out I

107700:54:43,510 --> 00:54:49,370went into another room where there was a

107800:54:45,980 --> 00:54:51,889chair there was some kind of projection

107900:54:49,369 --> 00:54:53,719or some kind of a viewing thing in this

108000:54:51,889 --> 00:54:57,589room where you could see a map with

108100:54:53,719 --> 00:54:59,299stars a man came in while I was trying

108200:54:57,590 --> 00:55:04,070to find a way out there

108300:54:59,300 --> 00:55:06,590and this was a human looking person they


108400:55:04,070 --> 00:55:09,530had passing a crowd this individual and

108500:55:06,590 --> 00:55:13,100on earth it was bigger than me taller

108600:55:09,530 --> 00:55:18,140and more muscular very large individual

108700:55:13,099 --> 00:55:22,429I went up and tried to talk to this guy

108800:55:18,139 --> 00:55:25,219and he didn't answer me he led me

108900:55:22,429 --> 00:55:27,619outside of this craft that I was in

109000:55:25,219 --> 00:55:31,730which was apparently parked inside of a

109100:55:27,619 --> 00:55:34,429large room or building or larger craft

109200:55:31,730 --> 00:55:39,369and led me out of this room into another

109300:55:34,429 --> 00:55:44,960room were some other beings like himself

109400:55:39,369 --> 00:55:48,380put me unconscious when I regained

109500:55:44,960 --> 00:55:51,800consciousness I found myself laying on

109600:55:48,380 --> 00:55:54,019the roadway that I saw a craft hovering

109700:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,860there that just sat there for a second


109800:55:54,019 --> 00:56:00,980and just shot straight up that's the

109900:55:57,860 --> 00:56:03,260last I've seen oh I ran down into the

110000:56:00,980 --> 00:56:06,019town man called my family and they came

110100:56:03,260 --> 00:56:08,660and got me when I did hear that he had

110200:56:06,019 --> 00:56:10,579been returned yet it was almost as

110300:56:08,659 --> 00:56:13,299unbelievable as the original thing

110400:56:10,579 --> 00:56:16,250because he'd been gone so long

110500:56:13,300 --> 00:56:18,470one of the biggest shocks I had to deal

110600:56:16,250 --> 00:56:21,230with when I was returned was finding out

110700:56:18,469 --> 00:56:26,480that this brief period of time had

110800:56:21,230 --> 00:56:27,769somehow taken over five days when I

110900:56:26,480 --> 00:56:32,150found out I've been gone for that long

111000:56:27,769 --> 00:56:35,090it was it was just you know blew me away

111100:56:32,150 --> 00:56:38,240and my my brother you know told me about

1112


00:56:35,090 --> 00:56:40,160it then I was stunned and he asked me

111300:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,979feel my face and that had I had a you

111400:56:40,159 --> 00:56:45,379know a week's growth and I was really

111500:56:42,980 --> 00:56:47,659took my mind just reeled at that because

111600:56:45,380 --> 00:56:50,840as far as I knew it was the same night

111700:56:47,659 --> 00:56:56,659the thing that bothered me most about

111800:56:50,840 --> 00:56:58,579the whole experience was those eyes when

111900:56:56,659 --> 00:57:03,230they looked at me they just seemed like

112000:56:58,579 --> 00:57:05,630they were looking right through me you

112100:57:03,230 --> 00:57:15,440just can't understand how it would be if

112200:57:05,630 --> 00:57:18,829it were just right there after his

112300:57:15,440 --> 00:57:22,070return Travis Walton also passed a

112400:57:18,829 --> 00:57:27,230polygraph test verifying the truth of

112500:57:22,070 --> 00:57:29,450his UFO experience to obtain an expert

112600:57:27,230 --> 00:57:31,579


opinion on what conclusions could be

112700:57:29,449 --> 00:57:34,879drawn from the polygraph tests in the

112800:57:31,579 --> 00:57:37,699Travis Walton case we interviewed Edward

112900:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,360Gelb president of the American polygraph

113000:57:37,699 --> 00:57:43,309Association hundreds of police

113100:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,130departments and corporations throughout

113200:57:43,309 --> 00:57:48,489the world utilized the polygraph to

113300:57:46,130 --> 00:57:52,250separate truth from deception

113400:57:48,489 --> 00:57:54,409the 94% accuracy of the polygraph has

113500:57:52,250 --> 00:57:56,539been well documented not only in

113600:57:54,409 --> 00:57:59,389real-life situations as we've discussed

113700:57:56,539 --> 00:58:00,279here but in laboratory and university

113800:57:59,389 --> 00:58:03,650studies that have been conducted

113900:58:00,280 --> 00:58:06,590throughout the world the odds against

114000:58:03,650 --> 00:58:09,590six people successfully deceiving a


114100:58:06,590 --> 00:58:13,120trained polygraph examiner on a single

114200:58:09,590 --> 00:58:15,800issue are over a million to one

114300:58:13,119 --> 00:58:18,659the polygraph evidence in the Travis

114400:58:15,800 --> 00:58:22,640Walton case is strong enough to stand as

114500:58:18,659 --> 00:58:22,639proof in a court of law in many states

114600:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,590in order to understand where the beings

114700:58:26,579 --> 00:58:31,500that kidnapped Travis Walton may have

114800:58:28,590 --> 00:58:36,630originated we must first understand our

114900:58:31,500 --> 00:58:39,719place in the universe our Sun is only

115000:58:36,630 --> 00:58:45,119one of over a hundred and fifty billion

115100:58:39,719 --> 00:58:48,239stars in our galaxy the Milky Way there

115200:58:45,119 --> 00:58:54,059are billions and billions of galaxies in

115300:58:48,239 --> 00:58:56,909the universe if only one star in every

115400:58:54,059 --> 00:59:00,360million has planets that can support


115500:58:56,909 --> 00:59:02,009life then there are hundreds of billions

115600:59:00,360 --> 00:59:06,180of life-supporting planets in the

115700:59:02,010 --> 00:59:09,030universe within 55 light-years of our

115800:59:06,179 --> 00:59:15,809own solar system there are thousands of

115900:59:09,030 --> 00:59:18,720stars 46 of these near neighbors are

116000:59:15,809 --> 00:59:22,009similar to the Sun and can be expected

116100:59:18,719 --> 00:59:24,480to have planets and life especially if

116200:59:22,010 --> 00:59:27,540colonization and migration have been

116300:59:24,480 --> 00:59:33,030going on for part of their ten billion

116400:59:27,539 --> 00:59:35,610year lives by examining our own advanced

116500:59:33,030 --> 00:59:38,280technology closely we can get some

116600:59:35,610 --> 00:59:40,559indications as to how the UFO that

116700:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,870kidnapped Travis Walton may have been

116800:59:40,559 --> 00:59:46,320propelled and how it could have traveled

1169


00:59:42,869 --> 00:59:48,599through space to the earth the

117000:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,990technology to travel to nearby stars in

117100:59:48,599 --> 00:59:54,119our own galaxy now exists just as the

117200:59:51,989 --> 00:59:57,500basic technology do go to the moon

117300:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,500existed shortly after world

117400:59:57,659 --> 01:00:04,420technological progress is the result new

117501:00:00,219 --> 01:00:07,000systems and not perfecting old ones we

117601:00:04,420 --> 01:00:10,300cross the Atlantic Ocean 100 times

117701:00:07,000 --> 01:00:12,579faster now than 200 years ago not

117801:00:10,300 --> 01:00:15,460because we've got boats that go 100

117901:00:12,579 --> 01:00:17,100times faster but because we now have jet

118001:00:15,460 --> 01:00:19,619airliners

118101:00:17,099 --> 01:00:21,960today we take jet airliners for granted

118201:00:19,619 --> 01:00:25,099but 200 years ago they would have

118301:00:21,960 --> 01:00:28,349


sounded like the wildest kind of fantasy

118401:00:25,099 --> 01:00:30,900it took Magellan two years to sail

118501:00:28,349 --> 01:00:33,630around the planet and it only takes a

118601:00:30,900 --> 01:00:35,900modern astronaut 90 minutes to circle

118701:00:33,630 --> 01:00:35,900the earth

118801:00:38,539 --> 01:00:43,789the Apollo project not only proved that

118901:00:41,449 --> 01:00:45,739it is possible for mankind to leave the

119001:00:43,789 --> 01:00:48,949earth and visit our nearest neighbor in

119101:00:45,739 --> 01:00:51,439space the moon it revealed that even the

119201:00:48,949 --> 01:00:53,689most prestigious scientists often

119301:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,490underestimate the ability of human

119401:00:53,690 --> 01:00:56,950ingenuity to accomplish what is

119501:00:55,489 --> 01:01:01,309considered impossible

119601:00:56,949 --> 01:01:03,679in 1957 Lee de Forest the inventor of

119701:01:01,309 --> 01:01:06,500the vacuum tube and father of modern


119801:01:03,679 --> 01:01:08,599electronics stated that no matter what

119901:01:06,500 --> 01:01:10,880the inventions of the future man would

120001:01:08,599 --> 01:01:14,329never land on the moon and bring back

120101:01:10,880 --> 01:01:16,309samples to earth just twelve years after

120201:01:14,329 --> 01:01:18,199that millions of people on the earth

120301:01:16,309 --> 01:01:22,449were able to watch the first moon

120401:01:18,199 --> 01:01:22,449landing on television as it happened

120501:01:23,679 --> 01:01:29,000when trying to understand UFOs it is

120601:01:27,079 --> 01:01:31,250important to be careful about using the

120701:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,170word impossible because the history of

120801:01:31,250 --> 01:01:34,940our own technology shows that

120901:01:33,170 --> 01:01:37,039intelligent beings have a habit of

121001:01:34,940 --> 01:01:42,019accomplishing what was once considered

121101:01:37,039 --> 01:01:44,239impossible today some people consider it


121201:01:42,019 --> 01:01:46,699impossible to travel the vast distances

121301:01:44,239 --> 01:01:49,339between stars the state of current

121401:01:46,699 --> 01:01:52,669technology already indicates that their

121501:01:49,340 --> 01:01:54,680ideas will soon be as obsolete as mr. de

121601:01:52,670 --> 01:01:57,260forests statement that man would never

121701:01:54,679 --> 01:01:59,179land on the moon we could build

121801:01:57,260 --> 01:02:01,250nuclear-powered starships that could

121901:01:59,179 --> 01:02:04,509travel in space just the way this

122001:02:01,250 --> 01:02:04,510submarine travels on

122101:02:04,739 --> 01:02:10,118these starships to travel to nearby

122201:02:07,179 --> 01:02:12,940stars and return within the lifetime of

122301:02:10,119 --> 01:02:15,608a man they would be powered by nuclear

122401:02:12,940 --> 01:02:18,099fusion the energy source of the Sun and

122501:02:15,608 --> 01:02:25,119the same nuclear process used in the

1226


01:02:18,099 --> 01:02:27,160hydrogen bomb an advanced starship

122701:02:25,119 --> 01:02:29,230capable of traveling close to the speed

122801:02:27,159 --> 01:02:31,598of light could take advantage of

122901:02:29,230 --> 01:02:35,679Einstein's law of relativity which has

123001:02:31,599 --> 01:02:37,210now been experimentally verified as the

123101:02:35,679 --> 01:02:39,250spaceship approached the speed of light

123201:02:37,210 --> 01:02:42,429the objects that they approached would

123301:02:39,250 --> 01:02:46,679take on a red glow time would begin to

123401:02:42,429 --> 01:02:49,960slow down for the crew when they reached

123501:02:46,679 --> 01:02:53,40999.999% of the speed of light they could

123601:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,608travel to a star 37 light-years away in

123701:02:53,409 --> 01:02:57,549just two months

123801:02:54,608 --> 01:03:00,519pilot time the people that they left

123901:02:57,550 --> 01:03:02,410behind would be 37 years older but the

124001:03:00,519 --> 01:03:07,269


crew of this starship would have aged

124101:03:02,409 --> 01:03:09,460only two months the space shuttle will

124201:03:07,269 --> 01:03:11,400be able to lift portions of a giant

124301:03:09,460 --> 01:03:13,559nuclear fission or

124401:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,539fusion rocket into orbit around the

124501:03:13,559 --> 01:03:17,579earth where it could be assembled from

124601:03:15,539 --> 01:03:31,049there it could be launched to other

124701:03:17,579 --> 01:03:33,839solar systems the Space Shuttle will

124801:03:31,048 --> 01:03:34,619also be used to build and supply Space

124901:03:33,838 --> 01:03:40,279Station's

125001:03:34,619 --> 01:03:43,079[Music]

125101:03:40,280 --> 01:03:45,960astronauts have already stayed in space

125201:03:43,079 --> 01:03:48,000for five months we are rapidly

125301:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,280approaching a time when they will be a

125401:03:48,000 --> 01:03:54,230permanent space colony and there will


125501:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,230always be Earthlings in space

125601:03:56,500 --> 01:03:59,599[Music]

125701:03:59,900 --> 01:04:18,358[Applause]

125801:04:14,750 --> 01:04:20,730our civilization on earth is destined to

125901:04:18,358 --> 01:04:25,048become a space traveling culture and our

126001:04:20,730 --> 01:04:26,670space age is less than 25 years old who

126101:04:25,048 --> 01:04:28,739could possibly estimate the

126201:04:26,670 --> 01:04:30,990technological limits of a space

126301:04:28,739 --> 01:04:37,108traveling culture that is a billion

126401:04:30,989 --> 01:04:39,328years older than our own this UFO caused

126501:04:37,108 --> 01:04:41,278severe static on the photographer's

126601:04:39,329 --> 01:04:43,140transistor radio as it maneuvered

126701:04:41,278 --> 01:04:46,000overhead

126801:04:43,139 --> 01:04:49,098[Laughter]


126901:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,099[Music]

127001:04:50,239 --> 01:04:55,379reports of UFOs causing magnetic

127101:04:53,070 --> 01:04:57,440disturbance such as the interruption of

127201:04:55,380 --> 01:04:59,760television and radio transmissions and

127301:04:57,440 --> 01:05:03,090interference with the electrical systems

127401:04:59,760 --> 01:05:06,240of cars are common this electrical

127501:05:03,090 --> 01:05:09,000interference strongly suggests that at

127601:05:06,239 --> 01:05:11,369least one UFO atmospheric propulsion

127701:05:09,000 --> 01:05:15,239system is based on some kind of

127801:05:11,369 --> 01:05:16,799electromagnetic propulsion the first

127901:05:15,239 --> 01:05:19,079successful test of an electromagnetic

128001:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,200propulsion system was conducted on earth

128101:05:19,079 --> 01:05:25,409in 1966 when this electromagnetic

128201:05:22,199 --> 01:05:29,609submarine was first demonstrated it cost

1283


01:05:25,409 --> 01:05:31,949only two thousand dollars to build it's

128401:05:29,610 --> 01:05:34,640homemade look is reminiscent of the

128501:05:31,949 --> 01:05:34,639Wright brother's airplane

128601:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,099it clearly demonstrates the potential

128701:05:37,820 --> 01:05:42,109for magnetic propulsion this

128801:05:40,099 --> 01:05:44,599electromagnetic submarine moves through

128901:05:42,108 --> 01:05:51,039the water as a result of electromagnetic

129001:05:44,599 --> 01:05:53,659forces it has absolutely no moving parts

129101:05:51,039 --> 01:05:57,309ionized air is an electrically

129201:05:53,659 --> 01:05:59,750conductive substance just like sea water

129301:05:57,309 --> 01:06:03,710this film was taken from a space capsule

129401:05:59,750 --> 01:06:06,920returning to Earth it shows air ionized

129501:06:03,710 --> 01:06:09,079by the extreme heat of reentry the

129601:06:06,920 --> 01:06:11,539glowing ionized air seen around the

129701:06:09,079 --> 01:06:13,730


space capsule is very similar to the

129801:06:11,539 --> 01:06:23,750glowing effect photographed around UFOs

129901:06:13,730 --> 01:06:26,019and described by UFO witnesses UFOs may

130001:06:23,750 --> 01:06:27,980be propelled by some sort of advanced

130101:06:26,019 --> 01:06:30,500electromagnetic system that is

130201:06:27,980 --> 01:06:33,019foreshadowed by this primitive submarine

130301:06:30,500 --> 01:06:36,130just as Goddard's Rockets foreshadowed

130401:06:33,019 --> 01:06:36,130this advance

130501:06:41,090 --> 01:06:46,850the Travis Walton case is not the only

130601:06:44,389 --> 01:06:50,960well documented instance of a person

130701:06:46,849 --> 01:06:54,549being abducted by a UFO these books

130801:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,550record many such cases

130901:06:56,579 --> 01:07:02,299[Music]

131001:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,369perhaps the best-known abduction of all

131101:07:07,460 --> 01:07:11,960and one of the earliest reported is the


131201:07:10,369 --> 01:07:14,980abduction of a well-respected New

131301:07:11,960 --> 01:07:18,470England couple Betty and Barney Hill

131401:07:14,980 --> 01:07:21,559Barney Hill died in February of 1969

131501:07:18,469 --> 01:07:26,149eight years after their UFO experience

131601:07:21,559 --> 01:07:28,009on September 20th 1961 their experience

131701:07:26,150 --> 01:07:31,608has been described in a book the

131801:07:28,010 --> 01:07:36,020interrupted journey and a movie the UFO

131901:07:31,608 --> 01:07:38,239incident Betty and Barney Hill were

132001:07:36,019 --> 01:07:39,889driving along a deserted road at two

132101:07:38,239 --> 01:07:42,429o'clock in the morning on their way to

132201:07:39,889 --> 01:07:45,409their New Hampshire home from Montreal

132301:07:42,429 --> 01:07:49,159suddenly we began to see a strange light

132401:07:45,409 --> 01:07:52,639in the sky which was renewing in a very

132501:07:49,159 --> 01:07:55,489erratic pattern this light began to drop


132601:07:52,639 --> 01:07:57,920flying along beside us and did this for

132701:07:55,489 --> 01:08:00,919about 30 miles until he came to an area

132801:07:57,920 --> 01:08:03,470known as Indian Head and at that place

132901:08:00,920 --> 01:08:06,559this light left the top of the mountain

133001:08:03,469 --> 01:08:10,569came out over the highway and stopped in

133101:08:06,559 --> 01:08:12,409midair directly in front of us Barney

133201:08:10,570 --> 01:08:14,420jumped out of the cab with the

133301:08:12,409 --> 01:08:17,420binoculars in an attempt to try to

133401:08:14,420 --> 01:08:19,600identify this craft because this was we

133501:08:17,420 --> 01:08:22,190knew nothing about UFOs at the time

133601:08:19,600 --> 01:08:24,620Barney walked towards it looking up

133701:08:22,189 --> 01:08:27,199through the binoculars and he could see

133801:08:24,619 --> 01:08:29,479a red light on each side and figure

133901:08:27,199 --> 01:08:32,479standing behind the double row of

1340


01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:34,639windows he panicked and he ran back to

134101:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,619the car saying they plan to capture us

134201:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,829and we had to get out of there

134301:08:36,619 --> 01:08:41,390and we went speeding down the highway

134401:08:38,829 --> 01:08:43,698and at that point we heard beeping

134501:08:41,390 --> 01:08:45,859sounds in the car vibrated

134601:08:43,698 --> 01:08:49,039now when we arrived home we had many

134701:08:45,859 --> 01:08:51,170puzzles tops of Barney's shoes were

134801:08:49,039 --> 01:08:53,539scuffed our watches and stopped

134901:08:51,170 --> 01:08:56,029functioning they were highly polished

135001:08:53,539 --> 01:08:58,789spots in the trunk of the car but the

135101:08:56,029 --> 01:09:02,900biggest mystery of all was the fact that

135201:08:58,789 --> 01:09:05,420it had taken us seven hours to drive 190

135301:09:02,899 --> 01:09:08,500miles the hills reported their sighting

135401:09:05,420 --> 01:09:11,779


of a UFO to nearby Pease Air Force Base

135501:09:08,500 --> 01:09:15,140for fear of ridicule they left out their

135601:09:11,779 --> 01:09:15,920observation of alien beings during the

135701:09:15,140 --> 01:09:18,410next two years

135801:09:15,920 --> 01:09:21,250Betty Hill was haunted by nightmares and

135901:09:18,409 --> 01:09:23,389Barney developed a debilitating ulcer

136001:09:21,250 --> 01:09:25,159fearing that the ulcer and nightmares

136101:09:23,390 --> 01:09:28,310were rooted in the two hours of lost

136201:09:25,159 --> 01:09:31,969time the hill sought the help of dr.

136301:09:28,310 --> 01:09:35,210Benjamin Simon a psychiatrist and expert

136401:09:31,969 --> 01:09:37,369in regressive hypnosis dr. Simon

136501:09:35,210 --> 01:09:40,069conducted weekly hypnosis sessions with

136601:09:37,369 --> 01:09:41,988each of the hills separately he would

136701:09:40,069 --> 01:09:43,580induce amnesia in each of the hills

136801:09:41,988 --> 01:09:46,099session to make sure they couldn't


136901:09:43,579 --> 01:09:49,250discuss or exchange information about

137001:09:46,100 --> 01:09:51,588what they remembered after three months

137101:09:49,250 --> 01:09:54,439a clearer picture of their abduction

137201:09:51,588 --> 01:09:58,488emerged and Barney's ulcer had been

137301:09:54,439 --> 01:10:01,039cured at that point dr. Simon played for

137401:09:58,488 --> 01:10:03,289them a composite tape of all of the

137501:10:01,039 --> 01:10:07,519sessions and the hills found out the

137601:10:03,289 --> 01:10:10,429truth about the two missing hours it was

137701:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,739at this point the beings that had been

137801:10:10,429 --> 01:10:14,810on the craft but now standing in the

137901:10:12,738 --> 01:10:15,319middle of the road a dirt road blocking

138001:10:14,810 --> 01:10:19,550our way

138101:10:15,319 --> 01:10:21,500the car motor stalled they separated

138201:10:19,550 --> 01:10:23,960came up onto each side


138301:10:21,500 --> 01:10:26,750took us out of the car and at that point

138401:10:23,960 --> 01:10:30,289I realized that they undoubtedly plan to

138501:10:26,750 --> 01:10:33,920take us on board and that even increased

138601:10:30,289 --> 01:10:36,140my fears so that actually by the time we

138701:10:33,920 --> 01:10:40,099had arrived at the craft I was fighting

138801:10:36,140 --> 01:10:42,539but I was in a panic they just held me

138901:10:40,099 --> 01:10:44,880after mrs. Hills examination by the

139001:10:42,539 --> 01:10:46,920aliens had been completed she had an

139101:10:44,880 --> 01:10:50,250opportunity to speak with the leader of

139201:10:46,920 --> 01:10:52,380the aliens when I asked the reader where

139301:10:50,250 --> 01:10:55,319he was from I said I know you're not

139401:10:52,380 --> 01:10:58,230from this planet and this is when I saw

139501:10:55,319 --> 01:11:03,328the star map it looked almost like I was

139601:10:58,229 --> 01:11:05,968looking out a window it was about 3 or 4

1397


01:11:03,328 --> 01:11:08,399feet long and about 2 feet high there

139801:11:05,969 --> 01:11:11,010are all these balls of light in it no

139901:11:08,399 --> 01:11:13,679later explained to me the heavy blinds

140001:11:11,010 --> 01:11:16,260the places they go all the time or

140101:11:13,679 --> 01:11:19,770frequently the broken lines were

140201:11:16,260 --> 01:11:23,639expeditions he asked me if I knew where

140301:11:19,770 --> 01:11:26,880I was on the map I told him no that I

140401:11:23,639 --> 01:11:30,929knew nothing about astronomy and so he

140501:11:26,880 --> 01:11:32,880said if I did not know where I was in

140601:11:30,929 --> 01:11:35,760the map then there was no point there

140701:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,230trying to explain it to me I just didn't

140801:11:35,760 --> 01:11:39,570have the necessary knowledge

140901:11:37,229 --> 01:11:41,819Betty drew the star map she had seen on

141001:11:39,569 --> 01:11:45,090board the spacecraft and it appeared in

141101:11:41,819 --> 01:11:48,179


her book because there was no indication

141201:11:45,090 --> 01:11:50,190of which star was the Sun the best way

141301:11:48,179 --> 01:11:52,349that this map could be interpreted would

141401:11:50,189 --> 01:11:54,899be to build a large three-dimensional

141501:11:52,349 --> 01:11:58,289model of the Sun and all the stars near

141601:11:54,899 --> 01:12:00,899the Sun the one person who decided to

141701:11:58,289 --> 01:12:04,019take on this difficult task was Marjorie

141801:12:00,899 --> 01:12:07,078fish when I first started I expected to

141901:12:04,020 --> 01:12:09,599find many similar patterns to Betty's

142001:12:07,078 --> 01:12:12,509drawing but exactly the opposite

142101:12:09,599 --> 01:12:14,909happened because of the peculiar spacing

142201:12:12,510 --> 01:12:17,460of the stars near the Sun it was

142301:12:14,908 --> 01:12:19,769impossible for Marjorie fish to find a

142401:12:17,460 --> 01:12:23,578match of more than 4 or 5 of the 12

142501:12:19,770 --> 01:12:25,619pattern stars in the star map then she


142601:12:23,578 --> 01:12:28,679began to focus on the stars that were

142701:12:25,618 --> 01:12:31,889most like the Sun and most likely to

142801:12:28,679 --> 01:12:35,550have planets and life finally only the

142901:12:31,889 --> 01:12:38,039very best stars for life were left when

143001:12:35,550 --> 01:12:42,179that happened I had a nine-point match

143101:12:38,039 --> 01:12:44,639in 1969 a new star catalog came out

143201:12:42,179 --> 01:12:48,539giving more accurate distances between

143301:12:44,639 --> 01:12:51,150stars Marjorie made a new model based on

143401:12:48,539 --> 01:12:52,479those distances and disregarded all

143501:12:51,149 --> 01:12:55,089stars a

143601:12:52,479 --> 01:12:58,389cept the ones most likely to have

143701:12:55,090 --> 01:13:00,220planets and life the whole pattern stood

143801:12:58,390 --> 01:13:03,160out including three background stars

143901:13:00,220 --> 01:13:05,770this is a very heavy exciting thing for


144001:13:03,159 --> 01:13:08,199me the 15 point match achieved by

144101:13:05,770 --> 01:13:11,320Marjorie fish of the Betty Hill star map

144201:13:08,199 --> 01:13:13,988is unique and goes far beyond the laws

144301:13:11,319 --> 01:13:15,759of chance despite the fact that Marjorie

144401:13:13,988 --> 01:13:17,649fish tried thousands of different

144501:13:15,760 --> 01:13:20,320combinations of stars to try to match

144601:13:17,649 --> 01:13:22,750Betty's pattern she was able to find one

144701:13:20,319 --> 01:13:24,519and only one pattern that matched angle

144801:13:22,750 --> 01:13:27,609for angle line length for line length

144901:13:24,520 --> 01:13:29,590but Betty had drawn the star pattern

145001:13:27,609 --> 01:13:31,689makes sense from nearest star to nearest

145101:13:29,590 --> 01:13:35,739star to nearest star the Sun is part of

145201:13:31,689 --> 01:13:37,960the pattern quite remarkably every one

145301:13:35,738 --> 01:13:40,719of the stars in the pattern is the right

1454


01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:42,609kind for planets in life and all of the

145501:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,670right kind of stars for planets in life

145601:13:42,609 --> 01:13:47,799in this volume of space are part of the

145701:13:45,670 --> 01:13:50,079pattern the chance of that happening by

145801:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,810accident all the right kind and only the

145901:13:50,079 --> 01:13:55,869right kind for pattern stars is one in

146001:13:52,810 --> 01:13:58,120several thousand perhaps most remarkably

146101:13:55,869 --> 01:14:01,420this work tells us where one set of

146201:13:58,119 --> 01:14:05,050visitors originates the base stars Zeta

146301:14:01,420 --> 01:14:09,2501 and Zeta 2 Reticuli are a very special

146401:14:05,050 --> 01:14:11,440pair of stars Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 Reticuli

146501:14:09,250 --> 01:14:14,199are the closest to each other pair of

146601:14:11,439 --> 01:14:17,589stars suitable for planets and life in

146701:14:14,199 --> 01:14:20,050our entire neighborhood instead of being

146801:14:17,590 --> 01:14:23,529


isolated from their neighbors as we are

146901:14:20,050 --> 01:14:26,020Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 are a hundred times

147001:14:23,529 --> 01:14:28,329closer to each other than we are to our

147101:14:26,020 --> 01:14:30,489nearest neighbor it would not be

147201:14:28,329 --> 01:14:33,569surprising if space travel developed

147301:14:30,488 --> 01:14:37,559earlier between such close neighbors

147401:14:33,569 --> 01:14:40,679Zeta 1 & 2 Reticuli are over a billion

147501:14:37,560 --> 01:14:42,780years older than Earth clearly giving

147601:14:40,680 --> 01:14:45,170any beings living there a long

147701:14:42,779 --> 01:14:48,389evolutionary head start on us

147801:14:45,170 --> 01:14:50,399we went to Ohio State University to get

147901:14:48,390 --> 01:14:54,660an expert opinion about the validity of

148001:14:50,399 --> 01:14:56,609Marjorie fish's starmap work professor

148101:14:54,659 --> 01:15:01,019Walter Mitchell has been a professional

148201:14:56,609 --> 01:15:03,509astronomer for over 20 years it took me


148301:15:01,020 --> 01:15:05,250quite a long time to gain a full

148401:15:03,510 --> 01:15:07,560appreciation for the work of Marjorie

148501:15:05,250 --> 01:15:10,529fish but it's become apparent over the

148601:15:07,560 --> 01:15:13,410years that first of all the work is

148701:15:10,529 --> 01:15:16,229without question accurate the proven

148801:15:13,409 --> 01:15:18,389validity of her starmap enormous Lea

148901:15:16,229 --> 01:15:21,299increases the credibility of the

149001:15:18,390 --> 01:15:23,490remainder of mrs. Hills story I was

149101:15:21,300 --> 01:15:26,789taken into the first room Barney into

149201:15:23,489 --> 01:15:31,409the second room where we were given as

149301:15:26,789 --> 01:15:34,439the leader as I call him gave us testing

149401:15:31,409 --> 01:15:36,779there were loving beings and for

149501:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,519purposes of identification a call one

149601:15:36,779 --> 01:15:40,739the leader because he seemed to be in


149701:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,480charge of the project of Duras testing

149801:15:40,739 --> 01:15:45,929and he was the only one who spoke

149901:15:42,479 --> 01:15:48,269English then there was the examiner who

150001:15:45,930 --> 01:15:51,329did the testing and then there were nine

150101:15:48,270 --> 01:15:53,970others we call crew members they stayed

150201:15:51,329 --> 01:15:56,010outside the room in the corona our

150301:15:53,970 --> 01:15:58,710examinations are very much similar in

150401:15:56,010 --> 01:16:03,060that with both Barney and I they checked

150501:15:58,710 --> 01:16:06,539our eyes ears nose throat took samples

150601:16:03,060 --> 01:16:10,440of our hair fingernail and they scraped

150701:16:06,539 --> 01:16:14,130our skin with me they touched my body

150801:16:10,439 --> 01:16:17,039with little points my wires they said he

150901:16:14,130 --> 01:16:19,710was checking my nervous system and then

151001:16:17,039 --> 01:16:23,010they attempted to insert a needle like

1511


01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:24,480instrument in my navel dye objected that

151201:16:23,010 --> 01:16:26,970it would hurt and he said he shouldn't

151301:16:24,479 --> 01:16:29,399hurt when he did this it caused a great

151401:16:26,970 --> 01:16:31,800deal of pain he said it was a pregnancy

151501:16:29,399 --> 01:16:36,599test and I said well that's no pregnancy

151601:16:31,800 --> 01:16:38,820test here Betty Hill was right in 1961

151701:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,219there was no pregnancy test like that

151801:16:38,819 --> 01:16:43,479here on earth

151901:16:40,219 --> 01:16:47,180in the early 1970s two techniques

152001:16:43,479 --> 01:16:50,509amniocentesis and laparoscopy have both

152101:16:47,180 --> 01:16:52,100come in two why usage both are

152201:16:50,510 --> 01:16:54,530techniques that provide information

152301:16:52,100 --> 01:16:57,199about pregnancy and bear a striking

152401:16:54,529 --> 01:17:01,880resemblance to the experience that Betty

152501:16:57,198 --> 01:17:05,059


Hill described it's difficult to imagine

152601:17:01,880 --> 01:17:08,329Betty Hill inventing medical techniques

152701:17:05,060 --> 01:17:12,039that did not yet exist on earth unless

152801:17:08,329 --> 01:17:15,140her UFO experience actually occurred

152901:17:12,039 --> 01:17:17,930when the alien leaders saw the pain that

153001:17:15,140 --> 01:17:21,590Betty was experiencing he put his hand

153101:17:17,930 --> 01:17:25,219on her head and the pain went away at

153201:17:21,590 --> 01:17:27,560this point the examiner came running

153301:17:25,219 --> 01:17:29,329back into the room I'd opened my mouth I

153401:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,840started tugging at my teeth

153501:17:29,329 --> 01:17:36,890and I said to the Lido what is he doing

153601:17:32,840 --> 01:17:39,560and he said we're very very puzzled why

153701:17:36,890 --> 01:17:43,280are Barney's teeth removable and yours

153801:17:39,560 --> 01:17:46,280are not at that point we left the craft

153901:17:43,279 --> 01:17:47,809and went back to the car and we stood


154001:17:46,279 --> 01:17:50,929there by the car and we watched the

154101:17:47,810 --> 01:17:55,730craft leave we saw become surrounded by

154201:17:50,930 --> 01:17:58,100a fiery revolving mass of some kind we

154301:17:55,729 --> 01:18:01,159could see the UFO in the middle of this

154401:17:58,100 --> 01:18:02,570and it lifted up dipped down right right

154501:18:01,159 --> 01:18:05,689straight up it was gone

154601:18:02,569 --> 01:18:08,599I received a copy of the radar report

154701:18:05,689 --> 01:18:12,169from Pease Air Force Base where they had

154801:18:08,600 --> 01:18:15,590tracked an unidentified craft at 2:14

154901:18:12,170 --> 01:18:18,079a.m. in the more about the time just

155001:18:15,590 --> 01:18:21,650about the time we estimate that the UFO

155101:18:18,079 --> 01:18:24,380left we went back and we found the spot

155201:18:21,649 --> 01:18:28,729where we were captured it was not a

155301:18:24,380 --> 01:18:31,489fantasy it was a real experience and I


155401:18:28,729 --> 01:18:34,218believe that I have enough evidence to

155501:18:31,488 --> 01:18:36,649establish that I first met Betty and

155601:18:34,219 --> 01:18:38,539Barney Hill in November 1968

155701:18:36,649 --> 01:18:41,779I've spent a great deal of time since

155801:18:38,539 --> 01:18:43,880then investigating their abduction I've

155901:18:41,779 --> 01:18:46,550talked to dr. Benjamin Simon about his

156001:18:43,880 --> 01:18:49,100hypnosis sessions I've listened to the

156101:18:46,550 --> 01:18:51,739tapes of those sessions and I've looked

156201:18:49,100 --> 01:18:53,380at Marjorie fish's starmap work in great

156301:18:51,738 --> 01:18:55,689depth

156401:18:53,380 --> 01:18:57,909seems clear to me that Betty and Barney

156501:18:55,689 --> 01:19:01,238Hill were taken on board a flying saucer

156601:18:57,908 --> 01:19:05,319in New Hampshire in 1961 this story must

156701:19:01,238 --> 01:19:07,149be taken at face value it's true I think

1568


01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:09,279for a long long time I had the feeling

156901:19:07,149 --> 01:19:12,279that I had set up lives through a

157001:19:09,279 --> 01:19:14,500tragedy in some way and sometimes even

157101:19:12,279 --> 01:19:17,859now I still have this feeling because

157201:19:14,500 --> 01:19:21,340it's something that's haunting if

157301:19:17,859 --> 01:19:24,279something that's always on my mind no

157401:19:21,340 --> 01:19:26,350matter where I go or what I do because I

157501:19:24,279 --> 01:19:29,229do lead a very active life and I have

157601:19:26,350 --> 01:19:31,570many many interests but always that's on

157701:19:29,229 --> 01:19:33,488the back of my mind it's the last thing

157801:19:31,569 --> 01:19:35,769I think of when I go to bed at night and

157901:19:33,488 --> 01:19:40,869it's the first thing I think of in the

158001:19:35,770 --> 01:19:42,040morning when I wake up I I expect it

158101:19:40,869 --> 01:19:43,529will probably be that way for the rest

158201:19:42,039 --> 01:19:46,689


of my life

158301:19:43,529 --> 01:19:49,809Ted Phillips research into UFO landing

158401:19:46,689 --> 01:19:52,359sites revealed amazing information as to

158501:19:49,810 --> 01:19:54,340the frequency with which alien beings

158601:19:52,359 --> 01:19:56,799have been observed visiting the earth

158701:19:54,340 --> 01:19:58,510you find a surprising number of

158801:19:56,800 --> 01:20:03,940instances in which humanoids are

158901:19:58,510 --> 01:20:08,500reported near the landed UFO some 22% or

159001:20:03,939 --> 01:20:11,589325 cases involve humanoids generally

159101:20:08,500 --> 01:20:15,789described as small in size kind of pale

159201:20:11,590 --> 01:20:19,920gray skin little if any hair wide-set

159301:20:15,789 --> 01:20:23,229quite prominent eyes thin spindly bodies

159401:20:19,920 --> 01:20:25,359slightly enlarged heads and wearing

159501:20:23,229 --> 01:20:27,759tight-fitting divers suit as it is

159601:20:25,359 --> 01:20:30,908generally described in over fifty of the


159701:20:27,760 --> 01:20:32,670cases they were found small footprints

159801:20:30,908 --> 01:20:36,579correlating of course with the small

159901:20:32,670 --> 01:20:39,489humanoid scene dr. Leo sprinkle a state

160001:20:36,579 --> 01:20:41,979psychologist who has examined 20 UFO

160101:20:39,488 --> 01:20:45,569abductees says that they are absolutely

160201:20:41,979 --> 01:20:48,519sane responsible people of great courage

160301:20:45,569 --> 01:20:50,289he could find no mental aberration in

160401:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,989any of the people that he examined

160501:20:50,289 --> 01:20:55,658people who took the trouble to talk to

160601:20:52,988 --> 01:20:57,428me and investigate the thing saw that it

160701:20:55,658 --> 01:20:59,619you know obviously must have happened

160801:20:57,429 --> 01:21:02,380just as we reported it the overwhelming

160901:20:59,619 --> 01:21:03,199picture that emerges from UFO abductions

161001:21:02,380 --> 01:21:05,659II


161101:21:03,199 --> 01:21:08,630that the alien beings are examining and

161201:21:05,659 --> 01:21:17,750studying Earthlings much the way that we

161301:21:08,630 --> 01:21:19,789examine and study wild animals dr. James

161401:21:17,750 --> 01:21:21,560Harbor is a professor of civil

161501:21:19,789 --> 01:21:24,350engineering at the University of

161601:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,060California at Berkeley we visited him at

161701:21:24,350 --> 01:21:27,260his home

161801:21:25,060 --> 01:21:29,690professor hardier is one of the leading

161901:21:27,260 --> 01:21:32,480experts in the world concerning UFO

162001:21:29,689 --> 01:21:35,809abduction he is hypnotized both Betty

162101:21:32,479 --> 01:21:37,849Hill and Travis Walton he was also one

162201:21:35,810 --> 01:21:40,100of the twelve scientists to present

162301:21:37,850 --> 01:21:42,200overwhelming evidence at the u.s.

162401:21:40,100 --> 01:21:45,470congressional hearings indicating that

1625


01:21:42,199 --> 01:21:46,489some UFOs are extraterrestrial

162601:21:45,470 --> 01:21:49,070spacecraft

162701:21:46,489 --> 01:21:51,199professor Carter has used hypnosis to

162801:21:49,069 --> 01:21:53,779aid hundreds of people in remembering

162901:21:51,199 --> 01:21:56,779the details of their UFO experiences and

163001:21:53,779 --> 01:21:59,119believes that much of our confusion in

163101:21:56,779 --> 01:22:01,489dealing with a large number of UFO

163201:21:59,119 --> 01:22:04,159abduction reports stems from the fact

163301:22:01,489 --> 01:22:08,599that there are many different alien

163401:22:04,159 --> 01:22:12,920groups visiting the earth one of these

163501:22:08,600 --> 01:22:14,870UFO abductees is Pat Roach she and her

163601:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,359daughter were apparently abducted by

163701:22:14,869 --> 01:22:21,050alien beings on a flying saucer that

163801:22:17,359 --> 01:22:26,239landed near their home in Utah visualize

163901:22:21,050 --> 01:22:30,010


just what's in front of you there tell

164001:22:26,239 --> 01:22:30,010me what it is that your eyes see

164101:22:30,929 --> 01:22:38,829I'd say he's about I'm not good at

164201:22:34,149 --> 01:22:42,009height but possibly three and a half

164301:22:38,829 --> 01:22:45,429foot tall he is a little people he's

164401:22:42,010 --> 01:22:48,849skinny but he's not he's still in

164501:22:45,429 --> 01:22:51,810proportion although his arms are long

164601:22:48,849 --> 01:22:55,179that wasn't the impression that you got

164701:22:51,810 --> 01:22:57,400they can't really interfere they asked

164801:22:55,179 --> 01:23:01,149me what I liked and what I didn't like

164901:22:57,399 --> 01:23:05,059and they asked me how I felt about

165001:23:01,149 --> 01:23:08,599things how I felt about

165101:23:05,060 --> 01:23:11,810other people and how I felt about pain

165201:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,039and then they took me back to instances

165301:23:11,810 --> 01:23:16,610in my life where I had had these


165401:23:13,039 --> 01:23:19,489feelings and it's not right it's not

165501:23:16,609 --> 01:23:20,960right to do that to people they were

165601:23:19,489 --> 01:23:25,269just trying to learn as much as they

165701:23:20,960 --> 01:23:30,069could know what tell me where bite you

165801:23:25,270 --> 01:23:30,070there Pat your children all right

165901:23:30,310 --> 01:23:35,990there's nothing going to be bothering

166001:23:32,720 --> 01:23:40,760them they're perfectly safe there's no

166101:23:35,989 --> 01:23:43,519reason for you to feel this upset one of

166201:23:40,760 --> 01:23:47,199the things that's a pretty good earmark

166301:23:43,520 --> 01:23:50,840of authenticity Don any reasonable doubt

166401:23:47,199 --> 01:23:52,550is the welling up of a strong emotional

166501:23:50,840 --> 01:23:56,440reaction during the time that a person

166601:23:52,550 --> 01:24:00,470is reliving an experience under hypnosis

166701:23:56,439 --> 01:24:04,339the spontaneity the emotional reaction


166801:24:00,470 --> 01:24:05,690the quick tears and terror when you come

166901:24:04,340 --> 01:24:08,810across that sort of thing as sometimes

167001:24:05,689 --> 01:24:11,319all I'm sparring when those strange

167101:24:08,810 --> 01:24:14,720beings started walking up to the car I

167201:24:11,319 --> 01:24:17,049was so terrified that even now that I

167301:24:14,720 --> 01:24:20,449think about it I wonder how I actually

167401:24:17,050 --> 01:24:24,980lived through it to be able to see a UFO

167501:24:20,449 --> 01:24:27,800close up leaves one feeling very

167601:24:24,979 --> 01:24:29,269insignificant my connection with the UFO

167701:24:27,800 --> 01:24:32,869phenomena has certainly changed my

167801:24:29,270 --> 01:24:36,820outlook on life I I don't I feel much

167901:24:32,869 --> 01:24:39,050freer knowing that there's an infinite

168001:24:36,819 --> 01:24:41,029expansion of knowledge and existence out

168101:24:39,050 --> 01:24:42,829there that we aren't stuck with the

1682


01:24:41,029 --> 01:24:46,880limitations that we think we we thought

168301:24:42,829 --> 01:24:49,729we had man has always wondered about his

168401:24:46,880 --> 01:24:51,350place in the universe once it was a

168501:24:49,729 --> 01:24:53,029matter of conventional wisdom and

168601:24:51,350 --> 01:24:54,860religious doctrine that the earth was

168701:24:53,029 --> 01:24:58,779the center of the universe and the Sun

168801:24:54,859 --> 01:25:02,000and Moon moved around it in 1543

168901:24:58,779 --> 01:25:04,219Nicholas Copernicus realized that in

169001:25:02,000 --> 01:25:08,000reality the earth was moving around the

169101:25:04,220 --> 01:25:09,229Sun as were the other planets Giordano

169201:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,939Bruno

169301:25:09,229 --> 01:25:13,699the madam first publicly proclaimed

169401:25:10,939 --> 01:25:16,759Copernicus's views was burned at the

169501:25:13,698 --> 01:25:19,848stake and Copernicus's discovery was

169601:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,340


successfully suppressed for over 200

169701:25:19,849 --> 01:25:24,708years

169801:25:21,340 --> 01:25:27,440the realization that UFOs are someone

169901:25:24,708 --> 01:25:29,748else's spacecraft completes the job that

170001:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,458Copernicus started in discovering that

170101:25:29,748 --> 01:25:33,279the earth was not the center of the

170201:25:31,458 --> 01:25:38,349universe

170301:25:33,279 --> 01:25:38,349[Music]

170401:25:40,288 --> 01:25:46,349new ideas which change man's conception

170501:25:43,380 --> 01:25:48,750of himself and his universe coming to

170601:25:46,349 --> 01:25:50,550acceptance not because their opponents

170701:25:48,750 --> 01:25:53,250come to believe in them but because

170801:25:50,550 --> 01:25:56,420their opponents die and a new generation

170901:25:53,250 --> 01:26:03,939grows up that is accustomed to them

171001:25:56,420 --> 01:26:07,079[Music]


171101:26:03,939 --> 01:26:09,488many of the ideas presented in this film

171201:26:07,079 --> 01:26:12,390definitely challenge our present

171301:26:09,488 --> 01:26:15,819conception of our place in the universe

171401:26:12,390 --> 01:26:19,210however the evidence supporting these

171501:26:15,819 --> 01:26:21,819ideas is so strong that it cannot be

171601:26:19,210 --> 01:26:24,789ignored by open-minded people seeking

171701:26:21,819 --> 01:26:27,099the truth Gordon Cooper's letter to the

171801:26:24,789 --> 01:26:30,939United Nations verifying his UFO

171901:26:27,100 --> 01:26:33,699experience 1,400 UFO landing sites where

172001:26:30,939 --> 01:26:36,250the UFO affected the soil general Nathan

172101:26:33,698 --> 01:26:38,679twining classified letter revealing the

172201:26:36,250 --> 01:26:41,109Air Force's knowledge of the reality of

172301:26:38,680 --> 01:26:43,719flying discs J edgar Hoover's

172401:26:41,109 --> 01:26:46,779handwritten memo asking for access to


172501:26:43,719 --> 01:26:49,960captured flying saucers major Marcel's

172601:26:46,779 --> 01:26:52,779recovery of a crashed UFO computer

172701:26:49,960 --> 01:26:55,630analyzed photographs of UFOs the six

172801:26:52,779 --> 01:26:59,679polygraph tests verifying the reality of

172901:26:55,630 --> 01:27:01,719Travis Waltons UFO experience the

173001:26:59,680 --> 01:27:04,210evidence we have presented establishes

173101:27:01,719 --> 01:27:08,010well beyond a reasonable doubt that

173201:27:04,210 --> 01:27:11,670alien beings are visiting the earth in

173301:27:08,010 --> 01:27:11,670extraterrestrial spacecraft

173401:27:13,139 --> 01:27:18,719the next section of this film makes it

173501:27:15,899 --> 01:27:21,448even more difficult to ignore the

173601:27:18,719 --> 01:27:24,118reality of these extraterrestrial

173701:27:21,448 --> 01:27:27,238visitors one of the most convincing UFO

173801:27:24,118 --> 01:27:30,210cases of all time began in January 1975

1739


01:27:27,238 --> 01:27:32,939in Switzerland the experience begins to

174001:27:30,210 --> 01:27:35,029the UFO abduction case a Swiss farmer

174101:27:32,939 --> 01:27:37,049was taken aboard a spacecraft

174201:27:35,029 --> 01:27:38,519articulated words with the occupants

174301:27:37,050 --> 01:27:40,679that began in exchange of information

174401:27:38,520 --> 01:27:43,800that has continued on and is going on

174501:27:40,679 --> 01:27:45,300today still going on today spacecraft

174601:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,429flew out of the blue and landed the

174701:27:45,300 --> 01:27:48,900occupant got up and stood in the grass

174801:27:47,429 --> 01:27:50,460and sat on the grass and talked to the

174901:27:48,899 --> 01:27:52,319man and they had an exchange that lasted

175001:27:50,460 --> 01:27:54,89920 minutes and there have been a hundred

175101:27:52,319 --> 01:27:57,059and sixteen contacts since then case

175201:27:54,899 --> 01:27:58,079involved a mr. Billy - today's question

175301:27:57,060 --> 01:27:59,909


they said that they come from the

175401:27:58,079 --> 01:28:02,939Pleiades they said that they are here

175501:27:59,908 --> 01:28:05,399observing humanity that they have

175601:28:02,939 --> 01:28:07,469information some of the information is

175701:28:05,399 --> 01:28:09,839of scientific nature and that he would

175801:28:07,469 --> 01:28:12,630be asked to pass it to other people they

175901:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,550say that they are not gods they're not

176001:28:12,630 --> 01:28:16,529superior people they are men just like

176101:28:14,550 --> 01:28:19,260we're men and he's taken hundreds of

176201:28:16,529 --> 01:28:22,259photographs of the Pleiadian spacecraft

176301:28:19,260 --> 01:28:23,880operating in Swiss airspace and this has

176401:28:22,260 --> 01:28:26,579all been checked by the computer the

176501:28:23,880 --> 01:28:30,300computer says that this object is on the

176601:28:26,579 --> 01:28:32,460order of 20 feet in diameter and about a

176701:28:30,300 --> 01:28:34,829hundred and twenty yards away it agrees


176801:28:32,460 --> 01:28:36,300with what the witness said about the

176901:28:34,829 --> 01:28:37,319diary says it's seven meters in darkness

177001:28:36,300 --> 01:28:39,750about 21 feet

177101:28:37,319 --> 01:28:42,149he took messages he copied notes from

177201:28:39,750 --> 01:28:44,609the Pleiadians wrote them down over two

177301:28:42,149 --> 01:28:46,559thousand pages worth here's a book of

177401:28:44,609 --> 01:28:48,118600 pages that I have translated in

177501:28:46,560 --> 01:28:52,219English so far this represents

177601:28:48,118 --> 01:28:52,219one-fourth one-fourth of the notes

177701:28:53,958 --> 01:28:59,179we have no case on record with that

177801:28:56,849 --> 01:29:01,979volume of information delivered by

177901:28:59,179 --> 01:29:05,368extraterrestrial contacts to a contact

178001:29:01,979 --> 01:29:07,320eat a UFO contactee and the information

178101:29:05,368 --> 01:29:10,078in there is just staggering just


178201:29:07,319 --> 01:29:11,938phenomenal the information covers

178301:29:10,078 --> 01:29:13,648technical and scientific data as best

178401:29:11,939 --> 01:29:15,209they can explain it to us in terms of

178501:29:13,649 --> 01:29:17,550the words that we use in our technology

178601:29:15,208 --> 01:29:19,559it gets into spiritual problems

178701:29:17,550 --> 01:29:22,079spiritual development of man and our

178801:29:19,559 --> 01:29:24,929relationship to deity it has it

178901:29:22,078 --> 01:29:27,179describes other existences in space

179001:29:24,929 --> 01:29:29,368other human beings living in other

179101:29:27,179 --> 01:29:31,708planetary environments they're here

179201:29:29,368 --> 01:29:33,748because they're concerned about us their

179301:29:31,708 --> 01:29:35,878younger brothers are technical

179401:29:33,748 --> 01:29:37,828potentials have exceeded our spiritual

179501:29:35,878 --> 01:29:39,569capability of handling the information

1796


01:29:37,828 --> 01:29:41,578and we are now in a position where we

179701:29:39,569 --> 01:29:43,859can destroy ourselves and we don't have

179801:29:41,578 --> 01:29:46,109the spiritual development to prevent it

179901:29:43,859 --> 01:29:48,328and they will because this we have

180001:29:46,109 --> 01:29:49,948become a laboratory experiment they are

180101:29:48,328 --> 01:29:51,929waiting to see what we're going to do as

180201:29:49,948 --> 01:29:54,198a matter of fact they don't see us

180301:29:51,929 --> 01:29:56,699solving the problem they see us as a an

180401:29:54,198 --> 01:30:00,148insane society rushing headlong to

180501:29:56,698 --> 01:30:03,089destruction and that only a change of

180601:30:00,149 --> 01:30:07,249mass mind on a mass scale can influence

180701:30:03,090 --> 01:30:07,248it and they don't see this happening

180801:30:13,368 --> 01:30:15,429you

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