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LegalDocML - TC meeting April 26th 6.30PM CESTThursday, April 26, 2018
Agenda1.0 Voting
1.1 Voting of the errata corrige of the "Akoma Ntoso Version 1.0. Part 1: XML Vocabulary" deliverable in order to proceed with the OASIS standard request. We have a new version to vote, that includes some other typos correction.
2.0 Deliverables2.1 - Grant's booklet presentation and voting.2.2 - Customization tool for AKN and documentation2.3 - Documentation about advanced use of metadata
3.0 Next Steps3.1 Next meetings plan
Meeting AttendanceIn AttendanceMonica Palmirani, Fabio Vitali, Alvaro Sandoval (Biblioteca del Congreso Nacional de Chile), Chet Ensign (OASIS), Grant Vergottini, Marcello Ceci (GRCTC), Véronique Parisse
RegretsCathie Mayo (OASIS), Raquel Sosa (arlamento del Uruguay), Alejandro Silvera Tosi (Parlamento del Uruguay), Ashok Hariharan (Individual), Carlo Marchetti (Senato della Repubblica), Claudio Fabiani (European Parliament), Daniel Ferreira (Parlamento del Uruguay), David Vilches (iblioteca del Congreso Nacional de Chile), Dazza Greenwood (M.I.T.), Dr. Firas Al Khalil (GRCTC), Enric Staromiejski (everis, S.L.U.), Francisco Cifuentes (Biblioteca del Congreso Nacional de Chile), Gianluigi Alari (European Parliament), Giuseppe Briotti (Senato della Repubblica), Grant Vergottini (Xcential Group, LLC), Jan Benedictus (Fonto Group BV), Jim Cabral (MTG Management Consultants, LLC.), Jim Harris (National Center for State Courts), Jonathan Germann, Kevin Tyson (JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A.), Laurel Shifrin (LexisNexis, a Division of Reed Elsevier), Luca Cervone (University of Bologna-CIRSFID), Maan Khamis (LexisNexis, a Division of Reed Elsevier), María de la Paz Arocena (Parlamento del Uruguay), Michael Aisenberg (Mitre Corporation), Robin Cover (OASIS), Shirley-Ann Fiagome (Ghana Parliament), Steve Petri (LexisNexis, a Division of Reed Elsevier), Sylvia Tosar, Sylvia Tosar Piaggio (Parlamento del Uruguay), Thomas Hardjono (M.I.T.)
Full Meeting RecordView this record online at https://meet.lucidmeetings.com/meeting/187585In KAVI we record the quorum. Monica Palmirani opens the TC.
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/event.php?event_id=47249
1.0 Voting1.1 Voting of the errata corrige of the "Akoma Ntoso Version 1.0. Part 1: XML Vocabulary" deliverable in order to proceed with the OASIS standard request. We have a new version to vote, that includes some other typos correction.Monica Palmirani presents the new package and the log file with the new typos list. Nobody objects to the list of modifications.Monica Palmirani proposes the motion #1:“MOTION #1: I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve Akoma Ntoso Version 1.0 akn-core-v1.0-cs01-part1-vocabulary-errata-v2-notrack.doc contained in the zip file https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981as a Candidate OASIS Standard. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in LOGFILE-v2.docx inside of the package https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981 and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#dNonmaterialChange).”The TC approves with a Special Majority Vote.Alvaro detects a minor typos: "tome” must to amend with "tomo", in the Spanish Tradition concerning the name of the partitions. Monica Palmirani will ask this amendment to Chet during the normal tuning of the documentation before the final publication.Documents• LOGFILE-v2.docx• https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?
document_id=6298
Monica Palmirani proposes the motion #2:
“MOTION #2: to delegate Monica Palmirani to submit the package to the OASIS staff for opening the ballot.”The TC approves.
2.0 Deliverables2.1 - Grant's booklet presentation and voting.Veronique Parisse asks two corrections: i) to add block in the generic elements, ii) to use idref to eventRef or to temporalData in the attribute @start and @end in the modifications annotation. Grant Vergottini will take in care to those two elements.
2.2 - Customization tool for AKN and documentationFabio Vitali presents the sub-schema generator and the main principles concerning the customization of AKN using XSD 1.1 for producing constraints and rules:http://akn.web.cs.unibo.it/akgenerator/After the presentation the TC discusses about the goal of the deliverable.The TC decides to prepare an official deliverable concerning the principles of customization, the methodology of the limitation rules, how to produce extension of AKN. The tool will be mentioned inside of the deliverable as reference, but not as output of the TC.Fabio Vitali will provide a table of content for the next meeting.2.3 - Documentation about advanced use of metadataThis item in the agenda is moved to the next TC.
3.0 Next Steps3.1 Next meetings planThe next meeting will be May 3rd, 6.30 CEST time for approving the Grant’s bookletMay 8th, 6.30 CEST time for discussing the Customization guidelines
Script of the Chat
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Monica Palmirani
hello I am here
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Grant Vergottini
I am here
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Monica Palmirani
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/event.php?event_id=47249
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Véronique Parisse
hello
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Monica Palmirani
KAVI :-)
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Grant Vergottini
hello
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Alvaro Sandoval
hello!
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Véronique Parisse
hello
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Grant Vergottini
Yes, we are here
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Marcello Ceci
hello, sorry I had problem with login
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Alvaro Sandoval
kavi OK
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Monica Palmirani
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981
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Grant Vergottini
It has track changes on?
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Véronique Parisse
It seems that there is one version with track changes and one without
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Monica Palmirani
MOTION 1: I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve Akoma Ntoso Version 1.0 akn-core-v1.0-cs01-part1-vocabulary-errata-notrack.doc contained in the zip file https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981as a Candidate OASIS Standard. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in LOGFILE.docx inside of the package https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981 and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#dNonmaterialChange).
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Fabio Vitali monica: can you change my mail to [email protected] please?
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Monica Palmirani
I will send the request to the OASIS staff.
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Véronique Parisse
Monica, this document is not a a Candidate OASIS Standard, it is part of the Candidate OASIS Standard.
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Véronique Parisse
it is part of the candidate. Other documents are also needed (schema, naming convention, ...)
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Véronique Parisse
this is a not prescriptive document
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Grant Vergottini
Just to be clear, the whole package is the Candidate OASIS standard. What we are approving is an errata?
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Grant Vergottini
Ok
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Fabio Vitali we come from a culture where if we vote a document AND we vote the errata, we know that we implicitly vote the amended document
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Grant Vergottini
ok
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Monica Palmirani
akn-core-v1.0-cs01-part1-vocabulary-errata-v2-notrack.doc
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Monica Palmirani
akn-core-v1.0-cs01-part1-vocabulary-errata-v2.doc
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Monica Palmirani
LOGFILE-v2.docx
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Fabio Vitali i see a large group of typo fixes, and possibly three actual modifications which I am fine with
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Monica Palmirani
I move to approve the Chair requesting that TC Administration hold a Special Majority Vote to approve Akoma Ntoso Version 1.0 akn-core-v1.0-cs01-part1-vocabulary-errata-v2-notrack.doc contained in the zip file https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981as a Candidate OASIS Standard. I further move that the TC affirm that changes have been made since the last public review, that the changes made are documented in LOGFILE-v2.docx inside of the package https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62981 and that the TC judges these changes to be Non-Material in accordance with the definition in the OASIS TC Process (http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-
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Grant Vergottini
+1
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Véronique Parisse
+1
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Alvaro Sandoval
there is 1 mistake: in page 72
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Monica Palmirani
+1
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Alvaro Sandoval
sorry to say
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Marcello Ceci
+1
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Alvaro Sandoval
it says "tome" in spanish tradition, but the correct word is "tomo"
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Monica Palmirani
no problem which one? but we will have always mistakes
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Monica Palmirani
APPROVED MOTION #1
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Alvaro Sandoval
+1
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Fabio Vitali +1
Show Monica MOTION #2: to delegate Monica Palmirani to submit the
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Palmirani package to the OASIS staff for opening the ballot
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Véronique Parisse
+1
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Marcello Ceci
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Alvaro Sandoval
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Fabio Vitali +1
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Grant Vergottini
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Monica Palmirani
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Monica Palmirani
APPROVED MOTION #2.
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Fabio Vitali :-
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Fabio Vitali )
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Alvaro Sandoval
great
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Grant Vergottini
I've put it in the KAVI
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Véronique Parisse
I have two small remarks
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Monica Palmirani
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/legaldocml/document.php?document_id=62980
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Véronique Parisse
I think that block is missing in the generic elements
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Grant Vergottini
I will check that, Veronique
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Véronique Parisse
temporalGroup: @start and @end must be pointer to event, no ?
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Grant Vergottini
I will look at that too
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Monica Palmirani
I am using eventRef for the simple situation
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Véronique Parisse
? Values of the 'start' and 'end' attributes are NOT dates, but references to event elements. Is it not correct ?
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Monica Palmirani
correct veronique
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Véronique Parisse
ok it is to explain the principle
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Véronique Parisse
ok I understand
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Monica Palmirani
Ok Grant can fix them easly
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Grant Vergottini
I will look at both issues and make an update
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Grant Vergottini
yes
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Fabio Vitali ok
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Véronique Parisse
ok
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Monica Palmirani
TASK: I will ask to Chet how to approve the Grant's booklet and how to put the OASIS logo inside.
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Fabio Vitali can you hear me?
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Véronique Parisse
no
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Alvaro Sandoval
nop
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Fabio Vitali i am speaking
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Fabio Vitali ouch
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Fabio Vitali disconnecting and reconnecting
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Véronique Parisse
yes
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Alvaro Sandoval
yes
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Monica Palmirani
Roadmap about guidelines for custamization
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Grant Vergottini
Yes
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Véronique Parisse
yes
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Alvaro Sandoval
yes
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Grant Vergottini
How do we start playing with it?
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Fabio Vitali http://akn.web.cs.unibo.it/akgenerator/
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Véronique Parisse
Can we see the schema ?
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Véronique Parisse
yes but you speak of AKN based on schema 1.1 .
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Véronique Parisse
Is it qa version of this ?
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Fabio Vitali http://akn.web.cs.unibo.it/akgenerator/validator.html
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Véronique Parisse
it is a black box ?
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Véronique Parisse
I try to understand the principles and how it works
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Marcello Ceci
I can't see it either, maybe is only for host
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Marcello Ceci
he should become host
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Grant Vergottini
Yes, it's hard to follow
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Grant Vergottini
Coming up
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Grant Vergottini
yes
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Alvaro Sandoval
yes
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Marcello Ceci
that was really interesting to see, thanks Fabio.
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Grant Vergottini
Can it validate any schema or just AKN?
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Fabio Vitali Any schema!
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Grant Vergottini
Great
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Monica Palmirani
which output we intend to put in OASIS?
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Monica Palmirani
The output could be: methodology, guidelines of this approach, not the tool because is software
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Monica Palmirani
the generator is only a reference
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Grant Vergottini
We're not funded to be a software development org.
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Véronique Parisse
use cases is good so everybody can propose his own use cases
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Véronique Parisse
for me use cases is the basis
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Grant Vergottini
yes
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Marcello Ceci
yes
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Fabio Vitali ok
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Monica Palmirani
table of table? for this deliverable=
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Monica Palmirani
for the next time?
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Grant Vergottini
Next week would be better for me.
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Grant Vergottini
Short meeting
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Fabio Vitali I can only on May 3rd
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Monica Palmirani
3rd May
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Fabio Vitali ok
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Marcello Ceci
Yes
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Fabio Vitali (y)
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Véronique Parisse
ok
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Grant Vergottini
That's good for me
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Monica Palmirani
10 may
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Marcello Ceci
ok
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Alvaro Sandoval
ok
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Alvaro Sandoval
both meetings
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Fabio Vitali May 10 is bad for me. I have the
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Véronique Parisse
10 i am in holiday
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Fabio Vitali an important day at the Computer Science Degree
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Véronique Parisse
not available
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Fabio Vitali 9 is better
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Grant Vergottini
I'm available either day
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Véronique Parisse
9-13 is impossible
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Véronique Parisse
8 is good
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Fabio Vitali 8 is good for me
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Marcello Ceci
good
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Fabio Vitali ok
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Grant Vergottini
works for me
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Marcello Ceci
8 is good
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Fabio Vitali (y)
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Fabio Vitali Thank you
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Marcello Ceci
thanks Monica for the planning
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Fabio Vitali Need to go now
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Fabio Vitali (hi) Ciao!!!
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Marcello Ceci
bye!
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Alvaro Sandoval
bye
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Grant Vergottini
bye
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Véronique Parisse
bye