Post on 28-Jun-2020
Preparation for Transfer from a California Community College
Nicola Place
• Transfer Center Director, Diablo Valley College (Retired)
• Assistant Director of Admissions, Mills College
Dennis Franco
• Counselor and Counseling
Department Chair Diablo Valley College
Presented by:
Presented to WACAC Share, Learn and Connect 3.19.15
Why Attend a California Community College (CCC)?
• The tangibles: • Cost
• Convenience
• In most cases, smaller class sizes
• Great transfer path to UC, CSU and private colleges
• The intangibles: • Greatest variety of people of any education system
• Breadth of academic missions & options
• Fosters development of resilience, adaptability, tolerance, resourcefulness, camaraderie, and, hopefully…
a sense of humor. J
Great transfer path: Admit Rates of Transfer Students coming from California Community Colleges Fall 2014
• UC Berkeley: 23% admitted, 94% from CCCs (Frosh rate was 17.3%)
• UC Davis: 57% admitted, 93% from CCCs (Frosh rate: 40.6%)
• UCLA: 27% admitted, 93% from CCCs (Frosh rate: 18.2%)
• USC: 28% admitted, 53% from CCCs (Frosh rate: 18%)
• Saint Mary’s: 66% admitted, 73% from CCCs
• Mills: More than 30% of students are transfers
Preparation for Transfer: Two Parts and One Universal Truth
Academic preparation
Financial preparation
+
The universal truth about transfer preparation:
IT DEPENDS
Preparation for Transfer: How students start at the CCCs
• SB 1456: Student Success Act (2012) Mandates • New community college students now must:
1. Apply 2. Be Assessed for English and Math
3. Attend an Orientation (online or in person)
4. Create an Ed Plan in consultation with a counselor
5. Register
• When to begin? EARLIER than you might think: January.
Academic Preparation: What’s in a degree?
Gen Ed: ~40 units LD at CCC UD at 4-‐year
Major: ~40-‐80 units LD at CCC
UD at 4-‐year
Electives: ~0-‐40 units At CCC and/or At 4-‐year
LD = Lower Division UD = Upper Division
Total Units Needed for a Bachelors: 120+
Minimum Requirements to Apply-‐ The super simple version:
UC and CSU Required Minimum Transfer Eligibility • 60+ TRANSFERABLE units
• General Education of some form
• Major preparation if stipulated
• Minimum specified GPA
Private (Independent) Colleges and Universities • Varies by school but usually less stringent than UC/CSU
(See handout for more details.)
So what should students take?
Not sure of major yet? • English: Early and often
• Math: Early and often
And in addition: • Other general ed
It depends!
Interested in Science? • English: Early and often • Math: Early and often • Get started with chem as soon as possible
And in addition: • Other general ed
CCC General Education Options
• “IGETC” = Inter-‐segmental GE Transfer Curriculum • Accepted by UC, CSU and most CA private schools
• “CSU GE” = California State University GE • Accepted by CSU and most CA private schools
• CCC Campus GE = The community college’s GE. • Often meets AA/AS but will not suffice for transfer
NOTE: Most PRIVATE schools do NOT require students to complete GE prior to transfer – but it may be advantageous to do so
Key points about IGETC
• It was created for UC and CSU; is now widely recognized by private schools and some out-‐of-‐state schools (OR, NV)
• 39+ units, “C” or better in all • Consists of 5 + 1 Areas: English, Math, Social, Arts, Science plus LOTE (UC) or Speech (CSU)
• The 6 “Areas” are universal and apply statewide: • Once an area is completed at one CCC, no need to do again.
• For UC/CSU: If whole pattern is completed, it completely fulfills the Lower Division GE requirement.
• Good for many majors; NOT good for “High Unit” majors (i.e., engineering, chemistry, etc.)
Beyond General Ed: Major Preparation
• Major Prep is often required prior to transfer.
• Most common in the UC system but also in the highly selective programs in the CSU.
• For UC and CSU major prep requirements go to:
www.assist.org
• Also see the community college counselor – every term.
• For private schools also contact them directly – early and often!
How to apply to transfer:
• UC: Has their own online application
• CSU: CSU Mentor
• Private schools: Many now using Common Application for transfer students. • TIP: Contact the school to verify what’s required when
using the Common App.
UC Transfer Admission Guarantees (TAGs)
• Yes, they exist and they work for 6 UC campuses. Davis, Irvine, Merced, Riverside, SB, Santa Cruz
• Search Google for UC TAGs • Things to remember: • For most campuses, 2 English courses and transfer math must
be completed by the end of the Fall prior to transfer
• Even if you are granted a TAG, you must STILL complete and submit the full UC application
AA-‐T and AS-‐T Degrees for CSU Admissions
• Good for CSU if the campus deems major and concentration as “similar”
• Often aids in helping to streamline requirements when applying to multiple CSUs
• Guarantees completion of BA\BS within 60 units after transfer – will provide small bump in GPA for impacted campuses\majors
And one slide on financial preparation for transfer:
The two most common reasons why students didn’t receive Federal, State or Institutional funding are:
1. They did not apply (or didn’t re-‐apply) 2. They applied late
• SO: Apply EARLY and apply EVERY YEAR.
In closing:
• Like 4-‐year schools, but even more so, the CCC system favors the early & organized for transfer progress and success.
• UC and CSU transfer entry requirements are inflexible.
• Private colleges and universities have more flexibility in transfer entry requirements and in awarding funds.
• Better funding comes to the early birds.
Questions?
Resources:
• www. assist.org
• CaliforniaColleges.edu (hosted by AICCU) • UC websites, counselor conferences, e-‐mail groups
• CSU websites and counselor conferences
• WACAC trainings and conferences
Thank you for caring about transfer students!!!
More on the money
• The Big 4 money sources: 1. Federal Government: FAFSA.
Pell grants, Work Study, Stafford loans
2. State of California: AB-‐540 status. Cal Grant. Dreamer Grant.
3. Schools: App fee waivers. Merit scholarships. Other non-‐cash.
4. Others:
• Big national: Jack Kent Cooke. Nike. Gates.
• Small local: Lions. Rossmoor. Churches. Et al.
• Wide range of qualifiers; don’t need a 4.0.
How to get more money? Apply, on time.
Scholarship search tips: Narrow the criteria. Don’t pay for info.