Post on 31-Dec-2015
Promoting Defined Benefit Pension Plans
Hank Kim, Esq.
National Conference on Public Employee Retirement Systems
Presentation Overview
• Introduction to National Conference on Public Employee Retirement Systems
• Past battles to preserve DB
• Battles ahead and applying lessons learned
• The new language of DB
• Wrap up and Q & As
NCPERS
• Largest nonprofit trade association representing 500 public sector DB plans
• Who we ARE:– Advocacy– Research– Education
NCPERS Position
• All workers (public and private) should have a traditional pension benefit (DB plan) as their primary pension plan
• DB plans are good for governments, employees, taxpayers and the economy
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• How many public pension plans are there in the United States?
a. 78
b. 472
c. 2656
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• How much money do public pension plans control?
a. $300 billion
b. $3 trillion
c. $30 trillion
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• How many public servants are there in the United States?
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• How many public servants are there in the United States?
a. 14.1 million active/6.9 million retired
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• What is the average pension benefit of a retired public servant?
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• What is the average pension benefit of a retired public servant?
a. $20,400 per year
Test Your Knowledge of Public Pensions
• How many Fortune 500 companies offer DB plans?
a. none
b. Less than half
c. More than half
Public Pensions
There has to be a balance:
• employer contributions,
• employee contributions,
• investment returns, and
• benefit-funding ratio
Past Battles
Defined Benefit to Defined Contribution
• West Virginia Teachers (1990)
• Michigan State Employees (1997)
• Alaska (July 1, 2006)
Past Victories
DC to DB
• North Dakota (1977)
• Nebraska (2000)
• West Virginia Teachers (2005)[61% voted to return to DB plans]
Past Victories (cont.)
Preserving DBs
• Florida (2000) - optional
• California (2005)
• Colorado (2006)
The Battles Ahead
Three Alarms – direct threats (5)
Alaska – working to overturn
Arizona – DC bills introduced
Kentucky – commission to review benefits
Rhode Island – state-wide two-tier system proposed plus Providence has DC proposal
Utah – DC proposal for select new hires
The Battles AheadTwo Alarms – significant threat (12)
California
Hawaii
Illinois
Michigan
Minnesota
Montana
New Jersey
Oklahoma
Ohio
Oregon
Virginia
Wisconsin
The Battles Ahead
One Alarm – potential threat (19)Alabama Colorado ConnecticutIndiana Kansas LouisianaMaryland Massachusetts Mississippi Nevada New Hampshire New MexicoNew York North Carolina Pennsylvania South Carolina Texas WashingtonWest Virginia
Are you concerned?
• 36 states’ public pension systems are in play today!
California Battle-Lessons Learned
ELIMINATE DB PLANS:
• Governor proposed ballot initiative
• Legislator introduced bill
• Coalition of concerned groups
• Powerful DB message
• Stayed on message
Alaska Battle-Lessons Learned
Eliminate DB Plans (7/06):• Legislation (short session)
• Legislature kept in session
• Groups slower to organize
• Message not as clear
Colorado Battle-Lessons Learned
• Bill to eliminate DB plans
• Ballot initiative proposed
• Groups overcame differences and formed an effective coalition
• Got buy-in from all stakeholders
• Legislative compromise deflated ballot
initiative
Download DB Tools
www.NCPERS.org
• NCPERS Research
• Fact sheets
• Myths and Facts
• Testimonials
• Updated information
Download DB Tools
www.NCPERS.org
• NCPERS Research
• Fact sheets
• Myths and Facts
• Testimonials
• Updated information
Download DB Tools
www.NCPERS.org
• NCPERS Research
• Fact sheets
• Myths and Facts
• Testimonials
• Updated information
Download DB Tools
www.NCPERS.org
• NCPERS Research
• Fact sheets
• Myths and Facts
• Testimonials
• Updated information
Download DB Tools
www.NCPERS.org
• NCPERS Research
• Fact sheets
• Myths and Facts
• Testimonials
• Updated information
Messages That Work
• Elimination of death & disability benefits
• Traditional pensions are a tried and true system that benefit taxpayers
• New system will be costly and chaotic
Messages That Work
Use analogies and best face of public service :
• mortgage
• public safety heroes
What’s the Problem?
Total unfunded liability of public funds is $350 billion (2,656 systems)
Americans owe $8.8 trillion in mortgages!
Should we abolish home mortgages?
What’s the Problem?
Our plans are funded at 87%.
If you had 87% of your mortgage paid off – would anyone consider you in financial trouble?
Things to Remember
• Not a debate on the merits of DBs—it’s a media battle!
• Educate constituents early and often
• Build coalition with other stakeholders
• Have emotional stories and sympathetic figures
• Stay on message
NCPERS 2007 Educational Programs
Legislative ConferenceFebruary 5-7 in Washington, DC
Trustee Educational Conference May 18-19 in Honolulu, HI
Annual Conference May 20-24 in Honolulu, HI
Program for Advanced Trustee StudiesJuly 26-27 in Cambridge, MA (HLS)
Public Sector Health Care Symposium October 1-3 in Chicago, IL
Public Safety Employee Pension & Benefits ConferenceOctober 14-17 in Palm Springs, CA
For More Information
NCPERS444 North Capitol Street, NW, Suite 221Washington, DC 20001info@NCPERS.org1-877-202-5706